*NOTE* This video isn't meant to say there's anything wrong with fan theories or that fans for some reason aren't allowed to hold them. This video just seeks to explain why some of the more common fan theories regarding the Godzilla series, some of which are mistakenly held as fact by many fans, are certifiably untrue.
Wikizilla I love these videos. Im learning tons of new facts about Godzilla! For a while I thought I knew everything about Godzilla. Im glad that there is more to know!
It looks good and removing gills implies that he would need to go outside to get air and I prefer the idea that he can swim for years without oxygen above water
SkySlasher idk Imo showa doesnt have gills Its been said the reason holes are there are for the actor But the gill thing came along even tho in godzillas revenge it looks like hes breathing normally underwater and not using gills
We've seen in a number of movies that Godzilla has no problem fighting underwater. When Kong and Godzilla tumbled in the water, Kong very wisely left the scene. He put up a great fight, but no way can Kong fight underwater for very long. That's just how I interpreted the ending.
It was published in an official book written by Tomoyuki Tanaka, one of Godzilla's creators, so it's definitely official to some extent. Tanaka is very generous regarding Godzilla's combat record in the book, even calling his final battle with Biollante a victory.
The problem with that is Godzilla is unconscious at the beginning of the the next movie, having been defeated by Kong. That's why he's washed ashore by a hurricane... he wasn't able to get out of its way. So, Tanaka can call it a draw all he wants, but the intentions of the makers at the time and the evidence in the actual film supersedes that. Kong defeating Godzilla has nothing to do with "Well Godzilla can blah blah blah underwater." The tall and the short of it is Godzilla is the villain of the piece. Kong is the hero. Bad guys generally don't win in this sort of picture (because they aren't trying to be "edgy" or "cool" or whatever). Kong wins. Godzilla loses. Keep in mind that Tanaka also said (and printed in that Heisei Godzilla Perfection book) "Bagan is canon to the Heisei series"...
there is nothing confusing in godzillas movie timeline. see it as different eras. Showa, heisei, millenium 3 eras. and this doesn`t mean that all the movies of one era are conected most of them are single movies.
Another note to add about Godzilla Jr. being Godzilla 2000 or 2004 is that while Junior was kind and gentle towards the humans, Godzilla 2K and Final Wars weren't and behaved like any other Godzilla. Especially since FW Godzilla was trying to pursue and kill the Gotengo crew.
The future filmmaker Oh there's plenty to compare. 1- Different forms. 2- Super organisms 3- Can grow another from just a piece of themselves 4- All mutated 5- All can rule the world, because of what they can do.
The future filmmaker 4- Mutation as in they all develop the ability to self replicate, and are not natural at all. I understand all Kaiju are mutated, but not in a cellular level. Like Shin and others like him.
I always thought of Godzilla having gills and lungs as being entirely logical. After all, he’s supposed to be amphibious in all of his iterations. This is also why I think the fight in _King Kong vs. Godzilla_ ended in a draw. As soon as both monsters fell into the sea, Godzilla would’ve gained a huge advantage as Kong is only an air breather.
That tease of G1998 at the end. Looking forward to that. Adding on to "Is Junior the 1999 Godzilla?" -- in June 1999, Toho held a press conference for the film. One of the questions asked by a reporter with response: Q: Was [Godzilla 2000: Millennium] ever planned as a sequel to 'DESTOROYAH'? A: (producer Shogo Tomiyama) I never considered that idea at all for this project. The story of 'GODZILLA VS. DESTOROYAH' is set in a world entirely different from 'GODZILLA 2000: MILLENNIUM'. The more you know!
Tomiyama is getting by on a technicality. "Godzilla 2000 Millennium" doesn't have Godzilla as Junior from "vs. Destroyer", but "Godzilla Millennium" (the project's first title), which had a different storyline did. Godzilla in "2000" isn't Junior, but that change was made very late in the game, despite what Tomiyama said in that press conference.
I once had a girl confuse king ghidorah with king Kong....i had to hold back and I politely corrected her. I understand that most kanji have king in the name but cone on...king Kong is a icon of cinema! How can you confuse the two?
Though it's not canonical, I like the idea of the millennium Godzilla being Jr. Not only do they share the same coloring, but the concept of him mutating and becoming so visually distinct due absorbing his father's heightened radiation is really cool. I wish they had taken that angle.
Technically they already did with godzilla vs gigan rex, the gemstone godzilla design is similar but still different compared to heisei godzilla thus giving it it's own distinct appearance.
*Kong hiding on very tall building* Put that tree down man that was 50 years ago! *godzilla 2014 at the base of the building holding a tree* BOY...GET DOWN HERE AND ACCEPT YOUR FATE!
Been a fan for 30 years, I clicked on this with the intent of scoffing at these supposed "myths" but generally learned something new. I always overlooked that Hesei G was the 2nd in that timeline, due to the time travel in G vs.Ghidorah , and the gill shit I never knew. Props.
9:19 somthing that also supports this is the fact that before achieveing its final form Shin Godzilla couldn't regulate its body heat internally. Like reptiles.
If you saw Godzilla and Mothra the battle for earth, battra is a moth, not a parasite that was formed from feeding off radiation from dagon another member of Godzilla's species, battra is colored red, yellow, and black, the male into is primarily gray and a little tint of black, battra was last seen in the heisei series, saying they look similar or legendary got inspiration from battra is false, something that most people would say is that they would compare the mutos to the baby cloverfield monster in 2008 which is also a misconception
Yep can't hibernate underwater for Decades and centuries, or even a few years at a time if you can’t breath underwater, if Godzilla didn't have gills he'd act like a marine reptile or mammal and have to surface to breath, so lets just say he had internal gills as that just makes more sense.
If Godzilla didn't have gills, he would have drowned due to staying underwater for too long. Good thing Toho thought about this and explained the breathing holes on the Showa era suits as gills in-universe. Legendary also had the foresight of adding gills like a shark's on Godzilla's neck.
" Did Godzilla become "God Godzilla" In a Manga?" Me: No no he became Super God Godzilla, then Super God Super God Godzilla. Later on dubed Super Godzilla Red and Super Godzilla Blue
@@MrAutobot390 In the Manga I believe is where the name "Super Saiyan Red" comes from. Which makes sense, since the Manga is in black and white to describe what the difference between Base Form and Goku other than eye color and the hair being Grey
As a big Godzilla fan, I know that Godzilla 2000 and 2004/FW are different timelines entirely. But I just really like to imagine Junior is 1999-2004 (Not counting GMK), because I really, really fucking hate how they literally reboot the series per Millennium movie.
I think the movies would have been better if they continued the timeline either after each film or from the 90’s series. I alway thought it would be cool to have a cross over film with the 90’s Godzilla films and the American fox animated series. Like nick meets the psychic lady that was connected to junior team up to fight a alien invasion or some kind of big bad monster. I think it has potential of being a good movie
Same, I know it isn't canon, but I like to think Junior is the Millennium Goji, especially the Final Wars Godzilla following in his fathers footsteps, being bad@ss and such. If it was canon, it would be even cooler since FW Goji used the red spiral atomic breath like Heisei Godzilla.
I never knew Showa Godzilla had gills and never noticed. breathing holes in the suit. I appreciate this informative video and your one on the Ghidorah timeplot. Subscribed.
MrMagma101 the thing is, in godzillas revenge it looked as if he was breathing like we do when he went underwater I personally dont agree that showa has gills but thats just me
In regards to the Junior 2000 theory, the original Japanese teaser for the film started with the full grown Junior at the end of GvD and proceeded to show clips from the Heisei timeline before revealing the new design. I think it made many (including myself as a kid) believe it was a follow up from the previous series. Still, between this and the Final Wars theory, it just shows how much fans loved Junior and wanted to see him again.
How about the misconception that people think the name Godzilla was something shortsighted translators made up on the spot instead of the approved international name of Gojira.
I actually watched the *original* Godzilla movie on HBO Max, and there's a scene where an elderly citizen of some island village talked about how the people of his village were forced to treat Gojira like a *deity* , offering sacrifices of young maidens to him at regular intervals to appease it for even just the short time they managed to; after seeing that scene, I figured the overseas name Godzilla must've been inspired by *that* .
Hopefully this will clear up some issues within the fandom. There is nothing worse than a mislead fact becoming "true". The Godzilla jr is Godzilla 1999 (Godzilla 2000) is especially annoying to see everywhere.
Ikr. Godzilla 2000 is a complete reboot and starts the Millennium Series and was never a continuation of the Heisei Series. It baffles me how there are still people out there who believe Jr is Godzilla 2000.
Junior is NOT 100 meters tall. Godzilla is 100 meters tall in all of the Heisei series, except for Godzilla 1984 and Godzilla vs Biollante, in which he is around 80 meters tall. Godzilla Junior is around 40 meters tall. Look it up at the wiki or just watch the movie. You can clearly see that he is tiny, or how else would Destoroyah grabbed him with such ease?
BenniRoR Technically, the Heisei Godzilla was 80m until the sub struck him in 92 (in canon, the films takes place one year after the film’s release), but still you are right.
I like how this guy did his homework. I dont care much about the continuity of Godzilla, I just like to watch giant monsters fighting! Also: So much science goes into Godzilla.
When I was a kid I actually thought all 29 movies were in one consistent timeline and it was kinda lit thinking that that all these movies happened in the same universe but Japan would be so fucked up lol
I even thought that other franchises lik pacific rim, cloverfield and lovecraftian mythose were in the same universe as every godzilla movie I WAS STUPID
Mothra a colorful Moth that protects the cosmos The M.U.T.O.S. an extremely hostile and parasitic monster that is not a bug Most fans: Oh yeah, that's an adaptation of Mothra!
The mutos wheren't that hostile. Hell the only things they attack was Godzilla which was trying to kill them and the humans that blew up their kids. Hell femuto seemed to like humans.
But their visual effects are mostly superior to Heisei, as far as suspension of disbelief goes. Godzilla 2000 was a visual masterpiece, with scenes like where the GPN vehicle was in the foreground on a road as Godzilla’s silhouette loomed behind them, similar to the tornado chase sequences from Twister. m.ua-cam.com/video/OgG2jfBfLzI/v-deo.html That said, Heisei is my favorite design of the monster. You can tell though that Roland EmErick and Dean Devlin’s movie lit a fire under TOHO’s ass to deliver better visuals. Similar to Shin Godzilla being an answer to Legendary Pictures’ Godzilla.
Kensho Yamashita has said that "Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla" takes place in 1994, just a few months after "Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla." Also, computer monitors in "Godzilla vs. Mothra" set the main action as happening in December of 1992 (the prologue would likely be right after the events of "King Ghidorah"). Since the movie was released in December of '92, this would've been a conscious act by the filmmakers to place its setting. As well, if "Godzilla '84" takes place in 1984, then "Biollante" would take place in 1989, as the film itself has the super, "Five Years Later." Here's the thing about Junior and "Final Wars"-- in the final film, no it's not Junior. But like with "2000", originally it was. The script that Tomiyama and Wataru Mimura wrote had it be Junior. But when Ryuhei Kitamura and his writer came in, they obliterated all references to it being Junior. Tomiyama first hinted at this in an interview with G-Fan magazine in late 2003 or 2004 (I forget offhand). This is why everything's back on the 100 meters scale. Additionally, the opening prologue was a concept that was originally in a draft for one of the 1995 story scripts-- since it didn't get used before, in Tomiyama/Mimura's draft, that was Aso and Hyodo piloting Atragon. But in the final film? No, it's not Junior.
@@ikaiju-eu9wn I don't know what "it" is you're referring to, but denying something doesn't make it not so. Don't just blindly follow Wikizilla. Everything in my post from THREE YEARS AGO is a fact, researched and corroborated by the people involved.
The reason the fans think Godzilla final wars was Godzilla jr is originally Toho script for Godzilla final wars was tied to the heisei era story. They even said that destoroyah was meant to be the final battle, which is why this godzilla is 100 meters instead of the 1954 being 50 meters. However they change it to not bring back the heisei timeline however the only thing remain is was this godzilla 100 meters height.
the final wars godzilla is 110 meters. where are you took your informations they not true. Final Wars Godzilla was meant to be the biggest and most powerfull Godzilla of all till that time. i have a book where all the stats off all the godzillas till final wars are in 110 meters. Legendarys godzilla is bigger than FW Godzilla but not much they reduce it in the end. at first legendary would be 180 meters but they changed it. Shin is 130 meters.
@@Super-Godzilla99 stupid person you so stupid if godzilla 2014 is 180 meters then in 2019 he would be bigger than ghidorah how is 150 meters and In 2021 he is 210 meters so you shouldn't be so stupid hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahanahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassss
@@michellejames1561 what shit are you saying, 180 meters, i never sayed that, learn too read words correctly, and learn too use your own brain, you have it so use it. What childsplay, if you want too troll someone do it with one that is as stupid as you yourself. Humans are doomed with people like you. Talk too me again when you grow up, until then bye.
Awesome video as always! But there is one tiny thing I'd like to add: Godzilla "Junior"- the son of Godzilla from 1998 in Godzilla: The Series- has gills as well. They even light up when he uses his atomic breath. So one more Godzilla with gills for the list.
the holes you can see in his neck in king kong vs godzilla. i always thought they were holes for the actor to see out and they just said they were gills to cleverly give a reason to it.
5:04: Godzilla is like “Listen here, im the reason why all of you exist if it wasn’t for me, then you wouldn’t have existed so everyone here pay respects to your king!”
To be honest, when I was younger and before I knew about Godzilla timelines, I always believed Godzilla jr actually became Godzilla from Godzilla 2000 lmao.
The main reasons Shin Godzilla isn't the strongest is because after a couple mins of him using his atomic breath resulted in him shutting down for two weeks. Not to mention he was seriously injured by a bunker buster.
What about the misconception that the 1954 Godzilla is a mutated dinosaur? Because according to the movie and a 1984 book, Godzilla was not a mutated dinosaur, but in fact a giant prehistoric marine reptile that slept with a colony of other Godzilla, but an h-bomb killed most of them and irradiated the surviving Godzilla. So many people seem to get this wrong. The original Godzilla was a victim of nuclear weapons exactly just like how actual victims were: burned and exposed to high amounts of radiation, not mutated into a monster.
Something to also note about the junior and 2000 misconception is the height difference, with junior more than likely becoming 100 meters (the height of the hesisi incarnation) and the 2000 godzilla is only 55 meters.
It's quite disappointing that the King Kong vs Godzilla japanese ending were nothing but tall tales. It was almost a match that Godzilla 2000 could be Junior, but he was the third in the Heisei era only. And I don't want to offend many people who are Godzilla fans, but connecting Junior as FinalGoji was a pile of bullshit. Why because Junior was born in 1993, while Godzilla (GFW) made his appearance and got sealed up around the 60’s; however, ironically, was released during the Xilien invasion in 2004. Hey, can you do the Godzilla vs the Devil misconception thing.
The opening of "Final Wars" cannot take place in the 60s (fans just made that up around the time of release; that was never something Toho said). The main action of the movie takes place in the year 203X (several Toho sources and the Making of site this), so if Gordon was on the Atragon as a young man, it would be impossible for it to be set in the 1960s. The late 90's as originally intended is far more likely.
KeepingAngelaBaker But according to some sources that I have researched, the actual film opening of the film did taken place in the 60’s and the main action taken place in 2004. But if you want to keep the late 90's -203X timeline, that's fine with me. But for me, I'm sticking with 1960-2004 timeplot to be honest.
Who are your sources? Because mine's Toho. In their making of special for the film (which can be seen in their 3-disc DVD release), it explicitly says the main action of the film takes place in 203X, complete with an onscreen super reading same.
KeepingAngelaBaker My sources is Wikizilla, where it video shows from 3:23-4:32, which implying very good reasons of why Final Wars has share no connection with the Heisei Godzilla series: 1. The Heisei series and Final Wars shared no continuity and set in their own universe. 2. The stock footage is nothing but a montage to have Godzilla's triumph victory ending it. 3. Not only appeared in 1954, but he was sealed in Antarctica (during the great monster war) until been released in the 21st century during the Xilien invasion. 4. Junior was born in 1994, which implying that he's actually the third Godzilla in the Heisei timeline only. And my other sources is from Toho Kingdom: www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla_mill5.htm, where I ask them about the film itself and they did tell me that the film actually taken place in 1964-2004. And by chances, if you say that the film taken place in 203X where are your links to support this unless you're some simpleton who make up bombastic claims. And to add more, there was an originally planned script implying that Junior will be frozen in Antarctica in the late 90's until he was released in 203X, however, director Ryuhei Kitamura thought about it but rewrite it into his own which leave the timeplot unknown.
more like godzilla buzzkill. Wanna know what the biggest godzilla misconception is? The general public refers to the 1998 zilla as Godzilla 2000. I've heard it referred to that by sooooo many people and I'm sure you all have too.
. I know the 2014 movie is controversial among fans, even though it's quite good and pretty accurate to a typical Godzilla movie, but can we at least agree that the M.U.T.Os are a fine edition to Godzilla's enemy list? Their designs are simple but cool, they're intimidating, and they actually posed a threat to the king.
The issues I have with the 2014 Godzilla are in how they didn’t feature the king enough. The literally cut his first fight and it makes me angry. But I do agree that the MUTOs are a fine edition to the prehumanity Kaiju that rules the earth
@@poltergeist4288 thats because they wanted to make a save real godzilla movie without shit on the lore thats why godzilla has not much screentime. But in the end it doesn`t mather how much screentime he has its a very very good godzilla movie for shure and godzilla is godzilla.
Watch the second trailer for Godzilla: King of the Monsters. There are hints that there will be more kaiju in the movie, and at least one will be possibly an original kaiju instead of an existing Toho kaiju.
The idea that Gojira was named after a person isn't technically a "rumor." It was published in issue #30 of Famous Monsters of Filmland as a quote from Tsuburaya himself. "We checked into the story that it was a combination of the English word 'gorilla' and the Japanese word 'kujira' or whale. Mr. Tsuburaya set us straight: "Actually, there was a tough looking fellow working on the Toho lot," he told us, "with the nickname Gojira. We just used his name. It certainly fit well." This isn't to say that Tsuburaya might not have been spinning a story, or that the fellow's nickname might not have been a combination of exactly those words, or that FM might not have made the quote up. But it wasn't a vague rumor. It came from a published article that even references exactly the origin you claim is the correct one, and was presented as a direct quote from one of the original creators.
any chance on a vid going over the differences between Godzilla jr and manila? cuz some fans like me were not born till the tail end of 1994 and really can't hunt down older films and that to even try to get the difference, like far as I know they r similar in concept, with manila being hated by fans while jr is more positively viewed
My guess for future misconceptions to be debunked in a sequel: Are the miniatures made from cardboard? (No, they were made by a crafting company that used material such as plastic, foam, and wax. They never use cardboard, since cardboard miniatures can tear, burn, or flatten too easily) Is Godzilla evil? (Only GMK Godzilla is definitely evil. Most of the time, Godzilla is a neutral force, and even when he IS the villain, he's usually shown as a tragic and sympathetic anti-villain or simply an unstoppable force of nature in many movies) Was Godzilla vs. the Devil ever considered before being scrapped? (No. There were no plans for a movie featuring Godzilla fighting Satan (not to be confused with the IDW comic Godzilla in Hell)) Did Anguirus/Kamoebas/Gamera and Kumonga/Ebirah appear in Godzilla: King of the Monsters? (No, those are new kaiju: Methuselah and Scylla. However, a kaiju skeleton that "may or may not be Anguirus" can be seen in the underwater ruins) Is the new MUTO in Godzilla: King of the Monsters Abaddon? (There is no official statement to prove this. Even the official novel adaptation of the movie simply called the new MUTO "a hunchbacked, six-legged MUTO" (despite actually having eight legs)) Was the concept art for a cephalopod kaiju for Godzilla: King of the Monsters meant to be Kraken from the novelization? (No proof for this either) Is Gamera owned by Toho ever since Daiei filed bankruptcy? (No, he is owned by Kadokawa as of now. And despite appearing in concept art for KotM, Legendary has not yet approached Kadokawa to obtain the rights for Gamera)
Why did people think Kong won the fight with Godzilla? They both fell into the sea, right? And we see Kong swimming home? Godzilla lives in the damn sea, they both gave up and went home. That sure sounds like a draw to me.
Toho made the conscious decision to depict Kong as the only monster to emerge at the end. Godzilla was either knocked unconscious or retreated first, while Kong was able to surface before deciding to return home. Toho themselves stated Kong was the winner, their sales pamphlet from the time even directly says "King Kong is victorious."
@Maurice Smith are you dumb? Thats not misinformation. The creator of Godzilla, Tomoyuki Tanaka changed the outcome into a draw. So thats it. Creator said its a draw, so its a draw.
By the year 2020, we'll finally see a rematch between Godzilla & King Kong. In fact, i could picture how Godzilla VS King Kong might end. Just when either about the strike the final blow, Montra appears & warns them that a new, greater threat is on the horizon. This new threat is King Ghidora.
Well, they can't do that because Mothra and Ghidora are both showing up in King of the Monsters. But if they made it another original kaiju, or go with Destroyah or a mysterious threat from space (aka Space Godzilla,) then it could work
There is one legitimate element that does also make Shin come off as a manifestation of separate lifeforms, rather than one big one that you don't directly address, so I wanted to point it out --- When little bits of flesh are blasted off of Shin Godzilla, these globs of flesh will grow teeth and eyes similar to that of the main creature; they literally try to become miniature versions of the creature that they were originally part of. Now mind you, this could just be that, because of its super-mutation, its flesh is somehow able to survive on its own for several minutes, long enough to even attempt a full-scale evolution of its own, but this was the main reason why I originally assumed Shin was a Superorganism rather than just a standard mutated creature akin to the others.
I don't mind the gills at all, But I do want to say that it is weird that Godzilla has gills to begin with... There was a time period where there were plenty of marine reptiles none of which had evidence of gills. I only bring it up because I always thought Godzilla was like a whale where every now and then you just see him rise to the surface (maybe just his nose poke up) Where he then inhales And dives back down. I guess I'm just weird.
My personal theory was that the Mutos were meant to bare a passing resemblance to the cloverfield monster in some way, but that feels a bit more like something Toho would do rather than Legendary.
Some of these theories I used to think were true, such as Godzilla winning in the Japanese version of King Kong vs Godzilla, and the whole Godzilla Jr. becoming the 2000 Godzilla. Thanks WikiZilla for clearing these up.
What I'm mad at isn't that Kong won. It's the fuss that Godzilla fans are making as a result of that. Seriously guys, chill! So what Godzilla lost, it's not the end of the world. What's strange is that I haven't seen many people complain about the ending of Mothra vs Godzilla, but when Kong wins, it's suddenly the worst thing ever. So two baby caterpillars are allowed to defeat Godzilla, but a giant ape isn't. I swear, this fanbase is so hypocritical. And no, I'm not badmouthing Mothra vs Godzilla. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those types of fans.
@@nanuqo2006 mothra is a moth and kong is a giant powerlifting gorilla, in what universe does a moth or even a lizard beat a gorilla? Like lol honestly Godzilla fans are the most cancerous and stupidest people I have come across.
@@acGyakushu_and_Shin It's because Kong fans like to justify every valid argument that a godzilla fan makes about who's stronger by saying "Oh, well Kinky Dong won in du old moovee!"
Wait that Reymart troll kid is still around? There was a solid year where he commented on every video about how Godzilla 1998 was the only good Godzilla and the Japanese Godzilla was "lol Barney Fatzilla ripoff of Beast from 20000 Fathoms and all his movies are box office bombs." He got really annoying, and I eventually just blocked him.
Even though this video doesn't really include stuff about Mothra and King Ghidorah I kinda wanted to drop this bit about the Rebirth of Mothra series and what I wish was true about it and why it doesn't (but should have) link up with the Godzilla Heisei series. Why didn't they just keep the continuity from the Godzilla Heisei series? In Rebirth of Mothra it could have been that Mothra had just returned from space after having saved the Earth from the meteor that Battra was supposed to destroy and then she decided to lay an egg. Then just change things around and say that Desghidorah had been defeated by a previous Mothra and sealed away. After that the movie can almost be exactly the same. (Minus all the kid stuff.) Just a few dialog changes. Then we could use these minor changes to explain stuff about King Ghidorah (from Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah) and "Grand" King Ghidorah/ Grand Ghidorah in Rebirth of Mothra 3. We could say that it was Thought to be Desghidorah that wiped out the dinosaurs but it really was a young Grand Ghidorah. And then with time travel and stuff involved Grand Ghidorah is beaten in the present by Armor Mothra. However; in a twist that could actually make sense, sometime in the future mankind finds traces of Grand Ghidorah cells where he was defeated by Armor Mothra. The scientist don't know what the origin of these cells are and just decide to use them for experiments. They end up making the Dorats that show up in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. And then the evil time travelers that want to ruin Japan figure out they can use the Dorats to make a new monster they can control. Thus a slightly different version of Grand Ghidorah is born. King Ghidorah. See how that works well together? I don't know why they didn't do that. Maybe you could make a video about this. Oh and how the Rebirth of Mothra movies should have been done better in first place. lol
It's sad how accurate this is. Not many people complained about Mothra defeating Godzilla, but it's somehow the end of the world when Kong defeats Godzilla. It's a shame how hypocritical and immature many Godzilla fans are.
Agreed...back in 1962, in both American and Japanese versions of KING KONG VS GODZILLA, Kong's the HERO. When the film was made, Godzilla was still a villain, and Tomoyuki Tanaka's retcon isn't that much different than having Greedo shoot first in the STAR WARS special edition in 1997 because Han Solo had become such a fan favorite.
I'm actually more surprised that the Heisei Godzilla *doesn't* have gills. Like you said, Godzilla lives under the water so it seems like a no-brainer that it has some means of breathing underwater.
Now that mothra/rodan/ghidorah are #confirmed , I kind of dread seeing what mothra will look like in G2. The G2014 Muto was the most sophisticated looking thing I'd seen, regarding a big-screen, realistic godzilla combatant, so hopefully the mothra of G2 will look as well-designed.
Attempts to smash all Godzilla films into some singular continuity leads to nothing but trouble. From its start the Millennium (1999-2004) Series' entries EACH had separate continuities connecting only to the 1954 original (Godzilla x Megaguirus even went out of its way to create a fictional history of post-1954 Japan), but Tokyo SOS confused the issue as a direct sequel to the previous film. Then Final Wars said "hold my beer" and freakin' threw Minya at us. But COME ON, fanboys--GMK Angry Spirits Godzilla, Jet Jaguar Handshake Godzilla and Burning Meltdown Godzilla don't co-exist in a single continuity any more than the 1943 serial Batman, Michael Keaton Batman and Christian Bale Batman do. One Toho kaiju classic that DID have two endings, Frankenstein Conquers the World, was originally intended to be a Godzilla film (and was inspired by the never-filmed US film King Kong vs Frankenstein). In a scene shot to satisfy American co-producers, a giant octopus suddenly appears without explanation and drags "Frankenstein" to his doom, but this ending was ultimately rejected and only saw light of day when it was accidentally aired on TV, becoming an instant fan obsession. Did some foggy memory about giant primates fighting octopi lead to a rumor about the wrong film--King Kong vs Godzilla? I like the theory--just as unsupported as any other--that "Gojira" is simply a mashup of "gorira" (gorilla) and "kujira" (whale), who were at the time mistakenly considered the most dangerous creatures of land and sea.
"Gojira" being a combination of _gorira_ and _kujira_ is not a "theory," it's the actual origin of Godzilla's name. Just how that name was conceived and decided upon is unclear, and there are countless rumors about it, the most common being that it was the nickname of someone working for Toho.
ScreamingScallop Millennium Era began in 2000 not 1999. In 1999 only Kaiju movie it was it's Mothra vs Desghidorah. If Toho was going to make Heisei Godzilla Jr back make him adult and stronger than his dad at least bit it might make him fight with Desghidorah.
"Attempts to smash all Godzilla films into some singular continuity leads to nothing but trouble" Tell that to fans of Matt Frank's Godzilla Neo series. No please seriously.
*NOTE* This video isn't meant to say there's anything wrong with fan theories or that fans for some reason aren't allowed to hold them. This video just seeks to explain why some of the more common fan theories regarding the Godzilla series, some of which are mistakenly held as fact by many fans, are certifiably untrue.
Actually in Godzilla vs king ghidorah with time travel I guess the godzillasaurus is Godzilla's brother
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Wikizilla you can do a video of SHOWA GODZILLA or GODZILLA JR.
PLEASE!!!
Wikizilla _OK_
Wikizilla I love these videos. Im learning tons of new facts about Godzilla! For a while I thought I knew everything about Godzilla. Im glad that there is more to know!
I don't think the gills make Godzilla 2014 less cool actually it fits to him
It looks natural
It looks natural to me
it look's normal to me i guess
And it makes sense because otherwise, Godzilla would have drowned.
It looks good and removing gills implies that he would need to go outside to get air and I prefer the idea that he can swim for years without oxygen above water
why is Godzilla having Gills a big deal he's an aquatic monster that swims arcoss the ocean constantly
SkySlasher idk
Imo showa doesnt have gills
Its been said the reason holes are there are for the actor
But the gill thing came along even tho in godzillas revenge it looks like hes breathing normally underwater and not using gills
TheDarkness 666 that’s the official reason but in universe it make sense he has gills he lives in the oceans how can he survive
SkySlasher Have you heard of cetaceans? What about mosasaurs?
J. Johnson no
SkySlasher I hope that's sarcasm.
We've seen in a number of movies that Godzilla has no problem fighting underwater. When Kong and Godzilla tumbled in the water, Kong very wisely left the scene. He put up a great fight, but no way can Kong fight underwater for very long. That's just how I interpreted the ending.
And that's likely why Tomoyuki Tanaka retroactively declared the fight a draw.
Agreed.
Wikizilla Was the retcon official?
It was published in an official book written by Tomoyuki Tanaka, one of Godzilla's creators, so it's definitely official to some extent. Tanaka is very generous regarding Godzilla's combat record in the book, even calling his final battle with Biollante a victory.
The problem with that is Godzilla is unconscious at the beginning of the the next movie, having been defeated by Kong. That's why he's washed ashore by a hurricane... he wasn't able to get out of its way.
So, Tanaka can call it a draw all he wants, but the intentions of the makers at the time and the evidence in the actual film supersedes that.
Kong defeating Godzilla has nothing to do with "Well Godzilla can blah blah blah underwater." The tall and the short of it is Godzilla is the villain of the piece. Kong is the hero. Bad guys generally don't win in this sort of picture (because they aren't trying to be "edgy" or "cool" or whatever). Kong wins. Godzilla loses.
Keep in mind that Tanaka also said (and printed in that Heisei Godzilla Perfection book) "Bagan is canon to the Heisei series"...
Only Timeline more confusing than Zelda Timeline is the Godzilla Timeline
*FNAF Timeline intensifies*
Halloween timeline is the worst, out of 11 movies theres 7 timelines, thats almost a new timeline per movie!
@@wadeash2937 Shrek Timeline
there is nothing confusing in godzillas movie timeline. see it as different eras. Showa, heisei, millenium 3 eras. and this doesn`t mean that all the movies of one era are conected most of them are single movies.
Xmen timeline.😬😬
I met someone so uneducated of godzilla that she thought the skull crawlers of Kong were godzillas. you read that correctly
Hybrid Hero oh boy 😂😂
Seriously wtf!?!?!?!?
Kill me already...
bruh dey must be my disabled brothers
Your profile pic was probably your reaction to hearing that
Happy to know that Godzilla's roar is pronounced "SKREEEEEEEEONGK"
I love subtitles so much
SKREEEEEEEONGK
Now that the King of the Monsters trailer is out...
I guess we can officially say...
#RodanConfirmed.
Rodan ❤️ My Love
Another note to add about Godzilla Jr. being Godzilla 2000 or 2004 is that while Junior was kind and gentle towards the humans, Godzilla 2K and Final Wars weren't and behaved like any other Godzilla. Especially since FW Godzilla was trying to pursue and kill the Gotengo crew.
Two words: Yasuaki Shindo.
If you saw the thing that turned you into a godzilla pop for fifty years, you’d want to kill it too
Godzilla jr isn't Godzilla 2000 this is correct but he did appear in 2 films where he went against a newly made mecha Godzilla.
@@polycentricvoluntarist8940 um no that is a new godzilla
also jr at the end exactly looked like his father while 2004 looks exactly diff
I'm glad Shin is not just a bunch of organisms all together. If that was the case, then he'd basically be Destroyah in the form of Godzilla.
The future filmmaker Still has a shit ton of similarities.
The future filmmaker
Oh there's plenty to compare.
1- Different forms.
2- Super organisms
3- Can grow another from just a piece of themselves
4- All mutated
5- All can rule the world, because of what they can do.
The future filmmaker
2- A super organism. Meaning his cells. If you can't destroy every cell, then the super organism will just grow a new body.
The future filmmaker
3- Hedora, Shinemora can. Plus yes Destoroyah can totally grow from another micro organism. His literally made of it.
The future filmmaker
4- Mutation as in they all develop the ability to self replicate, and are not natural at all. I understand all Kaiju are mutated, but not in a cellular level. Like Shin and others like him.
I always thought of Godzilla having gills and lungs as being entirely logical. After all, he’s supposed to be amphibious in all of his iterations. This is also why I think the fight in _King Kong vs. Godzilla_ ended in a draw. As soon as both monsters fell into the sea, Godzilla would’ve gained a huge advantage as Kong is only an air breather.
Amen brother.
That tease of G1998 at the end. Looking forward to that.
Adding on to "Is Junior the 1999 Godzilla?" -- in June 1999, Toho held a press conference for the film. One of the questions asked by a reporter with response:
Q: Was [Godzilla 2000: Millennium] ever planned as a sequel to 'DESTOROYAH'?
A: (producer Shogo Tomiyama) I never considered that idea at all for this project. The story of 'GODZILLA VS. DESTOROYAH' is set in a world entirely different from 'GODZILLA 2000: MILLENNIUM'.
The more you know!
Tomiyama is getting by on a technicality. "Godzilla 2000 Millennium" doesn't have Godzilla as Junior from "vs. Destroyer", but "Godzilla Millennium" (the project's first title), which had a different storyline did. Godzilla in "2000" isn't Junior, but that change was made very late in the game, despite what Tomiyama said in that press conference.
KeepingAngelaBaker And your source confirming that Junior was originally intended to be the Millennium Godzilla is... ?
SuperGodzillaGaming h
This wasn't common knowledge?
Adding that Godzilla vs Destoroyah served to bring an end to the Heisei saga, a sequel as such was never planned.
I once had a girl confuse king ghidorah with king Kong....i had to hold back and I politely corrected her. I understand that most kanji have king in the name but cone on...king Kong is a icon of cinema! How can you confuse the two?
King Kong is shit compared to Ghidorah
@@nanuqo2006 Well actually King Kong was technically the original King of The Monsters. So.... SUCK IT!
@@yaboiidig3768 Fuck off, The Beast from 20,000 fathoms was.
And Kong would still get raped by Ghidorah.
@STEVE LE Press F to pay respects
Though it's not canonical, I like the idea of the millennium Godzilla being Jr. Not only do they share the same coloring, but the concept of him mutating and becoming so visually distinct due absorbing his father's heightened radiation is really cool. I wish they had taken that angle.
Technically they already did with godzilla vs gigan rex, the gemstone godzilla design is similar but still different compared to heisei godzilla thus giving it it's own distinct appearance.
Thanks for the shout out! Nice video!
*Kong hiding on very tall building* Put that tree down man that was 50 years ago!
*godzilla 2014 at the base of the building holding a tree* BOY...GET DOWN HERE AND ACCEPT YOUR FATE!
At the altitudes required to have Godzilla at the base, Kong wouldn't have enough oxygen.
Why can't I stop imagine about that. XD
Marcelina Romero I’m sure ur fun at parties
www.deviantart.com/ldn-rdnt/art/King-Kong-vs-Godzilla-II-442155551
2020: Aight boys
Clearly, the Male MUTO was meant to be the Giant Condor. Obvious if you ask me. :P
the most powerful monster... if He appears in the MonsterVerse, I'm not sure the series will continue - the title character will surely perish.
#RodanConfirmedForRealsThisTimeDough
Oh no! not the giant condor!, even Godzilla’s most powerful foes stand no chance against him!
Nope,Skeleturtle ftw
Naaaaaaa,no it wasn't!
Been a fan for 30 years, I clicked on this with the intent of scoffing at these supposed "myths" but generally learned something new. I always overlooked that Hesei G was the 2nd in that timeline, due to the time travel in G vs.Ghidorah , and the gill shit I never knew. Props.
9:19 somthing that also supports this is the fact that before achieveing its final form Shin Godzilla couldn't regulate its body heat internally.
Like reptiles.
If the Mutos ever reminded me of anyone else, it was Battra or Megaguirus. Definitely not Mothra.
If you saw Godzilla and Mothra the battle for earth, battra is a moth, not a parasite that was formed from feeding off radiation from dagon another member of Godzilla's species, battra is colored red, yellow, and black, the male into is primarily gray and a little tint of black, battra was last seen in the heisei series, saying they look similar or legendary got inspiration from battra is false, something that most people would say is that they would compare the mutos to the baby cloverfield monster in 2008 which is also a misconception
same
The mutos wheren't even hostile until they where frettened.
The female Muto reminded me of Orga myself
@@B4nk624GL he said the kajiu that remains him of the mutos your so hot headed
I actually like that Godzilla has gills, if he didn't have gills, people would see him more often (in the Godzilla universe)
Yep can't hibernate underwater for Decades and centuries, or even a few years at a time if you can’t breath underwater, if Godzilla didn't have gills he'd act like a marine reptile or mammal and have to surface to breath, so lets just say he had internal gills as that just makes more sense.
If Godzilla didn't have gills, he would have drowned due to staying underwater for too long. Good thing Toho thought about this and explained the breathing holes on the Showa era suits as gills in-universe. Legendary also had the foresight of adding gills like a shark's on Godzilla's neck.
" Did Godzilla become "God Godzilla" In a Manga?"
Me: No no he became Super God Godzilla, then Super God Super God Godzilla. Later on dubed Super Godzilla Red and Super Godzilla Blue
Is SSG really being called Super Saiyan Red now?
@@entransta Yup, they wanted to shorten it
9-BitFox It's the same fuckin length.
@@9-bitfox I've never heard anyone refer to SSG as Super Saiyan Red. It's always been Super Saiyan God
@@MrAutobot390 In the Manga I believe is where the name "Super Saiyan Red" comes from. Which makes sense, since the Manga is in black and white to describe what the difference between Base Form and Goku other than eye color and the hair being Grey
is jr the prince of the monsters, or even the prince of all monsters? :3 *insert Godzilla jr with vegeta hair on his head* XD
digunder14 XD
I thought the MUTO's looked like Gaos mated with the Cloverfield...thing.
Cloverfield monster is called just Clover
As a big Godzilla fan, I know that Godzilla 2000 and 2004/FW are different timelines entirely.
But I just really like to imagine Junior is 1999-2004 (Not counting GMK), because I really, really fucking hate how they literally reboot the series per Millennium movie.
Grandmaster Sparky Ikr the reboots used to make my brain hurt.
I think the movies would have been better if they continued the timeline either after each film or from the 90’s series. I alway thought it would be cool to have a cross over film with the 90’s Godzilla films and the American fox animated series. Like nick meets the psychic lady that was connected to junior team up to fight a alien invasion or some kind of big bad monster. I think it has potential of being a good movie
Same, I know it isn't canon, but I like to think Junior is the Millennium Goji, especially the Final Wars Godzilla following in his fathers footsteps, being bad@ss and such. If it was canon, it would be even cooler since FW Goji used the red spiral atomic breath like Heisei Godzilla.
actually jr is legendary
@@amitabhkumar6718 Proof?
I can accept that people get confused bc of the Godzilla timeline.
But when you first said it, I thought you meant Godzilla junior became Zilla, 😐 lol
I never knew Showa Godzilla had gills and never noticed. breathing holes in the suit. I appreciate this informative video and your one on the Ghidorah timeplot. Subscribed.
MrMagma101 the thing is, in godzillas revenge it looked as if he was breathing like we do when he went underwater
I personally dont agree that showa has gills but thats just me
TheDarkApex you may not agree that they exist. But they were factually proven true by the creator
@@thedarkapex5327 if u dont accept it than ur an idiot
One time I ment someone that is so uneducated of Godzilla she said Godzilla breaths radioactive ice
Please tell me how many movies he watched before she said that, because if she saw multiple movies then she needs to get her facts straight.
I can handle whenever someone says that he shoots "atomic fire", but atomic ice just doesn't work out properly.
Alex Thibodeau Yep
There is a giant reptile that shoots "ice," but that monster is Barugon, not Godzilla. You sure she wasn't referring to him?
@@acGyakushu_and_Shin Baragon shoots ice? Wow
In regards to the Junior 2000 theory, the original Japanese teaser for the film started with the full grown Junior at the end of GvD and proceeded to show clips from the Heisei timeline before revealing the new design. I think it made many (including myself as a kid) believe it was a follow up from the previous series.
Still, between this and the Final Wars theory, it just shows how much fans loved Junior and wanted to see him again.
How about the misconception that people think the name Godzilla was something shortsighted translators made up on the spot instead of the approved international name of Gojira.
I actually watched the *original* Godzilla movie on HBO Max, and there's a scene where an elderly citizen of some island village talked about how the people of his village were forced to treat Gojira like a *deity* , offering sacrifices of young maidens to him at regular intervals to appease it for even just the short time they managed to; after seeing that scene, I figured the overseas name Godzilla must've been inspired by *that* .
@@ezrafaulk3076 Yeah
I always felt the winged MUTO had a stronger resemblance to Gyaos, the bat-like foe of Gamera, than to Rodan or Mothra.
yes and also megaguirus
Hopefully this will clear up some issues within the fandom. There is nothing worse than a mislead fact becoming "true". The Godzilla jr is Godzilla 1999 (Godzilla 2000) is especially annoying to see everywhere.
you see 99 is 55 meters and jr is 100 meters
Ikr. Godzilla 2000 is a complete reboot and starts the Millennium Series and was never a continuation of the Heisei Series. It baffles me how there are still people out there who believe Jr is Godzilla 2000.
Junior is NOT 100 meters tall. Godzilla is 100 meters tall in all of the Heisei series, except for Godzilla 1984 and Godzilla vs Biollante, in which he is around 80 meters tall.
Godzilla Junior is around 40 meters tall. Look it up at the wiki or just watch the movie. You can clearly see that he is tiny, or how else would Destoroyah grabbed him with such ease?
BenniRoR Technically, the Heisei Godzilla was 80m until the sub struck him in 92 (in canon, the films takes place one year after the film’s release), but still you are right.
Alex Thibodeau PINK DIAMONDSDDDSSD
King kong: I WILL DEFEAT EVERYONE
godzilla:hold my Beer
It's super nice to see a video version of one of my favorite articles in the Wikizilla! You did an amazing job on this one :D
I like how this guy did his homework. I dont care much about the continuity of Godzilla, I just like to watch giant monsters fighting!
Also: So much science goes into Godzilla.
This is the kind of Godzilla content I love. thanks for making this vid!!!
I met someone who thought the 1998 American Godzilla was the original...
Ive only met pepole who tougth that was the last godzilla movie untill 2014
When I was a kid I actually thought all 29 movies were in one consistent timeline and it was kinda lit thinking that that all these movies happened in the same universe but Japan would be so fucked up lol
I even thought that other franchises lik pacific rim, cloverfield and lovecraftian mythose were in the same universe as every godzilla movie I WAS STUPID
@@ikaiju-eu9wn not just you I was even one step ahead I thought all movies were in the same universe 😂
I don’t care how stupid it might be to think or how easy it it to disprove but it’s something I literally cannot undo at this point
Mothra a colorful Moth that protects the cosmos
The M.U.T.O.S. an extremely hostile and parasitic monster that is not a bug
Most fans: Oh yeah, that's an adaptation of Mothra!
Really?
Mothra is not a bug either they are both insects
The mutos wheren't that hostile. Hell the only things they attack was Godzilla which was trying to kill them and the humans that blew up their kids. Hell femuto seemed to like humans.
@@ikaiju-eu9wn
Official definition of bug:
A small insect
@@s.nifrum4580 i made this comment 10 months ago when i was in a state that was comparable to being drunk
6:36 "DoEs gOdZiLlA 2014 hAvE gIlLs?!?!?!? YES!!" thank you titanollante for the weird audio in these older videos.
12:37 zilla shows up for a split second
Shin Godzilla needs his own misconception video, there are too many
4:35, it’s funny how Ultraseven just popped up out of nowhere
i love how final wars Gozilla looks so mad but almost all Godzilas look mad
If jr was the final wars goji, why would he attack the humans?
1:49 that one pisses me off a lot idiots still think jr is godzilla 1999,the heisei era has nothing to do with the millenium era both are seperate
Millenium era is a bit depressing, constantly rebooting and all...
But their visual effects are mostly superior to Heisei, as far as suspension of disbelief goes. Godzilla 2000 was a visual masterpiece, with scenes like where the GPN vehicle was in the foreground on a road as Godzilla’s silhouette loomed behind them, similar to the tornado chase sequences from Twister.
m.ua-cam.com/video/OgG2jfBfLzI/v-deo.html
That said, Heisei is my favorite design of the monster. You can tell though that Roland EmErick and Dean Devlin’s movie lit a fire under TOHO’s ass to deliver better visuals.
Similar to Shin Godzilla being an answer to Legendary Pictures’ Godzilla.
I like the idea
I got to admit that the idea of shin being a super organism is kinda cool to me
*in the new Godzilla VS Kong*
Mechagodzilla: *rapidly rotates head creating a force field*
Godzilla:DONT YOU DO THAT AGAIN
Kensho Yamashita has said that "Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla" takes place in 1994, just a few months after "Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla." Also, computer monitors in "Godzilla vs. Mothra" set the main action as happening in December of 1992 (the prologue would likely be right after the events of "King Ghidorah"). Since the movie was released in December of '92, this would've been a conscious act by the filmmakers to place its setting. As well, if "Godzilla '84" takes place in 1984, then "Biollante" would take place in 1989, as the film itself has the super, "Five Years Later."
Here's the thing about Junior and "Final Wars"-- in the final film, no it's not Junior. But like with "2000", originally it was. The script that Tomiyama and Wataru Mimura wrote had it be Junior. But when Ryuhei Kitamura and his writer came in, they obliterated all references to it being Junior. Tomiyama first hinted at this in an interview with G-Fan magazine in late 2003 or 2004 (I forget offhand). This is why everything's back on the 100 meters scale. Additionally, the opening prologue was a concept that was originally in a draft for one of the 1995 story scripts-- since it didn't get used before, in Tomiyama/Mimura's draft, that was Aso and Hyodo piloting Atragon. But in the final film? No, it's not Junior.
They disproved it in pinned comment
@@ikaiju-eu9wn I don't know what "it" is you're referring to, but denying something doesn't make it not so. Don't just blindly follow Wikizilla. Everything in my post from THREE YEARS AGO is a fact, researched and corroborated by the people involved.
@@ConstantineFurman and saying that something is a fact doesn't make a fact, it need evidence to back it up
The reason the fans think Godzilla final wars was Godzilla jr is originally Toho script for Godzilla final wars was tied to the heisei era story. They even said that destoroyah was meant to be the final battle, which is why this godzilla is 100 meters instead of the 1954 being 50 meters. However they change it to not bring back the heisei timeline however the only thing remain is was this godzilla 100 meters height.
the final wars godzilla is 110 meters. where are you took your informations they not true.
Final Wars Godzilla was meant to be the biggest and most powerfull Godzilla of all till that time.
i have a book where all the stats off all the godzillas till final wars are in 110 meters.
Legendarys godzilla is bigger than FW Godzilla but not much they reduce it in the end. at first legendary would be 180 meters but they changed it. Shin is 130 meters.
FW Godzilla is 100 meters, Legendary is 108 meters and Shin Godzilla is 118 meters
@@Super-Godzilla99 stupid person you so stupid if godzilla 2014 is 180 meters then in 2019 he would be bigger than ghidorah how is 150 meters and In 2021 he is 210 meters so you shouldn't be so stupid hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahanahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaassss
@@michellejames1561 what shit are you saying, 180 meters, i never sayed that, learn too read words correctly, and learn too use your own brain, you have it so use it. What childsplay, if you want too troll someone do it with one that is as stupid as you yourself.
Humans are doomed with people like you. Talk too me again when you grow up, until then bye.
I know im late, but it makes sence that jr is fw,since they are both very strong and both are 100 meters
Awesome video as always! But there is one tiny thing I'd like to add: Godzilla "Junior"- the son of Godzilla from 1998 in Godzilla: The Series- has gills as well. They even light up when he uses his atomic breath. So one more Godzilla with gills for the list.
the holes you can see in his neck in king kong vs godzilla. i always thought they were holes for the actor to see out and they just said they were gills to cleverly give a reason to it.
I loved this video and I'm ready for the next one.
I thought Godzilla having gills the 2014 film is actually fine
Jacob Waters I didn't even know legendary godzilla had gills until a week ago
Another fantastic video! I'm looking forward to the next volume.
5:04: Godzilla is like “Listen here, im the reason why all of you exist if it wasn’t for me, then you wouldn’t have existed so everyone here pay respects to your king!”
But without kong Godzilla wouldn’t have existed
@@hussamgaming6733*the beast from 20000 fantoms have left the chat crying and killed everyone he hates* :
To be honest, when I was younger and before I knew about Godzilla timelines, I always believed Godzilla jr actually became Godzilla from Godzilla 2000 lmao.
Here's a misconception:Bagan is the strongest kaiju ever and Shin is the strongest version of Godzilla ever xD
I think strongest kaiju title belongs to Super Godzilla
Well he propably has the strongest atomic breath, he's also the biggest, so why woldn't he be the strongest?
The Toho Society Bagan is quite op in fact. he was a mach for super Godzilla, which is the strongest Godzilla yet.
If not also the most realistic.
The main reasons Shin Godzilla isn't the strongest is because after a couple mins of him using his atomic breath resulted in him shutting down for two weeks. Not to mention he was seriously injured by a bunker buster.
Monster-Prince, Godzilla Jr.
Ha ha, I never thought of it like that. I love it.
I find it strange how the 2019 KotM design of Mothra is very similar to the male MUTO’s from 2014...
Another one is that fans believe Godzilla was never been killed by people. Which is false.
Tell me when. And no, shitzilla doesn't count.
@FinalHunter But that's a fictional weapon. Missiles aren't.
@FinalHunter If it's a fictional weapon it doesn't count. We don't have an oxygen destroyer IRL, so that means Godzilla wouldn't have died.
GojiraGuy 1954 Omg your logic is so dumb.
4:04 So the King of the Monster's name is SKREEEEONK? The series has lied to me.
What about the misconception that the 1954 Godzilla is a mutated dinosaur? Because according to the movie and a 1984 book, Godzilla was not a mutated dinosaur, but in fact a giant prehistoric marine reptile that slept with a colony of other Godzilla, but an h-bomb killed most of them and irradiated the surviving Godzilla.
So many people seem to get this wrong. The original Godzilla was a victim of nuclear weapons exactly just like how actual victims were: burned and exposed to high amounts of radiation, not mutated into a monster.
Something to also note about the junior and 2000 misconception is the height difference, with junior more than likely becoming 100 meters (the height of the hesisi incarnation) and the 2000 godzilla is only 55 meters.
It's quite disappointing that the King Kong vs Godzilla japanese ending were nothing but tall tales. It was almost a match that Godzilla 2000 could be Junior, but he was the third in the Heisei era only. And I don't want to offend many people who are Godzilla fans, but connecting Junior as FinalGoji was a pile of bullshit. Why because Junior was born in 1993, while Godzilla (GFW) made his appearance and got sealed up around the 60’s; however, ironically, was released during the Xilien invasion in 2004.
Hey, can you do the Godzilla vs the Devil misconception thing.
The opening of "Final Wars" cannot take place in the 60s (fans just made that up around the time of release; that was never something Toho said). The main action of the movie takes place in the year 203X (several Toho sources and the Making of site this), so if Gordon was on the Atragon as a young man, it would be impossible for it to be set in the 1960s. The late 90's as originally intended is far more likely.
KeepingAngelaBaker But according to some sources that I have researched, the actual film opening of the film did taken place in the 60’s and the main action taken place in 2004. But if you want to keep the late 90's -203X timeline, that's fine with me. But for me, I'm sticking with 1960-2004 timeplot to be honest.
Who are your sources? Because mine's Toho. In their making of special for the film (which can be seen in their 3-disc DVD release), it explicitly says the main action of the film takes place in 203X, complete with an onscreen super reading same.
KeepingAngelaBaker My sources is Wikizilla, where it video shows from 3:23-4:32, which implying very good reasons of why Final Wars has share no connection with the Heisei Godzilla series:
1. The Heisei series and Final Wars shared no continuity and set in their own universe.
2. The stock footage is nothing but a montage to have Godzilla's triumph victory ending it.
3. Not only appeared in 1954, but he was sealed in Antarctica (during the great monster war) until been released in the 21st century during the Xilien invasion.
4. Junior was born in 1994, which implying that he's actually the third Godzilla in the Heisei timeline only.
And my other sources is from Toho Kingdom: www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/godzilla_mill5.htm, where I ask them about the film itself and they did tell me that the film actually taken place in 1964-2004.
And by chances, if you say that the film taken place in 203X where are your links to support this unless you're some simpleton who make up bombastic claims.
And to add more, there was an originally planned script implying that Junior will be frozen in Antarctica in the late 90's until he was released in 203X, however, director Ryuhei Kitamura thought about it but rewrite it into his own which leave the timeplot unknown.
Thankfully a rematch is on its way in 2020
more like godzilla buzzkill. Wanna know what the biggest godzilla misconception is? The general public refers to the 1998 zilla as Godzilla 2000. I've heard it referred to that by sooooo many people and I'm sure you all have too.
I always liked to think that King Kong vs Godzilla was just a tie between the two...
When I was a child I loved the saga of the Heisei Era movies, when Godzilla 2000 was released, I always thought that Godzilla was Godzilla jr.
How many Godzilla’s have existed at once and can there be two adult Godzilla’s?
. I know the 2014 movie is controversial among fans, even though it's quite good and pretty accurate to a typical Godzilla movie, but can we at least agree that the M.U.T.Os are a fine edition to Godzilla's enemy list? Their designs are simple but cool, they're intimidating, and they actually posed a threat to the king.
I definitely agree. I'll take a new fresh enemy over Mothra again.
The issues I have with the 2014 Godzilla are in how they didn’t feature the king enough. The literally cut his first fight and it makes me angry. But I do agree that the MUTOs are a fine edition to the prehumanity Kaiju that rules the earth
@@poltergeist4288 thats because they wanted to make a save real godzilla movie without shit on the lore thats why godzilla has not much screentime. But in the end it doesn`t mather how much screentime he has its a very very good godzilla movie for shure and godzilla is godzilla.
They could have entirely been replaced with almost no major story changes with Megaguirus taking their place. I don't see how they were very original.
Watch the second trailer for Godzilla: King of the Monsters. There are hints that there will be more kaiju in the movie, and at least one will be possibly an original kaiju instead of an existing Toho kaiju.
On one hand, I REALLY wanna see Shin Godzilla 2, but on the other hand a Covid-19 metaphor Godzilla would be as creative as he would be terrifying.
The idea that Gojira was named after a person isn't technically a "rumor." It was published in issue #30 of Famous Monsters of Filmland as a quote from Tsuburaya himself.
"We checked into the story that it was a combination of the English word 'gorilla' and the Japanese word 'kujira' or whale. Mr. Tsuburaya set us straight:
"Actually, there was a tough looking fellow working on the Toho lot," he told us, "with the nickname Gojira. We just used his name. It certainly fit well."
This isn't to say that Tsuburaya might not have been spinning a story, or that the fellow's nickname might not have been a combination of exactly those words, or that FM might not have made the quote up. But it wasn't a vague rumor. It came from a published article that even references exactly the origin you claim is the correct one, and was presented as a direct quote from one of the original creators.
any chance on a vid going over the differences between Godzilla jr and manila? cuz some fans like me were not born till the tail end of 1994 and really can't hunt down older films and that to even try to get the difference, like far as I know they r similar in concept, with manila being hated by fans while jr is more positively viewed
Vol. 2 when?
We need more clarification
millennium Godzilla vs. force of absolute zero and a black hole: "did i break it?"
Showa Godzilla vs. king Kong and electricity: "oh god, why?!" lol
My guess for future misconceptions to be debunked in a sequel:
Are the miniatures made from cardboard? (No, they were made by a crafting company that used material such as plastic, foam, and wax. They never use cardboard, since cardboard miniatures can tear, burn, or flatten too easily)
Is Godzilla evil? (Only GMK Godzilla is definitely evil. Most of the time, Godzilla is a neutral force, and even when he IS the villain, he's usually shown as a tragic and sympathetic anti-villain or simply an unstoppable force of nature in many movies)
Was Godzilla vs. the Devil ever considered before being scrapped? (No. There were no plans for a movie featuring Godzilla fighting Satan (not to be confused with the IDW comic Godzilla in Hell))
Did Anguirus/Kamoebas/Gamera and Kumonga/Ebirah appear in Godzilla: King of the Monsters? (No, those are new kaiju: Methuselah and Scylla. However, a kaiju skeleton that "may or may not be Anguirus" can be seen in the underwater ruins)
Is the new MUTO in Godzilla: King of the Monsters Abaddon? (There is no official statement to prove this. Even the official novel adaptation of the movie simply called the new MUTO "a hunchbacked, six-legged MUTO" (despite actually having eight legs))
Was the concept art for a cephalopod kaiju for Godzilla: King of the Monsters meant to be Kraken from the novelization? (No proof for this either)
Is Gamera owned by Toho ever since Daiei filed bankruptcy? (No, he is owned by Kadokawa as of now. And despite appearing in concept art for KotM, Legendary has not yet approached Kadokawa to obtain the rights for Gamera)
Why did people think Kong won the fight with Godzilla? They both fell into the sea, right? And we see Kong swimming home? Godzilla lives in the damn sea, they both gave up and went home. That sure sounds like a draw to me.
Toho made the conscious decision to depict Kong as the only monster to emerge at the end. Godzilla was either knocked unconscious or retreated first, while Kong was able to surface before deciding to return home. Toho themselves stated Kong was the winner, their sales pamphlet from the time even directly says "King Kong is victorious."
Maurice Smith you clearly didn’t listen to the video
I like to think the fight wasn't going anywere so they said FUCK IT and left
@Maurice Smith are you dumb? Thats not misinformation. The creator of Godzilla, Tomoyuki Tanaka changed the outcome into a draw. So thats it. Creator said its a draw, so its a draw.
But then there is the matter of the next movie in which Godzilla regains consciousness after being washed ashore.
By the year 2020, we'll finally see a rematch between Godzilla & King Kong. In fact, i could picture how Godzilla VS King Kong might end. Just when either about the strike the final blow, Montra appears & warns them that a new, greater threat is on the horizon. This new threat is King Ghidora.
That's what happened when Godzilla and Rodan fought each other in "Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster".
Well, they can't do that because Mothra and Ghidora are both showing up in King of the Monsters. But if they made it another original kaiju, or go with Destroyah or a mysterious threat from space (aka Space Godzilla,) then it could work
@@DavidbarZeus1 Nope. The Director said there would be a definitive winner.
*I swear to god if kong wins...*
There is one legitimate element that does also make Shin come off as a manifestation of separate lifeforms, rather than one big one that you don't directly address, so I wanted to point it out --- When little bits of flesh are blasted off of Shin Godzilla, these globs of flesh will grow teeth and eyes similar to that of the main creature; they literally try to become miniature versions of the creature that they were originally part of. Now mind you, this could just be that, because of its super-mutation, its flesh is somehow able to survive on its own for several minutes, long enough to even attempt a full-scale evolution of its own, but this was the main reason why I originally assumed Shin was a Superorganism rather than just a standard mutated creature akin to the others.
I don't mind the gills at all, But I do want to say that it is weird that Godzilla has gills to begin with... There was a time period where there were plenty of marine reptiles none of which had evidence of gills. I only bring it up because I always thought Godzilla was like a whale where every now and then you just see him rise to the surface (maybe just his nose poke up) Where he then inhales And dives back down. I guess I'm just weird.
1:49 This theory and any variation of this theory always annoys me, and I'm someone who would actually like a continuation of the Heisei era.
This was interesting.
My personal theory was that the Mutos were meant to bare a passing resemblance to the cloverfield monster in some way, but that feels a bit more like something Toho would do rather than Legendary.
I always assumed that Heisei Godzilla had gills as well. Some might just call them overlapping armor plates protecting his throat, but come on.
I’ve never heard of half of these misconceptions
Agreey
Agreed
I need the backing music please
I always thought he had gills because it makes sense since he's underwater all the time LOL.
Some of these theories I used to think were true, such as Godzilla winning in the Japanese version of King Kong vs Godzilla, and the whole Godzilla Jr. becoming the 2000 Godzilla. Thanks WikiZilla for clearing these up.
still mad that kong won I swear to god 2020 make Godzilla win
MlgAaron I heard that they are gonna have them team up to fight a bigger monster as both monsters are not "villains."
Red1676 no, the director said there would be a definite winner
What I'm mad at isn't that Kong won. It's the fuss that Godzilla fans are making as a result of that. Seriously guys, chill! So what Godzilla lost, it's not the end of the world. What's strange is that I haven't seen many people complain about the ending of Mothra vs Godzilla, but when Kong wins, it's suddenly the worst thing ever. So two baby caterpillars are allowed to defeat Godzilla, but a giant ape isn't. I swear, this fanbase is so hypocritical. And no, I'm not badmouthing Mothra vs Godzilla. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those types of fans.
@@nanuqo2006 mothra is a moth and kong is a giant powerlifting gorilla, in what universe does a moth or even a lizard beat a gorilla? Like lol honestly Godzilla fans are the most cancerous and stupidest people I have come across.
@@acGyakushu_and_Shin It's because Kong fans like to justify every valid argument that a godzilla fan makes about who's stronger by saying "Oh, well Kinky Dong won in du old moovee!"
plz do why Godzilla isn't a rip-off of the beast from 20000 fathoms
[ Madman ] It was a inspiration, also King Kong.
Antonio Valdivia I know
many people don't know and can't accept it
[ Madman ] That's odd
The future filmmaker IKR !!
Wait that Reymart troll kid is still around? There was a solid year where he commented on every video about how Godzilla 1998 was the only good Godzilla and the Japanese Godzilla was "lol Barney Fatzilla ripoff of Beast from 20000 Fathoms and all his movies are box office bombs." He got really annoying, and I eventually just blocked him.
Even though this video doesn't really include stuff about Mothra and King Ghidorah I kinda wanted to drop this bit about the Rebirth of Mothra series and what I wish was true about it and why it doesn't (but should have) link up with the Godzilla Heisei series. Why didn't they just keep the continuity from the Godzilla Heisei series? In Rebirth of Mothra it could have been that Mothra had just returned from space after having saved the Earth from the meteor that Battra was supposed to destroy and then she decided to lay an egg. Then just change things around and say that Desghidorah had been defeated by a previous Mothra and sealed away. After that the movie can almost be exactly the same. (Minus all the kid stuff.) Just a few dialog changes. Then we could use these minor changes to explain stuff about King Ghidorah (from Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah) and "Grand" King Ghidorah/ Grand Ghidorah in Rebirth of Mothra 3. We could say that it was Thought to be Desghidorah that wiped out the dinosaurs but it really was a young Grand Ghidorah. And then with time travel and stuff involved Grand Ghidorah is beaten in the present by Armor Mothra. However; in a twist that could actually make sense, sometime in the future mankind finds traces of Grand Ghidorah cells where he was defeated by Armor Mothra. The scientist don't know what the origin of these cells are and just decide to use them for experiments. They end up making the Dorats that show up in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. And then the evil time travelers that want to ruin Japan figure out they can use the Dorats to make a new monster they can control. Thus a slightly different version of Grand Ghidorah is born. King Ghidorah. See how that works well together? I don't know why they didn't do that. Maybe you could make a video about this. Oh and how the Rebirth of Mothra movies should have been done better in first place. lol
You missed the biggest one of all. Godzilla breathes fire. When I hear that it’s just, ugh.
G-Fans: Making Godzilla lose to insects? Sure, awesome. Making Godzilla lose to a gorilla? NOW THAT'S TOO FAR!
It's sad how accurate this is. Not many people complained about Mothra defeating Godzilla, but it's somehow the end of the world when Kong defeats Godzilla. It's a shame how hypocritical and immature many Godzilla fans are.
Agreed...back in 1962, in both American and Japanese versions of KING KONG VS GODZILLA, Kong's the HERO. When the film was made, Godzilla was still a villain, and Tomoyuki Tanaka's retcon isn't that much different than having Greedo shoot first in the STAR WARS special edition in 1997 because Han Solo had become such a fan favorite.
I'm actually more surprised that the Heisei Godzilla *doesn't* have gills. Like you said, Godzilla lives under the water so it seems like a no-brainer that it has some means of breathing underwater.
It's possible the Heisei Godzilla has gills as well, it just isn't confirmed like it is for the Showa and MonsterVerse Godzillas.
The gills don’t bother me, but pretty much everything else about the Legendary Godzilla does
Now that mothra/rodan/ghidorah are #confirmed , I kind of dread seeing what mothra will look like in G2. The G2014 Muto was the most sophisticated looking thing I'd seen, regarding a big-screen, realistic godzilla combatant, so hopefully the mothra of G2 will look as well-designed.
I kind of like the idea that Jr is the Godzilla in final wars, but that’s just my head cannon
Same, it makes so little sense, but its hard to accept the fact that they did nothing with JR
me too hell with the haters. my heart and the editor of 2004 knows the truth..
Stoopid!!!!
@@varshakaul9587 No.....
Attempts to smash all Godzilla films into some singular continuity leads to nothing but trouble.
From its start the Millennium (1999-2004) Series' entries EACH had separate continuities connecting only to the 1954 original (Godzilla x Megaguirus even went out of its way to create a fictional history of post-1954 Japan), but Tokyo SOS confused the issue as a direct sequel to the previous film. Then Final Wars said "hold my beer" and freakin' threw Minya at us. But COME ON, fanboys--GMK Angry Spirits Godzilla, Jet Jaguar Handshake Godzilla and Burning Meltdown Godzilla don't co-exist in a single continuity any more than the 1943 serial Batman, Michael Keaton Batman and Christian Bale Batman do.
One Toho kaiju classic that DID have two endings, Frankenstein Conquers the World, was originally intended to be a Godzilla film (and was inspired by the never-filmed US film King Kong vs Frankenstein). In a scene shot to satisfy American co-producers, a giant octopus suddenly appears without explanation and drags "Frankenstein" to his doom, but this ending was ultimately rejected and only saw light of day when it was accidentally aired on TV, becoming an instant fan obsession. Did some foggy memory about giant primates fighting octopi lead to a rumor about the wrong film--King Kong vs Godzilla?
I like the theory--just as unsupported as any other--that "Gojira" is simply a mashup of "gorira" (gorilla) and "kujira" (whale), who were at the time mistakenly considered the most dangerous creatures of land and sea.
"Gojira" being a combination of _gorira_ and _kujira_ is not a "theory," it's the actual origin of Godzilla's name. Just how that name was conceived and decided upon is unclear, and there are countless rumors about it, the most common being that it was the nickname of someone working for Toho.
ScreamingScallop Millennium Era began in 2000 not 1999. In 1999 only Kaiju movie it was it's Mothra vs Desghidorah. If Toho was going to make Heisei Godzilla Jr back make him adult and stronger than his dad at least bit it might make him fight with Desghidorah.
"Attempts to smash all Godzilla films into some singular continuity leads to nothing but trouble"
Tell that to fans of Matt Frank's Godzilla Neo series.
No please seriously.
great video!
In the liner notes for the Godzilla Millenium soundtrack, it states that Junior is G99. That may be the origin of the rumor.