1:15 handley Page Halifax, slipped in among Avro Lancaster Shots! actually those pictures of Vickers Schemes A-D were featured in The excellent 'British secret Bomber Projects, by Tony Buttler. Available from Pen & Sword publishing. HOABL
I'm glad to see I was given credit for my images at 3:23, 4:39 and 6:32. It's okay though, I appreciate the love being spread about this concept. I should probably get off my ass and make a video about it myself.
@F-14DTomcat Honestly it's fine. If it gets more people into aerospace, I'm all for it and I'm probably not much better myself. I try to use videos from Wikipedia and items that to my knowledge are fair use, but I'm just one person and inevitably things slip through. I'd made the images here back in 2014 so they're almost 10 year old, they've had their time and I can probably do better now if I revisit them.
Not sure what the intended mission would have been? The 10000kg Grand Slam could penetrate almost anything, why build a heaver weapon for the European theatre? The Lancaster could have used more speed, more altitude and defensive armament (more 50cals) but it carried all the bomb load needed and had the range to hit any European target.
I don't have a real idea of what could it have been used for, and I think British High command didn't knew more than me, so it is logical that they abandoned this project. The only thing it could have been used for would in the Operation ''Unthinkable'' against Soviets, but I am not sure...
@@F-14DTomcat In 1945, with the war in Europe won the RAF experimented with in air refuelling of Lancasters to reach Japan from their bases in Asia. It has also been speculated that the RAF were working up a squadron to carry an A-bomb should the atomic bomb enabled B29 not be ready in time. The low ceiling and low relative speed (compared to a Boeing B29) would have made the bomb run especially hazardous, but it was thought with appropriate flight manoeuvring it could be pulled off. Perhaps the Vickers proposal would have made sense in a protracted war against Japan?
Honestly, it could have been useful because it could take of from very short runways so yes it could have been useful but I don't think that the UK would send these because the Vickers type c if it had been completed before the end of the war in Asia would have been a very expensive plane and with its low ceiling compared to the B-19, there would be a higher risk to loose these. But honestly, I don't really know.
Fantastic film. The Germans were not the only ones with wildly modern aircrat designs. But did you not mean the engines should have between 1,200 and 1,900 HP? In any case, I also read that R.J Mitchell, designer of the Spitfire was working on a high-speed bomber project before he died of cancer in 1937. One can only conjecture that it might have been to bomber design what the Spitfire was to fighters...
Indeed, it was to be be between 1200 and 1900 since there is no more precise information on it. And, yes it is a very interesting theory which creates even more curiosity about this plane.
I always thought this was a Supermarine design, Thanks for the correction. Although, didn't Supermarine design something similar? Maybe with less engines? Here is a like and a subscribe. I'm a fan of aviation and I appreciate your work.
Another fun and interesting peek at the oddball projects. Also I don't know where you are getting the artwork but in this and your other videos the pictures and art works are a good companion to the spoken information. So another "WELL DONE! From me.
@@josephgallacher3729 A Bristol Centaurus is over 3000 Hp . 19000Hp is the power brought by all the engines, I just said it in a way that makes this that it is the power of a single engine...
There are quite a few concepts/ideas out there but, we've been swamped with US propaganda for so long. Things like the post war British V1 with one man capsule or the secret atomic bomb Lancaster squadron etc.
1:15 handley Page Halifax, slipped in among Avro Lancaster Shots! actually those pictures of Vickers Schemes A-D were featured in The excellent 'British secret Bomber Projects, by Tony Buttler.
Available from Pen & Sword publishing.
HOABL
Oh yes, it was hard to notice but it is indeed a HP Halifax!
where were they going to get a twenty five ton bomb / there was only two foundries that could make the ten tonner
Idk, maybe if the bomber was approved, they would have built a factory specially for this type of bomb.
I'm glad to see I was given credit for my images at 3:23, 4:39 and 6:32.
It's okay though, I appreciate the love being spread about this concept. I should probably get off my ass and make a video about it myself.
Oh sorry, I put the link to these images in the sources of informations, I will fix that. Hopping it did not bothered you to much.
@F-14DTomcat Honestly it's fine. If it gets more people into aerospace, I'm all for it and I'm probably not much better myself. I try to use videos from Wikipedia and items that to my knowledge are fair use, but I'm just one person and inevitably things slip through. I'd made the images here back in 2014 so they're almost 10 year old, they've had their time and I can probably do better now if I revisit them.
@@ShizzleStyx Glad to see you are not angry, and concerning your pictures, they are very well done even for today!
@@F-14DTomcat I did eventually get off my ass and make a video about it:
ua-cam.com/video/yRjhFhxbVqA/v-deo.html
Also, happy New Year!
Not sure what the intended mission would have been? The 10000kg Grand Slam could penetrate almost anything, why build a heaver weapon for the European theatre? The Lancaster could have used more speed, more altitude and defensive armament (more 50cals) but it carried all the bomb load needed and had the range to hit any European target.
I don't have a real idea of what could it have been used for, and I think British High command didn't knew more than me, so it is logical that they abandoned this project. The only thing it could have been used for would in the Operation ''Unthinkable'' against Soviets, but I am not sure...
@@F-14DTomcat In 1945, with the war in Europe won the RAF experimented with in air refuelling of Lancasters to reach Japan from their bases in Asia. It has also been speculated that the RAF were working up a squadron to carry an A-bomb should the atomic bomb enabled B29 not be ready in time. The low ceiling and low relative speed (compared to a Boeing B29) would have made the bomb run especially hazardous, but it was thought with appropriate flight manoeuvring it could be pulled off. Perhaps the Vickers proposal would have made sense in a protracted war against Japan?
Honestly, it could have been useful because it could take of from very short runways so yes it could have been useful but I don't think that the UK would send these because the Vickers type c if it had been completed before the end of the war in Asia would have been a very expensive plane and with its low ceiling compared to the B-19, there would be a higher risk to loose these. But honestly, I don't really know.
Fantastic film. The Germans were not the only ones with wildly modern aircrat designs. But did you not mean the engines should have between 1,200 and 1,900 HP? In any case, I also read that R.J Mitchell, designer of the Spitfire was working on a high-speed bomber project before he died of cancer in 1937. One can only conjecture that it might have been to bomber design what the Spitfire was to fighters...
Indeed, it was to be be between 1200 and 1900 since there is no more precise information on it. And, yes it is a very interesting theory which creates even more curiosity about this plane.
I always thought this was a Supermarine design, Thanks for the correction. Although, didn't Supermarine design something similar? Maybe with less engines? Here is a like and a subscribe. I'm a fan of aviation and I appreciate your work.
Thanks a lot and welcome on the channel :)
Indeed, Supermarine had a project of a heavy bomber, it was the Supermarine type 317.
3:00 did i hear right 12000 to 19000 Horsepower?!?
Another fun and interesting peek at the oddball projects. Also I don't know where you are getting the artwork but in this and your other videos the pictures and art works are a good companion to the spoken information. So another "WELL DONE! From me.
Thanks a lot 🙂, and concerning the art works, I find these as I search for information or articles on the subject.
Keep up the good work. I am really enjoying your vods.
Thanks :)
19000 HP?
It's the power brought by all the engines.
1900? Typo mistake?
@@josephgallacher3729 A Bristol Centaurus is over 3000 Hp . 19000Hp is the power brought by all the engines, I just said it in a way that makes this that it is the power of a single engine...
Looking at it I dont know weather its going backwards or forwards, that's 1940's stealth tech at work.
Lol it's true, doghtfighting a J7W1 Senden in War Thunder and facing a is really confusing.
The RAF also employed the Handley Page Halifax and the Shorts Stirling, Both were four-engined types.
Indeed, these were also nice Four-engine heavy bombers which also deserve to be mentioned.
Thanks for the video. Amusing. Subbed.
Thanks for the sub :)
Why have I never even heard of this big British bomber? Incredible!
Thks :)
There are quite a few concepts/ideas out there but, we've been swamped with US propaganda for so long. Things like the post war British V1 with one man capsule or the secret atomic bomb Lancaster squadron etc.
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Congratulations :) (again😂)