The J35XS Is The Cooler Dorito
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Fuel: Max Tank
Ammo: Air targets
Weapons: 6x Aim-9J Sidewinder + flares
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: Lvl 75 + expert
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Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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Hearing him say nya nya neko is not something I expected to hear today lol
W H A T
what does it mean???
@@Wally_Wombat689i think it means moew moew cat
@@eugeniuszwt159 lmao hahah. Insert Chinese navy here
The pretty much flareless Draken, 9/10
it has large calibre all you need to do is press the flare key once
Me getting clapped by them in an f5c is the biggest skill issue anybody may have witnessed in warthunder history
Its criminal why we don't have the J35J in game. The difinitive final variant of the Draken.
F35XD > Multiroll draken goes hard
im autistic
nice
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i love the fact this is the first and only comment i see
same
hi autistic i'm cyberbot17
7:45 DEFYN saying nyan nyan neko killed me 💀
Timestamp?
@@johan-apo7:48
Funny how the swedish planes didn't have tracers because they all used lead indicators but in game only like half of the planes have them
you know its a good day when defyn uploads
Glazing is unreal
@@soysauce6977 youre unreal
you know its a good day when defyn fills your insides with his white, thick, warm and sticky fluid
@@soysauce6977I'll glaze you
Bro it's monday
This plane really is amazing. It gets 6 missiles, and out dogfights everything it faces. I would definitely take this over the underpowered crap that is the J-7E. The Draken can turn better, and has 6 missiles, 60 more rounds of ammo, and plus has .3 lower BR(doesn't see F16s and Mig29s). Seems like a good deal to me
Fun fact: J-7E gets more than 6 pops of countermeasures, and does not lose all its speed in a singular turn. It also has much better missiles, something that is called the PL-5B, ever heard of it?
pls tell me you're joking that J-7e is underpowered
@@-..----.--.-... You have no radar missiles, you are slow, you only have 4 missiles that you can only shoot from their dead 6, and your gun is dogwater because you have 60 rounds, means you have to get people really really slow in hopes of killing them, and a slow jet is a dead jet.
Also, you're literally one of the slowest planes at 11.0. You might be able to outturn some people, but everyone can just boom and zoom. That is not taking account of potential 12.0s that will just shred you to pieces.
I can tell you that J35XS is a lot better because it is a bit faster, can turn just as well or better, and has six missiles that shoots just as far that aren't useless at close range. yes, you only have 6 pops but its worth it for all the trade-off such as better maneuverability, ammo, better and more missiles
Blud what are you smoking 😂
Easily still one of my favorite planes.
Always loved the Draken, since I was a kid.
To learn when to and when not to engage in dogfight is a massive leap forward at being good at this game, indeed.
I felt like they nerfed this thing when I was flying it recently, but couldn't tell if I was just having a schizo moment or it actually got gajiined. Thanks for confirming I'm not crazy
They have been slowly giving elevator nerfs to aircraft all over the game since they introduced the F-16 and the player base complained, rightly, that the F-16 wasn't dominating in a dogfight. It makes them more representative of what they were actually capable of in terms of elevator pull.
Yeah, yet if it you ask about it in chat everyone (specifically the F5C players) call skill issue
I really like this plane, only thing that makes me pretty frustrated sometimes is when game gets too prolonged i run out of fuel so i have to make a decision between running out or getting strafed on the airfield. when playing SIM it also makes chasing someone down literally impossible. I really wish we could get a drop tank for Draken some day.
What do you think of using IRST to slave missiles? i noticed its not in the video, it sometimes has been helpful for me.
Same here. In Sim it’s practically impossible to stay in any sort of engagement because of the fuel economy (or lack thereof). I’d adore a drop tank.
The IRST is incredible for getting the seeker on target while not letting the enemy know. I’ve gotten pretty long AIM-9J shots off that way.
I flew this so much recently to get through the Swedish tech tree. I used the rocket pods as extra flares and for ground pounding. Did work quite well but the F-5's were the bane of my existence ...
that's the F-5s to every plane 9.3-11.7. Truly stupid.
F5c,s are easy to kill if ur paying attention and its just 1 of em, 2 is harder but still managable and 3 is nearly impossible
@@oscargraefling3369 they're easy to kill if THEY'RE not paying attention lol. But that goes for every plane.
Cheer thanks for that. Love your work.
Very cool video.
i don't care if gripen might very likely get le nerfs, it's one of the coolest planes in game and it will always be 💯🗿
Could you cover the J8F again and give some thoughts on how to fly it at 12.0 before it gets its radar missiles? I’ve had some great games and a lot where all my missiles go stupid and chase the first flare or a missile they shoot, feels inconsistent
Pissed they didn't make this tech tree. Should've made the Finnish 21bis the premium instead.
They will probably add a J35J in the tech tree at some point. It's the final Swedish production variant of the draken and i'm pretty sure it's very similar to the XS, possibility slightly better.
Could you make an up-to-date video on the F3H-2?
as a J35A player, I disapprove of the cooler Dorito, simply because I have to deal with the fact of not having flares
They danger doritos are a menace in dogfights though, love them!
Wait until you get the true double dorito aka the viggen. And then the new-new dorito gripen. What’s with Sweden and dorito planes?
@@thatguynk8044 I‘ve flown the Draken Doritos already, with about 50mins of Videos. God they‘re great when spaded
The Gripen Dorito however.. that thing is just there to bully people. If they commit, they‘ll get clubbed. French Dorito aside.
Yo, do you use vertical targeting, and what is your convergence? Ps Keep up the good work on your content!
It's always in the video description
Yesterday intrude to energy trap one of those things in my f5c for like 5min and make them bleed their speed- didn’t work so I reversed him wich worked perfectly
Super fun to play love this plane
Dorito supremacy
hello mr defyn. I have been grinding sweden on and off for about 2 years now and I have finally gotten the Gripen (I have the J35A to thank for that, an incredible plane that is overlooked due to its ass missiles and lack of tracers) and I have some trouble even sustaining a fight. I am stock so I have only 2 RB74s but the main problem I have is where to go on the map to actually survive. I find myself getting ultra-targeted by radar/AIM9-Ms/R73s and when I try to dpgfight I always find myself getting knocked out due to Gforces. Do you have any tips? Also what control scheme do you use? I still use mouse aim and that makes me feel like im at an disadvantage but im probably just dogass
not defyn, but have a full swedish aviation tree and love playing them. with the gripen, it doesn't have BVR or ranged engagement so the best thing to do is to hit the deck and go off to the side, using the terrain for cover. like, dodging trees and rocks type low. this is how the swedes really plan to engage an enemy force. go into any fur ball low and aggressively passing through and taking shots of opportunity. drop a lot of countermeasures and fly defensively while doing it, do not get caught up chasing a single enemy. the cruel joke with the gripen is while it could be the best turn fighter, resist doing it in most cases. between passing out on every high speed turn (it's not you, that's how good the thing is) or bleeding out too much speed and becoming an easy target, it usually results in death either way. use that speed, defensive maneuvering abilities, and all those counter measures to pull away and lead them to your teammates when someone gets behind you or until you're far enough away to safely turn - and remember stay low to the deck, always.
In the super stall i found out if you cut thraltol and have air bracks on with forcing the nose down you dont need 2 km but if it was a very bad one you definitely did
I’ve been getting uptiers lately with the 35XS, I just swapped it out with the 21Bis for slightly stress free grinding
And man the R-3R is surprisingly a good head-on missile.
Defyn, very honest question:
If I suck ass in this thing, is it because it is hard or because I am fucking terrible at the game?
I have a horrible time in it most of the time because at 11.3 and 11.7 especially it just seems so hard to use.
Hey Defyn, will we see a Griffon Spit video soon?
After the sale, these things were absolute food for my F5C for a couple of weeks
what do yall think about taking the small rockets as flares?
defyn is actually the dutch goat BIG love from denmark
damn no wonder i dont like flying this thing after a few months break, they changed the damn flight model when it was perfectly fine smh. PLUS GAIJIN PLS GIVE RADAR GUNSIGHT FOR THE XS ITS LITERALLY THE REASON IT LOST A GUN IN THE FIRST PLACE
Technically it wasn't perfectly fine. Most aircraft weren't. The introduction of the F-16 to the game proved it and made the player base aware of it. The player base complained, rightfully, that the F-16 wasn't winning dogfights that it should have been. Predictably they blamed the wrong thing saying that Gaijin was using an overly strict G limiter when that wasn't the issue. Since then Gaijin has been slowly rolling out a nerf of the elevator pull of aircraft in game to make them closer to realistic.
Before the F-16 was added to the game aircraft were allowed to pull what Gaijin wanted to let them pull with no accuracy regarded and no consistency between aircraft. Some aircraft had little to no elevator buff (Hornet) while the A6M was, and still is, the worst offender in having the largest elevator buff relative to history.
@@rainsilentit was actually the only good flight model in terms of how it reacted
@@williewilson2250 How aircraft react is a whole other thing that Gaijin has issues with.
@@rainsilentI just wish they would fix the “instructor” instead of adjusting every individual plane to match the broken instructor. Make that actually work properly, then go back and tweak the individual planes. But at least they are doing something instead of nothing lol
@@rainsilent I meant with how you wanted them to, it felt smooth but in a way that matched it's size
You can also Radar slave the missiles
I bought this when it was on sale 1 week ago this jet is very good but my only complaint is the uptiers into f4s,mig23ml and f14 lobbys
U should do the Israeli spitfire cw.
Turns like a bi plane in a 5.7 br and not as slow as the other spitfires
That's just the LF MK IX with a different flag slapped on it. He already made a video on it
The premium one without the clipped wings is better anyways
@@williewilson2250 bbbrrrrruuuuuuhhhhhhhhh.
The one w the clipped wings outturn, outclime and generally outperform the whaizman premium spitfire
No it cant the premium is better in everyway we can do a 1v1 custom if you dont believe me. The only advantage you have is a slightly faster roll rate and you cant use that in a fight aginst me in the wizmen spit@AYthunder
@@jaybabe7767 want a 1v1?
What's your discord
Defyn could daddy get a video on the spitfire mark 24 so I can know if your opinion on it is the correct one
How can i shoot only 2 flares i mean i have made it in the menu to shoot 2 but it still shoots 4 so please help me
Set it to one…
How do you rate the guns now we have tracer rounds
I have seen ppl using the rocket pods as flares.
Thats a defyn moment lol 7:52
Can you do a j35a video somewhen
This thing is a beast in sim dog fighting when 10.7 is the top of the bracket. You sit behind people so easily and pick up gun kills. Only 2 downsides is fuel and no rwr.
Nya nya neko was a W Defyn moment 😂
Is it worth spending $70 for it? or should I look at another nations top tier premium? I already have the J35A
No
Wait for the sales instead if you don’t like crushing your own balls
7:48 “Nya Nya Neko”
The cooler dorito, not to be confused with the freezer dorito.
Im so good with j35 especialy gunfights in air rb
Its just practice and for peeps who want to know what kind i use
Its the J35A and J35D i dont have the xs jet
those are far better at gun fights having two guns. the one offset gun on the XS is much harder to use
4:25 Defyn says he lost, so that must mean he clapped their cheeks so hard that he'd be accused of cheating if he showed it.
See the cool thing is i actually have this one so this vid helps me :D
war thunder players try to roll out of a head-on challenge (impossible)
Is the f15 or the f16 a better plane to get as your first tier 8 in US tree?
F-16, hands down.
@@combatwombat2134 thanks! Could you also just explain why? I’m still not sure what the big differences between the 2 jets are in game
@@MrQuackios personally for me it's the versatility in both GRB and ARB. Good missiles, great speed and acceleration, great air to ground load out and super manoeuvrable. Whilst the load out is functionally the same, the F-16 gets the AGMs and the Paveway IIs with a laser designator.
I quite like the F-15 as a bomb truck and make a good bit of cash from that but I like the '16s speed and flight characteristics over the others.
To boot, I don't get QUITE as conscious of SPAAs in it whereas when I'm in SPAA I'm always on the lookout for some high flying F-16 with ordnance.
Also say the F16. plays into the meta better being smaller, more agile and harder to target.
7:49 Nyan nya neko ^v^
Why don't you use the IRST? Slaving the missiles feels pretty helpful when I play, is it just a placebo?
The situations he showed didn’t really have any need for it. I would imagine he did use it in some situations that we didn’t see
J35D please ik it isn’t available but that makes it even better(same with me mirage Milan)
super late comment, but if you're like me and due to the low ammo cannon only take close shots, set the convergence to ~300 or less, went from hating the gun to it feeling like a dream to use
good morning my sweet prince
I know why you have your radar off but just use the irst its really good and the missiles slave on it. Makes getting a lock at side aspect much easier
i would prefer if the J35XS can drop 1 flare instead of pairs. hence, that gives us 12 pops
Its the spicy dorito
Good day
Just a ok plane
what is agile eagle?
Forward slats that makes a plane turn sharper at the cost of dumping more of your speed
Could you make a video showin us your controls and maybe explaining them?
Should've been in tech tree.
Forget autism, I’m Ryan Gosling
Honestly, I find this one of the least fun top tier premiums. It's just not fun to fly, barring the occasional 200 kias stall fight where it suddenly starts behaving like a fat zero - it retains energy whenever you don't want it to, accelerates like a brick and basically has 6 flares and the Swedish tech tree is just so shitty prior to the JAS39 that you never want to play anything you've actually unlocked.
I don't quite understand why this thing is a whole BR higher than my beloved MiG-21S. Sure the migger doesnt have flares and has 2 fewer missiles but it does have radar missiles and early RWR so it thrives at altitude. I think the Draken would do better at like 10.0
Then you have the issue of the J35A being at 9.7 😂
rb24j is better than r3r/s.
@@thomashanson6603 obviously, but the MiG has better guns. Also the R-3R is better than people think it is, but most don't know how to use it right.
@@HumphreyHorsehead Very true, I've dueled with a guy who was good with it, it was quite hard to dodge. 10.0 would be crazy for this thing though lmfao.
@DEFYN wouldn't that be the Ranch dorito the Cool Ranch 😁
Almost there
Spicy dorito
Please do the Mig21 Luarz M
Swordfish video when? 😂
Play the B-239
I'm genuinely so shit with this thing its unreal. I can't work with it at all; which is my fault as she's fine with other people. Bought it to help grind the Swedish air tree to compliment my completed ground tree and I just get slammed hard every time I'm in it.
If anyone's got any recommendations I'd love to hear 'em. Mayve rockets and just base bomb?
Speed and patience. Try to stay at least .8mach and don’t take a dogfight if there are people around. You have 6 missiles with pretty decent range to get kills with, so early game stay on the outskirts and try to put yourself in a position to use that. Then you can start isolating people to dogfight after it has thinned out.
No, don’t base bomb if you want to do that play a bomber.
Go fight in this thing it’s easy I average 2-3 kill games per match and I’m not even using my guns
No, don’t base bomb if you want to do that play a bomber.
Go fight in this thing it’s easy I average 2-3 kill games per match and I’m not even using my guns
Why are you not using the IRST ?
real
what else can they nerf on the Gripen without making it horrible and super unrealistic?
Its pretty op no lie
revisit the italian sagitario
now its at 11.7
lil drac
do a vid about j7e
I have 11 kills, 7 games, 0 deaths, this thing is great lol
where's the dip?
day 1 of asking Defyn to fly the Bf 109 E-3 (not as highscore archives)
i have the saab and sometimes its ASS and sometimes i love it
you have 111k subs lol!
UA-cam updates views live now?
Cool Ranch Doritos are tasty 😋👍
Best 10.7 jet I'd say
Worst 10.7 jet i'd say.
This thing is really annoying to fight in an F5C, you can energy trap, but only if you’re alone, and that doesn’t happen very often
Which is funny because the F5C is annoying to fight in the 35XS, especially when there’s 6-10 of the F5s in every lobby when I play the XS.
@@ThatProduceGuy_ lol they just perfectly counter eachother, the thing is, we can’t use our strengths against eachother because we’ll both just get killed by a random guy
Just keep the throttle nailed and keep pulling. He will fall out of the sky.
@@thomashanson6603 problem is when I have to go defensive against 3 new guys, I lose all my position and speed
@@batlax18 Fair enough, but I guess it works that way for basically anything if the 3 guys have at least 2 brain cells between them.
Gripen getting nerfed every update since release 💀
Good that thing was ridiculous to fight ina 1v1 or in a furball
They also buffed the AIM-9J/P
Took the radar slaving tho
@@williewilson2250 9ps (and rb24js which are based on them) kept it.
@@thomashanson6603 yeah ik, but it's still not there for the 9j
You're plane RB Jesus, who would troll you in the comments? I can probably count the number ppl with your level of skill on one hand.
the guns are so good to slap slow A-10s and
i call it the Jesus
Defyn 😀
Naaaaahhhh the Javelin is the cooler dorito
They definitely did something to cannon damage. It's so incredibly low right now.
I've hit a f9f with a 2 second burst in a su9 and I barely damaged him...
And it's happening even in this video. A 30mm like this is supposed to tear the enemy to shreds, not fucking spark
"A 30mm like this is supposed to tear the enemy to shreds, not fucking spark"
With several hits, yes. One hit will not shred an aircraft unless it hits something that will cause extra damage from something like an explosion. A lot of players seem to want get a hit get a kill or instant serious crit when that isn't what it is like in real life. No, the game isn't real life and I don't want it to be real life damage either (over 300 rounds with lmg caliber weaponry just to bring down a small fighter and 2000+ to bring down a medium bomber like a 111? No thank you.) but that isn't the key issue here. The key issue is a lack of a standard from Gaijin. They keep arbitrarily buffing guns to the point that they border on one tap territory and then nerf them to about half way between realistic and one tap territory and then go back to buffing again with no consistency and no real reason.
typical lmg round is 7.62, you are are comparing an Ak-47 round to something that is almost the size of the grenade launcher round slung under that ak… with substantially more velocity than the 7.62, and almost as much explosive as the grenade. I agree getting one shot all the time would be annoying, but it should at least do something. 30mm on props blows the wings off of massive bombers with 1 hit, but a much better one can’t even injure something less than half the size in 1 shot?
@@norske_ow3440 I wasn't comparing a LMG to a 30mm. Don't know where you got that idea from.
"30mm on props blows the wings off of massive bombers with 1 hit, but a much better one can’t even injure something less than half the size in 1 shot?"
1. Large bombers losing a wing from one hit is complete Gaijin fiction. Historically it took ~8 hits for a German 30mm to take down a heavy bomber.
2. Just because you get a hit doesn't mean you didn't injure a plane.
3. 'Much better' is a baseless assumption on your part. Just because a 30mm is on a jet doesn't mean that it is instantly much better than a 30mm on a prop.
4. Comparing different guns in completely different settings when you don't know any of the specifics of what is going on (in terms of in game gun performance and vehicle durability) is completely nonsensical.
I get where you are coming from but your assumptions are completely reliant on some form of gun damage consistency on Gaijin's part, which it doesn't have, and consistency in aircraft damage models, which Gaijin doesn't do. Gaijin does both completely arbitrarily. What Gaijin thinks they should do is what they do. This is why the A-26Bs and Cs, despite being technically the exact same aircraft, have drastically different damage profiles and react completely differently when hit by the same gun/ammo. The Cs are much tougher than the Bs because "bomber" vs "attacker".
@@rainsilent that 30mm number is way off. It was 3-4 as per the luftwaffe. 20mm took 20-30.
Of course, the Draken uses different ammo - arguably worse as last I checked it had way less explosive mass.
And I do agree that gaijin has zero damage consistency - the MG151 has gone from mid, to the best 20mm (for props at least), to mid-bad. The japanese Type 99-2s have gone through the exact opposite, from regular onetappers to quite bad, and now to very reliable one-burst killers; this all being before RealShatter, immediately after, and currently.
This makes zero sense.
@@reinbeers5322 I was going by US and UK reports that calculated based on hits of survivors and post war German camera footage for kills wherever possible for the slow 30mm. US and UK reports for the 20mm 151/20 say 16-20 hits on average. Our numbers are at least close.
The issue is that Gaijin doesn't establish a baseline to go off of. They just go by feel I presume and just make everything up. Case in point realshatter and the associated frag damage was not the way WW2 era HE ammo did most of their damage. It was through raw blast power. When realshatter was introduced they buffed frag damage and nerfed blast damage. This is why the 151/20 has been suffering the most as it did the most blast damage and least frag.