The Peril of Bear Meat: A Conversation with Steven Rinella and Michael Ruhlman

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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
  • Steven Rinella and Michael Ruhlman discuss the proper way to cook bear meat. Ruhlman is co-author of accidentally the best wild game cookbook Steve's ever encountered, Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking, and Curing: amzn.to/QiqGs8
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  • @williamkearney
    @williamkearney 3 роки тому +12

    I just harvested a boone & crockett 21 1/8 black bear in Northeast WA
    Love your show Steve I have learned so much from watching you over the years

  • @freesoul3371
    @freesoul3371 5 років тому +13

    Buy a digital meat thermometer for $25 and cook to 160+ and you won't have any problems. USDA guidelines for PORK says to cook to 145 these days as trichinosis is no longer a problem in domestic pigs. I have been cooking my pork loin to 145+ which is medium, which is slight pinkish for years with no problems, same for leg of lamb and rack. Cook bear like you cook chicken and turkey, 160+ and well done and you won't have any problems.

  • @RandomBJJGuy
    @RandomBJJGuy 6 років тому +113

    He ended up getting trichonosis lol

    • @TylerLL2112
      @TylerLL2112 6 років тому +1

      Tom Something fierce😂

    • @codyactually2557
      @codyactually2557 5 років тому +11

      Yeh but from a different bear that he didn't cook nearly enough.

    • @rek1580
      @rek1580 4 роки тому +15

      Dude ate it raw pretty much lmao what do you expect

    • @christopherram8948
      @christopherram8948 4 роки тому +1

      How did he end up getting it?

    • @RandomBJJGuy
      @RandomBJJGuy 4 роки тому +6

      @@christopherram8948 eating undercooked bear

  • @ileaddeaths
    @ileaddeaths 6 років тому +28

    Rinella has said the word trichinosis more than any other word hes ever said lol

  • @Nkuchmak
    @Nkuchmak 5 років тому +8

    The rationale behind why freezing is not recommended is that there has been some evidence from marine mammals in the arctic with specific strains of trichinella to survive freezing temps

    • @rl3479
      @rl3479 4 роки тому +8

      my dad got trichinosis from eating an undercooked chunk of bear sausage (while in the process of making the sausage). The meat had been previously frozen for months. Cysts of parasites are much more resilient than the adult parasites. Those suckers got into his muscles and it was very painful before it was all over. The cysts will remain inside of him and if somthing decides to eat him, they will get it also. fun fact lol

    • @tylerpulido5284
      @tylerpulido5284 2 роки тому +2

      I think maybe if you got the freezing temps down to -60 Fahrenheit that might do the trick. But who has a freezer that can go that low just to take a gamble in the end right?

  • @TheWoodedBeardsman
    @TheWoodedBeardsman 6 років тому +29

    The bears continue to elude me.

    • @sleepn_on_me2473
      @sleepn_on_me2473 4 роки тому +3

      Oh fuck you did eat a fox XD fuck didn’t you say it tasted like wet dog?
      Oh lord.... you’re a savage

    • @americanpatriot6918
      @americanpatriot6918 3 роки тому +4

      Hope you guys get a Bear soon, your the only channel I've seen process all the meat. Plus give recipes and show the process of how to use the whole animal. God speed brother!! Hope you get your bear!🤜🤛💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @brianaustin2135
    @brianaustin2135 4 роки тому +10

    I’d love to be at a party with a drunk Steve rinella eating bear that’s my scene bro

    • @samclemmons5373
      @samclemmons5373 3 роки тому +4

      Check out his other video where he gets trichinosis and gives it to a bunch of his buddies...

    • @pamtnman1515
      @pamtnman1515 11 місяців тому

      Plenty of wild game parties serve bear

  • @kssgcasper797
    @kssgcasper797 11 років тому +4

    Awesome advice here, and I learned something new! Not being a bear hunter (haven't tried my hand yet) I had no Idea they carried Trich like hogs, now I do and will make sure to cook the hell out of the meat if and when I start bears.

  • @shermdog6969
    @shermdog6969 3 роки тому +4

    Freeze at 5° for a few weeks or heat above 137° and your good. Do both.

    • @Christopher.Mathew
      @Christopher.Mathew 3 роки тому +2

      In this episode steve explains why freezing doesn't work with bear.

  • @casualobserver2380
    @casualobserver2380 3 роки тому +15

    Who the hell wants rare bear meat anyway?

  • @nrasbmc
    @nrasbmc 4 роки тому +3

    This is good to know. And knowing is half the battle!

  • @littlewing7813
    @littlewing7813 3 роки тому +8

    150 isn't enough heat.
    165 is minimum cooking temperature for black bear to kill trichonosis for black bear squirrel and pork meat

    • @shermdog6969
      @shermdog6969 3 роки тому +2

      Believe it dies at 137° but I go to 160.

    • @sabertachet
      @sabertachet 3 роки тому +1

      165 is what the government says, but it's much more complicated than that. If you're doing sous vide you can even bring it down to 145 or lower and still be good because it's all about the length of time it's at a temperature. You can cook even chicken to 136 if you do it sous vide for a couple hours, but the government won't tell you that for liability reasons.

  • @MeatEaterTV
    @MeatEaterTV  11 років тому +16

    In Part 3 of our conversation series with Michael Ruhlman, Steve explains how to properly cook bear meat to avoid trichinosis. Check it out:

  • @johnathankarch4484
    @johnathankarch4484 10 років тому +16

    Well.... This is good information for a guy about to leave on a black bear hunt next week.

    • @johnathankarch4484
      @johnathankarch4484 8 років тому +12

      +Kirito It was a great hunt. I did get a small bear, but being my first he is a real trophy. Was very delicious too.

    • @kobetakemura5179
      @kobetakemura5179 2 роки тому

      @@johnathankarch4484 congrats man

  • @LOZBRY
    @LOZBRY 7 років тому +3

    Hi there I'm just puzzled than no one seems to eat brown bear only black bear we don't eat any bear here in the UK but I would love to try it

    • @SteelChains
      @SteelChains 7 років тому +3

      Correct way of wording it would be-
      ''People eat bear.''
      A few kinds of bear, but Black bears are just more prevalent.

    • @Hartwig870
      @Hartwig870 5 років тому +3

      Brown bear consume way more meat, a lot of it being carrion than black bears. In coastal areas they'll also eat tons of dead fish.

    • @MikeM-pk6zq
      @MikeM-pk6zq 4 роки тому +1

      No you wouldn't. It's complete shite. And you're likely to become violently ill

    • @keithpayne9776
      @keithpayne9776 2 роки тому +4

      It comes down to what the bear has been eating prior to being hunted. A bear; be it Black, Brown, Grizzly etc, that has been eating a lot of fish and carrion is gonna taste awful. One that been eating more plant matter especially berries will taste better

  • @Amar-fu7eq
    @Amar-fu7eq 2 роки тому +1

    160 degrees Fahrenheit?

  • @Chertoff88
    @Chertoff88 Рік тому +1

    Helen Cho!!!!!!! Hi

  • @coloradoroninnomad1336
    @coloradoroninnomad1336 2 роки тому

    I don't know why but the way he say "fat" is awesome.

  • @creampuff9934
    @creampuff9934 3 роки тому +5

    But your still eating the worms right

    • @idaho4allguns836
      @idaho4allguns836 3 роки тому +4

      They aren't worms at that stage. They are cysts in a host. You eat the meat the cysts hatch in the stomach acids and become worms. The worms travel throughout the body and become cysts in the hosts muscles. Then repeat......

    • @Scottjr5561.
      @Scottjr5561. 10 місяців тому

      How does the stomach acid not destroy it.

  • @Arrowhex
    @Arrowhex 2 роки тому +2

    Poor steve got trich

  • @MartinLaforce
    @MartinLaforce Рік тому +2

    If I eat bear I'd want it burnt like bacon

  • @lrobinson3461
    @lrobinson3461 3 роки тому +1

    Is it true that the meat will be safe if you freeze it before cooking?

    • @Christopher.Mathew
      @Christopher.Mathew 3 роки тому +1

      No that is a myth parasites can survive when frozen it doesn't apply to bear meat.

  • @suggiethames9870
    @suggiethames9870 9 років тому +5

    I know bears eat even nastier stuff than coyotes. I have heard of bears eating dirty diapers out of garbage cans. Wouldn't that make them taste bad, or would it?

    • @tnelly4611
      @tnelly4611 5 років тому +3

      Suggie Thames 100% accurate every time someone shits at elk camp it’s gone the next morning and surrounded by bear tracks, nasty nasty creatures lol

    • @freesoul3371
      @freesoul3371 5 років тому +8

      Bears will eat anything, pigs will eat anything, goats will eat anything, chicken will eat anything even their own crap.

  • @shoedil812
    @shoedil812 4 місяці тому +1

    Buttropes.

  • @mencken8
    @mencken8 3 роки тому +5

    It amazes me that someone can shoot a bear and eat it, and not know about trichinosis.

  • @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES
    @HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES 10 років тому +3

    is this the same as salmonella?

    • @SteelChains
      @SteelChains 7 років тому +12

      I'm awful late, chances are you already know it by now. But still
      No. It's not like salmonella.
      Trichinosis is a species of ringworm that burrows in the muscles of it's host and causes a fucking ton of symptoms and ailments.

    • @MikeM-pk6zq
      @MikeM-pk6zq 4 роки тому +4

      No no it's way worse man.

  • @joshuadavis3428
    @joshuadavis3428 Рік тому +1

    Psychos

  • @MikeM-pk6zq
    @MikeM-pk6zq 4 роки тому +1

    Christ. How about you don't eat the fucking bear meat.