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The Messed Up Truth About The 1970s Music Industry
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Fourteen-year old groupies. Predatory managers. Theft of a rockstar corpse. The music industry of the 1970s was not for the faint of heart.
#MusicIndustry #1970s #RockAndRoll
Overdoses | 0:00
Sid and Nancy | 1:09
Faking It | 2:38
Dishonest Managers | 3:59
More bad management | 5:12
Murder? | 6:40
Body theft | 7:49
Racism | 8:52
Sexual assault | 9:47
Underage Groupies | 11:04
Pedophilia | 12:12
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😂 no one edits anymore
Thank you.
Thank you for your correction.
Hendrix didn't over dose on drugs, correct it. he choked on his own vomit from sleeping pills.
Let’s make that comment a T shirt
The truth is much darker than this.
What do you mean? Tell me more please!
You're damn right, especially what Tyler did to that young girl, it's obvious he tried to kill her
@@jonnybarnard8578- Tyler supposedly had his own child murdered by the dr right after delivery.
There were plenty of Rockers with questionable passings. Brian Jones was one of them.
It's still going on today, not just the music industry either.
If grown women want to spread their legs in order to get advancement, in any field really, that's the cost of doing business.
I image, any place where there are young kids, and tons of money, shady things are going on somewhere nearby.
Where there is business, there is evil.
@@SS-tm4ob Not all businesses. The corner store, across from my house, doesn't seem to be evil. I think it's when extremely large amounts of money, and easily manipulated people are part of that equation, we are much more likely to see greedy bastards taking advantage.
@darrick steele I only speak from my experiences & from others that warned me when I used to think certain businesses didn't have a bit greed to them, but as time went on, it proved me wrong. Evil can be interpreted in various different ways, whether big or small, for anybody who is facing them as obstacles.
I'm very surprised that this video also, didn't touch on the fact... That In November or 1997, Gary (Paul Gadd) Glitter. Had been arrested after a technician discovered child pornography images on the hard drive of his Laptop. After ''Gary Glitter'' had taken it to a computer retailer in Bristol to be repaired. Further images were soon discovered by Police during the searches of his (homes in London and Wedmore). And that from (March 2005 to May 2008). Glitter resided in ''Vũng Tàu, Vietnam''. Where he had rented a luxury seaside villa and applied for permanent Vietnamese residency. ''Gary Glitter'' was brought to the attention of Vietnamese authorities after Glitter was banned from a nightclub for allegedly (groping a teenage waitress). Eyewitnesses also reported seeing him take two young girls into his home. On November 12 2005... Glitter fled his home where a 15-year-old girl was found living in his flat. The girl was questioned by authorities. Police began searching for Glitter, and he was arrested on November 20, 2005 at (Tan Son Nhat International Airport in Ho Chi Minh City). While trying to board a flight to Bangkok. Six Vietnamese girls and women, aged from 11 to 23. Came forward claiming that Glitter had had sex with them.
Sid was the bassist not a front man an not a good bassist at that but a total punk
He was a POSER and a tragic junkie.
Relying on Grunge to get the facts straight is like relying on a crack-head to do your taxes.
@@TenFalconsMusic 🤣🤣🤣 facttsss
Spot on! Sid's music career faltered after The Sex Pistols. Sid's status as a punk icon is legendary.
He fronted briefly
A couple things that weren't covered: Elvis not only had a relationship with Priscilla Presley, she was living at Graceland with him while she attended high school in the States. Ted Nugent and Rick Springfield weren't listed among rock stars who had sexual relationships with underage girls. In fact Nugent had a teenage Hawaiian girl living with him, and he had gotten her parents to sign over her legal guardianship to him. Springfield was in a sexual relationship with Linda Blair in the mid-1970s before she reached the age of consent. Also, the Jackie Fox (Fuchs) story has a slightly better ending than one would think: in 2018 she was a contestant on Jeopardy and won multiple games.
Jerry Lee Lewis and his underage cousin. Jimmy paige and that 15 yo girl he kept at his place. There is a lot of depravity amongst RR stars.
Don't forget Steven Tyler and the young girl who's parents signed over guardianship is now suing him
Thank you, for the details. I kinda dug Rick,,sad to hear. So many grown well equipped women! And they go under age.
Humans haven't changed. The definition of "under age" in the USA apparently has. Jerry Lee Lewis LEGALLY married his 13 year old cousin with her family's approval .. because she was done with school. Historically the age of consent coincided with the age of marriage, and once someone was done with school, they couldn't just hang around the house. It just did not happen. They were either put to work or married off.
It is interesting seeing how cultural norms of the time look to modern puritans
What do you think of the dark history of the music industry?
Never heard of the "Badfingers" before but their story must be one of the saddest in the music history.
Holy crap. Two people in the same bad commits suicide because of an evil manager.
You are kidding me ??
@@avengernemesis7990 Why should I be kidding? What are you talking about?
@@avengernemesis7990 the group was Badfinger not Badfingers
It's badfinger, believe it or not one of the original members works at a place called the mall of st paul,, it's not a mall though, it's a store that sells all kinds of stuff,, think antique store with cool shit
It's in st paul Minnesota, I go there when I can , cool store , the fellas name is Joey
Forget his last name ,, he's a nice guy,
He will sign stuff for you, let you snap a picture,,
Badfinger was huge in the mid 1970's. Day After Day is one of their greatest hits.
Interesting video! I grew up in the 70’s… yes, it was a wild time.. I’m lucky I made it through!!✌🏼❤️
I did too but my parents were strict & I had a curfew. I sometimes had to walk all the way home from the city centre which was four miles though.
I hear you :)
2023 MARCH AMEN I hear ya Tbird!!! Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲
The list of criminal and shady managers is long and full of infamous characters.
Sad 😭 but unfortunately 😢😞 true I feel bad for those singers and bands got ripped off conned them went broke from all these bad managers stole all the money from them it's just wrong!!!
I am shocked at how easy it is to cheat artists without ever having to answer for it.
@@ieattofu68 it is rather disturbing how simple that becomes
From the beginning...
@@ieattofu68 That's unfettered capitalism for you. We live in a world where productivity has doubled since 1980 and wages have largely remained stagnant.
50 years later it's still just as corrupt
Even more so now.
It may have been messed up but us baby boomers were truly lucky to have experienced the 70s at the right age. We were all age perfect for what was out in the market.
#ItWasTheBestOfTimesandTheWurstOfTimes. @#Gewurstraminer.
Damn right
The markets have catered to the boomers cohort since childhood.
Hell yeah class of 76
I'm a mid-boomer. Yes, we were lucky. So lucky - too young for Viet Nam. Levi's. The '73 Led Zeppelin tour - the best, the Yes tour, the '75 Led Zep tour, the '75 Stones tour, getting a Les Paul (earned the money), discovering good Country Rock - Byrds, Burritos, New Riders. Discovering the importance of the Telecaster. A Pioneer car stereo. Then The Pistols, The Ramones, The Runaways (Thank-you Joan, for keeping the flame), Blondie, The Go-Go's. (I like girls, okay? Women now.)
The story of Badfinger is a very sad story.
It’s practically beyond belief.
@@nitedreamer23 Paul and The Beatles intentions were good but it looks as if it was some sort of a kiss of death.
Yess just tragic! Greedy manager
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@@youtube_chaplain PISS OFF!
To your list I would like to add Tommy Bolin (1975, age 25 from Herion overdose) guitarist with Deep Purple and the James Gang. Several of his albums are available on YT and definitely deserve a listen. Steve Stevens (Billy Idol) has said the album Private Eyes was inspiration for their Rebel Yell.
Yes. This is the sad truth of the music industry. However, what great music they have left us. It stands the rest of time, unlike the music of today.
I have heard the best musicians, often work in music shops, but lack the people skills to last in a band. Musicians just can't seem to get along to well.
People die in every industry or endeavor, it is not territory exclusive to music. The theft of cash by management was common though. Musicians began to pay attention to cash flow. At a contact signing party Lynyrd Skynyrd wrote a song to perform especially for the management "Workin' For MCA".
@@McDago100 Oh yes... A band can be more tumultuous than any marriage
I think it's cause music usually attract very creative, thus emotional, people, and unlike acting where everyone gets thier own trailer and time away, with a band you're close to each other 24/7, so.... there's gonna be a lot of issues...
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Jackie Fuchs' story kinda had a happy ending. She put herself through school and became an entertainment lawyer. Won four games on Jeopardy! and whose sister won a World Series of Poker bracelet.
About Graham Parsons , the two drunk men were his best friends and they were carrying out his funeral wishes.
They were proper old skool guys!
I also recall hearing it was a morphine and alcohol overdose. But these corny videos rarely get minor facts straight or dive into much beyond what they find on Wikipedia.
They made a movie about it with Johnny Knoxville called Grand Theft Parsons.
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Another story is how the Grateful Dead made Micky Hart's father their manager and he totally ripped them off for 3 years, when they found out,Hart left the group for several years, no one blamed him, but it must have been too uncomfortable till the wound healed over.
💸 "nothings gonna bring him back" 💸
I was thinking the same
That band Bad Finger's Stan Pauly their manager was a real piece of work, jeez kinda weird how some of the band members committed suicide and that Stan tried to cash in on an insurance policy on the singers death 💀🤔🧐🤨 allot of shady mofo's in the music business back then and I'm sure now
you would think at of 4 of them one would have hunted stan pauly down
FULL OF SCUM BAGS!
Surprised he wasn't beaten four shades of black and blue.
A friend of the family worked for one of the "Big Three" record companies for about 12 years from the mid 60's through the very late 70's. I can't remember which one it was. A&M, Warner, Capitol, EMI. He said back then, you had a way better chance of getting "your dream" than now, making a living at being a musician. You didn't have to go through the daunting process of creating every single aspect of your band and then hand it over on a silver platter to the record company like now. Because there was no internet or digital downloading of music, the consumer was forced to buy the physical products of the vinly record, cassette, or later, CD. CD's were selling for $15.99 a pop millions of times over if the music, fan base, marketing, art work, live performances, and merchandise were all creating a buzz. After recouping the cost of the recording/producer the band had 100% of touring, merchandise, and publishing before managers, and various other staff were to be paid. Now, the record company wants a huge percentage of ALL sources and permanently regardless of the band touring or if the band is even together. In fact, Guns N Roses had their entire contract renegotiated in what most agree was late 1990 early 1991 and the only reason why they were able to get away with it was because the demand and craze for GNR would not stop escalating after the AFD tour ended in December 1988. David Geffen had to have known this and decided to give them a new contract probably very close to whatever they were asking for.
“A way better chance” meaning 1 in a hundred million and only if you were willing to submit yourself to degradation, humiliation, enslavement, possibly assault and even death. Today you can’t even break even, but at least you own your own music.
nah, i would say its way better today, there are so many bands that were broke back then, even the most famous ones. today you can easily make your dream and live off of it comfortably. anyone can do it, 96% of people who made it in there dreams would not have made it in the 70's.
@@govys85 “Easily”.
Sigh. No.
@@e32b61 yes, easily, today there is more people doing art/music or whatever there dream is then ever. Look at me, I’m making music and have a band, im also a photographer who has work in museums in the states and South Korea, I’ve made it and there are millions of us who are doing the same.
The equipment that you need for your dream is cheaper then ever, you don’t need a manager anymore cause of the internet, you have platforms to put anything you want, you don’t need to be signed to a label to put out music, you don’t need to go to casting calls to be an actor, you can act on any independent film maker movie that has a youtube channel.
Becoming famous has nothing to do with achieving your dreams, that is a very wrong and shallow way of looking at doing anything in life. And if you think that is what “achieving” your dream then of course you will never make it. Being famous doesn’t even exist. It’s just a popularity contest. Doesn’t even have to do with talent. The most talented and successful people are not famous.
So yes, it’s easier today then it has ever been to achieve your dream
There were more record companies then such as Island, Decca & Charisma & they weren't owned by multi media parent companies like they are now. Then with the punk movement came even more such as Factory & Stiff.
What's missing is the way Warner Bros Records ripped off artists . One I saw in a documentary about what happened at Apple Records during the end of The Beatles . Badfinger was wanting to make another record because they needed the money . Apple couldn't do anything without the consent of the band , so Badfinger went to Warner Bros where they got a million dollar contract . When they showed the contract to people at Apple Records , they were told they got screwed . The million dollars was to pay for everything : recording cost , advertising and touring costs . It was worse for Van Halen . They got alotta money BUT it was a high interest "loan" and then they had to pay a lot of money for recording ,which was a ripoff because their recording time was FAST . In top of that , they had to make a new album EVERY YEAR . This explains why their Dave era albums were just over a half hour long , almost an EP length . In the " A Different Kind of Truth " promotion videos the Halen Bros made with Dave , they talked about it and their first royalty checks . Their first royalty checks were about 80 dollars each . This is why the Halen Bros were still living in their little old Pasadena home for about 3 years/albums .
Very true and sad. I remember reading an old interview with Alex Van Halen many years ago where he said "We went out on tour for the first album for nearly an entire year, and when we got back we were told we owed Warner's a million dollars. I guess you could say it was a bad deal." It shouldn't surprise anybody to hear that organized crime basically created the music business.
Perhaps the girls for TLC should have looked at this video long, before they became a girl band
Also, I love and respect Ted Templeman, VH's original producer, but in his bio (written by the same guy who wrote Van Halen Rising) he actually brushed off how upset the band has been about being screwed over by Warner that first year. He said "if they remembered how hungry they were as artists then they would've put it back in perspective of getting their name out there". That's seriously crappy. And honestly a lot of bands, but I feel like VH in particular has been lambasted as greedy for being irritated by how they got treated by Warner Bros, I think it's perfectly understandable regardless of future success. They were all kids barely out of highschool, Alex and Eddie from poor working class immigrant family, they had wanted to buy thier parents a new house from that first year, I'd be super pissed for years too
Also, idk how much stock you put in Noel Monk, but according to him, Berle also filmed them having sex with different girls on tour while they (The guys but probably the girls too) were coked up and out of it, then did "private" showings to female office workers.
Which...I dunno how true that is, since I don't recall anyone in the band talking about it....but with how legal savy Alex has become if it is, I suspect he's destroyed or procured those tapes. But either way, that sort of exploitation was on both sides. The band who were all barely out of adolescence and the women forced to watch it.
Dang, makes me think of Lynyrd Skynyrd and MCA! When their plane went down all that survived were surprised to find out they had no health insurance!
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OMG The Badfinger story is absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating. There's a special place in hell for greedy shysters like Polly. How awful for them. And to have caused 2 people to commit suicide, it's especially despicable.
When Ray Charles was told about what the intoxicated Elvis Costello had said his reply was "sometimes drunk talk is just drunk talk"
Well, at least the last guy was held accountable.
As a former songwriter who has wanted nothing to do with the music industry or its people for the last several decades, I learned from personal experience during the1970s and 1980s, and even the early 90s, that the music industry of those times had no interest in being fair to me, no interest in doing the right things by, for or to me, or treating me right in any way, whatsoever. I just got screwed, screwed, screwed -- not in any sexual way, but my right to fair treatment was continually being violated, in all areas, across the board. I finally gave up. Too bad for THEM! They lost a truly creative writer, a simple, soulful folk singer and a people's poetess. I have the last laugh. I have self published my own original works, and have thereby maintained FULL CREATIVE CONTROL! I haven't made much money through those endeavors, but I have DEFINITELY retained my self-respect. Nobody dictates my art to me -- not now, not EVER!
Do you have any music that we can listen to? I was going to send you an email but it doesn’t seem to be up anymore.
The industry now is even worse than then
In what way in particular?
Not even close!
Really appreciate the phone number helplines listed at the end of this video for anyone of sexual abuse or addiction trauma
these people are frauds. Oh what would we do without the Government and their hotlines???
@@phoenixhenson3689 I guess we would do whatever you suggest then..
Backround music really brought me back to the 70's.. nailed it!
Badfinger was the saddest story
I'm 42, follow music closely and was a huge Doors fan in my 20's but this is the first I've ever heard "Morrison" and "heroin" in the same sentence. When you're a lifelong drunk and gain that much weight that fast, heart failure isn't far fetched at all. Aside from a few stories of wild nights with Morrison on acid, alcohol was definitely his drug of choice. I don't even think he smoked weed.
Agree.
Pam was a junkie
and it is hypothesized that
Jim snorted some horse
thinking it was coke.
We'll never know.
The heroin story has been out there since the 1970s. I'm 55. I remember that being a theory in the early 1980s. Jim was 27. A heart attack is unlikely. But we'll never know for sure. They never did an autopsy.
I have seen a few different music documentaries about The Doors that mentioned that Jim Morrison was a heroin user!
"Jim was a junkie" was among graffiti on his grave 🧐. This is in the book No One Here Gets Out Alive.
@@Friend2AllCats Yep. I read that book half a dozen times.
It is disgusting seeing the truth about the "entertainment industry". It seems the music industries, movie industries and comedy all are plagued by addiction, and sexual deviancy. I don't care what happens between consenting adults, but when consent is not there, or someone is underage, it is sick.
Don’t forget the religion industry.
@@steveb796 The two meet on 4810 Sunset Blvd. It's called the Church of Scientology. Where there is narcissism and power, there is corruption and deviancy that follows. If you have seen the movie " The Adventures of Ford Fairlane", it really puts the whole entertainment industry, and Los Angeles culture in a nutshell.
@@jasonl1942 I did not pay Russian hookers to pee on me. Tfg.
@@jasonl1942 I have never had sexual relations with any girl- Jason L.
@@steveb796 don't worry, your sister counts.
Elvis Costello got his ass kicked at night. There is no doubt, and there were witnesses.
Elvis Costello sucks.. like the revenge of the nerds band... LoL!!😂🙌
Kept thinking Steven Tyler was about to pop up. Can't imagine the Nuge or.Kiss were checking IDs, I'd bet they made sure not to leave a paper trail.
The 70s is pretty much the same as the 2020s except there were no cellphones or social media or instant media back then so everything stayed a rumour until someone wrote a book.
Hendrix was murdered, period.
I like my share of conspiracy theories for sure, but who dafuq would have had any incentive to kill Jimi Guitar Hendrix?
Yeah
@@manfredschmalbach9023 A juicy life insurance policy, I've heard
It was a lot better than the noise pollution shit they got now days at least which most of it can't be classified as music even
It seems all the managers back then did the dirty in all these bands
It was like taking candy away from a baby. These bands had no business or financial sense. They gave their unquestionable loyalty to their managers and those seedy criminals took the talented to the cleaners.
@@KimberlyLetsGo 💯💯💯
Look up Don Arden. Managed Black Sabbath and was Sharon Osbourne's father. He easily could have been in this.
@@christophermerlot3366 yes I heard that years ago
@@christophermerlot3366 Don Arden was. He acted like a gangster.
The 70s music was great and so was the 70s .alot of great musicians died at the age of 27.rest in peace to them amen godbless them. They may be gone but not forgotten. ☯️☮️✌🌷🌹
The list goes on and on,CCR,Billy Joel,if it's not the label you have managers screwing the artists.Just thinking of all the great music we've missed because of these things and all the music we will miss because of artists are finding out the business is crooked.
I know Badfinger had a whole lot more hits to offer
It's pretty much everyone taking their piece of the pie before the artists get a chance.
I think it’s probably most groups and artists that have fallen victim! The Beatles, the Who , Bruce Springsteen
Tony De Fries screwed over David Bowie meaning that Mick Ronson never got what he deserved
1:14 I thought Johnny Rotten was the front man??
You thought right
It was supposedly the drug dealer killed Nancy all the while that Sid was passed out. The lead guitarist for The New York Dolls had a similar fate where he got paid up front for recording then got robbed and murdered. However, Johnny Thunders had a the final stages of some kind of cancer. I believe it was In New Orleans where he died. All of these punks would carry their money out in the open and perhaps, to by illegal substances for later...look up what happened to Henry Rollins when his best friend was murdered thinking there was money 💰 to still.
Grunge's next video will probably be: "Africa... The largest country in South America."
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Rotten talked about Saville and the Pistols were "vanished" from media.
Yes! He told the BBC he knew "all sorts of sordid things..." There's a video on UA-cam of him saying it. Then they 'black-balled' him.
Very intelligent and articulate man.
Yeah Jimmy Saville and Gary Glitter were 2 of the sickest pervs I've heard about for a long time. They were vile!🤮
Michael Martin was the "unnamed friend" who helped Phil Kaufman steal GP's body. Having met Phil, he was a true American original.
i'm sure the many stories of people being messed up by the industry and I doubt if much has changed
you know what....this felt real "preachy " or " judgey " in some way.
Modern 'Murica.
@@smellygoster2657 true. These days if a 16 year old girl is with a 19 year old guy they scream "pedophile".
Pathetic.
Cher was fine back then..
Yeah no plastic included.
Look at her dress in Chastity pic.
The list of crooked managers is much longer & don’t forget the sea of one-sided label contracts basically openly stealing artists work.
Conversely some bands were notorious for trashing entire hotel floors & having promoters &/or labels pay for it.
How much of the wild behaviour & drug use was encouraged by managers as a means of distracting the artists from the hands in their pockets we can’t be sure.
That all said, let’s be fair & recall that the vast majority of 70’s Rock band members did *not* die of drug overdoses, have criminal managers, date little girls or even trash hotels.
@greggary7217
And it's still going on. The "Record Industry" is digging itself into a chasm though. These satanic assholes have killed just about all the true innovators we had: Prince, Michael Jackson, B.B. King, etc., and bogged the artists that still remain in endless litigation over the exploitive contracts they are under with pennies on the dollar royalty percentages. Who is supposed to keep music afloat? ....... Cardi B., Doja Cat?
Right, and not limited to the 1970s.
Any expense a band incurred was taken out of their end and nobody else's. Limos, parties, hotel damage all paid for from royalties and the groups share of sales etc.
@@cravinbob And whether they were told that depended on who felt like telling them.
Van Halen has been regarded as being naive in the early days because they had no idea the money they were making thier label was more of a "loan" so at the end of thier first tour they're royalties we're $80 bucks each, and they owed a million to Warner Bros. And yet how were they supposed to know this if LITERALLY NO ONE TOLD THEM no one bothered to explain all the damage would be out of their own pocket.
And not just that. Their manager came out on the road once and bought the whole band, crew, roadies, an expensive dinner for a celebration and then stuck them with the bill of it after he flew back to the states.
Shady managers indeed.
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Back when music was real . No autotune .
True. There was still a lot of terrible music about though.
@@DuckAlertBeats Even the terrible music then was better than most of the chart music now. I remember some of them sounding rather flat when they sang on TOTP but it was better than autotune. It went downhill with the download charts taking over from the buying in person record charts & the end of TOTP.
I think you missed the point of the video buddy
🤦🏾Here we go again...
@@LaPetite510 Well it was more organic and original. The good music after 1990 was mostly down to good production using advanced technology, cover songs or throwbacks to early styles. Even Franz Ferdinand said they were reviving 80's Scottish indie rock such as the Gang of Four but with a more modern twist. When you listen to Kasabian it's very much 90's Britpop meets Hawkwind and the Britpop genre was a fusion of the British Invasion genre & 70's punk.
my ex bf was the tour accountant for a famous rock band. I would meet him for some tour dates and the things I saw were shocking (and I was no angel myself). Everything mentioned here went on, and I don't know people did this year after year and got away with it. I know police,judges, and hotel security were paid off and stories were squashed in the press. that was the way it was back then...
Gary Glitter was sentenced 16yrs in prison in 2015. I just heard last week he was let out of prison on Feb 3, 2023. It's good to know the US justice system isn't the only one lets rapist go free halfway through their sentence. (sarcasm)
He was never accused of rape.
@@michelleplombe7019 In the news article I read, it said, "found guilty in 2015 of sexually abusing three young girls in the 1970s". Rape or sexual abuse, thats semantics in my opinion.
@@armelind Rape no longer means anything without further information .. it now includes consensual affairs by an 18 year old with a 16 or 15 year old, it now includes consensual groping between two willing but drinking adults IF one of them changes their mind the next day. It is like 'racist' .. the definition used to be clear and it did not take much to make a judgement, but as Amber Heard taught us .. things are no longer always as they first seem.
YEAH BUT THEY SURE MADE KICK ASS MUSIC!!!
You can just drop the "1970s" in your title. This is about the music industry overall, period. Read a lot about the grunge era, and the crap they had to go through and put up with about curled my hair. EVERYTHING comes out of the pocket of the artist, absolutely everything. And we think they make gazillions of dollars and live a glamorous life. They don't. Most times they are broke, and are forced to keep working to keep their head above water. The entertainment industry as a whole could care less about its artists, no matter what the genre. But all they care about is keeping the dollars rolling in. Evil evil _demonic_ stuff.
Sid Vicious was the bassist, not the frontman of the Sex Pistols
Vicious was not the bassist on the album and could barely play the instrument.
So...pretty much what goes on today.....ppl with money are sick. They think, I'll do what want and buy my way out of trouble...the average person goes to prison for life. Seems fair enough to me 🤔
This comment should have got more than one thumbs up
"Ask your government for help!"
Right. I'll help myself, thank you.
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The music "industry" has been predatory since the days of the earliest bluesmen. As the money in the entertainment venues swelled all sorts of unsavory opportunists jumped in the game including the mob as well as random POS's.
Needless to say young idealistic kids who wanted to make it big or become stars were ripe to be taken advantage of including the so called tough bands (all image).
Yep. I'm 64 and remember this like yesterday
I do miss James Douglas Morrison
Best manager was Zeppelin’s Peter Grant.
It's the same messed up thing about almost every decade of music "producers".
Joan Jett of the Runaways actually covered one of Gary Glitter's songs "Do You Want to Touch".............Small world
Sid barely played bass in the Pistols…get your facts straight.
The idiots at Grunge know less about music than the Kardashians do about the discount bin at Wal-Mart.
And yet the most iconic and remembered of all. Funny how that works.
There was an article on Jim Morrison’s death in Esquire mag.very soon afterwards. There were sketches throughout the pages starting with the front door of the building, then up the stairs, finally in the bathroom with his arm hanging out the side of the tub ( I think- as I remember it). I’m open to verification.
If someone was stealing all of my money, I don't care what kind of fine print he put in a contract. I wouldn't commit suicide. He would be gone not me.
The thing about the seventies is that you actually had to really work on touring and going through distributors for your records to have to sell and there were a few groups that were very innovative regarding their musicianship. One of the things is now they don't seem to quite tour quite as much like 260 days out of the year and they don't necessarily have to worry about producing stuff for distribution you just have to press a button on views or likes so it doesn't seem as difficult. And for some reason it seems as though the musicianship has somewhat fallen away and there's not as much innovative storytelling and songs. Not as much as the seventies. And there was underground music or music less heard of better symphony music and better music regarding movie music it seems. Artist and musicians today they're more about choreography and dance moves which is actually quite difficult although a lot of people that are music majors and know many different instruments are typically not in the states any longer many of them are in Europe or Asia. Some music is just as good as it was in the 70s it's likeable and catchy although you don't have to worry about record distribution because you only have to press likes or subscribe to an app on your typical free phone and for how much button pressing you do you become wealthy and you don't actually have to tour 260 days out of the year and there's not big arenas typically a concert ticket for 2 to 3 hour concert will cost you $500 way back then when a group had to put on maybe a hundred shows tickets for sometimes 20 to $100 and they had big crowds and now there's so much worry about security and mass shootings and terrorism that it's not exactly a popular thing to do.
Oh yeah, it's the flip side to the internet and technology. These days anyone with a passion for music can record themselves on their phones, and upload it to the internet and see if anyone bites. They can make all sorts of sounds they need to on software and honestly; one hand it's good. It's taken a barrier down for people who just want to put their stuff out there.
But then you have the flip side, which is everything you said. It's so easy these days that there's a innovation that's fallen off and a musicianship that just isn't like how it was before.
Also I'm pretty young, so I have a whole lot of new artists I like and I listen to lesser known ones, so I don't want to dismiss everyone. There is still talent on the scene and some up and comments get buried and passed over, but after a point everyone just sounds the same too.
There are sordid ways of thinking out there but, the 70's was the best, full stop!
As crazy as that time was, you had a better of making it as a musician then than now.
There was actually a movie made about the theft of Graham Parsons corpse called Grand Theft Parsons with Johnny Knoxville as Lloyd Kaufman.
I've never understood the appeal of Elvis Costello
Too bad ,they are a great band.....your loss.
@@marvymarier8988 give me sabbath,zeppelin,aerosmith,rush pink floyd and bands like that anyday over that stuff anyday
Consider yourself lucky 😎
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@@youtube_chaplain wow all this because I don't care for elvis Costello what are you gonna do to a real batty?
Hendrix did not die of an overdose
Rock band managers in the 70s make RKelly look like a choir boy
Interesting to see men reviled now for what was mostly accepted by society back then. I was there as a teenager and remember it well.
There was a biographical movie of Sonny and Cher. In it, Cher would take other men up to her room to screw and Sonny put up with it. Chrissie Hynde recounted how she almost lost her cherry to Rod Stewart. Back when he was a member of Little Faces, after one show, her sister and friends were selected to go backstage where they would divvy up the girls. She was the one left over and so would have gone to Rod. But, she didn't know what was going on and demanded to go home. She was 11 at the time. You know what's indefensible? These girls who go unaccompanied to concerts and expect nothing to happen. Oh, and speaking of underage affairs, don't forget Jerry Lee Lewis who eventually married his 13-year-old cousin.
The Little Faces huh? 😅 Okay.
I think you meant The Faces. The SMALL Faces became The Faces when Steve Marriott left the group to form Humble Pie with Peter Frampton. Enter Ron Wood and Rod Stewart, both most recently (at the time) of The Jeff Beck Group, and the remaining members of The Small Faces regrouped as The Faces. Check your facts before posting misinformation.
@@johnnyo8903 So you understood what I was saying. Good boy! Now go fetch a stick!!
Of course I understood because I'm not a mote who doesn't know his Rock history.
And thank you so much for the generous invitation but I'm afraid I am far too busy digging up your dead greasy grandma so you can go mung with her.
@@johnnyo8903 Did I touch a nerve, pumpkin?
Rod Stewart joined the Faces in late 1969. Chrissie Hynde would've been 18 years-old at the time, not 11.
Badfinger's story is so tragic. The music industry is infected with narcissistic sociopaths who behave like human remora. These people eventually consume what feeds them and either move on to other unsuspecting talent, or end up dying in ignominy. Satan rules the entertainment industry.
Gary Glitter and the host of Tops of the Pops make a criminal pair.
Yeah supposedly they knew all about it and did nothing. Same with Saville. Seems lots of folks knew about him too and kept mum about it.
Great days,the best ever.
At 7:23, i read an interview with one of the EMTs that went to assist hendrix the night he passed. he said when they got there that hendrix was lying on the bed covered in wine and vomit. he said there was no way anyone could drink that much wine and that it had to be shoved down his throat.
It makes you wonder how so many people still love these artists and bands after knowing what they did.
The owner of Roulette Records, Morris Levy, was a Mafia connected scoundrel, who ripped off artists left and right. Read Tommy James' autobiography, "Me, Music and the Mob" to find out how awful her was.
I never went to the bathroom in the 70s, just to be on the safe side
you must have shit everywhere else then
First time I've ever heard that quote from Jimi's DEAD mgr. Jeffries, but in the autopsy details it said something like wine in the lungs? It would be in the stomach or intestinal tract. 2 Uriah Heep members died from excessive tour/album, tour/album mania, destruction. The best of times the worst of times.
If they found wine in his lungs it would only add weight to the manager's story. If Jimi were unconscious when it was poured down his throat, it's more likely to go down the airway, especially if they had tipped his head back.
some good shit back then
i'm glad badfinger is getting attention
Has not changed. Except for the music being junk.
Ain't that the truth, though!!
More youth need our help. So many of these pervs are destroying the lives of these kids and most never see justice. Then these kids show other kids and they think this is normal. It's not. And worse is that no one actually got help past the 90s for this. It's been a normal part of society since the dawn of humanity.
Teen girls have always thrown themselves at their favourite pop stars, why 🤷
No one really thought anything about underage relationships back then, it's just the way it was.
still wrong
And that's why so much horrible stuff happened! I don't believe that people didn't realize sleeping with thirteen and fourteen year-olds was wrong, they just didn't care!
The band KISS definitely agrees with you (Christine Sixteen)
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I was in Jr High in the late 70s and there were plenty of girls sleeping with the football coaches and several of the male teachers including the band director. I knew several of the girls personally. The students gossiped about it, it wasn't a secret. The same thing was going on at the High school as well.
Do they still play Gary Glitter's music at hockey games?
Should they?
I was at the peak of my career as a musician in touring regional bands in the 70s and early 80s and it was a wild ride. Fortunately, I had the smarts to avoid the drug scene which I was constantly surrounded by. My one weakness was the groupies and there was certainly no shortage of them, every night, every week and in every city we appeared. Above it all, I loved playing every night and music still flows through my veins to this day.
Careful I wouldn't be too transparent...the Government could be watching and want to bring you in for questioning about the groupies
@@phoenixhenson3689 Ha ha...I was a performing musician not a "predatory manager". Even the Beatles got screwed over by the likes of Allen Klein. And don't get me started on the "gubment"...talk about predators.
@@sess122 I know that
Holy Shit! I grew up with Joe Molland Jr. His dad was the rhythm guitarist and one of the surviving members of "Bad Finger." We had a cover band back in the day.
Vicious (Sid), was never a Sex Pistols frontman. That would be John Lydon.
Sid was not Sex Pistol's frontman; he was the bassist who really couldn't play bass but stayed with the band because of his good looks.
More like "interesting" looks.
It was infinity better than today
My favorite music artists of the 70s
The Carpenters
David Cassidy
Olivia Newton-John
Fleetwood Mac
The Rolling Stones
Debby Boone
Emmy Lou Harris
The Osmonds
The DeFrancos
Queen
Linda Rondstat
Blondie
The Bay City Rollers
Helen Reddy
Carole King
Carly Simon
Joni Mitchell
The Bee Gees
Do u think u missed anyone? Lol
Is there a Grunge documentary on “The Messed Truth About the 1960s Music Industry”?
There should be
Hearing stories from Ed, Dave and Al of Van Halen was just ridiculous, the more albums they sold the more they went into debt with Warner Brothers... Think thats why the Brown M&M thing was put in later contracts lol .. Never sign another bad contract again!!
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RIP Lisa Marie.
I can't believe I'm 4 years older than elvis ever was.
Sid never played on a Sex Pistols album
It's an obscure track, but Grand Funk had a song, She Got To Move Me, about a 14-year old groupie. Quite explicit for 1972.
This video sure took a dark turn....
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