Great guide. Just a point of thought for those who love shadow but also enjoy discipline - the full mooncloth variation or the 2/3 split might offer a bit more flexibility with fewer substitutions if time constraints are something to consider and you don't have the ability to farm for both! Thanks!
Excellent guide as always man. I highly appreciate the fact that you explained the different benefits of Satin vs Mooncloth so well. That's something I always struggled with myself and also will struggle in WOTLK. Keep up the good work. See you in your stream. Greetings Ov
Darkmoon Card: Berserker! does not proc on DoT ticks (only direct damage spells) and has been replaced with Darkmoon Card: Death for my BiS list! Amazing trinket under 300 gold, Dark Moon Faire is still active! Flow of Knowledge is also great from Wintergrasp! I will be getting Darkmoon Card: Illusion to compliment my Human Priest!
Arena Comps and Gearing: Shadow Priest/Rogue - Mooncloth or 2/3 Shadow Priest/Frost Mage - Mooncloth or 2/3 Shadow Priest/Fire Mage - Satin Shadow Priest/Destro Lock/Ele Shaman - Satin Shadow Priest/Aff Lock - Mooncloth or 2/3 Shadow Priest/Boomkin - Mooncloth or 2/3 Shadow Priest/Feral - Mooncloth or 2/3 Of course you can adjust gearing to your personal preference and playstyle as always!
@ExpiryTv i played over 10 years TBC (private servers and retail) Shadowpriest but never played Wotlk. Now im lvling finally a shadow and im not sure whats more important. crit or spirit? I know in tbc you only needed resilence, spelldmg and enough HP to dont die that fast. I cant remember any Sp used Spirit or Crit in TBC. Seems like in LK Crit is important because i saw how mindflay i.e can proc pretty nice so i guess i should take an eye on crit now! Esp about Spirit im not sure if i need it at SP or not? Of course regarding Arena
That priest "Mustardlordx" you use as an example for a high rated warmane priest actually hasn't played a single game of that team. It was piloted by a war/pal, big surprise.
Hey man, AWESOME guide, thank you very much! Sorry about this question no related to Spriest, but in your opinion what are the best 2s double dps comp with ROGUE, other than Spriest/Rogue? Also, whats your opinion about Belf Spriest?
@@ExpiryTV so, we are playing Shadow/Rogue… man, the comp os wild, got so many wins On the opener! But, On the other hand, we are getting destroyed by gangbang melee comps and some War or DK + healer…. If they go me (Priest) i melt… if they go rogue, he melts… trying tô figure out! We are currently 1200 rating with like 40/60% wr with 80 arenas played! Any tips? Edit; we tryied some disc/rogue but it wars even worse, no Way we could trade with any plate and i just cant survive as much as a Hpally…
If I were to go full crit for pvp and arenas as a shadow priest which race would compliment me the most? Is it also possible to simply go for a resilience/crit build as a shadow priest and still be able to push top tier ratings in 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 arenas and competitive BGs? Thank you for the help your guide was very informative.
Troll or Draeni probably! I believe it is possible and there are examples of that being done, just keep in mind the meta/tradeoffs of your decision. If you don't like the build, you can always go the other one next season! Thanks!
@@ExpiryTV Why troll and Draeni would be the ideal choice for this type of build? And, could one achieve R1 using a crit/resilience build in 2s and 3s arena? Sorry, if my questions are repeating I am really new to all of the WOTLK meta games. I am assuming all of the data you are referring to would be pvpers on Warmane that has had success with this specific type of build? Thank you for responding to me! :)
Im playing a full crit Shadow on Warmane only needing to exchange Mooncloth Hands into the Satin ones. Also, just for the fun of it, I use 2x PVE Head and Shoulder for the additional 5% critchance on our dots and lets say - having around 44% is simply amazing (whilst also having over 17% haste due to BIS Mainhand, Rings and PVE Set items in addition to the Scale for haste and Phylactery for Crit. When all items proc I have over 5500 Spellpower while still having 1131 Resilience :D ) Mana is only an issue in some 2s games against really tanky comps which doesnt happen that often as games often end very quickly (playing FMage Shadow at around 1900 mmr )
@@ExpiryTV I want to roll undead but it seems for this specific build set I will need to choose another race I thought of night elf and human simply because having an extra trinket for resilience would be beneficial in a crit/resilience build for 2s and 3s arena.
Hi! :) I wanna play SH/UHDK in 2s and 3s aswell coz my real life friend plays DK... Any thoughts about it? Like stat priorities, which races should we go (we are both humans right now), trinkets etc. Do you think it could be a decent comp in early seasons or its just unplayable now...?! I've played it before, usually Im their main target coz I dont have that many def cds like a DK have, especially vs melees and there are a lot of warrs, dks etc... So its quite hard to play that comp (atleast for me :D) but I like challenges. So yeah, its pretty hard to do nice damage while surviving and ofc sometimes I have to peel my partner (he also helps me out with grips and slows etc), and I go oom very fast as well, so its very easy to die. Sorry for these quite complex questions but its almost impossible to find a nice guide or something about this comp, coz almost nobody plays it coz not that popular but it can be fun to play for sure. If you have any tips & tricks, I would appriciate. =) Btw great video mate, I like it, subbed. :)
IMO best thing to do for an off-meta comp is just work on your overall arena skills/awareness and synergy with your partner. Play as many games as possible and try to learn/improve! You may carve out a nice rating with your comp! Keep in mind SP will get stronger with additional resil/haste/spell power.
@@ExpiryTV We just started 2s and actually its not that bad as i thought... Ofc there are some hardcounters but I use shackle glyph coz many dks and also I play with improved mana burn and its quite good imo... I dont wanna say im burning like a crazy but sometimes when we dont have offensive cds i can burn 1-2 while surviving and ppl ofc have quite low manabase early seasons so they go oom actually faster than me a lot of times. Yeah ik improved mana burn seems like a bad idea but its working for me atleast for now. We just trying to play lame while waiting for offensinve cds vs healer/dps (almost only hpal warr or dk) comps and oom the healer. Sometimes i can use dispersion just to get mana back... and then we when we get offensive cds back, we try to push and force as many def cds as we can... Im not high geared, only savage set 4/5 (the spirit one + wg helm) and hateful offparts. I dont have proff at all, if I can get BS + engi/jc and some better gear, maybe we can reach nice rating if we practice a lot. :D Didnt try 3s yet but im excited about it. Ofc we didnt meet mirror so far yet... :D I also think about using BM trinket, so i would be more tanky i guess, one more def cd. Thanks for the motivation =)
Great guide. Just a point of thought for those who love shadow but also enjoy discipline - the full mooncloth variation or the 2/3 split might offer a bit more flexibility with fewer substitutions if time constraints are something to consider and you don't have the ability to farm for both! Thanks!
Agreed!
Excellent guide as always man. I highly appreciate the fact that you explained the different benefits of Satin vs Mooncloth so well. That's something I always struggled with myself and also will struggle in WOTLK. Keep up the good work. See you in your stream. Greetings Ov
Thanks for the positive feedback and checking out the stream! Danke!
Thanks for going through it so thoroughly! May the pvp be with you :) damage
LEGEND! Thank you bro, same to you!
Appreciate your vids as always. Looking forward to those SPR streams in wrath!
Thank you!
Darkmoon Card: Berserker! does not proc on DoT ticks (only direct damage spells) and has been replaced with Darkmoon Card: Death for my BiS list! Amazing trinket under 300 gold, Dark Moon Faire is still active! Flow of Knowledge is also great from Wintergrasp! I will be getting Darkmoon Card: Illusion to compliment my Human Priest!
Amazing video liked and subscribed . Covered everything im amazed
Thank you mate!
Arena Comps and Gearing:
Shadow Priest/Rogue - Mooncloth or 2/3
Shadow Priest/Frost Mage - Mooncloth or 2/3
Shadow Priest/Fire Mage - Satin
Shadow Priest/Destro Lock/Ele Shaman - Satin
Shadow Priest/Aff Lock - Mooncloth or 2/3
Shadow Priest/Boomkin - Mooncloth or 2/3
Shadow Priest/Feral - Mooncloth or 2/3
Of course you can adjust gearing to your personal preference and playstyle as always!
This was a fantastic guide mate, well done!
Thank you!
Hey since i cant get KT weap, and i play mooncloth would u recommand going mp5 deadly weap or crit one ?
Mp5 if playing Mooncloth, there are some solid weapons from EoE 10 as well!
Just starting to build my pvp set, is there a specific order of which pieces to get first? Main pieces before off pieces? Thanks!
Do VoA10/25 every reset because you can RNG Gloves/Chest/Legs, other than that it depends on biggest upgrades!
Awesome video! Subbed
@ExpiryTv i played over 10 years TBC (private servers and retail) Shadowpriest but never played Wotlk. Now im lvling finally a shadow and im not sure whats more important. crit or spirit? I know in tbc you only needed resilence, spelldmg and enough HP to dont die that fast. I cant remember any Sp used Spirit or Crit in TBC.
Seems like in LK Crit is important because i saw how mindflay i.e can proc pretty nice so i guess i should take an eye on crit now! Esp about Spirit im not sure if i need it at SP or not?
Of course regarding Arena
Crit and Spirit are about the same in Arena, choose based on preference!
About to try arena for the first time in season 5. Think I will go with a mix of satin/mooncloth and pivot based on how it goes. Thanks for the guide!
Can't go wrong with more Resil in S5 which has the lowest Resil values! GLHF and thank you!
honestly in s5 it might be the best option since everyone is going ZUG ZUG on shadow priests.
Where is a talent list for Satin and 3/2 combo
eightyupgrades.com/set/mmbqpnFSZUyoZwYRtPRHcr -- feel free to adapt.
@@ExpiryTV not working :(
@@SkriNNNa Fixed, I am so sorry!
I am human, how is Jetze`s bell as my 2nd trinket slot? Struggling with mana quite a lot.
Should be pretty strong if you can afford it!
Gear planner links not working
eightyupgrades.com/set/bZXKadSvaWQxRCnSdHUgK5
eightyupgrades.com/set/eo6VFGzXTSVwXW2yH8HNrE
how much resil did both sets aim for? seen you have pve items with no resil
900-1k
That priest "Mustardlordx" you use as an example for a high rated warmane priest actually hasn't played a single game of that team. It was piloted by a war/pal, big surprise.
:(
Are there any specs capitalising on Satin/Crit playstyle that incorporate Shadow Power talent?
Yes! Expiry EightyUpgradesLink includes a spec that utilizes Shadow Power (you can move talents around to fit your preference).
@@ExpiryTV Cheers, bro!
Hey man, AWESOME guide, thank you very much! Sorry about this question no related to Spriest, but in your opinion what are the best 2s double dps comp with ROGUE, other than Spriest/Rogue? Also, whats your opinion about Belf Spriest?
Thank you! Rogue pairs well with Mage, Feral Druid, Disc Priest, Ret Pal, and Ehn Shaman! Belfs are awesome!
@@ExpiryTV so, we are playing Shadow/Rogue… man, the comp os wild, got so many wins On the opener! But, On the other hand, we are getting destroyed by gangbang melee comps and some War or DK + healer…. If they go me (Priest) i melt… if they go rogue, he melts… trying tô figure out! We are currently 1200 rating with like 40/60% wr with 80 arenas played! Any tips?
Edit; we tryied some disc/rogue but it wars even worse, no Way we could trade with any plate and i just cant survive as much as a Hpally…
If I were to go full crit for pvp and arenas as a shadow priest which race would compliment me the most? Is it also possible to simply go for a resilience/crit build as a shadow priest and still be able to push top tier ratings in 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3 arenas and competitive BGs? Thank you for the help your guide was very informative.
Troll or Draeni probably! I believe it is possible and there are examples of that being done, just keep in mind the meta/tradeoffs of your decision. If you don't like the build, you can always go the other one next season! Thanks!
@@ExpiryTV Why troll and Draeni would be the ideal choice for this type of build? And, could one achieve R1 using a crit/resilience build in 2s and 3s arena? Sorry, if my questions are repeating I am really new to all of the WOTLK meta games. I am assuming all of the data you are referring to would be pvpers on Warmane that has had success with this specific type of build? Thank you for responding to me! :)
Im playing a full crit Shadow on Warmane only needing to exchange Mooncloth Hands into the Satin ones.
Also, just for the fun of it, I use 2x PVE Head and Shoulder for the additional 5% critchance on our dots and lets say - having around 44% is simply amazing (whilst also having over 17% haste due to BIS Mainhand, Rings and PVE Set items in addition to the Scale for haste and Phylactery for Crit. When all items proc I have over 5500 Spellpower while still having 1131 Resilience :D )
Mana is only an issue in some 2s games against really tanky comps which doesnt happen that often as games often end very quickly (playing FMage Shadow at around 1900 mmr )
Thank you for the insights! I'm excited to try Satin on my Horde!
Does your build work in 3 vs 3 arenas at a high rating and which race are you for this build?
@@devwadehra9896 Haven't played 3s this season yet, excited to see how far we can go! UD right now
How is your ranking in warmane with this build in 2s and 3s?
@@ExpiryTV I want to roll undead but it seems for this specific build set I will need to choose another race I thought of night elf and human simply because having an extra trinket for resilience would be beneficial in a crit/resilience build for 2s and 3s arena.
Why so many hit rating from gear? We get 3% from Shadow Focus talent and we aim for 4% I thought?
4% is for Offensive Dispels on Enemies because it is a Disc spell, not Shadow.
@@ExpiryTV ah ok, thanks for that!
Hi! :)
I wanna play SH/UHDK in 2s and 3s aswell coz my real life friend plays DK... Any thoughts about it? Like stat priorities, which races should we go (we are both humans right now), trinkets etc. Do you think it could be a decent comp in early seasons or its just unplayable now...?! I've played it before, usually Im their main target coz I dont have that many def cds like a DK have, especially vs melees and there are a lot of warrs, dks etc... So its quite hard to play that comp (atleast for me :D) but I like challenges. So yeah, its pretty hard to do nice damage while surviving and ofc sometimes I have to peel my partner (he also helps me out with grips and slows etc), and I go oom very fast as well, so its very easy to die.
Sorry for these quite complex questions but its almost impossible to find a nice guide or something about this comp, coz almost nobody plays it coz not that popular but it can be fun to play for sure. If you have any tips & tricks, I would appriciate. =)
Btw great video mate, I like it, subbed. :)
sp u mean? yea its a decent comp but only s7/s8
IMO best thing to do for an off-meta comp is just work on your overall arena skills/awareness and synergy with your partner. Play as many games as possible and try to learn/improve! You may carve out a nice rating with your comp! Keep in mind SP will get stronger with additional resil/haste/spell power.
@@erikrichter6855 Yeah, ik its much much better later seasons
@@ExpiryTV Thank you! =)
@@ExpiryTV We just started 2s and actually its not that bad as i thought... Ofc there are some hardcounters but I use shackle glyph coz many dks and also I play with improved mana burn and its quite good imo... I dont wanna say im burning like a crazy but sometimes when we dont have offensive cds i can burn 1-2 while surviving and ppl ofc have quite low manabase early seasons so they go oom actually faster than me a lot of times. Yeah ik improved mana burn seems like a bad idea but its working for me atleast for now. We just trying to play lame while waiting for offensinve cds vs healer/dps (almost only hpal warr or dk) comps and oom the healer. Sometimes i can use dispersion just to get mana back... and then we when we get offensive cds back, we try to push and force as many def cds as we can... Im not high geared, only savage set 4/5 (the spirit one + wg helm) and hateful offparts. I dont have proff at all, if I can get BS + engi/jc and some better gear, maybe we can reach nice rating if we practice a lot. :D Didnt try 3s yet but im excited about it. Ofc we didnt meet mirror so far yet... :D I also think about using BM trinket, so i would be more tanky i guess, one more def cd. Thanks for the motivation =)
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