Will the Democrats Replace Biden Before November?
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After Biden's poor performance and a litany of "senior moments" in the first debate, some Democrats are talking up the possibility of replacing him as their Presidential candidate before November. But is this actually feasible so close to the election?
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Democrats had 4 YEARS to find a better candidate.. wtf are they doing
Democrats feel uncomfortable with their heads out of sand
My understanding is that they always put the current president back up for reelection unless they've done horribly?
There was no primary. No race, apart from a single unknown congressman.
It’s gross negligence.
they needed a puppet, not a capable one.
I feel bad for biden. He should be retired
I feel bad for US.
I don't. He should have voluntarily retired already.
I don't feel bad for Biden. Typical yank, too much hubris and selfishness to do the right thing for the common good.
If he wasnt running against wannabe dictator, he probably wouldnt be running.
@@maszlagmathe same goes for Trump, but apparently both are irreplaceable for some reason.
It's pretty comical how it's 2024 and the US has only ever had one presidential nominee (not candidate) born after the 1940s and that was Obama. The next most recent was Al Gore, who was born in 1948.
I had to check, but you are totally correct. Clinton and Bush Jr. are the same age as Trump.
People prefer voting for candidates who not only share their ideas but also their general age range and, well, the age block for all those presidents is the biggest in the country.
@PyschoSavager289 How is it comical. Please explain.
@@answerman9933 Tragically comical.
It's also money. Most of the people in power are older and are entrenched with each other.
They don't want to give up power
American Democrat here. At the conclusion of the debate I decided that I was pro Joexit.
Honest question from outside the USA: HOW is Biden THE choice for democrats? I mean, you could pick one member of the democratic party at random and he would be by % better. (And do not get me started on Trump ...)
Out candidates are selected by the party during primary's, and completing against and incumbent in your own party is not only difficult, but could get you blacklist by the party
@@julonkrutor4649he is the incumbent president and leader of the party it’s extremely rare for incumbent presidents to not run for reelection, and in American politics, the power of incumbent seat is pretty powerful. And for the longest time, it’s not exactly obvious that insert democrat would be doing better versus trump. Any replacement candidate would’ve needed to be elected by the voters in a primary, and because Biden is running for reelection. Nobody who wants a future in democratic politics, is running against him.
@@julonkrutor4649 Inertia, Biden is the current president and they prefer to keep the status quo whether than shake the boat to gamble on getting a better candidate. Additionally the Democrat party threatened its members not to run against Biden and they even cancelled 4 to 5 state primaries completely. They even excommunicated New Hampshire as it was not favoring Biden (excuse was a disagreement over the date of the vote), although Biden did still win the unofficial primary anyway.
Democrat party primaries are well known to be quite controlled by the party, and party elites favorite candidates usually win.
Republicans primaries tend to be a lot more of a mess because they ironically have less institutional controls. The rise of Trump is an example of popular will defeating institutional power. It is quite depressing that Trump was an example of democratic will defeating institutional power back in 2016.
@julonkrutor4649 Basically, all of the Democratic Party leadership said Biden was going to be their candidate. His challengers were Marrianne Williamson, who is outside of politics, RFK Jr, who has also never held political office, and Dean Phillips, who was told by many Democrats not to run. I can only guess that voters chose Biden because the party said so and they didn't know he was this bad.
They could and should; But they wont.
The problem is even if they do, who could they replace him with that most Democrats would support and who could appeal to enough voters to beat Trump
@joshuacampbell1625 Well there is Bernie. Y'know. What most people wanted in 2016.
@madcat789 I would agree if Bernie was 10 years younger. A big part of why Biden is in such a pickle is because of his age, so selecting Bernie would not elevate this concerns.
@madcat789 so you want to replace an 81-year old... with an 82-year old?
@@kechicheahmed9303 At least that 82 year old still has his mind together, and I'm more pointing at the fact they could've picked him in 2016 and avoided trump all together. But they never listen to what the people want.
Sometimes it is important to tell an old man that he should step down.
The same problem in kongress and senate. There are many old people who do to their health and old age should not be in there anymore.
They really need to address that, maybe a age limit of 70 for entrance and 75 for serving
I agree! the Republicans need to tell Donald Trump to kick rocks and get lost!
His Focus needs to be on staying out of prison. He also could work on begging his wife not to leave him.
Has he even apologized to her for cheating?
lars thats rude
@@rikuvakevainen6157 Dianne Feinstein comes to mind based on recency, it was both bad and sad to see her pushed right up till her death being in the senate while she was very clearly not well.
Arent they late? Biden should have said 2020 that he won't run again if Trump doesn't run. A replacement should have been picked 4 years ago.
I think he did but backtracked
@@honoramongscars649I think he didn’t explicitly say he wouldn’t run but highly suggested it in order to convince people. Like he called himself “transitional” which people took as one term, and a lot of aides and leaks seemed to suggest there was a serious discussion, but I believe they were very politician like with it and never outright said it
1) The contingency that Trump wasn't going to run again is something that could not possibly be guaranteed even if Trump made that declaration. 2)The decision to retire for health reasons should be made independently from your adversary's decision to stay in the race; democracies should not be denigrated to grudge matches.
Didn't Mitch McConnell say that there was no need to impeach Trump because he was leaving office and so would no longer be a problem?
If McConnell and other Republicans had done the right thing and voted to impeach Trump then he couldn't have run again and hopefully Biden would have stepped down after one term.
Though Republicans would almost certainly have picked another MAGA candidate so maybe Biden would have still refused to just leave after one term.
Which makes one wonder.
If Trump wins and actually agrees to step down in four years and another MAGA Republican candidate runs in 2028 would Biden try to run again?
Though if Trump wins I doubt that the United States will have another real presidential election for a very long time.
He did. And then he backtracked once electeed
"Could"? They absolutely SHOULD.
I would even go far as to say they MUST.
They must, and somehow still won't
@@iambicpentakill971 They should have been brutally honest with Joe and Jill a year ago. Let's hope for the world that his cold does him in...
"They" can't do anything it is only about to Biden.
@@iambicpentakill971 I'd go further to say they want another Trump presidency, because there'd be more things broken to use for their own re-election, that they can maybe think about fixing but never actually fix.
You really underestimate the power of Joe's Puppeteers
To be fair, Dems voted against Trump, not for Biden, so someone else could just improve the situation
If the dems stick with Biden, they need to learn hard into critiquing the actual policies that Trump, particularly project 2025.
@@joshuacampbell1625If Biden runs he will lose all swing states
Don't forget Biden was chosen because he was the only Democratic candidate who was not a leftwing loon. That situation remains the same.
I’d vote for a spoiled cole slaw sandwich over Trump tbh
Completely accurate. I eagerly voted for Obama/Biden twice but wasn't thrilled with Biden on his own. But I'll vote for whoever has the best chance to beat Trump.
Al Capone vs Al Zheimer
😂
Al Shite
Platinum
Good joke
@@bogdanlipoan2320 Not funny
Now Americans have to choose between liar and dementia... Amazing
Oh, don't sell Donald short. He has plenty of 'senior moments' or just plain old brain farts.
Since when has a politician ever been honest?
Teddy Roosevelt ?
@@dejannincic9671 Alright, pathological liar and extremely dangerous vs dementia. What about that?
liar and liar with dementia - fixed it for you
The concern is not the age.... it's his mental ability. Plenty of people are older than him and just fine
I don't see this being stated enough. There are people who are in there late 70s early 80s who could lead a nation. Whether or not they should is a whole other issue. Biden clearly has some sort of mental illness probably dementia.
It's both, at that age problems come out of nowhere fast. People past 75 years old really should run for president its just to old and to risky
How many times did Trump have the "WTF are you talking about?" look on his face.
To be fair now he knows how we feel all the time when he starts one of his rambles 😅
How many times did Biden have the "WTF was I talking about" look on his face?
@@DarkHarlequin cope
@@DarkHarlequintrue lol😂 but to be fair, Trump is definitely more coherent and easier to understand
@@shukracharya_ You're literally coping.
The post debate speech with Jill Biden was probably the funniest yet also saddest thing I've seen. Wow Joe you answered all the questions like a big boy!
Exactly. How could you put your husband up there so he can embarrass himself and the whole country?
The CNN people turning off his mic when he was rambling too XD
Sad Vary Very Sad
"Now, you can have your cookies and milk, but only after I change your diaper."
Yeah, that was such a crayon drawing on the fridge moment
I actually don't understand why both parties struggle with a reasonable candidate. You really wanna tell me, out of the 330million Americans, that's the best they can do?
Its party infighting whenever this happen. Its not unique to the USA.
Yes. Americas 2 best men
Well Trump is actually really popular inside the Republican Party.
I read a FiveThirtyEight article that said that tons of young congress people leave and don’t seek office again because federal American politics is so freakin depressing.
Republicans really like Trump. We genuinely like him. He is hugely popular in vast swaths of the country, he inspires people, makes them feel good, fights against the people who hate us (such as the media, bureaucracy, global corporations, universities). People dont think Trump is a bad candidate, they genuinely like him and his policies. I think his policies are great and even most independents in the US do too.
67% of Americans thought Trump won the debate.
The other 33% were watching the wrong channel. 😂
Which is sad,.because Trump is a shit house debater.
67% of Americans though Biden lost the debate- that’s more accurate, because nothing Trump did in the debate qualifies him as a winner (except by default)
And that debate poll was conducted by CNN which is kinda surprising!
Were 33% blissfully unaware dimentia patients? 😂
I hope both parties can choose candidates between 50-60 next time
There should be a limit on the age of presidents, tied to the age of retirement in a country.
Trump went thru a primary the people picked. Dems elites rigged their primary. It could have been kennedy.
@@oventi_ Shouldn't that be the job of the voters? Lets be honest here, both men got through their parties primaries, its obvious that up until the other night most of the various parties supported both men.
2028 looks to improve the situation quite a bit.
Likely DeSantis v Newsom
@@Zieg_Games DeSantis ruined his political career. He will need to win over maga. I doubt he can.
USA reaching their late stage version of the ussr selecting their Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko
Who will gonna be the next younger version of Mikhail Gorbachov in USA 😂
Yes. Although the USSR’s leaders kept dying and got through three Soviet leaders in three years. Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev who died in 1982, then Yuri Adropov became Soviet leader but died in 1984, then Konstantin Chernenko became Soviet leader but died in 1985, then chose Gorbachev instead of another elderly leader.
Well that’s not a good parallel…
However those guys are still younger than these 2. Yuri Andropov and Konstantin Chernenko died aged 69 and 73 respectively. So WAY younger
This. Exactly this. I have been making the exact same comparison for years now!
34 felony’s or 34 seconds to live
Dilate
Minutes, days, or weeks would work as well as seconds and would be more accurate. But it is FUNNY and pretty much sums up the situation.
getting a felony from people turning US into a banana republic is a badge of honor
Felonies are not a disqualifying factor for the Presidency. Those charges should never have been brought in the first place.
34 felonies easy, at least he can swing a golf club
I find it ironic to think how Bernie was as old as those two last time he ran for president (even more if I recall correctly) and yet he still seemed far brighter
(Not that the US was ever going to elect a somewhat leftist president)
Also he stepped down and endorsed Biden unequivocally to stop Trump... But now Biden's ego is the obstacle in beating Trump...
"somewhat leftist", lol Bernie is a Bone Fide commie.
Not even an exaggeration by his detractors, he went and lived in a Kibbutz in the 60s
Bidens ego was probably was the problem which frankly is ironic when trump is on the cards but unfortunately at this this point it is too dangerous for him to pass on the role to someone else as it is more likely to sway public opinion against the dems
Some people are just fitter than others.
I don’t think it’s Biden’s ego, I think the party genuinely believes he has a better chance of stopping Trump than any last minute change
berine 'let's be like venezuela' sanders?
thank god he is too old to run
They wish. They're stuck with him.
It’s possible to pressure him to step down, if there is enough political will
They really aren't they can change it at convention, during the primary they elect delegates who in turn elect the candidate but the delegates aren't obligated to stay loyal to there candidate
@@od9694 The way primaries aren’t even held concurrently with each other is a bit baffling though.
Who is the alternative?
@@khlaps how could they pretend to fight for democracy with a committee appointed candidate who didn't go through a primary
At this rate I feel like Biden will kick the bucket before November
Better do it before August. We're on a tight schedule
Biden will mysteriously die.. .. And Hillary will be waiting in the shadows
Probably the plan. Too late to change, stuck with Harris and last second VP pick
Lets hope not. I am not a fan of Biden, but I really don't want to see something happen to POTUS. Its not good for the country, or the world. Some things transcend politics.
Let's hope it happens after the nomination but before the election.
It's sad to see how US politics lost all its content, all its political debate, to focus on personality and physical strength
I mean you don’t want a president who is not mentally capable of doing the job.
@@stoogesrule3162 What he wants is an electorate and citizenry capable of understanding that the president is one man in a giant administration who has a say in appointing thousands of highly skilled and highly intelligent experts to bring about policy goals and regulation. Millions then serve under them. The president does not control every aspect of society, the government, or your life. He is not an omniscient or omnipotent being.
@@theextraordinarypants4909 Oh of course I agree with you... Let me ask you a question... Would you trust a person who is mentally incapable of being the President of the United States, and is probably also incapable of even putting his clothes on in the morning being the one to hire people to serve in his admin? These are the same people who for months have been saying nothing is wrong with him. These are also the same people who will be hiring those thousands of other employees... It almost seems like you want someone who is mentally capable doing this job in any sense of the word
@@stoogesrule3162 I agree with @theextraordinarypants4909 the president is not the sole responsible for running the country, there are thousands of public and political servants to correct the course and people should focus on deciding which course they want.
I also see that @stoogesrule3162 has some opinions about Biden and I get your point (I said the same about Biden on twitter) but MY point here is: people shouldn't be debating personal traits and mental capabilities of presidential candidates because the US shouldn't have these candidates.
It's a sad situation.
@@stoogesrule3162 I agree with @theextraordinarypants4909 the president is not the sole responsible for running the country there are thousands of public and political servants to correct the course and people should focus on deciding which course they want.
I see @stoogesrule3162 has some opinions about Biden and I get your point (I said the same about Biden on twitter). But MY point here is: people shouldn't be debating personal traits and mental capabilities of presidential candidates because the US shouldn't have these candidates.
It's a sad situation.
As an American liberal it sincerely pisses me off how many other liberals want to stick with Biden.
Now is not the time to flip flop on leadership, we kinda have to unite under him, even if he is slightly geriatric. Better than Trump🤷♂️
@@Moostache_ "SLIGHTLY" that is like calling the titanic a slight mishap
@Moostache_ no just no, he is well beyond geriatric and is a shitty president regardless of his mental decline
Almost like we should be able to hold a Motion of no confidence against the president or something...
So the US could hold an election every 2 days?
😂😂
It's called
*Invoking the 25th Amendment*
Looki it up 😎😎
@@HughJass-jv2lt But no one wants Kamala either.
From its inception, the US of A has rejected Parliamentary Democracy in favor of a republican version. Each has its strengths and weaknesses, but the absence of budgetary crisis, due to elections being called when motions of confidence fail, is definitely a big positive of the Parliamentary system. But even in ruling parties with unpopular leaders, you really don't often see caucus revolts leading to the ousting of a Prime Minister.
@@Lawrence-lj5jz We have parliamentary democracy in my country (Czechia), it has its issues, but I will not change it for the presidental system, especially not for the American one. The fact that the prime minister has almost always a majority in the parliament and can persue policies effectivelly is a huge advantage. And at the same time, the prime minister can lose confidence vote when he is considered unfit for office. Which both Biden and Trump deffinitelly are.
Of course they can, but realistically Biden would have to willingly step aside
Biden never wanted to be president in the first place... He got pushed into it by the democrats since he was the only figure at the time that was well-known, experienced, relatively popular, and also wouldn't scare those in the middle. I don't think an 80+ year old man enjoys the stresses of being president of the most powerful conutry in the world, must be exhausting even to someone younger.
we don’t even know if biden is still capable of making decisions willingly. if he is so lost on public we can only imagine what is he doing in private or what is done to him
Yep. and lets be honest the ego of anyone who actually wants that job is huge already, trying to get that same ego to accept they can't do that job anymore? Its a tall order.
They were able convice Bernie to step down, they could do it for Joe
Select Gorbachev, it's time
Gorbachov?
@@user-wj9qj6yta15 Accelerationists have started referring to Trump as America's Gorbachov, because he's going to alienate most of the United State's steadfast allies, withdraw from nato, end funding to many united nation's programs, attack american democracy in his attempts at revenge and power consolidation, and effectively cripple American Hegemony.
Which. For people who hate American Hegemony or think the world would be better off without the U.S. as a superpower, they don't see that as a bad thing even if the process will be bloody.
As someone likely to be targeted if Project 2025 happens as written, I'm not one of those accelerationists. But I know them and that's where many stand.
@@user-wj9qj6yta15 If you know, you know.
Id suggest :
Gary Kasparov
Magnus Karlsen
@user-wj9qj6yta15 I think this is in reference to how the premiers that preceeded Gorbachev were all so old they only lasted a couple years each before dying of old age.
Trump isn't much younger and is already showing signs of senility as well. Neither of them belong in a presidential race.
Replace the whole senate
That is one of the things that really stood out to me about this debate. Trump has shown plenty of senile moments (although sometimes it is hard to tell his senility from his lunacy). Biden came off as so glaringly senile that he made Trump look sharp (even while he was lying with every other breath).
Nah, they're not at all comparable. Biden clearly has dementia and has declined sharply. Trump is just old.
Yes, but Republicans are not supposed to be competent. In fact their goal is to make the state unable to act in the interest of its citizens, and Trump is perfect for that.
Trump got that loud mouth yapping dementia while Biden has the confused one.
It's really amazing how determined USA is to repeat soviet "Hearse Races"
It's called "the Andropov effect"
When your political class is so selective and gatekept that they all cluster around one age demographic, causing them to all age into senility and death of old age in a short period of time.
@@DukeofTxtspeak I've never made that connection. But this is totally what is happening. No matter which candidate wins, both have a non-insignificant chance of coming down with the good-ol natural causes by 2028
@@DukeofTxtspeak so, effectively what happened to every type of government in human history (the politicians are getting old, and they are becoming more and more senile and detach to the needs of the population, and then they start wars to delay the inevitable)
@@exa.-210Especially after the debate, I wouldn't be surprised if Biden runs into natural causes this year.
@@DukeofTxtspeak But Trump wasn't the political cvlass though... he's just old but still was voted to be presdent from the masses...
It's joever for joe
Gratz on the first.
@@madcat789 I clicked on it faster than joe sniffed a girl's hair
One criticism I have about Trump's talking points here is that you didn't mention immigration at all. I think he spent a lot of time on that, saying the border is wide open, people are being killed by illegals, etc. He also only mentioned the 2020 election once towards the end.
and Afghanistan he kept bringing that up to avoid answering the questions he was given with substance.
Is it wide open? Because it isn’t
Do you know how illegal immigrants go and stay in the USA? They abuse their work visa. After their visa expires, they just stay. How do you combat that?
@@sheevpalps3846 it is, there is zero risk in crossing it illegally
@@reksapluss716 Not true. Border patrols have increased since Biden took office. It's just that due to the pandemic and worsening political instability that the ones attempting to come in have multiplied.
As someone who is more left leaning it was a hard watch. Both candidates are terrible.
We need to replace Biden and Trump. Enough with these 2 old farts.
We need someone younger that knows what is going on in the world, and how to deal with it.
But the age restriction for president is not helping the youth to rise in power.
@@StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6igit is litteraly 35 years its pretty reasonable
@@StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6ig The 35 year old restriction make sense. It just does not make sense there is not a restriction for those above 65.
@@yahnah9116 But the problem is, that most of the politicians are just old or older than 30,40s into their 50s.
@@leonidasg2257 yes combined with old politicians too.
Its unfortunate that Biden is the candidate, his answers - if judged by substance - were pretty solid, when you take away the obvious age issues. It really makes you think about the underlying issues in the Dem.party if they couldnt propose any other candidate in these FOUR YEARS. There are so many younger candidates, but of course all of them will bring change - to the establishment most of all.
The last part of your comment is so true. American establishment know if they elect someone younger, there will be change. But afaik Americans collectively agree they need younger candidates
Agreed, but also, a new candidate, even if sharp and prepared, could not be enough to convince more centrist democrats. On the other hand, a younger progressive could mobilise young voters. It is a gamble no matter the choice. Biden already won against Trump, so it is the safest choice if your goal is to beat Trump.
"his answers - if judged by substance - were pretty solid"
You mean like the oft-repeated Charlottesville "fine people" hoax? Debunked both by host Jake Tapper and by Snopes, just a few days ago, yet Biden still fell into the trap. They posted the relevant segment of the transcript.
Who did they have that was viable? After Tulsi Gabbard left the party, they had no one with any measure of poise, eloquence. and eclectic experience (she was military, white collar private sector, and a politician -- she had it all, and the Dems buried her for eviscerating Kamala Harris in their debate.
@@oventi_ I was against the alienating centrist argument in 2020 and I'm against it now. 2020 was an election against trump. most people weren't voting for joe FOR joe, and while it would be a lie to say his presidency hasn't come with some good policy changes, most people aren't excited to vote for joe, especially with his largely unpopular with youth voters lukewarm support of Israel during the currently ongoing g3noc1de
Catch 22: If he would step aside if he understands the situation. If he does he proves that he is sufficiently aware and capable to run.
I do however think that a new, younger dem candidate maintaining Kamala Harris as VP that is a sharp contrast to Trumps craziness and awful policy proposals is their best bet however, many polls show the dems preforming much better than Trump if they change the candidate to literally almost anyone else. Such a sane and refreshing decision would show that the dems are transparent and listening to the will of the people - instead of too proud and in denial of the situation, which most median voters thinking the current situation is insane would appreciate. It would also make it possible for the dems to focus more on actual policy and progress (The Biden administration has done tremendously good things for the economy and in passing lots of good legislation - policy wise it’s one of the most successful 1st terms in modern history) rather than it being overshadowed by Biden’s declining health and embarrassments.
He really isn’t fit to run
@carlrowland3757 probably not even fit to walk for that matter
Give it a week and the Democrats will hope that voter amnesia will set in and the media can re start its gas lighting about how Joe is sharp as a tack.
*^THIS*
😂😂
its already happening, and to be fair it just might work out for them, voters do tend to have a short attention span. I do wonder however if Biden will do the second debate now. I mean do you take a chance of reminding the voters that your candidate is sunsetting?
A week? Yesterday, CNN was going gaga over a post-debate rally speech he did.
They forgot to mention he was on teleprompter though.
Ever during the debate, they were saying "Biden has a cold". No one believed it.
It's a fair enough bet for a people dim enough to call that incoherent rambling a "debate" or to elect either of those two to any office.
his lost on the stage is more than a bit....
The Cane in the Thumbnail is wild
Truth is both candidates are way too old
People age at different rates.
The cross country skier
Jackrabbit Johanson complained that past the age of 100
he had to stop for lunch after skiing all morning before skiing in the afternoon instead of just skiing all day without a break.
Obviously Trump and Biden have not aged as well as him.
That debate would have been a great time to get rid of both candidates..
Call them both to testify against Boeing.
Don't worry guys, we finally beat Medicare!
They both should be replaced
In due time, I don't see the rush. Get Trump out and you'll have all the time in the world.
Right now, you all need to worry about beating the would be dictator.
@@CandleWisp Next 4 years will be crazy in America. Three equally mentally unstable guys running for president.
@@CandleWispwould be dictator? That doesn’t describe Trump.
My opinion of Trump is almost improving... Seems 4 years away from the seat after having been President has "slightly" expanded his mind.
That and he seems less inclined to drive us towards a new Cold War or WW3 than Biden. He's even less anti-China than he was before.
@@Leto2ndAtreides You remember what happened when Bush sr. tried to stay out of international conflicts? Iraq invaded Kuwait. Trump's reluctance to have the USA show spine will only increase the danger of more war.
Abortion up to the point of birth is legal in my state, Oregon. So how is that a lie???
It’s only for medical issues, though. no one is having an aboriton “just because they don’t want a baby” so close to birth.
Because trump pointed it out like it’s a common thing to get a late term abortion when it’s not
Lmao imagine running a literal corpse
How sad is it that a senile old man is still a better choice that trump
almost Like God emperor of mankind 😅
Both of them should be replaced , the liar and the old age guy 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Both of those qualities are describing Biden
@@loganleroy8622Trump lied 200% more than Biden ever has
@loganleroy8622 Both describe Trump better, especially the liar part. Just look at the debate fact checks, Trump lied more and it wasn’t even a competition.
@@sheevpalps3846 Nah the only way that would be true is because Biden's statements were so incoherent and meandering that it makes it impossible to determine what the claim to fact check is.
Trump always speaks in a grandiose way about everything. If he says they had the lowest taxes during his administration, he means they lowered taxes for everyone, which he did. Your mistake is taking him literally and not seriously. The moment you understand that, Trump has always been the better candidate.
@@loganleroy8622 No. Trump said Dems support abortion until birth, but no Dem does. Especially no one in Biden's camp. He said he had the best environmental numbers ever, whatever that means. But not only is that an exaggeration, it's an outright lie.
He gave a pass to corporation in keeping line with environmental regulations, and got rid of many agreements/organizations keeping this in check.
Trump said he had the most secure border in history, but that's inaccurate: it's one of the worst, look at how many people came across and the border-related violence during his presidency.
Biden doesn't sell himself well, but his "lies" are more in line with exaggeration. He said there were no jobs when Trump left, but what he meant was that job opportunities were scarce: which was completely true. He said insulin and senior copays were capped very low, but the real numbers were slightly higher (which is still much better than ever in the last half century). Trump makes things out of thin air, he likes to mix less extreme lies so as to inflate his own image. He's a showman, and he's perfected this trade. There's a reason why everyone outvoted him the first time.
Anyone they chose as a replacement will seem like Albert Einstein.
Not gonna lie, the US is giving late stage Soviet gerontocracy vibes...
that is ironic because they were only really old by low Soviet life expectancy standards since they all died in their early 70s.
Really, the question is, what happens if one or both die before the election?
Before the conventions? The delegates can be released I think and become super delegates, and can technically vote for who they want, though that would create some problems with the fundraising since all of that money was written to the "Biden/Harris" campaign, so unless Harris is on the ticket it would probably meet some legal problems.
Post convention and before the election? Their running mate moves to the top of the ticket, though Biden's name would still be on the ballot.
This is elder abuse plain and simple. His wife and his handlers should be ashamed of themselves
I usually watch these on Nebula but im so glad I caught the youtube notification for this one because that thumbnail is hilarious
Stop lying
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The Trump derangement syndrome is really something special in the media and online. As a Canadian I find it absolutely stunning what people can get away with saying, even when its possible to point to him having been in power before. Frightening what evils people will do in the name of a possible evil, not seeing that they have become the very thing they profess to be fighting, and in fact even worse.
What about Bush derangement syndrome?
It's convenient to call something "evil", even though that very thing is in no way comparable to the evils of another person. Trump being convicted for sexual assault and having had dozens of assault allegations (including that he raped his wife), now that is something i would call evil. Because you have to have a very pronounced lack of empathy to do this to another person. In comparison, saying that someone is deranged is nothing. And it's not like Trump doesn't insult people with similar (worse in fact) rethoric ALL THE TIME. So at the very least, they are even on that singular issue - which doesn't really have any significance when we are talking about issues like the economy, womens rights and the freedom of the Western world.
@@gclip9883 I think what you fail to understand is people seeing the person, and not the job. If you take away the person and the party and say A and B, A clearly did a better job and B clearly has failed at the job. Now you want to talk about evils, I'd say voting in someone that ruins economies and takes away freedoms is the far greater evil. How many people died due to miss management, or the "modern" actions of putting people in roles that shouldn't have them, or aren't qualified to have them, but they check boxes? Economies crashing beings misery to millions. If people can't see that and would doom a country to failure, and its people with it, just because the media tells them "orange man bad" is the ultimate form of stupidity and evil in my mind.
Don't expect logic or concern about justice, democracy, legality or the United States from MAGA cult voters.
I think that your problem in understanding is having the delusion that MAGA cult members are normal people.
Trump lost all his debates 2016? That's some bad weed you are smoking.
Depends on who you ask.
For what it's worth, I still blame Hillary for Comrade Orange's first term.
Nothing will ever top “because you would be in jail”. So glad I saw that live on tv
@goldenfiberwheat238
That will on in history 👍
@@garygowan4134 what
@@krisdaschwab912 I think he bought the first term the way the Democrats did in 2020. I think he was surprised they stayed bought. So he had to shut up about it. And let 2020 go so he could expose it.
To say Trump lost his debates to Hillary is such gaslighting. Debates matter, they're not everything but they do really affect people's perception.
Trump definitely did not lose the debates to Hillary. In fact he basically clocked her. By the same Token, people who thought Trump won the debates back in 2016 are equally partisan. At best Trump had a tie in the second Debate, but was destroyed in the first debate due to his behavior so the series went to Biden.
In this one... well I don't think Trump did great, but damn Biden did so badly that he may have to claim an in kind campaign donation to the Trump campaign on his federal forms.
And nobody watched the Debates with Bush vs Kerry because Bush was going to win reelection
i feel like its over…
some are trying to reason he had a cold and just came back from france, but this debates a big deal and his team shouldve made certain he appears abled in from of the american audience. you cant afford to flub this.
Joe was at Camp David for a week being prepped for the debate. He knew what the questions would be and he still couldn't answer them.
You did rishi dirty in the end 😂
It's too late to salvage the party's credibility. "He had a cold." We don't want to be insulted any more.
The cane in Biden’s ear got me every time😂💀.
My fellow Americans, let's never vote for someone over the age of 50 to any office ever again.
Spent the last 4 years dismissing peoples concerns about Bidens obvious decline and now everyone is shocked and panicking. Nobody who has actually paid attention is surpised by this debate outcome.
At this point the only real hope for the US is RFK jr, maybe we can have a decent president finally.
The answer is "no", now let's watch the video.
Video titles with question marks can be answered "NO". There, I saved you time.
THey can't "ditch" him. That's not the way it works. The decision is up to the POTUS.
Can someone please tell me what laptop is that on the desk?
We went from having to choose between the lesser of two evils to the lesser of two catastrophically diminished in one debate
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Way too late to replace him. Why can't Democrats understand this?
Kinda feels like we're speeding down the highway with no one at the wheel
Anyone that says "abortion after birth" doesn't obviously know what abortion means... that's just dumb...
Given the history of politics, there are other ways parties have removed leaders.
How about a Haley vs Newsom ticket, they are still shit but at least shit to be fully honest.
For while people were thinking a Newsom vs DeSantis race would be in the works. (Although it could happen in 2028). Two influential governors would be a return to normalcy. So be fair Haley was also a governor, although Haley vs Whitmer may also be in the works.
@@threecards333 Many don't like Haley at all, she would be a bad pick.
@@threecards333 You mean Meatball Ron.
You have to give it to trump, its a name that sticks.
Haley was a last-place candidate in the race. The only reason she ended with any delegates at all was because she refused to drop out even after more popular candidates already had.
In a race without Trump, she would get trounced.
Anybody who thinks Haley has a chance to win the Republican nomination in 2028 is delusional.
I sent Rishi your link for Brilliant. Now we wait 🤞
Looking at the US elections from outside, it seems like they are always choosing between bad and worst. Isn't there a single competent person in that entire country that wants this job?
They definitely should
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ITS only for ur past horrible watch
Deserve!🤣
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Haha, didn't recognize you without your glasses for a second there at the end.
Thanks as always to the whole TLDR team for your excellent work.
I love how they act like no one ever heard of the internet before
What's the point of the presenter narrating key points during the debate right BEFORE showing clips from the debate with the exact points. Time filler much?
And let the democrats convention free for all begin
"Brought to you by Brilliant"
Brutal. I wish we had Presidential candidates that measured up to that, but no.
Bit lost? He was completely lost on that stage lol
The lights are on, but nobody is home.
Joemama
Joe mama so old, Biden was her babysitter.
Man even the Brits saw that performance…
I feel like it’s too late for democrats to switch candidates, the damage has already been done. It’s not like anyone is still going to vote for them anyway.
You could wheel Biden out in a wheelchair, and because of his incumbent position alone, he would have a greater chance than all other probable candidates. You need to ask yourself-do you want to give Trump a higher chance to win? If yes, you would've chosen a new candidate. Even if they did it four years ago, Biden would have a higher chance because of his incumbency.
Because of that, there is no way in hell the dems will let someone else take his place. It would be a sure loss.
Amen. And this is an election for democracy, otherwise they would throw it away like they did with nominating Kerry.
Running him will be a sure loss. He isn't capable of inspiring anyone outside of his already loyal base these days. And his base looks willfully ignorant and cultish for shouting down at everyone who dares to criticize their dear leader.
The DNC are assuming they can guilt trip the american people into voting for an incompetent old man. That their fearmongering is a winning campaign strategy. It isn't. The majority of once every four years voters that decide the electoral college aren't going to pick Biden because Trump is a worse option. They tried it in 2020 and they weren't happy with the result. Look at Biden's approval rating in swing states for the past two years.
I'm not saying all those people are switching to Trump. They're just deciding to vote third party or stay home entirely. And it's the DNC's fault for not learning from their mistakes in 2016.
They can wheel out the dead people to vote for him again 😂
I find it very ridiculous, and that "doom and gloom" could mean the end of American democracy.
End of democracy? You need to stop listening to left wing fear-mongering.
Democracy has been an illusion since long ago…
Democracy? America has never been a democracy.
if they were to replace him what would the process be to find the new nominee in such a short amount of time ?
He mixed up Trillions and Billions, not Millions and Billions. He claimed the US has 1000 Trillionaires, which is absurb when the whole US economy is just over 25 Trillion.
At 2:40 they say "Trump lied constantly" please substantiate that claim. If youre gonna say such a thing then please be specific. Which moment in particular is a lie you're referring to
Can't post links here but factcheck has a list of both. A few highlights for "Trump lied constantly" are:
Trump wrongly claimed, “I gave you the largest tax cut in history.” That’s not true either as a percentage of gross domestic product or in inflation-adjusted dollars.
Trump made the unsupported claim that the U.S. border with Mexico is “the most dangerous place in the world,” and suggested that it has opened the country to a violent crime wave. The data show a reduction in violent crime in the U.S.
Trump falsely claimed that there was “no terrorism, at all” in the U.S. during his administration. There were several terrorist acts carried out by foreign-born individuals when he was president.
They literally gave 5 examples...
@@Meta7 I did too, but my comment seems to have disappeared. Could be because I mentioned a fact check...internet location? (Trying to avoid falling into UA-cam's web of banned words)
Biden and Sanders should never have ran in 2020. Took away too much of the oxygen from everyone else running
"Replacing him now would be chaotic and divisive"...i guess you ve never been to America lol😂.The whole country is chaotic and divisive😂
we need a giant ad campaign to convince him to leave
Biden... he has done the best he could, but please let the next gen Newsome, Abrams, Whitmer, Warren take the reigns.
Newsome? The man who has done so poorly that California lost population from people fleeing the state under his watch.
Newsom has driven California into the ground and turned it into the world's largest tent encampment. Abrams lost twice and still hasn't conceded defeat. Whitmer made it illegal to do home improvement, garden, buy baby clothes, go out on a boat, or go to a vacation house (unless you're her husband) during the 'rona. Warren has lied about being Native American for decades and is a failed economist.
So y'all call out Trump for lying but not Biden???
We don’t know if he’s lying because we don’t know what he said
What did Biden lie about that was a bigger deal than Trump? Review the debate, see who lied more
@@Bobelponge123 You know that was a pretty good response. I tip my hat to you my friend.
Y'all..is not a word.stop it!
@@CaptRR You know what good fucking point🤣🤣
Bring Big Mike to the stand to face Trump on a debate, I'll pay PPV to see that live!
Thanks for leaving out their argument over their golf ⛳️ game.
I'm tired of the media fighting the choice of these two parties, especially the Democrats. If the media fought the Republicans on their choice of Trump as they don in Biden, there might be more Anti-Trumpers. The media definitely grades the two on different scales.
I think it's cause Trump feels like he bullied his way into the race despite the party while Biden feels like the party pushed him into that position so it feels like Biden is a choice Trump is an wanna be-Autocrat doing wanna be Autocrat things. Just my guess 🤷♂
Yeah, Biden's candidacy suffers a lot from being senile (fair) but then Trump almost gets away from explicitly wanting to become a dictator, putting national security in dangers, r4ping, threatening judges and opponents, falsifying his business records, being senile... Which in turn claims the question of why the Democrats can't get a better candidate, it's not as if they expected fair ground. In the Republicans' case everyone knew Trump would sweep the rest because moderates fear the mob, but with the Democrats it's plain incompetence
The trouble is that the Republican membership love Trump, and that hardly anyone runs against or wins against the incumbent in a primary. Therefore, it's Trump vs Biden again...
Exactly. The media remains Trump's greatest asset even when they put on a show of "condemning" him. I don't think there's any candidate, president, or ex-president that's had as much consistent coverage of their every word and action as Trump has been given for the past 8 years. And it's all for profit, they just know any article they write with Trump's name in the title will always get eyes on it. So they'll never shut up about him. And both of them are easy scapegoats for problems affecting this country that objectively have little to do with who's president, and run much deeper in our political and economic system.
Media is consistently critical of Republican choice of Trump. The whole meta discussion regarding Biden is not whether Biden would be a good president upon reelection but only whether Biden can protect the country against Trump. US media was promoting Niki Haley as an alternative to Trump this winter and she did so so in the primaries.
The fear is of Trump winning, so that is counter to the narrative of getting Republicans to drop Trump as Republicans want back into power. (Although i would assert than a generic Republican can likely defeat Biden easily given a lot of Biden votes are anti-Trump rather than pro-Biden).
Trump is going to be at UFC 303 tonight!! CHAMA 🗿
I’m a republican. Never thought I’d say “damn I really miss Obama.” Both parties NEED to find someone else.
Biden and his inner circle came out and said he would not drop out.
It would be difficult to highlight Biden's lies as I could not understand most of what he said.