Any team can offer up a future 1st rounder, but as of right now no other team can offer up 2 1st round picks in the draft this year, which has higher value than any future pick.
Bears aren't making the same mistake this year, and passing on a franchise qb again. No way they trade out of the top spot and not take Caleb Williams. You got a better shot trading with the Pats, but even they might stand their ground and take Maye or Jayden. @@Ruggerschr
@@votedonbypatrons no, the bears and commanders already have a deal worked out for 1.2 and poles has been hypothetically shopping it and I think the trades by the Vikes were to give them the ammo.
@@wolfwang8464 I'm thinking they're trading up with the Cardinals at 4. To get Drake Maye they'd have to give up probably a little bit more at 3 but at 4, that's enough to grab a JJ McCarthy. Plus they can't risk anybody else like the Broncos trading up who also need a franchise QB.
@@ESkog true, but it's a deep receiving draft. And at 11, they can still grab a top lineman in the draft. But if a team is giving them 2 firsts this year and a future second next year, you have to jump on that. No other team can offer better that currently.
Here is the PROBLEM with this years draft . If all of the top 4 teams stay put in there order & the Chargers do NOT trade with the Broncos or Raiders , who need a QB . The Giants at NO # 6 , still do need a QB ! So that could still be 4 teams taken a QB before the 11th draft pick ? And still have the problem of the Broncos or Raiders trading into the 7 - 10 draft picks area ?
That's what they should do, even if it means having to move all the way up to #2. You aren't getting anywhere in this league without a very good QB. They need to pay whatever it costs to get one.
@@Other_Robotshow did that work with Mac Jones? 😅 build pieces around the QB and then go get your guy. Look at Purdy with the 49ers. That way your team is a legit contender right away with your QB on a rookie deal and studs around him.
@@Other_Robots Generally I think it's probably better to build around o-line, and especially left tackle. Vikings have the best if not top 2 tackle duos.
I say stay put at 11 and wait for JJ to fall to them. I think he will. He is better than Drake May who is just a pocket passer. The Vikings will regret drafting Drake May. Think about it, they give away three for first round picks to take a pocket passer who could be the flop of the 2024 draft.
How do you not know the plan? Its as obvious as it can be. Get rid of Kirks massive cap hit, reallocate that money into the defense. Draft a rookie QB coming into one of the best offenses in the league for a rookie to be in and hopefully have a well enough rounded defense in a few years with the money saved from Kirks contract. Not hard to understand.
Who are they trading up with? Pats and washington shipped out their QBs so they’re not moving, and bears are drafting caleb williams. Cardinals are drafting marvin harrison jr. So maybe chargers at 5? But they could also use a top WR after losing their 2 main guys. Like im sure they wanna trade up but theres nobody in that top 4-5 who’s not gonna wanna trade down and are you really gonna give up multiple firsts for bo nix or jj mccarthy?
Vikings just need to stay where they are, and both will be available. Drake May could also slip to that position. That would be the best spot for him, he needs a lot of work. Not ready to be an NFL starter imo. Sitting for a year, while having another pick in the first round... seems like a possible scenario.
@@dogcatpwexactly, vikings should keep the picks and see who falls to them at 11. Especially because i don’t trust my giants to draft a QB and instead double down on the 3 bums we already have so somebody is bound to fall to them at 11 to sit behind darnold a year
If the Giants had that second pick still? I would draft Brock, and hope Vegas doesn't take Penix or Nix. Not having that pick, still doesn't change their need at that position. I still like Brock at this pick. He's versatile. No barkley? They need to add an element to their offence. The Chargers are also picking a WR, so Rome or Brock? The guys you got need help to win a game. Lower tier QB always need to be heavily supplemented. Pats should pick Harrisson if they were smart. They get a QB in the early second. GM's fall for hype over value too often when building a team.
Come on. Darnold was the 'Just in case' option the moment they signed him. If things go well he's a decent back up, if they go badly he's a decent back up.
Patriots should trade 3 to Minnesota for both 1st rounders this year and Minnesota 1st rounder 2025 and BUILD THIS TEAM! Take qb at 11, take a tackle at 23, take a WR 2nd round and maybe trade Minnesota 1st 2025 for Aiyuk. Perfect situation‼️
They aren’t trading for Herbert stop. Vikings don’t want another high priced qb that can’t win anything not to mention won’t chargers take a planet sized cap it ? Stop it get some help 😂
The Vikings most likely nosed around this past month and talked with potential trade partners to get a picture of what it would take to move up. I am guessing that at least one potential partner in the top 4 or 5 picks said two first rounders this year to make the deal.
Putting a QB behind a bad offensive line with mediocre weapons to throw to is the surest way to ruin a young QB. Some QBs are able to maintain their confidence but many never regain it e.g. Mac Jones.
When are the Vikings going to start looking for cornerbacks in free agency? That's been a major weakness of ours for a long time and it would be nice to get some starts in there that can lock someone down
Interesting situation. The Vikings could move up with basically three firsts. The question becomes who would fall to the Vikings at 11? If the Vikings feel their guy would be gone by then, they will trade up and pay the price. Niners did it a couple of years ago and drafted Trey Lance. Look at how that worked out. Vikings should be able to get JJ, Nix, or Penix at 11. If I was the Chargers, I would trade back for two firsts.
Seems more likely that the Chargers trade down with the Vikings since they have Herbert. Also some reports have the Giants taking a QB, so the Vikings can leap frog the Giants and take their guy.
If I was the Pats GM. I would take Marvin Harrisson jr. This will cause a run on WR getting taken. Cards, Bolts, maybe Giants. Vikes, Broncos take May and Mcarthy. Penix or Nix get taken by the Raiders... you have the 34th pick. You will have a high probability of getting both. You pick a QB first... you miss the point. There is better value with Harrison, than with any other QB not named Caleb, or Jayden.
In both, I meant the best player, and a second tier QB. You need to get your weaker prospect help. May will be an absolute bust if Pats pick him here. This would be a huge mistake.
So I worked at ESPN before and now I work for another company that covers sports. I can say this is them doing all talk. Because in reality they know what everyone genuine with sports knowledge snows. Do you take the shot on the quarterback, because if they work out you're good everything else settles in after.
This is not a move you make if you’re the Vikings GM if you haven’t already had conversations with teams at the top and know the price tag. Otherwise he would have waited until draft night to trade for another first…
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Move up for the 2nd pick if not stay at 11 and 23. Get a QB that sits for a year and a starter at the defensive line or cornerback. The team has 100+ million cap space to build out team next year or Go get Justin Herbert lol
Herbert 😂 No. It’ll never happen Vikings just let go of high priced guy who hasn’t won anything in Kirk like Herbert and the chargers would take like 90 million dollars cap hit so no 😂
Being reluctant to move out of the top3 is the mistake QB needy teams have made and end up convincing themselves to draft guys like Zach Wilson, Bortles, etc Besides Caled and Daniels I'm not that sold on this class. I think Maye, JJ, Penix, Bo Nix will be decent starters but not elite. I would take 3 first easily
I'm betting the Bears already know what picks they will be getting from Washington and the deal is done. Only waiting on Caleb's pro day and more importantly physical. That's it. When that happens, we will get the haul we have been expecting and Poles is already gauging what he can do with 1.2. He's pitting NE and NYG against Vikes who just worked up some more ammunition to try to convince us. Probably wouldn't have done that without knowing we would trade. Don't be surprised if we end up with 3 firsts next year (Ours Wash and Vikes) and 1.9, 1.11 and 1.23.
I mean, will Williams even have a Pro Day? Or will he refuse to partake it that, too? The bloke is a sook. He continues to skip everything. Wrong attitude. He's in it for the wrong reasons.
DUMB. Our GM is dumb enough to make the trade, but he is also dumb enough to trade both 1st rounders for magic beans that are suppose to grow another Tom Brady.
Any team can offer up a future 1st rounder, but as of right now no other team can offer up 2 1st round picks in the draft this year, which has higher value than any future pick.
Yeah this dude is in dream land if he thinks teams are trading away 3 first round picks
Chicago could offer up 2 1sts...
@@jollyroger4970 if they did their entire staff would lose their jobs.
This dude needs his own show... he's awesome!
he's really good
I agree 👍
Josh Mccown, the Vikings QB coach, was teammates with Sam Darnold (signed him) and coached Drake Maye in High School. Their plan is very clear
It would be sweet if we can keep our 1st next year and still manage to trade up to get him
@@DanDan-hq6bl Vikes will give 3 firsts to the bears for 1.2 and take maye. Book it
Bears aren't making the same mistake this year, and passing on a franchise qb again. No way they trade out of the top spot and not take Caleb Williams. You got a better shot trading with the Pats, but even they might stand their ground and take Maye or Jayden. @@Ruggerschr
@@Ruggerschryou mean the commanders?
@@votedonbypatrons no, the bears and commanders already have a deal worked out for 1.2 and poles has been hypothetically shopping it and I think the trades by the Vikes were to give them the ammo.
The Vikings have $125 Million in cap space next off season. They will trade up, The question is can we get pick 3,4,or5
Yes we can and will. It’s not hard trading for the 5th. But the 3rd?? Hmmm
@@wolfwang8464 I'm thinking they're trading up with the Cardinals at 4. To get Drake Maye they'd have to give up probably a little bit more at 3 but at 4, that's enough to grab a JJ McCarthy. Plus they can't risk anybody else like the Broncos trading up who also need a franchise QB.
@@juliusjean-baptiste924i think cardinals will be hard to trade with. they need O line or MHjr at 4.
@@ESkog true, but it's a deep receiving draft. And at 11, they can still grab a top lineman in the draft. But if a team is giving them 2 firsts this year and a future second next year, you have to jump on that. No other team can offer better that currently.
please ALWAYS make this guy the fill in for Rich. He's so much more enjoyable than all the other subs they bring in.
LMAO How in the heck can you NOT know what the Vikings are doing bruh?! It's so obvious Stevie Wonder could see we are drafting a QB!
Here is the PROBLEM with this years draft . If all of the top 4 teams stay put in there order & the Chargers do NOT trade with the Broncos or Raiders , who need a QB . The Giants at NO # 6 , still do need a QB ! So that could still be 4 teams taken a QB before the 11th draft pick ? And still have the problem of the Broncos or Raiders trading into the 7 - 10 draft picks area ?
Sam Darnold was always a bridge. It was pretty obvious that that was the case
Love Kirk Morrison as guest host
I’m really hoping the Vikes move up for Drake Maye!
That's what they should do, even if it means having to move all the way up to #2. You aren't getting anywhere in this league without a very good QB. They need to pay whatever it costs to get one.
The Patriots need a big influx of talent, not just a QB
Yeah but if you’re a rebuilding team you always start with getting the QB first and then build around them
@@Other_Robotshow did that work with Mac Jones? 😅 build pieces around the QB and then go get your guy. Look at Purdy with the 49ers. That way your team is a legit contender right away with your QB on a rookie deal and studs around him.
Build an O line first. If you can't protect the QB then what's the point.
@@Other_Robots Generally I think it's probably better to build around o-line, and especially left tackle. Vikings have the best if not top 2 tackle duos.
@@Other_Robotsnot always the case. You gotta have some pieces in place before. Throwing a rookie qb to the wolves rarely ever works.
Vikings building a lowkey squad
lol. I would say Vikings might be the worst team in the NFC north. Change my mind…
@andrewmace2140 as a vikings fan,Even if they win the division they still the worst team in the NFC North.
@@BuschLatte as a bears fan I would say I know exactly how u feel.
Kirk & TJ need a podcast together. Two very likable guys who would bring in just as many viewers as Rich.
Kwesi was in SF when they moved up for Trey Lance. I just don't see him making that mistake, maybe just take the QB that falls too #11?
I say stay put at 11 and wait for JJ to fall to them. I think he will. He is better than Drake May who is just a pocket passer. The Vikings will regret drafting Drake May. Think about it, they give away three for first round picks to take a pocket passer who could be the flop of the 2024 draft.
How do you not know the plan? Its as obvious as it can be. Get rid of Kirks massive cap hit, reallocate that money into the defense. Draft a rookie QB coming into one of the best offenses in the league for a rookie to be in and hopefully have a well enough rounded defense in a few years with the money saved from Kirks contract. Not hard to understand.
pretty obvious isn't it
Who are they trading up with? Pats and washington shipped out their QBs so they’re not moving, and bears are drafting caleb williams. Cardinals are drafting marvin harrison jr. So maybe chargers at 5? But they could also use a top WR after losing their 2 main guys. Like im sure they wanna trade up but theres nobody in that top 4-5 who’s not gonna wanna trade down and are you really gonna give up multiple firsts for bo nix or jj mccarthy?
Vikings just need to stay where they are, and both will be available. Drake May could also slip to that position. That would be the best spot for him, he needs a lot of work. Not ready to be an NFL starter imo. Sitting for a year, while having another pick in the first round... seems like a possible scenario.
@@dogcatpwexactly, vikings should keep the picks and see who falls to them at 11. Especially because i don’t trust my giants to draft a QB and instead double down on the 3 bums we already have so somebody is bound to fall to them at 11 to sit behind darnold a year
If the Giants had that second pick still? I would draft Brock, and hope Vegas doesn't take Penix or Nix. Not having that pick, still doesn't change their need at that position. I still like Brock at this pick. He's versatile. No barkley? They need to add an element to their offence. The Chargers are also picking a WR, so Rome or Brock? The guys you got need help to win a game. Lower tier QB always need to be heavily supplemented. Pats should pick Harrisson if they were smart. They get a QB in the early second. GM's fall for hype over value too often when building a team.
They're going to trade up with the Cardinals or Chargers. They can't risk anyone jumping them like the Broncos for JJ.
They may trade for Justin Herbert. Harbaugh wants McCarthy..
Come on. Darnold was the 'Just in case' option the moment they signed him. If things go well he's a decent back up, if they go badly he's a decent back up.
Patriots should trade 3 to Minnesota for both 1st rounders this year and Minnesota 1st rounder 2025 and BUILD THIS TEAM! Take qb at 11, take a tackle at 23, take a WR 2nd round and maybe trade Minnesota 1st 2025 for Aiyuk. Perfect situation‼️
If you could take a QB at 11 then why wouldn’t the Vikings just do that and keep their other 1st rounder instead of trading them both to the pats?
@@Other_Robots if they want one of the top 3 guys then they trade up for that and maybe the Pats can take JJ or wait for Penix/Nix at 23
@@Asdfjkloi JJ isn't dropping past 4. A team like the Broncos are going to move up for JJ because they're going to see an opportunity.
vikings arent giving up 3 first rounders only 2 11 and 23 and a future 3rd vikings would be getting fleeced if they add one
@@juliusjean-baptiste924 fasho
They aren’t trading for Herbert stop. Vikings don’t want another high priced qb that can’t win anything not to mention won’t chargers take a planet sized cap it ?
Stop it get some help 😂
I think he meant Justin Fields
@@rwmorey71 more of a comment to all the fans wanting Herbert for some dumb reason 🤪
True. I mean, what exactly has Herbert achieved, besides being injured
The Vikings most likely nosed around this past month and talked with potential trade partners to get a picture of what it would take to move up. I am guessing that at least one potential partner in the top 4 or 5 picks said two first rounders this year to make the deal.
Close your eyes…which voice is Kirk’s and which is TJs?
How can anyone still not see what the Vikings are doing?
Because it always ends the same 😂
Vikings possibly going to trade for Herbert. Harbaugh may draft McCarthy.
Putting a QB behind a bad offensive line with mediocre weapons to throw to is the surest way to ruin a young QB. Some QBs are able to maintain their confidence but many never regain it e.g. Mac Jones.
When are the Vikings going to start looking for cornerbacks in free agency? That's been a major weakness of ours for a long time and it would be nice to get some starts in there that can lock someone down
Xavien Howard real soon
NE can take Bo Nix or another at 11 or wait until next year if they are near the top of round 1 next year.
They are…they are jumping a head of the Giants. I bet they draft JJ. The Patriots are not trading from 3 to 11 because they also need a quarterback.
Interesting situation. The Vikings could move up with basically three firsts. The question becomes who would fall to the Vikings at 11? If the Vikings feel their guy would be gone by then, they will trade up and pay the price. Niners did it a couple of years ago and drafted Trey Lance. Look at how that worked out. Vikings should be able to get JJ, Nix, or Penix at 11. If I was the Chargers, I would trade back for two firsts.
The 49ers are a Superbowl team....thats how it worked out!!
Seems more likely that the Chargers trade down with the Vikings since they have Herbert. Also some reports have the Giants taking a QB, so the Vikings can leap frog the Giants and take their guy.
DO NOT TRADE UP, it’s been proven that it almost never works out, Ej Manuel,Lance, Zach Wilson just to name a few…
You could also name several times where the teams got franchise QB's. Bad argument
Patrick Mahommes. Argument invalid
You keep saying New England has a bad roster no they had a bad offensive coaching staff n bad personnel. Their D is like that
If I was the Pats GM. I would take Marvin Harrisson jr. This will cause a run on WR getting taken. Cards, Bolts, maybe Giants. Vikes, Broncos take May and Mcarthy. Penix or Nix get taken by the Raiders... you have the 34th pick. You will have a high probability of getting both. You pick a QB first... you miss the point. There is better value with Harrison, than with any other QB not named Caleb, or Jayden.
In both, I meant the best player, and a second tier QB. You need to get your weaker prospect help. May will be an absolute bust if Pats pick him here. This would be a huge mistake.
No way New England trades it for anything less than 3 firsts plus more Vikings fans are dreaming if they think it only costs 2 firsts
So I worked at ESPN before and now I work for another company that covers sports. I can say this is them doing all talk. Because in reality they know what everyone genuine with sports knowledge snows. Do you take the shot on the quarterback, because if they work out you're good everything else settles in after.
“We need a quarterback too” bruther you need a LOT more than that. Drafting a QB into that team would be Bryce love level of sabotage
This is not a move you make if you’re the Vikings GM if you haven’t already had conversations with teams at the top and know the price tag. Otherwise he would have waited until draft night to trade for another first…
Maybe…. But nothing is guaranteed
Agreed. I think he's going to trade up before the draft.
Who knew Kirk Morrison was made for TV?
“Every year I pick a favorite team”…
Yeah I’m sorry man, you lost me there.
They have an opportunity to trade up and waste a pick 😂
Harbaugh gets McCarthy and trades Herbert to the Vikings for their 2 first round picks.
00:00 🤔 Understanding and tackling the unknown
00:17 🏈 Discussing the Minnesota Vikings' unclear plan
00:50 💼 Trade analysis: Vikings and Texans make a deal
01:03 🚗 News break while driving: Vikings' strategic move
01:45 📈 Vikings acquire picks, potential draft moves
02:00 🔍 Speculation on Vikings' draft strategy and Patriots' position
02:47 🔄 Trade propositions and rebuilding strategies
03:11 🤷♂ Debating the trade's benefits and risks
03:37 🏆 Recalling recent successful draft strategies
04:01 💡 Highlighting New England's potential roster rebuild needs
04:49 🍹 Warning against drinking the "Kool-Aid" of press statements
05:01 🤔 Reevaluating Sam Darnold's role with the Vikings
05:39 🎲 Vikings' QB options post-trade
06:03 ⏳ Anticipation and speculation leading up to the NFL draft
Key Moments by Agent Gold AI
Nix and Lennox shouldn’t even be in consideration at all
Neither should Caleb Williams
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371Bo Nix is going to get drafted a lot higher than people think. I think the league likes him more than the media
11 and 23 isn't enough to get 3rd pick.
Why isn’t Justin Fields going to New England?
Nobody wants him
Bruh we didn't lose Kirk Cousins, we were never gonna pay him more than a high end bridge ($18M a year, 2 max, $25M guaranteed)
Three 1’s+ more to get to 3?!? GET OUT
Bo Nix? lol any GM drafting Bo Nix in the first round should be fired
Take the man the myth. MPJ!
With that injury history?? No thank you
Vikings are not giving NE 3 first rounders totally nuts
I hope the Patriots trade it and get a King's ransom
I would aim for pick #5 because McCarthy or Nix would be available there and likely not cost 3 first round picks.
Drake or Justin... let's goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Move up for the 2nd pick if not stay at 11 and 23. Get a QB that sits for a year and a starter at the defensive line or cornerback. The team has 100+ million cap space to build out team next year or Go get Justin Herbert lol
Or try to go get Justin
Herbert 😂
No. It’ll never happen Vikings just let go of high priced guy who hasn’t won anything in Kirk like Herbert and the chargers would take like 90 million dollars cap hit so no 😂
Herbert also isn't 36 and coming off an achilles injury. Herbert still has time, Cousin is who he is.
@@darklight6604 so is Herbert. He’s literally Kirk 2.0 lots of stats and nothing to show for it. You know it’s true lol
Justin part of the future bro he staying
I'll pass on other people trash thanks!
11 isn't high enough to make it worth it IMO. They'll be looking at WR scraps, which is not what they need
Give me a break. No one is moving out of the first three picks.
If you're a GM and turn down three first round picks when your roster sucks you won't be a GM for long
@@kevincannon9564Yeah look what Nick Caserio did in that exact same scenario.
Being reluctant to move out of the top3 is the mistake QB needy teams have made and end up convincing themselves to draft guys like Zach Wilson, Bortles, etc
Besides Caled and Daniels I'm not that sold on this class. I think Maye, JJ, Penix, Bo Nix will be decent starters but not elite. I would take 3 first easily
Vikings gunna trade for Herbert
You can have as many picks as you want ACCEPT 2025 first. We need insurance. Not going to be the panthers.
Please not Drake Maye.
Pats will trade down and take Micheal pinnex at 11
won't happen!
Could bo nix fall to 11? 😂
Im guessing he'll fall to like 20 something. I would be PISSED if we spent a 11 overall pick on Nix
@@jeffwhitney3369 don't worry we won't
DreM on
I'm betting the Bears already know what picks they will be getting from Washington and the deal is done. Only waiting on Caleb's pro day and more importantly physical. That's it. When that happens, we will get the haul we have been expecting and Poles is already gauging what he can do with 1.2. He's pitting NE and NYG against Vikes who just worked up some more ammunition to try to convince us. Probably wouldn't have done that without knowing we would trade. Don't be surprised if we end up with 3 firsts next year (Ours Wash and Vikes) and 1.9, 1.11 and 1.23.
Bears are drafting Caleb bud
Who is Caleb Bud? I haven't seen any of his measureables yet.
@@trustory8890
I mean, will Williams even have a Pro Day? Or will he refuse to partake it that, too? The bloke is a sook. He continues to skip everything. Wrong attitude. He's in it for the wrong reasons.
Watch Minnesota trade up to 3 to get Harrison, then trade Jefferson for more picks and the #4 spot to get a QB
I'm super down with that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting! I like it. But I think they'll resign JJ
Duh
God bless! Jesus is the way and saves! Psalms 62✝🤍💪 Jeremiah 29:11 ✝🤍💪
What if the vikings call and say. Here's some picks and jefferson. You have to take that.
Not gonna happen!
They have said Jefferson isn't going anywhere
DUMB. Our GM is dumb enough to make the trade, but he is also dumb enough to trade both 1st rounders for magic beans that are suppose to grow another Tom Brady.
JJ McCarthy not Maye