Don't get me wrong - Candace is absolutely fun to mess around with in world exploration... but I didn't want to sugarcoat things in this video. I love Genshin's gameplay, especially combat and I think we will see her true potential realized maybe some time later down the line.
There was a fun build with Qiqi as a normal attacker infused by Chongyun and buffed by Shenhe and Yunjin. I may try a freeze variant with Candice instead of Chongyun. But I hope there will be a perfect fit for the future.
This!!! If her ult provided a hp-scaling shield she would actually be a good unit. It wouldn't matter that her ult provides lower damage than YunJin, you would instead be given the defensive role of shielder which I feel YunJin is not able to do for someone like Yoimiya. Those little crystallize shards tend to not be enough, meaning you have to bring someone like Zhongli or Diona who are both DPS losses (compared to having an entire free slot for someone like Kazuha).
We have no Hydro and Electro shielder after all.. (Beidou C1 doesn't count) Instead of making them we got an Electro healer with energy problems and a very niche Hydro buffer instead
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 beidou shield definitly counts lol. dont forget, that you also get dmg reduction from ult and that stacks with xingqius dmg reduction. the shield does alot with dmg reduction.
She's a veteran warrior, very strong lore wise, 5 star worthy character design, really good demo trailer and soundtrack. Yet she's 4 star, if that wasn't enough she belongs to the weaker spectrum of 4 stars.
Not even Decent. I made multiple teams for her and all of those. THE BEST Character to replace is HER. like that's just insane. that just means how irrelevant she is. like it's stupid how weak her damage specially that burst. and the videos about her vaping is with a Mona+Kazuha+Klee c2 combo which is UNREALISTIC and literally stupid. Mihoyo really made a bad move here. They should have made her burst explode more frequently. They probably forgot that characters like Xinqui exists that can proc water swords that freaking deal x3 more damage than her mini explosions. also I noticed her explosions are smaller size than Yoimiya's Burst. which is honestly useless in most cases.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 if they made her into a half decent Hydro applicator and shielder she would actually be good. Instead they made her into a Ayato support..?
Agreed. Sara and Gorou are both able to provide something unique and nobody else can, at least at c6. YunJin was another great recent 4 star, but now with Candace it feels like they're trying to make a second YunJin but with lower scaling and it kinda sucks :(
All they gotta do is lower their dmg and they won't be OP. Bennett, xinagling, xingqiu, fischl, and sucrose do high dmg and have high support utility. Either we have high dmg or we have high support utility. That will balance it out while making the new 4 star characters worth building.
@@emptyallen3334 🤣My 160 pulls to get only 2 copies of Sucrose says sod off, I got more 5 stars and weapons in that time than 2 copies on her rate up, this is a stupid joke, give me a damn path, yesterday. XD
I cried because every single time I know it's not worth it but if it's on a 50/50, I cave, now I am guaranteed and 70 into pitty, I just can't take the risk. 😭
Also bennett kazuha and sucrose for buffs. Honestly 40% res shred from VV alone is pretty competitive with her buff yup just double checked. 40% res shred can easily outbuff 40% dmg bonus in many cases. So she's competing with any anemo unit lmfao.
@@Mark-xw5yt I mean thats every support though competing with anemo. No one is increasing dmg enough to sacrifice anemo spot for. When I build a team anemo is my first step and I build around them. Most will lose out when it comes to abyss with multiple enemies as well since that is anemo specialty. The support it provides is too important. Sucrose can give people em, crowd control, buff dmg, and heal if you have prototype amber on all in one character no support can boast that much assist I would say she more important than bennett. They made anemo way too powerful.
@@kennethyoung7457 Yeah anemo units are crazy but I'm only talking about the artifact buff here. An artifact buffs just as much, and often more than she does. Like, her buff just isn't good.
im getting her purely for the fact that she's got an epic design and that she's hydro. that's it - I just want a cool desert character to walk around the desert with
At the first time i got her and saw her kit, i was confused which team i can build. Because u know, Hydro Infusion is not something we see in meta team and most of Hydro Characters is support/burst DPS. I agree with you Candace is not unleashing her true potential now. Hope she will shine in the future because i love her design and her personality in game especially with Dehya
I can see her working with dehya in similar matter as the bloom team he made with Kazuha. If she is EM based and does periodic damage with her abilities a burgeon team with Candace could work.
@@spacedorito9592 they shoulda just put her on nilou banner, atleast she has a small synergy, def wouldnt be the best pair, but would make up nilou's rotation, rounding off the cd on nilou skill with her burst.
I'd just put her along with Beidou and Yunjin for the cool parries. And idk if their burst overlaps, but if it doesn't then its probably a good taser/parry team. Its probably not great for abyss, but its great for bullying bosses and passing the time.
I honestly understand mihoyo not wanting to make op 4 stars but at least make them have a purpose like sara , gorou , yunjin and heizou and the most ironic part is that she uses a shield but cant even give shields to other characters..
to be fair tho for the second point it's not like zhongli or diona have a physical buckler or smething that they pass on to other characters so if candace were to have shielding capabilities, it would most likely have to be an elemental shield
@@ghotifish1838 just create a skill linked to the shield, like "when activating the shield and receiving the attacks and blocking them, the shield will create a hydro shield for everyone on the team based on 25% of her HP
I get Hoyo is trying to curb power creep as much as possible but she honestly deserved better. Just her design alone she looks like she's supposed to be a good dps
She is good main dps, in solo runs she does higher damage than Childe and has pretty high survivality due to high hp and shield. She might be weak as support, but as 4* main dps she is quite good
@@God_abandoned_us_all i honestly think she made to support herself as dmg dealer rather than support unit. I wonder if hod can buff her normal during her burst.
I agree. Like I'm going to keep her in my team just to walk around and stare at her, but I'm not about to waste resources and time on her when her actual capabilities are so ehh
Character design of new 4*s: 📈📈 Power level of new 4*s: 📉📉 Literally though, I've never seen anyone say that they like bennett and xiangling's designs. I've seen some xingqiu fans but majority thinks he looks weird lol Edit: Before anyone gets mad don't get me wrong I'm not saying *I* don't like their designs. I was just stating what I've observed. Bennett is literally my first gacha character so i love him and thought he was a boy mechanic when I first saw his splash art lol. And xiangling kinda reminds me of xiaoyu (I don't play tekken I just remember a movie I watched lol). I think xingqiu looks good in illustrations but his in-game model did him dirty. Can't be denied that the newer 4*s have 5* designs though.
I doubt. there would be something that would make her good. If she just doesn't apply hydro infusion she would have been insane. but with Nilou I think she might work. potentially if we get a dendro that heals.
Yeah I also feel like that will be the case. Nilou loves bloom and with only her own abilities probably doesn't get enough hydro application. With Candace hydro infusion I can see Nilou easily being a Hydro Bloom dps.
This seems to be the case with newer 4 stars. Hopefully with the new Hydro resonance and future characters, we'll see her full potential and play style. I also wonder if Chongyun will find uses later, as well as Bennett c6 and a possible future electro infuser
eh with good supports chong is pretty strong (especially shenhe/kazuha), i got him crowned , able to clear pretty much any chamber in one minute each , but yeah , ig he is pretty underwhelming if ya compare to the other early op 4*
@@layss7483 yeah yeah I understand that. He was strong in national for a reason. I'm just wondering if we'll ever get to see a character that can fully utilize an infusion from another character Similar to how Diluc plays with Chong and Xingqiu before his burst, would be dope.
@@lukatosic09 oh I don't doubt that. I'm mainly talking about how his cryo infusion itself isn't used all that often. Hopefully a future character can utilize two different elements at once🤔
I think Hoyoverse made candance with the wrong intent. They were too timid to make her numbers high after Hydro Infusion. So they lowered her numbers What came out was a Candace that is just overshadowed by the same mainstay characters (Xingqiu, Bennet, Xiangling) She doesn't even do much better than niche characters. For example: Candace is great with Ayato due to her Normal/Charged attack buff. Plus Water Infusion. Yunjin- Another Normal/Charged attack buffer Does Candace's work better than her! Yunjin is GEO and she 'RESONATES' better than Hydro Candance!!!? Whyyyyy- (I am distressing) She isn't even the best in her specifc areas And she doesnt have enough versatility (Like Kuki with dendro/healing) to replace anyone. I LOVE her design, her trailer. I wont say lore or character yet because I haven't seen that yet. But I wish i could at least instakill hilichurls with her! or Two shot them with her ACHILLES martial arts! Please Hoyo! I want a *Strong Female Water Bending Egyptian Achilles!*
i farmed everything for cyno but i lost the 50/50 so i decided i want to save it for scaramouche and now i have so many talent books that i will make candace a main dps, i dont care if she does little dmg, its pretty fun using her with yelan yunjin and zhongli!
I'm doing the same with Yelan Yunjin and VV Jean. Seems like it'll be one of those "fine outside of floor 12" teams for me which is plenty for me since I actually get to enjoy her on field a lot
Even if she's not meta, I still plan on trying to pull her because I liked playing her demo. She's not ground breaking or anything but I imagine I'd use her in an overworld team.
me too! her counter mechanic is super fun! (i tried to become a beidou main at some point if that explains that lol) and i am considering using her as a support for yanfei
Well who is she going to support in the first place? The only character that deals elemental normal attack is just Ayato... maybe Childe too but she is extremely niche. Just like how Thoma was to Hu Tao. Might as well build her full dps so she can at least do stuff and we can have fun with her 🤣
You mentioned yun jin a lot but I found that running ayato with both Candace and yun jin and c2 Jean or any other attack speed providing character is a fun force multiplier. Doing 30k every 1/4th of a second is fun af.
I believe Nilou will greatly appreciate Candace since she's so restrictive. Also because Nilou generates her very own cores, Candace's c6 will not be a problem, which is neat. Let's hope Candace just has untapped potential
I am kinda hoping that she will work with Dehya when she finally releases. With Dehya being pyro and a close friend to Candace I hope that they will have some synergy. Not holding my breath though.
Some options on how to fix Candace: 1: Make her E produce Hydro Shield. 2: Make her E generate energy. Energy generated depends on how many attacks are blocked. Timeful block gives extra energy. 3: Make her Burst heals everytime a character is switched. 4: Make her Burst gives extra Hydro particles when teammate deals elemental NA. 5. Make her E gives some stacks everytime she blocks. When she use burst, consume those stacks and buff the burst accordingly.
I was hype for our 1st hydro polearm, not to mention she's really gorgeous. However her kit feels.... scuffed. Also she's the only character to wield an actual physical shield, MAKE HER USE IT OBNOXIOUSLY!! Make her burst a hydro version of Xinyan's shield and make it either have the ripple effect of the hydro duck mimics or launch waves like the hydro crane mimics (all the damage and the shield scale with HP ofc)
Why would you infuse Ayaka with hydro if the whole point of her kit that makes her shine is the fact that she can infuse cryo on her sword really easily?
@@Zorlexon iirc candice buff (dmg up ?) applies to all element infusion. but i am not sure it works on charge attack too, keqing & ayaka mostly use charge attack.
I’m happy with the sumeru 4 stars so far. They may not be particularly great but they are fun and I appreciate being able to make new teams with them. Thinking of trying Candice/Kaeya freeze team or something.
I love how yelan came out and everyone made their "IS GENSHIN IMPACT FALLING VICTIM TO POWER CREEP???" videos and then hoyo put out like 7 mid units in a row
Thing is she didn't even actually powercreep xq. He still has better application and they still can exist at the same time without taking each other's spotlight
@@pyronado4320 Yelan and XQ has the same hydro application if you whale for Yelan either is C2 or C4, can't recall. Yelan gets an additional dice hit that scales with her max HP and has separate ICD, and activates every 1.8 seconds when attacking
The only “fun” part of her kit is that her “shield attacks” actually shatters frozen enemies like claymore attacks, i just find it amusing. At the moment, she doesn’t really do anything significant. It’s like they wanted to make a character that has team infusion for hydro, and makes her entire kit to be just that. Just crossing the list of infusion here, pyro, cryo, and hydro crossed off.
I really hoped that she could be used like you would use counter beidou. But It's exactly the same as yunjin. Their dmg for the counter attack is just not even close to beidou. But i do think she can be cool in certain teams, and lets be honest we can make her work even if she isn't the all time best.
I really think hoyoverse is keeping it on the down low when it comes to designing gameplay for 4 stars and they've been introducing more niche and unique passives and gameplay idk maybe it's too early to say the meta game will probably change drastically in the future once we discover better teams and future characters
I think the problem with Cyno and Candace is that they seem to be designed to work with characters that aren't released yet as they seem very dependant on having dendro support.
Most likely these new 4 stars will just be outdone by a new 5 star support anyway in the future their ain't much hope for some of these 4 star characters. Why use most 4 star supports when kazuha, raiden, mona, yelan, zhongli exist
Meta will hardly change in reverse powercreep system, since earlier units are way stronger than the later. We can only hope the 4 and 5 stars from snezhnaya are at least half of inazuma 4 stars strength, cause looking at this pattern, snezhnaya 4 star gonna have 120 energy burst, with damage less than kuki skill.
I've been using Candace with Hu Tao, and it actually kinda made sense. Hu Tao's pyro buff with her skill overrides any other elemental infusion, so the only thing going to Hu Tao is the elemental damage buff from Candace's burst and her talent. I've been going Zhong, Hu Tao, Candace, and Xing but I really want Yelan because I think that it'll make more since. Otherwise, her use is kinda iffy but she's been doing pretty well with the team I have so far.
She feels like a strange lovechild between Yun jin and Xingqiu (at c6). I think she might be useful to run in the Hu/Yelan team* and replace Xingqiu (not because its better) but because it frees Xingqiu up for another team *(Assuming you don't have c1 Hu who only charge attacks)
Design wise when I got her I was kinda confused why she's a 4 star then I started using her and now she is underwhelming. It would have been better is she works as an actual shielder especially on her burst. I'm still hoping she could work well with Nilou though coz not using her is kinda sad.
she is strange for me too, she is like a hydro yun jin that can be played at talent 1-1-1 XD i think her best for now comes with yelan u have extra Hp for both of them and the main attaccker do the rest, for now i'm trying to play her with noelle goro yelan and she is like a "cheap" mona with 12 duration sec instead of 8 sec,
Might wanna revisit once Nilou is out, I havent been too up-to-date with the leaks but since she (Nilou) is a Hydro sword user she might work well with Candace... Just some food for thought...
I really love her design and so disappointed in her kit. I will still build her and use her though. Hopefully she will get a buff or something in the future
The number 1 team I have in mind that uses her is Razor, Candace, Kazuha, and Dendro Traveler for hyperbloom Razor. Infusing Razor's normal attacks with hydro will allow him to deal both hydro and electro dmg during his burst and Kazuha can vv shred both elements while also giving Razor hydro and electro dmg bonus. Using this team, you only need to focus on stacking Razor with em and Rainslasher fits perfectly as Razor's weapon.
I feel like all for the 3.1 char release, they'll work best when new dendro characters are released in the future. Mainly nahida. So all the character released now are just preparation for the release of the dendro archon
I mean... it makes too much sense. Also consider all our dendro appliers up to and including nahida are all bow or catalyst as to not interfere with Candace's infusion
@@pr0ntab I wish that when they release future characters especially 5 stars, they also consider the compatibility with previously released characters. Yeah, we're all still gonna pull for newly released 5 stars, but i they dont have to make it too obvious that the new chars will only work well with their future chars. Based on nilou's leaks, it seems she'll be that way also. Even cyno will need a support or enabler that can keep up with his long on field burst time to for maximum damage output
@@vince7202 it's almost like they don't want you to use noblesse buff and instead tenacity via kuki (with constellation to make it last long enough) or ... Raiden? If Cyno had an interruptable burst I would be way more invested, although if they did it would probably be c1 locked knowing them and arrghh they're too clever I wish they'd make more "mistakes"
I've been running her as an on-field Hydro applicator for hyperbloom and it's pretty decent 1st unit - Candace 2nd unit - Dendro Traveller or Collei 3rd unit - Full EM Raiden or Kuki for Hyperbloom 4th unit - Xinqiu, Yelan or Kokomi for additional hydro application and hydro resonance Use Kuki or Kokomi for healing needs
I just hate that a lot of the good looking characters end up being 4 star and turn out either trash or mid, then you have all the generic looking ones as 5 stars while being op. If they swapped Dehya and Noelle's rarity it would pretty much be confirmed that was their intention all along.
Omg yeah Dehya is soooo generic :( I was so sure she was a 4* when I saw her. She looks like a typical basic tough, stoic, "badass" punk warrior girl with the most cliche color scheme on top of an uninspiring design.
I'm really sad they did her dirty with her Ult duration. Xingqiu and the starter 4*s are stronger than the current ones because Hoyoverse learned their lesson in not making 4* powerful units: either great in a niche or clunky unless investment is given. It's in a gacha game's nature, after all.
i think she could be a good pairing with nilou. instead of infusing nilou's normal attacks with her own E, activate the hydro ring using nilou and use candace to give her hydro infusion instead. both characters scale on hp and can help each other with hydro resonance, and with nilou's ring + candace's infusion there will be a higher rate of hydro application and hence multi mega blooms (like the barbara bug), since nilou's hydro ring and regular atks/charge all have different ICDs
@@far4955 and the only thing that even "powercreeped" was Yelan, wich not really, bc you could use her and Xinqiu fine. People are always complaining about damage or nicheness and it's like, do you want every character to be OP and not fun to use bc they all do the same?
@@deep_sea_demon Yes, that is what they want because "damage" is everything for them. i.e. those people who doesn't use Zhongli because he is a "dps loss" lmao
Lets see, releasing niche and unconventional kits that only become useful after 5 versions or so. Atleast kuki was lucky in that regard cause she was released 2 versions before dendro appeared.
Kinda interesting that power creep is usually one of the most complained about problems for gacha games, but when a character comes out that's comparable or a bit weaker to current units it's like, welp, this one's a waste
She's not weaker, she just has no use case. Gorou and Sara are "weaker" than Benett, but still provide valuable niche buffs. She isn't the case. Also, yeah? That's how human behavior works, people will go through the path of least resistance, and resources are limited. Not everyone started day 1 like I did.
Ive notice people tend to overlook how strong the scalings on her normal attacks are. I feel like with the right team and set she can be a solid main dps. I atill dont have her maxed but candace, Benny, Yunjin, and either zhongli or better Thoma for vapes would get her a lot of normal attack buffs and power. Shes only 49 for me atm and unleveled artofacts but her normal attaxks are increasing close to 10x in damage for me woth her, yunjin, and benny buffs
I don't care about her usability or meta potential. I like her design and her EN voice is just chef's kiss. I'm gonna max the crap out of her and use her to buff my Yoimiya along with Yelan and Yun Jin
Most healthy answer for Gachas IMO 😂 I am nowhere endgame, but the design and overall gameplay feel matter much more to me than faster clear times. The meta mentality on gacha games is always so rough even if someone is useable... Where is the fun in everyone using the same few chars? Bit slower grind is worth the style doing it 😊
I pulled her just only to satisfied my horniness but people here don't even notice that her buff can be used anywhere as long as its a "Elemental normal attack". so Kokomi is the best one to pair with her not these and those who could use Yunjin.
I have a C1 Candace, but I haven't used her yet except in Hayakunin Ikki where I got to use a better invested version. I am just happy to have more Hydro characters in my roster with recent addition of Candace and Nilou to complement my Xingqiu and Barbara.
A 9 second buff that wants you to cycle through your team and then normal attack with the last character... I fail to see what Mihoyo wants her to do with that.
In the night i have the weird idea to build her as carry with Kazuha, Bennett and Xiangling, with Homa Staff, was something just for fun, until she did a crit of 90k, and i was like... WTF!.
So... TL;DR she's a character with no purpose at all, since YunJin buff is stronger, and Kazuha provides a "similar" buff, but not only for Normal Attacks, but also for all elementla dmg Even worse, she doesn't provide anything outside a rather low value buff, compared to other characters which people might already have well developed
She has a purpose no other character can replicate. She infuses your character's normal attack with hydro. It being usefull depends on the person. While I dont see her as top tier, she will create new possibilities others cant replicate and perhaps in the future she might jump up a tier. Just like how people trashed Kokomi and Kuki because they were less viable at the start because what they offered were niche compared to other existing characters, yet now they have their own role not many can replicate. Fischl cant replicate Kuki. Mona cant replicate Kokomi. Yunjin cant replicate Candace.
@@michaelshahoe who would benefit this hydro infusion? ayato has his own infusion and just use yunjin for more buff. and for others characters, you will butcher them by puting hydro cup on them? again, non-existent purpose.
@@DanceTowaDance same was said with Kokomi and Kuki, people enjoy jumping to conclusion immediately and than later on a niche character manages to be viable.
I'd use qiqi or jean because their build on pure atk stats yet their element would prove to be useful for hydro related. A bit example is your kazuha candace. As for zhongli, he need to be left out because he is geo
Did you all know that Hoyoverse started releasing 3* characters coated as 4*? It started since 2.0.. Just to make us believe that there's another roaster of characters added to make the community excited. Same can be applied to 5* too.
“I mean why would they give Candace a short duration if it’s her best selling point?” *comparing to XQ and Yelan It’s because she’s not Chinese and HYV is bias with Chinese characters lol
@@KrisPBacon69 true but to be fair they were the earliest characters so they had to have good if not best kits. Who was the last 4 star in liyue? Yunjin? She’s good and she was so hyped bec of her origins in Chinese opera (which was nice though) and before yunjin, I believe it was yanfei and yanfei cons are really good. She’s underrated but her kit is really strong. So yes, I still stand that Chinese/liyue char are always treated with bias. And I’m not mad about it coz this is a Chinese game. Just stating facts won’t hurt it. Also, the last liyue 5 star was shenhe, though not as famous coz she’s niche support, she’s too tier support for freeze teams.
With my experience with Kokomi and Yae where they just aged like fine wine, Candace is probably going to be useful when later characters releases. Comparatively, still a good kit when compared to on-release Inazuman 4-stars in my opinion.
aren’t Chinese and Japanese ppl “POC”? that label (POC) is used to exclude White people(European descent) in particular a part of arsenal in the game of victimhood, therefore 89% or more(because Monstadt is small) of Genshin currently is “POC”
Too bad Cyno is middling and Candace is suboptimal. Kaeya's pretty decent but his constellations are hard to obtain, and Xinyan has split-scaling. Seems they hate people like us.
Finally I've been waiting for this!!! i can now give my lvl 90 dendro traveler a main dps build since he doesn't need em and make him spawn in alot of blooms and add em kuki to the team and bam😎.
@@Azaleaaah That’s true… Kokomi would probably have to be the best option for that role then. Frankly, I see Nilou, Candace, Nahida (or Dendro Traveler), and Kokomi being a viable bloom team.
Hoh boy, Dehya's gonna be a catstrophe. I get it, they really want to make a point for 5* to be desireable but.. that doesn't mean you should neglect the 4* to the point where they can easily be replaced by characters that came before them.
@@fastao4219 Source? Because all leaks that claim she is a 5-star date 2 month back, shorty after new leaks have corrected them being a 4-star. Nothing new has come to light until then.
@@EtherealRune you got the order wrong, she was first leaked as 4*, and later Uncle Lu confirmed that she always was a 5-star. You can search for the SaveYourPrimos' Upcoming banners carrd where they compile future banners, and she is listed as 5* releasing on 3.5, along with the sources.
@@fastao4219 No, the order is correct - As well as it's not confirmed, it's still speculative with no evidence what-so-ever speaking for either side. It's just 2 people claiming the opposite now.
HoYoVerse is definitely thinking far ahead I imagine(similarly to Xinyan/Thoma Burgeon, Lisa Quicken, or Kuki Hyperbloom), but of course, we’re not keen on what they have for future patches but, imo, I’m sure it’ll all come together eventually. I definitely think these newer 4* stars are meant to be paired with certain characters, not niches necessarily. So Imma bet they’ll have some future banner characters that’ll pair extremely well with Candace. 🤷🏻♂️
I saw a video of her where she was built for charged attacks using xiangling and kazuha as off field pyro applicators. She was dealing around 100k vape damage per charged atk, kinda like hutao. Thoughts?
You might be thinking of LACola's video, where he has a crowned c6 Candace with r5 Staff of Homa and god-like artifacts. I think at those levels of investment she can be played as a 4* hydro Hu Tao. Still not as good due to various factors, but a decent replacement.
Nerf Bennentt, Xingqui, Fischl, Sucrose and Xiangling. There, balancing issues have been succesfully solved and all 4 stars are now at around the same level of power and usefulness.
Ok like- I wanted to get her sm on my main acc, but seeing this I'm kind of glad I am not going to roll for her- but like- maybe she's just here for bloom so she might be a good support for nilou but moving on- this makes me happy bc I finally wont have to risk getting Cyno/Venti for her
with the way Candace's kit is made, im really afraid of the general stigma 4 stars will receive from here on out.. i honestly wouldn't mind if hoyoverse entered powercreep territory a little bit. we need more 4 stars who could actually be used often.
Mihoyo unironically trying everything in their power to remind players “We fucked up with the 1.0 4 stars. DO NOT GET USED TO THAT LEVEL OF POWER FROM 4 STARS.
@@f.b.lagent1113 well you're probably in the minority duh idk about you but others would really like a good value out of their primos, not another shiny utter garbage for 1600 primos
Not trying to talk her up or anything, but aren't we looking at her kit wrong? Yes she scales with HP, but she also has some of the biggest normal attack multipliers of all polearm characters. Doesn't it make sense to capitalize on that, and build her as a main/sub dps with optional support capabilities? Going all in on HP only gives you diminishing returns and she already has easy access to HP through her ascension stat and hydro resonance. I mean she even says herself that she must also wield a spear and not just a shield, basically telling us not to focus on a single stat 😅
Don't get me wrong - Candace is absolutely fun to mess around with in world exploration... but I didn't want to sugarcoat things in this video. I love Genshin's gameplay, especially combat and I think we will see her true potential realized maybe some time later down the line.
The second I see the words ''world exploration'' I understand that that character is most likely trash.
Copium ....
There was a fun build with Qiqi as a normal attacker infused by Chongyun and buffed by Shenhe and Yunjin. I may try a freeze variant with Candice instead of Chongyun. But I hope there will be a perfect fit for the future.
He's not going to sugarcoat it
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They could’ve at least given her a shielding ability to protect your dps seeing as oh idk SHE ACTUALLY USES A SHIELD
This!!! If her ult provided a hp-scaling shield she would actually be a good unit. It wouldn't matter that her ult provides lower damage than YunJin, you would instead be given the defensive role of shielder which I feel YunJin is not able to do for someone like Yoimiya. Those little crystallize shards tend to not be enough, meaning you have to bring someone like Zhongli or Diona who are both DPS losses (compared to having an entire free slot for someone like Kazuha).
We have no Hydro and Electro shielder after all.. (Beidou C1 doesn't count)
Instead of making them we got an Electro healer with energy problems and a very niche Hydro buffer instead
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 we don't have an anemo shielder either :(
Resistance to interruption or dmg reduction would help as well
@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 beidou shield definitly counts lol. dont forget, that you also get dmg reduction from ult and that stacks with xingqius dmg reduction. the shield does alot with dmg reduction.
She's a veteran warrior, very strong lore wise, 5 star worthy character design, really good demo trailer and soundtrack.
Yet she's 4 star, if that wasn't enough she belongs to the weaker spectrum of 4 stars.
She got the Sara treatment but waaaaay worse.
Not even Decent. I made multiple teams for her and all of those. THE BEST Character to replace is HER. like that's just insane. that just means how irrelevant she is. like it's stupid how weak her damage specially that burst. and the videos about her vaping is with a Mona+Kazuha+Klee c2 combo which is UNREALISTIC and literally stupid.
Mihoyo really made a bad move here. They should have made her burst explode more frequently. They probably forgot that characters like Xinqui exists that can proc water swords that freaking deal x3 more damage than her mini explosions. also I noticed her explosions are smaller size than Yoimiya's Burst. which is honestly useless in most cases.
@@ssignment yeah at least Sara has personal damage while Yun Jin and Gorou are unrivaled in their niche. Candace on the other hand, just sad
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 yeah players just keep praising niche characters which are useless in most situations, now enjoy your own medicine lol
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 if they made her into a half decent Hydro applicator and shielder she would actually be good. Instead they made her into a Ayato support..?
I understand that hoyo doesn't want to make OP 4 stars like the old ones but at least make them useful like Sara or Gorou.
Agreed. Sara and Gorou are both able to provide something unique and nobody else can, at least at c6. YunJin was another great recent 4 star, but now with Candace it feels like they're trying to make a second YunJin but with lower scaling and it kinda sucks :(
@@bjornnilsson2941 And when you think about it none of the hydro characters synergize with her kit. The catalysts are support, 2 of are bow user.
All they gotta do is lower their dmg and they won't be OP. Bennett, xinagling, xingqiu, fischl, and sucrose do high dmg and have high support utility. Either we have high dmg or we have high support utility. That will balance it out while making the new 4 star characters worth building.
Let’s pretend the old 4 stars are OP
@@zoe4965 they are though
We thought inazuma's 4 stars were bad but sumeru is a whole new level, at this rate they'll release 3 star characters in snezhnaya
on jah
@@void8234 heizou was pretty good in my opinion
@@void8234 Sara i geuss not op but was pretty good
@@void8234 rosaria
@@ghoulsamv274 Sara's good but I guess the problem is just you really have to put thought into how you play these characters.
I love how she looks. But I can't wish for a non-guaranteed unit. 4 stars should have an epitomized path
Malding Twitter users with luck issues below:
same, wouldn’t wanna risk guaranteed 5* just for a what 50% chance and then another 30% chance after that?
yes when thoma first came out i did 150 wishes and didn’t get ONE thoma
@@emptyallen3334 🤣My 160 pulls to get only 2 copies of Sucrose says sod off, I got more 5 stars and weapons in that time than 2 copies on her rate up, this is a stupid joke, give me a damn path, yesterday. XD
I cried because every single time I know it's not worth it but if it's on a 50/50, I cave, now I am guaranteed and 70 into pitty, I just can't take the risk. 😭
She has to compete with shenhe and Yun Jin for buffs, and XQ and Yelan for hydro application... She is too niche right now
Also bennett kazuha and sucrose for buffs. Honestly 40% res shred from VV alone is pretty competitive with her buff
yup just double checked. 40% res shred can easily outbuff 40% dmg bonus in many cases. So she's competing with any anemo unit lmfao.
@@Mark-xw5yt I mean thats every support though competing with anemo. No one is increasing dmg enough to sacrifice anemo spot for. When I build a team anemo is my first step and I build around them. Most will lose out when it comes to abyss with multiple enemies as well since that is anemo specialty. The support it provides is too important. Sucrose can give people em, crowd control, buff dmg, and heal if you have prototype amber on all in one character no support can boast that much assist I would say she more important than bennett. They made anemo way too powerful.
@@kennethyoung7457 Yeah anemo units are crazy but I'm only talking about the artifact buff here. An artifact buffs just as much, and often more than she does. Like, her buff just isn't good.
mmmmmmm
Cuz shes meant to be for a hydro DPS that uses melee and as a bloom enabler for nilou
im getting her purely for the fact that she's got an epic design and that she's hydro. that's it - I just want a cool desert character to walk around the desert with
Sameee!!!
Waifu is the meta
@@flowers593 based
Same but she seems fun for co-op like a worse Yun-Jin since no buffing teammates
exactly!
At the first time i got her and saw her kit, i was confused which team i can build. Because u know, Hydro Infusion is not something we see in meta team and most of Hydro Characters is support/burst DPS. I agree with you Candace is not unleashing her true potential now. Hope she will shine in the future because i love her design and her personality in game especially with Dehya
I can see her working with dehya in similar matter as the bloom team he made with Kazuha. If she is EM based and does periodic damage with her abilities a burgeon team with Candace could work.
I can see Candace with Nilou for Bloom team or Keqing for hyperbloom team.
@@spacedorito9592 they shoulda just put her on nilou banner, atleast she has a small synergy, def wouldnt be the best pair, but would make up nilou's rotation, rounding off the cd on nilou skill with her burst.
Well she's the first character that has hydro infusion for the team so yeah we haven't seen that in meta teams 🤣🤣
I'd just put her along with Beidou and Yunjin for the cool parries. And idk if their burst overlaps, but if it doesn't then its probably a good taser/parry team. Its probably not great for abyss, but its great for bullying bosses and passing the time.
I honestly understand mihoyo not wanting to make op 4 stars but at least make them have a purpose like sara , gorou , yunjin and heizou
and the most ironic part is that she uses a shield but cant even give shields to other characters..
to be fair tho for the second point it's not like zhongli or diona have a physical buckler or smething that they pass on to other characters so if candace were to have shielding capabilities, it would most likely have to be an elemental shield
Yoimiya theme is firework, but her normal attack is single target and her ult mark just one enemy
@@ghotifish1838 just create a skill linked to the shield, like "when activating the shield and receiving the attacks and blocking them, the shield will create a hydro shield for everyone on the team based on 25% of her HP
I get Hoyo is trying to curb power creep as much as possible but she honestly deserved better. Just her design alone she looks like she's supposed to be a good dps
Hold skill dmg dealer already. Like yelan but stationary. Also same build as yelan. Sadly not normal atk dmg dealer
She is good main dps, in solo runs she does higher damage than Childe and has pretty high survivality due to high hp and shield. She might be weak as support, but as 4* main dps she is quite good
@@God_abandoned_us_all i honestly think she made to support herself as dmg dealer rather than support unit. I wonder if hod can buff her normal during her burst.
@@wahyuwirawan727 gladiator seems to work, so I think that hod should work too
She's beautiful and all but her kit is like when Thoma and Shinobu first came out. I hope she'll be more useful in the future.
I agree. Like I'm going to keep her in my team just to walk around and stare at her, but I'm not about to waste resources and time on her when her actual capabilities are so ehh
Kuki is more useful from the get go as a support wdym
@@swivelkeyring3512 I don't have her so I really can't say anything on that, but I was talking about Candace
@@shutian20 literally same thing I’m going to do LOL, luckily my other characters are already OP so she can be there just for eye candy
And mind you Thoma and Shinobu are still not great lmao.
Hell, Tankfei provides a better shield than Thoma. They did my boy so dirty.
Character design of new 4*s: 📈📈
Power level of new 4*s: 📉📉
Literally though, I've never seen anyone say that they like bennett and xiangling's designs. I've seen some xingqiu fans but majority thinks he looks weird lol
Edit: Before anyone gets mad don't get me wrong I'm not saying *I* don't like their designs. I was just stating what I've observed. Bennett is literally my first gacha character so i love him and thought he was a boy mechanic when I first saw his splash art lol. And xiangling kinda reminds me of xiaoyu (I don't play tekken I just remember a movie I watched lol). I think xingqiu looks good in illustrations but his in-game model did him dirty. Can't be denied that the newer 4*s have 5* designs though.
I like xianglings design... but my poor boy Bennett
Looking like a whole clown out here
I'm just glad Bennett isn't wearing the adveturer's guild uniform instead 😂
@@hollalaland dude has cargo shorts and a sleevless shirts and he gets called a clown. You're the clown here.
@@stevedoe8622 yeah. Cargo shorts bro. cARGO SHORTS
@@hollalaland he's a teenager that likes to explore. I guessed they should have given him a tuxedo and a fedora
I love her enough to wait till a new 5 star character synergizes perfectly with her, and pull for them. All for Candace.
I doubt. there would be something that would make her good. If she just doesn't apply hydro infusion she would have been insane.
but with Nilou I think she might work. potentially if we get a dendro that heals.
@@marclenraymagdaraog691 she would work well if we had a dendro applier
She already has 2 separate rate ups 😂
@@caseyimiller yeah I have her at C2, now will wait for a good 5 star
A 5star who is bad without hydro infusion? Feels like cope but I'll be waiting too
I feel like she was designed to work with Bloom in mind. So she might be an excellent support for Nilou
A support that supports another support. Just great...
@@Sergmanny46 Nilou isn’t really a support tho, she’s a bloom dps
@@Sergmanny46 I mean most teams only have one damage dealer, and the rest are supports for the most part.
Yeah I also feel like that will be the case. Nilou loves bloom and with only her own abilities probably doesn't get enough hydro application.
With Candace hydro infusion I can see Nilou easily being a Hydro Bloom dps.
@@leila13dnd nilou can literally infuse herself with hydro
She wont need candace
This seems to be the case with newer 4 stars. Hopefully with the new Hydro resonance and future characters, we'll see her full potential and play style.
I also wonder if Chongyun will find uses later, as well as Bennett c6 and a possible future electro infuser
eh with good supports chong is pretty strong (especially shenhe/kazuha), i got him crowned , able to clear pretty much any chamber in one minute each , but yeah , ig he is pretty underwhelming if ya compare to the other early op 4*
I have c6 chongyun and with a proper rotation with Bennett and shenhe you can hit 100k on his burst
@@layss7483 yeah yeah I understand that. He was strong in national for a reason. I'm just wondering if we'll ever get to see a character that can fully utilize an infusion from another character
Similar to how Diluc plays with Chong and Xingqiu before his burst, would be dope.
@@lukatosic09 oh I don't doubt that. I'm mainly talking about how his cryo infusion itself isn't used all that often. Hopefully a future character can utilize two different elements at once🤔
An electro infuser would be awesome for Aggravate Kazuha.
I think Hoyoverse made candance with the wrong intent.
They were too timid to make her numbers high after Hydro Infusion. So they lowered her numbers
What came out was a Candace that is just overshadowed by the same mainstay characters (Xingqiu, Bennet, Xiangling)
She doesn't even do much better than niche characters.
For example: Candace is great with Ayato due to her Normal/Charged attack buff. Plus Water Infusion.
Yunjin- Another Normal/Charged attack buffer
Does Candace's work better than her! Yunjin is GEO and she 'RESONATES' better than Hydro Candance!!!?
Whyyyyy- (I am distressing)
She isn't even the best in her specifc areas
And she doesnt have enough versatility (Like Kuki with dendro/healing) to replace anyone.
I LOVE her design, her trailer. I wont say lore or character yet because I haven't seen that yet.
But I wish i could at least instakill hilichurls with her! or Two shot them with her ACHILLES martial arts!
Please Hoyo!
I want a *Strong Female Water Bending Egyptian Achilles!*
Hyv did her bad. She's so beautiful but has a garbage kit compared to others 4*. F*ck Hoyoverse. I'm so pissed with this company.
Agree so much
she's not egyptian
@@深夜-l9f her design is obviously inspired by egypt though
@@深夜-l9f I say Egyptian due to her Egyptian ornaments from Yu-gi-oh
Candace gives 20% dmg bonus to Ayato normal attacks
Meanwhile Xingqiu: Gives hydro resistance shred and strong off field DPS and heal
Xingqiu is not fun to play bro...but Candace is 😁
@@clock2959 Literally what is the difference lol, you just use e on both then ult and switch off. Literally the same thing.
@@clock2959 what
@@clock2959 *stares in press E and ult*
@@sleebees except she's hot.
i farmed everything for cyno but i lost the 50/50 so i decided i want to save it for scaramouche and now i have so many talent books that i will make candace a main dps, i dont care if she does little dmg, its pretty fun using her with yelan yunjin and zhongli!
Would be hilarious if we end up killing Scaramouche
Good for yuh
I want Xingqiu
I'm doing the same with Yelan Yunjin and VV Jean. Seems like it'll be one of those "fine outside of floor 12" teams for me which is plenty for me since I actually get to enjoy her on field a lot
You have 16 days for Cyno
Even if she's not meta, I still plan on trying to pull her because I liked playing her demo. She's not ground breaking or anything but I imagine I'd use her in an overworld team.
Update: I got her :D
Congrats! Me 2... i honestly dont care about damage, hydro infusion is something new and i just wanna try it out...
me too! her counter mechanic is super fun! (i tried to become a beidou main at some point if that explains that lol) and i am considering using her as a support for yanfei
She was the very first thing I got in this update. I'm very happy to have her
Mihoyo: "This character is a support."
Me: "Right...proceeds to build them as dps muahahahaha!!"
Chad mentality lmao
Well who is she going to support in the first place? The only character that deals elemental normal attack is just Ayato... maybe Childe too but she is extremely niche. Just like how Thoma was to Hu Tao. Might as well build her full dps so she can at least do stuff and we can have fun with her 🤣
@@ra6765 yanfei would maybe work for vapes plus na buffs
@@beatrice7778 Yanfei does charged attacks for the big numbers, so NA buffs don't work for her (unless you're a psychopath who built NA Yanfei).
@@ra6765 yoimiya and noelle also does elemental normal attacks
You mentioned yun jin a lot but I found that running ayato with both Candace and yun jin and c2 Jean or any other attack speed providing character is a fun force multiplier. Doing 30k every 1/4th of a second is fun af.
I believe Nilou will greatly appreciate Candace since she's so restrictive. Also because Nilou generates her very own cores, Candace's c6 will not be a problem, which is neat. Let's hope Candace just has untapped potential
I am kinda hoping that she will work with Dehya when she finally releases. With Dehya being pyro and a close friend to Candace I hope that they will have some synergy. Not holding my breath though.
I still remember how bummed I was when I found that Ayaka, Ayato, and Thoma doesn't synergize with one another
@@neruteru can't ayato and ayaka perma freeze with their burst?
@@nothingyeteverything6081 that'll def work if you use Ayato as a burst supp
@@neruteru actually Ayato and Thoma has a team together and I think its called Thomato (their name and also cause you need dendro)
@@Azaleaaah omg thomato sounds so cute 😭
Your videos butter my biscuits thank you
HUH
That sounds very wrong.
Some options on how to fix Candace:
1: Make her E produce Hydro Shield.
2: Make her E generate energy. Energy generated depends on how many attacks are blocked. Timeful block gives extra energy.
3: Make her Burst heals everytime a character is switched.
4: Make her Burst gives extra Hydro particles when teammate deals elemental NA.
5. Make her E gives some stacks everytime she blocks. When she use burst, consume those stacks and buff the burst accordingly.
I was hype for our 1st hydro polearm, not to mention she's really gorgeous. However her kit feels.... scuffed.
Also she's the only character to wield an actual physical shield, MAKE HER USE IT OBNOXIOUSLY!! Make her burst a hydro version of Xinyan's shield and make it either have the ripple effect of the hydro duck mimics or launch waves like the hydro crane mimics (all the damage and the shield scale with HP ofc)
I feel like a team with ayaka, candace, some er hydro support like Xingxiu and diona/venti would be really fun
Why would you infuse Ayaka with hydro if the whole point of her kit that makes her shine is the fact that she can infuse cryo on her sword really easily?
@@Zorlexon because you can infuse her with hydro then cryo and just go wild
@@Zorlexon iirc candice buff (dmg up ?) applies to all element infusion.
but i am not sure it works on charge attack too, keqing & ayaka mostly use charge attack.
@@dhaniapril4207 only normal attacks, so its pretty niche, she's just a hydro yun jin, im really sad i love hydro and wanted to use her
@@evertonflores8670 oh dang that's a bummer
Less known fact - her second normal attack is heavy attack which means she is second fastest minerals/rock breaker of all polearm wielders :)
I’m happy with the sumeru 4 stars so far. They may not be particularly great but they are fun and I appreciate being able to make new teams with them. Thinking of trying Candice/Kaeya freeze team or something.
Bro sumeru is already huge but we getting at least another area because we missing 90 dendroculus from the total count. So far update is a big W.
yep imo desert feels very small to me... maybe they'll extend the desert in a future update
I love how yelan came out and everyone made their "IS GENSHIN IMPACT FALLING VICTIM TO POWER CREEP???" videos and then hoyo put out like 7 mid units in a row
Not heizou thoughhh
Thing is she didn't even actually powercreep xq. He still has better application and they still can exist at the same time without taking each other's spotlight
@@pyronado4320 Yelan and XQ has the same hydro application if you whale for Yelan either is C2 or C4, can't recall. Yelan gets an additional dice hit that scales with her max HP and has separate ICD, and activates every 1.8 seconds when attacking
She's liyue characters, a secret police like character at that. No way hoyoverse will make her a below S tier unit lol.
@@GodJihyoou heizou is fine. Like strictly okay. Better than the other recent 4 stars but not great
she's so pretty and have very detailed design. thats enough for me
The only “fun” part of her kit is that her “shield attacks” actually shatters frozen enemies like claymore attacks, i just find it amusing. At the moment, she doesn’t really do anything significant. It’s like they wanted to make a character that has team infusion for hydro, and makes her entire kit to be just that. Just crossing the list of infusion here, pyro, cryo, and hydro crossed off.
Liyue 4 stars are just amazing
And fontaine 5 stars are overlowered
I really hoped that she could be used like you would use counter beidou. But It's exactly the same as yunjin. Their dmg for the counter attack is just not even close to beidou. But i do think she can be cool in certain teams, and lets be honest we can make her work even if she isn't the all time best.
I'm using her full support with Raiden, Xinqui and Qiqi. Qiqi being my main dps/healer. It's fun :3 (Farming for Candace is a pain though XD)
I love Qiqi, she was my main dps for a year and I've never had more fun playing lol
@@natiszzz I know right!? You'll never die with Qiqi :3
I really think hoyoverse is keeping it on the down low when it comes to designing gameplay for 4 stars and they've been introducing more niche and unique passives and gameplay
idk maybe it's too early to say the meta game will probably change drastically in the future once we discover better teams and future characters
We will still being using the big three in 5.0 because everyone is scared of power creep in a gatcha
I think the problem with Cyno and Candace is that they seem to be designed to work with characters that aren't released yet as they seem very dependant on having dendro support.
Most likely these new 4 stars will just be outdone by a new 5 star support anyway in the future their ain't much hope for some of these 4 star characters. Why use most 4 star supports when kazuha, raiden, mona, yelan, zhongli exist
mmmm
Meta will hardly change in reverse powercreep system, since earlier units are way stronger than the later. We can only hope the 4 and 5 stars from snezhnaya are at least half of inazuma 4 stars strength, cause looking at this pattern, snezhnaya 4 star gonna have 120 energy burst, with damage less than kuki skill.
I've been using Candace with Hu Tao, and it actually kinda made sense. Hu Tao's pyro buff with her skill overrides any other elemental infusion, so the only thing going to Hu Tao is the elemental damage buff from Candace's burst and her talent. I've been going Zhong, Hu Tao, Candace, and Xing but I really want Yelan because I think that it'll make more since. Otherwise, her use is kinda iffy but she's been doing pretty well with the team I have so far.
She feels like a strange lovechild between Yun jin and Xingqiu (at c6). I think she might be useful to run in the Hu/Yelan team* and replace Xingqiu (not because its better) but because it frees Xingqiu up for another team
*(Assuming you don't have c1 Hu who only charge attacks)
Design wise when I got her I was kinda confused why she's a 4 star then I started using her and now she is underwhelming. It would have been better is she works as an actual shielder especially on her burst. I'm still hoping she could work well with Nilou though coz not using her is kinda sad.
she is strange for me too, she is like a hydro yun jin that can be played at talent 1-1-1 XD i think her best for now comes with yelan u have extra Hp for both of them and the main attaccker do the rest, for now i'm trying to play her with noelle goro yelan and she is like a "cheap" mona with 12 duration sec instead of 8 sec,
Might wanna revisit once Nilou is out, I havent been too up-to-date with the leaks but since she (Nilou) is a Hydro sword user she might work well with Candace...
Just some food for thought...
I really love her design and so disappointed in her kit. I will still build her and use her though. Hopefully she will get a buff or something in the future
The number 1 team I have in mind that uses her is Razor, Candace, Kazuha, and Dendro Traveler for hyperbloom Razor. Infusing Razor's normal attacks with hydro will allow him to deal both hydro and electro dmg during his burst and Kazuha can vv shred both elements while also giving Razor hydro and electro dmg bonus.
Using this team, you only need to focus on stacking Razor with em and Rainslasher fits perfectly as Razor's weapon.
You can also replace Kazuha with Thoma for a Burgeon team. Basically a variation of Thundering Furry
I feel like all for the 3.1 char release, they'll work best when new dendro characters are released in the future. Mainly nahida. So all the character released now are just preparation for the release of the dendro archon
I mean... it makes too much sense. Also consider all our dendro appliers up to and including nahida are all bow or catalyst as to not interfere with Candace's infusion
@@pr0ntab I wish that when they release future characters especially 5 stars, they also consider the compatibility with previously released characters. Yeah, we're all still gonna pull for newly released 5 stars, but i they dont have to make it too obvious that the new chars will only work well with their future chars. Based on nilou's leaks, it seems she'll be that way also. Even cyno will need a support or enabler that can keep up with his long on field burst time to for maximum damage output
@@vince7202 it's almost like they don't want you to use noblesse buff and instead tenacity via kuki (with constellation to make it last long enough) or ... Raiden? If Cyno had an interruptable burst I would be way more invested, although if they did it would probably be c1 locked knowing them and arrghh they're too clever I wish they'd make more "mistakes"
I've been running her as an on-field Hydro applicator for hyperbloom and it's pretty decent
1st unit - Candace
2nd unit - Dendro Traveller or Collei
3rd unit - Full EM Raiden or Kuki for Hyperbloom
4th unit - Xinqiu, Yelan or Kokomi for additional hydro application and hydro resonance
Use Kuki or Kokomi for healing needs
I just hate that a lot of the good looking characters end up being 4 star and turn out either trash or mid, then you have all the generic looking ones as 5 stars while being op.
If they swapped Dehya and Noelle's rarity it would pretty much be confirmed that was their intention all along.
Omg yeah Dehya is soooo generic :( I was so sure she was a 4* when I saw her. She looks like a typical basic tough, stoic, "badass" punk warrior girl with the most cliche color scheme on top of an uninspiring design.
@@RoxasLov3r4Ev3r tbh she reminded me of xinyan when i first saw her
@@RoxasLov3r4Ev3r How do I dislike a comment
@@RoxasLov3r4Ev3r When I saw her leak I predicted she was a 4*, reminds me of Beidou and Xinyan. Idk just me apparently, there's a lot simps for her.
Dehya is generic? Wow, how about saying that everyone has their own taste
Cant wait to see how many people have already triple crowned her
I'm really sad they did her dirty with her Ult duration. Xingqiu and the starter 4*s are stronger than the current ones because Hoyoverse learned their lesson in not making 4* powerful units: either great in a niche or clunky unless investment is given. It's in a gacha game's nature, after all.
i think she could be a good pairing with nilou. instead of infusing nilou's normal attacks with her own E, activate the hydro ring using nilou and use candace to give her hydro infusion instead. both characters scale on hp and can help each other with hydro resonance, and with nilou's ring + candace's infusion there will be a higher rate of hydro application and hence multi mega blooms (like the barbara bug), since nilou's hydro ring and regular atks/charge all have different ICDs
Say it with me, Mihoyo releasing characters with niche and unconventional kits is better than releasing the same broken original 4 stars but reskinned
Heh, with the game being so “anti-powercreeping”, people still always complain about something lel
@@far4955 and the only thing that even "powercreeped" was Yelan, wich not really, bc you could use her and Xinqiu fine.
People are always complaining about damage or nicheness and it's like, do you want every character to be OP and not fun to use bc they all do the same?
@@deep_sea_demon Yes, that is what they want because "damage" is everything for them. i.e. those people who doesn't use Zhongli because he is a "dps loss" lmao
Y’all act like it’s so hard to fucking release another Rosaria or Heizou. This is a new rock bottom, and the bar is on the floor for you.
Lets see, releasing niche and unconventional kits that only become useful after 5 versions or so. Atleast kuki was lucky in that regard cause she was released 2 versions before dendro appeared.
I wasn't ready for how tall she is compared to most characters!
...not complaining, mind you.
Kinda interesting that power creep is usually one of the most complained about problems for gacha games, but when a character comes out that's comparable or a bit weaker to current units it's like, welp, this one's a waste
She's not weaker, she just has no use case. Gorou and Sara are "weaker" than Benett, but still provide valuable niche buffs. She isn't the case. Also, yeah? That's how human behavior works, people will go through the path of least resistance, and resources are limited. Not everyone started day 1 like I did.
Ive notice people tend to overlook how strong the scalings on her normal attacks are. I feel like with the right team and set she can be a solid main dps. I atill dont have her maxed but candace, Benny, Yunjin, and either zhongli or better Thoma for vapes would get her a lot of normal attack buffs and power. Shes only 49 for me atm and unleveled artofacts but her normal attaxks are increasing close to 10x in damage for me woth her, yunjin, and benny buffs
I don't care about her usability or meta potential. I like her design and her EN voice is just chef's kiss. I'm gonna max the crap out of her and use her to buff my Yoimiya along with Yelan and Yun Jin
Most healthy answer for Gachas IMO 😂 I am nowhere endgame, but the design and overall gameplay feel matter much more to me than faster clear times.
The meta mentality on gacha games is always so rough even if someone is useable... Where is the fun in everyone using the same few chars? Bit slower grind is worth the style doing it 😊
This is how it should be. Ignore meta. It's not even worth it.
Thanks for the video man, I was struggling to decide if I should pull her, your video just helped me decide what to do.
Thanks again 😊
I pulled her just only to satisfied my horniness but people here don't even notice that her buff can be used anywhere as long as its a "Elemental normal attack". so Kokomi is the best one to pair with her not these and those who could use Yunjin.
They do. She is still terrible pre-C6.
I have a C1 Candace, but I haven't used her yet except in Hayakunin Ikki where I got to use a better invested version. I am just happy to have more Hydro characters in my roster with recent addition of Candace and Nilou to complement my Xingqiu and Barbara.
A 9 second buff that wants you to cycle through your team and then normal attack with the last character... I fail to see what Mihoyo wants her to do with that.
Idk why, but seeing hydro infused attacks are so satisfying.
I tried her with Ayato and its pretty ok tbh. I used her with yun jin and zhongli on my new ayato team
The developers themselves want you to use the Catch and the Emblem set in a trial run. It's funny, because this will normally work only with С6
She opens up a lot of new team possibilities, I wanna try Kaeya freeze with her.. if only I have her
Kaeya freeze kinda works. You'll need to give him a hydro dmg bonus goblet and a crit dmg sword however.
All we need is Pyro Yelan or Xingqui
or
Pyro Ganyu & Ayato :3
Can you stack yunjin and Candace on the same team with Ayato?🤔
In the night i have the weird idea to build her as carry with Kazuha, Bennett and Xiangling, with Homa Staff, was something just for fun, until she did a crit of 90k, and i was like... WTF!.
So... TL;DR she's a character with no purpose at all, since YunJin buff is stronger, and Kazuha provides a "similar" buff, but not only for Normal Attacks, but also for all elementla dmg
Even worse, she doesn't provide anything outside a rather low value buff, compared to other characters which people might already have well developed
She has a purpose no other character can replicate. She infuses your character's normal attack with hydro. It being usefull depends on the person. While I dont see her as top tier, she will create new possibilities others cant replicate and perhaps in the future she might jump up a tier. Just like how people trashed Kokomi and Kuki because they were less viable at the start because what they offered were niche compared to other existing characters, yet now they have their own role not many can replicate. Fischl cant replicate Kuki. Mona cant replicate Kokomi. Yunjin cant replicate Candace.
@@michaelshahoe she has a non-existent purpose. literally you can just use xq/yelan/kokomi to do off-field hydro application.
@@DanceTowaDance that's not the same lmaooo. Hydro infusion =/= off-field hydro application since you cant control it.
@@michaelshahoe who would benefit this hydro infusion? ayato has his own infusion and just use yunjin for more buff. and for others characters, you will butcher them by puting hydro cup on them? again, non-existent purpose.
@@DanceTowaDance same was said with Kokomi and Kuki, people enjoy jumping to conclusion immediately and than later on a niche character manages to be viable.
I'd use qiqi or jean because their build on pure atk stats yet their element would prove to be useful for hydro related. A bit example is your kazuha candace. As for zhongli, he need to be left out because he is geo
i m still waiting for hoyoverse start doing patches to buff and nerf characters
honestly.They rn are probably having difficulties to making the overworld and the entire game hard so they are giving out weaker characters.
Did you all know that Hoyoverse started releasing 3* characters coated as 4*? It started since 2.0.. Just to make us believe that there's another roaster of characters added to make the community excited.
Same can be applied to 5* too.
“I mean why would they give Candace a short duration if it’s her best selling point?” *comparing to XQ and Yelan
It’s because she’s not Chinese and HYV is bias with Chinese characters lol
I don't think it has anything to do with that... Bennett and Fischl are OP and they're from Mondstadt
@@KrisPBacon69 true but to be fair they were the earliest characters so they had to have good if not best kits. Who was the last 4 star in liyue? Yunjin? She’s good and she was so hyped bec of her origins in Chinese opera (which was nice though) and before yunjin, I believe it was yanfei and yanfei cons are really good. She’s underrated but her kit is really strong.
So yes, I still stand that Chinese/liyue char are always treated with bias. And I’m not mad about it coz this is a Chinese game. Just stating facts won’t hurt it.
Also, the last liyue 5 star was shenhe, though not as famous coz she’s niche support, she’s too tier support for freeze teams.
With my experience with Kokomi and Yae where they just aged like fine wine, Candace is probably going to be useful when later characters releases. Comparatively, still a good kit when compared to on-release Inazuman 4-stars in my opinion.
Im just glad we have more poc characters
I'm sure we'll get much more! Just no need to make a big deal if we don't...
Poc sounds like pow
aren’t Chinese and Japanese ppl “POC”? that label (POC) is used to exclude White people(European descent) in particular a part of arsenal in the game of victimhood, therefore 89% or more(because Monstadt is small) of Genshin currently is “POC”
Too bad Cyno is middling and Candace is suboptimal. Kaeya's pretty decent but his constellations are hard to obtain, and Xinyan has split-scaling. Seems they hate people like us.
@@ki_dochannel93 I don't really care about meta
Finally I've been waiting for this!!! i can now give my lvl 90 dendro traveler a main dps build since he doesn't need em and make him spawn in alot of blooms and add em kuki to the team and bam😎.
I feel like Candace was made specifically to assist Nilou really, given that she doesn’t exactly work optimally with other characters.
But thing is Nilou will need a healer cause of bloom. We don't have dendro healers yet
@@Azaleaaah That’s true… Kokomi would probably have to be the best option for that role then.
Frankly, I see Nilou, Candace, Nahida (or Dendro Traveler), and Kokomi being a viable bloom team.
I think candace ans kaeya would work really well together since both ult times r same 9 sec
I am kinda sad that the new 4 star characters with ABSOLUTELY GOOD design has very niche kit
I have her as a DPS with support from electro from Kuki and miko, cryo from qiqi and ganyu, with dendro. She's really fun
Hoh boy, Dehya's gonna be a catstrophe.
I get it, they really want to make a point for 5* to be desireable but.. that doesn't mean you should neglect the 4* to the point where they can easily be replaced by characters that came before them.
But leakers confimed that Dehya would be a 5* after the initial 4* leaks
@@fastao4219 Source? Because all leaks that claim she is a 5-star date 2 month back, shorty after new leaks have corrected them being a 4-star. Nothing new has come to light until then.
@@EtherealRune you got the order wrong, she was first leaked as 4*, and later Uncle Lu confirmed that she always was a 5-star. You can search for the SaveYourPrimos' Upcoming banners carrd where they compile future banners, and she is listed as 5* releasing on 3.5, along with the sources.
And even when they make the 5* they're either underwhelming or niche, unless it's an archon or someone from Liyue
@@fastao4219 No, the order is correct - As well as it's not confirmed, it's still speculative with no evidence what-so-ever speaking for either side. It's just 2 people claiming the opposite now.
HoYoVerse is definitely thinking far ahead I imagine(similarly to Xinyan/Thoma Burgeon, Lisa Quicken, or Kuki Hyperbloom), but of course, we’re not keen on what they have for future patches but, imo, I’m sure it’ll all come together eventually.
I definitely think these newer 4* stars are meant to be paired with certain characters, not niches necessarily. So Imma bet they’ll have some future banner characters that’ll pair extremely well with Candace. 🤷🏻♂️
I got her and I level her up immediately to level 20 and get the Aquent fate and probably put her at the basment alongside aloy and amber.
I had some fun with her with Xiangling and Diluc, which let Diluc forward vape his normal attacks for like 50k
I saw a video of her where she was built for charged attacks using xiangling and kazuha as off field pyro applicators. She was dealing around 100k vape damage per charged atk, kinda like hutao. Thoughts?
Maybe u dont ask for my thought but I think the one making that video had to work their ass off to have that kind of number. Hard work pay off indeed
You might be thinking of LACola's video, where he has a crowned c6 Candace with r5 Staff of Homa and god-like artifacts. I think at those levels of investment she can be played as a 4* hydro Hu Tao. Still not as good due to various factors, but a decent replacement.
Because of her c6, you kinda want someone else be on field
Candace be cooler than the razor knock off wit a 5 star sticker slapped on top
Nerf Bennentt, Xingqui, Fischl, Sucrose and Xiangling. There, balancing issues have been succesfully solved and all 4 stars are now at around the same level of power and usefulness.
It's illegal by CN & JP gacha laws to nerf things people spent money on (characters, weapons).
I just want to add that her E slam can break crystal chunks similar to Razor and Zhongli's E
I have a feeling that she's actually broken but not for now yet.
Going full hp on her is stupid. Just normally hp, hidro dmg, and crit. And use her in quick swap team.
YOU SHOULDVE TRIED
Eula, Candace, Xaingling, Diona
Making Eula Hydro instead of Physical sounds like you're just trying to find a way to make the game more challenging.
Ok like- I wanted to get her sm on my main acc, but seeing this I'm kind of glad I am not going to roll for her- but like- maybe she's just here for bloom so she might be a good support for nilou but moving on- this makes me happy bc I finally wont have to risk getting Cyno/Venti for her
with the way Candace's kit is made, im really afraid of the general stigma 4 stars will receive from here on out..
i honestly wouldn't mind if hoyoverse entered powercreep territory a little bit. we need more 4 stars who could actually be used often.
Finally some honesty in these videos
Me when I used Candace in the Trial: *uses 1 braincell due to how her kit works which probably makes no sense*
i'll wait for dehya. I got Candace in 2 pulls but i'm positive she will appear on dehya's banner
MHY is like let's release random characters who'll be good after 6 months or so
Meanwhile xinyan...
Mihoyo unironically trying everything in their power to remind players
“We fucked up with the 1.0 4 stars. DO NOT GET USED TO THAT LEVEL OF POWER FROM 4 STARS.
In short another disappointing 4* character.
Hoyo fucked up by making early 4* kit really good
as long as the kit is creative/different meta doesn’t matter to me, she’s at least adequate for certain comps.
@@f.b.lagent1113 well you're probably in the minority duh idk about you but others would really like a good value out of their primos, not another shiny utter garbage for 1600 primos
sadly that's the case here. at this point hoyo just make character pretty and nothing else 😔
Not trying to talk her up or anything, but aren't we looking at her kit wrong? Yes she scales with HP, but she also has some of the biggest normal attack multipliers of all polearm characters. Doesn't it make sense to capitalize on that, and build her as a main/sub dps with optional support capabilities? Going all in on HP only gives you diminishing returns and she already has easy access to HP through her ascension stat and hydro resonance. I mean she even says herself that she must also wield a spear and not just a shield, basically telling us not to focus on a single stat 😅