Warframe: The Darkest Tale In The Warframe Universe - Kullervos Bitesized Lore

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  • @TacticalPotato
    @TacticalPotato  Рік тому +81

    I'm going to continue making more of these types of videos in between Warframe Updates. But also Expanding them into other games.

    • @Jenkkimie
      @Jenkkimie Рік тому +2

      Fun fact: Kullervo's signature shotgun the Rauta means Iron in Finnish.

  • @Epsilon889
    @Epsilon889 Рік тому +259

    If I had a Nickle for every time Kullervo got charged with Treason I would have two nickles........which isn't a lot but its weird that it happened twice

  • @NinjaMaster23145
    @NinjaMaster23145 Рік тому +163

    Kullervo, Kullervo, swaddled in lies
    Raised to a life of groans and cries
    Took to his task with sorrowing sighs
    Kullervo, Kullervo, death was his prize.
    Kullervo, Kullervo, stranger to mirth
    Spoke with the ragged who toiled in the earth
    Learned of the truth of the days of his birth
    Kullervo, Kullervo, what was he worth
    Kullervo, Kullervo, warrior born
    From his mother’s breast he was torn
    Doomed to go wandering all forlorn
    Kullervo, Kullervo, made to morn
    Kullervo, Kullervo, sworn to the sword
    Sweated and slaved for the head of the horde
    Bruised and bludgeoned and scard and gored
    Kullervo, Kullervo, warriors ward
    Kullervo, Kullervo, burdens he bore
    Many the woes and horrors he saw
    Tyrants and conquerors ravaging the poor.
    Kullervo, Kullervo, witness to war
    Kullervo, Kullervo, far he strayed
    Lips to the steel he blessed and prayed
    Whispered promises that boy made
    Kullervo, Kullervo, friend to the blade
    Kullervo, Kullervo, broke like a flood
    Ripped and he ravaged with a slash, slice, thud
    Many lay headless, armless in the mud
    Kullervo, Kullervo, bathed in blood
    Kullervo, Kullervo ragged and thin
    Tracked back the path so steeped in sin
    All the way back to where it did begin
    Kullervo, Kullervo, sought for his kin
    Kullervo, Kullervo, stood all alone
    Over the graves of the ones he’d known
    Homestead warmth turned to ashes and bone
    Kullervo, Kullervo, cold as stone
    Kullervo, Kullervo, long did he weep
    In his own breast his sword drove deep
    Down to the dark and a merciful sleep
    Kullervo, Kullervo, your secrets we keep.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Рік тому +19

      OMG Ty! I've just picked up the Kalevala on audio book and am loving it.

    • @jexelbur6872
      @jexelbur6872 3 місяці тому +3

      And here I thought Umbra had the most tragic story.

  • @lagartopunkarra
    @lagartopunkarra Рік тому +136

    The existance of Kullervo is an interesting one, because him being a protowarframe means that we could see other protowarframes and even warframes that were thought to be completely destroyed through Duviri or other void shenanigans.
    Also, when Kullervo Prime comes, I predict he will look in style similar to Excalibur Umbra.

    • @myfriendscallmejojo
      @myfriendscallmejojo Рік тому +1

      You keep forgetting umbra is one of a kind

    • @schrodingersdog5512
      @schrodingersdog5512 Рік тому +1

      ​@@myfriendscallmejojoI doubt that. Considering how big of a piece of shit Ballas was, you really think he wouldn't have done the same exact thing to someone else?

    • @ValanxWF
      @ValanxWF Рік тому +25

      @@myfriendscallmejojo You forgot that they are the only two warframes directly spoken to by Ballas.

    • @muntu1221
      @muntu1221 Рік тому +8

      ​@@myfriendscallmejojo Umbra is implied to just be made from one of the failed infested strains before they perfected Warframes, just brought out of retirement as a torture method.

    • @eeftankian
      @eeftankian Рік тому +1

      How could kullervo prime even be possible? Primes are the original frames of which the regular ones are an inperfect copy of, but kullervo is a proto-frame, meaning he came first

  • @greytestgrey3837
    @greytestgrey3837 Рік тому +93

    Proto-warframes, that would be something id love to see expanded more in the game's story and gameplay in some way

    • @lilplague4857
      @lilplague4857 Рік тому +2

      Well there is the excal proto-armor

    • @greytestgrey3837
      @greytestgrey3837 Рік тому +3

      @@lilplague4857 proto-armor, not proto-excalibur, and the skin is a reference to Dark Sector, DE previous game before working on Warframe

    • @lilplague4857
      @lilplague4857 Рік тому

      @@greytestgrey3837 ah

    • @THERATSANDTHERATS
      @THERATSANDTHERATS 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Okabe_Rintarokinda? Thats more or less a smart Infested and part of the hivemind, the Proto frames are singular and horribly twisted people

  • @xanlikes6146
    @xanlikes6146 Рік тому +46

    kullervo - what about treason?
    ballas - you've already had it
    kullervo - ive had one yes, but what about second treason?
    tenno - i dont think ballas knows about second treason
    kullervo - *crimes intensify*

  • @SifernosRatLord
    @SifernosRatLord Рік тому +84

    So... Kullervo would be kind of cool if he got Proto Kullervo instead of Prime... Could be fun to have Warframes become more monstrous. Mouths, eyes, maybe thoughts we hear sometimes? Maybe we fight their control as we level it until mastery stops then fighting you? Could be a fun twist. Add back self damage then have Warframes that can take control and run away from points or run to kill more when they need to be defending the target. Self mutilation while they mock us? Could get weird.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Рік тому +35

      Proto frames in general might be a nice addition for certain frames like Rhino, Kullervo etc. But can't see it.

    • @trevorkirimi58
      @trevorkirimi58 Рік тому +4

      Aren't proto warframes just umbral warframes

    • @angelicgamer131
      @angelicgamer131 Рік тому +15

      ⁠@@trevorkirimi58not really lore wise Umbral Excal is the only one we know about and he was specifically made by Ballasas a form of punishment for a specific person.

    • @trevorkirimi58
      @trevorkirimi58 Рік тому +1

      @@angelicgamer131 oh i see thanks for the info

    • @myfriendscallmejojo
      @myfriendscallmejojo Рік тому

      Na

  • @nogard174
    @nogard174 Рік тому +27

    No joke, now that you are saying it, it would be really cool to have a series of videos were you explain the origins behind every frame, like oberon and titania being characters from the play "Midsumer Nigths Dream" or Wukong story from Journey to the West.

  • @tishawngrant9447
    @tishawngrant9447 Рік тому +22

    So basically he's one of the old but new Warframe of the old age

  • @SuperHexer123
    @SuperHexer123 Рік тому +39

    Ya know, kind of an off comment but if there is one thing I would love to see warframe do, is give us a proper look at the original Orokin capitol. Heck with Wally becoming more important to the story and we know he can show us images I think it could be neat to have a big story quest that throws us back to the original orokin empire, not a corrupted image like Duviri or the destroyed/empty remnants of Lua/the void towers. I would love to see the original council and the executioners in thier glory and the empire before its fall.

    • @0oAngel0fDeatho0
      @0oAngel0fDeatho0 11 місяців тому +4

      Me too. I wished to see that from the moment I learned that Orokin had an empire, and that it was glorius. I would even like to have a quest in such surounding... something that would allow us to go through a day... or a week.. or a month living in such empire, but that would go too much out of Warframe and into RPG space (Which is not bad, but I doubt DE wishes that for Warframe)

    • @TheMojaveLamp
      @TheMojaveLamp 7 місяців тому

      My greatest wish for a future quest would be for us to visit the past and take part in the Night of the Naga Drums from various Tennos' perspectives, with it all ending in the final fight we see in the opening Cinematic

  • @ezkillionaire3276
    @ezkillionaire3276 Рік тому +15

    "I guess I'm not the darkest anymore... " (cries in Harrow)

  • @Dlo2018
    @Dlo2018 Рік тому +11

    3:20 now that we know multiple scientists had a hand in warframe creation, i'd like to know the entire science team working on the warframe project and who contributed to who.

  • @FoAmY99
    @FoAmY99 11 місяців тому +9

    All this lore makes me want Warframe's next really big lore expansion to be where we somehow are able to re-live the events of the Old War. I want to see the Orokin Empire at its peak, or at least its peak during the Old War. Its a great way to expand upon exactly what was the tipping point, that caused virtually all Tenno to rise up and go full Exterminatus upon the Orokin. My understanding was that we Tenno were either manipulated or flat out mind controlled to slaughter all Orokin on sight, when the Old War ended; As some kind of one last Sentient fuck you to the Orokin, by turning their greatest weapons against them. But with Kullervo's lore, where he supposedly was poisoning the minds of the Tenno against the Orokin (like that's particularly difficult) implying that we WILLINGLY exterminated the Orokin, dooming the Origin System to utter chaos, and collapse.

  • @l4w1nc0l7
    @l4w1nc0l7 Рік тому +6

    even ballas's death, his voice still haunts every warframe player to this day xD

  • @Omen_Seven
    @Omen_Seven Рік тому +10

    It certainly does sound like Kullervo is more of a proto frame, I suspect DE - if they ever expand on his lore - will go with something like Kullervo originally being a Dax soldier who was turned into a warframe as partial punishment for his crimes.
    As for the thought of a video on Kullervo's mythical inspirations, maybe you could do a series of videos where you dive into the stories/myths that served as inspirations for the frames.

  • @zephyrprime8
    @zephyrprime8 11 місяців тому +6

    Love the finnish representation! The Kalevala is a great tale of finnish folklore and I think it definitely should get more attention.

    • @saverofthehumens
      @saverofthehumens 11 місяців тому

      Bro had a rock baked in his bread and was very displeased about it

    • @Wingedlizar
      @Wingedlizar 7 місяців тому

      @@saverofthehumens The rock broke his knife :(

  • @TheProphetOfThePan
    @TheProphetOfThePan Рік тому +4

    Yeah kullervo's existance is just pain, both physical and psycological. Finally someone that is as depressed as umbra.

  • @MuraCasardis
    @MuraCasardis Рік тому +1

    That was an amazing concise video going over his lore. Thank you Tater!

  • @jbhoy4953
    @jbhoy4953 Рік тому +4

    I don't know exactly how this would fit lore-wise (if there even is any lore to conflict), but I think an interesting potential 'proto-warframe' if they decided to expand in that route would be an infested necramech. It'd be an interesting idea to show the failures of the project and how it manifested in some half-sentient (as in aware not the sentients) but half bound by machinery psuedo-proto-warframe. Maybe the corn in the middle could've expanded to a kind of warframe itself and the rest of the necramech would simply be armour, and to represent the failed and tormented state you could choose between better warframe oriented skills in the main frame but a basically non-existent health pool or clunky movement and basic abilities but superior defence. How they would implement that I don't know but there's definitely lots of room to work with the concept.

  • @Nebulanoctis
    @Nebulanoctis Рік тому +2

    so this means we have (proto-)warframe that is acting on it's own behalve like umbra was.. without tenno control... really cool that we get a second warframe that is not just a tool

  • @keithcarson7638
    @keithcarson7638 11 місяців тому +3

    yoooo, imagine if Kullervo prime is the version of him that was still obsessed with Ballas' approval, like, if you enter a mission and you have a relic that has one of his parts, he could appear and try to kill the tenno like how the stalkers do it. and if you kill him, same thing, a chance you might get one of his parts corresponding to the relic.

  • @AlexandriteFeyheart
    @AlexandriteFeyheart 11 місяців тому

    Informative mythology videos from everyone's favorite potato? Heck yeah I'd be interested in that.

  • @joshuathomasverghese1341
    @joshuathomasverghese1341 Рік тому +11

    I think i might replay The New War with Kullervo, even if it doesn't really make a difference, I'd like to give him the chance to fight properly.

  • @CretaceousChris
    @CretaceousChris Рік тому +1

    I would absolutely watch CrashCourse Mythology style vids of your favorite influences/mythos in your favorite games!

  • @SocraTetris
    @SocraTetris Рік тому +1

    Never fear, TC. I'll be diving into the cultural inspirations for Kullervo soon. And luckily I have already read the Kalevala 👍🏾

  • @arcadelounge4890
    @arcadelounge4890 Рік тому +5

    kullervo is more influencial than you think ! one half of Micheal Moorcock's genre defining epic Elric of Melnibone was pretty much inspired by Kullervo's Sword which feeds on souls and Elric's imagery despite being underrated has been used in heavy metal albums all the way from Lemmy's band before Motorhead named Hawkwind to Blue oyster cult to Diamond Head and Deep Purple infact many works of fiction are straight out ganks Elric's world building elements and Character design you might've heard of this particular Polish fantasy series called The Hexer in english more colloquially know as The Witcher

  • @SurtThur
    @SurtThur 11 місяців тому

    I would definitely love to see video on the underlying mythology @TacticalPotato.

  • @majorasmask5523
    @majorasmask5523 Рік тому +4

    If we’re being honest, I would love some Remnant 2 videos. I’ve been having a lot of fun with it. Currently playing through on Apocalypse.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Рік тому

      TBH, I've completed it and put it to one side for the DLC

  • @AngelYt-xs6yy
    @AngelYt-xs6yy Рік тому +2

    Imagine if kullervo is the Excalibur umbra of duviri paradox whit quest line of his own but without the Dax background of umbra

  • @jackkhail7833
    @jackkhail7833 Рік тому +2

    I really wish DE would do more with story writing in warframe, The Sacrifice is my favourite quest and this is just my opinion but I think its their best

  • @SWATSPEC1AL1ST
    @SWATSPEC1AL1ST 9 місяців тому

    Nice to see you interested in Finnish epic Kalevala. 😊 i am from Finland. Usually our history and stuff is not that popular So Nice to see that our history/culture gets some Spotlight.

  • @YoloSadBoy
    @YoloSadBoy Рік тому

    bro was collecting every change possible 🥶

  • @moondog548
    @moondog548 Рік тому

    I really did need this explained to me. The confusing timeline of the history made it hard to parse just from the plaques themselves.

  • @JackWolf1
    @JackWolf1 Рік тому +3

    Honestly, this lore seems to have a very notable trope:
    The unreliable narrator.
    Might just be reading into it too much, but the lore we are presented with feels very one-sided and incomplete. Like we’re only getting a part of the whole story.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Рік тому +1

      Like a lot of warframe lore, it's either fragmented, one sided or left to our imagination

  • @kurotama3046
    @kurotama3046 Рік тому +1

    I really need a Explanation in the Warframe Part of the Lore, as in all the Quest Storys of the Warframe, Limbo, Titania, etc. or Valkyr, Rhinoo. When mentioned in they're Quests Trailers are they already controlled by the tenno... were those Storys before the tenno, so they were sentient but now they arent ...? Gara for example is her story of a tenno which just had those spezific abilities on his Frame, was it a Frame before the tenno and with it mind still intact after the transformation, if yes why isnt it moving anymore?

  • @0oAngel0fDeatho0
    @0oAngel0fDeatho0 11 місяців тому +1

    I think he is inspired heavily by Kalevala. If we listen to that poem that kids are singing... its Kalevala in rhyme. WHat I am interested in... WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KIDS around his hold? WHat gives? And why that kid is keeping his sword hidden underground?

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 Рік тому

    I love this😍

  • @kursedklown
    @kursedklown 11 місяців тому +1

    as a Finn, I would love to hear your opinion and thoughts on Kalevala.

  • @hyaki-Sensei
    @hyaki-Sensei 8 місяців тому

    Those words must've hurt Kullervo to the core, that he felt knives in his body
    if you know you know

  • @elijoki99
    @elijoki99 Рік тому

    I would watch a Kalevala video. As a fin, I'd like to know more about the epic from someone smarter than me. I could read it in finnish, but my brain isn't able to comprehend what is happening in the book due to the way it was writen. I have nothing against of how it was written, since it is a collection of tales once passed on through mouth to mouth that were often through song. I don't have the capasity to understand the epic by myself, so I planned to one day look up a video that can tell me about it, be it in english or finnish. Would love to hear it from this charming fellow.
    Also us fins would appreciate it.

  • @sting7789
    @sting7789 11 місяців тому

    I want Tactical to read me a bed time story 😂😂

  • @BLAZING900
    @BLAZING900 Рік тому

    ash was at the 4 front when the stadium was flooded with blood.

  • @laurenceoni
    @laurenceoni Рік тому

    Im totally down for Mythology tater, les gooo do it!!

  • @Stubrok
    @Stubrok Рік тому

    I’d be interested to watch that

  • @cmr2004
    @cmr2004 5 місяців тому

    Now we need to get other proto warframe to see what they can do

  • @miguelarias5193
    @miguelarias5193 Місяць тому

    Legit started using him after maining Wukong ans his prime variant for YEARS. IDK but Love Kullervo 😂

  • @gorillazzillathemeh5897
    @gorillazzillathemeh5897 8 місяців тому

    Yes please, mythology mythos please. ❤

  • @domonator5000
    @domonator5000 11 місяців тому

    So this is my only question and maybe I just wasn’t paying close enough attention in the beginning, but did Ballas set this whole thing in motion essentially entrapping kullveros or was this something he did of his own volition and then backed himself into a corner digging a deeper hole of his own sins? Cause if Ballas set him up then kullveros’ cause was just, but otherwise it’s just a tragedy.

  • @russmorrow1428
    @russmorrow1428 Рік тому

    Warframe version of Pandora's Box

  • @BljesakiOluja
    @BljesakiOluja Рік тому +1

    Honestly, I want more of those creepy fkin children's songs in Kullervo's Hold. Reminds me of the little children's song kids have in Witcher about Gaunter O'Dimm.

  • @ML7WL
    @ML7WL 11 місяців тому

    Don't think it is the darker, the tenno and umbra backgrounds sounds heavier. But it is good worldbuilding indeed.

  • @moondog548
    @moondog548 Рік тому +1

    Very curious backstory, because we're certainly not getting it from a reliable narrator.

  • @thewerewizard6721
    @thewerewizard6721 11 місяців тому

    The dark souls frame

  • @gp-1542
    @gp-1542 3 місяці тому

    I think it really is ballas
    Hes the number a-hole for his kind

  • @krananananana2550
    @krananananana2550 Місяць тому

    I think it's important to take Kullervo's tale with a MASSIVE, GIGANTIC grain of salt, since Ballas is the one telling it. Y'know what I think? Kullervo was a scapegoat for Ballas' own crimes. I don't think he killed those orokin, or even his mother for that matter, I think Ballas is the one who orchestrated their deaths and placed the blame on Kullervo. A little theory of mine is that Kullervo's mother was one of the people Ballas wanted to get rid of, and he decided to go after her family first, that would be pretty typical of him, don't you think? To me, the guilt in Kullervo stems not from his crimes, but from his failures. His failure to help his fellow proto-frames, his failure to keep his mother safe, his failure to put down the lying snake who ruined his life and so many others.
    Kullervo is such an interesting character to me, because as far as I'm aware he's one of the few frames out there who mantained their sanity and personality (at least to some extent?), and not only that, he's still alive! I wish we could free him for good and get him out of duviri, and not just by building him in our foundry, y'know? I hope DE does more with him in the future, because it would feel like a waste to give him so much character (compared to some other frames at least) and then not expand on it even a little.

  • @VideoKingist
    @VideoKingist Рік тому +2

    So is there a distinct difference between Umbra and Proto-frames?

    • @greytestgrey3837
      @greytestgrey3837 Рік тому +8

      Yea, umbra was created during the end of the war, sometime before the Sentient attack on the Lua's Reservoirs, as the creation of Umbra was a punishment on Dax for discovering the treason of Ballas on his own kind by telling the location of the Tenno

    • @THERATSANDTHERATS
      @THERATSANDTHERATS 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Okabe_Rintaro thats HORRIBLY incorrect, Umbra existed AFTER proto frames because Umbra had a transference bolt in him but kept his free will because Ballas was torturing him
      The Proto frames were effectively flesh golems with no real way to control them unless they were either loyal or effectively brain dead, and essentially psychosis was the usual outcome creating things like the Proto Rhino who was literally eating people like a wild beast.
      Also Umbra is called Umbra because of his containment on the moon or because thats just where he was kept for all eternity to keep reliving the same horrible memory over and over and over, its also related to the Tenno's own resting grounds because Lua is where the tenno also rested in their transference pods after the massacaring of the Orokin, to try and forget the painful memories of war and violence, something Umbra is also trying to forget, something we, who have moved past their trauma and pain, can now help Umbra do the same and be better.

  • @Dlo2018
    @Dlo2018 Рік тому +1

    0:42 do it

  • @douglaspeters68
    @douglaspeters68 9 місяців тому

    Yo why does kullvero go kinda hard?

  • @MrTyJacks
    @MrTyJacks Рік тому

    Does Stalker is also one of those Proto-Warframe cause he definitely have his own free will?

    • @Nebulanoctis
      @Nebulanoctis Рік тому +1

      I think stalker is something very different.. sounds more like some transfered their consciousness into a frame... like in the titania quest with the archemedian that put herself in the silver growth

    • @THERATSANDTHERATS
      @THERATSANDTHERATS 11 місяців тому

      Stalker is VERY different, he was simply a Dax soilder and he transferenced into a warframe, which drove him mad and mixed with his want and urge for revenge it gave him one goal for the rest of time. To kill the Tenno for the slaughter of the Orokin.

    • @Nebulanoctis
      @Nebulanoctis 11 місяців тому

      thx for explaining ^^@@THERATSANDTHERATS

  • @pesiavailalo-stewart1227
    @pesiavailalo-stewart1227 Рік тому

    The Tennos all have names linked to ancient mythology like Valkry she has a awesome story,the Kullervo story was awesome makes you more connected to the characters

  • @AdrianoSnorts
    @AdrianoSnorts Рік тому

    Warframe is an online f2p version of dark souls for lore I swear.

  • @KarmaKunzaaa
    @KarmaKunzaaa Рік тому

    intrested intrested

  • @SergioLeonardoCornejo
    @SergioLeonardoCornejo Рік тому +1

    Every single negative thing happening in Warframe was caused by Ballas.

  • @urulai
    @urulai Рік тому

    Put me in for 20 on Mythical Potato.

  • @ZweiofPembroke
    @ZweiofPembroke Рік тому

    9:44
    My headcannon is that Kullervo is an Ordan Karris turned Warframe rather than Cephalon.
    With no operator to tie a guilty Beast of Bones to, Ballas turned him into a warframe instead as a form of attonement for his crimes.
    As a Cephalon, Ordan Karris was torn apart from who he once was; and Kullervo as we see, is also fragmented.

    • @TacticalPotato
      @TacticalPotato  Рік тому +2

      Id love that and it would be cool, but ordan karris didn't turn on the orokin until the very end, there was no espionage, treason, or flight from custody.

    • @ZweiofPembroke
      @ZweiofPembroke Рік тому +1

      ​@@TacticalPotato that we know of! Superb video and I for one would love some mythology summary or parallels, like Wukong's depiction for example.

  • @anakonias
    @anakonias Рік тому

    Pov you have a finnish warframe😂😂

  • @ZeldaSam1
    @ZeldaSam1 Рік тому

    6:09 Thank You Kullervo.

  • @muhaiminmin8759
    @muhaiminmin8759 8 місяців тому

    he was once a slave.....and it black and field....