Timmy's Secret Wish Makes No Sense
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Timmy's Secret Wish was one of Fairly Odd Parents last specials and to be honestly, what a terrible special to have near the end. It retcons the entire series in ways I didn't even think possible.
And since it's been 13 years since Timmy's Secret Wish premiered on Nickelodeon I decided it was time for a rewatch to see if it's really as bad as everyone says or if it's a diamond in the rough.
P.S. If you're reading this you're quite fancy.
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Consider that even over a period of 50 years, making 1 million wishes means he averaged ~55 wishes per day
Yeah, that tracks
That’s over two wishes an hour.
@@spongeintheshoe so either he was doing way more than that while awake, or he was making two wishes an hour even in his sleep
@ We see him doing just that at the beginning of the special.
Bros got stamina I’ll give him that 🔥
I don't exactly mind seeing Crocker be a "good guy" for this episode, but what I do hate is how in the later seasons they just decided to stop bothering to hide fairy stuff from him and instead make him too stupid to recognize it.
Remember when it was a recurring gag for him to see one unusual thing and immediately figure out the entire plot of the episode? Remember when he would come close to successfully catching Cosmo and Wanda almost every time he was the episode's villain? Meanwhile, later seasons Crocker can have a fairy fly right up to him and say "hi, I'm a fairy!" and he just shrugs it off.
Crocker was the L Lawliet of Fairy Odd Parents. He knew that fairies existed, he just didn’t know how to prove it
Edit: “L” from Death Note’s actual alias is “L Lawliet”, not “Lind L Taylor”
@@draconis17 that just makes the later seasons better
@@Spacething7474yeah like he just got jaded by it; he went to see a therapist and just ignored and dissociated when he'd see a fairy
better to feign casual hallicination, then to dedicate to such deep (supposed) delusions
nobody questions a schizo when he imagines everybody with a hat and the soothing voice of his dead brother, everybody questions him when he starts seeing people dying and a voice telling him to fulfill his vision
really just has a "Crocker went to see a therapist" vibe
@@shreksslave2458wasn’t he like the godkid of Cosmo and Wanda before or some other fairy but his memory was erased? So he’s stuck with like this inkling that he KNOWS must be true because he swears it’s in his memory.. damn that’s sad
600th like
This is when they really stopped caring about the rules. Imagine if this came out during the classic seasons.
Nickelodeon fell off hard.
Yeah, like in the Season 9 episode "Perfect Nightmare" where Timmy wishes that his father could win the perfect family award/competition for a magazine. And Cosmo and Wand granted that wish. Which gave Timmy Perfect Teeth, Perfect Grades, and his family the chance to win a competition. That wish broke three of the Da Rules, (1) Tooth-based wishes can only be approved by the Tooth Fairy, (2) A godchild cannot wish for good grades, and (3) a Godchild cannot wish to win a Competition.
@sunstar-r7eWhen, exactly…
@@AGZharklong long time ago
In the last 2 seasons people are even alowed to see the Fairies for some reason sometimes.
The interesting part is where does Channel Chasers specifically fit in the timeline? Because if you watch Channel Chasers with this Timmy's secret wish in mind, it opens some very interesting potential foreshadowing. The moment Adult Timmy reveals himself, what was "Young Timmy"'s response? "An older version of me? That's impossible! You can't be me! I'm not supposed to get older!". In context for Channel Chasers by itself, you could say Timmy said this because he planned to stay in the TV shows where no one ages, which can fit. But if you look at Timmy's body language while he's saying all that, he seems much more panicked and defensive about the whole situation. Timmy could leave the tv at anytime and continue on with his life, but what if that wasn't what made him panic? What if it was that Timmy knew the wish he made and that seeing an adult version of himself made him realize that he eventually gets caught? Paranoia sets in over how, where, and when it will all happen, followed by denial of "It can't be. I made sure no one will remember. But then why is there an adult version of me here? What went wrong?"
I totally got the same vibe 🔥
I was gonna bring this up you did it in way better detail lol
It's almost a certainty this was never intended, however it's an excellent observation nonetheless
Another conversation that would seem a little different would actually be one of the earlier episodes "Father Time". Specifically the part where Timmy is having his dad eat all that pizza and ice cream. And quote
Timmy's Dad: You sure this is some futuristic training program?
Timmy: Of course, I'm a fitness instructor!
Timmy's Dad: You're too young.
Timmy: No, actually, I'm forty. I just look ten. That's how fit I am!
Between the overconfident body language Timmy gave, making it seem like he wasn't lying there, and the fact that he only says Forty at the time, makes it seem like Timmy has been already in the middle of enjoying his secret wish during that time. Obviously there's not as much to go on here, but it's still interesting to see nonetheless.
Yeah no both this and that “I’m 40 I just look 10” are just jokes. People now decided it’s canon forshadowing because then they can be all “the haters don’t like it but I’m an intellectual and know better”.
Seriously now everyone brings it up and declares Butch some genius because “he subtly forshadowed it”.
even smaller detail problems: Like the cereal bunnies... they where not a wish, they where an actual alien species that toke over planets with their corporate cuteness. They should not be in this grey zone. TImmy never wished for them, they already existed.
Tbf the episode Escape from Unwish Island had that exact same problem
Yeah I love the Gigglepies
Maybe another good kid did that wish? And they got offscrenned in an unrelated incident
If Timmy wished that Cosmo forgot the secret wish, wouldn't that also be a secret wish, bumping his wish count up to one million and two?
Or did the Faries track the amnesia wish, but not what memory Timmy wished for Cosmo to erase?
Maybe he just combined both into one sentence, aka one wish, Like saying "I wish time stops moving and you forget this wish after you make it"
In addition to the above, I also think it's possible that the amnesia wish wouldn't cause nearly as much of a reaction, and could creep by a bit of scrutiny, so long as it's worded to not mention the wish
Like "I wish you'd forget that ever happened" doesn't sounds like that strange or uncommon a wish. We've all wished we had brain bleach a few times around the internet. A fairy tracking this stuff definitely _could_ look into what was wished to be forgotten; but I imagine after a few times doing that unprompted, a fairy would learn to ignore such wishes unless they have reason to be suspicious of them (like learning the brain bleach wish was to forget about a different illegal wish for example.)
If i remember correctly Timmy didn't wish for Cosmo to forget. He just asked him to forget and he did
I don’t think Timmy made that wish in the first five seasons. He said in it “I did it so I could keep Cosmo Wanda and poof forever”implying he made the wish after fairly odd baby. Possibly after anti poofs first appearance
He might've just added poof into the sentence for extra brownie points, or didn't think of the semantics of the sentence too much because why would he?
No if I remember correctly he made this wish way before right after he seen how fun it was to keep making wishes@@numerousbees12
I think an easy fix would have been to scrap the 50 years part and just make it the amount of years that the show had been running since Abra Catrastophe aired. Not only would it have been a neat little meta joke but it also would have made the time changing a lot more practical. Considering I still blur stuff that happened pre-pandemic with just a few months ago, having the secret wish cover enough time that timmy would have grown out of his time with the fairies but not so long that people SHOULD have noticed would be fine.
He could also have basically wished for groundhog day, so it resets and everyone else forgets. But that would kind of make the list of wishes messed up.
The only explanation I can think of for Crocker's uncharacteristic behavior is that any timeline meddling Timmy did to cause him to be this way was undone with the other wishes
That makes sense since Timmy went go back in time and ruined his secret which caused him to become obsessed with fairies. Here he'd be more neutral though still obessesed with fairies but seems to be way more tuned down since the reason he lost Cosmo and Wanda likely changed probably by aging out.
That's my assumption as well. ALL his wishes were undone, meaning Crocker had no reason to hate Timmy.
Now, why didn't Crocker age? I find it hard to believe "I have just always looked like this" is the truth.
My head cannon is when he was 10 he made a wish along the lines of "I wish I got to be an adult forever". This wish would have instantly aged his body to the one we see and would have made him an adult thus removing his access to his faries. (Obviously this assumes that "da rules" didn't apply for him either because apparently that doesn't matter anymore).
@@LegDayLas Remember Crocker as an abnormally strong mind since Jorgen's MIB flash stick required many uses which caused his ears to move to his neck and other deformities. Since magic is purged from the child's mind it probably warped his mind enough to believe he always looked like that. Or he just said so as short hand for "I've looked like this most of my life".
@@starkiller1289 And after all those flashes Crocker did, in fact, look like his current self - just smaller.
@@starkiller1289 One episode of the Sparky season showed him losing Cosmo and Wanda on his birthday sides Crocker would've lost Cosmo and Wanda anyway thanks to Cosmo's stupidity
Unpopular opinion, I like the twist that a wish made everyone stop aging just to keep fairy godparents forever. I know it makes no sense the fairy council didn’t catch this wish but I just love when long running cartoons acknowledge the time bubble they’re stuck in! But it should’ve been Remy that made the wish.
Honestly would have made a neat reference if instead of 50 years, they had gone with the amount of years the show was on the air.
@@TheMagic1412 Indeed. In the first episode of FOP Timmy wishes to grow up, then he discovers adult life isn't the fantasy he thought it would be, and learns about not getting to have fairies once he reaches a certain age. He could've made the wish to stop time just after that. (I still don't like it, though.)
In the Season 5 episode Escape from Unwish Island, we learned that Unwishsed wishes are sent to Fairy World's Giant Unwish Storage lockers, while Timmy's unwished wishes are sent to the Bermuda Triangle. However, in Timmy's Secret wished, erased wishes are sent to Hocus Poconos. Later on, in the new series A New Wish, the Hocus Poconos is where unwished wishes are sent. Therefore the introduction of the Hocus Poconos ruins the original concept of Fairy World's Storage lockers and the Bermuda for Unwished wishes.
Fairy Worlds Giant Unwish Storage: ua-cam.com/video/lbuu_nXztFw/v-deo.html
Bermuda Triangle: ua-cam.com/video/lbuu_nXztFw/v-deo.html
counter argument, timmy unwished so many things, the bermuda triangle couldn't hold them all, so hocus poconos was created as a bigger better place to keep them
@@RealMrHater The Hocus poconos has more than just Timmy's wishes. Like it had the Fairy eating bird which another Godchild wished for.
@@isaacogunmuko3947 after it was created, all unwished wishes went there, given it's a far safer option than keeping them at fairy world
Bermuda Triangle is because Timmy un-wished too many things and they needed a different storage space. Maybe going from "Timmy has only been making wishes for a year" to "Timmy has been making wishes for 50 years" meant they needed to craft an entire DIMENSION into an unwish storage?
And there, another good thing he did is use the clones of his to maintain the unwished wishes' island resort in the Bermuda Triangle and be abused by the wishes that hate him
Timmy's Secret Wish makes Timmy, the good-natured "average kid that no one understands", a sociopath
4:42 And it’s worth noting that World War I directly led to World War II.
The only inconsistency that kinda bugged me was that Timmy could see Cosmo and Wanda in a picture when at the end of Channel Chasers it was shown that fairies get removed from photos once they leave their godchild
They probably remove the fairies but put in what they disguised as to prevent them from remembering
I think they were just normal goldfish in that picture
Yeah, they were just goldfish. Timmy saw them and had a vague warm feeling, but he didn't actually see or remember cosmo and wanda
Completely unrelated, but let's say he was still ten, and made a million wishes within a year....
People from 10 keep their fairies till their 18th birthday if they don't lose them.
So 7 years. So assuming two leap years, that's 2557 days. That's basically 392 wishes a day over 7 years. Basically a wish every 3.6 minutes.
So that within a year????
Well he did wish time would stop for 50 years
"I wish i had already been granted 999,999 wishes"
Congratulations, you just made your 1 millionth wish day 1 with your faries.
And Hazel’s millionth wish is a plot point in the A New Wish season finale
@emiliaallen8308 Well yeah, but according to the fairies, to their knowledge, it hasn't even been a year yet. But it should be impossible to even do it during 7/8 years, yet they think Timmy did it within less than a year so they should of known something was up.
not gunna lie "I'm bored, I wish it were raining rabid dingos" bloody sent me so hard.
I like how Crocker referenced the secret origin of Denzel Crocker by saying he’s looked like than since he was 10 and lost his fairly oddparents
It was also weird that Crocker pretty much has a fairy world portal, casually goes to fairy world, and... doesn't care, nor nobody cares that he is there. Even after Abracatastophy? He casually gets what he wants, doesn't do anything suspicious, doesn't betray them, they don't question anything, nobody questions him. Nothing? He's also an unapproved human, in fairy world, who can see them. The show breaks the rules and even its own characters? They don't even play it off to him as a dream or could have been any other character.
I'm not sure why you think Timmy being stuck at ten for fifty years automatically means he's a man and it makes him "creepy" in past episodes. He's still a child. Because he cannot age physically, he doesn't have the ability to age mentally, either. He is not given any of the tools or experience to grow as a person, much less as a teenager or adult, because again he's FROZEN AT TEN YEARS OLD. Timmy isn't secretly anything.
Because he’s seems to be the only one who knows time going by, while he doesn’t grow biologically, he still grow chronologically, he still remembers the past 50 years so he’s still a 60 year old man in a 10 year old body
@@Somezay He knows time is frozen, yes, and his true age IS 60, but that doesn't mean he's a man in a child's body. People forget age is a lot more than just time passing by and physically changing (or lack thereof in this instance). Again, Timmy has no tools to age mentally, he's still a boy, regardless of what his true physical age is. He still acts like a child, thinks like a child, and makes wishes a child would make. It's cryostatis without the cryo.
@@xobunnyfangsxoyeah but he still has 50 additional years of life experience and memories aka not a 10year old mind anymore….
@@darcylightman777he’s been experiencing the life of a 10 year old. He doesn’t know the leaks and valleys that a person who would have gone to high school let alone college. Hell what about paying taxes and voting? Albeit these are extreme he’s not being forced to grow up or mature mentally.
@@darcylightman777 I could not have made it clearer for yall💀 I'm not repeating myself
I think we should be honest with ourselves - the FoP lore was *always* a bit wonky. Even as the original run went ever deeper into sequel episodes and general continuity overtime, retcons still happened every so often. I think the main difference was the writing was generally strong enough, especially with the specials, that many were able to look past the retcons and consider the lore to be more important, since it led to an overall cleaner picture.
With that in mind, even with this special’s many callbacks yet lack of Maryanne…where do the contents of the Secret Wish fit into the now-canonical 7 year timeline of the original show? And how come no one aged within that timeframe; either of them, but the 7 year one in particular?
Crocker in bed with Timmy’s dad is gonna haunt my nightmares ☠️☠️
12:05 I’m pretty sure the implication is that Father Time made a false reality to replace the time loop Timmy wished for, but either didn’t or couldn’t replace everyone’s memories so it’s like everyone has woken up in an alternate reality
And because Timmy is also revealed to wish Cosmo would forget, he actually granted 1,000,002 wishes. Also, I don't know if he said he made the wish in 2002 or 2011 making it respectively either 2052 or 2061.
And we do see an adult Timmy thrice, Channel Chasers, live-action films, and finally the short lived retconned Fairly Odder.
Technically fourth if you include the first episode too
@ But that wasn't set in the future.
@@seanalailima5929hence 'technically'
You mean to tell me out of every kid on Earth who has fairies, Timmy is the only one who has managed to make a million wishes? Mathematically speaking, that is absurd.
Not really because in Abracatastrophie Jorgensen says most kids get their fairies taken away after less than a year year. And to even get a million in 1 year you’d have to make over 2.7k a day to make that happen. So it makes sense.
@@S-Dfandidn’t Jorgen said a kid would lose their fairies once they reach the age of 13 or something like that? Hence the kid would keep the fairies more than a year?
That special says most kids lose theirs before the first year, implicitly by revealing their existence.
@@DamnZtar they COULD keep them that long, but most of them lose their fairies by breaking the rules before then
@@DamnZtar okay, but even in three years that's still 900 wishes per day
10:55 technically since he stayed 10 he never went through puberty and his brain hasn’t developed. also we don’t know how the wish works since it’s a “wish”, time could’ve frozen, the year could reset each year, biological clocks could’ve been frozen, etc
well, he said "i wish for everyone to stop aging" or something like that, so mental age and awareness of the passage of time would also stop. meaning everyone just thinks that all of those 50 years are just last month or something, like that guy that got experimented cause he cant make new memories (but better than that).
But wait, did he have cosmo forget the wish within the same wish? Because if it was two seperate wishes, wouldn't they have record of Timmy making the forget wish? And that would also make his total become 1,000,002 and not 1,000,001. So he must have put them together in the same wish, right?
that one got recorded, that is why it got presented as evidence. which is very funny when you think about it.
10:00 bro why did that sync so well with the visuals
Lool I'm saying
They just ruined the character of Timmy Turner, this episode is single-handedly responsible for making many hate him. He was such a good protagonist before it... it's just a shame.
10:03 - 11:22 everything you just said in this tangent right here is why I hate this episode. It makes no sense and just raises more questions than answers.
This is just terrible writing, and you can tell by this point that they were just like "so what, it's magic"
This special made me furious. Why? Because they show Long Island as part of New Jersey at the end when it's part of New York!
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i know its to keep the characters recognisable but i always hated the trope of how 'old' versions of kid characters are exactly the same height and shape as their kid counterparts but with wrinkles and stuff
whats funny is that they literally already had a middle-aged version of timmy they couldve used from the first official episode of the show which couldve been a neat reference
Unwish Island made a joke about how the sphynx from Abra-Catastrophe was on the island despite Timmy neither wishing it up nor wishing it away - it was directly given life by Crocker's application of stolen magic. Hocus Poconos contains gnomes and gigglepies, neither of which Timmy wished for, though this could imply that "Cute, galaxy-conquering bunnies that taste like manure if you try to eat them" were some other child's wish.
5:09 Dude, this is Timmy’s parents we are talking about. If anything, they’d be doing anything but.
25:28 it happens when a common goal/enemy appears, like when they worked together to take down the kelp shake shop. I'd say it's a similar boat here:
Timmy wants his Faries back and to see them again, and Crocker wants to go to Fairy World to confirm its existence.
There's other plotholes in the episode, but this is one i can ACTIVATELY defend, as even as an early teen/young kid, i understood the idea
The thing that bugs me about this episode is the "why can't you wish for time to not progress" idea is something I thought of when I was a kid. I think there's a problem when you make a special around an idea an actual child would come up with.
He gave them the Pokémon time where theres multiple Christmases in a year.
In defense of episodes that would have Mr. Krabs and Plankton being nice to each other, it has been canon for years that they do play cards together on Saturday nights and are fairly civil with each other when not trying to be at one another's throats, so them being friendly every so often makes sense
Crocker and Timmy have never had anything like that and are always at one another's throats at all times
The many inconsistencies in this is just insane
I just realized something from watching this video. Timmy did 2 secret wishes
1. The non aging one
2. Making Cosmo forget about the first wish.
They keep track of all the wishes, wouldn't be weird if they just had a record of Cosmo forgetting something?
So it's technically 1 million and 2 wishes lol
9:32 Not only did he immediately fold, he folded knowing Foop had no evidence. Since wishing Cosmo would forget was another wish in itself. So Foops "he made 1.000.001 wishes" makes no sense since it would be 1.000.002 wishes.
Also Plankton being nice to Krabs is more believable than what happened here since they actually had a past together.
Honestly, the show should have ended after channel chasers, just like SpongeBob should have ended after the first movie. Nickelodeon has a serious greed problem. They don’t care if the shows we loved growing up dips in quality, they only care about money. I hope the same thing doesn’t happen with the reboot. I heard it’s pretty good.
YUP
Either that or shift the focus to his KIDS with the fairies instead. And if they wanted to shift back to timmy at any point just do a flashback special. BAM.
Supposedly the revived, not rebooted series, New Wish was good. For one thing.
Made the reward for 1 Million wish, be a RULE FREE wish *Replaced the muffin anyone could eat, to just letting the god kid make a freebee*.
Which she uses to do something Timmy SHOULD have done in Abracatastrophe, that being wishing that her friends could REMEMBER her fairies forever. Which as I said, Timmy could have done that in Abracatastrophe, wishing his parents could know the secret AND keep his fairies as a result.
The Season 6, 3 part movie Wishology was intended to be the Series final of the fairly Oddparents.
Eh, there are some very good and funny post-first movie episodes that come out before the show ACTUALLY took a nosedive (season 9/10)
Wasn't Fairly Odd Parents supposed to end in 2007 but Nickelodeon decided to bring it back with the introduction of Poof in 2008?
@@MrViho-le9oc It was intended to end after Wishology but Nick bought another season. Which also why Jorgen had to wipe everyone's memory of what happened during Wishology as well as everyone knowing that Timmy has Fairies.
Future Timmy Turner: You young fool, don’t you understand? (Unmasks himself) I am the good guy!
The big problem with Secret Wishes is that it undermines Da Rules in almost every way. Da Rules prevent Fairygod Kids from making/Fairies grant forbidden wishes, things deemed bad/unjust/unfair/etc. In theory, it should, but I guess using magic to cheat in a spelling bee is worse than wishing for rapid fucking animals to rain, raising the dead, or setting AN ENTIRE DAMN TOWN on fire. I degrees. So we know Da Rules are put in place to limit wishes for the better good, but what's the point of those if any FGK can just make a secret wish, BTW, WTH even is a secret wish? Is it some loophole that allows anyone to make any kind of wish that not even Da Rules can stop, Jorgan, or even the Fairy Council? Why does such a thing exist, who created it? Why does Timmy know about it? Just what are the limitations of a Secret Wish? It theoretically could be even more powerful than the Magic Muffin that can grant the wish of being the most powerful magical being ever & we saw w/ a SW that you can wish for beings that can eat/kill fairies. That said, after that incident, each wish has been monitored since then, so even if Cosmo wished to forget, how does that prevent whatever fairy is monitoring that specific wish to go unnoticed for 50 whole years? Side tangent aside, let's back to the point that Secret Wishes make Da Rules almost null and void when you can make seemingly normally unguardable wishes. This is a wish that not even the Fairy Council knew, that even stopped Da Rules & Jorgan from interfering, a wish that can make Fairy eating creatures & stop time (might I add that not even Father Time knew this happened), so what's to stop any FGK to use Secret Wishes to get passed Da Rules since they can also just have the Fiary that grants it forget. That also begs the question, can FGK's make more than one? Is there a limit? A cooldown? The existence of the Secret Wish just creates more questions than answers & muddies the already opaque dirty water.
& a small, little thing, but how is a _Secret_ Wish cataloged if Cosmo was also wished to forget ever granting it? This ties back to my earlier point that if wishes are now closely monitored, how did this slip by? Could it be that a wish is only monitored after it's done & the act of forgetting it just means it was never turned/monitored like it never happened? "But JoDaIs!", you cry, "It IS written down! Foop presents physical evidence of it being granted, so of course it was still monitored and written down!", astute observation, except Cosmo brought in all that evidence, which means _he_ cataloged the SW despite the fact _he_ was wished to forget. Even if Cosmos didn't write it down himself, maybe he got it from where the fairies store the wish list of FGKs, perhaps in a Bruce Almighty-type infinite file cabinet, but that means a Secret Wish that a fairy was also wished to forget, still, somehow, is cataloged, which should be impossible yet it's there somehow. So either Cosmo literally wrote it down as evidence against Timmy (which makes no sense since he was supposed to forget granting it) or Cosmo went to where they monitored & stored/uploaded the wishes & got it from there (which also doesn't make sense b/c for 50 YEARS no fairy noticed that Secret Wish file?)
This special or whatever sucks for various reasons & one of the big ones is the big fucking mess of the Secret Wish & just what that entails. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk, I'm frustrated to all hell, & I'm gonna go blow off some steam.
My guy …. This was an 11/10 comment, you hit every nail right on the head and i am super impressed. 👏👏👏👏
@@AggressivelyAverage
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Wow, very good points! It really doesn't make any sense
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Exactly, & I'm sure I can bring up more stuff & plot holes it makes, so for all I know, this could be the surface of the problems w/ Secret Wishes.
"I've learned my lesson, I won't make a secret wish again," says man who cheated 50 extra years out of life he wasn't supposed to have. Seriously, are we really supposed to believe he learned his lesson when he increased his lifespan by 50% MINIMUM, pushed his fairy deadline back much further than that, and sees zero consequences? That wish was a goddamn steal! Timmy made out like a bandit with that one! There's no way this show can convince me a lesson was learned here!
If Timmy stopped people from aging for 50 years wouldn’t that have made Timmy responsible for preventing babies from being born because of his wish?
The only thing that didn’t make sense to me is how Crocker looked considering how Timmy’s wishes were undone wouldn’t that have prevented Crocker from being an outcast and reverted him back to the way he was before Timmy went back in time and caused his fairies to be taken away?
Yeah, so?
Cosmo and Wanda's former Godkid starting World War 1 is some crazy work
Honestly, never thought about it before but Cosmo and Wanda actually granting that wish is wild 😂
I will never see this special as "canon" nor anything that came after. Timmy was never the brightest, but he generally meant well. He was a good kid. This episode alone makes him out to be an absolute monster.
And lets not forget they basically repeated the same plot of Timmy wishing to stay the same age forever in the awful live action movies.
Season 1-5 is the real Timmy Turner. Everything else afterward can be shuffled into the live action canon for all I care.
@@blinkowarner3117 timmy is actually funny when he's made out to be a monster
Season 5 is when Timmy's character became the way he is lol.
@@zen821 which is why season 5 is notably better than the first 4 (and the oy!c shorts)
26:58 another thing, nobody aged over those fifty years, that includes the brain
Timmy was not a middle aged man in a child’s body, he was a child in a child’s body
The brain is biological, it grows with the rest of your body and is what we consider fully developed at 25
Please don’t tell me that you think the only aspect of “maturity” is how long someone has existed for
Kinda wouldn't be surprised if I heard the writters wrote this plot cause they think it'll be funny and shocking for kids without thinking twice about how much plot holes it'll bring up.
Really?
In defense of Timmy "turning -40", I actually have two possibilities for why it didn't happen. The first is that Cosmo didn't actually change Timmy's age, he just altered Timmy's body to resemble his 10-year-old body. So he was still 60, but with a body identical to when he was 10. And the second is that Father Time simply changed things back to "how they were" 50 years ago, making the physical age of Timmy's body irrelevant: he still existed in the time period Father Time set it to, and thus was not erased from existence.
But everything else, yeah, I agree with you.
At 18:09 it sounded like he called them the furry council lmao
Same.
Turn on captions at that part
They are never consistent with Da Rules. In Season 3 episode 13 abracatastrophe in that episode Timmy gets a rule free cupcake and that secret wish could have been a consequence from the cupcake but nope they disregarded that wish breaking rules can’t be granted and made cosmo grant it anyway
He couldn’t have made that time stopping wish from the cupcake anyway because he used it up to wish for Cosmo & Wanda to come back.
Jorgan or Cosmo and Wanda are always taking away his consequences and making everything right again. Timmy never has to confront the mistakes or problems he creates. I know it's a cartoon and it's not that deep, but damn. That is a great message to send to the kids, isn't it?
What are you talking about? He has to confront his mistakes all the time. Especially when magic can't be used to fix it.
Here's the thing, Timmy reached his millionth wish in 8 seasons, while Hazel reached her millionth wish in just 1 season. That's interesting and a bit shocking.
I haven’t seen the new wish but if Hazel really hit 1 million within 1 season that’s wild
@@AggressivelyAverage I'm serious!
The only reason I remember this episode exists is because every few months people use the Channel chasers and first episode clips to “disprove the haters”. The “I’m 40 but look 10” and “I’m not supposed to get older”. Stating it’s now somhow wrong to hate the episode because those lines prove it was foreshadowed.
Even though….they had context within the episodes….and one was a joke. And channel chasers shows Timmy grown up which by this episodes logic would be impossible.
I know it’s unrelated but it just annoys me a lot.
About 80,000 people die a year from old age. Timmy's secret wish saved 40 million lives.
If they're tracking unintended negative consequences, they should be tracking the good ones too.
"Imagine if there was an episode of Spongebob where Plankton was nice to Mr Krabs instead of attacking the restaurant."
Well that kinda happened in New Leaf. Even if it ended up being a plot to steal the Secret Formula.
Why do people keep peddling the lie that this secret wish nonsense applies to the first five seasons? Timmy literally mentions Poof as the reason made the wish. Use your brains, people!
Probably because timmy in that moment was nervous so he sounded like he added poof in after the fact also the little stuff Timmy mentions in the first 5 seasons aswell
I’ve been waiting for you to review this episode for years!
This special is the exact moment where the series Jumped the Shark. The plot of Timmy's secret makes no sense, broke all the established rules and the characters are portrayed so subpar. There's a reason why most like to forget this special ever existed.
Father Time used King Crimson the effects of time passing still happens but the cause and subsequent memories never occurred leaving his victims in a state of confusion
Not the jojo reference LMAOOO
I find it makes sense because he had over the show multiple birthdays over time but doesnt age
I end it at Season 7 with the Wishology trilogy being the end.
I've never watched a single episode of Fairy Odd Parents in my life, but I was very entertained watching this video. It seems like a great show, and I get your gripes with the disruptions to lore and logic.
7:00 okay but the rabid dingo rain wish was funny, you gotta admit
What we're talking about here is an episode that comes across like one of those cartoon conspiracy theories people come up with to ruin other people's childhoods. How many childhoods do you think were ruined by this episode?
writer roasting new jersey carrying this whole ass episode
I didn’t mind Poof at all, but why did Foop have so many episodes in the later seasons, when Poof was basically gone, I didn’t understand why the writers made Foop a main character
Honestly the biggest Problem with this episode is that it forgot the premise of the show. Child gets God like powers, to wish for things, but doesn't understand that solution to a problem are never as easy as it seems so everything goes back and he learns a lesson.
Like what was to point of that episode? You have to grow up? When did e learn that? Never, he only knew other people thought that would be a bad idea, but he still wouldn't know what was wrong with is wish.
What they should have done, is the whole trail would be starting with pointing out everything that Timmy caused a lot of problems, trying to show how is bad, and ending by showing that he make his wishes trying to help, or at least that he didn't knew what problems it would cause. Showing he wasn't bad, just that he acted like a child and made mistakes, and that's okay.
The show totally forgot that. he was a child, who would natural do make mistakes, but wasn't a bad person. Instead he made horrific wishes? Even that could have been part of a bigger point, maybe another episode in which he wished for bad things to happen, thinking he could just undo them with another wish, and learning that it is still horrific to wish for such things. By learning that it still effects people.
That in turn could show that Timmy also learns from his mistakes.
I also think the whole episode was meant to be different. Why is Crocker still his sage? I think there was a plot line showing him from a different much more human side, and how things went for him. Maybe that he made the opposite wish, like being an adult. It would have caused him to loose his fairy parents. And would explain why he is the way he is.
Maybe first version wasn't something the executives wanted or something.
3:23 actually, Timmy did wish to swap voices with Chip Skylark in one episode
The real question is actually "When did Timmy make the secret wish?" Did he make it early in the series? Or did he make it shortly before this episode?
Also, unrelated, but if he made 1,000,000 wishes in 51 years, that would mean he'd make about 54 wishes each day on average... does that seem like a lot to anyone else?
Gotta love the show's undying hatred for New Jersey.
21:47 "weird creepy man boy thing" 💀💀
Your pants are rather...Fancy
It happens in psyche k.
Spoilers:
The seasons are literally them all doing the same year again, but slightly aging.
You know, seeing the evidence against timmy in the segment at the court, I'm starting to believe that, YES, Timmy IS indeed the worst wisher even compared to that girl who made WW1. The long-term effects of the stuff Timmy did aside with also the lives that he took with some of these wishes, does put him, at a total, as worse than someone who made WW1 by counting.
This maybe could've worked if the 50 years were completely erased at the end, making it effectively a what-if scenario set in an alternate future.
i’ve never seen this but as a new jersian, i give it a 10/10 for the five nj references
I never understood how it was a secret wish when Fairy World has the documentation of the wish occurring
So they have a detailed list of all the wishes Timmy has made over the years... But not a single one of them dated?
I'm pretty sure there were a few episodes that showed timmy in a hospital where babies were
just born. And he'd go AWHHHHHHhhhh....
When I think about this episode, I have to tell myself that in the years before the secret wish is undone Timmy is still always functionally 10 years old in a way, in the sense that his frontal lobe and really the rest of his brain had never fully developed which would leave him with the judgement and cognition of a 10 year old. He can learn new things and mature mentally in some ways but never really have the impulse control or emotional regulation of an adult that might keep him from making poor choices. He's also pretty ADHD coded so his frontal lobe isn't going to develop at the same rate most likely. It puts him in this weird place of being 10 but also not 10, but it also makes him liking Trixie feel a little less weird? Like his interests and everything aren't likely to drastically change if his brain isn't growing.
Really the idea of letting children have god powers is crazy because Timmy is pretty tame when you think about how easily a kid would just wish for their parent to lose their job because they're tired of them not being home, or wish that they didn't have to go to school which would leave them fucked up for life and they'd never know why because they forgot about their fairies. But to be fair plenty of adults would do far worse lol
I don't blame Timmy, since his parents pretty much are idiots, and don't care about him at all, he sees Cosmo, Wanda, and Poof as his family, but you do got a point on why people hated this special, especially now things gotten worse with seasons 9 and 10, even a few bad episodes before the show went downhill for no reason, and that unnecessary live action movies, and spin off, even the reboot with Hazel, also known as cash grabbers.
I think maybe it’s like the ground hog day effect. In that after each year time basically resets itself.
"What if someone was 8 months pregnant" Bonnie from family guy is finally explained
50 years of the same class and still got F's☠️
If only they'd tried harder to make the actual secret wish work better in the plot. I laughed so hard at the twist bc honestly that's what I'd wish for too.
I don’t know what you mean. It all makes perfect sense…. for an Fairly Odd Parents episode..
Like seriously, you are complaining that a FoP episode doesn’t make sense?
*THAT’S THE JOKE*
These are Timmy's parents we're talking about. Of course they're not looking for him. He has Fairy Godparents because of their neglect.
You'd think of how many times Timmy has saved FairyWorld and him being "the chosen one" he'd get to keep his fairies forever.
This episode could have worked as a series finale if they had changed 2 things about it. 1) Foop is the 1 who set up the parade showing all the damage Timmy caused from his wishes since he wants Cosmo, Wanda, & Poof to be taken away from him. 2) The trial brings multiple characters from Timmy's parents, his friends, enemies, & even old characters who hadn't been on for a long time to help show both the good & the bad he did with his Fairies. At the end of the episode, the Fairy Council states that while Timmy isn't a perfect godchild he doesn't deserve to have Cosmo, Wanda, & Poof taken away from him, so they let Timmy keep his Fairies, Foop gets punished, everyone goes back to Earth with their memories erased, & Timmy starts making more wishes to try to reach 2 million. By going this route as a finale & ignoring the 2nd half of this episode it would have ended the series on a good note rather then the boring/forgettable way it did.
honestly if this special had been a prequel to Hassle in the Castle on how Maryann made the wish to instigate WW1 and make that a secret wish it would have been an interesting special
The implication of him being an adult in a child’s body is uncomfortable, the writing is so inconsistent it’s hilarious to think about 💀💀💀
15:50
Because he was disguised as him mom… wait a minute
Episodes like this prove how the show's timeline is all over the god-damn place.
that episode was made to explain how he never advanced in grade level or aged even though the holidays and years went by in a loop you dont keep a homeroom teacher until high school in some parts
Just started watching but... Timmy leading the search on the title sequence, then passing out with a 🤫 makes sense if you consider Timmy is lying. He has been pretending not to know about the secret wish for 50 years, so him pretending to figure out a "mystery" he already knows the answer to makes sense. Even the "🤫" implies he has a secret he wants kept quiet. The episode is called "Timmy's secret wish". They're not exactly trying to hide that Timmy has a secret.
Edit: now that the video is over you were spot on about almost everything. There have been episodes of spongebob showing that Mr krabs and plankton's rivalry is more friendly than malicious. They don't hate each other and are happier with each other than without. They aren't enemies in the same way Crocker and Timmy are. That turn for Crocker is weird, but maybe 60 years of age and experience all hitting Crocker at once mellowed him out. Or maybe he just wants his mother to be less of a burden but I'm grasping at straws There.
And cosmo did once just rip a page out of Da Rules that forbade a wish, letting him grant it, so its not like there's 0 precedent for them just ignoring the rules for the sake of the plot. But this episode is still annoying and I hate it.
10:00 i like that you synced the footage to your voice lmao
When you realize that Timmy's Secret Wish is also the FINAL episode in the original Fairly Oddparents TV show to feature The Crimson Chin and Jay Leno, the Chin's voice actor.
Timmy’s Secret Wish doesn’t make sense to me
it makes bc if you are kid forever you just will have fun forever with your friends outside and going to school are you remember when you was kid if you are big you will understand it so if you was kid you have fun with your friends all day going in the day outside when you wake up and go to your freinds door house to ask them to go out and play wth you to have fun everyday to play with ball or something or to say some scary story everyday not to be stupid big man or woman alone in your home or just working all day what is more fun the first 2 things right ? to be kid and play with friends its so magical thing to call your friend in the day to play when you know the big people like your family working is super nice time to be kid for that he love to be kid forever but this is wrong bc time need to change bc one day you wil not learn nothing from the future bc you never gonna grow up and in one moment you will start feel stupid bc of that for so long time to do same things is fun to be kid and only play outside with friends but just in one point you will want to stop for little time or something to try new thing for that its make sense but is wrong only the end is stupid bc for for what all was angry and remove everything to fix the time when they just later back again to the old thing to everyone be kids again for that only the end not make sense but the wish was almost logic
Great video as always man!
no it's not