I Don't Strive to Climb The Corporate Ladder | Why I Won't Be A Good Manager
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Just want to have a conversation and maybe vent a little bit about management. I wanted to go over my reasons why I know I won't be a good manager and why you may be open either
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We are not management material over here 🤣 Let me make my money in peace behind the scenes lol
U are pretty
I'm with you. I'll take computer problems over people problems ALL DAY
Word the stress and politics are too much 😂
Whats the point of climbing the corporate ladder? Unless you work in finance, banking or medicine you will not be getting massive checks when you become a CEO... the best you can hope for is getting a pension or shares and a worthless certificate that you've been with the company for X amount of years. SO what's the point?
I never had the desire to be a manager. It’s more work, more responsibility, and sometimes more hours. I’m here to collect a paycheck and dip when its time.
Exactlyyy!! We will be just fine too lol
Exactly thank you
Thats why i love high-end sales (with commission). i can still be associate-level while potentially making WAY more money than an average manager.
A good friend of mind recently offered a manager job. She turned it down right away, because she wants to keep her social life and sanity.
I used to want to climb the corporate ladder until I got into the actual work field and NOPE!
It's not necessary anymore!!!! We are just fine chillin lol
I have 0 desire to be in management either. I'd rather work with and deal with tech than people.
I’ve been a manager in retail and healthcare. Though I just entered the IT world a few years ago, I feel like it’s all the same no matter the field. #hatedit I hate telling grown folks what they need to do. I also hate being on call while being paid salary.
I also hated the financial part in healthcare. I had to budget the funds for my program and explain every cent used. I hated the daily/monthly/quarterly/annual documentation.
Speaking to other folks that's been managers across different careers pretty much say it's the same work essentially. It's just a lot and I know it's stressful.
I agree 100% with what you said! Everything you said was spot on and exactly what im feeling.
I'm an E-6 in the Navy, I was promoted last year, and now I'm a leading petty officer (LPO) of a division of 12 people, and I fcking hate it! I would argue being a "manager" in the military is even worse than being one in the civilian world, because not only are you responsible for their professional lives you're also responsible for the personal lives. Every little thing they do will come back to bite or burden you somehow. If they dont make their bed in the morning you're going to get yelled at for it, if they forget to file some admin paper work you're a bad leader because you didnt remind them or werent tracking. If they get a ticket or get arrested you're going to know about it or have to show up to get them. If they dont get something done that has nothing to do with you, its your fault! I have to know where they are and what they're doing at all times of the day and be able to explain why or else I get yelled at by my superiors. I have to type up and edit all of their evaluations and awards packages. Which I hate ALOT! If they're not doing anything, I get this constant pressure from higher up to make stuff for them to do. If their uniform is messed up, somehow, no matter how small the discrepancy if I dont catch and correct it before someone higher rank notices it, I get yelled at. When we don't get out early enough, I feel like the guys on my team blame me for it.
You were so right about the meetings! My job has become so much more political since I got promoted. The number of meetings with other first classes, chiefs, and officers I get pulled into skyrocketed significantly. They're talking about nothing or nothing I care about in these meetings and it drives me crazy. There's a committee of other first class petty officers that I automatically got added to just because I got promoted and I didn't get a choice, so now I gotta go to their meetings, pay dues, and do whatever volunteer BS they sign us up for.
I used to not mind being in the Navy when I was an E-5, I would be assigned tasks/problems to solve, I would solve them, and then the rest of my time was mine. I, myself am an independent, libertarian type, I like freedom, autonomy, and being left tf alone. Now, I'm put into a postion where I feel like im baby sitting grown ass adults who arent that much younger than I am. Im constantly on the hook for everything they do (on & off the clock), I get multi-paragraph messages from my divisional officer about business at 8 pm when im trying to relax and decompress. It feels like a prison and im constantly waking up feeling anxious, angry, and depressed all the time.
So, now im planning on getting out and going into IT/Cybersecurity. It's not normal that I'm going through the five stages of grief every week. I dont like being a leader, I dont care for it, and I especially hate it because I was put into this position because I passed some test that they forced me to take. I was never really given a choice. (If you dont take the test its disobeying a lawful order) I never asked them to promote me, I was perfectly fine where I was. 😓
You and I are on the same page! I'm 45 years old and I STILL have no desire for management. Friends always tell me management is where the big money is but I like my peace of mind and I'm not willing to sacrifice it for money. I'm pretty good with empathy and accountability but I just don't want to do it.
Excellent video. This topic is not discussed enough. NOT everyone is cut out for management. However everyone wants a substantial pay. It also sucks that a lot of people who get supervisor or management positions are selfish, poor communicators, incapable of leading or taking constructive feedback. And since they can’t communicate effectively they have rule people with an iron fist.
I think I'll always want to stay a grunt and never achieve the coveted Senior tag on my title. As long as I'm making good money and I'm happy, I'll never want the extra responsibility and I'm for damn sure next taking any management role.
I'm just tryna talk to myself in the server room and get paid for it 😆
You caught me with the "spreading them cheeks" line
I did the right things. Got a degree, worked free overtime, worked free at home, dealt with office politics for years. Now I'm dealing with an uneducated, Narcissistic, maniac boss. You can tell those who follow the correct path and those that BS their way through life.
Great point & fully understandable.
I don't need the flex and happy to leave that to the blind ones. Management doesn't give you any power, more work and very little pay for the added stress. I don't want obligations for overtime, absences or staff that quit. I'm more than happy to remain a technical specialist.
It’s all fun and games until you’re getting bossed around by someone half your age and a quarter of your knowledge. Management is necessary progression.
This 💯
I once upset a manager by calling him a "professional meeting attender". He actually switched careers not too long after that.
😂😂😂
I want to be a “manager” at my job only because it’s 100% possible to have a manager title (due to workload and therefore increased pay) without people managing a single soul
In my role, I deal with upper management all the time. I treat them like regular peers because they are lol I get along with them very well
Amen!!!
Hey what's up Lise! Hope all is well with you. I share the same sentiment as you when it comes to management. I have always taken this stance because yes, I don't want to be responsible for other peoples mess. I know it doesn't always involve mess, but 9 times outta 10, you have to deal with complicated, sometimes unnecessary stuff and that's just not a lane I choose. Now not saying I can't do the job because I am a leader but like you, I like what I do very much and I like coming in, doing the mf job and clockin the Fuuudge out. Plus as a manager, you tend to move away from the tech and go towards the clerical and I didn't study all this shit to become a glorified baby sitter. Now no offense to all my managers out here, peace to you all, but it's just not me. You be easy, be safe and I enjoyed the video!
I actually landed a management job without actually managing. im kinda of like an account manager (basically), so i answer to higher ups all the time. Its killing my life to act like i care about the company. When they go off talking about "what keeps me up at night", like these fools really go home and think about work. Even though im a manager, im done when im done. They are already pushing me to go higher or move over. That is why im here. They wont let a brotha breathe. I been this position for 4 years and they already told me "you mastered this, its time to move on"... And to be honest, i still feel like i got a lot to learn. They are forcing me up the ladder and im afraid of heights.
The only “manager” position I held was a TAM role…the main reason I enjoyed it was because I could still be hands on in a technical way….if it was just a manager role though I wouldn’t have accepted it 😅😂🥂
I never thought it being a trade, but it totally is now I think about it!
Re being a manager. If you like working as a network engineer (which I do) why on earth would I want to trade that to go be a manager? It's a totally different job and, in my opinion, totally unenjoyable. They don't really get paid that well, they have to play the office politics game, they're more likely to get fired and most importantly they don't ever get to work on a network.
I almost feel like sometimes people who specifically aspire to be managers often aren't fit to lead teams.
I find that some people with a strong desire to be in middle management tend to be controlling and manipulative (and yuck). This isn't so much the case for upper management though. I've been an engineer for almost 20 years and almost all of my managers have been, lets just say, not the type of people I'd sit and have a beer with.
Hey lise! Question, Do you recommend going through the labs after completing all the course material? Or do you suggest going through the labs while going through the material?
Preach Preach, how about when co workers become mgmt. without any mgmt training. Like you said, you have deal with folks brown nosing / throwing you under the bus or using your intel against you in a meeting. Agreed, do my job, get the project done and go home. Disconnect until the next day. LAWD Micro Managing is the worse!!! I thought it was me. Nice Breakdown…. Bless
Zero training! I don't understand how you get training for the other roles but not.managment. or at least given the resources to ensure success. It's just "here" lol
@@certifiedcurls Agreed!!! It makes no sense. Your an IT professional and next your managing. Should be a mgmt tech out before allowing an individual to take on that new title. I’ve seen a lot in my almost 20 years in IT. Love your videos, keep at it. Inspiration!!!! Bless…
I've been saying this for years. I don't want to be a manager. Maybe that will change later but I have not wanted to be a manager for a long time lol.
I was told my opinion will change but.... No it hasn't and it won't lol. I think when you want to be one, you would have already taken steps to pursue that.
One day, you will be a Manager. By you looking back on these videos in the future; nonetheless, you will realize that you already had these "Management Qualities". Of course you will get tired through the transition, but continue to bob and weave with the punches.
Nah lol I'll never be one
Individual contributor... Probably til I die. Don't want to sign contractor timesheets...
I do not wanna to be manager either
100% management aint it!
Dealig with people, company politics, finance. NO THANK YOU.
Most management, in my experience, have stopped developing after getting their degree.
Also, lots of nepotism the higher up you go. Staying on the engineering removes a lot of gatekeepers and ass kissers.
Yeah I’m in the same mind set. I have had a couple opportunities to get mgmt roles but I’m like nah I’ll stick to my engineering/ architecture role. Not trying to manage a bunch of incels 🤣😂🤣
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🤔🤔🤔 wondering what spurred this video .😅
Lol nothing. 😂
You sound perturbed 😮😅
😂 I dont think so lol