Stop Getting Dropped By Your Friends When Riding | How NOT to Bike with Ben Cathro

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  • How do you stop getting dropped by your friends? The question is not where are they finding speed, but rather where are you loosing speed?
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  • @knowledgeseeker2720
    @knowledgeseeker2720 6 місяців тому +33

    Love Ben’s videos , bout the only PinkBike I watch.

    • @superchickensoup
      @superchickensoup 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah unfortunately for me I find lots of the others super annoying, I can listen to Henry though

  • @strutstipher
    @strutstipher 6 місяців тому +47

    I loved Ari Vatanen's reason why Sabastian Loeb was the fastest Rally Drive in the world. "Because he brakes less than everybody else"!

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +9

      Man, Ari must have really liked his home made cookies if he couldn’t give up the baking. 😊

    • @strutstipher
      @strutstipher 6 місяців тому

      @@BenCathro Ari was 1981 World Champion 😃

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +8

      His oven must have been broken that year I guess 🤷‍♂️

    • @edrcozonoking
      @edrcozonoking 6 місяців тому +1

      To be fair if you're baking cookies all the time you have no time to practice your driving.

  • @fabiovaldesaraneda2012
    @fabiovaldesaraneda2012 6 місяців тому +17

    Ben is the only reason i watch pinkbike videos

    • @knowledgeseeker2720
      @knowledgeseeker2720 6 місяців тому +1

      @@fabiovaldesaraneda2012 I second that.

    • @tj12_12
      @tj12_12 5 місяців тому

      Same here.

    • @davidrioux611
      @davidrioux611 2 місяці тому

      I have to agree with you, especially after the more other videos I watch!

  • @WorkLessRideMore
    @WorkLessRideMore 6 місяців тому +4

    Im usually the fastest in my group, but I love riding with people who are faster it pushes me and I love following someone faster to find different lines.

  • @casestudymtb
    @casestudymtb 6 місяців тому +41

    Man, having enough speed isn't the problem, it's feeling confident, in control and able to process the trail coming at you at higher speeds. I rarely ride anywhere near my top speed because my brain is dookie and can't make sense of what's coming at me.

    • @beno9966
      @beno9966 6 місяців тому +6

      Most of that comes down to the rider's body. Flexibility and strength. If you are always holding on for your life and not in control, it's always going to feel like you are going too fast.

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +13

      Which is why the main tip in the video is bringing the eyes up more and sooner. It gives the slow brain more time to process what’s happening allowing you to relax and be more confident. Speed isn’t the goal in this scenario, it’s comfort and flow which results in the bonus of higher average speed.

    • @caljcam
      @caljcam 6 місяців тому +2

      Happens with age too, my dad still has the fitness and bike handling, but his brain doesn't process the trail as fast as it did, so his top speed is quite a bit slower than 5 years ago, regardless of where he's looking.
      Looking up is still the number 1 tip for any rider

    • @billvandusenmusic
      @billvandusenmusic 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@BenCathro This true. The flow is so important. I am not the fastest rider but I have had plenty of PR's that surprised me because I wasn't trying as hard and felt like I was going slower. In hind sight this feeling was probably because I was looking further ahead giving myself more reaction time. I sometimes repeat the mantra "Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast." (while staying off the brakes as much as possible of course)

    • @justinfournier1285
      @justinfournier1285 6 місяців тому

      That’s how I feel when I jump. Small jump but my brain freezes and I can’t even see a landing.

  • @francisdee9955
    @francisdee9955 6 місяців тому +9

    cathro is sooo good at presenting👌

  • @davidrioux611
    @davidrioux611 2 місяці тому

    I always ride with friends that are able to drop me!
    No matter how much improvement I have, I still try to surround myself with riders better than me. Keeps me learning.

  • @drifterdogs
    @drifterdogs 6 місяців тому +3

    Since this is DH focused I want to justs say that I think pumping flat terrain that doesn't look pumpable is the KEY to riding flatter terrain quickly.

    • @JoeIsCrazyWillman
      @JoeIsCrazyWillman 5 місяців тому +1

      Indeed! Plenty of things you can pump and push into (or un-pump/unweight over something that would slow you down)

  • @justsayin3600
    @justsayin3600 6 місяців тому +1

    This is one of the most helpful vids I've seen that I can remember.

  • @adamschindler5766
    @adamschindler5766 5 місяців тому

    Hats off to the production team. The assignment got gotted

  • @papapelatomtb
    @papapelatomtb 6 місяців тому

    We need Ben as a Unesco heritage !! So good to watch this vids.

  • @tj12_12
    @tj12_12 5 місяців тому +1

    It is pretty amazing how relevant Ben's videos are compared to the rest of Pinkbike's content. Maybe they can get him on the podcast

  • @gernottoventile_mtb
    @gernottoventile_mtb 5 місяців тому

    How is Mr. Cathro this educated and comical at the same time? Great vid!

  • @bicikircho
    @bicikircho 6 місяців тому

    each ben's video is better than the one before. great explanation, true pedagogie in here!

  • @RepayEvilWithGood
    @RepayEvilWithGood 4 місяці тому

    I used to take turns exactly like you do until I broke my collarbone and started to question what I was doing wrong. Maybe you can elaborate as to why you take a left turn and have your left foot forward instead of back. The opposite foot forward has been a massive game-changer!

  • @ninovignes_
    @ninovignes_ 6 місяців тому

    Wish i had teachers like Ben at school😂 love this guy

  • @dannyrufrano981
    @dannyrufrano981 5 місяців тому

    I love this series if Ben's vids!

  • @JosephSAi2HT
    @JosephSAi2HT 5 місяців тому

    We see the quick stop in between chair to chalkboard to get a haircut 💇‍♂️. Looking good to present Ben C!

  • @pishkote
    @pishkote 6 місяців тому

    Thanks Ben for the tips for the corner (2nd clip) that has been my nemesis for a while! I'll be dropping my mates for sure now!

  • @m080s2
    @m080s2 6 місяців тому

    When you have discord build up in a Bike / Shreed Group, I recommend splitting up for one or two runs and then meeting up and seeing if riding together is more satisfying.
    Kind regards and Keep the good Videos up
    Mario

  • @dazzanzl
    @dazzanzl 6 місяців тому +2

    On certain sections I've found when i ride with heavier riders i have to pedal to keep up with them just rolling the mass seems to make them faster on some sections naturally. Same goes when i ride with lighter mates i carry more trail speed uncontrollable variable sort of but noticeable lol

  • @darwin4375
    @darwin4375 6 місяців тому +1

    I would love to see a video about how to ride over wet slippery root sections especially in tight steep switchbacks. I juist can’t ride them.

  • @celticsone_
    @celticsone_ 6 місяців тому

    I feel like looking forward is a matter of picking a line and pray everything will go right.

  • @jeranemo5504
    @jeranemo5504 5 місяців тому

    That was a very good video! Now need to go practice getting over the front, committing and looking ahead with confidence 👍 easy 🤪

  • @shredderdad6995
    @shredderdad6995 6 місяців тому +5

    The Rock feature at the beginning of the video is at my local trail in frederick, Maryland watershed. Trail name (soccer mom). 🤙🏾🔥

    • @CoderShare
      @CoderShare 6 місяців тому +1

      The shed is a good time

  • @Wharny
    @Wharny 6 місяців тому

    Cheers Ben, always instructive. Spotted your Dakotah Norton style bars!!

    • @jonreedy467
      @jonreedy467 6 місяців тому

      Ben was doing it before it was cool.

  • @MrNamesjeff17291
    @MrNamesjeff17291 6 місяців тому

    Cheers Ben 🎉

  • @chrishottinger3510
    @chrishottinger3510 6 місяців тому

    Hey Ben, if you could post some ride footage with a graphic that shows front and rear braking during the footage that would be quite informative for us ham and eggars!

  • @oesdrummer
    @oesdrummer 6 місяців тому

    I know that first feature! The shed!

  • @edarnold99017
    @edarnold99017 6 місяців тому

    Nice concept and video Ben

  • @dreggbatz
    @dreggbatz 6 місяців тому +5

    High Rise Bars ftw, Dak wins!

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +3

      I would never have considered them if he hadn’t gone big. All hail the Dak Stack.

    • @craigfroome393
      @craigfroome393 6 місяців тому

      Pretty sure Ben was riding hi rise bars when Dak was still in School!

  • @adammoonface
    @adammoonface 5 місяців тому

    Ben not on a Santa Cruz!? Although the Deviate is a classy choice! My man

  • @meowster934
    @meowster934 6 місяців тому +25

    Lil pp top left of the chalk board 😉

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +4

      Hah, wondered who’d spot it 😂

  • @ignatiusrobinson
    @ignatiusrobinson 6 місяців тому

    ive done that feature in the intro and the run-in tries to push you to the right even though you need to stay to the left. ive also clipped that tree on the right with my bar and rode it out.

  • @BrawndoDrinker
    @BrawndoDrinker 6 місяців тому +6

    One word - Corners.

  • @BigRed-MWA
    @BigRed-MWA 3 місяці тому

    Spot on video once again Ben..👍
    I still don't know why so many fools out there wast so much time doing whips /Cross ups during a race???
    How many bmx racers do you see doing this during a race?
    Yeah looks cool. But usless..🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
    Wasting energy and adding more wind resistance.
    Adding micro seconds each time your sideways!
    Instead of riding smooth and being fast as possible.
    Always look ahead and ride the smoothest line's.

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 6 місяців тому +3

    Ben Cathro is one engaging mf'er - dude could read the dictionary and I'd be drawn in

  • @johncast9565
    @johncast9565 6 місяців тому

    #1 Not understanding the Terrain
    #2 Not looking far enough ahead
    #3 Bike Set up
    #4 Fitness
    #5 Pumping Bike
    #6 Cornering Bike
    If you are even a average joe at all these you will drop 99% of riders.
    Shred on!

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday 6 місяців тому +1

    You guys got hold of the Schwalbe radials yet to review?

  • @Silverring4
    @Silverring4 5 місяців тому

    Upper Left Corner of Blackboard... Once you see you won't unsee

  • @qualm43
    @qualm43 6 місяців тому

    the vast majority of MTB technique videos are useless.... This one is actually great.

  • @mahau9531
    @mahau9531 6 місяців тому +4

    If your Friends drop you because you´re not as fast as them you should get some better friends i guess

  • @Darius_Indrei_MTB_life
    @Darius_Indrei_MTB_life 5 місяців тому +1

    Jokes on you, I don't have any friends

    • @th3gughy
      @th3gughy 5 місяців тому

      Same!! Let's not be friends ❤

  • @Canweatleastry
    @Canweatleastry 6 місяців тому +2

    "Completed it mate" I miss the Inbetweeners

  • @emonty62
    @emonty62 5 місяців тому

    I would like to see a video for uphill technique......

  • @lisamarie2456
    @lisamarie2456 6 місяців тому +2

    Nah we never drop people- we just wait at the bottom, and support people to grow. However some rides we do we can't take some friends as we do downhill which some don't have the confidence to even try- so we have to be honest with them if it's going to be a ride they will walk/won't enjoy.

  • @cornishcactus
    @cornishcactus 5 місяців тому

    If I'm confident I can keep up, but it doesn't take much to kill that.
    Slight slip I wasn't expecting, confidence in grip gone.
    Track too rough for me, confidence I can hang on gone, stiffen up, small bumps act like big bumps, strength gets used up too quick confidence drops more.
    Unknown obstacle, even a small rock, drop or branch I can't quite see over, is there a tyre grabbing puddle or soft mud the other side. Then you've slowed too much to easily ride over it as if it wasn't there.

  • @mr.peters6483
    @mr.peters6483 6 місяців тому +1

    Some people are just better and will always be faster.

  • @ref498
    @ref498 6 місяців тому +8

    Ben, how are you liking the Dakotah Norton bar height?

    • @BenCathro
      @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +5

      They’re a tool to get the stack height I’m after without running too many stem spacers. The stack on the deviate is low so I had to get extreme with the setup. I kinda like how striking and old school they look though.

    • @thermonuculur
      @thermonuculur 6 місяців тому

      I did this on a Capra, though not as extreme. With a 50mm rise bar and a slammed stem I eeked out a tad more reach and made a 484 reach bike fit like a 490.

    • @ref498
      @ref498 6 місяців тому

      @@thermonuculur Interesting that the higher bars gave you MORE reach. Did you roll the bars forward?

    • @Michael_De_La_Rosa
      @Michael_De_La_Rosa 4 місяці тому

      @@ref498He must mean he slammed the stem all the way down to compensate for the reach robbed from the higher bar height?

  • @intelligenttechnologies2476
    @intelligenttechnologies2476 6 місяців тому +1

    Was cleaning the chalkboard necessary for viewing the iPad?

  • @bionic909
    @bionic909 6 місяців тому

    So… how do you convince yourself to be more confident and stay on the offensive? I think this is the golden egg.

  • @viktorhaggstrom9036
    @viktorhaggstrom9036 3 місяці тому

    Clearly I need to improve my colour-matching, that will make me way faster

  • @Rosco0754
    @Rosco0754 6 місяців тому

    FEAR.....FEAR OF HURTING MYSELF SLOWS ME DOWN😅

  • @nickthaskater
    @nickthaskater 6 місяців тому

    12:09 can we get an "Art Class w/ Ben" video, please?

  • @justinfournier1285
    @justinfournier1285 5 місяців тому

    I am SUPER distracted by the DAK STAK ATTAK!!

  • @kam1l0
    @kam1l0 6 місяців тому

    You better tell me how to make T type work with a XT Cassette :P

  • @MarcMcCormic.26x4Fatbike
    @MarcMcCormic.26x4Fatbike 2 місяці тому

    OMG, l made the same, timing 9:26 , falling on the tarmac road 😢 so much pain, the next day at 5 am l was at the hospital and saying I'm not good, check this out 😢
    The problem was a downhill corner, the road made a lacet and l would like to cut by the soil, l made it a few turns ago, all was fine.
    But, just before the crash, l saw a huge step to drop. Ok no problem for me as usual, but the landing is a road 2 m Large, the speed is too high, l have to slow down. If l don't slow down l will do an OTB in the hill 👇
    No dropped, with brakes, leads to the freaking asphalt impact of the year, on my right side. Pain and blue for at least 2 weeks.
    It was in France, so l spend 4 hours in this hospital for crap services haha
    Hopefully, my head doesn't touch the floor, because I was riding naked head.
    Nowadays l prefer wearing a full integral helmet, just in case, we don't know.
    That doesn't decrease our style, but it could be hot inside sometimes but l don't care, security first.
    Tooth, knees, hands have to be well protected in my opinion 😊
    High 5 from France buddies 🎉

  • @theshockbro
    @theshockbro 6 місяців тому

    Who noticed the drawing on top left corner of the board? :D

  • @Edward.hughes.
    @Edward.hughes. 5 місяців тому

    What MTB bike is best for a budget around £500

  • @AndyLogan1984
    @AndyLogan1984 6 місяців тому

    Ben Cathro, made for YT

  • @tehalexy
    @tehalexy 6 місяців тому

    So i dropping all my friends at the uphill ... but there is nothing to do as just lose weight ... I'm with 110kg like 30kg heavier than the 2nd heaviest :(
    but I'm one of the fastest bumbling down the mountain :D

  • @chrisvigil5018
    @chrisvigil5018 6 місяців тому

    Look ahead and you shred. Don't pinch your neck. Keep your head up like you smelled something bad. Keep the blood flow.

  • @johnrowley7746
    @johnrowley7746 6 місяців тому +9

    *losing

    • @TeddyParker
      @TeddyParker 6 місяців тому +1

      im 100% convinced typos in titles/thumbnails are intentional... specifically for the reason you see below. comments drive engagement ranking. and boy oh boy does it work. how many ppl need to comment the same thing lol

  • @BenCathro
    @BenCathro 6 місяців тому +15

    I nevar said I could spel 😅

  • @CourtyardPigeon
    @CourtyardPigeon 6 місяців тому

    I'm losing speed when I brake because I don't want to die

  • @olrenison
    @olrenison 6 місяців тому +7

    Loosing? Loosing? 🙄

    • @JoseOjedaMTB
      @JoseOjedaMTB 6 місяців тому +2

      It should be "losting", amirite? 😂

    • @todd727300
      @todd727300 6 місяців тому +1

      So much for the "King's English."

  • @WaechterDerNacht
    @WaechterDerNacht 6 місяців тому

    Not even 4 min in and I've found my problem... Not enough colour coordination going on on my bike!

  • @tehalexy
    @tehalexy 6 місяців тому

    9:40 LOL do you really have to do him dirty in front of hundreds of thousand viewers? :'D

  • @evaboland623
    @evaboland623 6 місяців тому

    Substantial limbage

  • @RichardADastardly
    @RichardADastardly 5 місяців тому

    Did you drop the person who didn't know how to spell losing in the video description: "...but rather where are you loosing speed?"

  • @bri2233
    @bri2233 6 місяців тому

    Also.... remember speed and daredevil s***.... ARE NOT mandatory to ride MTB.

  • @tedgore5365
    @tedgore5365 6 місяців тому +3

    You guys have friends to ride with? :/

    • @Canweatleastry
      @Canweatleastry 6 місяців тому

      Bunch of crazies man. We should start our own club to ride with.

    • @fam4449
      @fam4449 6 місяців тому

      friends today, memories tomorrow

  • @nolangherity
    @nolangherity 6 місяців тому

    he didnt even mention multi track drifting...

  • @burningatthetrailhead
    @burningatthetrailhead 6 місяців тому

    Drop is like a cuss word

  • @theMelvinShow
    @theMelvinShow 5 місяців тому

    Jokes on you none of my friends ride so I'm always the fastest 😎

  • @TinyBoatNation
    @TinyBoatNation 6 місяців тому

    Has to speed this video up because the OP talks waaaay too slow. Maybe you should give him caffeine beforehand.

  • @erich8258
    @erich8258 6 місяців тому +2

    "Loosing"? Whoever does the Pinkbike thumbnails needs to do some proofreading.

  • @2VP
    @2VP 6 місяців тому +3

    Someone didn’t use grammarly

  • @ish474
    @ish474 5 місяців тому

    Just get slower friends

  • @brainpaint43
    @brainpaint43 6 місяців тому

    Is loosing a British spelling of losing?

    • @GnarlyGroove
      @GnarlyGroove 6 місяців тому

      Surely you'd know the nationality of Pinkbike's thumbnail guy.

  • @Riley880
    @Riley880 6 місяців тому

    Just skip the video and buy a ebike lol,

  • @xcx8646
    @xcx8646 5 місяців тому

    My word this video contains a lot of rubbish filler. Didn't get close to finishing it.

  • @JonMiles
    @JonMiles 6 місяців тому

    I'll happily let you film hours of mediocre riding to show everyone else how not to do it!