I was 💩my pants on day one. How do you feel about SIV? (Note: after the course, we had a debrief and Seiko analyzed all the maneuvers using the videos, so I already got all the advice I need to improve)
I would too if I had to re-learn stalls on a zeno after 5 years 🙈 fwiw upper body strength seems to be a somewhat common topic of discussion in accro and they must know a thing or 2 about manoeuvers. I for one love SIV. When done regularly, you can truly increase both your wing and self control. Watching the videos after one is also a good reality check on how much bandwidth we really have when the wing gets freaky. A final benefit stated by someone in my group a couple years ago after an incident during a XC flight: "je l'ai pas bien géré mais au moins grace au SIV, je l'ai pas mal vécu". Which matters a lot during long xc flight.
Great job! I also 💩 myself 2 weeks ago when I did an SIV in Annecy with Alex from go2fly. I just stepped up and got a EN-C 2 liner. The SIV was the best decision I made. It gave me the boost and a better understanding of my wing. By the way, I also struggled with the leg position during the spins and back fly. Saludos Joana!
@@timothee.gigout-magioraniThanks for sharing! I did 3 SIV courses in a row with my previous 3 gliders and it was interesting to see how I approached those compared to this time. What you say about upper body strength is true, and Seiko stresses it out. She works out her upper body a lot and I think everyone should do the same (specially tiny women with tiny arms like my 😂)
@@specialcarepatiosandpools7674good joob on doing an SIV with your new glider. It can definitely be a confidence booster! I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one struggling with my legs!
You don't need to get stronger to stall your glider properly, its more about the position and movement of your hands and shoulders and the timing and momentum you create when entering a stall. You need to keep the shoulders back and the hands move down close along the risers. Your hands started moving outwards and away from your body which weakens your lever. When you start the maneuver you can take advantage of the swing you create while breaking (kind of like you are on swing). If you break in a stady movement and go down a bit further but not wait down there for so long you should be able to enter the stall more smoothly and the wingtips will not go back so far, which will make everything less agile. Also after catching the shoot of your wingtips you should release your hand almost completely again and than bring them down to your backfly position. Its basically a 3 stage maneuver: stall, catch wingtips, enter backfly. Hope that helps.
Good point for training: taking your feet out of the pod for manoeuvres. I have only ever done a minimal SIV once at Annecy, most of my SIV has been getting whacked when there was no one to help…..AAAAAAAARG!!! I need to do a full SIV. I will be getting a brown corduroy flying suit and cycle clips in preparation! 💩👾👾👾👾👾👾😎
I like your brown suit idea, hehehehe. Yes, getting proper training is vital in a sport like ours. You'll get the tools to deal with potential incidents and most likely, you'll also get a confidence boost!
@@joannadigrigoli Definitely before I venture towards 2 liners! Having previously been to Annecy in spring for some 10 consecutive years, after watching your videos I feel the urge to come back…….I have ‘unfinished business’ there!! Thanks for posting!!😀
Thanks for the video! 8:42 - this shouldn't happen on entering the backfly. The trailing edge is flipped over here, so too much brake input. For a smooth backfly, the airflow must build up from the trailing edge. To achieve this, the trailing edge must be slightly bent down by the brakes (the so-called backfly hand position). If the pilot pulls on the brakes too much when catching the wingtips, the trailing edge flips over and the airflow cannot build up smoothly. This leads to the dancing wing and all those dynamic movements. Next time you practice full stalls, try to pay attention to this - make sure you keep a big part of the trailing edge open all the time. You'll be surprised how smooth you'll be going into the backfly. No stress, no shaking, not much effort required. Have fun with it! (You can check out a video "Full stall & back fly on a paraglider" on my channel if you want to see what I mean).
You’re welcome! Seems like I forgot to mention that this was during a course, and as one should expect, the instructor debriefs the students and tells them what they did right and what they need to improve. Oh wait… I did mention it was a course 😉
@@joannadigrigoli Yes, that's right. But you kept saying "the entry was good" when it really wasn't, so I wasn't sure you were aware of that point. Fly safe! 🙌
Nice work! It's always impressive to see the climb these winf gets exiting spiral! A little mistake I see on quick exit and might actually just be perspectives but it looks like you catch the wing before it goes above your head on the clip of your stong side. Idk if it is on purpose, perspective or actually different piloting "theorie / view" but from how I understand wing behaviour it is bad practice as the wing is pretty fragile as it might not have got enough energy back. (I mainly fly acro and miniwing atm and don't fly that high aspect ratio wing so maybe there's a reason^^')
Doesn't matter when you start the catch but if you start early you have to keep the brakes on for longer - a strong shoot will go to the horizon anyway. A deep and late catch is much more efficient and is what you need for stall exits and recovery from frontals so that's why SIV instructors like to see a late catch - it just takes a bit more mental strength. The wing is not really fragile with early catches to rapid exits - there is too much energy to stall it anyway - but if you keep brake on during the back pitch - it will pitch even more and give a stronger shoot. I think it's more or less the same for all wings - I don't have an acro wing though, just a mini wing and I used to have a freestyle
@@joannadigrigoli Ahora ando entrenando con el pana Burro Johan de aquí del Junquito , quiere hacer un poco más de prácticas para ir hacer el SIV a Merida
I feel like you could have waited a bit longer before hitting the brakes on the first exercise :) EDIT: Indeed it takes allot of power to intentionaly stall your wing. Even as a man I was supprised by how much I had to pull and wrap my brake lines.
I was 💩my pants on day one. How do you feel about SIV? (Note: after the course, we had a debrief and Seiko analyzed all the maneuvers using the videos, so I already got all the advice I need to improve)
I would too if I had to re-learn stalls on a zeno after 5 years 🙈 fwiw upper body strength seems to be a somewhat common topic of discussion in accro and they must know a thing or 2 about manoeuvers. I for one love SIV. When done regularly, you can truly increase both your wing and self control. Watching the videos after one is also a good reality check on how much bandwidth we really have when the wing gets freaky. A final benefit stated by someone in my group a couple years ago after an incident during a XC flight: "je l'ai pas bien géré mais au moins grace au SIV, je l'ai pas mal vécu". Which matters a lot during long xc flight.
Great job! I also 💩 myself 2 weeks ago when I did an SIV in Annecy with Alex from go2fly. I just stepped up and got a EN-C 2 liner. The SIV was the best decision I made. It gave me the boost and a better understanding of my wing. By the way, I also struggled with the leg position during the spins and back fly. Saludos Joana!
Are you brazilian?
@@timothee.gigout-magioraniThanks for sharing! I did 3 SIV courses in a row with my previous 3 gliders and it was interesting to see how I approached those compared to this time.
What you say about upper body strength is true, and Seiko stresses it out. She works out her upper body a lot and I think everyone should do the same (specially tiny women with tiny arms like my 😂)
@@specialcarepatiosandpools7674good joob on doing an SIV with your new glider. It can definitely be a confidence booster! I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one struggling with my legs!
You don't need to get stronger to stall your glider properly, its more about the position and movement of your hands and shoulders and the timing and momentum you create when entering a stall. You need to keep the shoulders back and the hands move down close along the risers. Your hands started moving outwards and away from your body which weakens your lever. When you start the maneuver you can take advantage of the swing you create while breaking (kind of like you are on swing). If you break in a stady movement and go down a bit further but not wait down there for so long you should be able to enter the stall more smoothly and the wingtips will not go back so far, which will make everything less agile. Also after catching the shoot of your wingtips you should release your hand almost completely again and than bring them down to your backfly position. Its basically a 3 stage maneuver: stall, catch wingtips, enter backfly. Hope that helps.
Good point for training: taking your feet out of the pod for manoeuvres. I have only ever done a minimal SIV once at Annecy, most of my SIV has been getting whacked when there was no one to help…..AAAAAAAARG!!! I need to do a full SIV. I will be getting a brown corduroy flying suit and cycle clips in preparation! 💩👾👾👾👾👾👾😎
I like your brown suit idea, hehehehe. Yes, getting proper training is vital in a sport like ours. You'll get the tools to deal with potential incidents and most likely, you'll also get a confidence boost!
@@joannadigrigoli Definitely before I venture towards 2 liners! Having previously been to Annecy in spring for some 10 consecutive years, after watching your videos I feel the urge to come back…….I have ‘unfinished business’ there!! Thanks for posting!!😀
Grande Joanna!
Thanks for the video! 8:42 - this shouldn't happen on entering the backfly. The trailing edge is flipped over here, so too much brake input. For a smooth backfly, the airflow must build up from the trailing edge. To achieve this, the trailing edge must be slightly bent down by the brakes (the so-called backfly hand position). If the pilot pulls on the brakes too much when catching the wingtips, the trailing edge flips over and the airflow cannot build up smoothly. This leads to the dancing wing and all those dynamic movements. Next time you practice full stalls, try to pay attention to this - make sure you keep a big part of the trailing edge open all the time. You'll be surprised how smooth you'll be going into the backfly. No stress, no shaking, not much effort required. Have fun with it! (You can check out a video "Full stall & back fly on a paraglider" on my channel if you want to see what I mean).
You’re welcome! Seems like I forgot to mention that this was during a course, and as one should expect, the instructor debriefs the students and tells them what they did right and what they need to improve. Oh wait… I did mention it was a course 😉
@@joannadigrigoli Yes, that's right. But you kept saying "the entry was good" when it really wasn't, so I wasn't sure you were aware of that point. Fly safe! 🙌
Nice work! It's always impressive to see the climb these winf gets exiting spiral!
A little mistake I see on quick exit and might actually just be perspectives but it looks like you catch the wing before it goes above your head on the clip of your stong side. Idk if it is on purpose, perspective or actually different piloting "theorie / view" but from how I understand wing behaviour it is bad practice as the wing is pretty fragile as it might not have got enough energy back. (I mainly fly acro and miniwing atm and don't fly that high aspect ratio wing so maybe there's a reason^^')
Doesn't matter when you start the catch but if you start early you have to keep the brakes on for longer - a strong shoot will go to the horizon anyway. A deep and late catch is much more efficient and is what you need for stall exits and recovery from frontals so that's why SIV instructors like to see a late catch - it just takes a bit more mental strength. The wing is not really fragile with early catches to rapid exits - there is too much energy to stall it anyway - but if you keep brake on during the back pitch - it will pitch even more and give a stronger shoot. I think it's more or less the same for all wings - I don't have an acro wing though, just a mini wing and I used to have a freestyle
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Great editing, I just did a week at Annecy and it's an amazing place. Who did you take the lesson with?
Thanks! I did it Seiko Fukuoka from Airlinks Academy. She’s a great instructor!
Joanna con esas caras de terror que pusiste , hasta calambres en el estomago medio ya no quiero hacer mi SIV tengo miedo 😢
Jejejeje, la próxima me pongo el casco integral. No tengas miedo! Haz un SIV, vas a ver que te va a dar muchísima confianza.
@@joannadigrigoli Ahora ando entrenando con el pana Burro Johan de aquí del Junquito , quiere hacer un poco más de prácticas para ir hacer el SIV a Merida
I feel like you could have waited a bit longer before hitting the brakes on the first exercise :)
EDIT: Indeed it takes allot of power to intentionaly stall your wing. Even as a man I was supprised by how much I had to pull and wrap my brake lines.
That’s why you can hear the instructor say “it’s getting better”, and not “good job” like the other ones.
Wing overs ??
Next time, maybe.