It was really surprising for Zack to come out and tell everyone that this movie will have a different, and much better version that comes out another time. He's never done that.
Fun fact: this movies original working title was "Aqua Reaping". This was in reference to the fact that Zack Snyder just straight up copied star wars while changing a few words, as the original working title for star wars was "Blue Harvest"
James and mason need to video record themselves. I would love to see them sit in a room talking to each other with mics in front of them just to see their facial expressions
Great news! Rumour has it that the long awaited and soon to be released Snake Eyes review features exactly that! Make sure you get it watched so you're ready for the video
@@unlikelycircumstances1986 I have it under good authority that the Snake Eyes review will also feature a tour of the studio, Maso shaving his beard off live on air, and the pair of them wrestling for the right to claim Fox Maid Marian as their own.
I think it's absolutely hilarious that Claire has the exact same sense of humor as her husband. When she was asked what she thought of Rebel Moon and she lapsed almost immediately into the same tone and cadence of comedy as Mr. Sunday and Mason, I nearly lost it. It might be cool to one day have her as a guest for a short segment. It could be really interesting I think.
@@Akazainul Really? You'll have to excuse me. I've followed their UA-cam reviews for a while on Mr. Sunday Movies, (where it's always - as far as my knowledge goes - just them), but I'm new to their podcasts. I'll have to go back and listen to those episodes.
I can only tell you that the main girl's name is Korra and that there was a really beautiful long haired man. Cannot tell you a name and the light saber woman flickers in and out of my memory
“I was raised by my surrogate father, a Darth Vader-esque commander that taught me slow motion. I sure hope he doesn’t appear again.” “My lord, it seems Korra still lives”…well I wonder who that Hispanic Mark Ruffalo-type is??
44:05 "Wouldn't you love a new space opera saga?" YES I talked to everyone I know about Rebel Moon. I was so excited for it, and I wouldn't shut up about it. I was following the story from start to finish. The trailers looked cool, and I just wanted more epic sci fi stories. The disappointment I felt after finishing this movie was... a lot
I don't remember where I heard it, but Rebel Moon being described as "Star Wars if it were an aftershave ad" is pretty accurate. So the whole movie is dedicated to them finding a handful of people to help them fight off an entire army, and then in the final 20 minutes they go speak to the people who can supply them with their own army - I'd have probably started by speaking to those people tbh. If they'd gone there first, they might have even been able to get off the planet before the Space Nazis arrived. Instead, they spend way too long assembling a crew of... I guess people with unique skills? I still don't really know what skills they have. One of them is good with glowy space swords? I guess one can empathise with animals? Apart from the general guy and the one with the army, the others don't seem super useful to have along for fighting off an invading army. It's like it wants to incorporate a cool heist movie aesthetic, but it doesn't understand what makes a cool heist movie, because there's no payoff in the form of seeing the team use their skills in a meaningful way. The pacing also felt off. The part on the farm felt very rushed, like Snyder wasn't interested in spending time establishing the setting. It's like he was in a rush to get to the "cool" parts of Star Wars, while at the same time slowing down all of the fight scenes so they felt boring, and having an underwhelming, visually confusing set piece fight at the end. Also, it felt like the movie was so proud of the "twist" of Charlie Hunnam's character betraying them - you see, it's the roguish Han Solo type who's only in it for the money, but instead of coming to believe in their cause, he sells them out! That was actually a very interesting spin on the original Star Wars movies. That's probably why they already did exactly this in The Last Jedi with Benicio del Toro. It felt a bit less interesting seeing the exact same twist a second time.
and that viking sidescroller game that Ive already re-forgotten the name of. The last vikings? lost vikings? the three viking guys? who knows, decent game tho
A common argument online in support of Rebel Moon is people are saying because there's a longer R rated version coming of the movie that more of a bad thing will equal good and it will all of a sudden not just be a rejected star wars script
@@eighteen-naked-cowboysthank you. I genuinely don’t understand what people are talking about when they say its a huge improvement. Its literally the exact same terrible movie with more garbage in it. Everything bad is still there. It doesn’t fix any of the actual issues. In fact I think it makes the movie worse, cause now it takes longer for it to end.
@@eighteen-naked-cowboys I actually thought the justice league snyder cut was better. It was still a terrible movie, but it was better than the original. It is also possible, that it was better, but the extra length reduced how enjoyable it was in equal measure to the improvement.
Thanks for giving me something great to listen to on christmas day waiting for my meal, Rebel moon was exactly as you describe. I feel asleep for 10 mins near the end didn't know how they got captured by the space Nazis but didn't care. Also you say he's got full freedom but not enough freedom to real the full R rated version before this water down version not that another hour of snyder slow mo will make it much better.
I concur, "it's not good." And I had low expectations, but still wanted it to be good for a nerd like me. Im actually fine with kinda bad scifi.. Unfortunately, it feels like it was written by a 15 year old boy who's just discovered comic books also come in naughty and sexy ones and now thinks they can write naughty and sexy too. Also, really off-putting when (threatened or actual) sexual assault is used to give character development. Worst still, both scenarios are used to develop the same character (Kora) and we already know she's stoic and is hiding her secret, don't want people to know, hidden better than everyone elses powers, aka, our jedi in hiding. Love the show James and Mason, you have got me through many a night of being up with a newborn. Thanks heaps guys 👶
I actually believe it's the worst thing ever. The sexual assault on a male character just for her to save him was one of the most lowest common denominator scenes ive ever seen. It's just horrific, I said why out loud hahaha
Congrats on the newborn! I hope you get some proper sleep at some point 😅 you've nailed it, the whole thing feels so juvenile and shallow and about 20 years out of date. The idea that sexual assault makes the film 'grown up' (but not enough to get an R rating) is frankly disgusting and my opinion of Snyder and his audience sank even lower after that.
James - as much as Rebel Moon lifted from multiple sources, the font they used is, I believe, a distressed version of Arto Condensed Bold. My guess is Rebel Assault most likely used some form of Star Jedi - a custom font created for the Star Wars franchise based off of Helvetica Black. Because Rebel Moon did not have the license to use this altered version of Helvetica Black, the design department cherry picked, or harvested, many of the design tropes from Star Wars, which led to the original working title of Rebel Moon being Black Harvest, which is completely different from Blue Harvest - the working title of Star Wars 1977. (50% of this comment is true. Before anyone goes nuts, I know Blue Harvest is RoTJ. Also I wrote this before James corrected himself to Dark Forces…sorry!)
The world needs a Caravan of Garbage on Jupiter Ascending! Please?! I mean, you'd really be taking one for the team by watching it, but we all promise to like and share!
I wholly believe that right now the MCU can do without a team up for this saga. At least until the end of Phase 2. Not only will help them focus on everything between, but it will keep us from just expecting the post credit scene.
I really wanted Kang Dynasty though. The normies don't know Rama Tut, Immortus and Iron Lad at all and it would have been his Infinity War moment where we focus on Kang, see the Avengers from his perspective where they're insignificant and he constantly reboots his plan from the future. It would have been perfect but now they're prob not gonna embrace that perspective at all without Majors able to perform those facets so distinctly. I mean, Victor Timely was an ambitious choice and they trusted him to all our benefit. Incursions are inherently a team up level threat. I don't think anyone has stopped one single handedly except maybe Strange, Richards or Doom
I was hoping the Imperial soldier firing the cannons of the ship, who also drove the ship from the Gunner's turret, would kill them all in the final battle. Then when he dodged Bloodaxe's spear, that clearly shouldn't have been able to easily pierce glass that must survive in space, I let out cheer. RIP in peace that guy.
this was the final straw for me as well XD I was going like "man its a bit stupid he basically charges the gunner of a gunship with a spear, but I guess its also a bit bad ass" - then with his dying breath the dude flips a switch and the whole gunship comes crashing down ... even a shitty attack helicopter has a gunner separate from the pilot ffs - its just too stupid
The most positive thing I've heard about Aquaman 2: "Well it's not the worst DC movie this year" which isn't exactly setting the bar high lol (looking at you Flash)😂
@@zanelendlovu3285 A combo of several things, really. The Amber Heard thing. The fact that ALL DC movies were welcomed with sharpened knives ever since Man of Steel, maybe cause of some brand loyalty cause at that time Marvel already had a stranglehold on the market and DC seemed like an upstart trying to push their Pepsi Cola BS and Snyder doing his auteur thing to mixed reception. It was an uphill battle from the start. It didn't matter if the movie was good, every time the reaction was "Ugh, DC. You still here? Go away." Aquaman 2 was barely announced and people were already rolling their eyes and saying "Who asked for this?" even though the first movie made a billion.
@@rebel_diamondsthe first movie was also fresh, bold, dynamic. This feels like more of the same and a LOT of cgi whereas we want more practical with polish generally speaking. I wanna see DC branch out into diversity. They have Ivy x Harley, Steel, John Smith, Justice League Q and so on but they're scared to be too progressive lol it's depressing and pathetic to let Marvel just be the default super hero space for everyone including people right of center. Everyone is welcome at Marvel whereas I didn't feel that way until the Flash and the picked someone inspired for Supergirl 😭
@@ellaisplotting wow, thank you! I now know exactly how to describe how I feel about them hahaha. That's perfect. It's like generic and edgy done well, which is just not my vibe
Woke up this morning and made Brioche French Toast and scrambled eggs while finishing up the Wonka episode. Then sat down for REBEL MOON. It wasn't terrible. Just terribly cliché. It felt (and looked like) an entire season of a television show, of edited down to a feature film; A patchwork of A LOT of other (better) movies, and even games. I didn't hate it as expected, but that ain't praise. It's Dumb. 🎄 Merry Christmas Everyone! 🎄
It's just the sheer laziness that's really insulting. Like, Lucas famously wanted to make a Flash Gordon movie but couldn't get the rights, so he did his own thing. His thing had lots of influences from elsewhere, but when you watch it, it all hangs together cohesively and you're not taken out of the setting as you recognise all of the influences.
It's okay that you didn't hate it because I did so you get to lay back and enjoy my rage. What a stupid little film. Truly a disgrace to scifi. Should have called it Rebel Buffoon cuz if we wanted yet another shallow Nazi villain we'd watch Star Wars. I mean, they weren't even racist. At least be evil, but they're just like, farm harder! Oh wow, how intimidating. And then of course the leader just gets bopped unceremoniously. Shove off mate. Those men were bodybuilders they aren't gonna just stand there and believe if they work harder it'll be fine. Show us REBELS. Ones who lash out immediately and don't take the Empire's shit. Show them being wiped out. That's terror. That's triumph. The Foundation does this but better. Go enjoy it, it's a great slow burn
The Avatar moment also wholesale rips off Harry Potter riding Buckbeak in The Prisoner of Azkaban, right down to the griffin thing attacking the next person who tries to ride him, of course much more fatal than what happens to Malfoy.
Maso's question about Snyder staging action appears to have been answered/confirmed with the sequel to this film. Because that would require more creativity than Snyder has.
I take it back. You guys don't suck and I will give you a reason. Cause you make amazing content. Australia is much loved by Canada. Though I have heard deers & koalas ARE sworn enemies. 😂😂😂🦌🐨
When I'm mad in traffic, now I go, "SOMETHIN' RUUUUUDE", a la the Andrew Dice Clay impression from whenever ago that was. And no one knows I do that, and now you guys won't either. Because you famously don't read these, unless they have hate with an 8 in them.
5:24 I'd also bet money that when the JM thing happened and really picked up steam they were like "okay so if he's innocent we do X, if he's guilty we do Y" I doubt they waited until a verdict to think about what they would do if he was guilty.
As a huge Zach Snyder fan ive gotta say... I haven't really enjoyed any of his movies since Man of Steel. I know folks hate that movie but i really love it. Everything since BvS has been a huge let down. I will say that i dont think having his child commit suicide is helping him. I dont understand why he went back to work so soon afterwards. I think it would take me a few years to get back to the person i used to be, if ever at all.
@@tappajavittu I really like Watchmen, I used to like 300... But I also use to have a shirtless Jim Morrison poster in my room as a kid, if that means anything. I could do without Sucker Punch or Owl Fight either.. Hm, I guess I just really liked Watchmen and MoS lol . The other movies are pretty, There are cool scenes. I was severely disappointed after watching both cuts of BvS and I liked his version of Justice League alot better than the theater cut, but it still didn't live up to my expectations . I'm definitely not a Snyder Hater, But I'm not the type of fan that's gonna tell you I think a movie is good just because it's a Snyder film either.
@@CordellPotts You seem like one of the most reasonable Snyder fans I've ever met online, I salute you my dude. Thank you for actually answering me and not just giving me some "his movies are so deep you wouldn't understand them even if I tried to explain it to you" type of response that I've gotten from way too many crazy Snyder cultists. lol
Now I know if I should watch it or not. Or will when I get to that part. I'm still in bed, most sleep I've had in weeks from quitting Marijuana 🙃 finally done with the sleep withdrawal!! It's the hardest part in quitting. To the coffee machine, oh and happy holidays to you and yours reader. And if anyone wants advice on quitting things I came up with plans that work To the coffee machine batman!
Really enjoy all your reviews. Spot on most of the time. But in rebel moon, you missed one thing. Those stingray grabbing people harness things. Exactly a rip off from Beetlejuice dining table scene. The chairs grab them. They look identical.
Merry christmas and happy holidays, boys 💙 thank you for effectively summing up just how drab and shockingly lifeless that space movie feels... Well, I suppose I should call it by its actual title. "Watching People Being Recruited: The Movie." You both remain effortlessly charming and witty as per usual. H8 Mail makes me lose some faith in humanity.
Your new space opera is Saga and it has a giant spider lady who IS a bounty hunter. It would have to be R rated too if they were going to be true to the text. Have Snyder direct a Saga TV series. That would be awesome.
If Snyder goes anywhere near Saga...... please god no. Why TF would you want Snyder to direct Saga??? I want them ("Hollywood" that is) to stop adapting things that I love, because it's almost always a disaster.
Totally agree. I was just saying ZS is fine at directing things not writing them. And if people need an adult space opera it already exists. If Saga only ever stays as a graphic novel that is perfect. We don't need live action versions of every IP. Make movies of totally new things we've never seen.
You have. People keep remaking seven samurai because it's a really good movie. However this movie took the bold choice of taking just the recruitment segment of that movie and stretching it out to be a full movie.
I think permanent damage has been done. I’ve been watching James and mason for so many years, someone at work asked if I’m from Australia because of my “accent” I’m from and live in the states.
Best X-Mans present ever? Finding out that The Lost Vikings really existed, and isn't just a figment of my scrambled memory circuits. Or at least it's not just my own figment anyway.
Honestly I don't think the next avengers movies will be delayed, either they have someone else play Kang, as a variant. Or they have Dr. Doom or the Beyonder(s) show up and wipe out all the Kang's. Then they're the new big bad, seems pretty easy tbh. It's not like they're halfway through filming ot something.
If you want to see the original crappy space opera based on Seven Samurai, try "Battle Beyond the Stars", a good one for Caravan of Garbage. I think you'll enjoy it (if you're high).
We already knew everything we needed to know about Rebel Moon when Snyder announced he was going to make a “dark, adult Star Wars”. Not “I’ve got a great idea for a Sci-Fi series”, “I’m going to make Star Wars with tits”. The man hasn’t got an original thought in his head. He never has.
I think "that other guy" might be how Ben from Canada occasionally jumps in for 10 seconds every hundred videos or so? (Personally I love when Ben jumps in.)
I watched the trailers for Rebel Moon just now and good god does the movie look so insufferable. All the characters are trying to be too cool for school while being in the silliest sets and scenes. I hope Hollywood starts giving these opportunities to some other directors.
It was really surprising for Zack to come out and tell everyone that this movie will have a different, and much better version that comes out another time. He's never done that.
20 minutes into this movie my wife turned to me and said "This is just a live action Bug's Life"
Fun fact: this movies original working title was "Aqua Reaping".
This was in reference to the fact that Zack Snyder just straight up copied star wars while changing a few words, as the original working title for star wars was "Blue Harvest"
Please do Percy Jackson the new series I used to love the books, And home alone on caravan of garbage
@@Youknowmikekhan sorry bud, I'm not in charge of anything
Lmao I didn’t realize I was replying lmao
I like how you basically do this exclusively to fill James with contempt.
I guess they think anyone with the name Nick would have to be Nick Mason?
It's extremely weird.
Damn. Kang was so dangerous the real world had to stop him.
Damn, a real multi-versal threat, had to be taken out.
There's that guy in pornos that looks like Jonathan Majors who's going to have a longer and more fruitful career than the celebrity he looks like now.
K.E.V.I.N. from She Hulk did it
YES! More H8 mail, my favorite segment of the show.
definitely!!!
"Your accent is disturbing" Hahahahaha. I was feeling down but you cheered me up with your crop of humour- you might even call it a harvest of blues
"in the galaxy of Flimflam... There's an ancient race of Whatever-the-fuck..."
LOL best Star Wars opening crawl ever
You always know it's gonna be a great episode when there's a H8 mail segment.
Thanks guys
James and mason need to video record themselves. I would love to see them sit in a room talking to each other with mics in front of them just to see their facial expressions
Great news! Rumour has it that the long awaited and soon to be released Snake Eyes review features exactly that! Make sure you get it watched so you're ready for the video
Considering they record in a broom closet w no lights or power I don’t think it would work
YES Please
@@unlikelycircumstances1986 I have it under good authority that the Snake Eyes review will also feature a tour of the studio, Maso shaving his beard off live on air, and the pair of them wrestling for the right to claim Fox Maid Marian as their own.
Shirtless
I think it's absolutely hilarious that Claire has the exact same sense of humor as her husband. When she was asked what she thought of Rebel Moon and she lapsed almost immediately into the same tone and cadence of comedy as Mr. Sunday and Mason, I nearly lost it.
It might be cool to one day have her as a guest for a short segment. It could be really interesting I think.
She has been a guest in several episodes like when they review The Little Mermaid and Wonder Woman
@@Akazainul Really? You'll have to excuse me. I've followed their UA-cam reviews for a while on Mr. Sunday Movies, (where it's always - as far as my knowledge goes - just them), but I'm new to their podcasts. I'll have to go back and listen to those episodes.
who do you think writes the jokes XD you think those chumps manage to be funny on their own ??
The double exposition at the end just listing who the characters were was really helpful because I had no clue wtf was happening or why.
I can only tell you that the main girl's name is Korra and that there was a really beautiful long haired man. Cannot tell you a name and the light saber woman flickers in and out of my memory
Korra? Ok I’d missed that. To be honest, I’d forgotten about this comment and rebel moon until just now. Maybe it’s a sign?
“I was raised by my surrogate father, a Darth Vader-esque commander that taught me slow motion. I sure hope he doesn’t appear again.”
“My lord, it seems Korra still lives”…well I wonder who that Hispanic Mark Ruffalo-type is??
44:05
"Wouldn't you love a new space opera saga?"
YES
I talked to everyone I know about Rebel Moon. I was so excited for it, and I wouldn't shut up about it. I was following the story from start to finish. The trailers looked cool, and I just wanted more epic sci fi stories.
The disappointment I felt after finishing this movie was... a lot
I don't remember where I heard it, but Rebel Moon being described as "Star Wars if it were an aftershave ad" is pretty accurate.
So the whole movie is dedicated to them finding a handful of people to help them fight off an entire army, and then in the final 20 minutes they go speak to the people who can supply them with their own army - I'd have probably started by speaking to those people tbh. If they'd gone there first, they might have even been able to get off the planet before the Space Nazis arrived.
Instead, they spend way too long assembling a crew of... I guess people with unique skills? I still don't really know what skills they have. One of them is good with glowy space swords? I guess one can empathise with animals? Apart from the general guy and the one with the army, the others don't seem super useful to have along for fighting off an invading army. It's like it wants to incorporate a cool heist movie aesthetic, but it doesn't understand what makes a cool heist movie, because there's no payoff in the form of seeing the team use their skills in a meaningful way.
The pacing also felt off. The part on the farm felt very rushed, like Snyder wasn't interested in spending time establishing the setting. It's like he was in a rush to get to the "cool" parts of Star Wars, while at the same time slowing down all of the fight scenes so they felt boring, and having an underwhelming, visually confusing set piece fight at the end.
Also, it felt like the movie was so proud of the "twist" of Charlie Hunnam's character betraying them - you see, it's the roguish Han Solo type who's only in it for the money, but instead of coming to believe in their cause, he sells them out! That was actually a very interesting spin on the original Star Wars movies. That's probably why they already did exactly this in The Last Jedi with Benicio del Toro. It felt a bit less interesting seeing the exact same twist a second time.
Merry christmas to the boys at weekly planet and everyone here watching them!
James mentioning Vanquish is a jolt to my brain
and that viking sidescroller game that Ive already re-forgotten the name of. The last vikings? lost vikings? the three viking guys? who knows, decent game tho
James' son dunking on Snyder with no context whatsoever sums this movie up best I think
I don't know if it's a typo or intentional but "A Child on Fire" is hilarious
A common argument online in support of Rebel Moon is people are saying because there's a longer R rated version coming of the movie that more of a bad thing will equal good and it will all of a sudden not just be a rejected star wars script
I really loathe director cuts as a marketing gimmick
people also pretended the BvS ultimate cut improved that dogshit movie at all
@@eighteen-naked-cowboys ngl it made it a 4 to a 5 so 10% improvement lol
@@eighteen-naked-cowboysthank you. I genuinely don’t understand what people are talking about when they say its a huge improvement. Its literally the exact same terrible movie with more garbage in it. Everything bad is still there. It doesn’t fix any of the actual issues. In fact I think it makes the movie worse, cause now it takes longer for it to end.
@@eighteen-naked-cowboys I actually thought the justice league snyder cut was better. It was still a terrible movie, but it was better than the original. It is also possible, that it was better, but the extra length reduced how enjoyable it was in equal measure to the improvement.
Thanks for all the fabulous content fellas. Yall are delightful and i hope all your Christmas wishes came true.
34:00 it’s not a Griffin, guys, it’s the Buckbeak the Hippogriff scene from the 3rd Harry Potter movie.
*Insert joke about Rebel Moon's working title being Blue Harvest*
With the amount of copied ideas in that movie it wouldn't surprise me.
Thanks for giving me something great to listen to on christmas day waiting for my meal, Rebel moon was exactly as you describe. I feel asleep for 10 mins near the end didn't know how they got captured by the space Nazis but didn't care. Also you say he's got full freedom but not enough freedom to real the full R rated version before this water down version not that another hour of snyder slow mo will make it much better.
Ooh, I just realized that you titled it Child ON Fire, which I think is quite on point. Happy holidays, blokes!
I concur, "it's not good." And I had low expectations, but still wanted it to be good for a nerd like me. Im actually fine with kinda bad scifi.. Unfortunately, it feels like it was written by a 15 year old boy who's just discovered comic books also come in naughty and sexy ones and now thinks they can write naughty and sexy too.
Also, really off-putting when (threatened or actual) sexual assault is used to give character development. Worst still, both scenarios are used to develop the same character (Kora) and we already know she's stoic and is hiding her secret, don't want people to know, hidden better than everyone elses powers, aka, our jedi in hiding.
Love the show James and Mason, you have got me through many a night of being up with a newborn. Thanks heaps guys 👶
I actually believe it's the worst thing ever. The sexual assault on a male character just for her to save him was one of the most lowest common denominator scenes ive ever seen. It's just horrific, I said why out loud hahaha
Congrats on the newborn! I hope you get some proper sleep at some point 😅 you've nailed it, the whole thing feels so juvenile and shallow and about 20 years out of date. The idea that sexual assault makes the film 'grown up' (but not enough to get an R rating) is frankly disgusting and my opinion of Snyder and his audience sank even lower after that.
Happy Holidays guys.🎄 Thanks for all the laughs this year.❤
Zack Snyder seems like a nice guy. Hope he finds something hes good at someday
He seems like a nice guy. But he likes Rand which is sort of like saying someone seems nice but their role model is Satan
He's got a great build for landscaping, or pro wrestling
My sentiments exactly.
I think he could be a genuinely great director of cinematography. Just don't let him anywhere near the writer's room.
James - as much as Rebel Moon lifted from multiple sources, the font they used is, I believe, a distressed version of Arto Condensed Bold. My guess is Rebel Assault most likely used some form of Star Jedi - a custom font created for the Star Wars franchise based off of Helvetica Black. Because Rebel Moon did not have the license to use this altered version of Helvetica Black, the design department cherry picked, or harvested, many of the design tropes from Star Wars, which led to the original working title of Rebel Moon being Black Harvest, which is completely different from Blue Harvest - the working title of Star Wars 1977.
(50% of this comment is true. Before anyone goes nuts, I know Blue Harvest is RoTJ. Also I wrote this before James corrected himself to Dark Forces…sorry!)
I hate you but I love this
The world needs a Caravan of Garbage on Jupiter Ascending! Please?! I mean, you'd really be taking one for the team by watching it, but we all promise to like and share!
I wholly believe that right now the MCU can do without a team up for this saga. At least until the end of Phase 2. Not only will help them focus on everything between, but it will keep us from just expecting the post credit scene.
I really wanted Kang Dynasty though. The normies don't know Rama Tut, Immortus and Iron Lad at all and it would have been his Infinity War moment where we focus on Kang, see the Avengers from his perspective where they're insignificant and he constantly reboots his plan from the future.
It would have been perfect but now they're prob not gonna embrace that perspective at all without Majors able to perform those facets so distinctly. I mean, Victor Timely was an ambitious choice and they trusted him to all our benefit.
Incursions are inherently a team up level threat. I don't think anyone has stopped one single handedly except maybe Strange, Richards or Doom
I was hoping the Imperial soldier firing the cannons of the ship, who also drove the ship from the Gunner's turret, would kill them all in the final battle. Then when he dodged Bloodaxe's spear, that clearly shouldn't have been able to easily pierce glass that must survive in space, I let out cheer. RIP in peace that guy.
This INFURIATED ME SO MUCH
this was the final straw for me as well XD I was going like "man its a bit stupid he basically charges the gunner of a gunship with a spear, but I guess its also a bit bad ass" - then with his dying breath the dude flips a switch and the whole gunship comes crashing down ... even a shitty attack helicopter has a gunner separate from the pilot ffs - its just too stupid
I cant wait for Rebel Moon 2: What Even Is A Star Wars.
Rebel Moon 2: This Harvest is so Blue!
Cant wait for Rebel Moon part 3: oh, this too got cancelled like army of the dead sequel
@@tappajavittuI'm starting to think that Snyder works better when he's directing stories that he didn't write. Even then... questionable
Bloody love 'The Lost Vikings' mate, still remember some of the music from that game
The most positive thing I've heard about Aquaman 2: "Well it's not the worst DC movie this year" which isn't exactly setting the bar high lol (looking at you Flash)😂
39:27 James says “hello” and it cut to a mint mobile ad which starts with Ryan Reynolds saying “oh, hello.”
Why is Nick Mason even funnier with a headache and a neck crick? Because Nick Mason plays through the pain, baby. He plays through the pain.
And on this day, our podcast was born. Glory be!
Merry Christmas boys, just finished work so listening to this while heading home to a nice bottle of rum
Aww was hoping for Aquaman 2 this week. That movie deserves a bit better than its getting. Its pretty decent
I really liked it. Confused by the level of hate
@@zanelendlovu3285 A combo of several things, really. The Amber Heard thing. The fact that ALL DC movies were welcomed with sharpened knives ever since Man of Steel, maybe cause of some brand loyalty cause at that time Marvel already had a stranglehold on the market and DC seemed like an upstart trying to push their Pepsi Cola BS and Snyder doing his auteur thing to mixed reception. It was an uphill battle from the start. It didn't matter if the movie was good, every time the reaction was "Ugh, DC. You still here? Go away."
Aquaman 2 was barely announced and people were already rolling their eyes and saying "Who asked for this?" even though the first movie made a billion.
@@rebel_diamondsthe first movie was also fresh, bold, dynamic. This feels like more of the same and a LOT of cgi whereas we want more practical with polish generally speaking.
I wanna see DC branch out into diversity. They have Ivy x Harley, Steel, John Smith, Justice League Q and so on but they're scared to be too progressive lol it's depressing and pathetic to let Marvel just be the default super hero space for everyone including people right of center. Everyone is welcome at Marvel whereas I didn't feel that way until the Flash and the picked someone inspired for Supergirl 😭
This is my favorite gift I got for Christmas!
the scene when rebel moon obi wan gives rebel moon Luke Skywalker a gun made me chuckle
Left a Like for The Weekly Planet. Happi Holidays!
Davey Z’s triple play is the greatest idea ever
"losers laughing at their own quips" is an absolutely accurate description of this podcast, and it's why we love it lol
Zach Snyder is basically just A.I. if A.I. was a filmmaker.
Him and Gunn are indistinguishable for me and I'm not sure if it's a new form of racism or if they're just two edgy middle aged blokes
@@nailinthefashion I think Gunn is more competent in every regard but I hate everything about what both of them make 😅
@@ellaisplotting wow, thank you! I now know exactly how to describe how I feel about them hahaha. That's perfect. It's like generic and edgy done well, which is just not my vibe
Sweet. Another installment of 'H8', this section is the best reoccurring segment. Hilarious!
Woke up this morning and made Brioche French Toast and scrambled eggs while finishing up the Wonka episode. Then sat down for REBEL MOON.
It wasn't terrible. Just terribly cliché. It felt (and looked like) an entire season of a television show, of edited down to a feature film; A patchwork of A LOT of other (better) movies, and even games.
I didn't hate it as expected, but that ain't praise.
It's Dumb.
🎄 Merry Christmas Everyone! 🎄
It's just the sheer laziness that's really insulting. Like, Lucas famously wanted to make a Flash Gordon movie but couldn't get the rights, so he did his own thing. His thing had lots of influences from elsewhere, but when you watch it, it all hangs together cohesively and you're not taken out of the setting as you recognise all of the influences.
It's okay that you didn't hate it because I did so you get to lay back and enjoy my rage. What a stupid little film. Truly a disgrace to scifi. Should have called it Rebel Buffoon cuz if we wanted yet another shallow Nazi villain we'd watch Star Wars. I mean, they weren't even racist. At least be evil, but they're just like, farm harder! Oh wow, how intimidating. And then of course the leader just gets bopped unceremoniously. Shove off mate. Those men were bodybuilders they aren't gonna just stand there and believe if they work harder it'll be fine. Show us REBELS. Ones who lash out immediately and don't take the Empire's shit. Show them being wiped out. That's terror. That's triumph.
The Foundation does this but better. Go enjoy it, it's a great slow burn
I loved rebel moon. All my favour movies scenes rolled into one.
The Avatar moment also wholesale rips off Harry Potter riding Buckbeak in The Prisoner of Azkaban, right down to the griffin thing attacking the next person who tries to ride him, of course much more fatal than what happens to Malfoy.
Griffin scenes were straight out of Harry Potter (Prisoner of Azkaban), moreso than Avatar
Maso's question about Snyder staging action appears to have been answered/confirmed with the sequel to this film. Because that would require more creativity than Snyder has.
I HATE... how much I love this podcast.
Hate mail but the hate has an 8 in it is my favorite segment. James and Mason just slightly bring up there politics and people lose their minds 😂
We need more claire does a review Based just on the film title
Hope these two brothers have one heck of a holiday with their family (they have the same mother). Must be nice.
Rebel Moon definitely had some dialogue.
Typical soyboy zack Snyder Hater. Rebel moon didn't just have dialogue. It had dialogue that was written
I take it back. You guys don't suck and I will give you a reason.
Cause you make amazing content. Australia is much loved by Canada. Though I have heard deers & koalas ARE sworn enemies.
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When I'm mad in traffic, now I go, "SOMETHIN' RUUUUUDE", a la the Andrew Dice Clay impression from whenever ago that was. And no one knows I do that, and now you guys won't either. Because you famously don't read these, unless they have hate with an 8 in them.
James and Maso finally helped someone a trivia and it had nothing to do with their many trivia segments.
I think when you reach a certain level of power and influence you have to switch to a disarming nickname like Bob to quell suspicions
Ah, but you're forgetting all the different kind of abdominal muscles we get to see.
Merry Christmas to all !
5:24 I'd also bet money that when the JM thing happened and really picked up steam they were like "okay so if he's innocent we do X, if he's guilty we do Y" I doubt they waited until a verdict to think about what they would do if he was guilty.
Lost Vikings is great. Maso is my long lost twin
The H8 mail scared me. People be scary don't they be?
I got more riding Buckbeak from Harry Potter than Avatar with the griffin scene
Merry Christmas fellas, here's to many more hooonovers 🎄
Merry Christmas boys! And little James.
Merry Christmas!
Lol… I span the wheel and said ‘c’mon algorithm gimme something good’ and your boys latest shtick came up.
Top dollar!!
ah a fellow traveller! i did the same
H8 mail but the hate has an 8 in it is back!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 it’s a Christmas miracle
As a huge Zach Snyder fan ive gotta say...
I haven't really enjoyed any of his movies since Man of Steel.
I know folks hate that movie but i really love it.
Everything since BvS has been a huge let down.
I will say that i dont think having his child commit suicide is helping him.
I dont understand why he went back to work so soon afterwards.
I think it would take me a few years to get back to the person i used to be,
if ever at all.
I'm genuinely interested about what you found appealing about Snyders earlier films before Man of Steel?
@@tappajavittu I really like Watchmen, I used to like 300...
But I also use to have a shirtless Jim Morrison poster in my room as a kid, if that means anything.
I could do without Sucker Punch or Owl Fight either..
Hm, I guess I just really liked Watchmen and MoS lol .
The other movies are pretty,
There are cool scenes.
I was severely disappointed after watching both cuts of BvS and I liked his version of Justice League alot better than the theater cut, but it still didn't live up to my expectations .
I'm definitely not a Snyder Hater,
But I'm not the type of fan that's gonna tell you I think a movie is good just because it's a Snyder film either.
@@CordellPotts You seem like one of the most reasonable Snyder fans I've ever met online, I salute you my dude. Thank you for actually answering me and not just giving me some "his movies are so deep you wouldn't understand them even if I tried to explain it to you" type of response that I've gotten from way too many crazy Snyder cultists. lol
Zunt had me rolling
Rebel moon review is all-time peek weekly plsnet
DEFENDERS! (thanks for this, fellas, you made my day)
Suprised to see a video on Christmas, but then I remembered that Christmas isn't until June in the southern hemisphere.
#1 PartyBoy Nick Mason back in da house.
10 out of 10 title
Now I know if I should watch it or not. Or will when I get to that part. I'm still in bed, most sleep I've had in weeks from quitting Marijuana 🙃 finally done with the sleep withdrawal!! It's the hardest part in quitting.
To the coffee machine, oh and happy holidays to you and yours reader.
And if anyone wants advice on quitting things I came up with plans that work
To the coffee machine batman!
I guarantee that this film will help you to deal with insomnia. I fell asleep five minutes in.
Rebel Moon's universe also has Dabo, which is a casino game in Star Trek, to add yet another film IP this is borrowing from.
Is Rebel Moon really just the 1/3rd of Seven Samurai where the team gets assembled?
Rebel Moon didn't rise to the level of derivative, just plagiaristic.
It's the James Somerton of Sci Fi Space operas
hbomberguy is about to do a 3 hour video on this movie it's so full of plagiarism
It's crazy how much of a ripoff it is of Star Wars it's wild.
I really got more warhammer 40k vives from it but to each their own
So Zack Snyder pulled a Force Awakens but without the license?
Rebel Moon: Who set this kid on fire... Rude!!
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays all!
James and Maso my favourite same segs couple
Really enjoy all your reviews. Spot on most of the time. But in rebel moon, you missed one thing. Those stingray grabbing people harness things. Exactly a rip off from Beetlejuice dining table scene. The chairs grab them. They look identical.
I knew they looked familiar!
Merry christmas and happy holidays, boys 💙 thank you for effectively summing up just how drab and shockingly lifeless that space movie feels... Well, I suppose I should call it by its actual title. "Watching People Being Recruited: The Movie."
You both remain effortlessly charming and witty as per usual.
H8 Mail makes me lose some faith in humanity.
Your new space opera is Saga and it has a giant spider lady who IS a bounty hunter. It would have to be R rated too if they were going to be true to the text. Have Snyder direct a Saga TV series. That would be awesome.
If Snyder goes anywhere near Saga...... please god no. Why TF would you want Snyder to direct Saga??? I want them ("Hollywood" that is) to stop adapting things that I love, because it's almost always a disaster.
Snyder directing anything is the opposite of awesome. His talentless ass really needs to stop
Totally agree. I was just saying ZS is fine at directing things not writing them. And if people need an adult space opera it already exists. If Saga only ever stays as a graphic novel that is perfect. We don't need live action versions of every IP. Make movies of totally new things we've never seen.
Sofia Boutella is also the lead in climax very powerful actor! This movie sounds like another the mummy tho
Merry christmas James and Maso and fabulous team
Just from the premise of Rebel Moon I already feel I've seen it twenty times before but better
You have. People keep remaking seven samurai because it's a really good movie.
However this movie took the bold choice of taking just the recruitment segment of that movie and stretching it out to be a full movie.
"Alien 3 is not that bad" I'm sure that comment won't haunt James
Hate mail! Best Christmas ever!
I think permanent damage has been done. I’ve been watching James and mason for so many years, someone at work asked if I’m from Australia because of my “accent” I’m from and live in the states.
Best X-Mans present ever?
Finding out that The Lost Vikings really existed, and isn't just a figment of my scrambled memory circuits. Or at least it's not just my own figment anyway.
That game is so fun! But I couldn't clear the very last level, so I never beat it
Honestly I don't think the next avengers movies will be delayed, either they have someone else play Kang, as a variant. Or they have Dr. Doom or the Beyonder(s) show up and wipe out all the Kang's. Then they're the new big bad, seems pretty easy tbh. It's not like they're halfway through filming ot something.
If you want to see the original crappy space opera based on Seven Samurai, try "Battle Beyond the Stars", a good one for Caravan of Garbage. I think you'll enjoy it (if you're high).
If you want to see the actual original crappy space opera version of Seven Samurai, watch Message From Space
We already knew everything we needed to know about Rebel Moon when Snyder announced he was going to make a “dark, adult Star Wars”. Not “I’ve got a great idea for a Sci-Fi series”, “I’m going to make Star Wars with tits”. The man hasn’t got an original thought in his head. He never has.
I wish this movie had tits. At least I could have exclaimed,
"IT'S STAR WARS! WITH TITS!"
I think "that other guy" might be how Ben from Canada occasionally jumps in for 10 seconds every hundred videos or so? (Personally I love when Ben jumps in.)
I watched the trailers for Rebel Moon just now and good god does the movie look so insufferable. All the characters are trying to be too cool for school while being in the silliest sets and scenes. I hope Hollywood starts giving these opportunities to some other directors.
36:12 the little follower robots are stolen from Blade Runner 2049