The age of cheap foldables is here!
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This week the cheapest foldable flip phone launched in Japan. It's the ZTE Libero and costs $420, or $265 for newcomers. Nvidia also announced crazy earnings and Microsoft and Intel teamed up to make chips together.
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Writing & Research: Tristan Rayner
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0:00 Intro
0:23 The Brief
3:29 The cheapest foldable
4:44 Nvidia is king
6:08 Intel x Microsoft chips - Наука та технологія
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Thats a pretty good discount!
Checked out Nebula like you asked. It's a waste of money to be honest. I'm on gbps internet yet it kept buffering randomly. Never again.
Why Nebula makes youtube RED again? (UA-cam originals?)
AI is gold, and NVIDIA out here selling shovels and pickaxes to everyone.
Sam and Microsoft are selling shovels and driving the hype. Google and Meta already mine and manufacture pickaxes and now they're expanding not to lose initiative. Nvidia is selling the ores to make the shovels and the pickaxes, so they profit just by being in their position.
TSMC, Tokyo Electron, etc are selling the steel forgers; to extend the analogy.
I read pixelaxes first lol
@@korakysSorta, Nvidia bought up TSMC manufacturing time for like a decade up front
I mean calling anything a "Gold Rush" now basically means the people selling things to the people going to the "Gold Rush" are the ones making the money.
It always has been that but it's never been more clear than with AI stuff.
That dance at intel conference has real early 2000s vibe lol
My first thought was Steve Ballmers performance :D
"It's All About The Pentiums"
I wonder will we see an explosion of foldables out in the wild now 🤔
No, foldables have as good of a future as crypto scams
To much AI
@@edupe6185 crypto scams have a pretty good future though I feel!
Not in america... at least until apple makes one 😂
i hope not as explosive as the note 7
With the amount of gold rush parodies, I can’t wait for the snake oil and shovels that were the actual business all along!
Damn.. Zenfone 10 was a dream phone. Its really hard to get a compact phone right, which is actually compact and not just "relatively compact". But if Asus abandons small formfactor then truly its a lost sector. Sadly Zenfone 9 and 10 were never released in india, so it really remained a dream and nothing more : (
Sony Xperia 5?
@@mcsenny4793absolutely truly lost
Baseline S23/S24 have the same square size (and actually 2mm thinner) as Zenfones.
doesn't matter what the size of new zenfone is, with two years of updates only it would not have been able to compete anyway with the new flagships.
Don't forget the side mounted fingerprint reader. That stuff is almost impossible to find in high end phones
That small and round display reminds me of TECNO Phantom V Flip!
It also reminds me of the long forgotten device named Runcible!
Techno Phantom Flip V is also "quite" affordable for a flip phone, it's around 500 USD in retail (Indonesian Market)
I think Groq’s concept is really cool, in the not so far future we might have dedicated hardware in our pc’s for generative AI just like we have GPUs now. They could be used to improve gaming immersion or just to have a privacy focused model tun locally on your system
That was a really smooth segue to the ad
That cheap foldable phone looks like a reskined Techno Phantom V Flip T which is already a cheap foldable that got released a while ago
I wonder if the explosion in AI-generated junk content will facilitate a return to mediums like traditional TV, where all the content is vetted.
I'd wager we'll instead adjust our expectations downward first, much like we did with mp3s for music and pixellation in early internet porn.
Traditional TV will likely use artificial intelligence too eventually
Yes, Modern Television famous for its innovative and engaging storytelling will definitely be way better than that 'icky' generated content
Hey, love your content! I would love it if in the future you could add your sources in the video description. It would make reading up on an interesting topic easier
The Groq chip is most interesting story for me here. Generally the future of chip design is heading towards lots of specialised areas in a single system on a chip and this is a great example of how useful that can be.
Testing it out it is sooo fast.
I love watching your updates!!
Regarding small phones it should be noted that the Galaxy S24 is only 1mm larger than the Zenfone 10.
Ai intel dance party was not something I was ready for.
Just like business going online after covid , i feel AI is a over kill only to regret 6 months later when industry find out its just a fancy calculater.
Hot take: AI is going to end up going like how NFT's and crypto did.
@@GHOSTSTARSCREAMhighly unlikely but i really hope so
@@IbbiAhmed Why is it unlikely?
Everyone was/is already tired of hearing AI crap like 3 months in last year. At this point, every other company (like Samsung, etc) are just late to the party that was at it's peak (in terms of conversational interest) a year ago this time.
@@IbbiAhmed Also, AI is very much like a trend. Just like how NFT's and Crypto were a trend in the past 3 years. And trends usually start dying off in the 2-3 years after it's adoption/release.
Lama is probably also way smaller compared to ChatGPT and their implementation does not have to worry about plugins und such. They should have used a 176 b BLOOM model or another model or a similar sized model
Mixtral is better and faster than llama.
The FLOW!!! Those sagues were smooth bro!!!
2:52 Amogus
Im using B stock framework. And yeah, its awesome. Just a solid laptop
Frame work was sold out at least as of yesterday. Luck who ever snagged one up.
I cant wait for the Foldable Quantum AI future!!
Wait did i forget any buzzwords?
My boi '5G' got forgotten
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Gonna grab me one and never stop fiddling with that fold.
My dreams of folding and unfolding might finally be achieved.
My weekly drinking game: take a shot every time Marton says talking of instead of speaking of
I think his German accent and grammar are dreamy. 🍺 ❤
Got a Razr 40 Ultra for 400$ used, extremely happy with it and when I saw the buy now price on the auction it was an insta buy for me. The cheapest I saw them go for is 600$-700$ otherwise.
It is crazy to me that tech tubers were so concerned about the sensitivity of the motors on hidden selfie cameras, a fantastic solution that would just get better if established, for sure better than notches or crappy underscreen cameras BUT are totally ok with plastic screens worst that what we had 10-15 years ago and exposed parts on foldable phones!!! 🤦♀
I still am salty about pop-up cameras going away. A friend of mine has the Huawei Y9 prime from 2019 and the pop-up camera still works fine 4 years later. We live in an area with a lot of dust and that hasn't caused it to break. I also know people who have phones with pop-up and sliding and rolling cameras and they've never had problems with them till this day.
@@asandax6 exactly! And we got just 2-3 types first-generation technology, imagine what we could have ! the sliding mechanism just needs to solve some basic problems, the folding glass will never happen it will always be some kind of plastic, and if it happens it will be much more expensive then the pop up... Also the frequency of taking selfies and just unlocking your phone isn't for most people not even close.
that bunnysuit dance at the Intel event might be a reference to those Pentium 2 ads 20+ years ago
For 420, I expect to roll up.
Folding screens for all!
400 is cheap?!
I think it might be in comparison the US$ 600+ that they usually cost
The new phone truly is "Affoldable"...
I'll show myself out...
Hi, how you found out about groq from what news media aggregator (verge, or) if you can share pls
man i really like your videos but can you also add source from where you got that news ?
good guy samsung. you are getting funnier and funnier. i like it.
A phone... From Japan! And it's a foldable!
Moto razr can we grabbed for $200 from MetroPCS. You do have to buy $40 plan though so 240. But you can cancel after a month and it'll unlock in 5 more.
It's not the one with the big front screen though but still $240 from a prepaid carrier is legitimately affordable.
I got the Razr Plus, that many people are calling the best vertical folding phone ever, and that normally retails for $700, per absolutely free. Of course my circumstances are different from most. I had Spectrum home internet and it was a temporary offer that they were making for those with Spectrum internet to switch and add Spectrum mobile and bring their old phone number to them. But it's legitimately my favorite phone ever and to get it for free is crazy
i will be holding onto my 13mini so as long as possible. this thing is getting battery replacements until hell freezes over
I’m waiting until foldables, specifically flip phones, get good enough that we can run custom ROMs , that’s when the fun begins
Also really want to see what nothing can do with that form factor
ugh, why didn't you put the zte in the thumb?
I've never had a zte phone that didn't insanely disappoint me even in most basic usage.
from ghost touching to screen flicker to weird ghosting to charging issues...
It's sad that circle to search is coming to last gen Sammy phones but not the pixels
The age of foldables is long gone. The Motorola RAZR, StarTac, Pebble, Samsung P400, Nokia N90, Sony Ericsson, etc. Now that was a fun age with everyone having a different phone and nobody cared about specs. Now it's all about the iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy Ultra.
I like how a 1yr old Samsung is considered old according to android standards
The noun is missing in the title
You look great m8. The trim is proper 👌
i've seen fold 4's for $1000 or less used, foldables are pretty affordable if you buy used
Damn, history does repeat itself, 18 years ago we had flip phones now we got the same thing but for smartphones
I feel like the lpus are the same kind of story as guy and the bitcoin craze a while ago where they realised gpus were good but then made chips to do one job well which skyrocketed the mining potential
"discoveries that I made"
Come on now... 😂
The dance video inaccuracies would make sense if that video would be generated and presented live. Which i don't think they would do for a conference. So, they knew about some parts looking weird. And maybe this is a subtle push to normalize AI visual glitches and LLM hallucinations? If it is normal or accepted in public eye, then you can start using it sooner and getting benefits. "Take a look at this ad of ours. Sure, it has some glitches, but this is AI, so it is ok. And we didn't have to pay for animators, actors or video editors, so it is good".
that Japanese phone looks the coolest
Foldables are the solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
This really was the right time to jump ship to Linux for me. Can't stand the recent AI craze.
Hopefully this won't lead to a stock market crash.
Hoping they last longer than my cheap kettle that broke folding water.
Blackview hero 10 foldable is launching soon 🎉
Thanks for the vid
The Bloch sphere.
All tech presentations should have random guys dancing
I don't care how cheap it gets a foldable will only be good when they manage to make a screen that won't scratch so easily
Why add a point of mechanical failure?
Cheap foldables have arrived!
add half as interesting in your nebula streaming service. People would love it
They have been there since the start as the channel is run by the same people as Wendover
Upgradable laptop... sounds great. I have an 11 year old Apple laptop that is still useful without any hardware upgrades. Did somebody just hit the snooze button? :-)
I will be amazed if Android 15 is an improvement. Ever since I switched from iOS to Android 11, every Android feature update (not other updates made by Calyx or security patches, those are fine) has made my phone worse in some way, and I can't think of a single benefit. If I could update my phone to Android 11 with Calyx and security patches (and making sure all my apps work), I would do it with no regrets.
Future channel - TheFridayCheckoutAI
The age of cheaper, and even possibly affordable, foldable. But not necessarily cheap. The majority of the world would consider $400 pricey.
All the great small phones will be gone by the time I can actually get out of college, start earning and be able to afford any of them :(
Does nebula have programming related videos
"The age of cheap foldables is here"
Translation : in probably 3-5 years.
With tech like Sora, junk content is just going to Sore😂
Nvidia’s biggest advantage is CUDA, so you would have to rework the software to work on other hardware. But when you run on big scale then it can quickly be cost effective to switch.
If ZLUDA works out for AMD they'll soon be in the AI game. I still don't know why AMD was sleeping on AI.
@@asandax6 AMD has there own "CUDA" but it isn't as well developed as CUDA is. But if ZLUDA could work really well like Proton does for Windows games running on Linux there could be potential there.
Otherwise AMD does have an alternative AI compute unit with a mixture of GPUs and CPUs for servers so they aren't entirely sleeping, they just haven't been on it for ages like Nvidia has (basically just started to care once chatGPT blew up along with Nvidia's stock prices lol).
My samsung flip 3 lasted 3 month's and screen started to crack and go black on the phone. Took it in. Sorry, warrantee voided due to a small scratch on the top left corner on the casing.
AI chips to power the Nebula.
Ram can last for decades
Oh noo all 4 small form factor phone enthusiasts are nervous?
who remembers DC++
Intel doesn't have enough foundry in USA to make ai chip due to lack of engineers
I still don't see why they're pushing foldable, I could probably use it since I'm pretty carefully but foldable wouldn't last a single month in the hands of the people I know.
There's already a 550$ flip phone in India and if I have to buy this i gotta spend the same money ..
Who needs foldable phones?
I only got a 5.5 inch LG G4 in 2022.before that I got stuck with a 5.1 S6 edge for 4.1/2 years (I also had a Note 4 in 2018 but it got stolen). then I got a 5'3 G5 late 2022,then a 5.7 G6 early 2023. It died just 2 months later. I returned to sub 5 inches with huawei P8 and xiaomi mi 5. 6 months later bought a huawei P9, got disappointed. Dec 2023 Immediately bought an Xperia XZ3 which is 6 inches and is now my daily driver. It's also my biggest screen 📱 so far. I would love to remain at 6 above but they're too bulky in the jeans 👖 pocket. So I welcome this cheap foldables
400-500$ is not something i would call "affordable"
But who wants easily breaking foldable phones?
The soft screen gets worn in such a short period od time on all devices
Intel gonna start manufacturing chips for microsoft? Hasn't windows been running on intel since 1986 with windows 1.0?
I find it so weird when people that don't like small phones like to almost root against the people that do. "Nobody cares about small phones...." Obviously it's a niche market but niche markets are still important. Dex and a telephoto camera are a niche use cases and I don't think anyone who wants us to ditch those.
3:42 Damn.....! Is that for real? This is some exciting news! 😎💯👍🏿 6:57 This AI evolution is clearly having everyone really excited. 8:25 I totally agree we don't need all that junk content taking over the internet which is wasteful and annoying.
We haven't even seen the tip of the tip of the iceberg of the AI junkstuffing yet. There will be so much of it the AI's will be crappier and crappier by training on it or not being able to find human-made stuff to train on. It'll be digital grey goo.
"Mandarin verwendet Chinesische Schriftzeichen"
Cheapness overload.
Or expensive breakables. A matter of point of view.
I have friends who had foldables and have switched back to normal phones. There's little value in foldables for most people.
Coming over from Nebula to ask if you think that foldables will every get higher quality cameras? I really love the foldables, but the cameras are what holds me back
If they ditch the front camera in favor of an omega good back camera, then having the ability to use the screen on the back will make them the getto best smartphone in the market. I think it'll eventually happen but it'll take at least 5 more years, given how slow the progress has been in this segment.
Wonder if grow wins
About that Intel Foundry rap dance -- what's with all these recent ripoffs of '80s Devo, Buggles, Kraftwerk, Laurie Anderson, and Styx?
Before Microsoft, the "Barbie" movie did it. I liked Devo back in the day, but now I think these soulless imitations are just creepy.
"cheap" "$450" yeahh okay.
meanwhile, cat s22 flip is selling for $50. a price that is actually cheap and the phone spec is incredible for that price point
I have OnePlus Open it's not cheap but better than Samsung
03:31
0:40 that's nothing new.
It has been done in the cold war. And - according to Snowden - the NSA does it again...