انها اغنية قديمة عمرها اكثر من 3000 عام تعود الى اوغاريت الموجودة في سوريا ...انها حكاية امرأة شابة لا تنجب فتقدم زيت سمسم الى الالهة نيكال . Hymn to Nikkal...(1400BCE)..❤❤❤
@@japanfanatic1415 Agreed but what we perceive appropriate for religious singing is not necessarily the same for them too. Taking under consideration that Hathor's hymns often speak of people swinging their bodies and dancing around (to be precise there is a hymn which depicts the Pharaoh as the dancer and the hymn goes like "Look at how he dances, look at how he skips!") perhaps we shouldn't necessarily speak of religious pieces in antiquity the same way we perceive religious pieces today. It also depends on the culture and the god whose cult is being sung by hymns. For example we can say that gods and demonic forms like Hathor and Bes might be worshipped in skippy music but gods like Ra, Nut or Aten be celebrated in more "serious" music. We must also consider what kind of hymn or prayer that is. For instance here the prayer to Nikkal is supposed to be of a woman praying to the moon goddess to be blessed with a child so yes we might say this song would be sung in a more soft and pleading manner than for example a hathoric hymn for the celebration of drunkness but we cannot be 100% sure of that And of course we cannot deny that probably we can safely speak of regulated music in official levels such as court music or religious. I am just not sure how safe we are to speak of what these regulations were in actuallity
Yes, it's a traditional Middle Eastern melody. Modern Hebrew and Arabic music isn't actually all that different, shows how far back those melodies date.
It’s almost as if I can remember hearing this before, even though I know I haven’t. It reaches back into my spirit, soul, and mind; I hope our ancestors are happy knowing some of their melodies have survived so long.
It's truly baffling how a song this old sounds so much like many songs of the Middle East today, this could easily pass as traditional Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew music for an average person.
No it isn't baffling when you realise how this has been reconstructed. The text only contained bare bones instructions about which strings were plucked in an ancient instrument. not any more instructions about the scale, notes, melody, beats etc. So this is a modern reconstruction that uses all the modern day influences of the region. A musician from a different part of the world may likely reconstruct this into a very different sounding song.
@@mgbsecteacher Since no-one else has offered an explanation: in modern western music the smallest interval is a semitone (e.g. the difference in pitch between adjacent keys, white or black, on the piano). A quarter tone is a pitch variation half that size and a microtone even smaller - obviously not possible on a piano but can be done with the human voice or certain instruments like the violin or the trombone.
@@mgbsecteacher there are no micro or quarter tones in this recording. But quarter and microtones are sounds smaller than a semitone (halfstep). For example the sounds in between C and C sharp, a violin or cello, and some woodwind and brass instruments, including guitar can produce microtones. A piano cannot as its pitch is fixed. A viola can 'slide' between C and C sharp.
Like others, there seems something primal, and fundamental about this, its the music of the stones and the trees and the earth who remembers the voices of old, no matter how much time passes, the stones never forget.
Actually, Dumbrill's version was in a minor Dorian scale, while this one is in a minor Harmonic scale, which changes completely the mood of the tune. Anyways this rendition is amazing.
@@saintrexhardt8950 Well there are many versions of Hurrian Hymn depending on who makes the interpretations. This version is probably one of the most possible and most consistent but people are still allowed to doubt it can't they? ;) There are various interpretations on the song. Dumbrill chose a more "lementation" or "pleading" tone for the song, to show that the mother is pleading goddess Nikkal for a child. Someone might interpret the song differently and say, for instance, that the song is a happy one, of a woman who is freshly married or something and wishes to celebrate to the goddess and offer her gifts so that she will be even happier if blessed with a child. Then the piece should be in major and have a more allegro mood to it. Of course this mood chosen in here must have something to do with the translation made by Kirspijn who speaks of "sins" and "reconsiliation" so this version interprets it as a plead and not as a happy song etc. Interpretation is a funny thing. How many things might change from this tune by changing one small scale or one small interpretation. Also Dumbrill mentions the smaller intervals instead of harmonies because he (as well as many others) theorise that harmonies cannot possibly exist in polyphonic style in 1400 BCE. This person might be having different opinion on this matter. There are many different interpretations of this song. I am still very fond of this one to be honest! ^_^
@@emilywong4601 Yes there are many versions of sheet music around. I believe Dumbrill's version has become the most frequent and one of the generally accepted one so you can easily find them if you google "Hurrian Hymn No.6 - Dumbrill interpretation" or something
What are you talking about. It's litteraly called Hurrian Hymn, as in, the people referred to as Hurrians. The lived more than 2000 years earlier than any phonecian was even as much as an idea.?
Beautiful. It is as if I heard this song before. Its like reaching into my past or something... Feels really strange... Really strange... But I love it... ❤️👍
+Richard Dumbrill ciao Richard thanks for this reply i am going to check this other video. i got to search this song from a course on future learn.org i am following in the last weeks given by uni liverpool. i am close to Nature and just this summer i was recording when i could the sounds of nature (heavy rain, the cricket, thunders, soft rain fall...). the video here we are commenting made me think about that. i posted those sounds online on soundcloud and on my blog asking questions... cars passing by, and other civilization outcomes are seriously taking away the real sound of nature. all this I say, without now prolonging further my comment, thinking that your choice and reproposal of this deciphered (what a nice word decipher is!) song with thunders in beginning and end of the song are really fruit of a good choice. music is connection to 'gods' (the unknown) and making sound is fruit of nature. nature is the original producer of nature. we are nature too but in a different way we produce sound. in space there is no sound we can hear. humans of past civilitations in front of rivers flooding, huge volcanoes erupting and making 40 meters waves ... (Santorini), in front of thunders and observing Bolids in the sky or red moons ... they surely developed science (egyptians and Asia and Islamic later were strong in Astronomy for example or other sciences - look at the piramids) but in the same time they of course had much more respect of nature of its sounds fearing its manifestations ... all this I say without studing anything just mixing all the things i know from different disciplines and observing... i'd like to know more by studing some text or hearing videos or conferences where theories opinions are exposed ao i can get inspired in further personal reflections deeper and deeper. i d like to know your thoughts! will check the video you have linked...now. best regards from italy marco
Well optian decoration is always interesting to study in singing as well but I definitely see what you mean. Agreed that this version is hauntingly beautiful and does echo like antiquity to our ears!
I feel something similar. Normally i listen to hiphop and all kinds of music, not much 'classical' music at all. It sounds so powerfull, so natural, so human. so real. Strange, but very cool.
It pains me knowing these beautiful ancient hymns from the lands known today as Syria and Iraq... Two countries that never could enjoy long lasting peace even in modern times
Sorry but nothing on the popularity of throat singing on the tablets. Anyway in hot places open mouth singing, in cold places close mouth / throat (and the like) singing. And the same goes for speaking sounds.
@@voltydequa845 i can't tell exactly what you're trying to say tbh, but throat singing was extremely popular at this time in history. Just because it doesn't say it on clay tablets doesn't mean it wasn't lol
@@_daldoly_ I wonder where from the idea that throat singing was popular. Women too? Source? Ancient Philharmonic of Deep Throat Voice Throttlingers? :)
@@_daldoly_ I am not sure if we have any actual evidence on Bronze Age singing tecniques to be honest. We do know of course that tecniques like throat singing are traditionally beloved to this area so we could make an educated guess that the roots could be reaching the Bronze Age but it is really hard to say how they did sing which songs at 1400 BCE when this song is written. We can hardly understand rhythm at these times. We have vague mentions and explanations but we do not have much of clear evidence in ancient kingdoms so long ago what kind of rhythms they were using and how they were singing. Unless of course you are aware of some new source. If yes please do let me know ^_^
It sounds soo good, but it's so hard to know if the original sounded anything like that or not. I really like it, but i like it by my standards, which are modern standards.
Hurrian Hymn did provide the notation so we can re-create the music up to one point but yes in the end of the day we can never be 100% sure that this is how this hymn sounded like. This is why we have so many different versions and interpretations of this song. There are many things we do not know for sure; tuning system for each song (did they have the same tuning system for all songs? Did they change their tuning for religious songs?), what were the rhythms followed for certain songs like this hymn? What type of singing tecniques did they have? The numbers in the tablet interpret times the note is supposed to be sung? The time the song is supposed to last? The amount of notes someone should make a glissando to? Many questions cannot be 100% answered with the evidence we have but maybe this is what makes these versions so beautiful that they can be constructed, deconstructed and reconstructed and even then we can feel something of our ancient past in them,
@@fredgarv79 I'm a bit confused at your question, isn't "why it wouldn't have sounded like this" implied in "this sounds so good, but by today's standards" ?
@@ekiridreams yes you are correct, I guess what I mean is to ignore "modern standards" and just listen to it and imagine, that this is exactly what it would have sounded like if you were back in ancient times. I have something for you, I don't know if you will like it or not, but to me it is something quite amazing. it was sent to me by a friend in Italyua-cam.com/video/alqyyRx9pVQ/v-deo.html let me know if you like it. here is the shorter clip that she sent me,one of the best parts ua-cam.com/video/WZOXUCM-MCU/v-deo.html it is a modern interpretation of the great Vilvaldi
What kind of scale does this song use? Can one determine the degrees from the finger positions on the lyre indicated in the tablet if the tablet does not indicate tuning?
Probably could even have been ancient Scandinavian except for some odd harmonies. And the fact it seems to have been written in the honour of a fertility goddess, in an age practically every human culture had a fertility god/goddess, makes it even better. It belongs to the whole mankind an I salute the composer and the goddess it was created for.
The notes resemble nothing scandinavian, the harmonics literally sound like some middle eastern/Indian music and they can be found everywhere in their contemporary music.
Whatever space aliens deposited us here sure left us with a lot of unanswered questions, so… thanks for shedding some light on something so ancient! Hauntingly beautiful, I hope you came close to nailing it. I look forward to reading up on your method! Thank you again. ✌️❤️🎶
Very wrong. Kurds are related to the Persians. The Hurrians were their own people who lived in Northern Syria, a bit away from the areas where the Kurds will live in a few thousand years later.
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics. static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics. static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics. static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
I do not think that this language of Chechens is an ancient civilization called (Babylon) and it was in Iraq and Syria and there was no Shiites called Chechnya or Ingushs
There were 29 tablets found in Ugait Syria that were from around 1400BC where the Hurrians lived at that time. This was at the end of the Hurrian civilisation. The tablets had the oldest music and oldest lyrics ever discovered written on them. They were hymns to the Hurrian Moon Goddess, Nikkal. They all had bits missing and we don't know all the Hurrian writing and Hurrian language yet, we only know some of it. Only one of the tablets could be made into a proper song and with music. The tablet is Hurrian tablet number 6, H6. These tablets were discovered in the early 1950s. It took a long time for the music to be deciyphered and even longer for the lyrics because the lyrics was more destroyed the music. The music would of been played on the instrument commonly used at the time, a lyre. There are many videos on UA-cam of the music and the lyrics of this song being played and sung. Some have longer notes than others, or are faster, because there was no specified timing, there was just notes I think. So you could make various styles of music out of this. Some of the Hurrian language we know, while some bits we don't so the song would not make that much sense in English since there would be gaps in sentences. There were songs and music before this, but they were not recorded and are lost. There is one Assyrian tablet with a hymn with music and lyrics from the same time, but these tablets are probably older since the Assyrians succeeded the Hurrians and might of got record/written down music from the Hurrians. The Hurrian hymn H6 is more popular than the Assyrian tablet, because there more versions of H6 and the lyrics for H6 have been deciyphered more than the old Assyrian tablet. These hymns are not quite completely intact and bits are missing, but they still sound nice. The oldest intact completed song is the Ancient Greek the Seikilos Epitaph. Music and Songs were around before 1400BC, but it was never recorded and is lost.
One of the only English translated bits of this is: "Your love is in my heart" Also it is known as a worship hymn to Nikkal because it mentions Nikkal I think or something related to Nikkal.
انها اغنية قديمة عمرها اكثر من 3000 عام تعود الى اوغاريت الموجودة في سوريا ...انها حكاية امرأة شابة لا تنجب فتقدم زيت سمسم الى الالهة نيكال .
Hymn to Nikkal...(1400BCE)..❤❤❤
I'm playing all known songs by release date at my party tonight. Starting with this one, I hope the guests enjoy!
Is the party still going on?
Invite me, things must be crazy
legend has it his Ipod is still playing to this day...
Holy shit it's like none of the other versions make any sense once you've heard this one.
+sinekonata The music notation matches of the guy's intrepertation.
I mean it is religious so this is most likely the REAL deciphering!
@@japanfanatic1415 Agreed but what we perceive appropriate for religious singing is not necessarily the same for them too. Taking under consideration that Hathor's hymns often speak of people swinging their bodies and dancing around (to be precise there is a hymn which depicts the Pharaoh as the dancer and the hymn goes like "Look at how he dances, look at how he skips!") perhaps we shouldn't necessarily speak of religious pieces in antiquity the same way we perceive religious pieces today.
It also depends on the culture and the god whose cult is being sung by hymns. For example we can say that gods and demonic forms like Hathor and Bes might be worshipped in skippy music but gods like Ra, Nut or Aten be celebrated in more "serious" music.
We must also consider what kind of hymn or prayer that is. For instance here the prayer to Nikkal is supposed to be of a woman praying to the moon goddess to be blessed with a child so yes we might say this song would be sung in a more soft and pleading manner than for example a hathoric hymn for the celebration of drunkness but we cannot be 100% sure of that
And of course we cannot deny that probably we can safely speak of regulated music in official levels such as court music or religious. I am just not sure how safe we are to speak of what these regulations were in actuallity
True
@@katerinaaqu thank you for your insight!
her voice is so enchanting i feel like she’s transporting me spiritually back in time to some ancient mystery school.
Her voice is beautiful and the scale sounds very exotic but somehow familiar
Yes, it's human voice - like those of populations that have almost no instruments.
Maybe you listened to an Arabic or Hebrew song?
@@facelesssteel97 yes or reminds me of aleppo syriac music
Yes, it's a traditional Middle Eastern melody. Modern Hebrew and Arabic music isn't actually all that different, shows how far back those melodies date.
Male alto.
And to think this song is more than 3400 years old 😔 that's just magic
It’s almost as if I can remember hearing this before, even though I know I haven’t. It reaches back into my spirit, soul, and mind; I hope our ancestors are happy knowing some of their melodies have survived so long.
It's because a lot of this melody has carried itself into modern middle eastern music.
It's truly baffling how a song this old sounds so much like many songs of the Middle East today, this could easily pass as traditional Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew music for an average person.
It also has essences of what remains of hellenistic music thats been reconstructed.
i think it makes perfect sense. 1400 bc
Yes, it is fascinating indeed when you think how ancient the tunes of the modern-day Middle Eastern music are.
No it isn't baffling when you realise how this has been reconstructed.
The text only contained bare bones instructions about which strings were plucked in an ancient instrument. not any more instructions about the scale, notes, melody, beats etc.
So this is a modern reconstruction that uses all the modern day influences of the region.
A musician from a different part of the world may likely reconstruct this into a very different sounding song.
Yeah it seemed like an Armenian church song tbh
I live a few meters away from ugarit so proud to hear the eternal music of my ancestors
You did a great job ❤️❤️
it sounds like she also sings quarter or micro tones. that makes it sound very eastern mediterranian. her voice is like fairouz.
I agree, reminds me of fairouz
true thats what i thought at the first sight, but almost like her voice is a bit stronger.
Mega: Could you kindly very simply explain quarter or microtones for us?
@@mgbsecteacher Since no-one else has offered an explanation: in modern western music the smallest interval is a semitone (e.g. the difference in pitch between adjacent keys, white or black, on the piano). A quarter tone is a pitch variation half that size and a microtone even smaller - obviously not possible on a piano but can be done with the human voice or certain instruments like the violin or the trombone.
@@mgbsecteacher there are no micro or quarter tones in this recording. But quarter and microtones are sounds smaller than a semitone (halfstep). For example the sounds in between C and C sharp, a violin or cello, and some woodwind and brass instruments, including guitar can produce microtones. A piano cannot as its pitch is fixed. A viola can 'slide' between C and C sharp.
Remember when music was good?
Yeah....those were the days!
I was there, Gandalf... I was there 4000 years ago...
Like others, there seems something primal, and fundamental about this, its the music of the stones and the trees and the earth who remembers the voices of old, no matter how much time passes, the stones never forget.
Actually, Dumbrill's version was in a minor Dorian scale, while this one is in a minor Harmonic scale, which changes completely the mood of the tune. Anyways this rendition is amazing.
Can the sheet music be found online somewhere? I wonder if this song was popular in it's time. Maybe it's a prayer.
You do realize that this is Dumbrill's UA-cam channel, right?
@@saintrexhardt8950 Well there are many versions of Hurrian Hymn depending on who makes the interpretations. This version is probably one of the most possible and most consistent but people are still allowed to doubt it can't they? ;)
There are various interpretations on the song. Dumbrill chose a more "lementation" or "pleading" tone for the song, to show that the mother is pleading goddess Nikkal for a child. Someone might interpret the song differently and say, for instance, that the song is a happy one, of a woman who is freshly married or something and wishes to celebrate to the goddess and offer her gifts so that she will be even happier if blessed with a child. Then the piece should be in major and have a more allegro mood to it.
Of course this mood chosen in here must have something to do with the translation made by Kirspijn who speaks of "sins" and "reconsiliation" so this version interprets it as a plead and not as a happy song etc.
Interpretation is a funny thing. How many things might change from this tune by changing one small scale or one small interpretation.
Also Dumbrill mentions the smaller intervals instead of harmonies because he (as well as many others) theorise that harmonies cannot possibly exist in polyphonic style in 1400 BCE. This person might be having different opinion on this matter. There are many different interpretations of this song.
I am still very fond of this one to be honest! ^_^
@@emilywong4601 Yes there are many versions of sheet music around. I believe Dumbrill's version has become the most frequent and one of the generally accepted one so you can easily find them if you google "Hurrian Hymn No.6 - Dumbrill interpretation" or something
My favorite interpretation, by far!
Great version and performance. These kind of sounds could be heard in pre-Roman Iberian Peninsula (through the Phoenicians)! :)
Yes, I agree. And also pre-Roman Attican (Greek) singing
And in today's Serbian folk music
What are you talking about. It's litteraly called Hurrian Hymn, as in, the people referred to as Hurrians. The lived more than 2000 years earlier than any phonecian was even as much as an idea.?
this language existed at the same time as the phoenicians. Highly doubt that they had the same speech
No it's old syrian ashurian language So far, they're talking about it in the minority in North eastern Syria.
The video quality could have been better, but it is still acceptable given that it is from 1400 BC
Beautiful. It is as if I heard this song before. Its like reaching into my past or something... Feels really strange... Really strange... But I love it... ❤️👍
This song went hard when it dropped.
This is just magnificent. Love this version with her impeccable voice!
This tune gives me Goosebumps
So this is what my ancestors sounded like.
@menkrep1337 bot there are different opinions on music among the scholars. I recommend you take a look at the evidences used on both sides.
no
Your name is not Syrian, I dont understand the ancestors thing
@@alanzakka9527 He was joking.
@@alanzakka9527 Hurrians are not Syrian :)
It's like when you make Baklava with the strongest red chilly.....The sweet version sounds soothing to ear.
I love the voice, and of course the song.
But how was it deciphered.
really good voice thank you!
See: ua-cam.com/video/z-LdHG5wstA/v-deo.html
+Richard Dumbrill ciao Richard thanks for this reply i am going to check this other video. i got to search this song from a course on future learn.org i am following in the last weeks given by uni liverpool.
i am close to Nature and just this summer i was recording when i could the sounds of nature (heavy rain, the cricket, thunders, soft rain fall...). the video here we are commenting made me think about that. i posted those sounds online on soundcloud and on my blog asking questions...
cars passing by, and other civilization outcomes are seriously taking away the real sound of nature.
all this I say, without now prolonging further my comment, thinking that your choice and reproposal of this deciphered (what a nice word decipher is!) song with thunders in beginning and end of the song are really fruit of a good choice. music is connection to 'gods' (the unknown) and making sound is fruit of nature. nature is the original producer of nature. we are nature too but in a different way we produce sound.
in space there is no sound we can hear. humans of past civilitations in front of rivers flooding, huge volcanoes erupting and making 40 meters waves ... (Santorini), in front of thunders and observing Bolids in the sky or red moons ... they surely developed science (egyptians and Asia and Islamic later were strong in Astronomy for example or other sciences - look at the piramids) but in the same time they of course had much more respect of nature of its sounds fearing its manifestations ...
all this I say without studing anything just mixing all the things i know from different disciplines and observing...
i'd like to know more by studing some text or hearing videos or conferences where theories opinions are exposed ao i can get inspired in further personal reflections deeper and deeper.
i d like to know your thoughts!
will check the video you have linked...now.
best regards from italy
marco
@@DNH17 You could write a book.
@@NoCommentAtThisTime Will ask your help when needed.
great dechiper! i feel like traveled back thousands of year to a desert in a mediterranean civ!
For some odd reason I feel like crying
My heart wants to hear more .
I feel the same! The sounds are resonating with something deep within, it's enchanting
Although 8 years late ... unless it's 3428 years, Bravo and thank you for this awesome time machine.
Marvelous... It literally made me feel like I travelled 1500 years ago!!!
4,000 years
Puts me in a trance, i kind of instinctively close my eyes and let it wash over me
This version seems interpreted as it should be - centered on the human voice, around which all the rest is optional decoration.
Well optian decoration is always interesting to study in singing as well but I definitely see what you mean. Agreed that this version is hauntingly beautiful and does echo like antiquity to our ears!
The best in my opinion. I don't even know how the others make sense. This legit sounds like something that sprang up from that time.
Lullaby for the Ages...
wow as if it reaches down to the core of my genetic code! Something interesting about this tune.. God only knows ;)
I am so glad you feel this
Thank you very much. I appreciate your comment.
Agree
Awesome comment!
I feel something similar.
Normally i listen to hiphop and all kinds of music, not much 'classical' music at all.
It sounds so powerfull, so natural, so human. so real. Strange, but very cool.
It pains me knowing these beautiful ancient hymns from the lands known today as Syria and Iraq... Two countries that never could enjoy long lasting peace even in modern times
You can thank USA and islam for that
I am a Black woman living in the United States. This song touches me deep within the silent places of my tired soul. May everyone know peace.
i am a white man living in the uk. this song makes my balls tingle
I am a white man from canada. This tickles my pet moose.
@@-deleteduser8131what is wrong with you?
@@ਗੁਰਸਿਮਰਸਿੰਘsickening.
Isn't it adaptation of musical note found in the site of ancient Ougarit, near Lattakia ?
Beautiful
Truly an example that Music can Time Travel . . .
I can't get this melody out of my head!
I think this is the most beautiful thing I have ever heard. Is there an album including this song?
I wonder what'd it sound like if they did throat singing, which was very popular then when the tablets were made?
Sorry but nothing on the popularity of throat singing on the tablets. Anyway in hot places open mouth singing, in cold places close mouth / throat (and the like) singing. And the same goes for speaking sounds.
@@voltydequa845 i can't tell exactly what you're trying to say tbh, but throat singing was extremely popular at this time in history. Just because it doesn't say it on clay tablets doesn't mean it wasn't lol
@@_daldoly_ I wonder where from the idea that throat singing was popular. Women too? Source? Ancient Philharmonic of Deep Throat Voice Throttlingers? :)
@@_daldoly_ I am not sure if we have any actual evidence on Bronze Age singing tecniques to be honest. We do know of course that tecniques like throat singing are traditionally beloved to this area so we could make an educated guess that the roots could be reaching the Bronze Age but it is really hard to say how they did sing which songs at 1400 BCE when this song is written.
We can hardly understand rhythm at these times. We have vague mentions and explanations but we do not have much of clear evidence in ancient kingdoms so long ago what kind of rhythms they were using and how they were singing.
Unless of course you are aware of some new source. If yes please do let me know ^_^
It's creepy in a beautiful way
The guy who filmed this learned Hurrian and went into a time machine and went to a random lady and got her to pray to the god of fertility lmao
Wonderful, thank you.
Amazing
This is beautiful.
The best song on eurovision 😍
It sounds soo good, but it's so hard to know if the original sounded anything like that or not. I really like it, but i like it by my standards, which are modern standards.
Hurrian Hymn did provide the notation so we can re-create the music up to one point but yes in the end of the day we can never be 100% sure that this is how this hymn sounded like. This is why we have so many different versions and interpretations of this song.
There are many things we do not know for sure; tuning system for each song (did they have the same tuning system for all songs? Did they change their tuning for religious songs?), what were the rhythms followed for certain songs like this hymn? What type of singing tecniques did they have? The numbers in the tablet interpret times the note is supposed to be sung? The time the song is supposed to last? The amount of notes someone should make a glissando to?
Many questions cannot be 100% answered with the evidence we have but maybe this is what makes these versions so beautiful that they can be constructed, deconstructed and reconstructed and even then we can feel something of our ancient past in them,
I have a question, instead of asking why would it sound like this, why not ask, why would it have not sounded like this?
@@fredgarv79 I'm a bit confused at your question, isn't "why it wouldn't have sounded like this" implied in "this sounds so good, but by today's standards" ?
@@ekiridreams yes you are correct, I guess what I mean is to ignore "modern standards" and just listen to it and imagine, that this is exactly what it would have sounded like if you were back in ancient times. I have something for you, I don't know if you will like it or not, but to me it is something quite amazing. it was sent to me by a friend in Italyua-cam.com/video/alqyyRx9pVQ/v-deo.html
let me know if you like it. here is the shorter clip that she sent me,one of the best parts ua-cam.com/video/WZOXUCM-MCU/v-deo.html it is a modern interpretation of the great Vilvaldi
Got a version without the thunder background sound ?
Also thanks, this is purely amazing.
Do you have notes partitura of this version for piano please?
It's beautiful 😮
This is very similar to tradtional Armenian music, which is the only known language to be related to Hurrians and lived in the area at the time
@@LetMeGetAUhhh Armenian language carries hurro-urartian in it. They are one people of the highlands.
Okay but it’s Syrian and it was found in Syria, Armenians just happen to be descendant of a people who are distantly related to the Hurrians.
@@knowhoodyt OK and where do you think Armenians originated during the end of the bronze age collapse genius?
I’m terrified 💀
Where would I be able to find Richard Dumbrill’s transcribed interpretation (the sheet music with words and literal/poetic translation)?
تحياتي وتقديري لك سيدي وأستاذي احبك
I learned this song today at school in music class
OMG ME TO
lyrics? transcription?
What is she singing about/lyrics?
She's singing to the goddess of the crops for a good harvest.
I remember when that album came out
Amazing Lara
Hello, do you mind if i interpolate this melody for a project of my own ❤️
What kind of scale does this song use? Can one determine the degrees from the finger positions on the lyre indicated in the tablet if the tablet does not indicate tuning?
I hope some give us the meaning of what she is singing
Probably could even have been ancient Scandinavian except for some odd harmonies. And the fact it seems to have been written in the honour of a fertility goddess, in an age practically every human culture had a fertility god/goddess, makes it even better.
It belongs to the whole mankind an I salute the composer and the goddess it was created for.
The notes resemble nothing scandinavian, the harmonics literally sound like some middle eastern/Indian music and they can be found everywhere in their contemporary music.
Scandinavians were still hunter gatherers, hhhhhh
@@brandonwiles-n8t doesn’t sound Indian at all.
someone write lyrics )))
like a lullaby
Beautiful!!!
And they didn’t tag or name the vocalist?
I think we now know where pop culture's concept of ancient Egyptian music came from.
What a beautiful voice, who is singing?
Typical middleastren tune, melancholic!
- I prefer the earlier stuff.
- Dude there is literally no earlier stuff.
Beautiful stuff
Whatever space aliens deposited us here sure left us with a lot of unanswered questions, so… thanks for shedding some light on something so ancient! Hauntingly beautiful, I hope you came close to nailing it. I look forward to reading up on your method! Thank you again. ✌️❤️🎶
...brilliant.
Is it original lyrics? It’s beautiful
It felt like an Armenian church song, way too similar 😍
Where can I find this on an 8hr loop.. this is so peaceful
Download it and keep it on repeat that's it! Btw if you don't know how to download just search for ytmp3 website.
@@hakimdiwan5101 right click on video and loop
@@ndescruzur4378 There is no such feature on app
Sound exactly like Lebanese and Syrian Christian hymns
Armenian also
hello i greet you all i heard briefly that the kurds were the hurrians back then, is that correct?
Very wrong. Kurds are related to the Persians. The Hurrians were their own people who lived in Northern Syria, a bit away from the areas where the Kurds will live in a few thousand years later.
Dr. Dumbrill, is this the version using maqam bayati, as mentioned in your book? Or is it a different scale?
Alguien me puede decir qué elementos musicales contiene está canción más antigua del mundo?
Love it! Is there a way to get an audio of this version?
why does Mr. Wheeler think this departs from the modes? It is clearly in another mode, no? Not apart from modality at all.
Whats the lyrics she's singing?
Would I be able find lyrics somewhere please? Thank you
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics.
static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf
If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
@@katerinaaqu Thank you very much, this is great. All the best
give me the lyrics
I'd like to have opinion of Idan Raichel
Athato Atl How interesting!
I'd suggest also the opinion of the Twerk International Union, then that of the pluritoneal rappers and of the union of retired trumpeters.
Would love to see the lyrics
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics.
static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf
If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
Are those the original lyrics?
They are transliterated from an ancient tablet written in Cuneiform
This reminds me of the Armenian hymns in churches…
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Thank you! I was wondering when the protracted rain effects would end!!
only ancient gods know:)
What is this langauge ?
Hurrian written in Babylonian cuneiform. Dumbrill called it "Hurrianized Babylonian" in his study in 2017
try to count!
no beat at all!
Would you happen to have the lyrics? This deserves covers! haha!
Well I have here a version from a different researcher that it does include the lyrics.
static1.squarespace.com/static/5838d073b3db2bd3af42461c/t/58c89f2720099eee6bb43155/1489542976559/Oldest+Song+Music+Sheet+_Redesigned.pdf
If you want the version of melody in this video I suppose you should simply use the lyrics of this sheet music and put them upon Dumbrill's version
the Hurrians are not Indo-European and not Semitic.Hurrian language closest to the Chechen and Ingush languages.DNA Chechens J2 - 56%,Ingushs J2-89%
I do not think that this language of Chechens is an ancient civilization called (Babylon) and it was in Iraq and Syria and there was no Shiites called Chechnya or Ingushs
Hurrians are kurdish
Raman Kawani Hurrians Are Ural Altai and Turkish kurds are indo arian
Hurrian language is not closest to chechen and ingush, nor is the DNA. Wikipedia is not a credible source.
@@ramankawani2177 ههههههه
Could you tell more about the origin of this? Any historical details will be appreciated.
There were 29 tablets found in Ugait Syria that were from around 1400BC where the Hurrians lived at that time. This was at the end of the Hurrian civilisation. The tablets had the oldest music and oldest lyrics ever discovered written on them. They were hymns to the Hurrian Moon Goddess, Nikkal.
They all had bits missing and we don't know all the Hurrian writing and Hurrian language yet, we only know some of it. Only one of the tablets could be made into a proper song and with music. The tablet is Hurrian tablet number 6, H6.
These tablets were discovered in the early 1950s. It took a long time for the music to be deciyphered and even longer for the lyrics because the lyrics was more destroyed the music. The music would of been played on the instrument commonly used at the time, a lyre.
There are many videos on UA-cam of the music and the lyrics of this song being played and sung. Some have longer notes than others, or are faster, because there was no specified timing, there was just notes I think. So you could make various styles of music out of this.
Some of the Hurrian language we know, while some bits we don't so the song would not make that much sense in English since there would be gaps in sentences. There were songs and music before this, but they were not recorded and are lost.
There is one Assyrian tablet with a hymn with music and lyrics from the same time, but these tablets are probably older since the Assyrians succeeded the Hurrians and might of got record/written down music from the Hurrians. The Hurrian hymn H6 is more popular than the Assyrian tablet, because there more versions of H6 and the lyrics for H6 have been deciyphered more than the old Assyrian tablet.
These hymns are not quite completely intact and bits are missing, but they still sound nice. The oldest intact completed song is the Ancient Greek the Seikilos Epitaph. Music and Songs were around before 1400BC, but it was never recorded and is lost.
One of the only English translated bits of this is:
"Your love is in my heart"
Also it is known as a worship hymn to Nikkal because it mentions Nikkal I think or something related to Nikkal.
Messenger of Hor-pen-abu This is very kind of you, but we have made translations of it about 20 years ago.
Could you tell me where to find them?
Thank you
Cristina Navazo-Eguia Newton It is all in my book: The archaeology of the Ancient Near East that you can find at Amazon
Assassin's creed to make a game in Sumeria or Mesopotamia
This is from Syria
Its call-and-response! Add another singer!