Ringo was a brilliant drummer. Listen to how be builds on the snare to tom fill at the end. Its magnificent. One of the best he ever did with the Beatles. Very tight.
Great observation. A lot of the power of his performance is lost on the technology of the day, and it's not entirely fair to compare that to more recent drummers. Playing dampened heads into a single overhead mic is not a recipe for a "modern" sound, but still you can tell he's slamming them; there's plenty of power there. Also check out his performances on the "Beatles at the BBC" collections and you'll find Ringo cutting loose on a few tracks.
Alan Sytner owned The Cavern, next it was owned by Ray McFall. Mona Best owned The Casbah Coffee Club. I disagree, Ringo is the better drummer. George Martin wasn't even going to let Pete play on the records.
Nimulak My error on the nightclubs. Ringo is a basic rock drummer. So is Simon Kirke and Charlie Watts. I have all three Anthologies and I think Pete Best was a better drummer . Especially on the Decca sessions. Example LOVE ME DO Pete Best tried 2 different beats on Take 1. Not too good. Yes drummer Alan White did take 2 and Ringo did Take 3 the one that put the Beatles on the world map. Ringo was the perfect replacement. He kept the beat and girls loved him. Still do. He has a personality that can't be matched.
Well, we can agree to disagree. I also have all 3 anthologies as well. Pete pretty much did the same beat and fill on just about everything I've listened to. Not putting him down, he's a fine drummer, but Ringo is powerful, especially if you listen to the "Live at the Star Club" stuff. Just my opinion.
On this day in 1964 {April 11th} the Beatles had fourteen records on the Billboard Hot Top 100 chart... #1. "Can't Buy Me Love" #2. "Twist and Shout" #4. "She Loves You" #7. "I Want To Hold Your Hand" #9. "Please Please Me" #14. "Do You Want To Know A Secret" #38. "I Saw Her Standing There" #48. "You Can't Do That" #50. "All My Loving" #52. "From Me to You" #61. "Thank You Girl" #74. "There's A Place" #78. "Roll Over Beethoven" #81. "Love Me Do." Plus at #39 was "We Love You, Beatles" by The Carefrees... And the Beatles were also at #1 and #2 on Billboard's Top LPs chart with "Meet the Beatles" and "Introducing the Beatles" respectfully...
It's stupid when someone says that ringo wasn't a good drummer. He has been the most influential pop-rock drummer of every times because he was (and will always be) the beatles drummer. He played on the greatest songs, he created a his own style and this is importance!. You can bet that the best drummers (Jeff Porcaro,Stewart Copeland etc etc) have loved Ringo's style, his originality and fantasy. The rest is only gossip. bye
Take 13 was brilliant what a great ending I love the cha cha motion of Harrison's & Lennon's guitars. And yes Ringo snare and Tom Tom fill at the end. It really created a spectacular ending to the song.
Seems to me the take that was ultimately used was the one where at the end of the song John repeats ow, ow twice and the chords go back and forth D-G and Ringo does that series of snare/tomtom licks ending with 2 8th notes on the snare (at 6:05-6:09).
Ringo is THE most influential, innovative, spectacular drummer in all rock history. Bonham is quoted as saying no Ringo, no rock. All the beats and grooves and fills you know in all rock come from Ringo. Elvis, Little Richard etc were doing rockabilly.There was no rock drumming. And he went from this to Sgt Pepper in 4 years. Just cause GM mixed him down, doesn't mean he wasn't beating the shit out of them. And invention..try to imagine anyone else playing Strawberry Fields.. Just fuckin unreal
Geoff Emerick mentions in his book that the released version apparently got accidentally sped-up at some point. Obvious when you listen to these original takes!
Yes, I heard it too...Ring got his energy up and really did some good fills for the ending. Paul does a less than "Paul-like" bass version in these cuts. You know, he hits the root and the fifth over and over like in country music, instead of walking and bouncing around to fill up the tune with cool sounds.......at least that's how I heard it, I think. One time John says, "Come On". I guess they were getting tired and John (RIP) wanted to encourage them on as he later did the whole world!!!
@AkiroXKE..I hate doing this, but your just so unaware. I don't know if you have any idea how records are made, but it could be Bonham or Moon playing and a producer can decrease the sound levels & balancing (producing) and make them sound like girls combing their hair...and Beatles producer George Martin did that all the time to Ringo, put towels on the drums to take out the natural resonance and volume of the drum, essentially recording 'dead' drums..DJ was recorded live with mikes, no muffle
@AkiroXKE..so put drums in live room, no muffling, overhead mikes record whole band & drums come back just HUGE, it's an unfair comparison. And no, Fontana was not a rock drummer, Elvis played rockabilly, rock w/swing, huge difference.But my Bad is there is a great legend American drummer who did invent rock in 57, look up Earl Palmer, unfuckinreal, 1st single Tutti Frutti Little Richard, endless list of hit songs, so Ringo probably got lots from him, he rocks like Animal..still love Ringo (-:
It's no crime to do additional takes. All musicians screw up in the studio and have to re-record parts. Ringo was rock solid overall. Don't think he can drum? Watch the Washington DC show.
Ringo was a brilliant drummer. Listen to how be builds on the snare to tom fill at the end. Its magnificent. One of the best he ever did with the Beatles. Very tight.
Great observation. A lot of the power of his performance is lost on the technology of the day, and it's not entirely fair to compare that to more recent drummers. Playing dampened heads into a single overhead mic is not a recipe for a "modern" sound, but still you can tell he's slamming them; there's plenty of power there. Also check out his performances on the "Beatles at the BBC" collections and you'll find Ringo cutting loose on a few tracks.
Pete Best was a better drummer. His mother owned The Cavern.
He got all the girls.
So, he had to go.
Alan Sytner owned The Cavern, next it was owned by Ray McFall. Mona Best owned The Casbah Coffee Club. I disagree, Ringo is the better drummer. George Martin wasn't even going to let Pete play on the records.
Nimulak My error on the nightclubs.
Ringo is a basic rock drummer. So is Simon Kirke and Charlie Watts.
I have all three Anthologies and I think Pete Best was a better drummer . Especially on the Decca sessions.
Example LOVE ME DO
Pete Best tried 2 different beats on Take 1. Not too good.
Yes drummer Alan White did take 2 and Ringo did Take 3 the one that put the Beatles on the world map. Ringo was the perfect replacement.
He kept the beat and girls loved him. Still do.
He has a personality that can't be matched.
Well, we can agree to disagree. I also have all 3 anthologies as well. Pete pretty much did the same beat and fill on just about everything I've listened to. Not putting him down, he's a fine drummer, but Ringo is powerful, especially if you listen to the "Live at the Star Club" stuff. Just my opinion.
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On this day in 1964 {April 11th} the Beatles had fourteen records on the Billboard Hot Top 100 chart...
#1. "Can't Buy Me Love"
#2. "Twist and Shout"
#4. "She Loves You"
#7. "I Want To Hold Your Hand"
#9. "Please Please Me"
#14. "Do You Want To Know A Secret"
#38. "I Saw Her Standing There"
#48. "You Can't Do That"
#50. "All My Loving"
#52. "From Me to You"
#61. "Thank You Girl"
#74. "There's A Place"
#78. "Roll Over Beethoven"
#81. "Love Me Do."
Plus at #39 was "We Love You, Beatles" by The Carefrees...
And the Beatles were also at #1 and #2 on Billboard's Top LPs chart with "Meet the Beatles" and "Introducing the Beatles" respectfully...
Estoy muy preocupado x mi vida y ahora justo escucho todos estos takes! Me hace ilusión la vida aun😢
It's stupid when someone says that ringo wasn't a good drummer.
He has been the most influential pop-rock drummer of every times because he was (and will always be) the beatles drummer. He played on the greatest songs, he created a his own style and this is importance!. You can bet that the best drummers (Jeff Porcaro,Stewart Copeland etc etc) have loved Ringo's style, his originality and fantasy. The rest is only gossip. bye
Take 13 was brilliant what a great ending I love the cha cha motion of Harrison's & Lennon's guitars. And yes Ringo snare and Tom Tom fill at the end. It really created a spectacular ending to the song.
Seems to me the take that was ultimately used was the one where at the end of the song John repeats ow, ow twice and the chords go back and forth D-G and Ringo does that series of snare/tomtom licks ending with 2 8th notes on the snare (at 6:05-6:09).
Reminds me of Wipeout...
Some hot Ringo washing machine action there! I would do a fill like that and end up in Cleveland instead of Baltimore!😂
Enjoyed :) added to my favorites thanks
Ringo is THE most influential, innovative, spectacular drummer in all rock history.
Bonham is quoted as saying no Ringo, no rock. All the beats and grooves and fills you know in all rock come from Ringo. Elvis, Little Richard etc were doing rockabilly.There was no rock drumming. And he went from this to Sgt Pepper in 4 years. Just cause GM mixed him down, doesn't mean he wasn't beating the shit out of them. And invention..try to imagine anyone else playing Strawberry Fields..
Just fuckin unreal
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Geoff Emerick mentions in his book that the released version apparently got accidentally sped-up at some point. Obvious when you listen to these original takes!
FUCK YEAH
the only beatle outtake I ever heard with ringo having a problem.he eventually got it.thats why bands rehearse.
Yes, I heard it too...Ring got his energy up and really did some good fills for the ending. Paul does a less than "Paul-like" bass version in these cuts. You know, he hits the root and the fifth over and over like in country music, instead of walking and bouncing around to fill up the tune with cool sounds.......at least that's how I heard it, I think. One time John says, "Come On". I guess they were getting tired and John (RIP) wanted to encourage them on as he later did the whole world!!!
@hazel10987 - poor guy was considered one of the top two drummers in the Uk at the time...
all I kno is that steady rhythm soul that he always had& clock like to boot....
Minuto 3:31
@AkiroXKE..I hate doing this, but your just so unaware. I don't know if you have any idea how records are made, but it could be Bonham or Moon playing and a producer can decrease the sound levels & balancing (producing) and make them sound like girls combing their hair...and Beatles producer George Martin did that all the time to Ringo, put towels on the drums to take out the natural resonance and volume of the drum, essentially recording 'dead' drums..DJ was recorded live with mikes, no muffle
John was the best BeaTle, tho they were all great.
@AkiroXKE..so put drums in live room, no muffling, overhead mikes record whole band & drums come back just HUGE, it's an unfair comparison. And no, Fontana was not a rock drummer, Elvis played rockabilly, rock w/swing, huge difference.But my Bad is there is a great legend American drummer who did invent rock in 57, look up Earl Palmer, unfuckinreal, 1st single Tutti Frutti Little Richard, endless list of hit songs, so Ringo probably got lots from him, he rocks like Animal..still love Ringo (-:
Is it " All I wanna do"....or " All I gotta do"? Seems John gets it mixed up..
both ways - theme and variations is done on purpose
It's no crime to do additional takes. All musicians screw up in the studio and have to re-record parts. Ringo was rock solid overall. Don't think he can drum? Watch the Washington DC show.
So Pete Best want just replaced out of jealousy ?
actual final BeaTle records were too perfect- rehearsals like these are in a way better
John channels Buddy
Which record came this song? Anybody's know that? Thanks.
The Beatles Second Album--Capitol Records February 1964
Parlophone originally released it as the B-side to "From Me To You" single in the UK 1963. It's now on Past Masters Volume One.
Not even one picture? Sheesh!
What makes this song for me is George plays the melody instead of chords.
Ringo can't do his fills. Poor guy. :(
come on now you guys kno they would never hav sounded that way with someone else