Wabi-sabi: When BAD PHOTOS are BETTER

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  • Wabi-sabi: When BAD PHOTOS are BETTER //
    If I had to pick one photographer to declare as my favourite all-time photographer, this would be a very difficult question, but there’s a large chance it would be Nan Goldin. And this is largely a personal thing, I’m not declaring her the world’s greatest photographer. It’s just that when I go to an exhibition of hers, I find it has a profound effect on me. I feel so much emotion, connection and understanding when looking at her work. And while this is just my personal experience, I’m not the only one who feels it.
    But why is this? What is it about her work that connects with me?
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  • @Caracalaba
    @Caracalaba 4 роки тому +4182

    That's why film hasn't died, it gives automatic imperfections

    • @cdgarcia
      @cdgarcia 4 роки тому +47

      Señor Calabaza as a new film photographer it’s hard sometimes to accept the imperfection of film but most of the time it’s a relief as a recovering digital pixel pepper to know that nothing is left after developing and scanning film

    • @iamisaid2295
      @iamisaid2295 4 роки тому +76

      film was NeVeR about being imperfect. this is a new idea.

    • @RodUSMC75
      @RodUSMC75 4 роки тому +31

      @@iamisaid2295 I agree there are those today that use film with the idea that it is "imperfect" compared to digital and that's why they use it. They could easily achieve "imperfect" results from a digital camera. One of the things I think folks with this idea about film misunderstand is that its the "photographic style" of certain photographers such as Bruce Gildan and Gary Winogrand. That Unsettling or raw look was achieved with the tools they had available to them at the time, not achieved because they used a certain set of tools to create that look.

    • @Youtube.Commen-tater
      @Youtube.Commen-tater 4 роки тому

      I Am , I Said Chelsea Girls

    • @--..__
      @--..__ 4 роки тому +21

      Digital has imperfections people just dotn know how to appreciate the aesthetic yet . Wait ten or twenty years.

  • @hanac5586
    @hanac5586 4 роки тому +2803

    I comfirm this. The bad photos of my cat are absolutely priceless. She looks like an alien.

    • @tromkalixon6933
      @tromkalixon6933 4 роки тому +17

      Lol, I love this comment.

    • @downtovenus
      @downtovenus 4 роки тому +7

      !!! Please show them?

    • @fv2977
      @fv2977 4 роки тому +11

      Definitely agree, and I'd recommend scrolling through r/blurrypicturesofcats.

    • @WolfiiDog13
      @WolfiiDog13 4 роки тому +3

      @@fv2977 thanks, I love it

    • @xanfus
      @xanfus 4 роки тому +2

      How can I see these photos?!?!?! LoL

  • @bewdeyeswhitedragon
    @bewdeyeswhitedragon 4 роки тому +1938

    Funny how my Japanese colleagues talk about this thing called wabi-sabi last night during drinking. Can confirm that UA-cam's been listening to our conversation then recommends it.

    • @laynestaley2563
      @laynestaley2563 4 роки тому +18

      I was rqlking about books and said something about to kill a mocking bird and a fewhoira latet it was on my youtube recomended.

    • @PragmaticOptimist
      @PragmaticOptimist 4 роки тому +27

      More like, they plant thoughts through the smartphones via icloud technology. It's like they cultivate your brain to consume particular videos.

    • @novidsnosubs9758
      @novidsnosubs9758 4 роки тому +15

      I remember pointing out to my friends how many Betty hoop items somebody had on their windowsill, and only about twenty minutes later when I arrived home I was recommended a Betty boop video on UA-cam..

    • @PragmaticOptimist
      @PragmaticOptimist 4 роки тому +16

      @@novidsnosubs9758 i mean i already knew that, google does actually listen to convos. But listening to. your. Damn. Thoughts? That is a whole different level of hell.

    • @marvel096
      @marvel096 4 роки тому +8

      It’s the baader meinhof effect

  • @M0tt0ri
    @M0tt0ri 4 роки тому +963

    As an art graduate, I really apreciate this, the world needs to know more about how complex the art can become when academic rules and subjetive vision are layered infinitly.

    • @Darqoni
      @Darqoni 4 роки тому +2

      academic rules for art 😂

    • @mangomariel
      @mangomariel 4 роки тому +10

      In art t's often an excuse for lack of technical talent tho. You have a point, but so do I. :P

    • @flocheka
      @flocheka 4 роки тому

      That's true, like the academie de belles arts in paris at the beginning of the 19 century. Bit this time in photography.

    • @flocheka
      @flocheka 4 роки тому

      Jørgen Fallet Mosand i don't think so, would you call van gogh's art as an excuse? Or would you call monet's or manet's art as bad technical talent ?

    • @hellogamiesai6135
      @hellogamiesai6135 3 роки тому

      @@flocheka yes you can. Why can't you? If they have produce technical skilled paintings but they chosen there favourite style, then OK....but have they?

  • @acharismaticfunnel4465
    @acharismaticfunnel4465 4 роки тому +1279

    It's so nice to hear someone talk about Nan Goldin. It's also very refreshing just to hear a UA-camr talk about the artists in the photography industry and not just about gear!

    • @gnashings
      @gnashings 4 роки тому +1

      now... if her name was just Nan Godox she'd be a huge star LOL

    • @The7dioses
      @The7dioses 4 роки тому +7

      Right, and if her name would be Fernandez or Garcia, her work would be considered shit.

    • @LorenzoPR
      @LorenzoPR 4 роки тому +7

      Yes, lot of “gear talk “and not much about inspiration.

    • @ish_vids
      @ish_vids 4 роки тому +4

      It's kinda strange, like. I love photography but I don't really care for other photographer's work, I don't find any inspiration or anything from it. I guess this comes from studying art and realizing that you literally could have zero technical skill and get a ton of money because "muh abstract"

    • @The7dioses
      @The7dioses 4 роки тому +2

      In 99% of circumstances, you can only make it, or be truly recognized as an artistic photog in the U.S. if you are white and preferably Jewish. Even if your work is mediocre at best, it would still be potentially glorified and pushed by the officially “chosen establishment” (if you meet the proper ethnic criteria), only. Otherwise, If you are hispanic, (even if you are white-Hispanic as they classify some of us, you are still Hispanic to them, hence not “truly white to them”) therefore your work is pretty much ignored and left to rot, no matter how creative, original or truly groundbreaking your work might potentially be. Fact. It makes me want to puke how segregational the art establishment really is.

  • @Chris5685
    @Chris5685 4 роки тому +505

    "Do you often break rules and conventions?"
    Not consciously, but sometimes stuff just feels better if it's "broken".

    • @polleepops2012
      @polleepops2012 4 роки тому +1

      :)

    • @Can_Driver
      @Can_Driver 4 роки тому +7

      My favourite image is an out of focus, blurred, cutoff by being the start of a roll of film (like exposed to sunlight cut off) picture of the ground (nice weeds with flowers and river gravel) as I was just loading a new roll and just getting ready to take "real phots". It haunts me, that this image was so opposite to what I was doing as a photographer (B&W architecture/historic(me), and colour motorsports (friends)) that I was confused as to why this appealed to me, it was abstract and random, chaotic as changing rolls of film could be, eeked out of the beginning of roll, already written off as unusable, a consumable, bound for the circular filing cabinet. And I still remember it. No one else saw it, it was a happenstance, fleeting, yet, finding it at the beginning of a banal roll of endless circling, virtually interchangeable motorcycles gave it an unusual power of recall and now 25 years or so later, a strange longing to still have it.

    • @ernestslenss6405
      @ernestslenss6405 4 роки тому +5

      I guess one of his points were - figure out why You do it and what it does. A great path to be a great photographer.

    • @bitsmore6265
      @bitsmore6265 4 роки тому +3

      i think most of the photos are sad.. sometimes some people do feel better when broken... I like a "wabi-sabi" that is a happy shot. like with vibrant colors and energy. yes i'll have some of the "wabi sabi" that is sad and dramatic yes, but more on the "wabi-sabi" that is happy... like i better share joyful imperfection than sad imperfection just to be in...

    • @kenzito101
      @kenzito101 4 роки тому

      Broken like our hearts...

  • @mnatyyangyang4390
    @mnatyyangyang4390 4 роки тому +240

    They kinda feel cursed, I love it

  • @gregwolf1
    @gregwolf1 4 роки тому +420

    this is why I love my polaroid camera more than any digital one I ever owned.

    • @korvusmangata9007
      @korvusmangata9007 4 роки тому +7

      Apparently you're not really supposed to shake the photos after they've printed??? Wot

    • @sophie.j1241
      @sophie.j1241 4 роки тому +32

      Korvus Mangata it’s true. By shaking it while developing, it moves the ink and creates a messier and blotchy photo x

    • @rickc2102
      @rickc2102 4 роки тому +34

      Can it be shaken so vigorously to allow for a pleasing distortion?

    • @franceskubiak9838
      @franceskubiak9838 4 роки тому +88

      @otakurocks hey bud, go take a bubble bath or something, you could use some joy in your life

    • @Emil-yd1ge
      @Emil-yd1ge 4 роки тому +15

      @@franceskubiak9838 “go take a bubble bath or something“ I laughed so hard :D

  • @giovannissimodifoto
    @giovannissimodifoto 4 роки тому +785

    "Photography is not reality"

    • @jefflindeman
      @jefflindeman 4 роки тому +46

      giovannissimo ~But in many ways it is A reality; it's just that it's an interpretation of reality; it's the photographer's reality; or maybe a reality shared or rather "offered". A kind of Twilight Zone between the mind of the artist and the eyes of the viewer.

    • @emmyd3171
      @emmyd3171 4 роки тому +12

      Jeff Lindeman you have a good point, but why use semi colons if you don’t know how?

    • @jefflindeman
      @jefflindeman 4 роки тому +10

      Emmy Dahle ~You may have a good point, but why allude to your supposed superiority, bereft of any helpful insight, and effectively kill further comment on the thread?

    • @perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738
      @perryoparsonneseatingjuicy8738 4 роки тому +8

      Jeff Lindeman she politely confronted you with the opportunity to learn. Maybe someday you would’ve placed a semicolon where it didn’t belong and the message you were aiming to convey in a piece of writing more formal and more important than a UA-cam comment would’ve been at the very least slightly tainted.
      If you see this as “alluding to supposed superiority” maybe it’s you who needs to check their ego. Always take criticism and feedback, whether hostile or friendly, as a learning opportunity. Don’t be so insecure.

    • @jefflindeman
      @jefflindeman 4 роки тому +2

      Perry O’Parsonnes eating juicyfruit gum ~Truthfully, I was not being "insecure" or in anyway denying that my usage may be incorrect; I was simply pointing out that the comment had a "tsk tsk" tone and was not useful, save illustrating her superior knowledge. My understanding is that a semicolon can be used as a way of bridging phrases that are related and should be viewed together to complete a thought - as I did in the first sentence of this reply. In retrospect I'll admit to overuse in my original reply, which I actually posted prematurely as my new Australian Cattle Dog pup began to pee on the carpet, LOL.
      At any rate, if my semicolon usage is wrong, I'd be more than interested in a clarification. I have no problem with being wrong; if I've learned anything in life, it's that you learn a great deal from your mistakes and very little when you're right. I've always liked the old adage, "'Tis always better to remain silent and appear the fool than to speak and remove all doubt." 😬 Cheers

  • @iandavis1355
    @iandavis1355 4 роки тому +236

    Unstaged photos lend incredible authenticity to the moment.

    • @Protestan88
      @Protestan88 4 роки тому +2

      Do they though? Isn't the world a stage?

    • @musliksolihin8960
      @musliksolihin8960 4 роки тому

      @@Protestan88 The world is one hell of a massive stage

  • @carriethevampire3368
    @carriethevampire3368 4 роки тому +223

    I've always taken photos like this and people have always told me: "why don't you blur out the background to put more focus on something specific" and "why didn't you put it completely in focus" but seeing photographers such as Nan(and etc.) have been an inspiration for me to not change my entire photography style.

    • @findon2467
      @findon2467 4 роки тому +5

      This is just me but I generally don't like blurring in photos that much, or at least I way prefer no blurring, it bothers me a little bit when I can't see everything in a photo so you do you 🌼

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah 3 роки тому +6

      @carrie thevampire, you can safely ignore all advice about how your photographs should look. At some point I realized it’s all subjective. There is no photo everyone thinks is “good”.

    • @Adrian-wd4rn
      @Adrian-wd4rn 3 роки тому +3

      Here's the problem...They already did it, they got famous for it before anyone else did. Once someone goes famous for something before others did it, whatever the others do, are doing it badly. I've taken plenty of photos out of my car window, I'm yet to be given an award for it.
      Do something with some breakthrough, and you'll be praised for it.

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah 3 роки тому +5

      @@Adrian-wd4rn I hear you, but if you’re doing photography to get awards and fame, you’re probably wasting your time. Those things are largely herd mentality anyway. Do it simply because you love it and can’t imagine not seeing the world through a chunk of glass.👍

    • @Adrian-wd4rn
      @Adrian-wd4rn 3 роки тому

      @@joeltunnah Oh trust me, I do it because I need a creative outlet. I study industrial design, and need a more pure form of creative outlet, artistically speaking. If I get fame and fortune at 29 years old from photography, then cool, chances of it happening are infinitesimal.
      I was stating my comment more as a "general" not exactly guided towards phtography.

  • @ClaireEliseLumiere
    @ClaireEliseLumiere 4 роки тому +426

    Finally my love for this specific form of art has a name. I've always had a predisposition for this for as long as I can remember, I remember (cringe) tumblr days when I was a teenager, only collecting pictures like this. Feels so good to know why I feel this way and that it's got a specific name I can look for now. Great explanation and collection of artists and pictures too, amazing video Jamie.

    • @leroyMXII
      @leroyMXII 4 роки тому +10

      Exactly my thought process and especially ''Tumblr-days'' thing, soooo relatable!

    • @vaisnow
      @vaisnow 4 роки тому +3

      (Not really cringe)
      I can relate

    • @starosta975
      @starosta975 4 роки тому +1

      Claire, omg

    • @dedclownsRfunny
      @dedclownsRfunny 3 роки тому

      Same. It feels wanky to say but it’s the truth; I’ve always felt much more drawn to the imperfect with character.

  • @RSpudieD
    @RSpudieD 4 роки тому +253

    This really spoke to me. I feel photography is too pressured by the "norms" of Instagram and media to be perfect...sometimes being imperfect but personal and yourself is better. This was so well done too.

    • @thewanderess
      @thewanderess 4 роки тому

      I wrote a similar comment and then I saw yours. I know what you mean. And totally resonate with you

    • @elenakk9125
      @elenakk9125 4 роки тому +2

      RSpudieD same with art too... especially on instagram, art is chock-full of saturated, realistic pieces of popular celebrities :/

  • @sarahbelian9715
    @sarahbelian9715 4 роки тому +269

    Realistic photography
    Shows how imperfect we truly are

  • @pauarandia3400
    @pauarandia3400 4 роки тому +153

    you can’t even begin to imagine how much this video has changed my way of thinking about photography. i can’t thank you enough for that.

  • @hellboyy7019
    @hellboyy7019 4 роки тому +79

    "But i take the beauty of chaos, over ugly perfection"
    -Pat, The Bunny.

    • @Frankenstein_420
      @Frankenstein_420 4 роки тому +2

      ЭЛЛИОТ I think I like my pretty, petty ugly
      -AJJ

  • @blarbblorb7917
    @blarbblorb7917 4 роки тому +694

    Jamie you’re the best “photography youtuber”, period. Keep this amazing content full of information and knowledge.

  • @RH-uf9il
    @RH-uf9il 4 роки тому +187

    "It's not always about what an image looks like, as much as how an image makes you feel". Totally agree. Great video mate!

    • @petersolomon5227
      @petersolomon5227 3 роки тому +2

      This subject cuts across all the arts, or at the very least it has a quiet presence in painting, music & independent film-making. The problem is, quiet, rough cut artworks are also a kind of fetish, to me popularised & by certain curators.

  • @nowaynomore
    @nowaynomore 4 роки тому +574

    Them: Wabi-Sabi
    Me: Spicy

    • @Miss-Hellcat666
      @Miss-Hellcat666 4 роки тому +7

      I find this way too funny 😅

    • @nowaynomore
      @nowaynomore 4 роки тому +4

      Miss Hellcat I’m glad you appreciate my stupid sense of humour 😂

    • @rohitamonkar1897
      @rohitamonkar1897 4 роки тому +3

      Completely unexpected and funny as hell 😂

    • @nowaynomore
      @nowaynomore 4 роки тому +2

      @@rohitamonkar1897 My humour has peaked far too soon, it's all down from here 😂😂

    • @maephillips7472
      @maephillips7472 4 роки тому +3

      omg when i read the title i thought it was wasabi until i saw ur comment haha!

  • @AnandaGarden
    @AnandaGarden 2 роки тому +12

    Profound. I'm 80, taking pictures for 56 years and many of my most fondly remembered were imperfect. Bicycles leaning like lovers against a tree. A runner on a gloomy day seen from behind suspended in the air, a young beach brat pulling a wagon with binder twine, taken with my Dad's 1939-ish Zeiss Ikon camera.

  • @amentet
    @amentet 4 роки тому +86

    "They felt more real".... the opposite is what I feel when I go through 500px. Perfect soul-less photos everywhere.
    Great video man!

    • @kalazakan
      @kalazakan 4 роки тому

      @Esteban Outeiral Dias Yeah

  • @pb7199
    @pb7199 4 роки тому +30

    When I started using a DSLR I would always hear "never use flash", grain and noise were the enemy anything less than crisp focus and 0 motion blur was horrible. but nowadays i find that i like the look of flash sometimes, i don't care about noise, and i sometimes purposefully shoot slower to capture motion blur. learning the "rules" of photography is important when you're starting out but boy, is it liberating when you break them

  • @TurtleGamers1
    @TurtleGamers1 4 роки тому +88

    This reminds me of imperfection in music a lot. Pavement, Sonic Youth, Nirvana, The White Stripes... They COULD have gotten a recording session in the best studios of the world and created a crispy clean record, but e.g. White Stripes opted to record in their living room instead even though they were world famous. Pavement played deliberately sloppy, as did Nirvana. And they created arguably better art than what might've been the result otherwise.
    Good video, I've hadn't really thought of photography as an art-form before, but those examples of blurry and imperfect pictures really make you think twice about that.
    It seems that in the end, the different types of artforms share the same philosophies.

    • @xoblitz9038
      @xoblitz9038 4 роки тому +5

      Punk bands. Some recorded in bathrooms and the emotion you get from those adds such an individuality it draws me back time and time again. Punk bands.

    • @user-uy5mf1ro9m
      @user-uy5mf1ro9m 4 роки тому +6

      Blitzy blender this is 100% true I agree with you on this. Kids still today go to local punk shows in LA with cameras capturing the most beautiful, chaotic, imperfect photos. A quote on the topic of punk music from one of my favorite movies 20th century women, “ Yeah, it's like they've got this feeling, and they don't have any skill, and they don't want skill, because it's really interesting what happens when your passion is bigger than the tools you have to deal with it.”

    • @xoblitz9038
      @xoblitz9038 4 роки тому

      @@user-uy5mf1ro9m thanks for sharing dude I really like thinking about that

    • @joeltunnah
      @joeltunnah 3 роки тому

      But there was nothing sloppy about the song writing of those bands, which is also something to think about.

  • @ilovemypumas
    @ilovemypumas 4 роки тому +18

    2:25 I love how that girl blends with the wall - especially her socks

  • @Elderien
    @Elderien 4 роки тому +127

    It’s a relief. We are usually “pushed” to improve our technical skills. Nothing wrong with highly skilled photographers, but a full video of the importance of the Photography as a way to express yourself, feels like fresh warm air (makes sense?). Thanks Jamie, great vid.

    • @scienceofkaya9314
      @scienceofkaya9314 4 роки тому +1

      Daniel Vergara well there is also a good way to shooting raw and imperfect pictures. No reason to get lazy! But I know what you mean.

    • @JeremyLawrence-imajez
      @JeremyLawrence-imajez 4 роки тому +4

      Usually those who do good 'bad work', can do the other stuff to a high level too. You learn the 'rules', before you can then break them.

    • @Anon54387
      @Anon54387 4 роки тому +2

      This seems to contradict his video where he took a photo of a long disused subway station. Not that some post processing is bad, but for the most part a picture should be just as it was taken. In that photo he adjusted it so much that it didn't look anything like when it was taken. Now if that's the effect he wanted most of that could've been done on site with far less post processing work. That, in my opinion, is the art of photography and not a lot of post processing work. I see people say blur the background in photoshop as if they can't open the aperture up just for one simple example. I took a picture at an air show in my area earlier this year. It was of two sisters who both were taking a picture of an airplane. I opened the aperture up so the background was blurred and set the shutter speed so that the lighting just turned out perfect. It was a cute shot and just captured some humanity in a fleeting moment. That's the rewarding part of photography. I think digital is great in that it opens up the opportunity to experiment without costing a fortune in film as those in the past had to do, but the downside is that people often don't give things the thought to get the results they want. A few moments thinking about things when actually out photographing can save a lot of time slaving over a computer adjusting - time that could be spent taking more photos. Which goes full circle back to technical skills. Technical skills are a time saver as much as anything.

    • @victorcarmelo8606
      @victorcarmelo8606 4 роки тому

      Daniel Vergara Anon54387 that’s is your individual opinion and we might or might not agree. How we take pictures is how we please ourselves. I enjoy post processing as a way to experimenting with an image. A bad photograph is only bad to the viewer but another viewer might say is a great image. But to the photographer that image is how he/she wanted to make it. Taste has a lot to do with it too and as I accept Nan Golding is one of the great photographers out there, she is not one of my favourites. A camera is a tool to be manipulated and make images how the user wants to make an image, it does not dictate to the user how an image should be made. Remember that there are different camera and lens makers and they all give different results, so how can you say an image should remain how it was taken?

    • @k473r
      @k473r 4 роки тому +2

      Man. you still have to learn how to take photos. Style is not an excuse to avoid doing that. If you take "bad photos" because you chose it, it's ok, but if it's because you can't take them otherwise, that's completely a different thing. At least you should understand what are you doing and why are you doing it.

  • @dciccoritti
    @dciccoritti 4 роки тому +70

    I call it impressionism. It's my favourite 'genre' of art. More focus on feel vs real. Your videos are nothing short of brilliant. 👍

  • @mandi0459
    @mandi0459 4 роки тому +480

    One of the ONLY videos I’ve seen that isn’t about selfies, model posing or how to be a UA-camr. This is about art and feeling and I appreciate it so much.

    • @adamsamulionis5666
      @adamsamulionis5666 4 роки тому +65

      If this is an "ok boomer" moment, I'd like to point out that the UA-cam algorithm shows you what you want to see (what you most often watch). If you watch videos about selfies, model posing or how to be a youtuber. You'll most likely keep on watching that type of content until you come across new topics or genres of videos. No, Ash, there are way more informative, well made videos than a little few.

    • @mkdy218
      @mkdy218 4 роки тому

      Copy that! Great vid, captures to me what photography should be all about

    • @shinjite06
      @shinjite06 4 роки тому +25

      Why does there always have to be someone in the comments in these types of videos congratulating themselves on their good taste.

    • @yuzan3607
      @yuzan3607 4 роки тому +26

      You need to erase your UA-cam history then. I literally have never seen a video about selfies, model posing, ... etc. So it's not that there isn't good UA-camrs, you just need to dig deeper :)

    • @_peepee_
      @_peepee_ 4 роки тому +14

      the sun would literally explode before you finish watching all of the videos on youtube. theres millions of videos about art and higher thinking, youre just not looking for them

  • @CaytonicCox
    @CaytonicCox 4 роки тому +52

    you expressed what I feel about "broken" shots or shot that aren't..."good" and I hadn't had the words before to describe how certain images that you might say are "bad" are actually good because it has gained something else in the exchanged of not being as crisp or exposed correctly. Thank you for this video!

  • @Harlequin565
    @Harlequin565 4 роки тому +150

    Hah. I've been using Wabi-sabi as a theme on my photography course for two years now. Finally there's a video I can point people to if they're struggling! Wabi-sabi is also my answer to "why do you shoot film?". Completely agree with the perfection philosophy pursued by modern camera manufacturers. I feel very detached from my digital work these days. Great video Jamie.

    • @SamiSerola
      @SamiSerola 4 роки тому +6

      For me wabi-sabi is the reason why I shoot digital ;-) Digital cameras, and especially phone cameras are sort of imperfect as well. And I try to turn that as an advantage. But certainly shooting on film or why not even using a pinhole camera gives equally a lot of wonderful ways to seek for imperfection.

    • @cl0udbusting
      @cl0udbusting 4 роки тому +2

      Haha I was happy to see this video too! Doing a related thesis on this for my design course. Having trouble finding academic articles and books on Wabi-sabi and photography though. Have you come across any? :D I enjoy shooting film much more than digital for the same reasons

    • @noahgrabe3589
      @noahgrabe3589 4 роки тому +1

      You encapsulated my thoughts exactly. Shooting film is the only way I can achieve that same thrill I received when I first started shooting altogether.

    • @max801
      @max801 4 роки тому +1

      In my opinion the concept of Wabi-Sabi can be translated also like the pursue of perfection knowing that nothing can be perfect. Going after the imperfection could be seen as looking for the perfect shot because it becomes the goal and in zen philosophy there is no goal.

  • @LeylaHey
    @LeylaHey 4 роки тому +266

    Thank you for this! Lately I've been feeling like my photos have become so clean and 'perfect' that they've become stale. Whilst my technical skills (especially my retouching) have improved a lot this year, I look back at my older work and it was way more experimental and interesting :( My work feels so cold and impersonal now. I think there's definitely value in technical skill, but I'm overdoing it at the moment and need to take a step back.

    • @ParallaxPete
      @ParallaxPete 4 роки тому +7

      Exactly what ive been going through as well! this video came to me at the right time

    • @k473r
      @k473r 4 роки тому +18

      That's not right. You have to take a step forward. You have to think about what you want to express and find out the best way to do it. Clean and "perfect" photos are not necessarily stale. They are not better or worse than the "imperfect" ones. They just transmit different things.
      Style doesn't give power or meaning to a photo. Intention does.

    • @mattpalermo1482
      @mattpalermo1482 4 роки тому +4

      Leyla H, you took the words from my mouth. The better I get with Lightroom, the less interesting and memorable shots I collect.

    • @polleepops2012
      @polleepops2012 4 роки тому +1

      totally feel the same, ive been chasing technically perfect images and retouching skills and missing a "feeling" or moment and being slightly impersonal

    • @polleepops2012
      @polleepops2012 4 роки тому +1

      @@mattpalermo1482 me too!! they may look more "wow" technically but what do they say?

  • @dcamaraman939
    @dcamaraman939 4 роки тому +83

    I do Candid photografy, and there is no pose, setting, will be as special as capturing something real.

    • @kira-lilym6363
      @kira-lilym6363 4 роки тому +1

      Me too!! I like to take my film camera out & take pictures as and when I see a moment worth capturing. The fact I can't then sit & look at them and pick the best ones or take too many (film is expensive lol) means that they all have a much more comforting feeling to them, knowing I've captured a moment of my life

  • @netsky9158
    @netsky9158 4 роки тому +16

    When i started Photgraphy i was around 6, i didn`t know any rules for compesition since i was 16-17. The rules and importance of the "perfect" shot got pushed in my brain since i started film school. But i just fell somewhat limited by it, By exposing everything right and the perfect composition i think there is just something missing. My favourite shots are the ones i shoot on the run with my 35mm while i`m with my friends. And i think they will for ever be my personal "best".

  • @callumcheshire203
    @callumcheshire203 4 роки тому +37

    The ‘art’ of any art form is often lost when there is too much structure, I needed to remember this. Great video, so refreshing!

  • @wouldntyaliktono
    @wouldntyaliktono 4 роки тому +14

    Without doubt the highest quality photography channel I have ever found on the platform.

  • @defthoes7080
    @defthoes7080 4 роки тому +24

    Im so happy that there are alot of people who love photos which arent pitch perfect with me as a photographer I have always loved doing something different and out of the ordinary with my photos. One if the things that I do alot to get photos that are more abstract and have more life to them but at the same time give off this somewhat vintage horror feel to them is I use old expired film and I mess around with the settings till I get this very bizarre yet beautiful and haunting photo

    • @oh1990
      @oh1990 4 роки тому

      Static Purple do you have somewhere were you post your pictures?

  • @marcella8576
    @marcella8576 4 роки тому +25

    Where's that essay about when mediums become outdated the imperfections of it (record scratch, vhs grains) become romanticised and become that mediums defining feature

    • @cscully98
      @cscully98 4 роки тому +8

      'Polyphonic' released a good video-essay about this. The Beauty of Degraded Media.

  • @distomos8118
    @distomos8118 4 роки тому +61

    Agree, never liked polished imagery, it bores me.

  • @SuricataFpv
    @SuricataFpv 4 роки тому +4

    Before even watching I like this video already... Because this is how consistently this guy is with delivering Quality...Thank you

  • @NigelDanson
    @NigelDanson 4 роки тому +44

    Really enjoyed this Jamie

  • @yayayeye7659
    @yayayeye7659 4 роки тому +6

    I regret not watching this when the algorithm recommend it to me th first time. I'm so grateful that it did not gave up on putting this in my recommendation after ignoring it for so many times.

    • @yayayeye7659
      @yayayeye7659 3 роки тому

      Bruh, I searched for this.
      I need inspiration.

  • @thewebgp
    @thewebgp 4 роки тому +91

    Haven’t watched such a strong video about photography in general since long long time ago. Seriously.
    Thanks a million!

  • @taikang
    @taikang 4 роки тому +4

    You are like a Takeshi Kitano film amongst countless of Michael Bay productions. A true artist sailing his ship on the ocean of superficial beauty in our industry. You and Sean Tucker are my favourites. Thank you.

  • @friedricengravy6646
    @friedricengravy6646 Рік тому +1

    As a painter I can add that we play with broken & lost edges, soft in contrast with hard, in our pictures not only because contrast creates interest but also because they relate more to how we actually see the world. We can only focus on one item/area at a time & the rest is blurry. A camera (or painter) can present the image in perfect clarity that incapsulates every item & as a whole. This typically feels cold & stagnant, though most viewers wont understand why or put their finger on the ‘what’ that feels off. Instead, they will just always connect more with the other photos/paintings that do not use perfect linear representation to present every detail. The voice or the calligraphy of the artist is found in those choices. Where to blur, where to focus, where to lead the eye, & what aesthetic choices they make to communicate their message. Thats where u separate urself from others. Like a Blues player, there r only so many chords & only so many notes to choose from. We all get the same proverbial palette, what we choose to do with it…..THAT is our chance to stand apart.

  • @founddeadinmiami
    @founddeadinmiami 4 роки тому +2

    this is why i love shooting on disposable cameras. its something i do when im with friends, and i encourage them all to take turns with the cameras so that there are photos from many peoples perspectives. we sometimes take joke photos that are staged to be funny of course, but most of the photos are from parties where there's drugs and alcohol present, or where people are mid-blink, or contorting their faces while singing songs on rockband. im in love with the ugly, the obscure, the spontaneity, and the red-eye from the flash and the graininess of the film. it takes me back to those moments because theyre actual moments, not because theyre what those moments would look like perfected and set up.

  • @steevo1976
    @steevo1976 4 роки тому +28

    A fantastic essay again Jamie. I love the way you skilfully educate without ever being preachy or patronising. You’ve opened my eyes(and many more, I’m sure) with all of your recent videos. I’m sure these are a tonne of work to put together. Totally worth it. Great stuff. All the best.

  • @rick-deckard
    @rick-deckard 4 роки тому +50

    Its easy to forget about the artistic side of mediums

  • @DayBrake
    @DayBrake 4 роки тому +27

    Same holds for John Frusciante's older music, the imperfections make his work so emotional and pull you inside his dark world. Very nice breakdown :)

  • @miaxx937
    @miaxx937 4 роки тому +12

    I grew up loving low quality shit lol thought I was weird

  • @kawikalo
    @kawikalo 4 роки тому +16

    I loved this video because I've always felt this way, except I've never been able to put it in so many words... I love some of the imperfect photos I've taken far more than the technically "perfect" photos.
    Thank you.

  • @DS-rs4xn
    @DS-rs4xn 4 роки тому +6

    Nan Goldin is amazing. Her photos just feel real. Funny you posted this today, I was going over these points with someone in a discussion about how I’ve seen amazing photos passed up because critique seems based on technical perfection now days.

  • @opernce
    @opernce 4 роки тому +14

    I personally call it my grunge-esque aesthetic.

  • @KarlShakur
    @KarlShakur 4 роки тому +349

    tbh I still almost creamed my pants at the detailed zoom in at 3:36

    • @n00bie96
      @n00bie96 4 роки тому +16

      coomer, you are

    • @ami2403
      @ami2403 4 роки тому +5

      SAME

  • @SamiSerola
    @SamiSerola 4 роки тому +31

    "Imperfection creates individuality, and individuality adds value."
    After trying to find out what wabi-sabi is, I slightly disagree. Although, I am probably just as wrong about it as anyone else. However, I understood that part of Japanese culture and also the concept of wabi-sabi is not to seek individuality but to work together for something greater good. All joining to wabi-sabi tea ceremony are supposed to bend their head when going into humble tea room, and join the ceremony more or less as equal.
    I cite two claims by David (see the source in the end):
    "It [wabi-sabi] is about the minor and the hidden, the tentative and the ephemeral: things so subtle and evanescent they are invisible to vulgar eyes."
    "A myth of inscrutability around wabi-sabi has been fostered because, according to some Japanese critics, ineffability is a part of its specialness."
    One could even claim that wabi-sabi is about tacit knowledge, which is hard to put into words, and can be learned only by doing.
    Source: randomwire.com/wabi-sabi/

    • @BeyondSideshow
      @BeyondSideshow 4 роки тому +2

      You're right, of course, but the context here was modern photography. Hence the point about individuality adding value.

    • @howardmaryon-davis666
      @howardmaryon-davis666 4 роки тому +3

      I used the term “wabi sabi” in an article I wrote recently about a Japanese inventor who tried to make, and then market his own design of, to him, the perfect camera. He was an ex senior engineer for a large Japanese engineering company, famous for it’s high precision products. He eventually got his “dream” camera made in China, none of the Japanese companies would touch it. He called the camera “Isshiki”, which roughly translates as “all you need”. When I studied the camera’s construction, as part of the “review”, I noticed that parts of the camera body were not flat or parallel, particularly the curved ends of the body. I then realised that he had carved the models for the body castings out of wood and clay, by hand, and those body masters were used to make the tooling for mass production. So variations in his hand work had been translated into metal. On reflection and a bit of study of the book he wrote about his efforts to get the camera made, I realised that the imperfections, although not deliberate, did not bother him, as they were “wabi sabi”. Imperfections in his cameras to him, like the imperfections in a hand thrown earthenware teapot, charming and somehow enhancing the beauty of a hand made object.

  • @a.patel1
    @a.patel1 4 роки тому +32

    *reads title*
    *grunge/emo/indie in me awakens*

  • @tanjah9318
    @tanjah9318 4 роки тому +1

    That's why I still love shooting with 35mm film and polaroids. It's just so raw and always creates a moody image

  • @mikepawlikguitar
    @mikepawlikguitar 4 роки тому +6

    Whenever I watch Jamie's videos, I am always reminded of how cliche of a photog I am, and how I am just going down the "same old rabbit hole" every "other" instagram photog goes down... It's really nice to see that we really must understand all aspects of art.
    BUt Jamie, that Kodachrome man is looking awesome!! That's the exact look I love so much. Teal and turquoise have a profound emotional impact on me.

  • @shivangpgupta
    @shivangpgupta 4 роки тому +7

    This channel represents everything photography should be

  • @OwenEDell
    @OwenEDell 4 роки тому +6

    Yes! This is what my photography has been evolving into for some time now, so this is so welcome. I hear photographers talk about processing their images to match what they saw, and that’s certainly a fine skill to have, but I want my photos to reflect what I FELT. That seems important, and your excellent video reinforces this persistent notion of mine. I feel that working towards feelings is at the heart of any art form. It’s so freeing to understand this, and it opens new worlds to the creative mind and spirit. Jamie, you are speaking to such essential things, things that no one else is really addressing. Keep going. It matters.

  • @Andrea-lf3jq
    @Andrea-lf3jq 4 роки тому

    Yessss I always thought that about Nan Goldin. It’s the darkness and hopefulness in all of us. It’s the real ness and honesty of the subjects. I love the imperfections, I love the ruggedness

  • @moorereplacements9983
    @moorereplacements9983 4 роки тому

    I have a hard time looking past 289 individuals who could say they didn't like this. It's your opinion and worth every second. Keep making us look outside the box and learn everything we can to become someone we want to be.. Maybe becoming close to as good as you are. Thank you.

  • @kuchcyk
    @kuchcyk 4 роки тому +50

    Another intelligent, thoughtful, provocative and well-researched post.

  • @wowamber5107
    @wowamber5107 4 роки тому +29

    Just started crying at how beautiful nan's work is

  • @cofra7561
    @cofra7561 3 роки тому

    I am so happy to have found your channel. Your content is so precious. Thank you, Jamie!

  • @LaurenRaaijmakers
    @LaurenRaaijmakers 3 роки тому +2

    This is an amazing video, short and strong. I left that exhibition crying, but also with a certain satisfaction, that it is okay, we're human. The line you draw between her work and wabi sabi is on point! After several essays I wrote about her work I never drew that line even though I find myself often inspired by wabi sabi. Thank you for this video!

  • @Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel
    @Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel 4 роки тому +11

    Photography is nothing more than Art. there is nothing bad or good. Do whatever you want... make something cool and unique.

  • @dyeisee
    @dyeisee 4 роки тому +4

    This video gave me more inspiration to take imperfect photos. Some people do not understand that spectrum of beauty, but I'm glad to be one of those who does. Best UA-cam video so far imo.

  • @Marymationnn
    @Marymationnn 4 роки тому +1

    I think that’s why old photos look so good

  • @markshamilton
    @markshamilton 3 роки тому

    Your channel Jamie is one of only a handful I feel are worth the time. Always great content.

  • @merrillsafferman7754
    @merrillsafferman7754 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks so much for this video. I do a lot of different types of “blur” photography because it makes me feel something. I was beginning to think I wasn’t growing as a photographer, not taking sharp images (sometimes I do). You have just given me the validation that I needed to carry on as the photographer I am rather than the photographer I’m supposed to be. A life changer!!!

  • @ufeel8686
    @ufeel8686 4 роки тому +7

    This video is exactly what I needed. I began photography as a hobby recently and would like to delve deeper into the subject. However, all these technical aspects (bokeh, composition, ISO, etc...) are honestly quite overwhelming to me. Photography feels better in the terms you describe: emotions, authenticity and the feeling of looking at a photograph. I love the artists you talk about. I have always been unconsciously interested in their particular style of photography and you are the first person to make me consciously aware of that.

    • @jen.m.3781
      @jen.m.3781 4 роки тому +1

      Shona I would still recommend learning these settings and how to take perfect pictures
      A general rule of art is to learn the rules before you break them
      How can you take an imperfect photo if you don’t even know what it adds to it? What difference is it making? This goes with everything art related

    • @ufeel8686
      @ufeel8686 4 роки тому

      @@jen.m.3781 Yeah, I think you're right. This video just helped me 'find my style', so to speak.

  • @vanessarosales6705
    @vanessarosales6705 4 роки тому +2

    You’ve just blown my brain in making a video about a topic, so clearly, I’ve been struggling to explain my whole life!

  • @davea3600
    @davea3600 Рік тому

    I’m so glad I found your channel! Thank you for your work.

  • @samuelpandiangan6965
    @samuelpandiangan6965 4 роки тому +5

    once when i did a presentation at my photography class in college, my classmate laughed at me just because i said "i think it's okay if sometimes we get out of the boundaries, why not breaking the rule? , what if we stopped to seek for a perfection?"

  • @karla_zero
    @karla_zero 4 роки тому +3

    I love photography that makes you feel and can I just say that Nan Goldin's work is so beautiful, thank you for showcasing it. I have learned from you about arts and art history MORE than I ever have at the university! This video helped me realise that photography has many avenues and it's not all about a polished picture. There's a lot to it, because now I understand why I'm not drawn to (as breathtaking and beautiful they might be) images that are incredibly perfect and polished, I just don't feel anything looking at them, and I think that's a very important part of photography to me is the sense of feeling and story.
    I'm at the stage of learning photography and I'm exploring this media to find my own style and favourite subject to shot as I really enjoy taking photos and capturing moments. You help me realise that there's many other directions of photography for me to explore.
    Thank you for your incredible content!

  • @danzak44
    @danzak44 2 роки тому

    I have been binge watching your videos and this one right here really speaks to why I love taking photos and experimenting to create emotion. Thank you!

  • @virgilplays
    @virgilplays 4 роки тому

    My favorite vid youve done yet. Absolutely fantastic

  • @cmeluzzi
    @cmeluzzi 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you for this amazing video. You've touched on a really relevant issue. I've broken some photography conventions and I felt that many people don't understand when something doesn't conform to current trends (i.e. the pursuit of perfection). However, transmitting emotion is what matters most for me, so I prefer not to be always understood than just follow trendy rules. That's an artist's choice and each one should try and find their own voice. Keep on making these great thought provoking videos please!

  • @danieljonesfoto381
    @danieljonesfoto381 4 роки тому +5

    A lot of my favorite photographs I have taken are "imperfect", out of focus, contain motion blur, and have a certain emotive quality that I really feel. They are strongly connected to certain moments that don't reflect the reality of the situation at the time of capture, but, remind me of how I felt at that time. Some photos are like music that takes you to another time and place with a mood, or feeling. So, I wholeheartedly agree. The obsession with perfection in photography is something that irks me. I often feel like I am the only one that appreciates these photos of mine, but, lately, it seems my followers are really starting to appreciate them, as well. Thank you, Jamie for your thoughtful insights and great content.

    • @remuslupin6460
      @remuslupin6460 4 роки тому +1

      Have you ever tried to get your photos into a local art gallery or enter them at a fair? I bet you could totally branch outside of Instagram and have people really appreciate your art. :)

    • @danieljonesfoto381
      @danieljonesfoto381 4 роки тому

      @@remuslupin6460 When I said followers, I didn't mean social media. People in the community and friends around the world actually engage with me about my work while social media followers do not. You are completely correct.

  • @DogsandFilm
    @DogsandFilm 3 роки тому

    Jamie, your video essays are amazing. Thanks for keep doing this.

  • @daviddechamps8840
    @daviddechamps8840 Рік тому

    You may have put the finger on what I have been looking for for a very long time. The type of photography that truly touches me and inspires me. Thanks for that.

  • @temporarilyblond
    @temporarilyblond 4 роки тому +16

    I couldn’t agree more, technical advances give me a lot of stress as I’m not good at it and actually... I’m not really interested... I’m glad I can continue with my imperfection..!

  • @thetalkingfly
    @thetalkingfly 4 роки тому +9

    Jamie- I really enjoy this video. There is so much good stuff to think about. Cheers, Steve aka The Talking Fly

  • @spost26
    @spost26 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this video! It deserves all the views! Great art makes us feel something

  • @pwhite102
    @pwhite102 4 роки тому +1

    I agree. I love getting close ups of common things and changing the exposure so you get weird unworldly results

  • @VKValluvaAkash
    @VKValluvaAkash 4 роки тому +8

    I've watched, rewatched the video and will do so some other time when I feel like I need an affirmation to follow my gut feeling in pursuing any Art. Thanks Jaime!

  • @nicolasgilly1452
    @nicolasgilly1452 4 роки тому +6

    This was excellent! I didn’t see this video though.. I felt it

  • @nophunsarah9423
    @nophunsarah9423 4 роки тому

    disposable cameras are my fave for this reason. taking pics and not being able to see them. getting them developed and being surprised when you see what you get. feeling the authenticity of the unposed and spontaneous moments. I love itttt

  • @diam8749
    @diam8749 4 роки тому

    I figured out what it is with you. You’ve helped people remember TO FEEL, and to really THINK about what they want to do. A lot of other channles just explain/teach the technical aspect which is much needed, and cool. But you have to feel it.
    Bravo 👏🏾

  • @kapokikkodragneel1505
    @kapokikkodragneel1505 4 роки тому +8

    Omg
    "photography isn't reality, it's an interpretation of reality"
    I'm not into photography, I'm not an artist at all either. I just stumbled upon this and found it interesting to watch.
    But this line made a lot of sense. If I take a picture of myself I can look pretty, but I can also look ugly. 1 picture alone isn't me, I'm not only the ugly, not only the pretty, I'm both.
    I would often think that when I take a picture where I look pretty, I trick the watcher into thinking I'm pretty, while the ugly one is reality. (both are taken without filter) But I guess they're both the truth, neither are a lie or a trick.
    (this might sound very stupid lmao, just know that something clicked in my mind)
    (yes, I'm extremely self conscious and this is a way for giving myself confidence. Lmao)

    • @baldrthebrave1812
      @baldrthebrave1812 2 роки тому

      That's why when I'm taking a photo I feel like I'm creating something, not just capturing it

  • @thereclusiveblogger
    @thereclusiveblogger 4 роки тому +3

    All of my photography has been lead by my gut feelings and emotion then techniques. It has been a difficult road for me because of that thus far. But I have been proud of the majority of work so I can't complain too much. Anyway, I loved this video one of faves from you! Keep up the great work you are one of my favorite UA-camrs!

  • @MrEpiclost
    @MrEpiclost 4 роки тому

    it's refreshing how you advocate for a broader view of things as most people just see things in one dimension or from one perspective only.

  • @pranji108
    @pranji108 Рік тому

    This is the best photography video i've ever watched. Really touched my heart. Love the artists and examples you highlighted Jamie. Your'e the man dude.

  • @thomasw4422
    @thomasw4422 4 роки тому +3

    Her do also have masterful use of light and colour, so, they're still very skillfully made despite the so-called imperfections. I guess the take away from this is not to stress too much over perfect clarity if you are photographing as an art form.

  • @KirstenAlana
    @KirstenAlana 4 роки тому +4

    I think it's great to learn "the rules" so you know how and when to break them later on! Kind of as you said. Really appreciated this video.

    • @Ratigan2
      @Ratigan2 4 роки тому

      True, but isn't that a bit obvious?

  • @bogrunberger
    @bogrunberger 4 роки тому

    Wauw! What a video. Simply the best photography channel out there! Thank you, Jamie!!

  • @supakoolkris
    @supakoolkris 3 роки тому +2

    Jamie, I just want to say thank you for being here and sharing your thoughts and expertise about the art of photography.
    You have made me not only a better photographer but also a more observative and understanding human

  • @WesleyVerhoevePhotography
    @WesleyVerhoevePhotography 4 роки тому +5

    "your my favorite ones..." hahah amazing. this was another wonderful video jamie! very necessary and inspiring.

  • @MsFlowerPUNK
    @MsFlowerPUNK 4 роки тому +3

    "But with so much emphasis on these elements in the photographic community it's easy to fall into contemporary Western culture's pervasive obsession with perfection." I'm stunned! He really put into words what I've always found a bit off-putting about perfectly edited shots. With a lot of U.S. based professional Instagram photographers whose accounts I follow, I'm so focused on the hyper smoothness of their pictures, the way the color correction is PERFECTLY done, etc. that the pics look over the top..personally, I find that the elements of these perfectly composed, hyper- edited shots distract from the actual subjects of their photos. "Bad photos"-- the ones that are more human-- are easier on the eye I think. But they're rare! (at least on my Instagram feed lol)

  • @kingkooki7761
    @kingkooki7761 4 роки тому +1

    I always appreciate it when people don’t just see art or hear music but also feel it. I love music and art that makes me feel something not just please my eyes

  • @jeje7822
    @jeje7822 4 роки тому

    I love Jamie Windsor. I'm on UA-cam watching videos since 2007 and never came across videos as good as yours. Now I started watching it old videos. As you guys would say, bloody good videos.. :)