This is the third match where the submitter has tilted themselves into believing one hero was the problem Guys sometimes all you need is your team to have a change of pace or a playstyle change same thing happened with the Ram VOD and the Ashe one I mean i also have this problem when i see a sym on enemy team but we can work on this
All Right SO! Can't believe it's been 9 months later and I'm still getting harassed by Genjis 😆in all seriousness I don't know if it was shown in this video as much but I think I've gotten a better hang of dealing with them, aside from the games where the Genji is just truly amazing and unstoppable - he is such a snowbally/win more character and just good at targeting the supports with his abilities. Funny you mention, I'm a big Juno fan, she's become one of my mains, will have to try her out against Genji, felt like Moira was the play here Just a disclaimer: When I made the submission description I was def playing it up a bit - I focused a lot on the Genji/blaming my team just to thematically tie it with my first submission. I wanted to keep the video suspenseful so I didn't talk much about the later rounds but I was much happier with the way the game was going after that because my team was working well together and we just kinda clicked. Basically what you said at 9:00, totally agree with that, but admittedly it was hard to realize that with just first point alone. My saltiness is referring to the first point defense only, my team did great after that and I give them credit for that. The first round was just not good and they got some critical picks that led to some bad snowballs and I would still point the finger mostly at my teammates there but I absolutely acknowledge I had some misses as well (tunnel-visioning on the cassidy at 3:04 - could've saved that nade for my Rein when he dropped down) and the nano at 4:56 (I was concerned the enemy rein was going to go in and wanted to make sure my rammatra would be up, but even as a defensive nano it was a bit too early - next time going to try to be more aware of teammates' cooldowns and not try to be overly proactive to the point where I'm jumping the gun) - in general we did not know how to defend second point (castle), think we failed every time Second point I swapped to Moira because with the way the enemy team was playing, it was hard for me to play Ana and survive, heal my team, go for kills - their Genji was an issue for me which Moira can definitely alleviate a bit and put more pressure on him but overall I wanted to play a more fluid hero that could weave in and out and be more aggressive and self-sustaining, it seems like my support had a similar idea with the Brig pick. This wasn't pointed out as much in the review but I did end up killing the Genji 3 times on first point alone so it did help lol - the moment at 8:53 (was a bad ult by Genji) is a good example of my team being able to handle him. Don't have issues on our second point attack, as you mentioned I was chilling on cart lol, this is something I struggle with sometimes, when to get off the cart and help my team when I'm payload princessing, aka when do they need my help or are they fine bc cart time is important - 9:43 I thought my brig was fine but in hindsight could've minimized the risk there Small note but at 10:56 I was waiting for Orisa to use her spear before I ulted because I've been speared while using Moira ult too many times - worked out very well there 14:06 was not a great ult looking back, twitch chat roasted me hard on that but I also get baited by the rammatra a little bit when he ulted, plus our cassidy got 3 kills super quickly so my ult wasn't as impactful as I thought it would be - tried to close out the fight and proactively support my team when needed, they just did a bit too well there😅 and I generally like to aggressively moira ult so when I was making the decision it wasn't that bad of an idea but seeing how it played out after def should've saved it You hit the nail on the head with regards to playstyle adjustment - in this case I swapped to Moira to play a bit more aggressively with my team, counter the enemy's dives, etc. in general really happy with my team coming back from that bc I thought this was a loss, we really brought it back and I did compliment them in chat after the good attacks - I love how everyone thought this was a derank video and couldn't believe this is diamond but yes, even in diamond the games can be cursed too! Your comment about people coordinating a lot more reflects on this being diamond makes a lot of sense, that's definitely something I needed to work on while climbing - synergy, timing with other cooldowns, when to use what, and clearly I still have room to improve but that is def the difference between metal ranks and above that ik this was a long response (felt like I had to clarify some things, there's an imposter who commented earlier claiming to be me and is responding to feedback??) but I really do appreciate the review, can't believe I'm in Diamond now, never thought I would get out of gold when I first started getting back into comp and now I'm Diamond 3 actually! Post rank reset I dropped down to Plat 1, and getting out of plat was a struggle, at one point I almost dropped down to Gold 1 but I just stay persistent and tried to improve myself. The grind to masters continues haha your videos were super helpful in helping me get here, one of the most useful Overwatch UA-cam series out there
@@BlueArtic-bt4lq wow this shows it's really you Great breakdown of your thought process through the match hope emongg's advice and any helpful comments will help you improve and climb you got this man 💪
@@kozpain1567 @kozpain1567 funny because I have never seen this happen before so maybe it’s not a youtube thing but a you thing…maybe find something better to do rather than pretending to be someone else on yt and farming likes?
@@kozpain1567 I would def care more about someone stealing my identity over some likes on youtube, if you wanted actual credit instead of fake credit I would recommend submitting a video of your own, could get some useful tips too Seems like you’re pressed because you got called out
Ult at 14:38 - enemy team was already down 2-3 by the time Moira used ult with no teammates that were low health. Either a fat finger or a purely bad call. Granted their team closed out the game anyway but it could’ve easily been the difference between a wipe or a final push.
One big issue is fading in to save teammates when on certain characters you don’t need to, like monkey with ultimate, tracer with blink. Hasn’t been an issue cuz it’s at non fight times, but then you don’t have your fade at the start of a team fight when you really might need it. Just be careful about wasting your fade ability.
@Rabab_Asiri They did not, not every time. There were a handful of times where Doom was able to kill a teammate because he had been charged. Gotta assess the situation and see if your teammates are also shooting at Doom.
@@Vash-Venture That is def a bad habit of mine but almost always if a doom starts to charge when I'm using my suck I will let go of right click, were there any specific instances where you saw Doom get a kill bc only I was charging them up? I felt like if we were charging him up it was a team effort
I wanted to play some ranked support tonight and it was so ASS Enemy team had a widow and this bastards kept on walking the same path over and over (without taking cover) and my tank quitted
i’ve been told several times never to play Mercy or Reaper again and i have maybe 37 hours total (at most) in 2 months of playing 😅 i’m still learning man and i’m struggling lol
keep trying!! reaper is a great first damage pick. just watch ur cooldowns and make sure you can wraith out of sticky situations. with mercy i would suggest playing with the ai teammates and learn more movement with her!
@ thank you!! i would say i’m pretty good with both, but apparently 8k+ healing isn’t enough and having more elims and damage than the tank is not okay. i only play Reaper as tank when the tank isn’t doing very much 😅
I play Moira like this person... (My ults also need work, but I dont blame my teammates ever) and im only gold 4 granted I dont play comp that much, my plat and diamond friends all say I should be in plat or diamond Maybe one day ill climb higher perhaps
I knoe they played Ana first point, but this is just classic Moira player ego. To their credit they didnt do the typical moira play of fading into the enemy backline to do dps 90% of the game, but Moira players moreso than most heroes I feel like always think they do no wrong and its alwaus their teammates. Most players in general share that feeling but they literally sat on payload all 2nd point while their team did everything. Stop blaming teammates, look within. Only way to improve
I'm trying to watch this, but my cat hates overwatch content so it'll have to wait I guess ฅ^•᷄ﻌ•᷅^ฅ (I think it's the first person POV and everything flying around. She also dislikes Minecraft rollercoaster videos or car commercials where the car is coming towards the viewer)
That’s why I hate ow u spent hr to learn a difficult character like genji or tracer then a brain dead supp can destroy ur life just picking Moira instead of get better at the game. Plus this is even the reason why matchmaking sucks maybe that genji lvl is higher and the Moira ones lower but thanks to hard counter mechanics they play in the same elo for no reason. I’m tired of supp complain about genji and tracer and make blizzard nerf them, they are all like this ana so a quick recap to understand why she is brain dead and should be in silver not in plat: 1 - never heal her teammates so they can’t help u vs genji dives 2 - random nade on genji instead of nade him in close range to prevent or deny dives can also help ur team to take him down fast 3 - focus all the attention on genji (cause I’m a supp main I hate dive heroes) while never heal their tank that is holding space, make impossible for ur tank to avoid enemy rein roll his entire team 4 - the issue here is game sense (and I’m a gold player) u know why genji keep 50% winrate even with low dmg? Attentions so when ppl like u prefer to use every cd and ultimate on genji and not on the entire enemy team, the enemies can use that opportunity to take space. Genji like sombra or tracer can be countered just by watching him punish his mistake (the Million bugs can help a lot) and prevent him from dive. LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT HEROES, HOW CAN U BE IN PLAT?
You would think after their first review... they wouldn't open their introduction to the game like that..
This is the third match where the submitter has tilted themselves into believing one hero was the problem
Guys sometimes all you need is your team to have a change of pace or a playstyle change
same thing happened with the Ram VOD and the Ashe one
I mean i also have this problem when i see a sym on enemy team but we can work on this
All Right SO! Can't believe it's been 9 months later and I'm still getting harassed by Genjis 😆in all seriousness I don't know if it was shown in this video as much but I think I've gotten a better hang of dealing with them, aside from the games where the Genji is just truly amazing and unstoppable - he is such a snowbally/win more character and just good at targeting the supports with his abilities. Funny you mention, I'm a big Juno fan, she's become one of my mains, will have to try her out against Genji, felt like Moira was the play here
Just a disclaimer: When I made the submission description I was def playing it up a bit - I focused a lot on the Genji/blaming my team just to thematically tie it with my first submission. I wanted to keep the video suspenseful so I didn't talk much about the later rounds but I was much happier with the way the game was going after that because my team was working well together and we just kinda clicked. Basically what you said at 9:00, totally agree with that, but admittedly it was hard to realize that with just first point alone. My saltiness is referring to the first point defense only, my team did great after that and I give them credit for that.
The first round was just not good and they got some critical picks that led to some bad snowballs and I would still point the finger mostly at my teammates there but I absolutely acknowledge I had some misses as well (tunnel-visioning on the cassidy at 3:04 - could've saved that nade for my Rein when he dropped down) and the nano at 4:56 (I was concerned the enemy rein was going to go in and wanted to make sure my rammatra would be up, but even as a defensive nano it was a bit too early - next time going to try to be more aware of teammates' cooldowns and not try to be overly proactive to the point where I'm jumping the gun) - in general we did not know how to defend second point (castle), think we failed every time
Second point I swapped to Moira because with the way the enemy team was playing, it was hard for me to play Ana and survive, heal my team, go for kills - their Genji was an issue for me which Moira can definitely alleviate a bit and put more pressure on him but overall I wanted to play a more fluid hero that could weave in and out and be more aggressive and self-sustaining, it seems like my support had a similar idea with the Brig pick.
This wasn't pointed out as much in the review but I did end up killing the Genji 3 times on first point alone so it did help lol - the moment at 8:53 (was a bad ult by Genji) is a good example of my team being able to handle him. Don't have issues on our second point attack, as you mentioned I was chilling on cart lol, this is something I struggle with sometimes, when to get off the cart and help my team when I'm payload princessing, aka when do they need my help or are they fine bc cart time is important - 9:43 I thought my brig was fine but in hindsight could've minimized the risk there
Small note but at 10:56 I was waiting for Orisa to use her spear before I ulted because I've been speared while using Moira ult too many times - worked out very well there
14:06 was not a great ult looking back, twitch chat roasted me hard on that but I also get baited by the rammatra a little bit when he ulted, plus our cassidy got 3 kills super quickly so my ult wasn't as impactful as I thought it would be - tried to close out the fight and proactively support my team when needed, they just did a bit too well there😅 and I generally like to aggressively moira ult so when I was making the decision it wasn't that bad of an idea but seeing how it played out after def should've saved it
You hit the nail on the head with regards to playstyle adjustment - in this case I swapped to Moira to play a bit more aggressively with my team, counter the enemy's dives, etc. in general really happy with my team coming back from that bc I thought this was a loss, we really brought it back and I did compliment them in chat after the good attacks - I love how everyone thought this was a derank video and couldn't believe this is diamond but yes, even in diamond the games can be cursed too! Your comment about people coordinating a lot more reflects on this being diamond makes a lot of sense, that's definitely something I needed to work on while climbing - synergy, timing with other cooldowns, when to use what, and clearly I still have room to improve but that is def the difference between metal ranks and above that
ik this was a long response (felt like I had to clarify some things, there's an imposter who commented earlier claiming to be me and is responding to feedback??) but I really do appreciate the review, can't believe I'm in Diamond now, never thought I would get out of gold when I first started getting back into comp and now I'm Diamond 3 actually! Post rank reset I dropped down to Plat 1, and getting out of plat was a struggle, at one point I almost dropped down to Gold 1 but I just stay persistent and tried to improve myself. The grind to masters continues haha your videos were super helpful in helping me get here, one of the most useful Overwatch UA-cam series out there
@@BlueArtic-bt4lq wow this shows it's really you
Great breakdown of your thought process through the match hope emongg's advice and any helpful comments will help you improve and climb you got this man 💪
@@kozpain1567 @kozpain1567 funny because I have never seen this happen before so maybe it’s not a youtube thing but a you thing…maybe find something better to do rather than pretending to be someone else on yt and farming likes?
@@Bad3abdul thanks I appreciate it!
@@kozpain1567 I don't think it's funny to steal an identity it would've been better if you hinted a while after your comments that it wasn't you
@@kozpain1567 I would def care more about someone stealing my identity over some likes on youtube, if you wanted actual credit instead of fake credit I would recommend submitting a video of your own, could get some useful tips too
Seems like you’re pressed because you got called out
Another blames team...why am I not surprised lmao
You sound like you get complained about a lot.. common denominator is you bud.
Ult at 14:38 - enemy team was already down 2-3 by the time Moira used ult with no teammates that were low health. Either a fat finger or a purely bad call. Granted their team closed out the game anyway but it could’ve easily been the difference between a wipe or a final push.
@@CaulkMongler looked like she heard ram ult and decided to follow up assuming he was facing enemies
Lol the editor putting BTD6 theme at the end I thought I had the game opened in background for a sec
12:37 Most important takeaway from this video. Please can the gold supports in my tank games hear this message.
can you not blame your supports?
@venicetaylor9326 I'm a support main.
I think their ult was just a conditioned response, they are ram ult so they ult
One big issue is fading in to save teammates when on certain characters you don’t need to, like monkey with ultimate, tracer with blink. Hasn’t been an issue cuz it’s at non fight times, but then you don’t have your fade at the start of a team fight when you really might need it. Just be careful about wasting your fade ability.
Feels weird to see the new headset😂
He's been using it for a while now how are you just seeing it
I have not been watching all the vids lately
You did fine, genji just tilted you from first round.
Hey, I need tips on what I should do to climb. I have 56% accuracy with Soldier and 52% with Cassidy, and my team always lets me die. I'm high bronze.
I think... they need to stop charging doom fist. Your team will thank you!
but they killed him every time
@Rabab_Asiri They did not, not every time. There were a handful of times where Doom was able to kill a teammate because he had been charged. Gotta assess the situation and see if your teammates are also shooting at Doom.
@@Vash-Venture That is def a bad habit of mine but almost always if a doom starts to charge when I'm using my suck I will let go of right click, were there any specific instances where you saw Doom get a kill bc only I was charging them up? I felt like if we were charging him up it was a team effort
@@BlueArtic-bt4lq true
Tell that to all the teammates I’ve had especially the tank who wouldn’t stop shooting at his charge 😭
I wanted to play some ranked support tonight and it was so ASS
Enemy team had a widow and this bastards kept on walking the same path over and over (without taking cover) and my tank quitted
It is insane that the game has been out for years and ppl still don’t know how to counter widow
Had the exact same experience on support today too 😬😬
@@Dredgenn those are the same people who'll go and complain about widow online knowing very well it's their fault for not taking cover
i’ve been told several times never to play Mercy or Reaper again and i have maybe 37 hours total (at most) in 2 months of playing 😅 i’m still learning man and i’m struggling lol
keep trying!! reaper is a great first damage pick. just watch ur cooldowns and make sure you can wraith out of sticky situations. with mercy i would suggest playing with the ai teammates and learn more movement with her!
@ thank you!! i would say i’m pretty good with both, but apparently 8k+ healing isn’t enough and having more elims and damage than the tank is not okay. i only play Reaper as tank when the tank isn’t doing very much 😅
Imagine not hitting any of your cooldowns till 3 minutes into the game and blaming your team for it
I’m not a support player but, you definitely shouldn’t use sleep dart on cool down. The shatter play on eichenwalde could have been avoided.
I play Moira like this person... (My ults also need work, but I dont blame my teammates ever) and im only gold 4 granted I dont play comp that much, my plat and diamond friends all say I should be in plat or diamond
Maybe one day ill climb higher perhaps
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ALRIGHT SO!!
I knoe they played Ana first point, but this is just classic Moira player ego. To their credit they didnt do the typical moira play of fading into the enemy backline to do dps 90% of the game, but Moira players moreso than most heroes I feel like always think they do no wrong and its alwaus their teammates. Most players in general share that feeling but they literally sat on payload all 2nd point while their team did everything. Stop blaming teammates, look within. Only way to improve
They are statboard wh0res that's why.
Moira counters genji…interesting.
Aside from the moira gp, the Ana util was atrocious game 1.
Saying this before I watch it fully, if you are getting dove my something. Go brig fellas and prevent the value of the dive
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That’s why I hate ow u spent hr to learn a difficult character like genji or tracer then a brain dead supp can destroy ur life just picking Moira instead of get better at the game. Plus this is even the reason why matchmaking sucks maybe that genji lvl is higher and the Moira ones lower but thanks to hard counter mechanics they play in the same elo for no reason.
I’m tired of supp complain about genji and tracer and make blizzard nerf them, they are all like this ana so a quick recap to understand why she is brain dead and should be in silver not in plat:
1 - never heal her teammates so they can’t help u vs genji dives
2 - random nade on genji instead of nade him in close range to prevent or deny dives can also help ur team to take him down fast
3 - focus all the attention on genji (cause I’m a supp main I hate dive heroes) while never heal their tank that is holding space, make impossible for ur tank to avoid enemy rein roll his entire team
4 - the issue here is game sense (and I’m a gold player) u know why genji keep 50% winrate even with low dmg? Attentions so when ppl like u prefer to use every cd and ultimate on genji and not on the entire enemy team, the enemies can use that opportunity to take space. Genji like sombra or tracer can be countered just by watching him punish his mistake (the Million bugs can help a lot) and prevent him from dive.
LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT HEROES, HOW CAN U BE IN PLAT?
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