This Support Thought They Had To DPS To Win Games... Where Are They Now?

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  • @Xfacta12482
    @Xfacta12482 2 місяці тому +42

    Im not even an Illari main but that left click spam was the most irritating thing I've ever seen in a VOD review

  • @happytm6877
    @happytm6877 2 місяці тому +41

    1:41 Emongg's inner demon slips out of his voice for just a moment.

  • @ltv475
    @ltv475 2 місяці тому +14

    "my tank is critical? not my problem"

  • @pud469
    @pud469 2 місяці тому +31

    Please realize this is supposed to be fun. Being frustrated is fine and part of the challenge. However, if stress becomes part of playing games, when it is not your primary source of income, just turn it off. You will encounter enough stressful events in your life, that you can't just flip a switch to avoid. Try a different game, go walk the dog, or take apart your console and give it a good cleaning. Trying to win should be the goal, and results in self improvement. Needing to win results in blaming the reason you didn't and even others.

  • @AntivenomOW
    @AntivenomOW 2 місяці тому +50

    You can definitely dps as Moira in the metal ranks and easily climb this way

    • @GabeThaGoober
      @GabeThaGoober 2 місяці тому +3

      Yes but it also depends on who you have on your team

    • @AC_Milan1899
      @AC_Milan1899 2 місяці тому +9

      Moira can be taken to Plat with your eyes closed

    • @aargoves
      @aargoves 2 місяці тому +1

      to an extent

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope 2 місяці тому +13

      people keep saying this and it's not as true as people think it is. if you see a GM player who's doing an unranked to GM and just.... playing like a GM player in gold and playing dps only moira, yeah, they're going to be able to climb really fast because they are a GM player in a rank substantially lower than their own. that's not the same thing as "play DPS Moira, ez climb," no matter how much people want to believe it is.

    • @northbelle2317
      @northbelle2317 2 місяці тому +6

      @@sethescope i agree. that's why i dont think those unranked to GMs can completely work because its also in the mental side? like GM players see and experience the game differently. their reaction times and awareness too. so even if a lower ranked tries to replicate them, it wont go well from what i believe

  • @moleethedon
    @moleethedon 2 місяці тому +76

    The left click spam bothers me

    • @error404webpagenotfound
      @error404webpagenotfound 2 місяці тому +6

      A lot of people don't realize they do less dmg like that. It drives me crazy when people spam it.

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому +1

      @@error404webpagenotfound soo true lol
      though i can give them benefit that they prob didn't know when i started playing a few months back i watched a lot of vids on every hero so i had a lot of knowledge on them so they might not know tbf

    • @nik991
      @nik991 2 місяці тому +1

      yes i can't

    • @Princ3ssCai
      @Princ3ssCai 2 місяці тому +2

      I used to do that on illari, I never saw that tip on any videos but over time I just noticed it. And I wondered why I was never getting kills

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому

      @@Princ3ssCai lol

  • @DarkestNova556
    @DarkestNova556 2 місяці тому

    19:35 Emote for the Mythic Weapon triggered by holding reload. Could be on purpose, likely panicking and holding the button down

  • @dreissea
    @dreissea 2 місяці тому +40

    Hello again!
    First, I'm so sorry I missed the stream. I'm still asleep at the time you usually do these. I did catch it when the stream released on the Twitch history.
    1. I do have stick drift. I messed with the dead zone settings, but I would still get that weird flicking. Turns out, the aim assist along with the drift was messing me up. I lowered my aim assist and made the assist window way smaller and that helped a ton.
    2. I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't know about the Illari firing rate. I've slowed down on my firing now. To the person in chat saying to stay off Illari, kindly eff off. Quit acting like you've never had to learn a character. My highest win rate is with Illari.
    3. I'm way more confident with Ana, so that's probably why my gameplay changed when I switched to her. I'll try to keep that confidence when using other characters. I have been doing way better with Kiriko since I've started being more aggressive with her.
    4. When I got hit with the Cassidy ult, I legit didn't hear it. I'm not sure if my audio settings are messed up or what, but there are times where I flat out won't hear an audio cue for ults and other abilities. I even turned off my music and it still happens.
    5. The twirl thing is me trying to reload my weapon when it's full lol. When I was playing dps, I would constantly forget to reload as Sombra before jumping in for a play.... which led to another bad habit: constantly reloading. I'll have to find a balance there.
    6. I heard once to always die on cart and I guess I took that as a commandment lol.
    I will keep working on my gameplay. Thank you for all tips and feedback! Also, good job guessing the new rank!

    • @danielleee10
      @danielleee10 2 місяці тому +1

      For the audio thing, are you using headphones? Or just the tv audio, cus I’m very surprised you didn’t hear the cass high noon, just wondering cus if you’re not using headphones it could be good to invest in them, audio is everything in this game.

    • @dreissea
      @dreissea 2 місяці тому +8

      @@danielleee10 I'm using headphones. I may need to buy new ones. One side will sometimes go out so I'm hearing in mono.

    • @hails.bells99
      @hails.bells99 2 місяці тому +7

      @@dreissea I'd def recommend investing in some good quality headphones, it was a game changer for me! When I first started I couldnt hear a lot of audio cues and where ults (like junks tire) were coming from, which resulted in a lot of avoidable deaths. Now I die a bit less and climbed a couple ranks!

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому +7

      keep on pushing keep trying you'll definitely get better
      Good luck
      14:26 suprisingly that person in chat read you like a book and said what you said as well the lack of confidence hope you get the confidence on those heroes and you climb higher

    • @Princ3ssCai
      @Princ3ssCai 2 місяці тому

      @@danielleee10 I listen to the TV and I hear everything just fine. I don't think its necessary to use headphones unless you have hearing problems or you just want to.

  • @justinmsc5
    @justinmsc5 2 місяці тому +5

    Spam shooting is way worse than 10 less damage per charged shot.
    You have to reload like crazy playing like that.

  • @TheMCmace
    @TheMCmace 2 місяці тому +20

    the left click spam drove me nuts

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому

      lol maybe they don't know lol

  • @TREVANDTHECREWgaming
    @TREVANDTHECREWgaming 2 місяці тому +42

    You see the people in the comments… “isn’t there aim assist on console, he must be resisting it” clearly don’t play much console… aim assist hurts you more than it helps you… especially if they’re all close together both enemies and your pull to your teammates on Ana… that’s why all the top console players have sensitivity’s that practically erase aim assist.

    • @techno2949
      @techno2949 2 місяці тому +1

      and many top players I've talked to on console have found ways to make the aim assist even stronger and use that so it's definitely not all top players

    • @freshbud6113
      @freshbud6113 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@techno2949 which again has a trade off. It isn't a cheat code, you can easily miss many shots because a genji dashes by, traces blinks by, any mobile hero. Tanks as well, with their hit boxes being so large they can pull your aim a lot when trting to poke behind them.

    • @techno2949
      @techno2949 2 місяці тому +1

      @@freshbud6113 idc like at all I'm just saying you lied that's it

    • @SimonPetrikov12
      @SimonPetrikov12 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@techno2949 he wasn't OP lmao

    • @techno2949
      @techno2949 2 місяці тому

      @SimonPetrikov12 what does that change other than me saying "you" instead of "he" lmao so funny omg

  • @BloodPlusPwn
    @BloodPlusPwn 2 місяці тому +3

    I don't expect much from people who don't even take a second to understand how their characters function

  • @Princ3ssCai
    @Princ3ssCai 2 місяці тому +1

    21:53 as a support I feel this moment, not knowing whether to go deal with the flanker or keep focusing on healing while still being stressed about the player behind you yet nobody else turns around.

  • @plushcap3320
    @plushcap3320 2 місяці тому

    that left click spam is like trying to turn on your engine in -10 degrees

  • @One2Munch-ww1fd
    @One2Munch-ww1fd 2 місяці тому +4

    Them playing Illari and not waiting for her gun to charge made me feel some kinda primal support rage

  • @AC_Milan1899
    @AC_Milan1899 2 місяці тому +8

    Lower ranked supports just sit in the back regardless of where the tank is and then blame the tank for going in. They just don't get the concept of if the tank dies you WILL lose the team fight.

    • @doakesanddrax
      @doakesanddrax 2 місяці тому +11

      It's a give in take. Sometimes tanks dive and los heals and there's no way to keep them up. Sometimes supports are outta position.

    • @contagious_noob3651
      @contagious_noob3651 2 місяці тому

      Not necessarily I've had plenty of times where our tank will die but made enough room for me to get the support or the enemy tank will see our tank died and then try and 1v4 lol

    • @Xfacta12482
      @Xfacta12482 2 місяці тому +3

      I think the root issue is that they don't really understand the concept of space.

    • @jotarokujo3603
      @jotarokujo3603 2 місяці тому +4

      This isn't an mmo where your team wipes without a tank holding aggro.
      There have been times when tanks are borderline useless and times when tanks are absolute gods. Either way, the rest of the team can absolutely still win the fight, especially if the tank traded.

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому +1

      Usually this situation is a double edged sword cna be any sides fault

  • @Deviciara
    @Deviciara Місяць тому

    Oh I didn't even know you can't spam shoot on illari! Good to know , always wanted to try and play her more

  • @arciszero
    @arciszero Місяць тому

    If he had died here from playing mid - we would be talking about how he was peeking the widow and that death is on him. As a support, you don't peek the widow.

  • @Trevelyan007
    @Trevelyan007 2 місяці тому +9

    so where's the link to the previous video? i don't see it in the description.
    edit: I found it myself, "I spectated a BRONZE player who STOLE their teammate's hero... Here's how that went..."

  • @Wizardbeard91
    @Wizardbeard91 2 місяці тому +7

    If one person feeds its feeding when the whole team feeds its teamwork

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому

      that's not how it works

    • @Wizardbeard91
      @Wizardbeard91 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Bad3abdul that's 100% how it works l.mao

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul 2 місяці тому

      @@Wizardbeard91 not necessarily

  • @TREVANDTHECREWgaming
    @TREVANDTHECREWgaming 2 місяці тому +4

    He also mentioned he played other characters to “not be up in the mix of things” so he thinks playing far back is the play…

  • @seanwatson1220
    @seanwatson1220 2 місяці тому

    Honestly I love playing Moira for the dmg and healing but that’s because my squad mate loves playing doom, orisa, and rien

  • @ashketchup247
    @ashketchup247 2 місяці тому

    12:40 Whats with the stranger jitter in your aim? I thought this was console?

  • @ashketchup247
    @ashketchup247 2 місяці тому

    I feel like the spend most or this game either hiding or clicking so fast they're not doing any damage.

  • @MM-ux7kp
    @MM-ux7kp 2 місяці тому +1

    can an editor put in the link to the old video of this player? thanks!

  • @kadensingletary7879
    @kadensingletary7879 2 місяці тому

    How do I get a vod?

  • @sneezy4675
    @sneezy4675 2 місяці тому

    Am I the only one who has a lot of the left click spamming Illiaris in Diamond?!?!

  • @definiteg4909
    @definiteg4909 2 місяці тому

    Why is he holding the trigger on Illari? He's not utilizing her full damage

  • @darkforcesjedi
    @darkforcesjedi 2 місяці тому +1

    It looks like they gave the controller to someone else after round 1.

  • @kanekianti-sora1666
    @kanekianti-sora1666 2 місяці тому +1

    The flicking might be because of console's Aim assist (It just auto targets the enemy team player and worse with ana)

  • @KieranParrinder
    @KieranParrinder 2 місяці тому +6

    ALRIGHT SO

  • @Nexusquo
    @Nexusquo Місяць тому

    How can you ever win a game shooting like that? I’m legit confused how you could win doing that little damage. I guess just the matches where you get a lot of pylon value cause it’s low rank maybe.

  • @elbandito2982
    @elbandito2982 2 місяці тому

    Am I the only one that was a bit bothered by some of the left clicks on Ana? They randomly flick off to the side, sometimes just to a random wall 🥴

  • @bananaBread16
    @bananaBread16 2 місяці тому

    Everything if kinds fine, they just need to learn when to play aggressive or defensive and please god stop spamming the left click

  • @jordanfranke2126
    @jordanfranke2126 2 місяці тому +4

    ALRIGHT SO!!!!

  • @MrClonedzero
    @MrClonedzero 2 місяці тому +7

    Man, the twitch chat in these vids shows how insufferable they are. All these cringe PC players, the pathetic elitism is depressing. How is it 2024 and people are still like this. Gamers continue to disappoint.

    • @Xfacta12482
      @Xfacta12482 2 місяці тому +2

      Imagine be competitive in a competitive game... the nerve of some of these people.

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Xfacta12482 that is not what they're talking about and you know it. you are purposefully misunderstanding to give yourself permission to be an asshole, but you actually just look like you don't have any reading comprehension skills.

    • @contentconsumer3743
      @contentconsumer3743 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Xfacta12482Sportsmanship

  • @Starcantread
    @Starcantread 2 місяці тому +4

    The lower the rank, the more it may feel like each death hurts your progress. Even with a loss if ya got 0 deaths you can at least say you'd do better with a "better team"

  • @BonkVibin
    @BonkVibin 2 місяці тому

    You can easily do good dmg and get a lot of picks on support while still keeping up with heals for your team. I am so tired of people assuming you can only do one or the other to get good value from either. Every support (other than lw imo) feel very smooth when swapping between doing damage and healing. It's very easy to find a good balance. I had a kiriko play support the entire game on gibraltar comp but didn't even have 800 healing. Meanwhile she was flanking just to dps. She had like 10 deaths, 5k dmg, 9 kills, and just absolutely refused to play as a team or heal. I don't mind a fellow support being more dps based. It's frustrating sometimes but i just suck it up and pick up their slack. Playing around your teammates and all. But i really hoped she would at least play with the team a bit more. Taking smarter angles and using her ult for team fights or using suzu on her teammates at the very least. Well i got heated when it hit second round and she took ana from me. A bit childish on my part but i was having a really good ana game and was having fun on her. But she took ana just to get only 5 more kills and then sit on the bridge high ground in front of attacker first spawn the entire second round. We lost that game. Shocker to no one. It was open Q too so i had to keep 2 tanks alive and a dps by myself and i find it easier to do that on Ana, moira, mercy. But i just really didn't want to play moira or mercy as they didn't fit the comp and tbh i just don't like playing them if there are better options. Regardless, i played moira anyways just to help my team stay alive with my fast charging ult.

  • @nostalgjc1
    @nostalgjc1 2 місяці тому +2

    it almost looks like throwing

  • @AnonymousG6
    @AnonymousG6 2 місяці тому +2

    Does he not realize you can see everyone’s HP at the top of the screen as well and that the glitch is irrelevant..?

    • @AC_Milan1899
      @AC_Milan1899 2 місяці тому +2

      Haha Emongg is new to the game

    • @isaiahf-d846
      @isaiahf-d846 2 місяці тому +2

      he knows but at that point you're giving less attention to the actual gameplay

  • @EvanGiammona
    @EvanGiammona 2 місяці тому +2

    Bronze 1 to silver 4 I'm guessing

  • @shiberzz
    @shiberzz 2 місяці тому +6

    No one in this comment section wants this guy as a teammate.

  • @rickfsu22
    @rickfsu22 2 місяці тому +3

    OK I know everyone has said it already but the holding down fire button and doing poop for damage made me close the video. This player doesn't even know how the hero works and they're asking for coaching to climb??? How long has illari been out? Way to long for me to excuse not knowing how to play her, reassert in a comp game, go to quick play pls I beg

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope 2 місяці тому +4

      you sound like you're fun at parties. if you don't like a video, you can just close it. you don't have to leave some whiny comment. just get over it and go watch something else.

  • @nsa5102
    @nsa5102 2 місяці тому +1

    sombra playing like a tank.
    support played lika widow. then like a tank
    gg. it won't work

  • @Cairo5555
    @Cairo5555 2 місяці тому +1

    This proves what I thought before, ranks are way to close to eachother. This player clearly is lacking a lot of skills that higher ranked players have. Yet he still managed to get to silver :)
    Maybe they have to make things more complicated in how you gain or lose SR.
    Maybe also take into account how your acc on a weapon is, what heroes you swapped to, based on the other team, how you utilized the kit of a character. Did you use a health pack if it was right next to you, and no support anywhere. all those kind of metrics would make the whole ranking system a whole lot more sense I think.

    • @soup3043
      @soup3043 2 місяці тому +1

      I think using in-game stats to determine ELO in overwatch would probably be really nasty for the competitive experience.
      Cassidy can spam fan the hammer on tanks for damage, bastion can do the same with turret form, moira tends to top damage, healing, and eliminations in many games but also doesn’t win a lot of those games for her teams despite being a stats monster. Juno will usually have the most healing in a game and have many eliminations despite not really contributing a lot to them.
      I could go on and on, but that’s a really abusable system and I think W/L eventually gets players where they need to be. It’s expected that a player is not going to be good when they’re in silver, that’s the bottom 25% of the ladder.

  • @chickenmelon417
    @chickenmelon417 2 місяці тому +1

    On my alt account I’m currently at plat 3 averaging less than 1.5k healing per game. If you’re good enough you can just muscle your way into diamond just playing dps support. Mainly play bap, kiriko, and zen on that account

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope 2 місяці тому +3

      if your main is in masters or above, you actually don't know what you're talking about here. you're not winning on your alt because dps support is the way to go. you're winning because you're a substantially higher ranked player playing in comparatively easy lobbies. that is not the same thing as DPS support being a better play style.

  • @razgrizfps
    @razgrizfps 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s a petty and weird complaint that absolutely has nearly 0 impact on whether or not I would watch another video, because I love you emongg and will watch all of them anyway, but I hate your outros. It feels rushed to the point that you just seem glad to be done with making the videos (which, let’s be honest, is probably true and that is ok.) Since it is the same every time, maybe just record a heartfelt one and tack it on to the end of all of your videos.

  • @StepDaddyShane
    @StepDaddyShane 2 місяці тому +3

    He needs to work on his aim more than anything sheesh! Buddies out there shooting air 😂

  • @anjunxis
    @anjunxis 2 місяці тому

    as an illari main the left click spam bothers me but so does them constantly using all of the heals and having to wait to recharge🥲