No Shinji, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! -------------------------------------------------------------- PS2 Converted data from Persona 3. Difficulty: Normal First Playthrough
@@E_Hooligan dude not all 10 year olds are like that. I don't even know any 10 year olds who can't speak properly. Hell I even have a 9 year old brother who can speak properly.
Just saw the vid again, it wasn’t so bad. I suppose I was talking about Japanese things in general there’s always this one little kid along a whole cast who speak like jimmy neutron no matter what type of character it is. Almost as if writers were speaking rather than actual characters.
The second I saw his persona was Castor, I knew things were going to end badly for him... On another note, Shinji got threatened with a spear, was shot with a gun, and in the original myth Castor was shot in the back with an arrow. What do these three weapons have in common? Pierce damage.
To those who hate Ken for wanting to kill Shinji because Shinji killed his mother, remember one crucial detail. Ken's mother's death was listed as an accident, and in Ken's eyes, that meant the person who took his mother away from him was walking free from his crime. He didn't want to simply kill his mother's killer, he wanted justice for his mother's death, but the system failed to do so, not to mention the authorities would never accept what actually happened.
Super late reply, but he's trying to walk away so they don't HAVE to see him die. Sadly he doesn't make it, the spotlight is one last bit of cruelty, more than anything.
Don't hate Ken, He was only doing what he thought was right, a Kid, knowing his mom's killer was walking right infront of him, The hate must've been brewing for so long. It's rational for a kid to think that way , for such a great experience so young.
I can see why people hate Ken... but who can blame him? He's just a kid who lost his only parent who cares about him and was force to grow up fast to live on.
Shinji had three ways of dying, to revolver man, to Ken, or to the pills he was taking. He was gonna die anyway, so he warned Ken to not murder him, and then saved his life
That doesn't make him any less innocent. Not to mention it was Shinji who took a bullet aimed at Ken. The latter didn't even ask Shinji to save him. And Takaya was gonna kill both of them anyway. I don't like Ken as a character, but I fail to see how was Shinji's death exactly his fault.
For those saying "why didn't SEES kick Ken out after what he did". The reason Mitsuru and Akihiko didn't blame Ken for his death (which isn't completely true) was because they themselves felt guilty as well. They knew very well what happened the night Ken's mother was killed. Mitsuru even said herself "we were the ones that killed Amada's mother". They never confronted Ken about it either and maybe if he talked to them, all of this could have been avoided. Too bad they never did, instead they gave him time and later Akihiko does confront Ken and gives him the motivation to live for his mother and Shinji. Shinji did say to take care of Ken. Shinji felt guilty for not just killing a woman, he felt guilty for ruining the life of a child and wanted to die because of it. He didn't care how he died he just didn't want Ken to do it because he didn't want to make his life even worse than it was. Ken was going to kill himself after killing Shinji. That's why Shinji was saying stuff like "c'mon you're just a kid... you have your whole life ahead of you so don't waste it..." I wasn't surprised at all when they didn't ignore or shun Ken after Oct. 4th. It made sense. Like Shinji said, "this is how it should be" Sorry for writing a lot, after analyzing and studying the P3 characters Ken has to be my favorite and I get quite upset when people misunderstand the whole meaning and concept of Oct. 4th. It wasn't just to kill off a character, it was to strengthen the characters' bond and give them the motivation to continue living for a loved ones' sake.
And this is why I'd much rather play Persona 3 Portable, so I can save Shinji :'( But I've realised as well, these two pretty much just saved Fuuka's life! When Takaya talks about "one like Chidori", he means someone who can track and analyse Shadows, and that's what Fuuka's persona does. So for all those people who say that Ken's a murderer and stuff, he's actually a hero. He almost died in order to protect Fuuka.
Cierrakahana He still would have died anyway. It just would have been delayed. In the Manga it's explained that the pills literally are making his body weaker and it will eventually collapse. That's why he wears that coat all the time. his body temperature is irregular, so he's not hot when he wears it.
Lets be honest though,why would anyone care about him in the male route? he was boring! The only side we get to see of him until this scene was that of a foul mouthed ass hat to put it bluntly. which robbs this scene of all impact when you don't even get to know him as you don't care about him.
SEES kept too many secrets for far too long. Mitsuru was the leader of the group and she should've drawn a connection to Ken and Shinjiro the moment they let Ken stay in the dorms.
I know like Ken knows who did it, Shinji Knows what he did. Why even have them in the same dorm if you aren't gonna have them talk it out and Meth Hippy wouldn't be able to shoot Shinji
How was P5's writing poor? None of the games have poor writing. At worst they are all solid. I don't how anyone could see P5's characters as poorly written. In fact I don't even know what people are talking about when they say stuff like that, lol.
I felt so down walking into Shinji's empty room the day after and finding his equipment in a cardboard box on his desk. I shed deep feels as I looked at the Mjolnir I had made him for the battle and vowed to shove it up Takaya's ass for him. Sideways.
Sad I can't do that in Portable. Aroundight will slice through for him. And the Wicked Cestus, the Ga Boo, and the Claymore, and most definitely the Lance of Death.
The way that MF hit the floooor after his final words hits different. Albeit if it weren’t for him Ken would be in a body bag so yeah. Any and all death scenes in this OG were so BRUTAL.
Sad fact: Shijiro’s persona ONLY has use of attacks and skills that drain his HP. Due to the suppressors he took to hide his power, using it at all causes him to suffer.
So here's a creepy coincidence: A few months ago, I was playing P3 at night when this scene came up. The next morning, I found out that my father had passed away.
Damn it must’ve sucked to have to grief in real life and see the characters in game grief too, however I’m sure that their resolve and acceptance of death helped you out too. Hope you’re better now
I know this comment is 2 years old, but my GOD, I’m so sorry. I lost my dad to a heart attack 4 years ago, and I know exactly what you’re going through. My prayers are going to you, my friend.💙
There’s a certain crustiness and vibe the original has that will just never be replaced or replicated with modern means. I absolutely love what Reload did to the scene, which is why I think it’s best treated as a complement than a replacement.
I agree 100% it looks like a 90s VCR tape being played on DVR or whatever that retro thing was called. These CGI scenes 2007 hit different than 2024 fr
Why so much hate on Ken??? I mean if you've played Persona Q Shadow of The Labyrinth, there's a part with Kanji and Ken, Ken keeps on ranting on about his moms death, and that's probably how you would react as well. PLUS it got treated as an accident. Sure, I wouldn't intend to kill the guy, but I'd sure give him a good beating. Srsly doh, the feels :(
JourneyML1 to be honest the whole thing surrounding ken is dumb, mitsuru and Akihiko themselves knew what happened yet distanced themselves from it, the whole thing could of been avoided if they faced it and actually spent time talking about it, and letting ken and SHINJI do there thing in a safe manor, I mean I dislike ken because of how he is as a character not just shinji's death, he was however the catalyst for it. All in all the blame lies on each of them, another thing to note, is that shinji was unfortunately kinda already dieing due to the suoressors, and due to his lack of will to live in the male story, death was a certainty :(
Ken wasn't even the one who killed him! You can clearly see the kid is hesitating and doesn't want to go through with it. It was Takaya who shot Shinji. Not to mention Shinji would've died anyway because of the drugs or his persona. Seriously, leave Ken alone. The kid is barely twelve and already has depression and suicidal tendencies because of trauma.
Am I the only one bugged by the fact that it takes the entire party walking all the way from the station to the dorm for Mitsuru to realize Ken's out trying to kill Shinji?
I just watched the Reload ver. of this cutscene, and I still prefer the OG. It hits way more hard and you gotta love how Aragaki chooses to stand before succumbing to death.
I actually overall like how this scene went in Reload, but I do wish the cinematic in Reload took just a few more cues from this iteration. Also MAN though I forgot about Derek Stephen Prince's performance as Takaya.
why do people hate Ken? this is a 10 year old boy who lost his mother and found that the person who killed his mother is a friend who had died in front of him
I think it’s because we knew that Shinjiro lost control of his persona and killed his mother by accident. But Ken has already made up his mind, when he has already seen that Shinjiro deeply cares about him He does feel guilt over what he did (even though it was an accident) You have to keep in mind Shinjiro also joined the group even though he didn’t want to rejoin because of his drawbacks and because of Ken. I don’t hate ken either, but it does make my blood boil that he never did connect more He genuinely seems like a smart kid. He would also have to realize that if he did Shinji he wouldn’t be any better, he would have killed an innocent young man for something he had no control over. But I like how detailed and in-depth this is, really makes you think and challenge you if what Ken is doing is correct.
So, a little boy with no parents, who honestly wanted to kill himself, and then deluded himself to kill someone else as revenge for his mother, deserved to die? ...plus, he didn't even kill the guy! It was Takaya! Hell, in the japanese version, he's like "I don't want to kill Shinjiro anymore."
Not only that but Shinjiro was going to die anyway, either to Ken getting his revenge (and falling into the same pit as Shinjiro), his pills, or Takaya. So he went out saving Ken so he could live. and Ken broke because now, he can't even get revenge, all of the emotions hit him, he doesn't even get to die too.
So why do people look at this scene and blame Ken for it? Takaya was the one who actually killed Shinjiro, in a moment I feel is utter nonsense considering that in actual gameplay Shinjiro and Ken could have whipped him.
This is what bugs me most about the deaths that happen in p3. Like, someone, come on, diarama? Recarn? Something? Nope, we're just going to watch him die.
@@nobleradical2158 And even putting that aside, Takaya is a pushover in gameplay yet we are too believe he can just kill Shinjiro because he has a gun? Even though whenever you fought that bastard him having a gun doesn't do him any good.
Ladies and gentleman we've got ourselves an internet tough guy here. Place your bets. Place your bets! Will he a.) Tell me to kill myself b.) Tell me more about how strong he is and how i wouldnt be saying this to his face c.) Say something racist or d.) Threaten physical violence. Im betting all of the above.
in most video games, antagonists, villains are always very important, most of them have a reason for doing what they do, a side where their actions make sense in a way. like sephiroth. i look at takaya and all i see is a megalomaniac drunk in power and his joy in causing pain. his defeat in persnoa 3 wasnt painful enough.
I feel horrible for Ken actually. He's a kid who at one point wanted to unlive himself! With what happened to his mum, then even police not believing him, he thought he surely only had one goal of getting to his mum's killer. But, at the very end realising that the outcome really didn't actually make him one bit happier, but in fact worse. He's definitely filled with regret. His main goal was for nothing, and he ends up feeling more pain than ever because he obviously isn't a bad person. He was a kid hurting a lot
I never saw it that way and didn't care for him. Pretty much every main character had some form of tragedy. But Ken essentially got shinji killed and had no repercussion for it. The community's hatred for him is 100% justified imo
@@saintsrownewsnetwork2910that's not what happened. EVERYONE is in the wrong. Also, Ken didn't directly kill him, it was Takaya, tf? Anyways, Ken shouldn't had planned this, shinji wanted to die, and takaya shouldn't had thought/killed someone
@@Hyp3rSonic I said that Ken GOT Shinji killed, not that he directly killed him. Takaya would not have gotten the opportunity had Ken not lured him out to in the first place.
@@saintsrownewsnetwork2910well, then blame shinjro as well. He didn't need to meet up with Ken, and he didn't need to take the bullet. Also, mitsuru and aki are indirectly responsible for his death. Anyways, shouldn't you hate takaya as well, since he DID kill him? Besides, if takaya did come, Ken and shinji would both die, no matter it ken wanted to kill him or not. So idk. But also, no, his hate is really justified, and he is extremely overrated imo. He's an extremely good character imo
I don’t understand, Mitsuru said she, Shinji and Akihiko were already SEES in middle school. But here she said Shinji two years ago Shinji was just new so two years ago was when they were freshmen in High School PS. Poor Koromaru, his owner fied in front of him, Shinji too. Who’s gonna take him on regular walks and cook homemade food for him now? :’(
I know this is a year old comment, but he actually says "Come on Ken, you're just a kid" if you listen closely. I used to laugh at it as well until a friend corrected me lol
As a person that played the games in the order of P5, P4, and P3 FES, really thought Ken was gonna end up being super evil, his character arc really grew on me.
After replaying this game with portable I was so disappointed that the original animated cutscene wasn’t there that I just had to search it up on UA-cam to see its greatness again
I think it's a well known fact that P3P doesn't have anime cutscenes, but if you're playing on PC there's a mod that restore all the anime cutscenes, so you should check it out.
@@sweateryoshi4026 Then I wouldn't recommend that they go around UA-cam looking at videos for the 14 year old game that many people have already beaten that they're in the middle of playing if they're trying to avoid spoilers
Mcintosh ‘02 you do realize that recommendations exist right? No one goes around actively trying to find spoilers. More often then not they get spoiled by getting videos like this recommended.
I felt Hope's hatred for Snow felt contrived Imo. He even says Snow used and manipulated his mother even though his mother volunteered and Snow didn't pressured her at all and tried to save her.
Shinji would have been saved right here, With the Dark Hour they should have quickly used their persona's to use a Healing on him, but i know that they were shocked that they didnt have the thought of it.
At least Persona 3 FES had the common decency to let Shinji stay dead and not pull that stupid shit they pulled in Portable where you could technically rescue Cihiro after her "death" if you maxed everyone's social link high enough
Ugh, watching this three years later after my ex showed me this game my heart broke all over again :( Shinjiro deserved so much better, he was such a sweetie
I-I don’t understand. Why do y’all hate Ken? He didn’t even kill Shinjiro! And even if he would’ve had the chance, Ken would’ve just been convinced not to.
A drifter in a crimson shroud...an ally weighed down by his darkness. He died protecting someone he wronged... Shinjiro was a great character. And in death, he gave Akihiko and Ken the resolve to become stronger
Both moments are great but damn. The fact that shinjiros link episodes tie in with his death and consequences, and also that the study sessions after show how much his death has effected SEES is amazing.
Are morons really blameing Ken for this. If anything it's a combination of Shinji, Akihiko and especially Misuru for not confronting the problem. They all knew what happened. They could've have them confront the issue where Meth Hippy wouldn't get a chance to shoot him. Also Ken's a kid. His mom was killed. You can't blame him for wanting revenge.
It's because P3/FES was made in the Renderware engine, which is stuck in legal limbo due to Renderware going out of business, and Atlus was too cheap to try and reverse engineer it. Not only is it cheap and easy to port P3P, it's also the version made to appeal to P4 fans. Plus it has a more favorable comparison to Reload, due to P3P having no visuals, and Reload reusing P3P's watered-down version of the script.
![Persona 3: Reload | A Dear Friend's Life [10/4 Story Scene]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/71XPZ3klw6o/mqdefault.jpg)
Some of the things Ken says are really scary. He admitted to having suicidal thoughts and he’s ten years old...
isabel vazquez To be fair, Sasuke Uchiha was younger than Ken when he started contemplating revenge.
@@shadestrider1033 true
His dialogue writing was dumb, what 10 year old do you hear talking with such a formal and grammatical speech
@@E_Hooligan dude not all 10 year olds are like that. I don't even know any 10 year olds who can't speak properly. Hell I even have a 9 year old brother who can speak properly.
Just saw the vid again, it wasn’t so bad.
I suppose I was talking about Japanese things in general there’s always this one little kid along a whole cast who speak like jimmy neutron no matter what type of character it is. Almost as if writers were speaking rather than actual characters.
The second I saw his persona was Castor, I knew things were going to end badly for him...
On another note, Shinji got threatened with a spear, was shot with a gun, and in the original myth Castor was shot in the back with an arrow. What do these three weapons have in common? Pierce damage.
SentaiYamaneko cool?
SentaiYamaneko I'm glad somebody noticed the mythology reference. Tho I only learned the name of Shinjiro's persona after his death.
Omg I never thought of that
ZOINKS MAN
KitKatBlackCat Should have been weak to Pierce
DOES ANYBODY HAVE A REVIVAL BEAD!?
name of profile pic 😂😂😂
Revival Beads only work if you get knocked out, not if you *actually* die.
Shoulda used an attack mirror before going there
Yeah meta stuff like that sucks ass
helena PLUME OF DUSK
This is all Akechi's fault.
ElHermanoMark2 1. Semi spoilers
2. How?
3. Joke?
FBI Alypstick
1. yay
2. Ugh
3. What’s a Joke?
1. 2. >3.
What’s a Joke?
FBI Alypstick gg no re
@Tum Tum though Amada is more reasonable and less unstable
akechi>ken
To those who hate Ken for wanting to kill Shinji because Shinji killed his mother, remember one crucial detail. Ken's mother's death was listed as an accident, and in Ken's eyes, that meant the person who took his mother away from him was walking free from his crime. He didn't want to simply kill his mother's killer, he wanted justice for his mother's death, but the system failed to do so, not to mention the authorities would never accept what actually happened.
Ken's arcana IS justice
What was her mother cause of death?
@@uagniza Shinji's Persona went berserk and attacked her.
Even Doh It's, Technicly Ken's Fault, I Can't Really HATE On The Kid
Another thing about it was, Ken said "after she died things just got worse and worse" so he must've thought it was because of shinji
Did Shinji get up just so he could die directly in the center of that spotlight?
maybe so
rofl
I mean, I think he planned that whole speech.
The Nobody14200 Well, if you're gonna die, might as well die in style. That's what makes Shinji a badass.
Super late reply, but he's trying to walk away so they don't HAVE to see him die. Sadly he doesn't make it, the spotlight is one last bit of cruelty, more than anything.
Don't hate Ken, He was only doing what he thought was right, a Kid, knowing his mom's killer was walking right infront of him, The hate must've been brewing for so long. It's rational for a kid to think that way , for such a great experience so young.
yoooo shut up u dead yooooooooooooooo
Wait people hate Ken!?
@@s0BAsob Yeah, the internet has most of every type of human being
Profile picture checks out
He's a live QUICK GIVE HIM A SeNzU BeAN
Why is it that every character I know that's named Shinji has to suffer.
Right...
:(
Mother: *Names child Shinji*
Shinji: Why're we here, just to suffer...
Lol Evangelion
Fate/stay night?
Because shinji matou is a bastard
Imagine grinding shinji to 99 and he dies before you get to use him against a boss
That’s what happened to me in P3R. I thought he was so cool and wanted to give him several of my Power Incense cards, but then he died :((
@@vesters9906Did you get to rewind before using the cards?
I can see why people hate Ken... but who can blame him? He's just a kid who lost his only parent who cares about him and was force to grow up fast to live on.
@Aiden Diaz It wouldn't make things better since Shinjiro is already dying at this point...
Shinji had three ways of dying, to revolver man, to Ken, or to the pills he was taking.
He was gonna die anyway, so he warned Ken to not murder him, and then saved his life
Bruh, it's literally because of Takaya that Shinji died. And no one is mad at him. lol
@@firestar4407 im pretty sure people dont hold him to the same light because HES THE VILLAIN
That doesn't make him any less innocent. Not to mention it was Shinji who took a bullet aimed at Ken. The latter didn't even ask Shinji to save him. And Takaya was gonna kill both of them anyway. I don't like Ken as a character, but I fail to see how was Shinji's death exactly his fault.
11 years later and i'm, still crying
ProteinSenpai Isn’t the story in 09 though
@@Miixle The US release of Persona 3 was in 2007.
manat31790 The game takes place in 2009
I played P3P version,and I'm crying too,even though there's no animation etc
Now it’s 11 years in canon
“Another Persona User!”
“Akihiko?”
“No.... it’s Gun Jesus.”
ITS REVOLVER JESUS GODDAMIT
*FOR HIS NEUTRAL SPECIAL HE WIELDS A GUN*
A gun, that can KILL THE PAST
You don't see many people with a TWEWY pfp often
pankekchi senpai I have taste 😳
Did you see that, Shinji?
Shinji, did you see that oh wait he's dead
as much as i love that quote to death, now really isn’t the time
Is it time now
Shinjiro Aragaki... Is Dead!
jesus christ ken is like 11, this kid is the living embodiment of an emotional rollercoaster.
His mother died in front of him years ago. He'd want blood for blood even at that point.
damn his mom and shinijiro died on my birthday just too harsh
That's my birthday too. Such a sad coincidence they died on a happy day.
Right I thought it was a different day but when they said October 4 I was dead like my mouth was dropped open.R.I.P
Well at least it’s nana-Chan’s birthday that day too :)
october 4th is my birthday too what the fuck
I am just SO FUCKIN PISSED that people hate Ken more than they hate Takaya for Shinjiro's death.
They legit ignored the gun-wielding hippie who executed Shinjiro and was nearly responsible for Junpei's death, just to pick on the grieving 10yr old
Facts
I was looking up for Persona 3 walkthroughs when I saw THIS video´s title. It fucked my life up, I was leveling him up like crazy...
For those saying "why didn't SEES kick Ken out after what he did". The reason Mitsuru and Akihiko didn't blame Ken for his death (which isn't completely true) was because they themselves felt guilty as well. They knew very well what happened the night Ken's mother was killed. Mitsuru even said herself "we were the ones that killed Amada's mother". They never confronted Ken about it either and maybe if he talked to them, all of this could have been avoided. Too bad they never did, instead they gave him time and later Akihiko does confront Ken and gives him the motivation to live for his mother and Shinji. Shinji did say to take care of Ken. Shinji felt guilty for not just killing a woman, he felt guilty for ruining the life of a child and wanted to die because of it. He didn't care how he died he just didn't want Ken to do it because he didn't want to make his life even worse than it was. Ken was going to kill himself after killing Shinji. That's why Shinji was saying stuff like "c'mon you're just a kid... you have your whole life ahead of you so don't waste it..." I wasn't surprised at all when they didn't ignore or shun Ken after Oct. 4th. It made sense. Like Shinji said, "this is how it should be"
Sorry for writing a lot, after analyzing and studying the P3 characters Ken has to be my favorite and I get quite upset when people misunderstand the whole meaning and concept of Oct. 4th. It wasn't just to kill off a character, it was to strengthen the characters' bond and give them the motivation to continue living for a loved ones' sake.
And this is why I'd much rather play Persona 3 Portable, so I can save Shinji :'(
But I've realised as well, these two pretty much just saved Fuuka's life! When Takaya talks about "one like Chidori", he means someone who can track and analyse Shadows, and that's what Fuuka's persona does. So for all those people who say that Ken's a murderer and stuff, he's actually a hero. He almost died in order to protect Fuuka.
When you think about though..If we could befriend shinji we COULD HAVE SAVED HIM!
Cierrakahana
He still would have died anyway. It just would have been delayed. In the Manga it's explained that the pills literally are making his body weaker and it will eventually collapse.
That's why he wears that coat all the time. his body temperature is irregular, so he's not hot when he wears it.
Hoodlum
Never the less,that's still a hole in the minato route.
It would have happened in the female MC's route too. He'd just have been prolonged. He would have died in either route, so it doesn't matter.
Lets be honest though,why would anyone care about him in the male route?
he was boring!
The only side we get to see of him until this scene was that of a foul mouthed ass hat to put it bluntly.
which robbs this scene of all impact when you don't even get to know him as you don't care about him.
SEES kept too many secrets for far too long. Mitsuru was the leader of the group and she should've drawn a connection to Ken and Shinjiro the moment they let Ken stay in the dorms.
I know like Ken knows who did it, Shinji Knows what he did. Why even have them in the same dorm if you aren't gonna have them talk it out and Meth Hippy wouldn't be able to shoot Shinji
P3 had the best story
P4 had the best characters
P5 had the best gameplay
Madnessguy564 P3 Depressing
P4 Justice
P5 Stylish
Pretty sure Persona 5 has the best story and gameplay. Characters goes to P3 tho.
How was P5's writing poor? None of the games have poor writing. At worst they are all solid. I don't how anyone could see P5's characters as poorly written. In fact I don't even know what people are talking about when they say stuff like that, lol.
@@deceit6639 Not "poor" but not as good as it could be compared to Persona 3 characters. They're all well written though.
Fair enough.
I felt so down walking into Shinji's empty room the day after and finding his equipment in a cardboard box on his desk. I shed deep feels as I looked at the Mjolnir I had made him for the battle and vowed to shove it up Takaya's ass for him.
Sideways.
Sad I can't do that in Portable. Aroundight will slice through for him. And the Wicked Cestus, the Ga Boo, and the Claymore, and most definitely the Lance of Death.
Me too man, I just made him Mjolnir the day before and now he is dead :(
The way that MF hit the floooor after his final words hits different. Albeit if it weren’t for him Ken would be in a body bag so yeah. Any and all death scenes in this OG were so BRUTAL.
Shinjiro was such a badass, and became my favorite character in P3. At least I can permanently use him in PQ :-) .
and in the femc route of persona 3 portable
@@chronos3717 Unfortunately, regardless of his fate, there's nothing you can do to have him stay at the party :(
6 years old a boy said for the first time "Did you see that shinji". Never forget 4/10/15
+Franko9021 no it was 4/10/09
5:31
I've been waiting for this!
(X) Attack (O) Relent
(X)
Sad fact:
Shijiro’s persona ONLY has use of attacks and skills that drain his HP. Due to the suppressors he took to hide his power, using it at all causes him to suffer.
Honestly this version hits way harder than the new one, especially Ken’s scream at the end
4:55 Ah... Joker would like a word with you Takaya.
Im crying XD
Or even Nanako!
"Come on kid, you're just a kid."
Every time, no matter how much I cry, that phrase ALWAYS gets me.
So here's a creepy coincidence: A few months ago, I was playing P3 at night when this scene came up.
The next morning, I found out that my father had passed away.
Aww. It's been a year but still, my condolences.
Damn it must’ve sucked to have to grief in real life and see the characters in game grief too, however I’m sure that their resolve and acceptance of death helped you out too. Hope you’re better now
I’m so sorry about your loss, I hope you’re doing better because you deserve happiness and peace
I know this comment is 2 years old, but my GOD, I’m so sorry. I lost my dad to a heart attack 4 years ago, and I know exactly what you’re going through. My prayers are going to you, my friend.💙
Damn, that is some coincidence
There’s a certain crustiness and vibe the original has that will just never be replaced or replicated with modern means. I absolutely love what Reload did to the scene, which is why I think it’s best treated as a complement than a replacement.
I agree 100% it looks like a 90s VCR tape being played on DVR or whatever that retro thing was called. These CGI scenes 2007 hit different than 2024 fr
Why so much hate on Ken??? I mean if you've played Persona Q Shadow of The Labyrinth, there's a part with Kanji and Ken, Ken keeps on ranting on about his moms death, and that's probably how you would react as well. PLUS it got treated as an accident. Sure, I wouldn't intend to kill the guy, but I'd sure give him a good beating. Srsly doh, the feels :(
Golden Scythe I hate ken because he led to the death of my favorite character
Golden Scythe It was treated as an accident, because it WAS an accident.
Golden Scythe I pretty much have an intense hatred against people who keep hating on Ken.
JourneyML1 to be honest the whole thing surrounding ken is dumb, mitsuru and Akihiko themselves knew what happened yet distanced themselves from it, the whole thing could of been avoided if they faced it and actually spent time talking about it, and letting ken and SHINJI do there thing in a safe manor, I mean I dislike ken because of how he is as a character not just shinji's death, he was however the catalyst for it. All in all the blame lies on each of them, another thing to note, is that shinji was unfortunately kinda already dieing due to the suoressors, and due to his lack of will to live in the male story, death was a certainty :(
Ken wasn't even the one who killed him! You can clearly see the kid is hesitating and doesn't want to go through with it. It was Takaya who shot Shinji. Not to mention Shinji would've died anyway because of the drugs or his persona. Seriously, leave Ken alone. The kid is barely twelve and already has depression and suicidal tendencies because of trauma.
Am I the only one bugged by the fact that it takes the entire party walking all the way from the station to the dorm for Mitsuru to realize Ken's out trying to kill Shinji?
I just watched the Reload ver. of this cutscene, and I still prefer the OG. It hits way more hard and you gotta love how Aragaki chooses to stand before succumbing to death.
I actually overall like how this scene went in Reload, but I do wish the cinematic in Reload took just a few more cues from this iteration.
Also MAN though I forgot about Derek Stephen Prince's performance as Takaya.
why do people hate Ken?
this is a 10 year old boy who lost his mother and found that the person who killed his mother is a friend who had died in front of him
I think it’s because we knew that Shinjiro lost control of his persona and killed his mother by accident.
But Ken has already made up his mind, when he has already seen that Shinjiro deeply cares about him
He does feel guilt over what he did (even though it was an accident)
You have to keep in mind Shinjiro also joined the group even though he didn’t want to rejoin because of his drawbacks and because of Ken.
I don’t hate ken either, but it does make my blood boil that he never did connect more
He genuinely seems like a smart kid.
He would also have to realize that if he did Shinji he wouldn’t be any better, he would have killed an innocent young man for something he had no control over.
But I like how detailed and in-depth this is, really makes you think and challenge you if what Ken is doing is correct.
In a day like this, October 4th, we lost a man, a soldier, a friend.
May your soul rest in peace, Midsummer Knight.
October 4th 2017.
All this time, I've been waiting for this!
Ken Amada impersonates Akihiko-senpai
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
It's implied he dies a little while after because of his medication, so just as sad if not twice as sad as the canon ending.
So, a little boy with no parents, who honestly wanted to kill himself, and then deluded himself to kill someone else as revenge for his mother, deserved to die?
...plus, he didn't even kill the guy! It was Takaya! Hell, in the japanese version, he's like "I don't want to kill Shinjiro anymore."
Not only that but Shinjiro was going to die anyway, either to Ken getting his revenge (and falling into the same pit as Shinjiro), his pills, or Takaya.
So he went out saving Ken so he could live.
and Ken broke because now, he can't even get revenge, all of the emotions hit him, he doesn't even get to die too.
If they remembered what happened in persona q, then maybe this could be prevented...
Then again, Shnji could die of the persona drugs he has taken.
"Persona drugs! Die slowly! Buy now for $10.04 now!"
*Saw Shinji death* Meh he would somehow survive that anyway
*5 minutes later* FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
So why do people look at this scene and blame Ken for it? Takaya was the one who actually killed Shinjiro, in a moment I feel is utter nonsense considering that in actual gameplay Shinjiro and Ken could have whipped him.
Every Strega fight was easier than any low-level Shadow.
This is what bugs me most about the deaths that happen in p3. Like, someone, come on, diarama? Recarn? Something? Nope, we're just going to watch him die.
@@nobleradical2158 And even putting that aside, Takaya is a pushover in gameplay yet we are too believe he can just kill Shinjiro because he has a gun? Even though whenever you fought that bastard him having a gun doesn't do him any good.
@@dragonstormx you know video game rules. Guns are useless in game but fucking godly in cutscenes
@tk Except if all it took to beat any of your characters was a gun, then why does Takaya keep losing?
Something about Ken just carrying around a massive spear while having this conversation makes me laugh and I don't know why.
I liked persona 4 but 3 was waaaay better in terms of story and characters
David James Yeah the gameplay is really the only thing 4 has over 3
Tim MVC Cringy I like them both the same characters include. Although in my opinion Chie is the best
David James it's cos Persona 4 has a story that's more realistic, characters that are more relatable, and presents events better than Persona 3.
David James it's hard to compare P3 and P4. Both are dark in their own ways. P3 is grim, and P4 is more sad.
@Di Mente yeah, realistic. Not real, but the characters and the story are a whole lot more easy to relate to, wouldn't you agree?
In terms of Persona 3 & 4 Fandom:
Persona 3:Best Story
Persona 4:Best Characters
+Ruby and Sapphire With strap ons.
Azura Persona 3:Best story and characters Persona 4: Best gameplay
Tim MVC Cringy
uh no I'm gonna kick yer ass
Ladies and gentleman we've got ourselves an internet tough guy here. Place your bets. Place your bets! Will he a.) Tell me to kill myself b.) Tell me more about how strong he is and how i wouldnt be saying this to his face c.) Say something racist or d.) Threaten physical violence. Im betting all of the above.
Mr. Gary Reynolds Dissapointing. Maybe next time folks.
Ken is too cute for this world.
ew
Akihiko saying “did you see that Shinji?” Hurts a lot more when he says it after this scene :,(
Dude kens crying is what gave me goose bumps, I feel bad for ken he lost his mom and shinji
in most video games, antagonists, villains are always very important, most of them have a reason for doing what they do, a side where their actions make sense in a way. like sephiroth.
i look at takaya and all i see is a megalomaniac drunk in power and his joy in causing pain. his defeat in persnoa 3 wasnt painful enough.
Even he had a few good Points. But he still is a crazy fanatic Nihilist.
I cant even begin to imagine this scene in reloaded
I can because Reload New trailer showed a bit of this scene, during Ken's eyes close up
just imagine this but persona5'ied
It’s fucked
where is that damn balm of life when you need it most
6:56 Okay it's a really sad scene otherwise but it's SO funny the way Ken answers Takaya
Takaya: is this true?
Ken (sweating): ...yes
I feel horrible for Ken actually. He's a kid who at one point wanted to unlive himself! With what happened to his mum, then even police not believing him, he thought he surely only had one goal of getting to his mum's killer. But, at the very end realising that the outcome really didn't actually make him one bit happier, but in fact worse. He's definitely filled with regret. His main goal was for nothing, and he ends up feeling more pain than ever because he obviously isn't a bad person. He was a kid hurting a lot
I never saw it that way and didn't care for him. Pretty much every main character had some form of tragedy. But Ken essentially got shinji killed and had no repercussion for it. The community's hatred for him is 100% justified imo
@@saintsrownewsnetwork2910that's not what happened. EVERYONE is in the wrong. Also, Ken didn't directly kill him, it was Takaya, tf? Anyways, Ken shouldn't had planned this, shinji wanted to die, and takaya shouldn't had thought/killed someone
@@Hyp3rSonic I said that Ken GOT Shinji killed, not that he directly killed him. Takaya would not have gotten the opportunity had Ken not lured him out to in the first place.
@@saintsrownewsnetwork2910well, then blame shinjro as well. He didn't need to meet up with Ken, and he didn't need to take the bullet. Also, mitsuru and aki are indirectly responsible for his death. Anyways, shouldn't you hate takaya as well, since he DID kill him? Besides, if takaya did come, Ken and shinji would both die, no matter it ken wanted to kill him or not. So idk. But also, no, his hate is really justified, and he is extremely overrated imo. He's an extremely good character imo
Facts
I don’t understand, Mitsuru said she, Shinji and Akihiko were already SEES in middle school. But here she said Shinji two years ago Shinji was just new so two years ago was when they were freshmen in High School
PS. Poor Koromaru, his owner fied in front of him, Shinji too. Who’s gonna take him on regular walks and cook homemade food for him now? :’(
He refers of the persona of shinji . Maybe shinji only help in the command room in the past
Late but I believe Ken adopts Koromaru
I know this is a year old comment, but he actually says "Come on Ken, you're just a kid" if you listen closely.
I used to laugh at it as well until a friend corrected me lol
The way ken cries is so sad
As a person that played the games in the order of P5, P4, and P3 FES, really thought Ken was gonna end up being super evil, his character arc really grew on me.
After replaying this game with portable I was so disappointed that the original animated cutscene wasn’t there that I just had to search it up on UA-cam to see its greatness again
I think it's a well known fact that P3P doesn't have anime cutscenes, but if you're playing on PC there's a mod that restore all the anime cutscenes, so you should check it out.
Dude, change the title, people are getting spoilers from the suggestion bar of other videos.
Absence of Grᴁ Dude It should have been “Ken confronts his Parents killer” and I thought of that in a few seconds
It’s been 12 years
Mcintosh ‘02 so? There are people out there who get into persona just now.
@@sweateryoshi4026 Then I wouldn't recommend that they go around UA-cam looking at videos for the 14 year old game that many people have already beaten that they're in the middle of playing if they're trying to avoid spoilers
Mcintosh ‘02 you do realize that recommendations exist right? No one goes around actively trying to find spoilers. More often then not they get spoiled by getting videos like this recommended.
Wow, that was a believable lie, Ken, and with good timing. Pretty clever. 6:56
I'm watching this because it's October 4th today...this scene never fails to make me cry/tear up...
4:17 *revolver jesus has enter the building*
5:30 HE SAID IT
Ken: All this time,
Akihiko Joins in: *I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!*
Snow and hope are exactly like ken and shinji. Kid, adult, dead mother and beanie. Ff xiii stole this story XD
Wow and these 2 games were my all time favorite games. No wonder why i love them so much.
+TOTC Final fantasy 13 is one of your all time favorites? Wow.
TheDkmariolink I guess someone has to like them....
But Ken and Shinji is better than Snow and Hope.
I felt Hope's hatred for Snow felt contrived Imo. He even says Snow used and manipulated his mother even though his mother volunteered and Snow didn't pressured her at all and tried to save her.
It's that time of year again, folks.
The good guys: "we can wield the power of the persona! The literal manifestation of our will!"
Takaya: "I HaVe A gUn."
Minako: “Did you see that Shinji I can save yo ass!”
Why do people hate ken? Shinjiro was shot by gun jesus not stabbed bruh.
Shinji did not see that coming.
Comparing to the remake. The delivery is too fast from Amada. But it's amazing how good this game was even back then.
Yeah
He's dead , MY MONEY IS WASTED , I BUY A GOOD AXE FOR SHINJI AND HE'S DEAD
Lol 😂
You can go into Shinji's dorm room and pawn his stuff afterwards.
"C'mon kid your just a kid"
Shinji will always be my favorite
Rest In Peace Homeboy
11 years ago Shinji has passed never forget
He's a kid dealing with a traumatic experience with the power to kill things, people with power tend to do irrational things.
Ken: DAMMIT HE STOLE MY KILL!
I started to cry but this comment cracked me up dammit LOL
DIDJA SEE THAT, SHNJI?
shinji?
oh.
9:05 my man just died in style 💪🏽😭
"Look kid, you're just a kid." It sounds so off.
I remember when Final Fantasy 13 tried to pull off this storyline and failed
Omg i thought i was the only one who though about it.
Shinji would have been saved right here, With the Dark Hour they should have quickly used their persona's to use a Healing on him, but i know that they were shocked that they didnt have the thought of it.
At least Persona 3 FES had the common decency to let Shinji stay dead and not pull that stupid shit they pulled in Portable where you could technically rescue Cihiro after her "death" if you maxed everyone's social link high enough
Today is the day again I'm just back here paying my respects
Man October 4th is a day of grief and celebration.
Ugh, watching this three years later after my ex showed me this game my heart broke all over again :( Shinjiro deserved so much better, he was such a sweetie
I-I don’t understand. Why do y’all hate Ken? He didn’t even kill Shinjiro! And even if he would’ve had the chance, Ken would’ve just been convinced not to.
shijiro's death 6th anniversary
A drifter in a crimson shroud...an ally weighed down by his darkness. He died protecting someone he wronged...
Shinjiro was a great character. And in death, he gave Akihiko and Ken the resolve to become stronger
So sad that Diarahan doesnt work during cutscenes
Glad I played through before I saw this or it would have been a spoiler in itself :
5:32
Ken is secretly Akihiko
I can't wait to see how this scene is done in Persona 3 Reload
Both moments are great but damn. The fact that shinjiros link episodes tie in with his death and consequences, and also that the study sessions after show how much his death has effected SEES is amazing.
"come on kid, you're just a kid"
Never forget October 4th
R.I.P Shinjiro
Are morons really blameing Ken for this. If anything it's a combination of Shinji, Akihiko and especially Misuru for not confronting the problem. They all knew what happened. They could've have them confront the issue where Meth Hippy wouldn't get a chance to shoot him.
Also Ken's a kid. His mom was killed. You can't blame him for wanting revenge.
Facts. Takaya, Ken, shinji, and aki are to blame. But explain to me, why mitsuru?
Edit: I understand now
If only we had a party member with some hands for healing-
Oh wait.
Looks at Yukari,Akihiko,Mitsuru,Ken with a glare
It's like Final Fantasy 7. I guess when you "die" in gameplay, you are just knocked out and the "revival" stuff just wakes you up.
@@garfieldlogan8682 They do say Phoenix Downs only cure unconsciousness and not death
Why can't we play FES on switch and watch these cutscenes instead of f*****g portable!😭😭😭
It's because P3/FES was made in the Renderware engine, which is stuck in legal limbo due to Renderware going out of business, and Atlus was too cheap to try and reverse engineer it. Not only is it cheap and easy to port P3P, it's also the version made to appeal to P4 fans. Plus it has a more favorable comparison to Reload, due to P3P having no visuals, and Reload reusing P3P's watered-down version of the script.