Debunking the 6 Hour Battery Replacement Myth│Remove the Rear Wheel?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Harley Myth Busters on the common misconception of having to remove the rear wheel on a 2018-later Softail to change the battery. Nick Culver of Laidlaw's Harley-Davidson attempts to replace the battery on his 2018 Low Rider Softail for the first time.
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Thanks Matt, this stuff helps to stop people from giving Harley Davidson a bad name. 👊
But haters will still hate. And apparently this "tech" called Country does not realizes that if people do not buy Harleys, he's out of a job. But of course, the way guy does math, I guess he was not graduate of MMI, or high school for that matter. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jobeta22 Can you imagine him trying to repair something remotely hard !!
Harley's already given themselves a bad name...
@@jobeta22 Jason's comment below yours is proof of your comment. Haters gonna hate.
6 hour job includes beer time, watch a baseball game, lunch time, nap time and 10 min of actually working on the bike.
Building credibility one customer, one video at a time. Thank you Matt, your videos enhances ownership value. Any nugget of information is a pearl of wisdom from a credible source. Great job Nick. Most important sweet bike. Road Glide forever. Ride safe & ride often.
hahahahaha. I didnt expect you to roast people, but lol.
I commented on that video and OP was not happy with me telling the poster he was wrong.
I saw your comment. Lol.
He stuck to his guns with you.
Looks like he finally admitted defeat and pulled the video down.
And justice has been served
Nick did an awesome job participating in this video, great job to both of you. 👍👊🏻🔥
I didn't think any one could be as motorcycle video profficiant as Matt but Nick is proving to do a great job on these videos also. Love the bits of humour also.
I've done a few in the last couple of years and timed myself today. I can remove and replace an ’18/’19 Softail battery in less than 10 mins, as can anyone in our workshop. I laughed so hard at this rubbish! 🤣
Still not user friendly
@@johnengland8619 there are many bikes that are less user-friendly with battery access. These are far from the worst.
I want to see Country's review of the Livewire.
"Harley done left the gas tank off! Where you sposed to put the gas-o-leen?!"
Enjoyed every moment of the video👌.
It only took me 10 minutes to change the battery on my 2014 Breakout, and I’m not a mechanic. Some people just want to trash Harley.
BreakoutPete you do realize that your bike isn’t the same frame being discussed. Right?
Big Bear Bonneville...I know that. Ride safe friend
🏍💨🔥
Thanks for exposing the frauds out there, Matt. Not all Harley techs or riders know what they’re talking about all the time. I believe what we saw there was an old school guy just pissed at the general direction HD is taking and decided to cast their negativity back on HD, which in turn made them look very foolish. Well done Nick and Matt!
Thanks again to Matt and Nick. I just finished installing my heel toe shifter, mustache bar, and removing my battery (21 minutes, I'm old) to charge it as I have no maintainer, and Harley Davidson online is back ordered for 5 to 12 weeks. The 2019 Slim is 100% put back together, the right way, and ready to ride. A shout out to Matt for you video on loading Harleys, as I said I went 500 miles to get this Slim, and trailered it back. Your video of loading and securing bikes was great. Not only did I look like I knew what I was doing, by using a chock and tying it down like you demonstrated, it was perfect, road those 500 miles just fine. Just wished I would have seen the Transport Mode video before I trailered the bike 500 miles with its flashers blinking, hence the dead battery. All is great took her for a short ride today. Thanks again you guys are great..
Good job Nick. You’re already a better tech than Country.
Thank you for posting this. Love watching people do things the right way!
This was so cool to dispel a myth. Nick did a great job. Great job man - this is real content I have not seen in a while. Sincere for sure.
I don't think anyone can do Harley motorcycle related videos as well as Matt, but Nick, you do a great job on these videos as well. Love the bits of humour also.
What I've learned watching this..........Call Nick when I need my battery changed. lol
Great job Nick!!
Please don't hjahahahah
Thanks for this video! Got my 2020 slim and it took me like 10mins to remove it out of curiosity. Nice Job Nick!
There are ripoffs out there. It looked like a Florida plate on the bike and some kind of bike gathering. So whoever country is he’s ripping people off or whoever he’s working for is definitely ripping people off .
Back in the 80’s I got ripped off by a shop in Chicago where I had my bike in storage for the winter. They did several hundred dollars of work on it that wasn’t needed and that I didn’t ask for . When I went to pick it up and they were charging me $700 more than the storage fee I was irate. They did the bit of we have your bike and your key and your not getting it until you pay . It was crazy ! I spoke with the owner and negotiated a few hundred down and left . The place was out of business a few months later. Apparently someone with deeper pockets than I had most likely sued them out of business.
Matt, thanks for video!! So many idiots on utube!!! Saying all kinds of nonsense!! Thanks for setting the record straight!!
James, the videographer of the "Country battery" video is Scooter Tramp Scotty. Check out this article / video from his website... www.scootertrampscotty.com/2019/04/08/the-motorcycle-vagabond-movie/
Scotty doesn't really claim to be a mechanic but Country obviously does. Scotty made a mistake and just now took the video down. Matt Laidlaw, you should seriously consider sponsoring Scotty as to a lot of people lives the Ultimate Harley Davidson lifestyle.
Country was doing country boi math there. Hopefully he does not quote prices to actual customers lol
I think you are on to something, Harley myth busters at Laidlaw Garage. So many people out there giving bad info and posting wrong info. You should start doing more of these videos to show exactly what you just did, prove these idiots wrong. Keep up the great work, funny and comical video......hope to visit your dealership one day.....
my first question would be, "Why would anyone need to change the battery on a Harley that's one or two years old?" The original battery on my 09 FXDC lasted 9 years before I decided to replace it (it was still working fine, I just got a bit paranoid with it being 9 years old). I did keep a trickle charger on the battery since new and I think that might have helped it last so long.
Yeah, I certainly did not need to take my battery out of my bike, still cranks instantly. Of course I am a near daily rider.
I've watched Scooter Scott before but not this particular video. Thanks for busting that myth.
Nick thanks for manning up and going outside your comfort zone. Please stick to sales even though I have three Harley’s you would make me run out of bikes waiting for a scheduled maintenance lol. By the way do you use Syn 3 in your hair?
Hahah thanks, dont worry I wont be switching to our service department anytime soon! I like knowing that we only have really good techs, something that I would definitely change if I was thrown into the mix hahhaha
Matt, I actually was just talking to nick and Jamie at laidlaws today on how your videos are the best and there are a lot of wannabe UA-cam stars out there for Harley Davidson but they are not credible. You make the best videos with the most knowledge!
Thank you! I really appreciate that! Thanks for stopping by too. Sorry I wasn’t there.
Country might be used to working on bikes from another country everyone's mechanic take your bike to a Harley-Davidson dealership it's worth it thanks for the video Matt and Nick
No it is not worth it. Do it yourself!
I have a different thing....to service the rear brake on an FLTCU you have to remove the battery to reach it properly! That's not to mention the right saddlebag, and sidecover. But it's a touring bike....they had to put everything somewhere! And it would be cool to do MOAR mythbusters!
Matt You and Nick are my to best virtual friends. I've learned so much (straight truth) form your videos. I just bought my first Harley, 2019 Billard Softail slim, based on your reviews. I went 500 miles for this bike the price made the trip worth it. I trailered the bike back to Oregon without knowing about the tow mode, so like you said in the video I watched earlier today, my lights were flashing for 500 miles. After I backed the bike off the trailer and went to start it the battery was dead. Which brings me to this video and a Big thanks to you and Nick for explaining how to access the battery easily.
This is my favorite type of comment. Not the fact that your battery died but that you get value out of my content. Hopefully you got your battery changed and you’re enjoying the new slim!!
Thanks for taking on The Country. And the beard does good on you. I enjoyed the myth busters more than all your other vids, but I watch them all.
This video is too funny. Surely the 6 hour video isn't serious. Thanks Matt & crew.
When I saw that, I was disappointed because I don’t think Scotty should have posted it. It was a mistake, but the guy shooting the vid, Scotty Kerekes is a cool guy with an interesting story Matt. He’s lived off of his bike only for 20+ years, riding and staying all over the US and Mexico. Love your channel too even though I’m more partial to older machines, but you make it interesting to keep up with what’s going on in the Harley World of new bikes.
I agree, Scotty should not be swayed by someone he partied with.
Thanks man this kind of stuff helps when you hear all this horrible s*** and you start doubting Harley-Davidson and then someone who actually knows what the f*** they're talking about disprove the myth. It's actually because of these videos and some from John Maxwell made me confident in owning a new Harley
Matt, I’m watching this one again and there is one major question left unanswered. Do you think Country is excited about Livewire? 😂
Enjoyed the Tech part of the video. Always good to have a debate and put corrections out there. Even though that battery set up is a joke. Could you imagine someone stuck on the side of the road without the tools needed for that process? Plus it wasn't the same model used in Scottys video. But if Matt says it doesn't matter you have to take him at his word because he does do honest reviews and videos. Been watching him a long time. That said. Problem with the video was attacking Scooter Tramp Scotty. He was just filming the mechanic talking about the process. He just put the information out. For all those who do not know Scooter Tramp Scotty. He has put on more miles then anyone you see in this video combined and then some. Probably more than all those combined commenting on this video. So the light you put him in is going to ruffle a lot of peoples feathers because when it comes to being a TRUE Biker and not no weekend warrior or RUB. Scotty is the man. It's actually those type of people Harley-Davidson has chosen to ignore. The blue collar working man and they wonder why their stock is in the tank and sales are nothing like they used to be. Guess it might have something to do with having to second mortgage your house to get a new bike. Or it could be that Harley-Davidson has to compete against itself on the Used Market. What ever Harleys problems is they are of the companies making. But attacking Scooter Tramp Scotty not cool.
If you are going to put information out on the internet, you need to make sure its accurate. I dont know anything about scotty, except that despite being corrected in his comments numerous times he has decided to leave his video up. He could have called a dealer and asked what the book time was.
Scotty provided a voice to this guy Country. He deserves to be called out for having done that, because Country was giving out some terrible information attacking the motor company in a totally false manner.
Furthermore, Scotty has now said that he simply doesnt care that the video is innacurate in the comment section! I cannot fathom the mindset that leads someone to upload something 100 percent false, be inormed its false, and then simply not care. It's simply irresponsible.
@@TH3G0ODGUY Problem with your argument Nick is people can hit you guys for providing false information because you didn't use the same bike as what was shown in his video. Do you expect people to take the argument "The handbook says so?" So if that's your take on Scotty pull up the same bike and show it to them on video without editing. I get it. Your a Cheerleader for Harley Davidson because you work for them. You have the Rah Rah Harley is the best motorcycle in the world. Fact is the location of that battery is a joke. Try changing that battery on the side of a road during real world conditions. Especially for someone who doesn't work on their own stuff. See here is the problem with Harley Davidsons Dealerships. The arrogance is what is killing the company. The dealerships try and put a good face on the company but the facts of the matter is the company is hemorrhaging. Everyone knows it but them. Should have Scotty did a correction or explanation? Sure, but he also might not share your view because the bikes were totally different. He and others could see this video as an attempt to help Harley Save Face for a poor design. If this wasn't Matt's channel that's exactly how I would've seen it. But because I believe Matt has integrity and does honest reviews I don't think that's the case here. One thing you youngsters will learn if you ever get around the older guys. They truly don't give a crap about the company because the company don't give a crap about them. The company long ago made its decision on the clients they want and now their sales are suffering from that decision. Upside with the company wanting to cater to RUBS though is anyone can pick up a nice used bike with no miles on it for dirt cheap. Thus making Harley compete against itself in the used market.
@@insanethrottlebikernews the bikes are not "totally different." They share the same frame, both are softails.
I know that and you know that. Point being like you said when putting things on the internet those who are not up on that kind of information would question you because they are seeing the comments below about it not being the same bike. That's the reference I was making
Classic!
Love Nick's bike, I'm building a semi knockoff at the moment. Would love to see some content about front suspension upgrades on these bikes, whether it's fork swaps or cartrige emulators or etc
It is better than my R1100S with the battery under the tank!
Russ wernimont has a drop in cartridge coming. They make some awesome stuff. I’d look there first.
Unbelievable what so called "Mechanics" come out with in the "world wide web".
As always: great Video - i would appreciate if you would post more videos concerning (basic) maintenance / service on your channel.
Just changed the battery on my Ducati Monster 1100 ... that's really "a pain in the a..." - no misconception ! On my 2017 Fat Boy S the procedure took me less than 10 Minutes - Thumbs up ! Though i have to admit, that i never had to change a battery (stock HD) on a new motorcycle that early.
Like your channel - good Job & greetings from Germany, Alex
OK best video on youtube this week.
Proved the idiots wrong. But they'll never shut up till is done on the exact same bike that Country was working on. Well done
It's a pretty amazing example of it being much harder to stop the spread of misinformation than it is to spread misinformation. We are a Harley dealer telling people we wont charge them 6 hours to change a battery and people still think we are lying! Why on earth would we lie to try to charge people less hahhaha
Good to know! Still, on your classic Harleys you could do all your own maintenance with the toolkit that came with the bike. To get at the battery you didn't need any tools!
Great music choice and placement in the video, was laughing out loud!
Wow, when I was young and intimidated by working on mechanical things my dad used to say “You can do it, look at the dumb asses that pass as mechanics.” That was solid life’s advice.😂
I watched this video and another. I was able to do it in 40 minutes from start to finish my first time. The biggest challenge was not dropping the screw when connecting the positive terminal. I did this and had to pull the battery back out to fish the screw out. I did have to pull the oil dip stick and cover the opening because the battery kept hitting it when trying to remove and install the battery. I have 2018 Fat Bob by the way.
that is INSANE to remove a battery. Just Ridiculous!
Hell yeah. way to go Matt! Way to keep it real. So glad you made this video. That other video was a joke.
Thank you Matt and crew 😁😁😁 I had a lot of fun watching this video.
when i saw there was a new video i wasn't expecting the Comedy Channel , but this sure was funny ! thanks
I’m so curious to watch that original video, anyone got a link?
Me too
I’ll try to find the link tomorrow. I showed the entire video.
Scooter trash.
Easy way find out,if he responds
Another Harley urban legend put to rest.
Great video Nick and Matt. Agree with the Service Manual message.
Scary thing is there are people like that out there actually working on other people's bikes.
WTF MATT, you telling me I been taking the rear tire off for no reason.. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Saw this video from Scotty about the battery change and thought no way. Hopefully they were just having fun posting
I had to order my 2004 Impact Blue FXSTI at the end of January 2004. I bought both the FSM and the parts catalog to take home to read while waiting for my bike to be built and shipped the following April. Those books are the best investment you can make.
Thanks for the video.
Well certainly would make me think twice about going to "Randy's Cycle Shack" in Sellersville PA. That's what's on 'Country's shirt. They seem to go to Sturgis and Myrtle Beach and all that, hopefully 'Country' isn't one of their regular tech's.
Still a poor design...never buy a motorcycle if you can't access the battery easily for troubleshooting purposes...
That primary cover bolt was over torqued and cracked the black inner at 1:28 you can see a visible crack
Yea I see what your talking about I don’t think that’s a crack
@@TheBigkal201 maybe dunno but I'd double check whoever's the owner
Did one(the first one I’ve ever done on a softail) in 25 minutes this evening. If someone is charging 5-6 hours for this it’s a criminal enterprise.
Haha yea pretty much
Service manual is 130 dollars but worth every dime to know your ride.
Or a lot less if you know where to look.
@@kshinn6032 You get what you pay for dude.
What I think is funny is that on one hand you got Country saying "Don't take it to a Dealer "; and on the other hand Matt Laidlaw saying, "Don't take it to Country "...when in reality you shouldn't take it to either. Anybody that dosen't work on their own bike IMO isnt worth a shite! At least Country works on his own bike...does Matt Laidlaw?
@@kshinn6032 pdf downloads are great.
Had to stop this and add whiskey to the coffee...this is a great chuckle!
That's some funny stuff right there! Thanks for always showing and telling the truth about Harley's Matt. Ride Safe!
One of your best , keep up the good work!!
I hope to make it down your way Matt so I can show you what I've done to my 2008 Deluxe, you and your staff are absolutely awesome ☮️
What dealership is this? So I know to never go anywhere near it.
... these guys fill motor oil in your swingarm bag ... be careful ;)
Get them your blinker fluid changed.
They work on bikes at Motorcycle Rallys
no worries, they don’t service scooter bikes!
Good lord, I had no idea my '14 Dyna Street Bob had such an easy access battery. One phillips head screw holds the cover on and you have complete access to the battery underneath. You could pop that thing out in 20 seconds. It's almost impressive how overly complicated the new Softail frame made this job.
Be sure to watch Country's next video: "You Gotta Split the Cases to Change the Oil!"
Really 30 minutes to remove a battery? That is still way too long. Most bikes I have owned I can pull a battery under 5 minutes. Maintainability is being abandoned. That’s what pisses Harley riders off.
20 minutes out of 30 min time removing battery was walking and looking into service manual
would love the link to watch those guys and have a good laugh myself. thanks for the update
Thats Scooter Tramp Scotty he claims to have been a Road Dog for over 20 years no home livin in a Tent but he's had a go fund me account an uTube channel an has claimed to have wrote for Easy Rider Mag. Fyi I am from Alabama an theres no way in hell I would ever let Country touch my ride 😂😂😂but its good to Laugh 😂thanks Guys
Not only is he a road dog, he is riding an old Evo Electra Glide that he put an S&S engine in. Met him when he was traveling thru my area, helped him with some parts to get his ride going.
@@jeckel6953 well glad you could help him out I repect your efforts as far as Scotty goes I lost it for him when he opened a Go Fund Me Account in my mind those type accounts are for the ones in True Need not a broke scooter. I would never turn down a hand if broke down on the side of the road But in 29 years of riding around 300,000 miles I ve never asked any body to fund my travels why best I worked for it ride safe an have an truly Blessed Day 😎
Just found the video, what I find truly amazing is that many people have told this guy all the info is wrong and he just keeps posting the same reply contradicting all logic. There’s even links to this video and dude is sticking to his guns that “Country”’s dad paid 6 hours labor. Some people can’t admit being wrong. Oh well, gonna go remove my wheel to adjust my mirrors.
Cool video: Thanks! Although you can no longer jump start the new Softails, it’s easy to replace the battery, if you forget to plug in the factory attached Pig-Tail (H-D slang for tender lead) to your Battery Tender.
Why does it take 10 hours to install a pair of T-Bars at every local L.A. HD shop??? Then they hit you with new cable costs. $2300 for a pair of TBars plus labor. Insane!!!
Why I love my 2018 1200 Custom. Takes 10 minutes.
I am telling you! Everyone who owns a Harley should subscribe to Laidlaw's videos. The simple truth.
Nick and Matt, there are so many untrue Harley myths out there, basically related to Harley haters, that you could spend hours on debunking. Please continue debunking the most damaging ones like this one. I have to admit, this myth is out there in the Facebook softtail sites. Since my Heritage Classic is still quite new, I haven't had a chance to find out if the talk was true so I was under the impression it is difficult to get at the battery.
I appreciate this comment! You’re right. I will have to debunk more myths.
this video was a worthy endeavor, thanks!
I came here legitimately wanting to know how to change the battery. Please just change the fucking battery.
I know this is a 4 year old video, but I had a question. Do you have to deal with the alarm system at all? I saw a video on a 2017 FXDLS, which I have, and they removed the main 40 amp fuse to make sure the alarm didn't go off. Just curious.
Haha. I saw your expensive Hollywood special effect trickery to make this look easier. I’m guessing your time lapse took place over 6 hours. I have to believe Country knows what he’s talking about, how else would he get that huge Lucas Oil banner?
Yea, true. He must be sponsored.
I think bad info like that and other stuff I heard is hurting new Harley sales. I heard the new M8 won't last long and not rebuild able.
Since when? People already have 50,000+ miles on some of them.
So I guess those two chuckleheads think you have to pull the motor and trans from the bike to get a battery out of a touring bike instead of just, I don't know, removing the seat...
I've never seen that channel, thank goodness, but great fun video guys!
This is exactly why you shouldn't believe everything you see on youtube. Great video and good to see a non tech doing this simple job. Cheers
Those country boys are including 5 hours for drinking a case a beer while performing the task.
Lol 😂
Don’t you mean two cases?
😂😂😂 this video is awesome
So when I remove the rear wheel for a new tyre do you still need to remove the battery, just want to check before I start the job!!
Great Vid, i am about to do a video to show how to remove the battery on a 2018 sportglide, and Nick has now instilled
me with great confidence, thanks.... and as for Country, did you check the date on the video, it wasnt April 1st was it?
we know Harley complicate things sometimes, but remove back wheel to replace battery????
Yeah like putting the filler neck behind a screwed in panel! BS!!!
OK, I'm not a wrench but I have certainly done my share of user maintenance over the years. I removed the battery without much problem, but putting it back in I cannot get the caddy around the back tab so that the whole caddy seats properly. I have struggled for several hours pushing, pulling, wiggling, removing and reinserting the caddy with no avail. The caddy will not travel far enough back. I have a 2018 sport glide. So if there is some tip or trick to getting that caddy to hook back over that back tab. I'd sure appreciate it hearing it. If this guy did it that easily, something sure was different.
This just took me 2 hours. lol. Granted, it was in the dark in a condo parking lot, and I definitely didn't have a service manual but getting those terminal screws back in is a nightmare, especially the positive. I ended up having to get a ride to walmart for some long needle nose pliers and I was in fact playing operation for sure once both terminal screws fell into the bike. Also, as far as I can tell, there is no way to jump start the bike, like at all. Also the white haired guy is Scooter Tramp Scotty. He's well over a million miles on his bikes at this point. He's an absolute legend. Sure, this isn't a 6 hour job, but it's definitely a headache. I had an 03 Sportster at one point that took 5 minutes flat. Simpler times I guess.
Point is taken. With that said, 1/2 hour to change a windscreen. 1/2 hour to change a seat. What's the flat rate time for a battery change?
Funny video, thanks to Nick fer busting them myths
SUPERB video.
Congrats, Matt.
Is this video still up? I’d love to read the comments now that you’ve destroyed his ridiculous claims...
Matt, this is awesome content. I’m still laughing at that guy!
I think this is what the guys across the pond call taking the piss. It sounds crude to our American ears, but that's what they call playing a joke. You guys did great at it!
It's a shame people like the subject of the video call 'information'.
You guys nailed it! Totally debunked that horribly wrong information..take the back wheel off to change a battery LMAO.
Thanks man 👍🏻
I pulled out my battery and replaced it in 10 min. at home so easy. an Allen wrench to take off the side covers, 5/8 wrench to remove seat, long phillips screwdriver to remove battery cables and a standard screwdriver to remove clips... 2019 deluxe
Right on. Yep. No rear wheel removal needed.
20 dislikes, probably from techs who charge 1000 for a battery change, ahahaha Wankers !!!
Thanks for the great video. My '19 114 c.i. Fat Boy is starting to reflect a weakening battery. I'm going to replace mine this weekend with a 320 cca battery. Not sure what the factory battery is rated at.
Another awesome video guys, you guys rock UA-cam 🤘😎🤘
But does the suspension adjuster play a factor though? He said his wasn't there
No it doesn’t play a factor. The instructions are identical for both bikes
Ask Nick to change the battery on a live wire.. lol.
Hahaha. That’s definitely beyond his ability.
As well as my ability. Maybe I should speak for myself.
Sign me up!
I believe him when he says he is not a mechanic. I think he held up a ratchet and said he had a wrench
We are committed to the truth and from keeping me away from customers bikes. I'm only allowed to put on license plates.
@@TH3G0ODGUY I think you just volunteered to change batteries. You thought you were doing Laidlaw a favor. Now he's found himself a battery guy.
Where do people get this garbage? I have a Sport Glide and installed the siren on the back of the battery caddie using only tools I already had and no shop manual. I only had the instructions that came with the siren. This required removing the battery and the caddie. I took me a half day not knowing what I was doing and most of that was removing and reinstalling the caddie. Gettng at the Torx screws holding in the caddie was really difficult with my Torx multi-tool. Like Nick said, replacing the battery is a little tedious on the Softail but no way on earth it should take a couple hours. Did Country do that video on April 1st or something?
I'd love to go to Laidlaws ,but I'm in London UK, I'd love one of them shirts
Would you have to remove a stock exhaust pipe if it was present? Or at least the slip-ons?
Nah the exhaust is low enough it clears. The service manual assumes the bike is stock and the step I skipped was the wheel speed sensor disconnect because I dont have abs. But that's just one clip.
@@TH3G0ODGUY , thanks! When I actually looked at my bike after watching the video, I figured as much.