Can Arbëreshë and Balkan Albanians understand each other?

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  • @BahadorAlast
    @BahadorAlast  4 роки тому +107

    Hope you guys enjoy the video! Here are some important links, including Martin's book that we mentioned in the video:
    Link to the book Martin wrote: www.academia.edu/36345307/Everyday_Arberesh
    Martin's UA-cam channel: ua-cam.com/users/ceniboy
    Martin's masters thesis: www.academia.edu/37913089/Arb%C3%ABresh_Language_mixing_translanguaging_and_possible_solutions_to_issue_of_maintenance
    Martin's Soundcloud: soundcloud.com/martin-hasan-di-maggio?fbclid=IwAR1ns4IJNcMBo02y8AlhCsnOUMnjMkMz6cDG0YKsBd5fdvtkiaR9yPzMr6g
    Video of Martin talking about Arbëresh: ua-cam.com/video/7BtEGgFETkg/v-deo.html
    Please contact us on Instagram if you have any questions or feedback: instagram.com/BahadorAlast

    • @ΜεσσήνιοςΣουβλατζής
      @ΜεσσήνιοςΣουβλατζής 4 роки тому +2

      @Valentina Valley or Italiot Greek(Griko) vs Standard greek

    • @karthikeyang7673
      @karthikeyang7673 4 роки тому +4

      You may do the TAMIL vs ENGLISH
      It's almost 50,000 words were similar between these two languages
      PROOF : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Dravidian_origin
      * GO TO TAMIL SECTION *
      WHY TAMIL ?
      TAMIL WAS THE ORIGIN OF DRAVDIAN LANGUAGES AND
      MANY FOREIGN RESEARCHERS TRIED TO PROVE THAT
      TAMIL WAS THE " ORIGIN OF FIRST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD "

    • @arbenshehu5998
      @arbenshehu5998 4 роки тому +9

      The guy from Sicily speaks better albanian that albania incompetent guy. Shame....for Klajdi..

    • @conspiracies1
      @conspiracies1 4 роки тому +2

      @olsi pajo zh-cn.facebook.com/intersexaus/posts/martin-hasan-di-maggio-talks-about-being-an-intersex-man-and-muslim-in-this-grea/2332938656745997/

    • @agronmataj8686
      @agronmataj8686 4 роки тому +1

      @@conspiracies1 Po ju qe ofendoni mendoni qe feja ju ngrite dhe ju bene me te mire se tjeret, dhe sipas teje Shqiptaret e fese muslimane jane jo Shqiptare te vertete. Me vjene keq po ju jeni nje shizofrene injorante dhe shume I pa ditur. Une nje gje di neve Shqiptaret kemi kombin mbi te gjitha, kurse feja eshte ideologji dhe kemi per qefe. Per mua kombi ashte mbi gjtha. Turp te vije injorante!

  • @artan.
    @artan. 4 роки тому +752

    This blew my mind.
    500 years appart and still remained so much of the language.

    •  4 роки тому +26

      we have a full language yes

    • @dan1j3l41
      @dan1j3l41 4 роки тому +18

      the romani languege is 1000 and more years appart from india and we still speak it today so iam not surprised

    • @bujorel
      @bujorel 4 роки тому

      @@dan1j3l41 ❤️❤️

    • @eroldbardhollari1934
      @eroldbardhollari1934 4 роки тому +1

      @@wrecked8746 plak vertet nlibrat ton të historis e kan bo fakt t krym qe jemi te ardhur nga pellazgët dhe shum prej nesh e kan marr tmirqen, por nuk ka prova :/. Sigurisht mkorrigjo nese jam gabim.
      Took it for granted that you speak Albanian, sorry if its not the case.

    • @Albanez39
      @Albanez39 4 роки тому +5

      @@eroldbardhollari1934 Jemi perzjere teper shume gjate shekujve, te gjithe jemi Pellazge. Edhe shume Greke dhe Sllave kane gjak Pellazg, madje edhe shume Italiane. Turqit flasin nje gjuhe qe origjinon ne mesin e Azise (nga Mongolia ne Kazakistan), dhe ashtu sic jane perzjere ata ne kaq shume shekuj pushtimesh, migrimesh dhe asimilimesh, ashtu jemi perzjere dhe ne.

  • @agonlata4748
    @agonlata4748 4 роки тому +1050

    The Arbëreshë words sound closer to Kosova and north of Albania's dialect.

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +23

      I agree.

    • @1998-h1r
      @1998-h1r 4 роки тому +19

      🖤🇮🇹🇦🇱🖤

    • @valbonaleka2210
      @valbonaleka2210 4 роки тому +79

      The arberesh speaks the language of Skenderbeg and he was from the north and spoke the geg dialect..my mother is from Dibra and she speaks exactly the same

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому

      @@valbonaleka2210 www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gs5zw
      I don't know where it is that you live Valbona.. Here's an interesting link for you. I think Dino's family were originally from Dibra.

    • @valbonaleka2210
      @valbonaleka2210 4 роки тому +4

      @@australiaprisonisland9156 First time i hear about this guy..Unfortunately it is not for good.The people I know from Dibra are honest and very friendly.

  • @francescofrega2268
    @francescofrega2268 4 роки тому +564

    OMG, i speak the same way! Arbereshe from Calabria🇦🇱🇮🇹

    • @simo_8895
      @simo_8895 4 роки тому +16

      Pershendetje vlla!

    • @heroiskenderbe5666
      @heroiskenderbe5666 4 роки тому +12

      Ciao Francesco, të përshëndes nga larg!

    • @algeh89xy
      @algeh89xy 4 роки тому +4

      @al_ b hi! I’m albanian from durrës and raised in italy. For wardrobe i say dollap and for ceiling tavan. For pillow i say jastik and for duvet i say badanije. Do you say the same?? Greetings!

    • @francescofrega2268
      @francescofrega2268 4 роки тому +7

      @al_ b hello!
      Cabinet "stipi" but it's a Calabrian word "stipu" (i'm from arbereshe town in Calabria)
      Duvet "paliaz" ( one "L" for arbereshe is italian sound "gl" -gli-)
      Pillow "cuscin" (italian word)
      Ceiling "qilli" the same word for Sky.
      Greetings to all 🇮🇹🇦🇱

    • @CRE8TIVE_AU
      @CRE8TIVE_AU 4 роки тому +2

      @al_ b you do our gheg dialect was written down in 12 century but many people do not mention it. foreign words are also in arbereshe much Italian loan..

  • @valdringashi5858
    @valdringashi5858 4 роки тому +278

    I met an Arbëresh at 9 years old and when i found out about their history i literally cried of joy. Ju dua të gjithëve përshëndetje nga SHKUPI

  • @stopinjorancestuaj
    @stopinjorancestuaj 4 роки тому +251

    500 years divided, and still we can understand each-other!
    The power of the Albanian language!

    • @jameshitselberger5845
      @jameshitselberger5845 3 роки тому +8

      I guess American English has been separated from British English for four hundred years. However, Arbereshe has existed within the milieu of Italian as the dominant language and probabky with little regular contact with its ancestral land. Moreover, we do not know if Arbereshe speakers wrote it during those five hundred years. Albanian itself was not fully standardized as a written language till after World War Two.

    • @AKumar528
      @AKumar528 2 роки тому

      Sanskrit and its children like Latin Greek language have been separated for thousands of years, still so Sunday

    • @bromisovalum8417
      @bromisovalum8417 2 роки тому +3

      The Turks are to blame for this.

    • @richlistening5511
      @richlistening5511 2 роки тому +1

      @@bromisovalum8417 lol

    • @cosettapessa6417
      @cosettapessa6417 Рік тому

      @@AKumar528 they’re not intelligible so wrong comparison

  • @GazmendHoxha
    @GazmendHoxha 4 роки тому +65

    I was Albanian. After watching this I'm officially Arbëresh. :)
    Great video! Love you guys!
    Greetings from Shkup!

    • @aurora_b
      @aurora_b 2 роки тому +2

      You can’t just change your ethnicity like that 😂. You’re Albanian if you were born Albanian, not Arbëresh.

    • @GazmendHoxha
      @GazmendHoxha 2 роки тому +1

      @@aurora_b You can if you see a video like this 🙂

    • @aurora_b
      @aurora_b 2 роки тому

      @@GazmendHoxha You should be proud of being Albanian, not change to another “ethnicity”. Are you embarrassed of being Albanian or something? Do you not find it historically appropriate to be called Albanian, is that what it is? Because technically “Arbëresh” people should be called Albanian. Being Arbëresh is as if I would say that I’m Kosovare or “Dardane”. Why divide ourselves into smaller categories, because of dialect? Arbëresh is a dialect not a whole new language, they speak Albanian, so they’re Albanian.

    • @GazmendHoxha
      @GazmendHoxha 2 роки тому +1

      @@aurora_b moter, kur dikush vendon shenjen :) kjo dmth se ben shaka. Mos e merr seriozisht. Me shaka e kisha.

    • @Estelleeeeee
      @Estelleeeeee Рік тому

      @@aurora_b You say that Arberesh it's a different "ethnicity" and then you say they are Albanians and their language an Albanian language and they should consider themselves Albanian and not Arberesh? From what I understood as a foreign observer is that Arberesh actually is the original language and Albanian came after :O You should respect it as it is.Arberesh and Arbaresh people. Romanians do the same with us the Vlachs from the Balkans. They say we are Romanians and are language Romanian, but we are not Romanians and the Language is called Aromanian Vlahic. :)

  • @tonychamb4730
    @tonychamb4730 4 роки тому +82

    Thank you for this amazing video Bahador. Arbëresh are the pride of the Albanian nation. After 600 years away from Albania, they still preserve their culture and language. Greetings to every Arbëresh in the world, JEMI NJË!!! 🇦🇱❤🇮🇹

    • @ebusufjan51
      @ebusufjan51 4 роки тому +4

      And now Albanian went to Italy and forgotten the Albanian language.
      Which is sad

    • @tonychamb4730
      @tonychamb4730 4 роки тому +4

      @@ebusufjan51 Really sad. I am myself an immigrant in 🇬🇷 and have never attended any Albanian school or class, but I have managed to learn the language as much as possible. But I guess only a minority doesn't even try to learn its mother tongue (I hope so)

    • @birdakasiakwvos
      @birdakasiakwvos 4 роки тому +1

      @The Unbekannt ...not now, Albanians almost accepted here despite the difficulties, not totally - almost. In Greece (happening in many other countries also) you have to accept all of a Greek mentality to be totally accepted. You can say you are Albanian or any other, but you have to act, think same same as the locals to be accepted - and also speak Greek perfectly. ...even me that born, raised here (i'm arvanite actually) as a local, i can easier accept Albanian mentality and make Albanian friends easier than Greeks.

    • @birdakasiakwvos
      @birdakasiakwvos 4 роки тому +1

      @The Unbekannt I didn't say thay you said not to assimilate with Greeks. Arvanites didn't have a problem speaking the language, but we lost it when we leave our villages and go to cities. Greeks don't have much a problem (before they had) if you say that you are arvanite and you originally came from Albania, but most arvanites here don't accept their roots. That mostly have to do with us arvanites here and not actually the Greeks.

    • @birdakasiakwvos
      @birdakasiakwvos 4 роки тому +1

      @The Unbekannt You're totally right. Most Albanians i know have Greek names and few times may speak Albanian in front of other Greeks. Greek orthodox church once had much power to the minds of the Greeks, still have power but financial mostly now. Many Greeks turn to atheism, and are now much more tolerant, especially here in Athens. Small towns and islands that don't have many tourists each summer are much less tolerant even with Greeks from other places. Albanians are now the most accepted foreigners in Greece, at least to younger generation.

  • @Rider-ed2mr
    @Rider-ed2mr 4 роки тому +181

    Arberesh have interestingly preserved ancient elements of Albanian

    • @aromatish5041
      @aromatish5041 4 роки тому +3

      @Valentina Valley its not true.. its a new gegh Dialekt. There is no ancient albanian speking in modern time. Lot mixed with turkish, slavik and new elements

    • @aromatish5041
      @aromatish5041 4 роки тому +1

      @Valentina Valley dardanians are a mix of illyrians and dacians. All of balkans are mixed. These Who say other are most nationalists

    • @vladodobleja748
      @vladodobleja748 4 роки тому +3

      @Valentina Valley Dacians are the ancestors of the Romanian people not of the Albanians,I'm Romanian so I know better!

    • @b.h.6250
      @b.h.6250 4 роки тому +3

      @Valentina Valley Albanians in Kosovo, Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro use a lot of Slavic and Turkish words.
      Albanians in Albania and Greece use more Italian and Greek words.
      All dialects are heavily influenced. As far as I know there is no research done on which dialect has the most foreign words.
      That said, it is true that the Gheg dialect is older than the Tosk one.

    • @b.h.6250
      @b.h.6250 4 роки тому +2

      @@curleddoughnuts6857 i am not talking about the Turkish minority. Albanian has MANY Turkish and Slavic words. And no, it’s not just in Prizren.
      Teze, daj, halle, axh, hajde etj jane te gjitha fjale turke.

  • @adelinzdrava9353
    @adelinzdrava9353 4 роки тому +87

    I am Albanian and I have to say that the Arberesh guy made a great job with the word's explanation, they all make sense and BRAVO for his knowledge!

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому +1

      Well , it’s our British Unis that cause a guy to develop . The non - native dark
      lad , in the other hand , is a lost cause and probably quit after high school , which in USA is usually crap .
      Regards ,
      A British - Albanian brother

    • @Qendrimmm9
      @Qendrimmm9 3 роки тому +5

      @@The3DProjects My dear albanian brother.
      Dont be like that. Why should the one from Tirane even care why the albanian words are like they are. He could have known much more, but I guess there was no interest, that doesnt make him dumb. I mean, the one in england, knows he has albanian ancestors who lived in italy. So when he meets Albanians in england, he sees that they talk differently, so he asks himself what could it mean, and how could it be explained. That doesnt make one super intelligent or dumb which would lead to quitting from high school. I am from Kosovo and I live in Germany so most people speak the way we speak in kosovo, so I didnt really care that much, it was more of a ok nice funny that the word means this and that in albania while in kosovo its the other way around, but I didnt really put much more effort in it in trying to explain for example, I didnt really care more or less. And I see no need to care that much from the one from Tirana. These things are nice to know, but doesnt define someone

    • @xheriss3079
      @xheriss3079 2 роки тому +1

      Ti albanian ? Se kuptoj pse flet anglisht kur je shqiptare
      Plus mbiemri jot duket sllav jo shqiptar

    • @puljano
      @puljano 2 роки тому +1

      Adelin you are so beatiful..come to Croatia and marry me 😁 Zdrava in Croatian means healty

    • @adelinzdrava9353
      @adelinzdrava9353 2 роки тому

      @@xheriss3079 Po jam shqiptare !
      Kam zgjedhur te flas ne anglisht duke qene se edhe videoja shtrohet ne gjuhen angleze duke pasur shikueshmeri internacionale.
      Per sa i perket origjines time , vendos ta injoroj cinizmin tend duke qene se nuk me njeh as mua as prejardhjen e familjes time, por te siguroj qe mbiemri e ka nje histori , por qe nuk ka lidhje me gjakun dhe rrenjet e mia shqiptare.

  • @micsokoli4207
    @micsokoli4207 4 роки тому +244

    I speak gheg Albanian and this Arbëresh language is just how i speak. I swear i got mindblown when i saw that Arbëresh is like the language i've been taught

    • @qamilselmani7003
      @qamilselmani7003 4 роки тому +14

      nfakt gegenishtja eshte gjuha qe duhet me rujt me fanatizem sic thot edhe elena kocaqi edhe librat me te vjeter ne gegniaht jane meahari gjon buzukut

    • @Nonchalant321
      @Nonchalant321 4 роки тому +15

      same, i understood more the Arberesh than i did the from Tirana.

    • @blackpaint9093
      @blackpaint9093 4 роки тому

      The arberesh language is a dialect of tosk..... Of course you understand it, Tosk and gheg are very similar, just dialects not separate languages, but arbereshe is solely a Gheg dialect

    • @User12345fan
      @User12345fan 4 роки тому

      no you don’t, they sound like southern albanians

    • @micsokoli4207
      @micsokoli4207 4 роки тому +2

      @@User12345fan they also speak different dialects cause they're from different parts of Albania and soithern dialect was not all ober Albania that time. Look at kanuni, it's pure gheg, no soufheen sound in it

  • @australiaprisonisland9156
    @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +250

    I'm a Gheg Albanian from Montenegro and the Arberesh spoken here is a lot closer than I thought.

    • @whatdidido3838
      @whatdidido3838 4 роки тому +16

      Yup I’m from DARDANIA (Kosova) and gheg dialect, very similar with the old arberesh language

    • @2DDigital
      @2DDigital 4 роки тому +2

      Ka te bej se vetem Shqiperia ka qene te
      pavarune per disa vite dhe gjuha eshte pastru/u bere ma artificjal kurse ne Kosove/Maqedoni/Kosove/Mali i Zi/Itali ka pas ndryshime/pastrime te ndryshme...
      E Tata thuhet se BABA eshte fjal musliman kurse tata esht fjal per babain para se me konvertu ne fejen islame

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +1

      @@2DDigital Are you proclaiming Tata was used prior to the Islamic conversion? Montenegrins use Tata. Does that make them more genuine?

    • @2DDigital
      @2DDigital 4 роки тому

      @@australiaprisonisland9156 No. But some words were and are still connected with kind of religion.

    • @2DDigital
      @2DDigital 4 роки тому +2

      @Ilirian Dedvukaj po qashtu si po thu ti eshte. Se pershembull Ataturk... Ata = Tata i Turkve... problemi nuk eshte qe sllavet e kan ba per veti, por shqiptart nuk e njohin historine e vete

  • @pamelashehu
    @pamelashehu 4 роки тому +30

    Makes me emotional to learn about the Arbëresh and hear that they’ve retained our language for so long!

  • @ismetmeta7400
    @ismetmeta7400 4 роки тому +781

    The arberesh language is just Albanian without those Turkish words.

    • @alb0zfinest
      @alb0zfinest 4 роки тому +77

      There are Turkish loanwords in Arbereshe lmao. Arbereshe hasn’t been isolated for those 500 years, Arbereshe had contact with other Albanian speakers who immigrated to Italy and who in turn influenced Arbereshe. And more than that, they have Italian loanwords, so it’s a tradeoff at best.

    • @ismetmeta7400
      @ismetmeta7400 4 роки тому +43

      @@alb0zfinest yeah but the authentic arberesh does not have those Turkish loanwords

    • @ismetmeta7400
      @ismetmeta7400 4 роки тому +14

      They use those Turkish words when they adapt the modern Albanian language.

    • @user-zv7yb4yp9g
      @user-zv7yb4yp9g 4 роки тому +33

      @@ismetmeta7400 the authentic Albanian doesn’t have those words either

    • @mahirhaxhiu7846
      @mahirhaxhiu7846 4 роки тому +7

      @@alb0zfinest but it has far less Turkish words. Not comparable

  • @FoodBuddyNow
    @FoodBuddyNow 4 роки тому +74

    I am Macedonian who learns Albanian language. It's hard but beautiful and interesting at the same time, I love it. Cheers to positive energy and learning new things.

    • @S18st33
      @S18st33 3 роки тому +8

      🇦🇱❤️🇲🇰

    • @FlamursHipHopTv
      @FlamursHipHopTv 3 роки тому +1

      Fala ti mnogu,i jas sum albanec sredno uciliste zavrsiv na makedonski jazik,go sakam vasiot jazik i ne mi smeta nisto,te pozdravuvam od svajcaria ❤️🇦🇱🇲🇰🇨🇭❤️

    • @sweetestaphrodite
      @sweetestaphrodite 3 роки тому +1

      Good luck with your studying!!

    • @puljano
      @puljano 3 роки тому +3

      @@FlamursHipHopTv im from slovenia and i understand 100% what you write

    • @banzaaiiiii
      @banzaaiiiii 2 роки тому +1

      we can also pick up slavic languages very quickly tbh if put effort

  • @erhanaksu5160
    @erhanaksu5160 4 роки тому +94

    Martin seems super cool and knowledgeable, will definitely have to check his book out. He should feature on the channel again if possible 😁

    •  4 роки тому +15

      thank you

    • @Skerdy
      @Skerdy 4 роки тому +1

      @ Thank you, man, for me as Albanian, it is so cool to hear from one of our brothers that still speaks the language.
      "Faleminderit" (thank you) btw, can be broken into "falem" (to pray, or to show respect) and "nderit" (from "nder": honour)...
      So when I say faleminderit, I am literally saying "I respect the honour you have shown" or more simply "I pray (I offer prise) to your honour".
      Or it can be traslated as: "Let's both pray that there is honour".
      Either way, I really love that word!

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому

      @@Skerdy Martin's genes according to him are Franco Norman.

    • @sheep.herder
      @sheep.herder 4 роки тому

      @@Skerdyfal-e-me-nder 🇦🇱👐

    • @sheep.herder
      @sheep.herder 4 роки тому

      @ subbed you bro

  • @danagrace3911
    @danagrace3911 4 роки тому +638

    Sorry, but the Albanian guy lacks a lot in knowing Albanian language at large. For me, the Albanian words that the Arberesh guy said were well-known words from both Albanian dialects north and south( gege and toske)
    You got to have someone who has a broader knowledge of Albanian language for this type of thing.
    Good try though😊😊

    •  4 роки тому +17

      Indeed

    • @MrFromAlbania
      @MrFromAlbania 4 роки тому +15

      Agree!

    • @elvis8974
      @elvis8974 4 роки тому +11

      Well said, Dana

    • @renosdr5251
      @renosdr5251 4 роки тому +5

      Yeap it does words differ in albanian but even I that have grow up in other country understand more words can be that he can't see the words like we se them in the screen 😜

    • @eduartdelli5897
      @eduartdelli5897 4 роки тому +27

      Without trying to disrespect the guy from Albania but he wasn’t that knowledgeable about the history and the words ....anyway great video the point is made clear..!

  • @janellahgrace2827
    @janellahgrace2827 4 роки тому +138

    I'm a filipina, and my boyfriend is albanian, I love the Albanian languge🇦🇱 Love from Philippines 🇵🇭

    • @politicallyincorrect2564
      @politicallyincorrect2564 4 роки тому +9

      Are there albanian in Philippines??? Da f..ck

    • @janellahgrace2827
      @janellahgrace2827 4 роки тому +9

      @@politicallyincorrect2564 for now we're not together yet, I'm working in middle East and he's in albania

    • @politicallyincorrect2564
      @politicallyincorrect2564 4 роки тому +2

      @@janellahgrace2827 did you guys met online? Sorry for asking personal questions, I am just curious.

    • @janellahgrace2827
      @janellahgrace2827 4 роки тому +4

      No it's ok, there is nothing wrong with asking,
      Yup we met online 🙂

    • @politicallyincorrect2564
      @politicallyincorrect2564 4 роки тому +5

      @@janellahgrace2827 aaa ok, nice. I hope you be together one day in Albania.

  • @robertomoccia8305
    @robertomoccia8305 4 роки тому +54

    very interesting.. i am happy that in italy could prosper and survive such a community of ancient Albanian community. I have many albanian friends and they always been loyal, friendly, protective and really generous with me. Viva l'Italia e L' Albania. Still in debt for your kind help with doctors during the first epidemic that made iTALY suffer so much. We wil never forget your marvellous heldpdear albanian friends

    • @luken1843
      @luken1843 4 роки тому +7

      Uno dei commenti più belli che abbia letto sotto a questo video, siamo tutti fratelli 🇮🇹 ❤️ 🇦🇱

    • @nartgerdovci2358
      @nartgerdovci2358 4 роки тому +5

      Love from Kosovo, the heart of Albania!🇦🇱🇮🇹

    • @italiangirl231
      @italiangirl231 4 роки тому

      🇮🇹🇦🇱

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому +3

      Greeting from Albos from Kosove

    • @Drgezimdauti
      @Drgezimdauti 3 роки тому

      Hey thanks for occupying us in 1939 guys ;) :D

  • @lmatt88
    @lmatt88 4 роки тому +40

    Greetings from Argentina! My dad was born here but his family is from Greci Campania Italy, the only Arbëreshë town in Campania region. Always wanted to learn more about his dialect but it's very unique and he can't speak it he can only understand it while spoken.

    • @newreast3904
      @newreast3904 3 роки тому

      i was wondering about smg.
      there is a place with double name in southern italy, maybe in sicilia.Campo dei greci, but i have heard it as campo dei albanesi too.johnny Bellushi's family was from there.is that the one you talk about?or is it lower down in italy?
      it is interesting how the place is called greci but arberesh people are there, and how it's the only place with such folk in the area.
      i have heard that the arberesh of south italy left greece to go there , since magna grecia was the place they'd feel more at home, since the turkoalbanians were after them and left to escape the massacres.
      can u enlighten me in some way?
      cheers from greece.u got to know, the whole world likes argentina, but we do a little bit more;)
      neapolis-diegito...there is a bond u see.

    • @newreast3904
      @newreast3904 3 роки тому +1

      just checked.piana dei greci!!!!changed to piana deglii albanesi in 1941, for OBVIOUS reasons...sicilia...

    • @newreast3904
      @newreast3904 3 роки тому

      katundi!

    • @dominthem
      @dominthem 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@newreast3904 Actually , you're right, it was changed. For so long it was called "Piana dei greci" because they arrived there from Greece and when the state administration realised they weren't greeks then they changed the name. Yes, for OBVIOUS reason. As for the name "turkalbanians" you've used, keep it for yourself because there are no people called like that.They are there for almost 500 hundred years more or less and trying to explain their arrival with the "Albanian masacres" against them , being themselves Albanians is not at all coherent. As would say a Spanish speaker: "esto no tiene ni pies ni cabeza". Grow up and when you do it, try to let aside your nationalistic crap.

    • @newreast3904
      @newreast3904 3 роки тому +2

      they realised that they were not greeks, 500 years later, just at the time and date where mussolini tried to invade greece...how thoughtful...better late than never.

  • @mikeltopuzi1223
    @mikeltopuzi1223 3 роки тому +29

    I'm from South Albania and I understand 100% the Arberesh dialect: my grandmother spoke the exact same language :

    • @danielcomani
      @danielcomani 3 місяці тому

      That's because the Arbëreshë are Tosks.
      Arbëreshët janë nga Shqipëria e Jugut.

  • @SkajN123
    @SkajN123 4 роки тому +93

    Similar to Arvanitika in Greece. I speak it very well and understand both of them in most part.

    • @marcoluppo5783
      @marcoluppo5783 4 роки тому +1

      Nice ;)

    •  4 роки тому +15

      @Albion Kastrioti yeah the oldest. We have origins from Myzeqeja. Our founders were the Muzaka family.

    • @cufil7011
      @cufil7011 3 роки тому +23

      Because your blood is Arbëresh but you are called Arvanit në Greqi, Arbëreshet ne Itali, Arbanasi ne Kroaci, Albanian neper Bote, Shqiptar ne Shqiperi e Kosove.
      Te gjithe jemi te njejt Arbëresh por Armiqt na ndan nga lindja e veri , jugu e perendimi sepse jemi Autokton dhe kemi gjuhen te paster dhe me te vjeter në Evrop.
      Të gjithë na kan zilin për Historin, Gjuhën dhe Trojet tona që dikur jan shtrier nga Dalmacia deri ne Janine nga Nishi deri Bitola e nga Deti i zi ne Adrkatik nga Mesdheu tek Deti Egje
      Si ajo kënga " nga njerin detë në tjetrin detë isha Zot vet, kur fushe, malet perendia i beri une ktu isha dhe ktu do jem deri mali e fusha behet hij perseri.

    • @illyrianet5884
      @illyrianet5884 3 роки тому +2

      you are Albanian assimiled wirh greek 😞

    •  3 роки тому +7

      @@illyrianet5884 this is called cultures in contact and language contact. After hundreds of years it's nothing to do with assimilation

  • @Dnmrsl
    @Dnmrsl 4 роки тому +264

    ky arbresh po e fol dialektin geg , po i perdor fjalt geg dhe ma paster po e din shqipen se sa ky shqiptari 😂😂😂

    • @tequila____9947
      @tequila____9947 4 роки тому +22

      Nuk eshte se e flet me paster eshte me shume ceshtje dialekti,por ky qypi dika vetem dialektin tosk.shoqe ne vlore perdoret dhe im shoqe ose bashkeshorte ose nuse

    • @ketjonamolla9749
      @ketjonamolla9749 4 роки тому

      Nese vjen ne shqiperi me ate gege ate djale se merr vesh njeri nuk e quaj gjuhe shqipe sepse askush nuk perdor me ato fjale prej kohesh dhe jan pa kuptim fare

    • @tequila____9947
      @tequila____9947 4 роки тому +20

      @@ketjonamolla9749 e ke shume gabim,nqs pyet kosovaret ose pjesen e veriut te shqiperis ata e kuptojne arbereshin dhe une gjithashtu dhe pse nga pjesa jugore e kuptoja thelbin

    • @thebuilder5770
      @thebuilder5770 4 роки тому +7

      @@ketjonamolla9749 Dmth ti thua qe ne Shqiperi te perdorim fjalet e huazuara nga italishtja dhe anglishtja sic jane: miser, domate, patate etj dhe jo Kollomoç, Mollatarta dhe Kertolla qe jane shqip. Ti po hedh poshte edhe librin e Giussepe Catapano Tat parlava albanese.

    • @yougottstomoveon
      @yougottstomoveon 4 роки тому +1

      @@tequila____9947 Hahahaha “qypi”...po mir ja qellove 😂😂😂

  • @fisnikajredini2885
    @fisnikajredini2885 4 роки тому +25

    As an Albanian from North Macedonia i found that we are using more words from the Arberesh. But every word said is well known in Albanians expect for the money word.

    • @mask9287
      @mask9287 3 роки тому +2

      me kane rastisur ne dore dokumenta te vjetra dhe kur jepej vlera per nje toke prsh shkruhej: Vlera 6000 granet ....arbereshi flet ne gegnisht kurse ky djali tj toskerisht

  • @action_bronson__2326
    @action_bronson__2326 4 роки тому +211

    Some of the words in arberesh actually remind of the albanian spoken in kosovo

    • @valdringashi5858
      @valdringashi5858 4 роки тому +6

      Edhe mu njejt

    • @johntitor9282
      @johntitor9282 4 роки тому +4

      i think it's because the15th century albanian migrants were Malsors, which both gheg and some tosk dialects descended from.

    • @ronukaj8968
      @ronukaj8968 4 роки тому +5

      I've never heard "kryt" being used outside Geg areas though. Arbereshet could originally be from Shkodra if you think about it, since the Venecians controlled that area before and during the Ottoman-Albanian wars. Maybe they fled along with the Venecians after their defeat in the late 15th century?

    • @Fudgeballs88
      @Fudgeballs88 4 роки тому +5

      Arberesh originates from southern Albania so it's a tosk dialect

    • @bessabesse2855
      @bessabesse2855 4 роки тому

      @olsi pajo no lol

  • @rauðaz
    @rauðaz 4 роки тому +132

    He forgot to say that the father in Albanian is also called "atë", which is a more formal way to say it.

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +14

      We Aromanians also say "ate", sometimes

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +4

      @olsi pajo
      Indeeed, brother
      We're the last ones

    • @kilipaki87oritahiti
      @kilipaki87oritahiti 4 роки тому +5

      Ate in “my” language means “older sister”😝 Do you pronounce the -ë or is it silent as in - shumë?

    • @rauðaz
      @rauðaz 4 роки тому +5

      @@kilipaki87oritahiti ë is a schwa but at the end of the word is always silent, but it sometimes depends on the dialect.

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +2

      @@kilipaki87oritahiti
      I heard Albanian Aromanians pronounce it like in Albanian

  • @Parcha-wu5jb
    @Parcha-wu5jb 3 роки тому +55

    I am greek and there are arbereshe in greece too. They are called arvanites. I know some albanian from friends and I plan on taking courses in albanian. Very interesting video bahador.

    • @milotfokusi2124
      @milotfokusi2124 2 роки тому +1

      Respect

    • @benny2499
      @benny2499 2 роки тому

      Είσαι Αρβανίτης αδερφέ?

    • @Parcha-wu5jb
      @Parcha-wu5jb 2 роки тому +2

      @@benny2499 οχι φιλε. Ελληνας

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 2 роки тому

      Respect my dear friend .

    • @gonter875
      @gonter875 Рік тому

      OK but the guy in the Video is and look like a turk .... turkic blood like mine .... NE MUTLU TÜRLKÜM DIYENE ... shorttly we will come to Albania ..

  • @MKokalari
    @MKokalari 4 роки тому +10

    You guys made my day! This is so cool that the language is still alive in the Arberesh communities. Faleminderit.

  • @c.kiousis3663
    @c.kiousis3663 4 роки тому +106

    Greetings to all Balkans from Greece. Respect to all people no matter where they come from.

    • @adfadgsdgsdg2432
      @adfadgsdgsdg2432 4 роки тому +7

      Para is the turkish word for money...not the original albanian word...

    • @c.kiousis3663
      @c.kiousis3663 4 роки тому +4

      @@adfadgsdgsdg2432 it must be Turkish, we use it too although rarely.

    • @FlamursHipHopTv
      @FlamursHipHopTv 3 роки тому

      Pirdhu ropt e mutit

    • @milstween7998
      @milstween7998 3 роки тому

      @@adfadgsdgsdg2432 Albanian are turk too

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch 3 роки тому

      @@milstween7998 no

  • @aagrafio
    @aagrafio 3 роки тому +6

    The international UA-cam audience was anxiously expecting that video for years. Thank you guys.

    •  3 роки тому +2

      the fact is this is literally the ONLY video about this subject

    • @pablorumoroso1959
      @pablorumoroso1959 3 роки тому

      same here, been waiting for this for ages

  • @carlofittipaldi9608
    @carlofittipaldi9608 4 роки тому +117

    Great video. Those are the United States of Albania :-)
    I'm from south Italy and near my village there are San Paolo Albanese and San Costantino Albanese, they speak Arbëreshë and in my dialect there are words borrowed from them.
    Thank you for the video!

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +9

      Hi Carlo, the current leader of the Australian Labour party is Anthony Albanese. If he wins the next election he could be the Prime Minister of Australia.

    • @djali1981
      @djali1981 4 роки тому +1

      Ciao Carlo, io sono una albanese vivo a Firenze da 18 anni. Spero di riuscire a scendere giu in questa vita, a sentire la vostra linguae e studiare le differenze da amante di lingue e dialetti

    • @carlofittipaldi9608
      @carlofittipaldi9608 4 роки тому +5

      Miremengjes djali1981!
      Sicuramente potrai incontrare qualche Arbëreshë anche in Toscana. Sono tutti dei grandi viaggiatori. Mirupafshim 🙂

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому

      @Marco R This is the gentleman I'm referencing.
      ua-cam.com/video/tDOvW5itY6Y/v-deo.html

    • @micheleabate146
      @micheleabate146 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@australiaprisonisland9156 Having Albanese as surname, which means Albanian in Italian, doesn't necessarily imply the surname bearer is of at least partial Arbëreshë heritage.
      De facto the Italians referred to Arbëreshë people until recent time as Greci (Greeks), as most of them fled to Italy from the peninsula named Peloponnese. Morea which is the old name of this territory who today belongs to Greece it's still used among Arbëreshë.
      Tedesco (German), Russo (Russian), Greco (Greek) , Polacco (Polish), .Spagnolo (Spaniard), Francese (French), Bulgaro (Bulgarian), Ungherese (Hungarian) are others italian surnames referring to nationalities which in uttermost cases were chosen deliberately by the bearer during the italian Risorgimento.

  • @whatdidido3838
    @whatdidido3838 4 роки тому +96

    Klajdi needs to know little bit more of the history and Albanian language ( cuz we have two dialects) and don’t be shy to be a proud Albanian in front of the world 🌍

    • @Drilaaaa1912
      @Drilaaaa1912 4 роки тому +12

      exactly bro ky tipi Klajdi qenka teper i paditur

    • @whatdidido3838
      @whatdidido3838 4 роки тому +9

      @@Drilaaaa1912 eshte shum djalosh, edhe i menqur eshte Por vetem se ka nevoj te lexoj pak me teper per vendin ton historin ton dhe te ndihet krenar me gjith shqiptaret anemban trojeve shqiptare 🇽🇰🇲🇰🇦🇱🇲🇪
      The Illyrian peninsula

    • @eaglesland8093
      @eaglesland8093 4 роки тому +1

      Jam dakord 👍

    • @edjunior4999
      @edjunior4999 4 роки тому +1

      I agree!

    • @lanababy8977
      @lanababy8977 4 роки тому +1

      @@Drilaaaa1912 Nuk eshte i paditur po ka pordhe e do te beje si i jashtem sikur nk di shum per shqiperine

  • @eurech
    @eurech 4 роки тому +150

    I am from Kosovo and Martin's dialect sounds much closer to mine.

    • @anxhelibegalli5529
      @anxhelibegalli5529 3 роки тому +9

      Cause arberesh (of italy) and arvanites (of greece) are mostly northen albanians who went to morea (modern greece ) and lived there than a part of them went to italy

    • @sm3675
      @sm3675 3 роки тому

      @@ME-gp7wc he was most likely living outside or spend some time outside (Gurbet).

    • @7mad211
      @7mad211 3 роки тому +1

      is there standard albanian?

    • @commentogiusto7952
      @commentogiusto7952 2 роки тому

      Pse ishin ortodoks pse muzika fisionomia toske

    • @suintilasuinti3831
      @suintilasuinti3831 2 роки тому

      Arbereshet jane toske ore ca leshin thoni ,ska pas geg ne ate kohe

  • @fghhjuuuy
    @fghhjuuuy 4 роки тому +165

    Për të ardhur keq, Klajdi qenka fare i paditur. As që ia ka idenë gjuhës dhe historisë.

    • @uneti463
      @uneti463 4 роки тому +12

      aspak!!! duhet te flas dikush nga Kosova, si rasti me ‘krije’ ne Kosove eshte Kry, kryt, kret, kres.

    • @figliodellestelle22
      @figliodellestelle22 4 роки тому +18

      @@uneti463 jo patjetër duhet të jetë dikush nga Kosova. Edhe në Shqipëri përdorim fjalë si kry/kryt/krit, tata/ati ose fjalën zbrazët/zbrazëtirë

    • @m200cheytac5
      @m200cheytac5 4 роки тому +15

      @@uneti463 Nuk eshte puna nga kosova. Se nuk e flisni me mire ju se te tjeret. Mos na cani ...... kot. Ky tipi eshte si ne gjum. Eshte rrot ........ Nuk e di si e kane zgjedhur ate po eshte rrot ....... Nuk di as te komunikoj . Kushdo do e kuptonte. Nuk ka asgje per ndonje dije te madhe. Eshte fjalori qe shqiptaret kudo qe jane e perdorin perdit. Po ky as ja ka iden fare.

    • @marcoluppo5783
      @marcoluppo5783 4 роки тому +9

      @@m200cheytac5 hahaha qetësohu o mik se nuk është video shkencore.
      Pastaj Klajd është shqiptaro-kanadez nuk është aq i pregatitur në gjuhën shqipe. Thjesht çfarë ka mësuar në shtëpi nga prindërit.

    • @littlesticiousm.s.6080
      @littlesticiousm.s.6080 4 роки тому +10

      @@marcoluppo5783 atëherë ç'punë ka ne nje video me titull e qëllim të tillë. Aq më tepër kur per turp nuk ditka as kush qenkan arbëreshët

  • @mahirhaxhiu7846
    @mahirhaxhiu7846 4 роки тому +9

    Wow! I learned a lot from this video. I'm impressed with Martin and his knowledge. It was great seeing Klajd again after so long.

  • @trazhgimgosturani6232
    @trazhgimgosturani6232 4 роки тому +56

    I understood everything that the Arberesh said . I dont know what this Albanian guy is thinking .

    • @q_rkmghow7083
      @q_rkmghow7083 3 роки тому +5

      Ky do jetë një koqe tosku injorant. Jam vetë tosk dhe e them pa problem se ka plotë toskë që mendojnë se gjuha e sotme standarde përfaqëson shqipen e vërtetë, të vjetër, origjinale, gjë që nuk është e vërtetë.

    • @mikeltopuzi1223
      @mikeltopuzi1223 3 роки тому +4

      Edhe une e kuptoj shume mire .por ky djali se di shqipen mire ska mundesi ndryshe ?

    • @skenderbegshala3247
      @skenderbegshala3247 3 роки тому

      @@q_rkmghow7083 po gjuha standarde vjen nga toskerishtja

    • @zalaegerszeg9527
      @zalaegerszeg9527 3 роки тому

      Gheg dialect is close to Arberesh.

    • @chuckytehboy6168
      @chuckytehboy6168 3 роки тому +1

      @@skenderbegshala3247 gabim? Gjuha shqipe a atëhershme bazohet nga Gegërishtja. Mos ia fut kot. Jam vetë nga Jugu dhe flas Toskërishten pot Gjuha shqipe e pastër vjen nga Dialekti Geg. Është e vërtetuar.

  • @emj7218
    @emj7218 4 роки тому +23

    Im a middle way between an arberesh and an albanian... im Albanian born in Italy :)
    Greetings to my vëllezerit arberesh, albanian!

  • @galgar5660
    @galgar5660 4 роки тому +117

    Last summer I visited a little town in Basilicata called San Costantino Albanese (Shën Kostandini i Arbëreshëvet in arbëresh) and there
    was an arbëresh festival. They made folk dances and songs and in the evening they cooked traditional arbëresh dishes. It was very interesting.

    • @67claudius
      @67claudius 4 роки тому +3

      @La bocca della verità Democracy is not the problem in Italia, but the idiots who represent it.

    • @jecko980
      @jecko980 4 роки тому +5

      We do that festival every summer in San Costantino, to celebrate our Albanian origins

    • @galgar5660
      @galgar5660 4 роки тому +1

      @@jecko980 oh cool! I didn't know you make it every year. I'll come back for sure then

    • @jecko980
      @jecko980 4 роки тому +1

      Ottimo, come penso tu possa immaginare d'estate tornano tutti quelli che sono emigrati in altre città d'Italia, solitamente nelle 2 settimane di ferragosto si fanno questi eventi. Il culmine è la Madonna della Conserva, la terza domenica di agosto si sale nella località Acquafredda dove per 2 giorni si festeggia, si mangia e si balla tutti assieme e solitamente i più giovani dormono in tenda continuando la festa per tutta la notte

    • @galgar5660
      @galgar5660 4 роки тому

      @@jecko980 io di solito passo sempre nel paese per andare ad Alessandria del Carretto , che è un posto che amo molto. Allora la prossima volta farò coincidere la visita ad Alessandria con quella al festival. Grazie per le informazioni.

  • @sabian126
    @sabian126 4 роки тому +16

    Some words mr klajdi didn’t pick up so much on, lots have also probably mentioned them down in the comments.
    3:25 shpi - very much used all over, my dialect never really uses the formal version.
    5:44 - krye is used up north, rare to hear koka up there..
    13:50 - down in the south there is a word that is very similar y’tatë/ y’t ate or t’tatë I’m sure this is also used in the north
    19:10 lali - is still used it may have lost its original meaning although very much spoken
    Mëma - still used in the south may be said closer to mama.

    • @reja_sh
      @reja_sh 4 роки тому +4

      "Shoq" too, we say in albanian "i shoqi" meaning the husband and "e shoqja" meaning the wife

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому

      19:10 is very common we say to all laj + name who are elder

  • @eldoooradoful
    @eldoooradoful 4 роки тому +73

    Shërben is literally serving

    • @erida5
      @erida5 4 роки тому +2

      He is doing my heading....

    • @edjunior4999
      @edjunior4999 4 роки тому

      yes, it kind of is working

    •  4 роки тому

      @@erida5 ?

    • @kleviscomani6434
      @kleviscomani6434 3 роки тому

      In arberesh albannian it means work (I think)

  • @connorgioiafigliu
    @connorgioiafigliu 4 роки тому +22

    Arbëreshë has always fascinated me. I can't wait to visit an Arbëreshë town!

  • @blood6683
    @blood6683 4 роки тому +36

    The guy on the right should make more effort. Shoq is husband in Arberesh in Albanian as well: IE. "Im shoq"

    • @q_rkmghow7083
      @q_rkmghow7083 3 роки тому +4

      This guy is on of those global emancipated people who dont even know their language but want to speak English better than an Englishman.

    • @streettravelxxi
      @streettravelxxi 3 роки тому

      He’s just a funny guy I don’t think he’s a language expert lol

    • @krktfisthis
      @krktfisthis 3 роки тому

      OMG you're right!! I am a Balkan Albanian and I can relate more to the guy from Tirana, but I could understand more than him as far as Arbëresh is concerned.
      However, "im shok/i shoqi/im shoqe/e shoqja" is not the first thing that comes to your mind when you listen to the word shok. At least it didn't come to my mind. But yes, we use it with that meaning as well.

  • @idon2011ek
    @idon2011ek 4 роки тому +25

    Si kosovar une shumicen e fjalve i kuptova. Babxhyshi im gjithmon i ka pyet musafirin si e ke shoqen per nuse e shum fjal edhe sot i perdorum ne familje. Shum video e mir

  • @pepperino-hotterino
    @pepperino-hotterino 4 роки тому +237

    actually "shpi" is still used in the Gheg Albanian dialekt so its totally equal to Arbereshe. "Krye" in Gheg is also "krye", "shprazet" also means empty in Gheg and seems closer to mbrazet of Arbreshe , "Ati" an old word for father also seems closer to "tata", so in my opinion Arbreshe seems closer to Ghegh dialekt then Tosk
    thank you for this awesome video, i really learned alot and wish to meet an Arbreshe once :)

    • @user-rd2tp5cz9f
      @user-rd2tp5cz9f 4 роки тому +14

      I think that is because Gheg is the original albanian dialect that we all talked before. So when the arberesh went to Italy they still remained the same dialect meanwhile southern albania gradually switched to tosk in some way. I’m not saying this is how it is cause I don’t know but it would make sense

    • @pepperino-hotterino
      @pepperino-hotterino 4 роки тому +3

      @olsi pajo well i had no problem understanding almost all words he said in arbresh even tho i know only gheg.

    • @Albanez39
      @Albanez39 4 роки тому +13

      Even in the South we say Shpia. It's not just a Northern or Middle Albanian dialect word, it's a shortened version of Shtepia.

    • @markgjidoda2745
      @markgjidoda2745 4 роки тому +7

      This is super interesting,
      We left Kosovë in 1969 and I use a lot of words like the Arberesh guy, and also use words the Tirana guy uses.
      I can speak Albanian pretty good (or so I’m told) thanks to my parents. I can’t really read or write it. I also don’t understand TV shows or movies and news. I feel like there really are multi dialects based on region.
      This is really enlightening.
      BREAD & CHEESE 👍.

    • @arold4928
      @arold4928 4 роки тому +1

      I thought tosk would be closer cause most of the arberesh that left they left from Morea modern day peleponesse Greece ?

  • @adilhoxha5443
    @adilhoxha5443 4 роки тому +20

    This was super interesting. Martin unlocked a memory for me when I was little I would call my oldest cousin lali and I completely forgot about that.

  • @Livingtree32
    @Livingtree32 4 роки тому +39

    I'm a German who knows maybe 20 words in Albanian, but I realized that the Arberesh words were sometimes closer to Albanian from Kosovo (like shpi for example)

    • @angielilo8514
      @angielilo8514 4 роки тому +4

      Shpi is also Albanian from albania 😂

    • @Livingtree32
      @Livingtree32 4 роки тому +3

      @@angielilo8514 Ah ok. Then why does the Albanian in the video not know 😂😂😂

    • @angielilo8514
      @angielilo8514 4 роки тому

      @@Livingtree32 ich find schon ziemlich lustig, dass du dich scheinbar als experte darstellst, weil du 20 albanische Wörter kennst 😂 lächerlich. Ich bin selbst Albanerin und das Wort Wird in Albanien genauso verwendet. Umgangssprachlich. Frag also nicht so ironisch wenn du nicht in der Position bist. Meine fresse

    • @Livingtree32
      @Livingtree32 4 роки тому +3

      @@angielilo8514 Häh, mach ich doch gar nicht. Ich hab es eher lustig gefunden, dass er es nicht wusste. Ich hab dir sofort geglaubt, dass es so ist, wie du oben geschrieben hast. Chill mal bisschen.

    • @angielilo8514
      @angielilo8514 4 роки тому

      @@Livingtree32 gut dann tut es mir leid dass ich dich falsch verstanden hab. Ist man wohl zu sehr im Angriffsmodus. Sorry . Das Video ist generell etwas komisch gestaltet also weiß auch nicht ...

  • @RushitTahiri
    @RushitTahiri 4 роки тому +22

    Very interesting video! As an Albanian from Albania who speaks the Toske southern dialect I was surprised by how many words and phrases were exactly the same from Arberesh! For example the region were My family is from we still use “shoq” or “shoqe” or “shoqja” as meaning husband or wife and spouse. We also still use “at” or “tata” for father. And we mostly use “shpi” or “Shpija” for house. We also use “tengrenit” or “ ushqim” for food.

    • @agroncoku2881
      @agroncoku2881 4 роки тому +4

      No offends to Klajd but Martin needed to be infront of an albanian professor or somebody that has somehow studied the albanian language because for example i understood almost 100% what martin said but klajd maybe wasnt raised in the environment where that language was used and most probably his parents or grandparents would understand martin 100%

    • @agroncoku2881
      @agroncoku2881 4 роки тому +2

      @olsi pajo jam verior o shok po besoj se si tosk si geg i kuptojme kto qe thote martini ngaqe jemi shqiptare 🤙

    • @agroncoku2881
      @agroncoku2881 4 роки тому +1

      @olsi pajo shum e vertet

    • @illyriumus2938
      @illyriumus2938 4 роки тому

      @olsi pajo Dialektet brenda shqiperise jane diskriminuar me shume sesa ndryshuar. Qe kur mori Baca Enver ne dore kongresin e drejtshkrimit te gjuhes Shqipe, as Fishta dhe as Migjeni nuk trajtoheshin me ne letersi me shume sesa 2 ore mesim ne shkolle te mesme. Perdhosje gjuhe shkurt!

    • @Mitro-mitrovicaMitrovina
      @Mitro-mitrovicaMitrovina 6 місяців тому +1

      Shoku means friend who is male in albanian
      Shoqe/ shoqja - friend who is female
      Shoqnija- the friends

  • @excelcsllc
    @excelcsllc 4 роки тому +11

    The Arberesh dialect is all original! Kudos to the Arberesh brother! Awesome job!

  • @AllAroundKnowledge
    @AllAroundKnowledge 3 роки тому +4

    This was a great video. Happened upon it by accident. As an Albanian from Malësi e Madhe, I could understand nearly everything from Martin. Some words we use that Klajd mentioned as well. Great job keeping the language and etymology going.

  • @timojarun7830
    @timojarun7830 4 роки тому +88

    In Croatia they are called Arbanasi (Arbëreshi) i guess.

    • @libofsharaku
      @libofsharaku 4 роки тому +15

      Yes, in italy arberesh, in greece arvanite, in turkey arnovut.

    • @lucadev3890
      @lucadev3890 4 роки тому +3

      @@libofsharaku sempre chiamati albanesi

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +7

      Most of the migrants in Croatia were from Montenegrin villages just by the lake.

    • @1shpendi
      @1shpendi 4 роки тому +1

      @@australiaprisonisland9156 then they must speak my dialect since i was born in that area

    • @blackpaint9093
      @blackpaint9093 4 роки тому +1

      @@lucadev3890 intendono la minoranza storica insediatasi nel XV secoli in italia meridionale....
      Sempre stati e chiamati arbereshe, personalità famose arbereshe: Francesco Crispi, Antonio Gramsci, Bettino craxi(parzialmente griko e parzialmente arbereshe) e De Niro(albanese d'italia incredibilmente)

  • @myhyrijexhafa6179
    @myhyrijexhafa6179 4 роки тому +15

    I am from tirana Albania and I understand every word he says, I am surprised that they still speak the old language of tirana. Bravo

  • @yasminal-saadi6172
    @yasminal-saadi6172 3 роки тому +13

    I've never heard of Arbëresh before and I'm so amazed to see how a small community fled its home country and preserved its language so well for centuries! I've noticed that the Albanian in Albania has a lot of Turkish (Ottoman) influence (para, hala, teyze). Thank you, Bahador, for introducing these hidden linguistic gems :) Love from Iraq!

    •  3 роки тому +5

      We were expelled by the Turkish

    • @yasminal-saadi6172
      @yasminal-saadi6172 3 роки тому

      @ So the people were forcefully removed rather than them choosing to flee to Italy for safety?

    • @seyl717
      @seyl717 3 роки тому +4

      @@yasminal-saadi6172 Nah im pretty sure they chose to leave, never heard them being expelled.

    • @katerpese
      @katerpese Рік тому

      @@seyl717 The ones who migrated at that time after Ottomans took over were expelled. Not all but the stronghold of the Kastrioti were massacred, expelled and displaced. It was a revenge as this domain of all Albanian lands and people caused the Ottomans so much pain for decades and stood strong until the end. Urban centers and administration were replaced by peasantry from nearby who were more favorable to the ottomans. Towards the end of the resistance all of the Albanian families (except the Kastrioti) left the League as there was no hope in the cause and developed friendly relations with the ottomans. It was them who then ruled as vassals under occupation. Albanians who migrated early on were usually close affiliates of the Kastrioti. Not all Arberesh follow this path of migration though as some of them migrated from today's Greece.

    • @ayhankaracaoglu6845
      @ayhankaracaoglu6845 Рік тому +1

      @@katerpese Albanians /Arvanites are the natives of Mora peninsula and Athens as well. States level planned "Greek project of beginning 19th cent" designed GR as a New Greek land. But there were no people named Greek as they are extinct in history abt 2500 years ago. Orthodox Rums of mid and east Turkey transferred to GR territory after 1830s and they were made owner of land by west designed plans. Then these Rums heavily in doctrinated to be new Greeks acc to Greek project. Thats why they are most unsecure people in our area. Albanians oppressed and denied in their own land.

  • @Albanez39
    @Albanez39 4 роки тому +18

    In Albanian we also use "shoq" for husband, but in a very specific manner. When saying "her husband", we say "i shoqi". The same for mëmë or ëmë, "his mother" is "e ëma" and "motherland" is "mëmëdhe".

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому

      And atdheu we dont aay badheu
      At and tat is the same
      As we say
      Sha filanit meaning
      Shoqja filanit
      Meaning wif of filan

  • @saebica
    @saebica 4 роки тому +67

    Hi, Albanian brothers and you all
    I'm an Aromanian Romanian and we say "cusurini" for "cousins" too 🤣
    "Larg", in Romanian, it means "Large" and in Aromanian it can be used as "alargu", or we simply use "diparti" from the Romanian "departe", for "far"
    "Para" is from Turkish and in Romanian is "parale" and "pârats" in Aromanian
    "Animal" in Romanian is the same
    In Aromanian, Albanians are called "Arbineshi" and the country "Arbinâshia"
    Lale - Uncle in Aromanian
    "Fund" in Romanian is the "End" of our body too
    We say "Haristo" in Aromanian as "Thanks" and "Ti hâristusescu" "I'm thanking you"
    WE SHOULD DO AN AROMANIAN - ROMANIAN VIDEO!!!

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +5

      @@jeandellagjianni3548
      Since children they teach us the similaritied betweeen us, as we're the last ones, Pelasgians

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +2

      @@jeandellagjianni3548 amazing work

    • @b.h.6250
      @b.h.6250 4 роки тому +1

      I’d love to see a video about Aromanian. Let them compare it to Romanian, Greek and Albanian. I think most Aromanians originate or live in Albania, no?
      Oh, and maybe compare it to Slavic too

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому +8

      @@b.h.6250
      A comparisor between those languages, would be amazing but I'm not a Fârsherot(those who came from Albania), I'm the Greek side one. It'd still be nice.
      Most of them, in Romania, come either from Albania or Greece

    • @saebica
      @saebica 4 роки тому

      @@kosta2702
      Don't you use "Alargu"? :D
      That's nice, anyway
      Shall we keep in contact for future collaborations? I wanna write a book with a friend, so we need Aromanians.

  • @claudiabacikariqi5239
    @claudiabacikariqi5239 3 роки тому +3

    I really loved this video. Touched me for my origins. Thank you for it

  • @jozi385
    @jozi385 4 роки тому +48

    shoq is used in albanian too like "im shoq =my husband and ime shoqe=my wife"

    • @namesurname8652
      @namesurname8652 4 роки тому +6

      Ke shume te drejte ky jevgu qenka shume I besdisshem, nuk ben dot lidhjen e nje fjale si Motermeme qe dmth Teze.

    • @ClydeAlb
      @ClydeAlb 4 роки тому +4

      @@namesurname8652 jevgu thot😂😂 ate mendova dhe un se ca kishte t veshtir ajo ,teze esht turqisht

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому

      @@namesurname8652 duket ashkali , ne kshtu i thirrim.

  • @jeremyt.9909
    @jeremyt.9909 4 роки тому +8

    I've been subscribed for almost 2 years now and this is one of the most interesting videos I've seen on this channel so far. These relatively minor dialectical differences are so fascinating to me, and I'm really happy to see a section of the discussion specifically dedicated to false friends. I'd love to see similar content on this channel with other pluricentric languages (I remember similar videos like the one where Dari, Farsi, and Tajik speakers all got together, but if I recall correctly that one was focused on wider cultural traits). Great job, Bahador, Martin, and Klajd!

  • @fitoremiftari
    @fitoremiftari 4 роки тому +72

    I went to Calabria to learn more about Arbëreshë and the funniest word evolution to me was Kopile. To the Arbëreshë it means the most beautiful girl in the village. In today's Albanian it means bastard 😂

    • @JustMe-yy7uc
      @JustMe-yy7uc 4 роки тому +1

      Ne Kosove perdoret per te keq edhe per te mire.
      P.sh. ajo eshte kopile apo aj eshte kopil.
      E zoja/I zoti.

    • @samykiani944
      @samykiani944 4 роки тому +2

      It derives from the Greek word Κοπέλα (Kopela = girl).

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому

      Did you enjoy it there how was the experience iam aiming for the same

    • @blueant7988
      @blueant7988 4 роки тому +1

      @@JustMe-yy7uc edhe ne Shqipëri,
      varet më shumë nga mënyra si e thua.
      Por që në kuptim të parë është fëmijë i jashtëligjshëm.

    • @nebrad1800
      @nebrad1800 4 роки тому

      @@samykiani944 it’s the other way around κοπέλια

  • @Adrian-bc2cb
    @Adrian-bc2cb 4 роки тому +86

    Do one with ARVANITE and Arberesh!

    • @Apollonia93
      @Apollonia93 4 роки тому +22

      Yes this, please! Arvanitic is heavily influenced by Greek and a bit by Turkish, Arberesh by Sicilian and Italian. Sicilian, in turn has many Greek and Arabic roots. That would be so interesting.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      @Kristian Pepaj yesssss

    • @ILLYRIANW0LF
      @ILLYRIANW0LF 4 роки тому +19

      Arberesh Language in Greece "Arvanite "has been suppresed and destroyed by the greeks.

    • @petrosts9846
      @petrosts9846 4 роки тому +8

      @@ericm1016 Well, that's partially true. All kind of dialects are "supressed" in Greece in favor of standard modern Greek which is the greek dialect of north-eastern Peloponnese (where actually many Arvanites dwell). This happens in many countries in favor of the standard state language.
      In greek schools, pupils are being taught in standard modern Greek. Arvanitika dialect, other greek dialects (Tsakonian, Pontic, Cretan etc.), vlach dialects, slavic dialects of Macedonia, bulgarian dialects of Thrace are not taught in greek schools.
      However, Arvanites are not supressed. In many cases there were/are Arvanites who supressed other groups of people. You know, many of those who fought against the Ottomans in 1821 and the upperclass class (many shipowners ) of the Greek state that was founded in 1830 were Arvanites. The first President of Greece, Pavlos Kountouriotis, was Arvanite. The first dictator of Greece, Theodoros Pangalos, was Arvanite. The current archbishop of Greece, Ieronymos Liapis, is Arvanite as well. Also, many prime-ministers, ministers, scientists, artists etc. were/are Arvanites.
      Even the leader of the nazi criminal group Golden Dawn, Nikos Michaloliakos, who used to order attacks against non-Greeks and immigrants, is half Arvanite too.
      Noone is persecuted for speaking Arvanitika. In 1830, the standard language of communication in the Greek navy was Arvanitika and many admirals and navy officers were Arvanites.
      Here is a greek show on state tv channel ERT1, dedicated to Arvanite music, songs and dances: ua-cam.com/video/VYc3lMXOub4/v-deo.html
      PS: My mother was born and raised in an Arvanite village (she is partially Arvanite). She has told me stories of her classmates mocking or even cursing non-Arvanite teachers in Arvanitika. For example, the non-Arvanite English teacher would say in English "This is a book" and her classmates would laugh at her (in her face) saying in Arvanitika that "She is hungry. She asks for bread". Noone punished them.

    • @ericm1016
      @ericm1016 4 роки тому +1

      @@petrosts9846 ua-cam.com/video/9E0m5XXNanQ/v-deo.html
      Το αγαπημένο μου αρβανίτικο τραγούδι ♥️😉

  • @sandrodellisanti1139
    @sandrodellisanti1139 4 роки тому +6

    Very nice.. i'm half german, half italian, my father was originated from San Marzano di San Giuseppe in puglia, they're talking this too :) so please stay safe from Corona and many greetings from Brunswick in Germany, ciao a tutti.

  • @dontrombetti2706
    @dontrombetti2706 4 роки тому +31

    Bahador, you need to invite someone who actually speaks Albanian.

  • @sarahgjokutaj1989
    @sarahgjokutaj1989 4 роки тому +7

    I really enjoy this videos! I am albanian and i am really happye to see that they are having fun talking to each other.❤️

  • @bujorel
    @bujorel 4 роки тому +14

    haha i knew what "fund" meant - it's exactly the same (and it can mean the end of certain things too) in romanian! it also means cutting board - if you specify "wooden" or not - which is often the source of much hilarity. i always find it interesting how strangely similar albanian and romanian words are sometimes! loved the video, as i love all the videos on this channel ❤️

    • @bujorel
      @bujorel 4 роки тому +2

      @@jeandellagjianni3548 yes, thanks for the reference, i've heard some discussions of this before. i know for sure that every once in a while, when i look up the etymology of a romanian word that is pretty clearly not latin, not greek, turkish or slavic or hungarian or romani, which are the usual sources... it says it's from albanian, and usually the albanian word is exactly the same. but maybe with a slightly different meaning. yup "copil" in romanian just means "child" - in fact bastard is "copil ilegitim" (we also say "copil din flori" which means child [gotten] from flowers)... i wonder if there was a common source or if one language got it from the other. anyway super interesting!!

    • @b.h.6250
      @b.h.6250 4 роки тому +2

      @@jeandellagjianni3548 uhm, no? Albanians have been islamized, but not ottomanized. We did get a huge deal of culture from the Ottomans, however it doesn’t amount to 75%. Our language is less turkified than the Greek one. And we still hold a big deal of our own authentic culture.
      I think Klevis is right. Albanians are a mix of Greek, Illyrian and Thracian tribes that got almost latinized. I read that 90% of our vocabulary is latin in origin.
      On the other hand, Romanian are a mix of Thracian and Greek tribes (perhaps some Illyrian) that were completely latinized, but later also got a bigger mix of Slavic and Anatolian (not necessary Ottoman) in their DNA and language.

    • @googleuser3266
      @googleuser3266 4 роки тому

      @@jeandellagjianni3548 I have a question, when you said the way you sing it sounds Turkish or whatever, which way you meant? What kind of music specifically?
      Because only tallava might sound like it.
      Traditional Albanian folk music is unique and sounds nothing like what you said. So can you answer my question please, I'd like to know

  • @KushtrimiMalcis
    @KushtrimiMalcis 4 роки тому +18

    The Arberesh dialect has many, many similarities to Northern Albanian- Gegnisht. The guest from tirana Albania unfortunately is incompetent in the Albanian language. Many of the words Martin (Arberesh) used are still used by my region

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому +3

      Hmmm well there was only Gege at the time .

    • @albarmy1
      @albarmy1 3 роки тому

      Arbëreshe dialect is a tosk dialect variant you idiots. The similarities are because arbereshe preserved words from 500 years ago when both tosk and geg dialects were more similar to each other.

    • @danielcomani
      @danielcomani 3 місяці тому

      Arbëreshët flasin Toskërisht. Arbëreshët janë nga Shqipëria e Jugut.

  • @topsixxxgang7584
    @topsixxxgang7584 4 роки тому +66

    Klajd u never heard “E shoqja”. “I shoqi “, I can totally understand the arberesh guy. I am a Fierak(fier albania) whatever the arbwresh guy is talking I can understand. This is cool. And I believe all Albanians can too, but Klajd was raised in Canada so he can’t totally understand.

    • @Marubi2
      @Marubi2 4 роки тому +7

      Northern Albanian all say e shoqja/ i shoqi for husband /wife

    • @user-rd2tp5cz9f
      @user-rd2tp5cz9f 4 роки тому +6

      In kosovo we never say that but there were some other things that klajd didn’t get at all that I thought was normal for example kry which we also use for head, I’ve never heard koka used for head before though

    • @Marubi2
      @Marubi2 4 роки тому +1

      I met two arberesh and an guy from Albania. The arberesh asked me “Në ç’ora e sosni ?” (Në sa ora e mbaroni). The Albanian guy didn’t understand that but I did very easily. In Kosova “e sosni” means “you finish or spend something”.

    • @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax
      @ToxicVaccines_HivHoax 4 роки тому +7

      Klajdi didn't know that Albania was called "Arberi" in the middle ages.
      This clearly demonstrates that his knowledge of Albanian history and language is severely lacking.

    • @Marubi2
      @Marubi2 4 роки тому +3

      @@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax Yep, he’s actually just being idiotic.

  • @kolobara08
    @kolobara08 4 роки тому +35

    Greetings to my Albanians brother from Bosnia, this episode was amazing to watch 👍

  • @igordacunhaferreira5234
    @igordacunhaferreira5234 2 роки тому +17

    Mirëmëngjes ! Unë jam nga Brazili dhe mësoj shqip, unë nuk kuptoj shumë mirë por më pëlqen shumë si tingëllon gjuha shqipe. Gjuha shqipe është shumë e bukur dhe e këndshme megjithëse shumë e rëndë ... Një përqafim nga Brazili....

    • @DP-mz8fo
      @DP-mz8fo 2 роки тому

      bravo, shum mir po fol shqip

    • @igordacunhaferreira5234
      @igordacunhaferreira5234 2 роки тому +1

      @@DP-mz8fo Faleminderit miku im ... Nga jeni ju?

    • @DP-mz8fo
      @DP-mz8fo 2 роки тому

      @@igordacunhaferreira5234 une jam nga Deçani ne Kosovë🇽🇰🇦🇱na thuajne ‘tigrat e deçanit’🐅

    • @DP-mz8fo
      @DP-mz8fo 2 роки тому +1

      @@igordacunhaferreira5234 nga jeni ju? Brazili shum e madhe

    • @igordacunhaferreira5234
      @igordacunhaferreira5234 2 роки тому

      @@DP-mz8fo Mirëmëngjes miku im! Po, Brazil është i stërmadh. Brazili është i ndarë në 26 shtete (ose qarqe) dhe një Qark Federal (Distrito Federal). Unë banoj në Mato Grosso do Sul. Jardim është qyteti im. Qyteti im i vogël. Jardim ka - pak a shumë - 28.000 banorët. Sa shumë banorët ka qyteti juaj (Deçani)?

  • @radiant6573
    @radiant6573 4 роки тому +63

    We missed Klajd. It's so great to see him back.

    • @anxhelinadautllari2210
      @anxhelinadautllari2210 4 роки тому

      Arbereshi ketu ne vidio flet dialektin geg ndersa ky tjetri flet gjuhen letrare shqiptare

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому

      Tbh I find martin cooler , the other guy is just not cutting it .

    • @radiant6573
      @radiant6573 4 роки тому

      @@The3DProjects You must not have watched many videos on this channel then I take it? Klajd is awesome and he is part of their original crew.

    • @The3DProjects
      @The3DProjects 4 роки тому

      @@radiant6573 I did watch some vid with some serb...

    • @radiant6573
      @radiant6573 4 роки тому

      @@The3DProjects that's all you watched? I've watched all the videos Klajd is in. He's hands down the funniest guy on this channel!

  • @gledismurollari6009
    @gledismurollari6009 4 роки тому +28

    Actually the arbëresh guy is right about "shoqja=wife" and "shok=husband". Albanians will commonly refer to their wife or husband respectively as "ime shoqe/ e shoqja (my wife / the wife )" or "im shoq/ i shoqi (my husband/ the husband )". Other synonyms would be respectively "bashkëshorte" and "bashkëshort". ( "bashkë" in albanian means "together")
    And by the way, "nuse/nusja" is the word albanians use more frequently to "the bride", while "dhëndërr" is often called the groom. "Nuse" and "dhëndërr" are used even after some years after marriage, but not among old couples. So basically we can say the arberësh guy has right to call "nuse" the girlfriend (we can assume bride-to-be at medieval times).
    "Tata" is still used in some areas by meaning "father". Btw, a lot of albanians know the verses of a famous folk song (Tate tate du(a) këpucë... etc etc ).
    Anyway, I was really impressed by the similarities and i would like to thank all arbëresh for preserving and passing down to their children our beautiful, special and authentic language in such a pure way. 👋🏼👋🏼

    • @australiaprisonisland9156
      @australiaprisonisland9156 4 роки тому +2

      The Montenegrins use Tata for father and Mama for mother.

    • @albinh.3149
      @albinh.3149 4 роки тому

      @@australiaprisonisland9156 Tata is a indoeuropean word. It is very likely that Tata was predominantly used by the Albanians.
      Some might argue that Baba came predominantly in use after the turkish conquest.
      Baba is also of indoeuropean origin...

    • @MrTani42
      @MrTani42 4 роки тому

      Can't agree more;)

    • @gheorghebiolan5556
      @gheorghebiolan5556 4 роки тому +1

      And in Romanian husband is,, soț,, iar wife is ,,nevasta or soția,,

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому

      We use
      Sha Filanit
      Meaning
      Shoqia Filanit
      For Wife of filan

  • @keyshi6257
    @keyshi6257 4 роки тому +2

    Bravo, me ne fund dicka shume intresante te shikosh.
    Amaizing video

  • @Albanez39
    @Albanez39 4 роки тому +33

    Animal wasn't taken from an English textbook, but from the Italian language: Animale.

    • @valjetah
      @valjetah 4 роки тому +9

      You mean from latin,
      Animalis from anima that means breath or air and ālis which means something that grows. The new english have her roots in germanic language influenced by a mix of other languages like latin, french etc.
      So almost no other older language can actually have words taken from English (maybe just recently the slang words).

    • @Albanez39
      @Albanez39 4 роки тому +2

      @@valjetah That's what my father (Italian) told me when I was a kid when we were arguing if animals actually have a soul. But alis in this sense is just a suffix; Animalis means "living" or "something that is alive".
      Indeed, the English words originated from Latin. But Klajdi said that the Arbereshe word for Animal sounded like it was taken from an English text book...but it was clearly taken from Latin or Italian considering where the Arbereshe originate from. I guess he just didn't know the Italian word for Animal...
      As opposed to Latin, I believe they took it directly from early Italian...maybe from Vulgar Latin, which was the language spoken in Italy at the time of the Arbereshe migration.

    •  4 роки тому +5

      or directly from Latin, like many Albanian words, we never know

    •  4 роки тому

      my first thought! Amazing they couldn't think about it!!!!!!

    • @kapovlore1831
      @kapovlore1831 4 роки тому +1

      @@valjetah po ta marim fjalën animal dhe ta zbërthejmë në shqip në djalektin geg do të kuptojmë që fjala animal e ka prejardhjen shqipe !
      Përshëmbull (Animal) A NI MAL mua më duket sikur thotë (është një mal) edhe po ta vësh re fjala animal përdoret nga të huajtët edhe në drejtim të njerëzve kur dikush është trupmadhë edhe i fuqishëm dhe i thonë animal 😁 pra gjuhët e tjera janë formuar nga gjuha shqipe dhe shqipja është gjuha më e vjetër në botë pavarësishtë se janë munduar ta zhdukin nga qarkullimi por askush nuk ka mundur edhe askush nuk do mundë të zhdukë gjuhën që kanë folur perënditë 😁

  • @carinaneasebor9796
    @carinaneasebor9796 3 роки тому +4

    I love that Martin has such a good Albanian. Hats off to his family for preserving the language through generations 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @soniladervishi350
    @soniladervishi350 3 роки тому +2

    This was so interesting to watch! Thank you guys!!

  • @34egzoni
    @34egzoni 4 роки тому +77

    "Kryeministri" he has a point there 😂

    • @uneti463
      @uneti463 4 роки тому +19

      that was smart! u can tell he is educated in his Albanian! Arberesh of second genration British, impressive.

    • @2ermelinda2
      @2ermelinda2 4 роки тому +5

      Well krye ne shqip do te thot ne fillim i pari , ne krye te njerezve ne krye te listes etj, gjithashtu krye i themi dhe ne shqip perdorim koke dhe krye ,po me dhembin kryt , cme rrin mbi krye...so its not really surprising i guess

    • @abrahamlincoln856
      @abrahamlincoln856 4 роки тому +8

      Kokministri 😂

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому

      Krye serves aswell as top

    • @rey6253
      @rey6253 4 роки тому +4

      gjithe veriu i thote krye dhe jo koke. por normalisht koke eshte ne gjuhen standarte. cudi qe ky cuni nk e kuptoje fjalen krye

  • @lulikollariii
    @lulikollariii 4 роки тому +28

    Bravo cuna ❤️ albanian from Montenegro

  • @ardian3874
    @ardian3874 3 роки тому +16

    Arbreshet kane ruajtur gjuhen e vjeter , bravo .

  • @valjetah
    @valjetah 4 роки тому +43

    Well some old people use “e shoqja” and “i shoqi” for wife and husband in Kosovo at least.

    • @endcer4531
      @endcer4531 4 роки тому +9

      Its the standard in Southern Albania .

    • @Leo-gt1pr
      @Leo-gt1pr 4 роки тому

      Girlfrendja thirret shoqe ne kosove

    • @qamilselmani7003
      @qamilselmani7003 4 роки тому +1

      kjo ka veriu nfakt osht e shpesh edhe ma ne kumanov i thomi kshu

    • @eugenlazaj2147
      @eugenlazaj2147 4 роки тому +3

      Not only old people, and not only in Kosovo.
      I would even say it is a somewhat formal way of saying "husband" and "wife".

    • @ness-a29
      @ness-a29 4 роки тому

      South Albania uses it to at least in my family I've heard it a lot

  • @LiLa-po3mh
    @LiLa-po3mh 4 роки тому +51

    Arbereshe sounds more like Albanian spoken in Kosovo. You should definitely do the same thing with a gheg speaker. Would be much closer. But still very interesting!

    • @erdibulku6848
      @erdibulku6848 4 роки тому +9

      No it doesnt all those words he sai are used pretty much everywhere odk why Klajd dint recognize them. Also Arbereshe is classified by linguists as a Tosk dialect.

    • @googleuser3266
      @googleuser3266 4 роки тому +4

      Not really. What sounded like Albanian spoken in Kosovo here?
      Arbëreshe is Tosk Albanian, this is a linguistic fact.
      Do you say embri/zembra on Kosovo? No.
      The -mb sound is well preserved in Tosk Albanian. For these two words we sadly don't have the "b" in it, but for all other words we still have it, For example, Tosk Albanian : pëllumbi, mbaj, humb, llumb, mbys etc (in geg Albanian these words would be like : pllumi, maj, hum, llum mys)
      Also the -nd. Arbëreshët and South Albanians use it.
      For example, Tosk Albanian : nder, ndihma, ndal, ndez, ndejta etc. (in Geg Albanian they would be : ner, nima, nal, nez, nejta.)
      Also other words that he used, shoqi/shoqja for wife /husband are used in Tosk Albanian nowadays.
      And every other word that he used except, motramëmë and mortatë, for which in Albanian (Tosk and Gheg) we use teze and halla, which unfortunately are Turkish and we lost the original words for them, but glad I learnt from the Arbëreshë now.
      If it might sound similar to your dialect, that is because afterall it is Albanian language. But not "more like" as you said, because Arbëreshët speak a variant of Tosk Albanian. And the Albanian guy in this video, Klajdi, clearly has not much knowledge about Tosk Albanian and our words.

    • @googleuser3266
      @googleuser3266 4 роки тому +1

      @@erdibulku6848 exactly, like it's a fact that Arbëreshët speak a variant of Tosk Albanian. These people in the comments are so dumb😂
      I mean afterall it is Albanian language, of course they'll understand. But they can't deny the fact that Arbëreshe speak the Tosk dialect.

    • @LiLa-po3mh
      @LiLa-po3mh 4 роки тому +2

      @@googleuser3266 my friend you really need to calm down. I didn’t mean to offend anybody. I speak gheg and we also say mbaj, ndaj, nder, ndhima, ndal and ndejta in the region I’m from in Kosovo. And you really don’t need to explain the differences of both dialects to me. I speak gheg and my husband speaks tosk. So I’m clearly aware of the differences and the similarities and I understand everything spoken in tosk. I also know that not all arbereshe people speak the same way. The reason why I assumed it was the word shpi and kriet (even though we say kryt). So please get your facts right before you comment and don’t call anybody or anybody’s comment dumb. And it isn’t a competition after all. Both dialects are beautiful in their own way.

    • @engko5718
      @engko5718 4 роки тому

      Dani mar senet o te mjer. Kur sdini histori mos folni sipas qefit deshirav. Jarani vet e tha krevi qe nkosov e thojn ala shpi ky ke dialekt geg nine zanoren A qysh e shqipton.Plus arbereshet ne itali jan familje kohen e skenderbeut edhe jan shiptaret e mores edhe e kan ba miks fjalorin hajde lozim te shpia 😂

  • @attomicchicken
    @attomicchicken 4 роки тому +3

    Always a pleasure to have Klajd on. He's my favourite Albanian. Habib hit me up if you're in Australia one day.

  • @albania8982
    @albania8982 4 роки тому +10

    Love my Albanian people man. So nice to know that we kept our language and culture. Love from London 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @sevketcoskun2922
    @sevketcoskun2922 4 роки тому +14

    Albanian seem to use Turkish words but Arberesh is not using Turkish words. This is the difference I think.

    • @rauðaz
      @rauðaz 4 роки тому +4

      In part is true, however Arbereshe uses a lot of Italian in its speech, sometimes they even do code switching between Arbereshe Albanian and Italian

    • @rauðaz
      @rauðaz 4 роки тому

      @İl Grande ARTHAS Uzbek has more Persian loanwords than Turkish which instead got reformed by Ataturk, if you have to check an Perso-Arab free Turkic language give a look at those spoken in Siberia, but beware, they have lots of influences from Mongolian, Ewenki and Russian.

  • @albcan3549
    @albcan3549 4 роки тому +11

    The very first Italian Prime Minister Francesco Crispi was 100% Arberesh!.

    • @soul8938
      @soul8938 4 роки тому +3

      So was pope clemens the 11th

  • @aleksinatetka
    @aleksinatetka 4 роки тому +14

    This is an amazing discovery for me. I'm a bit ashamed, but even if I'm from the Balkans, I didn't know about Arberesh. It's very interesting to hear you guys
    talking and recognizing influences, more roman in Arberesh, like nonna, animal, more Turkish in Albanian (baba, hala, teyze). It's interesting that in Arberesh tata is the same as in some Slavic langages. Keep up the good work, guys! Klajd, if you don't have a channel, you should have one, I think that many of us like hour humor. 😊 You and Martin are both very sweet. Bahador, ❤️ for your family here too 😉

    • @klmsps5576
      @klmsps5576 4 роки тому +7

      tata is used in middle albanian dialect also, but we use the word baba when we call our dad. When you want to tell someone is somebody’s dad we say He is “i ati” which means He is the fATher - ‘At’ it means father in albanian.

    •  4 роки тому +5

      @@klmsps5576 and we say i jati

    •  4 роки тому

      thank you

    • @klmsps5576
      @klmsps5576 4 роки тому +2

      @ yes we do it too, most people say i jati, but the root word is AT which is found in most languages like english fATher, german fATar, tATa in albanian and slavic, ata in turkish, tata dada dad etc

    • @alb0zfinest
      @alb0zfinest 4 роки тому +2

      Tata, tante, etc are probably indo-European in origin rather than slavic in particular. If the French use it, I doubt they borrowed it from the Slavs.

  • @erindbezati8490
    @erindbezati8490 4 роки тому +11

    Klajd, i think Martin knows Albanian a bit better than you my friend ;) Every word Martin mentions, is in the Albanian language, whether in Tosk or Gheg dialect.

  • @arxh6944
    @arxh6944 4 роки тому +4

    I love this! Since my name is Arbëresha I learning things about the Arbëreshë

  • @b.h.6250
    @b.h.6250 4 роки тому +5

    Wow! Amazing! Thank you so much for this video!
    I loved how he explained what “ushqim” and “puno” means for the Arbereshe! How the language has evolved in Albania.
    I’d love to know how a second generation British guy comes to know Arbereshe so well?!

    • @useralb7
      @useralb7 4 роки тому

      but im from kosovo and all the words from Arbereshe dialect are the same from our Gheg dialect in kosovo the reason Klajd didn’t understand some is because he speaks tosk dialect

    •  4 роки тому +2

      i know it so well because i grew up speaking it and have researched it

    • @gertituzi4659
      @gertituzi4659 4 роки тому +1

      @ most migrant communities tend to protect their customs and languages much more than the original community, and they serve as a snapshot of the people in time. That’s why I consider your dialect a snapshot of old Albanian. I’m curious if the way Arbëresh is used today, has had any, say, ongoing updates from the Albanian side (trade, ongoing migration, etc) or has it been independent in these 5/6 centuries? If the latter, than the way you sound must be the way Arbëresh/Shqip sounded 6 centuries ago. I’m curious if you’ve given this any thought.
      Edit: also if the latter still holds, I am amazed at how well we, as a people, have preserved our language, because I can understand your dialect quite well.

    • @iuiu8831
      @iuiu8831 4 роки тому

      @@useralb7 korca tosks speak the same. Klajdi is too young to know more or he does not live in ALBANIA at all

    • @TheEniiii
      @TheEniiii 4 роки тому

      @ hi Martin, everything you said is 100% albanian spoken in south of albania too. I am from south Albania and we use nuse, dhender, krie, shok ose shoqe for husband and wife. Mik for friends and zbrazet for empty and Tata and Atë and ngrënë (to eat) and you said llau we say vellau or vëllezërit (vëllaznit in gegh).. soo i understand you perfectly. I am very happy for that. We love arbëreshe and we even sing arbëreshe songs and we learn everything in history class in school... so keep going :)

  • @FARISKAR
    @FARISKAR 4 роки тому +25

    Im albanian and i live in italy with my arberesh friends and trust me i can understand, translate and interpretate literally your whole language( or our language) and tell you if some words got latin or greek roots, which ones are originals or not, which ones are old enough to be illyrian and stuff like these, my only problem the limit of my english vocabulary and knowledge

    • @arberkurjuni9214
      @arberkurjuni9214 4 роки тому +1

      So do you think ghranet for.money is like in my dialect dhanet?
      And harisits is linked to hajr?

  • @theowl5402
    @theowl5402 4 роки тому +22

    We also use "imshoq/imeshoqe" for husband and wife, and it's different from "shoqja ime" or "shoku im", which means my friend. "Nuse" and "dhëndërr" is used for people who are really getting married, but to distunguish from the marriage goal we now use "i/e dashuri/a" meaning my beloved one, for boyfriend and girlfriend, and "dashnori/dashnorja" for the lover but this evolved to a negative meaning. I guess back in 15th century there were no boyfriend and girlfriend outside marriage so this evolved differently. And "mik" is also used for very close friends or guests. "Kafshë" obviously comes from the verb "Kafshoj" - to bite, which means "the one that bites" or wildling, so the word for wildlings was then used for all animals. And about thank you-> Faleminderit is made of "Falem" (hello, greet) and "nderit" (favor, honour), translating to "I acknowledge the favor (that you did)".

  • @itzliron5767
    @itzliron5767 3 роки тому +11

    The abresh is speaking perfect albanian. E.g. the word work was meant sherben. So me sherbu means to serve. We know albanian is one of the oldest languages in the world and thats a quite good example for it, because the arbresh languag did not change that much rathen than the albanian used in albania because of turkish influents.
    Me sherbu = to serve. So you work for someone, you serve him. And Me e perpunu/punu is like to work the fields.

  • @AfrimGjonbalaj
    @AfrimGjonbalaj 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for doing this. It's fun to see the diversity of the Albanian culture.

  • @mademoissellemarie
    @mademoissellemarie 3 роки тому +5

    We really enjoyed the video . I'm Sicilian and my husband his Albanian from north. For my husband Martin was really clear and for me some of his words were clear aswell. We love to mix English Sicilian Albanian and Italian when we talk , we learned a lot of our languages doing that . The history of the Mediterranean sea and all the conections are really interesting.

    • @banzaaiiiii
      @banzaaiiiii 2 роки тому +1

      It's because u filthy swarthy sicilians brought them here during the norman conquest in the 10th century

  • @hane2868
    @hane2868 4 роки тому +10

    The majority of these Arbereshe words are present in the Albanian dialects and are used in the same way. Others, can guessed if you know the Albanian language. For example, the word "mememotra" is composed from meme and motra, it isn't hard to understand that it means the sister of the mother.

    • @gertituzi4659
      @gertituzi4659 4 роки тому

      Më mire do te ishte sikur t’i perdornim fjalet Shqip mëmëmotra ne vend te turqishtes “teze”.

    • @googleuser3266
      @googleuser3266 4 роки тому

      @@gertituzi4659 E vërtetë. Unë personalisht gjithmonë kam dashur të dija cilat ishin fjalët origjinale shqip në vend të halla, tezja, pasi e dija shumë mirë që ishin turke dhe jo shqip.
      Më bëhet shumë qejfi që e mësova tani, që fjala shqipe për teze është "motramëmë" (motra e mëmës) dhe për hallën është "mortatë " ( mor, shkurtimi i fjalës "motër" siç e tha dhe ky djali arbëresh, + e të atit)
      Sa keq që në shqip nuk i përdorim më kështu, mendoj se duhet të shtohen në fjalorin tonë dhe të fillojnë të përdoren gjerësisht.

  • @EthemD
    @EthemD 3 роки тому +3

    Was really interesting to watch :) great to see the language preserved. I haven't spotted any Turkish people commenting haha so here are the words we also have in Turkish:
    Para = money
    Boş = empty
    Baba = Father
    Nine (also pronounced like nene) = Grandma
    Hala = aunt(father side)
    Teyze = aunt(mother side)
    Dede (sounds like tata) = grandpa

  • @1212-w7o
    @1212-w7o 4 роки тому +46

    That Albanian has no idea about his country history😫

    • @ILLYRIANW0LF
      @ILLYRIANW0LF 4 роки тому

      @Kristian Pepaj You are serb right ?

    • @ILLYRIANW0LF
      @ILLYRIANW0LF 4 роки тому +1

      @Kristian Pepaj jo jo slav më kujtohet, ju duke deklaruar se, kishit gjetur një dokument që vërtetonte se ju jeni me origjinë serbe.
      Ku është ky dokument tani ?

    • @zik7724
      @zik7724 4 роки тому +4

      @@ILLYRIANW0LF Albanians came from Causcaus in Asia, Albanian isn't european language lol.

    • @ILLYRIANW0LF
      @ILLYRIANW0LF 4 роки тому +11

      @@zik7724 I see you trying to be funny. Let me tell you something serious though, *Google: Serboi tribe* Caucasus is your true home, North Ossetia to be precise.

    • @zik7724
      @zik7724 4 роки тому

      @@ILLYRIANW0LF most albanians aren't white to be real and it's nothing bad, Albanians are very brave people but there's historical facts

  • @Claxen11
    @Claxen11 4 роки тому +9

    I'm having so much fun watching and I don't know either language but I'm an italo-southafrican making a Thesis on Piramida, Tirana so this is interesting. In Puglia they also speak Griko which is a dialect of Greek. Love from 🇮🇹 to our Balkan cheese on bread lovers.

    • @gertituzi4659
      @gertituzi4659 4 роки тому

      On what Pyramid? The actual pyramid building ?

  • @anacastriota7573
    @anacastriota7573 4 місяці тому +1

    I have learnt so much watching this video! thank you!

  • @esesci
    @esesci 4 роки тому +8

    It’s interesting that the most of the differences are Turkish words added to Albanian (boş, para, hala, teyze etc). If it wasn’t for them, the languages seem to be almost the same.

    • @esesci
      @esesci 4 роки тому +1

      @Vardous Corvinus Scanderbeg I think such exchanges between languages are inevitable due to cultural interaction. Turkish also has some Albanian words. But it’s still great to be able to obeserve historical forms of the languages today.

    • @giovannialoi6143
      @giovannialoi6143 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah but it’s interesting that sometimes some words are Albanian in Albanian and from Italian/Italians dialect in Arbëresh, like animal “kafshë” in Albanian and “animall” in Arbëreshë. Sometimes both languages borrowed the same word one from Turkish (penxhere window from pencere) the other from Italian (fenestrë same meaning from finestra). Sometimes there is also a non-Turkish synonym in Albanian but still different from arbërëshë like “emta” instead of halla or teze.

    • @iuiu8831
      @iuiu8831 4 роки тому

      Used to think WERE turkish but if you study further might find out there are old albanian words used in Turkey area. Balkan peninsula had Pelasgian population up to Turkey today. Immigration from east and south in centuries mixed population and changed many features , language among them

  • @agrondolla4102
    @agrondolla4102 4 роки тому +7

    First of all I love you my arberesh brothers ,I feel like everybody has Pride for their homeland, but I feel like we Albanians just go further and to se someone like hime Second generation In England and arberesh makes me say wow I’m so proud to see someone like that I wish to see more aberberesh and hear more of their beautiful language

  • @endall1333
    @endall1333 4 роки тому +5

    It's fantastic arbëreshe have kept teaching albanian to their kids for centuries, the arvanites in Greece have buried the language along with their roots.
    #respect 🖤❤️

  • @blertaajeti4206
    @blertaajeti4206 4 роки тому +14

    Na, t'Kosovës e pasmi leht me u marr vesh me Arbreshet 🤩. Paqe per ju 🕊❤🖤

    • @xheriss3079
      @xheriss3079 2 роки тому +1

      Ne fakt ne te shqiperis nuk kuptohemi mir me ju
      E kemi me te veshtir 😂

    • @blertaajeti4206
      @blertaajeti4206 2 роки тому

      @@xheriss3079 kurse ne me ju, po 🤪☺️

    • @xheriss3079
      @xheriss3079 2 роки тому

      @@blertaajeti4206 po ska gajle shqiptar jemi

    • @albarmy1
      @albarmy1 2 роки тому

      ju smerreni vesh me njeri tjetrin njiher 🤣

    • @Dardania06
      @Dardania06 Рік тому

      @@xheriss3079 😮 Gajle përdoret n'Shqipëri apo e ke dëgju te ne.
      Po ashtu jam habit kur e kam dëgju se fjalët, nejse, boll etj që përdoren edhe në Shqipëri ,boll e kam dëgju edhe në jug.