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Still Life in C Tier is insane to me, but we all have different tastes. That said, I hope you do explore the modern albums a bit more. There’s great stuff there!
Still Life is my number 2. Ghost Reveries being the top. Two unparalleled, expansive and focused records with insanely gorgeous melodies and arrangements. Love them.
Heritage has grown on me but I haven't really enjoyed anything after. Nothing against progressive music or lack of harsh vocals. Haken's Fauna blew me away earlier this year and newer porcupine tree has been surprisingly good. Just opeth kind of lost me with their transition. Always respect big Mike and the boys doing whatever music inspires them but guess I always have the old albums to revisit
For the longest time, I listened only the earlier stuff. But now as I progressed towards the newer ones, I love them so much as well! This band never disappoints.
Wow Still Life C tier? What about the concept behind it? I think it really compliments the musicianship of the album which imo is not boring at all. Still respect your opinion.
See what's funny is I'm actually with him on that same opinion about Still Life. I dunno what it is, to me it's definitely Opeth sounds. It's not bad. It's the first album where I don't think of it as the early Opeth sound like I do with the first 3. IF I had heard it as the first album of theirs or even as their 4th album having only heard the first 3 before hearing it. I could maybe understand the love and praise this album gets. But I didn't ,and sounds like neither did he. That's why I think it doesn't stand out as much for us. I first heard Opeth when I bought Deliverance in a CD store as a random "hey never heard of them , random blind let's give them a shot buy" and the world this band opened up to my 17\18 year old brain was insane. Went from listening to Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Mudvayne, Linkin Park..... To Opeth and all the Gothenburg bands to start. Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, In Flames, hypocrisy, the haunted etc. But for that reason.... I gotta come in with a "sir I strongly disagree" with saying that Deliverance is bottom tier filler. I love that album. Love every track. Wreath, Deliverance, and By the pain I see in others have all ended up in many different mixes or playlists over the years. Also just wanna say I hated and could never get into Morningrise until a couple years ago. But recently has climbed to contender for my favorite Opeth album. I'd even say it's better, but doesn't hold that personal meaning that Deliverance has for me.
I would almost agree with him, there are just parts on this album that feel very convoluded and inconsistent to me. I'd not say it's boring but apart from bangers like face of melinda or serenity painted death, songs kinda drag too long and get into too many sections that could have just been cut altogether. I think mikael himself once said it's their most complicated record and I personally agree lol
One of my top 10 all time favorite bands! S: Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation A: Still Life, Ghost Reveries, Sorceress B: Watershed, My Arms, Your Hearse, In Cauda Venenum C: Pale Communion, Morningrise, D: Orchid, Heritage For the sake of diversity I have a C and D tier but every albums on this list is good. Even my least favorite is a 6-7/10.
for me its S: Ghost Reveries, Still Life, Watershed A: Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation B: Heritage, Pale Communion, My Arms Your Hearse C: Orchid, Morningrise, In Cauda Venenum D: Sorceress I'm probably Heritage's biggest fan boy. I think its vastly underrated. The disjointed, despondent composition really does something unique for me. Also, Axe absolutely shredded that album drum-wise.
Hahaha, if you put Heritage at B, then I think you might have to reliquish the title of its greatest fan boy to me, bc it is up there with Watershed and Ghost Reveries in my personal Opeth top 3, and I'd put them all in S!
I think 'Damnation' is an absolutely gorgeous album in entirety. I'd compare it to if Opeth did an Unplugged album release like how impactful Alice in Chains' Unplugged show/album was. Also, the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree is super apparent. In my opinion, it's A-tier and I feel like it has a positive ranking across the fanbase, but I could be wrong.
@@MetalTrenches The Opeth "Lamentations" DVD / Album is simply stunning because they play all of damnation unplugged, followed by a set of some of their best heavy tracks. It's the best of both worlds!
S: Still Life, My Arms, Your Hearse , Blackwater Park A: Morning Rise, Deliverance, Ghost Reveries B: Orchid, Damnation, Watershed C: In Cauda Venenum D: Pale Communion F: Heritage, Sorceress
Still Life at C tier is pure blasphemy. I personally like the exact tracks in the middle the most. Benighted is my favourite "chill" Opeth song, and Moonlapse Vertigo is one of my fav tracks overall. The intro part where the lead guitar plays and the acoustic guitar comes on underneath everything that is going on is one of my favourite music arrangements of all time
Interesting takes on this particular discography. A (former) fan since the Orchid days, Still Life was the last album I bought in real time. I felt the same about it. But now I find myself getting back into BP and everything after, the prog rock albums growing on me rapidly. Just got myself a ticket to their show very close to my hometown in August. And I really can't wait to see that!
In my opinion, Ghost reveries is an easy S Tier album , every song is just a banger. Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds is opeths best intro of all there albums in my opinion
Opeth was my intro band to Death Metal/Black Metal/Prog Rock/Metal so I have a bias for Them. Honestly besides Sorceress I like everything else they have done. Blackwater Park, Still Life (I get your reasoning with this album), Watershed and My Arms your Hearse are my favorites. One of my favorite Bands
One of the greats for a good reason. I asked someone on the podcast once who will be the big name people in metal that will be remembered the same way the older generation talks about Ozzy, Lemmy, etc. Their answer: Akerfeldt
I kinda agree with this actually. Everyone around me even remotely into Opeth keeps telling me that Still Life is amazing....yet I cannot for the life of me focus on the music, it's a bit boring for me as well. And that is coming from someone who likes atmospheric black metal a lot. Best Opeth albums are Morningrise and My arms Your Hearse for me
S. Still Life, Blackwater Park, Watershed, In Cauda Venenum A. Morningrise, My Arms Your Hearse, Ghost Reveries, Sorceress B. Deliverance, Damnation, Pale Communion C. Orchid, Heritage
S - Still Life, Blackwater Park, My Arms, Your Hearse A -Ghost Reveries, Deliverance, Damnation, In Cauda Venenum, Watershed B-Orchid, Pale Communion, Morningrise C-Sorceress, Heritage
So glad someone put MAYH at a high tier cause that album is criminally underrated, There rawest / most consistent and basically where Opeth found there trademark sound... Kudos.
I almost disliked your video for about 2 seconds until I was like “let’s hear your opinion” and yeah, I understand that. A lot of people can’t seem to dig white cluster, moonlapse vertigo, and god heads lament so I get why it wasn’t your favorite. It was the last album to hear by opeth for me and it hit me the hardest and one of my fav of all time. Top 3 fav songs by them are bleak, drapery falls, and Moonlapse vertigo(not gonna hurt myself by trying to rank them). 2 out of three are from BP but I like every song on SL more than funeral portrait so yeah.
Not even 2 seconds I think. I think it was more instant thinking than that. I did end up liking it btw and subscribing and clicking the bell. I saw your comment on quest for metals tool album ranking video. And... you said messugar instead of Meshuggah I think.
I’ve also had a tough go with Still Life. I feel like it was a combination of it being the last classic Opeth album I heard, the fact that it’s held up so high by fans, and even the fact that it’s the predecessor to Blackwater Park, all of these factors left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. I still like it, but I can’t call it one of my favorites either.
I started listening to Opeth heavily in 2008, so I'm a newer fan. They're one of my favorite bands ever: S: Ghost Reveries - Still Life - Blackwater Park A: My Arms, Your Hearse - Watershed - Deliverance B: Damnation - Orchid C: Morningrise D: Pale Communion
S blackwater park A watershed, still life, my arms B ghost reveries, pale communion, deliverance, damnation C morning rise, in cauda venenum, orchid, heritage D sorceress
There are two tiers for me with Opeth. S-tier: Everything up to 2010 and B-tier: the 2010s stuff. It would be impossible for me to split it up anymore. I don't know how you did it, lol
13. Heritage 12. In Cauda Venenum 11. Pale Communion 10. Morningrise 9. Sorceress 8. Watershed 7. Damnation 6. Orchid 5. Deliverance 4. Ghost Reveries 3. Still Life 2. My Arms, Your Hearse 1. Blackwater Park
13. Heritage 12. In Cauda Venenum 11. Pale Communion 10. Morningrise 9. Sorceress 8. Watershed 7. Orchid 6. Deliverance 5. Damnation 4. Still Life 3. Ghost Reveries 2. My Arms, Your Hearse 1. Blackwater Park
My list: S: Blackwater Park, Still Life, Ghost Reveries. A: Damnation, Deliverance, My Arms, Your Hearse. B: Watershed, Morningrise. C: Orchid, the last four albums.
S - Blackwater Park, Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse A - Deliverance, Damnation, Ghost Reveries, Morningrise B - Orchid, Watershed Haven't heard the others but they maintained a pretty solid discography for 9 albums
Thank you so much. I really do strive for that balance and yes, thankfully momentum is BOOMING right now. We should be hitting 5k at this rate around May if not earlier
1. Blackwater park 2. Ghost reveries 3. Watershed 4. Still life 5. Deliverance 6. My arms, your hearse 7. Damnation 8. In cauda venenum 9. Morningrise 10. Orchid 11. Pale communion 12. Heritage 13. Sorceress
S: Still Life, Deliverance, My Arms Your Hearse A: Ghost Reveries, Blackwater Park, Damnation B: Watershed, Morningrise, Pale Communion, Orchid, Heritage C: In Cauda Venenum, Sorceress
Personally, my S tier is; Ghost Reveries, Deliverance, Damnation, Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse, Blackwater Park, Watershed, Orchid, and Morningrise.
Worst to best for me.... 13. Heritage 12. Pale Communion 11. Sorceress 10. In Cauda Venenum 9. Orchid 8. Watershed 7. Morningrise 6. Damnation 5. Blackwater Park 4. Deliverance 3. Ghost Reveries 2. Still Life 1. My Arms, Your Hearse
1: Still Life and Blackwater park 2: My Arms, Your Hearse 3: Pale Communion 4: Watershed 5: Sorceress 6: Ghost Reveries 7: Heritage 8: Damnation 9: Deliverance 10: In Cauda Venenum 11: Orchid 12: Morningrise
I completely agree with your list, my arms your hearse and Blackwater park have such a great atmosphere and its the two albums that I can lie down and listen to without getting distracted
S: My Arms Your Hearse, Still Life, Blackwater Park A: Ghost Revelries, Watershed B: Orchid, Morningrise, Damnation C: In Cuada Venenum, Pale Communion D: Heritage, Sorceress
It's really splitting hairs for me what goes in S and A (and the order within), but here is my cut at it. I also don't "get" Still Life. It's just not what I reach for when I want Opeth. I listen to anything in B tier more than Still Life. I listen to ALL of B tier before Still Life. In Cauda for me is a lot like the new Tool album - I put it on when I am in the mood for a long uninterrupted, mellow listening through. S: Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries A: Deliverance, Damnation, Watershed, Pale Communion B: Sorceress, Heritage, In Cauda Venenum, My Arms Your Hearse C: Still Life, Orchid D: Morningrise
Ghost Reveries is my favorite. You have the extreme death metal and the prog. Ghost Reveries is my number 5 metal album overall and my favorite Opeth album. Good list.
Nice skull mask dude lol Opeth is my favorite bands. It’s cool to see that you agree with me on Still Life lol I gotta disagree with you on Damnation tho. It’s one of my S Tiers actually, but I loved hearing your opinion on it regardless. Also, I love their prog rock era just as much as their death metal era, but I do have to be honest here about the prog rock. It tends to sound like loops of short sections in longer prog metal songs. That’s really the only criticism I can give to Opeth’s prog rock era lol
Thanks for watching. I'll have to give Damnation a little more focus. In any case, plenty more of these and more to check out on the channel. Playlist in my other comment.
I truly don't understand people who don't get the feels from damnation. I literally borderline cry listening to every damn song on damnation but its quite interesting how opinions can differ so much
Hey I definitely agree with you in the sense that to me Still Life is overrated. I like it don't get me wrong. It's damn good. But Opeth has at least half or more of their discography that I would rather choose to listen to. Here's my Opeth Albums Ranked From Best to Worst #1-Deliverance (This was my gateway album from nu metal\metalcore to melodic death metal... Wasa good year between this and Damage Done #2-Morningrise #3-Blackwater Park #4-My Arms, Your Hearse #5-Ghost Reveries #6-Orchid #7-Still Life #8-Watershed #9-Sorceress #10-Damnation #11-Pale Communion #12-Heritage #13-In Caude Venenum
Good list. personally my favorite Opeth era is the early 2000's and I find myself always going back to Still Life, Black Waterpark, Deliverance & Damnation the most. It was the peak of their career imo. Just love that dark and poetic sound they had at that time. But I find something I like in the rest of their work also.
*S: Morningrise* A: Orchid, Still Life, Ghost Reveries B: MAYH, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation C: Watershed, Pale Communion, In Cauda Venenum D: Heritage, Sorceress Their early albums played a big part in introducing me to the wonder of Metal, so I've always craved that melancholy twin-guitar trademark sound haha.
13. Heritage 12. Morningrise 11. Sorceress 10. Orchid 9. Damnation 8. In Cauda Venenum 7. Pale Communion 6. Deliverance 5. Watershed 4. My Arms Your Hearse 3. Ghost Reveries 2. Blackwater Park 1. Still Life 13.- 7. changes for me often, depending on the mood.
S: Ghost Reveries, Still Life A: Blackwater Park, MAYH B: Damnation, Orchid, Deliverance, Pale Communion C: Watershed, Morningrise, Sorceress D: Heritage, In Cauda Venenum F: None Even Opeth's worst album is better than most bands best album. ICV may move higher at some point. It seems with their newer albums that I start out disliking them until I revisit it a few times over a couple years.
@NaPo7 MAYHs still sounds like their most complete album to these ears sorry to say, also not a dull moment on there, which i suppose is the case for all their albums, except blackwater park obviously
@@rockonthestone4907 Dude mayh is not a good album. Its not cohesive at all, just mashed up ideas like their previous albums before that. Their is some resemblance of what was to come but I don't get how its close to S tier
@@Heatwave9000MAYH is nothing like the previous albums. It’s much heavier and they tightened the songwriting by a massive degree. It is much more cohesive than anything before it. It’s the album that effectively defined their signature sound that was continued and expanded upon through Watershed.
The Moor at C-tier is questionable at least ;) I feel like you're missing out on newer stuff as well, Opeth aging quite well even if I miss the cookie monster growl sometimes. S - Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Still Life A - Deliverance, Damnation, Watershed, My Arms Your Hearse B - Sorceress, In Cauda Venenum, Pale Communion, Heritage C - Morningrise, Orchid
"Masters Apprentices" is a certified Opeth Banger and should put "Deliverance" in B Tier at least, maybe even A-Tier. And no love for Damnation hurts every Opeth fan. "Death wispered a lullaby" is even one of the weaker tracks on it, compared with songs like "To rid the disease" and its haunting piano.
S(S)till life. 😏 Deliverance and Damnation were supposed to be a double cd album, but the label didn't like that idea, so I heard. Damnation is really good! The last album, sweedish version is also very good. (I'm still rockin' that "...Beyond the Within" insane album! 6 tracks on it are among my enslaved favorites now.)
Honestly for me the ranking would be: S tier: pretty much all the old albums with the exception of Orchid and Morningrise A: Watershed. Love it, just not as much as the others B: Morningrise, Orchid. Great albums but a bit inconsistent if you ask me. C: Pale Communion and Sorceress. Love the "chill Opeth", just not really that much into the whole 70s prog music weirdness. D. Heritage. I don't think it is bad, it has some really good tracks and I even love the bonus track (face in the snow) but the transition from metal to this type of prog rock was done very abruptly at the time and overall this album is the most inconsistent imo. Unknown: In cauda veneum. I have listened to this album a few times and felt it is kinda decent. People say this is the best Opeth album since Watershed but honestly haven't listened to it enough times to fully digest it yet
haven't listened to Sussiest or Incarnates Vsauce yet 1. Still Life 2. Blackwater Park 3. Ghost Reveries 4. Deliverance 5. Watershed 6. Pale Communion 7. My Arms Your Hearse 8. Morningrise 9. Damnation 10. Orchid 11. Heritage
My list! S A Blackwater park, sorceress B My arms your herse, Palce communion, ghost reveries C Morningrise, Orchid, watershed, heritage, in cauda venenum D Still life, deliverance, damnation Sadly there is no S tier Opeth album in my mind. Blackwater park is close but really only 2 of the songs hit me all the way through. Bleak and Blackwater park. The rest is just not enticing all the way through and in my mind you need more than 2 out of 9 through and through bangers to get an S tier... Like if the lepper affinity ended when the clean singing began and went straight into bleak i think the Leper affinity would have been one of my alltime fave Opeth tracks, but no it's got 6 minutes more the fucker xD (Bleak and the title tracks are both one of my favorite songs of all time though no matter the band) Sorceress is also incredibly close... just some songs are again as blackwater park... to long and too wierd. In my mind Opeth has never been that good at long songs and mostly flops it with just a few diamond corns sifting through from time to time. I know this is an EXTREMELY controversial opinion but Opeth has some of the best riffs but not the song structures to back them up. Is it only me who thinks this?
Hahaha! Not really much of a brave opinion i find it quite universal that Opeth rarely manages to put out a release that has the quality of songwriting running all the way through it, though taste is luckily subjective ;) I find Blackwater park to be a great album overall but not in S tier for me, that is reserved for the very best albums i have listened to and for me there is too many parts that just doesn't reach it's full potential. I can say i have listened to every single Opeth album probably at least 5-6 times, most many more so i am well aquinted with their discography. Even Deliverance and Damnation which i find the weakest of the bunch. Still life i would have bumped up if not for the production honestly. I do agree the Damnation album got some damn good production and i do not listen to it for DM i will tell you that much xD Never been much of a fan of the Death metal in Opeth honestly, always felt it lacked a bit of punch, and i am also mostly a fan of Black and Trash metal, death metal just never really was my thing even though i have listened to tons of it! Though i could not put it CLOSE to any of the great floyd albums, i LOVE pink floyd and is in my mind maybe the best band to ever walk this planet, the musicianship is out if this world but not my favorite band though, though the wall honestly is not one of their absolute best it still is far beyond what is on Damnation. I am not the hugest fan of the depressing mood of Damnation at all, i do endulge in more depressive music to explore as much as i can but if i go for depressing moods i go for black metal most of the time xD I would love to love the rest of Blackwater Park more, even though i am a HUGE fan of long songs, and for me the long ones are usually the best ;) One thing i have to say is i always had this small of a hate towards BP because honestly it's an album i want to love all the way through but it just looses my attention and i find myself not rewarded for the patience in the song. Like in the title track when the long pause comes it is really worth it everytime to soak in the whole part inbetween and really feel the reward when it hits you. The rest of the album i find has too many bland parts and just comes short of my criteria for S tier, though still a damn good solid A from me at least! Yeah the first three albums got some slack but there is plenty to love on those ones to, just i think they never quite cleaned up their messy song structuring and often fail to carry themselves all the way through an album. I almost always listen to music while paying close attention, most often i suck up multiple albums a week all the way from Prog rock to reggea to metalcore to black metal. I am simply a music fan and i do play alot of music myself and i always try to come in to an album and just take it for what it is, especially with bands like Opeth which i have always struggled to get into. I try my best to take these bands which don't hit me at once and try to relisten to the artist until i really get what they are about and understand as much as i can about their music and their sound, feeling and whatever else there is to explore in it! And i never really came to Opeth for the Death metal at all, i love the prog rock side of them the most which i found they took furthest on sorceress. It took me quite a long time to like that album as well as much as i do but there is just so much to dive into and so many awesome parts and changes plus quite intruiging lyrical content and i am a huge fan of it! My favorite probably just edging out Blackwater park by a small inch or two. I went back and listened to Damnation a couple more times over the last days but it just doesn't quite do it for me, i might bump both damnation and deliverance a tier up to C after i have re-listened to them but that would be it for how high those would go for me. I am also VERY strict with my rating and take them purely as a personal opinion and not as a subjective rating on how much i would think others like it. And i love my prog rock a bit more playfull and ubeat aswell ;) Like Rush is very much my style (and as mainly a drummer Neil Peart is just a blast of impressive shit through and through for me to listen to always) Sorceress got alot more of that playfull and experimental side and it was great to hear them go and try out alot of new stuff and i think they did it real good. It is quite heavy as well to be honest! Would recomend you giving it a go again aswell! And i find Opeth to be somewhat of an enigma for me, a band i feel i should love through and through but just can quite not manage to love as much as i want to. My favorite band i can tell is Enslaved though which of course is a mix of mostly prog and black which is much more my style of long songs. Opeth i feel has ten minute longs songs with ten or more different parts and riffs and tons of changes while Enslaved is alot more huge and keeps the music and song structuring alot more streamlined and focues which just makes it pack alot more punch in my ears and i always feel rewarded even when they have the same riff going often for minutes straight. To each to one of their taste i guess!
i personally think Ghost Reveries is the best followed up by Still Life and BWP on 2nd and 3rd place all in S tier tbh nearly all opeth albums are S tier worthy
I respect your opinion but Still life Star ⭐️ 1 S for me. I feel you are a little unopen minded about ballads🔒 to me “Face Of Melinda” for example is one ☝️ of the best 6 Opeth tracks ever. Such a beautiful atmosphere inside !
@@MetalTrenches i respect . But you tell us to write ✍️ our opinions in the comment , and as a UA-camr with 12.500 subs sometimes I like to listen 🎧 other people . I appreciated your job. To me Still Life is really really good 🔥but of course it is about personal tastes in music every time
I see people astonished by some of your choices, but I find watching tier lists so fun because of that difference of opinion. Blackwater Park isone of my favorites too and I also stopped listening to them after they became a 70s prog rock band. It's something my uncle would love but I'm not really interested.
For some reason, My Arms, Your Hearse has never quite done it for me. I just have never been able to fully connect with it - awesome title, though. But from Still Life on through ghost Reveries, what a roll they were on! However, for me, Deliverance is where it's at. I know it was supposed to be "the heavy album," especially as compared to its would-be twin, Damnation, but I find the heavy/soft balance just right. And I love Damnation too - the perfect soundtrack to long, dark winter nights.
I don't think you have to be a die hard fan to enjoy Deliverance and Damnation - man 'b sides maybe says more about your taste for just heavy stuff than the many many excellent qualities that are actually in the music. I'd say 'solid' doesn't communicate much when you say it either. What does solid mean?
I agree with that take on respecting a band when they change genres, where their passion lies. I miss Older Leprous for instance, the TPS to The Congregation Era, however... I still listen to them. I respect the shit out of them wanting to do a more prog pop/rock style instead of prog metal/avante gard metal.
S tier - Morningrise, MAYH, Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation, Ghost Reveries, Watershed A tier - Orchid, Pale Communion, Heritage B tier - In Cauda Venenum, Sorceress Not my favorite band
Never got into Opeth, i'll have to give their early stuff more of a listen, that later stuff i've heard sounds like "girlfriend rock" and didn't really dig much of it (though I agree with your sentiment about artists being genuine and following their wants/ endeavors). I know Akerfeldt from Bloodbath, great Death Metal hands down.
@@forgemastermetal About halfway through listening to it, honestly not really getting into it, snapping from the more blackened melodic riffage and vocal side to the abrupt acoustic and girlfriend rock singing is throwing me off. Can't get into it, I respect it for what it is, but not my cup of tea.
Anything from Still Life to Watershed is S Tier for me. Can't stand their first few albums because of the poor songwriting and bad production. Their new rock albums are decent but sound contrived from 70's and 60's prog to me. Some of their newer songs don't sound like Opeth to me. Sorceress is their most overrated album to me, not Still Life.
I share your opinion on MAYH and Deliverance. MAYH has kinda muddy production but it's super catchy and arguably their most re-listenable album. Deliverance is not bad per se but it's not memorable at all. Hard disagree on Still Life, Damnation and Ghost Reveries. Ghost Reveries is easily an "A" for its accessibility and production quality alone.
Still Life is my personal favorite but I can understand what you mean. I like the clean songs but some people might not and moonlapse vertigo is pretty forgettable.
Great video, respect for not commenting on the prog-rock stuff. I cannot relate at all with the ‘new’ direction, and of course do not like it. You found a good compromise of simply not talking about it as it is not your thing. Btw new subscriber!
Ohh man Damnation at D tier? Each to their own but Opeth is at it's best when it comes to the more acoustic progressive rock songs imo. But like I said each to their own
You didnt list "My arms your hearse" in the timestamps.. I assumed it would go into the "haevnt heard/no opinion" tier, and I was about to get angry, lol. Thankfully it landed where it deserves to be
S - Ghost Reveries and Blackwater - the former is an immortal album for me; no question I'll still be listening to it in another 20-30 years A - Damnation, Deliverance, and MAYH (as a newer fan of the band, the last one has REALLY grown on me over time) B - In Cauda Venenum - this is the only new album of theirs that grabs me at all, but it does a great job of it in its own way, and I legitimately seek it out with recurring frequency C - Still Life and Watershed - I think C fits for these, because I have so little to comment on here (aside from the combination of Coil into Heir Apparent being two of my favorite tracks of all time by them) D - Morningrise and Orchid; I have tried so, so many times on these, and I still just can't get anything out of 'em, much though I wish I could F - Sorceress, Heritage, Pale Communion - PC was so forgettable for me I actually had to google it. I don't actively despise this era, but man is it painful to listen to now, especially with how sloppy and inconsistent Heritage is.
I dont want to be look pretentious but The first three albums Orchid (1995) Morningrise (1996) My Arms, Your Hearse (1998) Are truly my favourite Everything on these three albums are absolutely beautiful Especially on Morningrise ●'Black Rose Immortal' ●'To bid you Farewell' ●'The Night and the Silent Water' There's something about this era of opeth people don't rlly understand and that hurts me man V underrated
It's not an album but I think The Drapery Falls is the single most overrated Opeth song. It just sounds so all over the place and incomplete to me, a severe lack of focus.
Most overated "metal band" of all time most of thire albums bore me to death, agree with your list pretty much anyway but i wuld change watershed to C and deliverence to A =)
13. Sorceress (3/10) Easily their weakest. Some parts of Chrysalis and Strange Brew are ok. But Mikael basically admitted it was a favor for Nuclear Blast because they insisted on an album in 2016. I want to insult this LP but I respect Opeth too much for their legacy. 12. Pale Communion (4/10) Prog Fans seem to like it but for me it sounds overproduced and soulless (That's why I don't like Prog Fans, nobody cares about production). Faith in Other and Cusp of Eternity save this album from being terrible. 11. In Cauda Venenum (4/10) Sorceress but with better song writing, not really a fan. Also way too much Deep Purple worship. All Things Will Pass is a good closer and Continuum is solid. 10. Ghost Reveries (5/10) Overrated and full of Dream Theater and Tool worship. I like Tool but DT is not good at all. Harlequin Forest and Isolation Years are good songs though but they already did it better before (White Cluster and Hope Leaves come to mind). My biggest gripes are 1.) too much keyboard and 2.) too much staccato riffs and 3.) it's overproduced and too planned-out. 9. Heritage (6/10) Slither, Häxprocess, Famine and Folklore are solid the rest I can take or leave. 8. Watershed (7/10) Fixed some of the Ghost Reveries issues but you could tell they were running out of ideas. Hessian Peel is the last Opeth song I fully endorse and it does some legwork for the album. Heir Apparent and Burden are solid songs as well. The rest doesn't do it for me. 7. Blackwater Park (7/10) Half of the songs (The Leper Affinity, Bleak, Dirge for November and the title track) are among their best work. The rest never really clicked. It's a little too "planned", maybe because of Steven Wilson who I don't really care for. 6. Deliverance (8/10) Fixed a lot of the problems I had with Blackwater Park, it's more spontaneous and consistend. The title track is overrated (still good!) but Wreath, A Fair Judgement and Master's Apprentices are highlights of their career. 5. Damnation (9/10) The last of the truly great Opeth. Threw their well known songwriting out of the window but retained the darkness. I love it despite not being a fan of King Crimson/Pink Floyd worship (I like the bands but many Proggers succ them off a little too hard). And here I have to give Wilson credit. The mellotron is brilliant on this album. My only critique is that there isn't more of it and that really sums it up. 4. Morningrise (9/10) THAT BASS. More folk oriented than usual but that's a good thing. This is the album Agalloch wishes to be. Some moments drag a little but the riffs are just sick (Advent, Nectar, Black Rose Immortal), so why would I care? 3. Orchid (9/10) Underrated beyond belief. In Mist She Was Standing, The Twilight is my Robe and The Apostle in Triumph are among their best epics. Forest of October and Under the Weeping Moon are more than solid. Unique mix of Prog/Death/Black/Folk Metal and psychedelic elements. 2. Still Life (10/10) The best of both Oldpeth in Midpeth. Has the song writing of Blackwater Park (without the bummers and the overproduction) mixed with the medieval elements of Orchid/Morningrise. Rightful classic. In my Top 20 metal albums. 1. My Arms, Your Hearse (10/10) Maybe my favorite metal album ever (Katatonia's Dance of December Souls and Sacramentum's Far Away for the Sun are close) and in my top 3 best experiences with music. I like all songs on here. My favorites are April Ethereal (best Opeth song), The Amen Corner and Karma (extremely underrated) but really everything shines on here. Their song writing mixed with ethereal vibes: I don't think anyone, not even Mikael could replicated this LP even if they tried. I stop writing now because it makes me want to binge this album again and I want to retain its magic.
S tier - Blackwater park, sorceress, still life A tier - my arms, morningrise B tier - orchid, pale communion, in cauda venenum C tier - heretige, ghost reveries D tier - d&d
@@MetalTrenches I speak figuratively lol. It is shocking though. How do you love MAYH and BP but dislike Still Life? Still Life is like a blend of both 🤷🏼♂️
Id say...and in fact Arkefeldt has said in interviews....that he has always loved progressive music and when writing for the band that influence is staring you in the face from the go in every composition somewhere....🧐I like what he says about heaviness too in his interviews. Heaviness is an attitude. Not any particular sound. I totally agree with him.
With you on the debut to a point. Got to it almost last (Morningrise was the last of them.) I think it's grown on me more than many others and is up there. I'm a Still Lifer😂 for sure but then I've never marked an Opeth album below 8/10 as I've just got into all of them at some point. I'd even say that's why they are the best band in the world.... especially with their recent steps in mind which I also adore. Their journey is for me the strongest progressively of any modern band.🤯😎
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Still Life in C Tier is insane to me, but we all have different tastes.
That said, I hope you do explore the modern albums a bit more. There’s great stuff there!
I shall when they drop a new one
Still Life is my number 2. Ghost Reveries being the top. Two unparalleled, expansive and focused records with insanely gorgeous melodies and arrangements. Love them.
Heritage has grown on me but I haven't really enjoyed anything after. Nothing against progressive music or lack of harsh vocals. Haken's Fauna blew me away earlier this year and newer porcupine tree has been surprisingly good. Just opeth kind of lost me with their transition. Always respect big Mike and the boys doing whatever music inspires them but guess I always have the old albums to revisit
For the longest time, I listened only the earlier stuff. But now as I progressed towards the newer ones, I love them so much as well! This band never disappoints.
The reason we loved metal is because we can find whatever we want and if you are happy with what you got, ENJOY
Wow Still Life C tier? What about the concept behind it? I think it really compliments the musicianship of the album which imo is not boring at all. Still respect your opinion.
I love the concept, just find the music boring. I know it's a very unpopular opinion as I said in the video.
@@MetalTrenches but them riffs!
@@jacobmarsh4829 Only that opening track gets me
See what's funny is I'm actually with him on that same opinion about Still Life. I dunno what it is, to me it's definitely Opeth sounds. It's not bad. It's the first album where I don't think of it as the early Opeth sound like I do with the first 3. IF I had heard it as the first album of theirs or even as their 4th album having only heard the first 3 before hearing it. I could maybe understand the love and praise this album gets. But I didn't ,and sounds like neither did he. That's why I think it doesn't stand out as much for us. I first heard Opeth when I bought Deliverance in a CD store as a random "hey never heard of them , random blind let's give them a shot buy" and the world this band opened up to my 17\18 year old brain was insane. Went from listening to Slipknot, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Mudvayne, Linkin Park..... To Opeth and all the Gothenburg bands to start. Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, In Flames, hypocrisy, the haunted etc.
But for that reason.... I gotta come in with a "sir I strongly disagree" with saying that Deliverance is bottom tier filler. I love that album. Love every track. Wreath, Deliverance, and By the pain I see in others have all ended up in many different mixes or playlists over the years.
Also just wanna say I hated and could never get into Morningrise until a couple years ago. But recently has climbed to contender for my favorite Opeth album. I'd even say it's better, but doesn't hold that personal meaning that Deliverance has for me.
I would almost agree with him, there are just parts on this album that feel very convoluded and inconsistent to me. I'd not say it's boring but apart from bangers like face of melinda or serenity painted death, songs kinda drag too long and get into too many sections that could have just been cut altogether. I think mikael himself once said it's their most complicated record and I personally agree lol
One of my top 10 all time favorite bands!
S: Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation
A: Still Life, Ghost Reveries, Sorceress
B: Watershed, My Arms, Your Hearse, In Cauda Venenum
C: Pale Communion, Morningrise,
D: Orchid, Heritage
For the sake of diversity I have a C and D tier but every albums on this list is good. Even my least favorite is a 6-7/10.
for me its
S: Ghost Reveries, Still Life, Watershed
A: Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation
B: Heritage, Pale Communion, My Arms Your Hearse
C: Orchid, Morningrise, In Cauda Venenum
D: Sorceress
I'm probably Heritage's biggest fan boy. I think its vastly underrated. The disjointed, despondent composition really does something unique for me. Also, Axe absolutely shredded that album drum-wise.
I’ll accept it 👍🏻
Hahaha, if you put Heritage at B, then I think you might have to reliquish the title of its greatest fan boy to me, bc it is up there with Watershed and Ghost Reveries in my personal Opeth top 3, and I'd put them all in S!
I think you should go back to In Cauda Venenum and give it another try, it'll definitely move up..
I think 'Damnation' is an absolutely gorgeous album in entirety. I'd compare it to if Opeth did an Unplugged album release like how impactful Alice in Chains' Unplugged show/album was. Also, the Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree is super apparent. In my opinion, it's A-tier and I feel like it has a positive ranking across the fanbase, but I could be wrong.
You're definitely not the only one responding with those thoughts.
Great comparison to the Alice in Chains "Unplugged" record!
Metal Forge Reviews I miss Unplugged
@@MetalTrenches The Opeth "Lamentations" DVD / Album is simply stunning because they play all of damnation unplugged, followed by a set of some of their best heavy tracks. It's the best of both worlds!
Windowpane is a masterpiece
S: Still Life, My Arms, Your Hearse , Blackwater Park
A: Morning Rise, Deliverance, Ghost Reveries
B: Orchid, Damnation, Watershed
C: In Cauda Venenum
D: Pale Communion
F: Heritage, Sorceress
Solid list
S-Still life;My Arms,your hearse;Ghost Reveries
Still Life at C tier is pure blasphemy. I personally like the exact tracks in the middle the most. Benighted is my favourite "chill" Opeth song, and Moonlapse Vertigo is one of my fav tracks overall. The intro part where the lead guitar plays and the acoustic guitar comes on underneath everything that is going on is one of my favourite music arrangements of all time
Interesting takes on this particular discography. A (former) fan since the Orchid days, Still Life was the last album I bought in real time. I felt the same about it. But now I find myself getting back into BP and everything after, the prog rock albums growing on me rapidly. Just got myself a ticket to their show very close to my hometown in August. And I really can't wait to see that!
In my opinion, Ghost reveries is an easy S Tier album , every song is just a banger. Ghost of Perdition and Baying of the Hounds is opeths best intro of all there albums in my opinion
S Tier: MAYH - Still Life
A: Morningrise - Orchid
B: Blackwater Park
Rest: lose interest
Opeth was my intro band to Death Metal/Black Metal/Prog Rock/Metal so I have a bias for Them. Honestly besides Sorceress I like everything else they have done. Blackwater Park, Still Life (I get your reasoning with this album), Watershed and My Arms your Hearse are my favorites. One of my favorite Bands
One of the greats for a good reason. I asked someone on the podcast once who will be the big name people in metal that will be remembered the same way the older generation talks about Ozzy, Lemmy, etc. Their answer: Akerfeldt
Great to see someone else who likes watershed.
Philip R underrated 🤘🏻
I kinda agree with this actually. Everyone around me even remotely into Opeth keeps telling me that Still Life is amazing....yet I cannot for the life of me focus on the music, it's a bit boring for me as well. And that is coming from someone who likes atmospheric black metal a lot.
Best Opeth albums are Morningrise and My arms Your Hearse for me
Based
S. Still Life, Blackwater Park, Watershed, In Cauda Venenum
A. Morningrise, My Arms Your Hearse, Ghost Reveries, Sorceress
B. Deliverance, Damnation, Pale Communion
C. Orchid, Heritage
S - Still Life, Blackwater Park, My Arms, Your Hearse
A -Ghost Reveries, Deliverance, Damnation, In Cauda Venenum, Watershed
B-Orchid, Pale Communion, Morningrise
C-Sorceress, Heritage
So glad someone put MAYH at a high tier cause that album is criminally underrated, There rawest / most consistent and basically where Opeth found there trademark sound... Kudos.
I almost disliked your video for about 2 seconds until I was like “let’s hear your opinion” and yeah, I understand that. A lot of people can’t seem to dig white cluster, moonlapse vertigo, and god heads lament so I get why it wasn’t your favorite. It was the last album to hear by opeth for me and it hit me the hardest and one of my fav of all time. Top 3 fav songs by them are bleak, drapery falls, and Moonlapse vertigo(not gonna hurt myself by trying to rank them). 2 out of three are from BP but I like every song on SL more than funeral portrait so yeah.
Not even 2 seconds I think. I think it was more instant thinking than that. I did end up liking it btw and subscribing and clicking the bell. I saw your comment on quest for metals tool album ranking video. And... you said messugar instead of Meshuggah I think.
Philip R Welcome!
I’ve also had a tough go with Still Life. I feel like it was a combination of it being the last classic Opeth album I heard, the fact that it’s held up so high by fans, and even the fact that it’s the predecessor to Blackwater Park, all of these factors left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. I still like it, but I can’t call it one of my favorites either.
Hi Philip :)
How’s it going Philip
Someone finally giving MAYH the credit it deserves! That alone makes this the best opeth tier list I’ve seen! Thank you for understanding
I started listening to Opeth heavily in 2008, so I'm a newer fan. They're one of my favorite bands ever:
S: Ghost Reveries - Still Life - Blackwater Park
A: My Arms, Your Hearse - Watershed - Deliverance
B: Damnation - Orchid
C: Morningrise
D: Pale Communion
S blackwater park
A watershed, still life, my arms
B ghost reveries, pale communion, deliverance, damnation
C morning rise, in cauda venenum, orchid, heritage
D sorceress
There are two tiers for me with Opeth. S-tier: Everything up to 2010 and B-tier: the 2010s stuff. It would be impossible for me to split it up anymore. I don't know how you did it, lol
Zubatticus Much effort 😂
13. Heritage
12. In Cauda Venenum
11. Pale Communion
10. Morningrise
9. Sorceress
8. Watershed
7. Damnation
6. Orchid
5. Deliverance
4. Ghost Reveries
3. Still Life
2. My Arms, Your Hearse
1. Blackwater Park
13. Heritage
12. In Cauda Venenum
11. Pale Communion
10. Morningrise
9. Sorceress
8. Watershed
7. Orchid
6. Deliverance
5. Damnation
4. Still Life
3. Ghost Reveries
2. My Arms, Your Hearse
1. Blackwater Park
My list:
S: Blackwater Park, Still Life, Ghost Reveries.
A: Damnation, Deliverance, My Arms, Your Hearse.
B: Watershed, Morningrise.
C: Orchid, the last four albums.
S - Blackwater Park, Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse
A - Deliverance, Damnation, Ghost Reveries, Morningrise
B - Orchid, Watershed
Haven't heard the others but they maintained a pretty solid discography for 9 albums
Despite disagreeing, you have respect for other opinions and you make yourself understood easily. I hope you keep growing
Thank you so much. I really do strive for that balance and yes, thankfully momentum is BOOMING right now. We should be hitting 5k at this rate around May if not earlier
1. Blackwater park
2. Ghost reveries
3. Watershed
4. Still life
5. Deliverance
6. My arms, your hearse
7. Damnation
8. In cauda venenum
9. Morningrise
10. Orchid
11. Pale communion
12. Heritage
13. Sorceress
S: Still Life, Deliverance, My Arms Your Hearse
A: Ghost Reveries, Blackwater Park, Damnation
B: Watershed, Morningrise, Pale Communion, Orchid, Heritage
C: In Cauda Venenum, Sorceress
Personally, my S tier is;
Ghost Reveries, Deliverance, Damnation, Still Life, My Arms Your Hearse, Blackwater Park, Watershed, Orchid, and Morningrise.
Worst to best for me....
13. Heritage
12. Pale Communion
11. Sorceress
10. In Cauda Venenum
9. Orchid
8. Watershed
7. Morningrise
6. Damnation
5. Blackwater Park
4. Deliverance
3. Ghost Reveries
2. Still Life
1. My Arms, Your Hearse
1: Still Life and Blackwater park
2: My Arms, Your Hearse
3: Pale Communion
4: Watershed
5: Sorceress
6: Ghost Reveries
7: Heritage
8: Damnation
9: Deliverance
10: In Cauda Venenum
11: Orchid
12: Morningrise
I completely agree with your list, my arms your hearse and Blackwater park have such a great atmosphere and its the two albums that I can lie down and listen to without getting distracted
1. Still Life
2. Ghost Reveries
3. Blackwater Park
4.Morningrise
5. Heritage
Top 5
Morningrise To Bid You Farewell was my intro to Opeth. Awesome way to start.
S: My Arms Your Hearse, Still Life, Blackwater Park
A: Ghost Revelries, Watershed
B: Orchid, Morningrise, Damnation
C: In Cuada Venenum, Pale Communion
D: Heritage, Sorceress
It's really splitting hairs for me what goes in S and A (and the order within), but here is my cut at it. I also don't "get" Still Life. It's just not what I reach for when I want Opeth. I listen to anything in B tier more than Still Life. I listen to ALL of B tier before Still Life. In Cauda for me is a lot like the new Tool album - I put it on when I am in the mood for a long uninterrupted, mellow listening through.
S: Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries
A: Deliverance, Damnation, Watershed, Pale Communion
B: Sorceress, Heritage, In Cauda Venenum, My Arms Your Hearse
C: Still Life, Orchid
D: Morningrise
That's the first honest tier list of Opeth I'd found online. Thank you so much
Ghost Reveries is my favorite. You have the extreme death metal and the prog. Ghost Reveries is my number 5 metal album overall and my favorite Opeth album. Good list.
Nice skull mask dude lol Opeth is my favorite bands. It’s cool to see that you agree with me on Still Life lol I gotta disagree with you on Damnation tho. It’s one of my S Tiers actually, but I loved hearing your opinion on it regardless. Also, I love their prog rock era just as much as their death metal era, but I do have to be honest here about the prog rock. It tends to sound like loops of short sections in longer prog metal songs. That’s really the only criticism I can give to Opeth’s prog rock era lol
Thanks for watching. I'll have to give Damnation a little more focus. In any case, plenty more of these and more to check out on the channel. Playlist in my other comment.
I truly don't understand people who don't get the feels from damnation. I literally borderline cry listening to every damn song on damnation but its quite interesting how opinions can differ so much
Different strokes is all
Hey I definitely agree with you in the sense that to me Still Life is overrated. I like it don't get me wrong. It's damn good. But Opeth has at least half or more of their discography that I would rather choose to listen to. Here's my Opeth Albums Ranked
From Best to Worst
#1-Deliverance (This was my gateway album from nu metal\metalcore to melodic death metal... Wasa good year between this and Damage Done
#2-Morningrise
#3-Blackwater Park
#4-My Arms, Your Hearse
#5-Ghost Reveries
#6-Orchid
#7-Still Life
#8-Watershed
#9-Sorceress
#10-Damnation
#11-Pale Communion
#12-Heritage
#13-In Caude Venenum
How is it even overrated? He barely explains what he dislikes
Good list. personally my favorite Opeth era is the early 2000's and I find myself always going back to Still Life, Black Waterpark, Deliverance & Damnation the most. It was the peak of their career imo. Just love that dark and poetic sound they had at that time. But I find something I like in the rest of their work also.
Black Waterpark🤭
Opeth has and is my favorite band they got everything for me prog rock and death metal they’re just mwa chef’s kiss when it comes to music
*S: Morningrise*
A: Orchid, Still Life, Ghost Reveries
B: MAYH, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation
C: Watershed, Pale Communion, In Cauda Venenum
D: Heritage, Sorceress
Their early albums played a big part in introducing me to the wonder of Metal, so I've always craved that melancholy twin-guitar trademark sound haha.
Still life is my favorite Opeth album…
You and everyone but me 🤷🏻♂️
13. Heritage
12. Morningrise
11. Sorceress
10. Orchid
9. Damnation
8. In Cauda Venenum
7. Pale Communion
6. Deliverance
5. Watershed
4. My Arms Your Hearse
3. Ghost Reveries
2. Blackwater Park
1. Still Life
13.- 7. changes for me often, depending on the mood.
S: Ghost Reveries, Still Life
A: Blackwater Park, MAYH
B: Damnation, Orchid, Deliverance, Pale Communion
C: Watershed, Morningrise, Sorceress
D: Heritage, In Cauda Venenum
F: None
Even Opeth's worst album is better than most bands best album. ICV may move higher at some point. It seems with their newer albums that I start out disliking them until I revisit it a few times over a couple years.
Glad to see MAYH in S. For me their most cohesive and well written album, their forgotten masterpiece
@NaPo7 MAYHs still sounds like their most complete album to these ears sorry to say, also not a dull moment on there, which i suppose is the case for all their albums, except blackwater park obviously
@@rockonthestone4907 Dude mayh is not a good album. Its not cohesive at all, just mashed up ideas like their previous albums before that. Their is some resemblance of what was to come but I don't get how its close to S tier
@NaPo7
Honestly, you're on some fine crack, dude.
I suggest you give it another SERIOUS spin.
Same goes for the guy above me.
@@Heatwave9000MAYH is nothing like the previous albums. It’s much heavier and they tightened the songwriting by a massive degree. It is much more cohesive than anything before it. It’s the album that effectively defined their signature sound that was continued and expanded upon through Watershed.
The Moor at C-tier is questionable at least ;) I feel like you're missing out on newer stuff as well, Opeth aging quite well even if I miss the cookie monster growl sometimes.
S - Blackwater Park, Ghost Reveries, Still Life
A - Deliverance, Damnation, Watershed, My Arms Your Hearse
B - Sorceress, In Cauda Venenum, Pale Communion, Heritage
C - Morningrise, Orchid
I still stand by it. I DO plan on doing a FULL discog update when they drop a new one.
"Masters Apprentices" is a certified Opeth Banger and should put "Deliverance" in B Tier at least, maybe even A-Tier. And no love for Damnation hurts every Opeth fan. "Death wispered a lullaby" is even one of the weaker tracks on it, compared with songs like "To rid the disease" and its haunting piano.
S(S)till life. 😏
Deliverance and Damnation were supposed to be a double cd album, but the label didn't like that idea, so I heard. Damnation is really good! The last album, sweedish version is also very good.
(I'm still rockin' that "...Beyond the Within" insane album! 6 tracks on it are among my enslaved favorites now.)
I mean they haven't made a "bad" album really
Honestly for me the ranking would be:
S tier: pretty much all the old albums with the exception of Orchid and Morningrise
A: Watershed. Love it, just not as much as the others
B: Morningrise, Orchid. Great albums but a bit inconsistent if you ask me.
C: Pale Communion and Sorceress. Love the "chill Opeth", just not really that much into the whole 70s prog music weirdness.
D. Heritage. I don't think it is bad, it has some really good tracks and I even love the bonus track (face in the snow) but the transition from metal to this type of prog rock was done very abruptly at the time and overall this album is the most inconsistent imo.
Unknown: In cauda veneum. I have listened to this album a few times and felt it is kinda decent. People say this is the best Opeth album since Watershed but honestly haven't listened to it enough times to fully digest it yet
haven't listened to Sussiest or Incarnates Vsauce yet
1. Still Life
2. Blackwater Park
3. Ghost Reveries
4. Deliverance
5. Watershed
6. Pale Communion
7. My Arms Your Hearse
8. Morningrise
9. Damnation
10. Orchid
11. Heritage
My list!
S
A Blackwater park, sorceress
B My arms your herse, Palce communion, ghost reveries
C Morningrise, Orchid, watershed, heritage, in cauda venenum
D Still life, deliverance, damnation
Sadly there is no S tier Opeth album in my mind. Blackwater park is close but really only 2 of the songs hit me all the way through. Bleak and Blackwater park. The rest is just not enticing all the way through and in my mind you need more than 2 out of 9 through and through bangers to get an S tier...
Like if the lepper affinity ended when the clean singing began and went straight into bleak i think the Leper affinity would have been one of my alltime fave Opeth tracks, but no it's got 6 minutes more the fucker xD
(Bleak and the title tracks are both one of my favorite songs of all time though no matter the band)
Sorceress is also incredibly close... just some songs are again as blackwater park... to long and too wierd. In my mind Opeth has never been that good at long songs and mostly flops it with just a few diamond corns sifting through from time to time. I know this is an EXTREMELY controversial opinion but Opeth has some of the best riffs but not the song structures to back them up. Is it only me who thinks this?
Hahaha! Not really much of a brave opinion i find it quite universal that Opeth rarely manages to put out a release that has the quality of songwriting running all the way through it, though taste is luckily subjective ;) I find Blackwater park to be a great album overall but not in S tier for me, that is reserved for the very best albums i have listened to and for me there is too many parts that just doesn't reach it's full potential. I can say i have listened to every single Opeth album probably at least 5-6 times, most many more so i am well aquinted with their discography. Even Deliverance and Damnation which i find the weakest of the bunch. Still life i would have bumped up if not for the production honestly.
I do agree the Damnation album got some damn good production and i do not listen to it for DM i will tell you that much xD Never been much of a fan of the Death metal in Opeth honestly, always felt it lacked a bit of punch, and i am also mostly a fan of Black and Trash metal, death metal just never really was my thing even though i have listened to tons of it! Though i could not put it CLOSE to any of the great floyd albums, i LOVE pink floyd and is in my mind maybe the best band to ever walk this planet, the musicianship is out if this world but not my favorite band though, though the wall honestly is not one of their absolute best it still is far beyond what is on Damnation. I am not the hugest fan of the depressing mood of Damnation at all, i do endulge in more depressive music to explore as much as i can but if i go for depressing moods i go for black metal most of the time xD
I would love to love the rest of Blackwater Park more, even though i am a HUGE fan of long songs, and for me the long ones are usually the best ;) One thing i have to say is i always had this small of a hate towards BP because honestly it's an album i want to love all the way through but it just looses my attention and i find myself not rewarded for the patience in the song. Like in the title track when the long pause comes it is really worth it everytime to soak in the whole part inbetween and really feel the reward when it hits you. The rest of the album i find has too many bland parts and just comes short of my criteria for S tier, though still a damn good solid A from me at least!
Yeah the first three albums got some slack but there is plenty to love on those ones to, just i think they never quite cleaned up their messy song structuring and often fail to carry themselves all the way through an album.
I almost always listen to music while paying close attention, most often i suck up multiple albums a week all the way from Prog rock to reggea to metalcore to black metal. I am simply a music fan and i do play alot of music myself and i always try to come in to an album and just take it for what it is, especially with bands like Opeth which i have always struggled to get into. I try my best to take these bands which don't hit me at once and try to relisten to the artist until i really get what they are about and understand as much as i can about their music and their sound, feeling and whatever else there is to explore in it! And i never really came to Opeth for the Death metal at all, i love the prog rock side of them the most which i found they took furthest on sorceress. It took me quite a long time to like that album as well as much as i do but there is just so much to dive into and so many awesome parts and changes plus quite intruiging lyrical content and i am a huge fan of it! My favorite probably just edging out Blackwater park by a small inch or two.
I went back and listened to Damnation a couple more times over the last days but it just doesn't quite do it for me, i might bump both damnation and deliverance a tier up to C after i have re-listened to them but that would be it for how high those would go for me.
I am also VERY strict with my rating and take them purely as a personal opinion and not as a subjective rating on how much i would think others like it. And i love my prog rock a bit more playfull and ubeat aswell ;) Like Rush is very much my style (and as mainly a drummer Neil Peart is just a blast of impressive shit through and through for me to listen to always) Sorceress got alot more of that playfull and experimental side and it was great to hear them go and try out alot of new stuff and i think they did it real good. It is quite heavy as well to be honest! Would recomend you giving it a go again aswell!
And i find Opeth to be somewhat of an enigma for me, a band i feel i should love through and through but just can quite not manage to love as much as i want to. My favorite band i can tell is Enslaved though which of course is a mix of mostly prog and black which is much more my style of long songs. Opeth i feel has ten minute longs songs with ten or more different parts and riffs and tons of changes while Enslaved is alot more huge and keeps the music and song structuring alot more streamlined and focues which just makes it pack alot more punch in my ears and i always feel rewarded even when they have the same riff going often for minutes straight. To each to one of their taste i guess!
Again, I love how people will downvote just because you don’t perfectly agree with their own opinions on album rankings. Very sad 😂
Jamie Horsley lol well I validate no one 😂 people seem to either love or hate the new Opeth one today
L33t metal heads love to gate keep.
Ivory_ Lagiacrus_YT 😂 oh Jamie
@@JamieHorsleymetalreactions Yeah man they always getcha
@@JamieHorsleymetalreactions Gore is the woooorst though lol.
I used to think blackwater park was better than Deliverance, but damn it's really grown on me, the guitar tone is no doubt the best
Damnation D tier? It’s a gorgeous album, one of the best albums they’ve made
D-D-Damnation but C-D-Deliverance
i personally think Ghost Reveries is the best followed up by Still Life and BWP on 2nd and 3rd place all in S tier
tbh nearly all opeth albums are S tier worthy
I respect your opinion but Still life Star ⭐️ 1 S for me. I feel you are a little unopen minded about ballads🔒 to me “Face Of Melinda” for example is one ☝️ of the best 6 Opeth tracks ever. Such a beautiful atmosphere inside !
I have no issues with ballads
I don’t have an issue with ballads. Sometimes albums just hit different. 🤷🏻♂️
@@MetalTrenches i respect . But you tell us to write ✍️ our opinions in the comment , and as a UA-camr with 12.500 subs sometimes I like to listen 🎧 other people . I appreciated your job. To me Still Life is really really good 🔥but of course it is about personal tastes in music every time
I see people astonished by some of your choices, but I find watching tier lists so fun because of that difference of opinion.
Blackwater Park isone of my favorites too and I also stopped listening to them after they became a 70s prog rock band. It's something my uncle would love but I'm not really interested.
Exactly. The differences make things more interesting for discussion imo. It’s so boring when everyone agrees
For some reason, My Arms, Your Hearse has never quite done it for me. I just have never been able to fully connect with it - awesome title, though. But from Still Life on through ghost Reveries, what a roll they were on! However, for me, Deliverance is where it's at. I know it was supposed to be "the heavy album," especially as compared to its would-be twin, Damnation, but I find the heavy/soft balance just right. And I love Damnation too - the perfect soundtrack to long, dark winter nights.
I don't think you have to be a die hard fan to enjoy Deliverance and Damnation - man 'b sides maybe says more about your taste for just heavy stuff than the many many excellent qualities that are actually in the music. I'd say 'solid' doesn't communicate much when you say it either. What does solid mean?
I agree with that take on respecting a band when they change genres, where their passion lies. I miss Older Leprous for instance, the TPS to The Congregation Era, however... I still listen to them. I respect the shit out of them wanting to do a more prog pop/rock style instead of prog metal/avante gard metal.
S tier - Morningrise, MAYH, Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Damnation, Ghost Reveries, Watershed
A tier - Orchid, Pale Communion, Heritage
B tier - In Cauda Venenum, Sorceress
Not my favorite band
Never got into Opeth, i'll have to give their early stuff more of a listen, that later stuff i've heard sounds like "girlfriend rock" and didn't really dig much of it (though I agree with your sentiment about artists being genuine and following their wants/ endeavors). I know Akerfeldt from Bloodbath, great Death Metal hands down.
Derek J. Try Blackwater Park. It’s the perfect entry album imo
@@MetalTrenches That's one I listened to that I didn't like lmao, I'm going to have to test the waters with the early early stuff.
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary Bruh... Morningrise.
@@forgemastermetal About halfway through listening to it, honestly not really getting into it, snapping from the more blackened melodic riffage and vocal side to the abrupt acoustic and girlfriend rock singing is throwing me off. Can't get into it, I respect it for what it is, but not my cup of tea.
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anything from Still Life to Watershed is S Tier for me. Can't stand their first few albums because of the poor songwriting and bad production. Their new rock albums are decent but sound contrived from 70's and 60's prog to me. Some of their newer songs don't sound like Opeth to me. Sorceress is their most overrated album to me, not Still Life.
I share your opinion on MAYH and Deliverance. MAYH has kinda muddy production but it's super catchy and arguably their most re-listenable album. Deliverance is not bad per se but it's not memorable at all.
Hard disagree on Still Life, Damnation and Ghost Reveries. Ghost Reveries is easily an "A" for its accessibility and production quality alone.
Still Life is my personal favorite but I can understand what you mean. I like the clean songs but some people might not and moonlapse vertigo is pretty forgettable.
Still Life to Watershed are my faves.
My opinion:
S: Deliverance&Damnation
A: Everything else
Get that Morningrise up in 'S' where it belongs lad :P
Watershed and blackwater park are my favorites.
You should do a Katatonia tier list!
I agree with you in your opinion on still life
We will be the two sane people in this crazy world lol
Great video, respect for not commenting on the prog-rock stuff. I cannot relate at all with the ‘new’ direction, and of course do not like it. You found a good compromise of simply not talking about it as it is not your thing.
Btw new subscriber!
Singles don't make a good album. The music does.
Ohh man Damnation at D tier? Each to their own but Opeth is at it's best when it comes to the more acoustic progressive rock songs imo. But like I said each to their own
To each their own indeed
You didnt list "My arms your hearse" in the timestamps.. I assumed it would go into the "haevnt heard/no opinion" tier, and I was about to get angry, lol. Thankfully it landed where it deserves to be
MAYH is definitely their best for me…
S - Ghost Reveries and Blackwater - the former is an immortal album for me; no question I'll still be listening to it in another 20-30 years
A - Damnation, Deliverance, and MAYH (as a newer fan of the band, the last one has REALLY grown on me over time)
B - In Cauda Venenum - this is the only new album of theirs that grabs me at all, but it does a great job of it in its own way, and I legitimately seek it out with recurring frequency
C - Still Life and Watershed - I think C fits for these, because I have so little to comment on here (aside from the combination of Coil into Heir Apparent being two of my favorite tracks of all time by them)
D - Morningrise and Orchid; I have tried so, so many times on these, and I still just can't get anything out of 'em, much though I wish I could
F - Sorceress, Heritage, Pale Communion - PC was so forgettable for me I actually had to google it. I don't actively despise this era, but man is it painful to listen to now, especially with how sloppy and inconsistent Heritage is.
The songs you think are the “big singles” (e.g. Beneath the Mire and the Funeral Portrait) and which are the “deep cuts” is hilarious
EVERYONE mentions those songs lol. Maybe it was unintentional, but this is the stereotypical big brain comment people make fun of this fanbase for.
I think I'm the only person who actually enjoys sorceress
I’m sure there are others out there
This album is really cool man
the audacity to put Still Life at C kills me
And even years later I’d do it again
Blackwater Park is my favourite
I dont want to be look pretentious but
The first three albums
Orchid (1995)
Morningrise (1996)
My Arms, Your Hearse (1998)
Are truly my favourite
Everything on these three albums are absolutely beautiful
Especially on Morningrise
●'Black Rose Immortal'
●'To bid you Farewell'
●'The Night and the Silent Water'
There's something about this era of opeth people don't rlly understand and that hurts me man
V underrated
Yeah, they had that atmosphere that the proceeding albums lacked.
I mostly agree, but I had to comment due to your Big Lebowski quote
Your B tier is my S tier, and your S tier my B tier.
It's not an album but I think The Drapery Falls is the single most overrated Opeth song. It just sounds so all over the place and incomplete to me, a severe lack of focus.
Most overated "metal band" of all time most of thire albums bore me to death, agree with your list pretty much anyway but i wuld change watershed to C and deliverence to A =)
13. Sorceress (3/10)
Easily their weakest. Some parts of Chrysalis and Strange Brew are ok. But Mikael basically admitted it was a favor for Nuclear Blast because they insisted on an album in 2016. I want to insult this LP but I respect Opeth too much for their legacy.
12. Pale Communion (4/10)
Prog Fans seem to like it but for me it sounds overproduced and soulless (That's why I don't like Prog Fans, nobody cares about production). Faith in Other and Cusp of Eternity save this album from being terrible.
11. In Cauda Venenum (4/10)
Sorceress but with better song writing, not really a fan. Also way too much Deep Purple worship. All Things Will Pass is a good closer and Continuum is solid.
10. Ghost Reveries (5/10)
Overrated and full of Dream Theater and Tool worship. I like Tool but DT is not good at all. Harlequin Forest and Isolation Years are good songs though but they already did it better before (White Cluster and Hope Leaves come to mind). My biggest gripes are 1.) too much keyboard and 2.) too much staccato riffs and 3.) it's overproduced and too planned-out.
9. Heritage (6/10)
Slither, Häxprocess, Famine and Folklore are solid the rest I can take or leave.
8. Watershed (7/10)
Fixed some of the Ghost Reveries issues but you could tell they were running out of ideas. Hessian Peel is the last Opeth song I fully endorse and it does some legwork for the album. Heir Apparent and Burden are solid songs as well. The rest doesn't do it for me.
7. Blackwater Park (7/10)
Half of the songs (The Leper Affinity, Bleak, Dirge for November and the title track) are among their best work. The rest never really clicked. It's a little too "planned", maybe because of Steven Wilson who I don't really care for.
6. Deliverance (8/10)
Fixed a lot of the problems I had with Blackwater Park, it's more spontaneous and consistend. The title track is overrated (still good!) but Wreath, A Fair Judgement and Master's Apprentices are highlights of their career.
5. Damnation (9/10)
The last of the truly great Opeth. Threw their well known songwriting out of the window but retained the darkness. I love it despite not being a fan of King Crimson/Pink Floyd worship (I like the bands but many Proggers succ them off a little too hard). And here I have to give Wilson credit. The mellotron is brilliant on this album. My only critique is that there isn't more of it and that really sums it up.
4. Morningrise (9/10)
THAT BASS. More folk oriented than usual but that's a good thing. This is the album Agalloch wishes to be. Some moments drag a little but the riffs are just sick (Advent, Nectar, Black Rose Immortal), so why would I care?
3. Orchid (9/10)
Underrated beyond belief. In Mist She Was Standing, The Twilight is my Robe and The Apostle in Triumph are among their best epics. Forest of October and Under the Weeping Moon are more than solid. Unique mix of Prog/Death/Black/Folk Metal and psychedelic elements.
2. Still Life (10/10)
The best of both Oldpeth in Midpeth. Has the song writing of Blackwater Park (without the bummers and the overproduction) mixed with the medieval elements of Orchid/Morningrise. Rightful classic. In my Top 20 metal albums.
1. My Arms, Your Hearse (10/10)
Maybe my favorite metal album ever (Katatonia's Dance of December Souls and Sacramentum's Far Away for the Sun are close) and in my top 3 best experiences with music. I like all songs on here. My favorites are April Ethereal (best Opeth song), The Amen Corner and Karma (extremely underrated) but really everything shines on here. Their song writing mixed with ethereal vibes: I don't think anyone, not even Mikael could replicated this LP even if they tried. I stop writing now because it makes me want to binge this album again and I want to retain its magic.
S tier - Blackwater park, sorceress, still life
A tier - my arms, morningrise
B tier - orchid, pale communion, in cauda venenum
C tier - heretige, ghost reveries
D tier - d&d
Ghost reverie’s in B tier? I strongly disagree, this is an S tier album hands down
Moonlapse Vertigo and Serenity Painted Death are Masterpieces wdym????
Still Life is C tier? My heart is having palpitations
Over an opinion… why?
@@MetalTrenches I speak figuratively lol. It is shocking though. How do you love MAYH and BP but dislike Still Life? Still Life is like a blend of both 🤷🏼♂️
Id say...and in fact Arkefeldt has said in interviews....that he has always loved progressive music and when writing for the band that influence is staring you in the face from the go in every composition somewhere....🧐I like what he says about heaviness too in his interviews. Heaviness is an attitude. Not any particular sound. I totally agree with him.
With you on the debut to a point. Got to it almost last (Morningrise was the last of them.) I think it's grown on me more than many others and is up there. I'm a Still Lifer😂 for sure but then I've never marked an Opeth album below 8/10 as I've just got into all of them at some point. I'd even say that's why they are the best band in the world.... especially with their recent steps in mind which I also adore. Their journey is for me the strongest progressively of any modern band.🤯😎
Spot on. The three newer albums are prog festival music.
Ain’t NO WAY you found Moonlapse Vertigo BORING man.. I don’t even like still life
Funny how people think that they know how I feel about something more than I do lol. Dunno what to say... different strokes is all.
Watershed is a MASTERPIECE!
Great stuff