What do you recommend for a Adult 5'8" 170lbs? And whats the difference between the RSF650 AND MX650, SX500? I'm looking to buy and not sure because the mx is 100 dollars cheaper. What ever I buy I will be Modding
Im 5'9 175 and the rsf honestly has a great riding position ive never been on a mx or sx but i imagine from the many many posts ive read that they have great leg room and seating position, definitely way better than my mototec when it was stock. But if you go with the mx or sx you get front spring forks which make the ride feel a bit better. The mx comes with a bigger front tire i cant remember but i think its 12 rear 14in front and the sx comes with both front and rear 12in. The sx has slightly shorter front fork but alot of people prefer it for modifying since the rear shock is mounted differently for more battery room. Where i live we dont have alot of riding options other than riding on the street so the rsf was a great option for me with the street bike style and street tires (no offroad trails near). Whatever way you go they all come 36v 650w so veryy slow but the upgrade options are huge on all of them. I guarantee youll have a blast whatever you decide 🤘 i personally would love to get my hands on a mx650 if i find one cheap on facebook market place. Hope this helps you a little if your on facebook join the group called modified razors there are so many cool builds and awesome people
@@EmxBrandon I have a MX650 and RSF650 . They are both fun bikes. I have upgrade suspensions on both and the Vevor 48v 2000w motor kits. I started at 52v and I'm now at 60v. With a light shunt mod. I weigh alot more then you and the bike carries me around 35 and I have hit 40 . Very fun. They both have a slightly different ride , but are great little bikes.
I had the xt60 lead already and just cut the ends and crimped the spade connectors onto it. You can buy premade xt60 leads on ebay/amazon if you dont have the means to solder then together 🤙
Hey Brandon, I've been watching a few of your videos here. Great content and keep it up. I do have a question however here as I have the same exact thing here currently on my RSF650. My question is how are you charging that battery currently. I tried via the stock port, and I think b/c the controller is a 36v controller it's not working well. Do you have some insight on that?
Hey thanks for watching 😁 so the battery i swapped in has seperate charge wires which i just zip tied to the swing arm for easy access. So i no longer use the stock charge port. But yeah there is a good chance the controller cant charge over 40v, but i cant say for sure. Does your battery have seperate wires for charging or does it share wires for charge/discharge
@@EmxBrandon I've got the same spare 48v 13ah Mototec battery you've got there. I guess chances are I've gotta just change out one of the battery wires for a plug that does work for charging. I was hoping now to have to lol.
@@geryang91 oh yeah i took the stock charge port out of the mototec and use it for the rsf now. Are you trying to use the charger the rsf came with to charge the 48v battery?
@@EmxBrandon I'm using an aftermarket 48v with an XLR plug to the stock RSF650 port, I'm pretty sure i just have to change out the controller, and or change out the other switch on that battery.
@@geryang91 have you tried bypassing the controller and just hooking up your battery charge wires straight to the charge port? Id have to take mine apart to see what all needs to be done
In this case where you can adjust the amps of the controller, adding gifher voltage would increase watts (volts x amps = watts) and you would end up consuming more energy. If you want to increase run time you need more amp hour (ah)
Hey man, I can't find an answer anywhere for this, probably cause it's a stupid question. Can I upgrade the motor and controller to something like 1000 watts to get enough power to wheelie without upgrading the battery? I'm guessing over volting it like this and just replacing the motor would work, right? Just looking to get at least 25mph and wheelies as cheap as possible...
Hey bro no worries man i dont consider that a stupid question 🤙 but yeah if you can find a 36v controller and motor kit you cam definitely get a little bit more power out of it, but for wheelies anything underpowered like this is extremely hard to keep up unless your a pro at holding a very small balance point. Even with my set up being stock motor and controller with a 48v battery it doesnt really have enough power to pull itself up unless i pretty much stop put my feet down pull the bike up and get it going first. In my opinion id say 48v 1500w is bare minimum to get 25mph and still be able to learn to hold wheelies. As far as replacing the motor youll have to find another brushed motor that will work with the controller but even then the motor will only run as hard as the amps the controller puts out
@@EmxBrandon thanks for the quick reply. Just confusing to see 1 $1000 scooters go 45mph but it'll cost almost that much to just do the upgrades, let alone purchase the bike.
@@bobbybrake119 i couldnt agree more man even something legit like the honda crf e2 or the husky or gas gas bikes are like 5 grand and probably dont even do 30mph it definitely sucks
@@bobbybrake119 to get real performance out of the rsf yes.. some guys will buy a 48v to 60v brushed controller and a battery to match but your pushing the limits of the stock motor. with my mototec fortunately the stock motor can handle a decent amount of power and is already a brusless set up so all i had to do was swap to a controller that put out 65 amp and it made a huge difference but with the rsf thats just really not the case. But i really dont see any other way to get more torque and a bit more top speed without atleast getting a battery to overvolt the rsf, like i said though my 48v is still really hard to wheelie due to lack of torque
unfortunately the only way to get rid of that would be buy a 48v brushed controller. But from my experience i rode mine like that for awhile and it didnt seem to hurt anything. And once you get that battery down to like 51v it stops making that noise. But when its fully charged it will squeak like that at take off or very little throttle
Honestly i mever really tested the range. But me and my girl ride around for over an hour with her on it pinned trying to keep up with me 😂 and it died right down the street so id say a good 15 20 miles if i had to guess
Sick bro! 😎🤙🏼
Thanks brotha 🤙
yo great vid! how far does it go and how long can it go before dying?
Maybe 10 miles
Nice job bro… your gf is gonna love that bike
We went for a mini ride yesterday she loves it! I shoulda thrown a cam in her head lol
Nice work bro….
Thanks brotha 🙏
What do you recommend for a Adult 5'8" 170lbs?
And whats the difference between the RSF650 AND MX650, SX500?
I'm looking to buy and not sure because the mx is 100 dollars cheaper.
What ever I buy I will be Modding
Im 5'9 175 and the rsf honestly has a great riding position ive never been on a mx or sx but i imagine from the many many posts ive read that they have great leg room and seating position, definitely way better than my mototec when it was stock. But if you go with the mx or sx you get front spring forks which make the ride feel a bit better. The mx comes with a bigger front tire i cant remember but i think its 12 rear 14in front and the sx comes with both front and rear 12in. The sx has slightly shorter front fork but alot of people prefer it for modifying since the rear shock is mounted differently for more battery room. Where i live we dont have alot of riding options other than riding on the street so the rsf was a great option for me with the street bike style and street tires (no offroad trails near). Whatever way you go they all come 36v 650w so veryy slow but the upgrade options are huge on all of them. I guarantee youll have a blast whatever you decide 🤘 i personally would love to get my hands on a mx650 if i find one cheap on facebook market place. Hope this helps you a little if your on facebook join the group called modified razors there are so many cool builds and awesome people
@@EmxBrandon This is the BEST explanation I've received. Thanx
@@juliovictorcardona2135 no problem anytime 😁🤙
@@EmxBrandon I have a MX650 and RSF650 . They are both fun bikes. I have upgrade suspensions on both and the Vevor 48v 2000w motor kits. I started at 52v and I'm now at 60v. With a light shunt mod. I weigh alot more then you and the bike carries me around 35 and I have hit 40 . Very fun. They both have a slightly different ride , but are great little bikes.
@@noce1071 i agree these bikes are a blast i wouldnt mind getting my hands on an mx650 one of these days 🤘
How far would a normal rsf650 go but with a 48v battery?
Depends on the ah of the battery, if you got a big 48v battery it could go pretty far.
Did you buy that xt60 to spade connector? I'm doing the same thing as you,but I don't have the tools to make the connected myself.
I had the xt60 lead already and just cut the ends and crimped the spade connectors onto it. You can buy premade xt60 leads on ebay/amazon if you dont have the means to solder then together 🤙
Hey Brandon, I've been watching a few of your videos here. Great content and keep it up. I do have a question however here as I have the same exact thing here currently on my RSF650. My question is how are you charging that battery currently. I tried via the stock port, and I think b/c the controller is a 36v controller it's not working well. Do you have some insight on that?
Hey thanks for watching 😁 so the battery i swapped in has seperate charge wires which i just zip tied to the swing arm for easy access. So i no longer use the stock charge port. But yeah there is a good chance the controller cant charge over 40v, but i cant say for sure. Does your battery have seperate wires for charging or does it share wires for charge/discharge
@@EmxBrandon I've got the same spare 48v 13ah Mototec battery you've got there. I guess chances are I've gotta just change out one of the battery wires for a plug that does work for charging. I was hoping now to have to lol.
@@geryang91 oh yeah i took the stock charge port out of the mototec and use it for the rsf now. Are you trying to use the charger the rsf came with to charge the 48v battery?
@@EmxBrandon I'm using an aftermarket 48v with an XLR plug to the stock RSF650 port, I'm pretty sure i just have to change out the controller, and or change out the other switch on that battery.
@@geryang91 have you tried bypassing the controller and just hooking up your battery charge wires straight to the charge port? Id have to take mine apart to see what all needs to be done
Does adding a higher voltage battery do anything to increase time range?
In this case where you can adjust the amps of the controller, adding gifher voltage would increase watts (volts x amps = watts) and you would end up consuming more energy. If you want to increase run time you need more amp hour (ah)
Hey Brandon what pin is the razor controller to battery
Im not sure what you mean? I show everything necessary im the video.
Hey man, I can't find an answer anywhere for this, probably cause it's a stupid question. Can I upgrade the motor and controller to something like 1000 watts to get enough power to wheelie without upgrading the battery? I'm guessing over volting it like this and just replacing the motor would work, right? Just looking to get at least 25mph and wheelies as cheap as possible...
Hey bro no worries man i dont consider that a stupid question 🤙 but yeah if you can find a 36v controller and motor kit you cam definitely get a little bit more power out of it, but for wheelies anything underpowered like this is extremely hard to keep up unless your a pro at holding a very small balance point. Even with my set up being stock motor and controller with a 48v battery it doesnt really have enough power to pull itself up unless i pretty much stop put my feet down pull the bike up and get it going first. In my opinion id say 48v 1500w is bare minimum to get 25mph and still be able to learn to hold wheelies. As far as replacing the motor youll have to find another brushed motor that will work with the controller but even then the motor will only run as hard as the amps the controller puts out
@@EmxBrandon thanks for the quick reply. Just confusing to see 1
$1000 scooters go 45mph but it'll cost almost that much to just do the upgrades, let alone purchase the bike.
@@bobbybrake119 i couldnt agree more man even something legit like the honda crf e2 or the husky or gas gas bikes are like 5 grand and probably dont even do 30mph it definitely sucks
@@EmxBrandon So to get real performance, battery+controller+motor is all a must huh?
@@bobbybrake119 to get real performance out of the rsf yes.. some guys will buy a 48v to 60v brushed controller and a battery to match but your pushing the limits of the stock motor. with my mototec fortunately the stock motor can handle a decent amount of power and is already a brusless set up so all i had to do was swap to a controller that put out 65 amp and it made a huge difference but with the rsf thats just really not the case. But i really dont see any other way to get more torque and a bit more top speed without atleast getting a battery to overvolt the rsf, like i said though my 48v is still really hard to wheelie due to lack of torque
Please send link for battery and other parts needed to make battery change
I dont have a link to the battery, and the stuff i used is basic stuff you can get at the hardware store or harbor freight
So you gave it 48V battery with stick controller and motor?
Yes exactly it makes a noise taking off but so far its been running no problem
I see a mototec on your pic whats the plans? Which one do you have 1500w?
Is there a way to fix that noise?
unfortunately the only way to get rid of that would be buy a 48v brushed controller. But from my experience i rode mine like that for awhile and it didnt seem to hurt anything. And once you get that battery down to like 51v it stops making that noise. But when its fully charged it will squeak like that at take off or very little throttle
@@EmxBrandon well I blew up my batteries 😂😂😂 guess I’m waiting for the 2 months for the electro and co kit. Damnit
Can you do a 72v setup. I don’t want to overpay these American companies
Ill be doing a how to on making your own kit very soon that will be good to plug a 48v to a 72v battery in so you only have to change the battery!
How’s the range
Honestly i mever really tested the range. But me and my girl ride around for over an hour with her on it pinned trying to keep up with me 😂 and it died right down the street so id say a good 15 20 miles if i had to guess