Does Amber Heard Have Borderline Personality Disorder? With Dr. Drew
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2022
- Megyn Kelly is joined by Dr. Drew, podcast host and addiction medicine specialist, to discuss borderline personality disorder, Amber Heard, and more.
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I disagree. SHE IS LYING AND SHE KNOWS IT. If she thought she was being honest, she wouldn't be smirking or taunting her "abuser". If she truly thought she was a victim, she would behave like one. She absolutely knows she's being dishonest.
💯 man we can’t let people like her roam freely and continue to abuse people and society in general! God has a way of bringing these people to light and don’t be fooled for once she does not know what she is doing !! Loook at all the people she has abused in her life ! My gawd !
Absolutely 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I completely agree 110%!!! True victim’s are being mocked and being exploited by AH, she is obviously lying, she has the words like she got them from actual victims but her actions and reactions are not in line with her words!!! She’s the obvious aggressor in this relationship & it’s as if she was truly trying to push him to self-destruct! In my opinion she pushed & pushed him to his breaking point, but rather than overdose or harm himself he walked away & she couldn’t get to him….so she concocted the train wreck probably believed he would give her everything she demanded to keep his life private and avoid mass embarrassment! She’s a psycho!!
Exactly!
Very true and exactly she knew very well she's lying.
She was lying and she knew it. She changed her story several times to fit her lies. Please, don't let her fool you or anybody else.
you misunderstood what doctor said ... he never said she was not lying ... he said in her head she was not lying ... and she can have different stories that she believes how it happened in that time ... so today she believes it happened like this, tommorow she will believe it happened like that ... thats what that illness is about ... you live in another world outside of reality and you see it as reality ... lying requires intent ... if you believe it happened like THIS, everybody around you see you as liar but for you, you are telling thruth ...
Great point. Fully agree!!!
Meghan Markle is Amber Heard 2.0! 😏😏
@@desres2281 2.0? No I don't think so, how many people has Meghan trued to destroy exactly?? I'm no fan of hers by a long stretch but she isn't even in the same league as Scamber Turd
@@jackwhitbread4583 That's where you're wrong Jack!
She tried and is still trying to destroy the British Royal Family with, amongst others, accusations of racism, which have been proven to be lies!
She stated on international TV to 50 million viewers that her son didn't get a Prince title because of the colour of his skin!! That's an absolute lie, her son is not entitled to a Prince title, in accordance with Royal protocol, until his Grandfather becomes King!
The woman is an outrageous liar who not only lied 18 times on TV, but also perjured herself in the High Court in London in a sworn statement!
She's on a par with Heard, Markle is just warming up, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg! 😏
I believe she knows what she is doing period.
Exactly
I donno. She seams like she believes her own lies and it’s rather sad.
I think you're right. She cooked up all these lies to squeeze Johnny for moolah.
Period
I do to
She literally lied about donating money to sick kids 🙄🙄
Exactly nothing personality disorder about that
But she says it's the same as pledge. ☝️
AH: I wanted nothing. 😉
The donation thing happened AFTER the alleged rape, and thus has nothing to do with whether Heard committed defamation or not. The donations are just what you guys use to distract from the actual physical evidence in the case (like the photo of Amber's cheek bruise).
The timing of her getting insurance to indemnify her for defamation proves her actions were malicious & not a result of her distortion of reality.
Oh she planned this all out. It was no accident. That's why insurance should not pay out. It's premeditated. Like you can't take out an insurance policy on someone then kill them.
I agree
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You know that insurance coverage renews every year, right? Just because the start date of the policy started before her editorial doesn't mean she just got the policy. Not enough is know as to whether the insurance policy was new or a renewal of an existing policy.
Even if that is true it doesnt prove anything. We live in a litigious age. Wise to be cautious when battling a big man in Hollywood
If she truly believed it she wouldn't have to create evidence or edit photos to convince anyone she was telling the truth. Because she believed it was real. That shows intent and intentional malice in my book.
Excellent point!
Exactly
Of course! This Dr. Doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Exactly. And she wouldn't have to fake her emotions. She wasn't crying, she was faking and kept contradicting herself. That's lying.
@Dark Priestess Of course she knows she is lying and deceiving. But she really believes she is justified because of the terrible things (she thinks) JD has done to her. We also need to remember that a British Judge believed all her over the top stories about JD’s abuse
Anyone who takes a dump in my bed is not “borderline” they are full “personality disorder”…
You got that right.
Yes, they are/ have a personality disorder that is on the borderline to psychotic …
Borderline Personality Disorder IS a personality disorder. Don't let the name confuse you
😂🤣😂🤣
Borderline means on The border of psychosis and neurosis. She has all criteria for borderline but possibly psychopath or sociopathic personality disorder.
It is truly scary that people like this exist, and then they try to destroy peoples lives. It’s sad.
I agree with you Meghan. As far as BPD, HPD, NPD etc go… keep a wide berth and play grey rock so you don’t attract these personality types.
Don’t care what the doc says regarding being understanding to these types .. all they do is reap havoc on others lives.. they’re broken and can’t be fixed.. not about to feel sorry for them or make allowances for them.
IMO JD treated AH like a princess and she still (is) fkd him over.
That's true ,nothing wrong with Amber,except lies
Sounds like Megan Markle as well.
@@hsmd4533 yes, agree. They never tell the truth. I had a parent like that. Everything was manipulation.every word was a distortion of reality.
It happens A LOT!
Sorry, I'm not buying it for a second. She's fully aware of what she's doing. There is even audio of her telling Jonny of her master plan. She explains in detail about taking pictures over the years and making them line up with certain dates. She goes on to say how she's going to fake bruises, and such with makeup. Than proceeds to tell him how she's going to sit on it all for a few years. He said your accusing me of doing things that I never did. She says, I didn't say you did them. She's not that damaged.
She's just that evil!
I listened to that recording and almost threw up. I’m surprised that wasn’t brought up during the court case. Maybe it was but I missed it. Poor Johnny put up with so much from his mother and then he marries her. Any man would be nuts to get into a relationship with her after all of her lies, manipulations, sneaking.
@@lifeisgood7740 I envision an older less appealing form of her former so called glamorous self. I've happened to have seen her acting in the Stepfather movie which was nothing at all to praise nor find either charming or believable.
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Agreed!
Do you have a link to it? I thought I had listened to them all.
@@lifeisgood7740 can you share a link? That is horrifying, my God she’s a psychopath
If she truly wasn't lying, then she would of cried real tears while sobbing, but she didn't. As her acting coach said, Amber crying real tears while acting was simply out of her range.
Is it possible she suffered so much abuse that all her tears were used up. I mean it's not an unlimited supply of tears so you. ☝️
@@jonfreeman9682 Her coach said she easily cried except when she has to cry for an act.
@@jonfreeman9682 You are right but people who lost their ability to weep would they wipe not existing tears away? I don't think so.
@@jonfreeman9682 No, it is not possible she suffered from abuse. She has ZERO evidence. She was the abuser.
Goodness, my Psychiatrist actually suggested I read a book called, "The Sociopath Next Door". It's a very easy read. BUT...for ppl who can't EXPERIENCE empathy, which I DON'T THINK AH IS CAPABLE OF, counseling/therapy ACTUALLY only makes them worse. B/C what they on one hand have VERY LITTLE IMPULSE CONTROL, if they become ENRAGED!!!!! HOWEVER...they are incredibly calculating & can be smart, & incredibly deceitful & manipulative. AND why counseling ACTUALLY doesn't help BUT can make them worse, is if they lack the ability of 'EMPATHY', they use what they learn in sessions to FURTHER MANIPULATE OTHERS and TO MIMIC EMPATHY because they are INCAPABLE of showing REALLY EMPATHY!!!!!
She was provoking JD and sneering and laughing at him. That is conscious and deliberate in my opinion. Some abused people become abusers - they need a fight - they need to win a fight. They will never let go and even if you give in they are not happy!
Yes that audio was scary. Her laugh sends shivers down my spine. Hard to imagine how Johnny put up with that for so long. Finally he had enough.
@@jonfreeman9682 yes & thank goodness. But clearly she has her fake teeth now stuck firmly in the lawyers pay cheque profiteering business and cannot get them un stuck! 🤣 At least JD has moved on and the legals can make more and more money from her which will keep her occupied for the rest of her life. I laugh 🤔but she really should probably be spending the money on proper care and spending time learning how to really love by looking after her daughter. Just my opinion of which I have many. 🙂
No no no she was definitely lying let's be real here
I think some parts of her story was delusional but most of it was lying.
@@skate3062 it was all premeditated. Especially with reports out now that she took the insurance policy that covers defamation lawsuits, she planned her article to come out day before Aquaman. This was a vile evil plan by her.
@@skate3062 same thing....its lying 🤥
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The only truth was when Amber Heard said her name was Amber Heard.
In terms of BDP, like he says a distortion isn’t technically a lie.
If she believed her lies then she would have cried when “reliving” these horrific acts she accused JD of… nope- sorry, Doc… not this time. Watch the trial- the WHOLE trial! She’s lying to basically save her life bc she has been found out and she has to lie to try to get out of this…
I agree
She needs to be held accountable
Am tired of the excuses she is getting
Exactly 💯 👏👏👏
@Ulrika Lundgren Yes. BOTH can be true. Delusionality AND intentional lies.
Not everyone is obligated to cry at the moment you expect them to cry.
Worked with women with borderline personality disorder. It was extremely difficult. The lies, always wise to have another with you for a witness. It was wild!
I agree. My BPD husband and I were in therapy. The doctor asked him why he lies. His response was that his dad used to lie to his mother. Not go to work and go to his brother’s house for the day. So, I approached my husband’s brother once and asked if his dad used to do that. He said he didn’t know what I was talking about. His dad never did that! So, he was lying to the therapist. My therapist in a session only with he and I handed me the book “I Hate You, Don’t Leave Me.” They are God awful. What great reading. Spot on. Narcisism and BPD are quite similar in many ways.
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Don’t give her any wiggle room. She would use even this to portray another self image to get out of all this. She’s a narcissist and potentially histrionic too. She has a mixture of group B traits
Totally agree.
She was diagnosed with both Histrionic and Borderline Personality, and narcissistic, psychopathic! She is one seriously messed up person (allegedly)!
@@cindydavis3676 love the allegedly. No legal responsibility with one word lol
AH's condescending arrogance, deception and contempt was so transparent on the stand and in the court room. I can't believe they put her on the stand twice.
It was an excellent strategy for her to go on twice. They knew she would just keep digging herself deeper and deeper with the lies, the defensiveness, the hostility and the clear inability to take responsibility for anything even when she hears it on the tape. They let her do herself in, by her own hand. Seamless.
I disagree with the guest's statement "not lying." This personality type knows what they are doing. They are very charming and smart but act "dumb" when cornered. This personality type has been through trauma and they have a distorted view but very much aware of their behavior.
I'm guessing he didn't watch the entire trial.
C L...You are correct!
@@Angela-el3gp and @C L You may be right that Amber Heard in particular knows what she's doing, but Dr. Drew is correct that people with the Borderline Personality type experience delusions ("distortions") that they genuinely believe to be true. That's where the name of the disorder comes from: delusions so severe patients seem on the "borderline" of schizophrenia. - AH showed in the audio that she equates emotional distress with physical abuse. So I personally think it's plausible that she deluded herself about part of it then used that to justify her INTENTIONAL, cruel and selfish lies.
false sometimes we are not aware at all of our behavior until after the damage is done, then the extreme guilt sets in hence self harm behavior.. hence the fear of abandonment hence the despret cries of what seems like manipulation. when in reality in the moment we are blind. its a sad cycle but can be managed
but speaking directly about amber yes she knew what she was doing
Come on now … everything AH was a lie … she set this all up and was the abuser ! Do t give her any credit here
I totally agree. Dr. Drew is making excuses. She 100% knows she's lying. If she truly thought of herself as a victim, she would behave like one. She's smirking and taunting the man she's "terrified" of. C'mon people. Wake up. She is smarter than he thinks.
Most people haven’t actually had someone like this in their lives. You can’t understand it. They literally believe the skewed reality in their own head. In their head, they aren’t lying. And then the more they are confronted, the more they have to believe that their version is right and they double down and fight to the tooth for it.
@@OakwiseBecoming well people like this need to be stopped at allllll cost and be held accountable like the rest of us ! Prison will help her get the help she needs !
Shhh aua, one of the physicists said probably these things DID happen to Amber, just not by Johnny. That's why she can say this with a straight face. sad that someone rapped her with a liquor bottle before. But she tried as hard as she could to destroy his life, and if the trial wasn't filmed it might of worked.
She is just an evil demonic person
Dr. Martin, a Handwriting Analysis Expert, said there are many therapy professionals who won't take a client diagnosed with BPD. They are just that extremely difficult.
They're impossible to deal with. They live in a reality distortion field and you can't talk with them without blowing up into an argument.
Yep, shrinks say BPDs are the hardest ones to help.
I believe them, but not all psychiatrists specializes in BPD. Mine does. He's actually one of the rare ones who do here in Quebec and his team and programs are amazing. It helped me tremendously and today, my symptoms have decreased alot and life is so much better for me...and the people around me 😄😄.
@@jonfreeman9682 I understand your frustration.
Amber knew exactly what she was doing from the first kiss in The Rum Diaries, to alerting TMZ and photoshopping pictures, creating fake bruises......Shall I go on?
I think she started plotting well before that 1st kiss. When she she went for auditioning, I think she had already set her sights on him. She had reserched him thoroughly so that by their 1st meeting they discovered they had common interest like books, poetry etc. JD mentioned this in the trial.
She pursued Johnny for his fame and money. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the reason causing breakup with Venessa.
She took up space in Johnny's brain long ago.she is very dangerous every one around her.
@@melanieinhobson3595 yes he did she probably researched anything he found interesting
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She loves to fish. She threw out the fishing rod and Johnny bit. It wasn't about Johnny. ( in this point She lied AND said the Truth... it had could be anybody... It was nothing personally. That's way she also threw out a 2nd and a 3rd fishing rod without allowing him off the hook first. The main thing is rich and a lot of glamour.
I'm sorry, but she knew she was lying. If she didn't know then there would nave been no doctored photos, no word games between "hit" and "punch" or "pledge" and "donate". She had several visible instances of " duper's delight". He is wrong here. I trust Dr. Curry in this.
I realized how manipulative and calculating Amber was ... when she willfully chose to release potentially damaging information about Depp to the Public ...
1- On the day after Johnny Depp's mother's funeral ... a person he had a very close relationship with - was the day Heard 'chose' to file for divorce
2- A few days later - by no coincidence - ON THE SAME DAY AS THE MEMORIAL DAY OPENING OF DEPP'S $170 MILLION BIG BUDGET MOVIE -"THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS" - Heard INTENTIONALLY filed for a restraining order against Depp ... along with accusations of abuse and accompanying PHOTOS of "her bruises".
Needless to Say with all the negative press against Depp .... the Box Office numbers for this 'family" film were rather dismal ... in no small part because the press was obsessed with Heard's allegations of abuse against Depp.
A lot of people were dependent on the income generated by that movie - but all Heard cared about was being as destructive and damaging as possible to Depp when carefully choosing the timing for those allegations of abuse.
There weren't any doctored photos, there was just a nonsensical claim that the bruises were faked. The donations happened way after the alleged abuse, and thus could have nothing to do with whether Heard committed defamation or not.
YES! YES! YES is the answer. I saved my brother from a woman like her. He eventually divorced her. She had BPD. She wanted to fight all day long and constantly looked for a flaw in the relationship which fueled all of their fights. They always feel like they are getting blamed as they do nothing but blame their partners. People with BPD use their spouses as a punching bag. Relationship with a BPD has a lot of sweet and deep moments that cause you to not be able to leave the relationship so you continue to get abused until you finally see the pattern. These people are impossible to treat. My brother's ex-wife had 6 therapists that did nothing but ghost her after 3-4 sessions. They don't change. They are so hard so deal with. So much anger and resentment for NO REASON. Run away!!
Good for you getting him away from her. 💖💖
It's funny since everyone knows the truth about Johnny and Amber's marriage, suddenly everyone has experienced the same situation, Lol
@@marcyduvey2529OH YEAH? Exactly what a person with Borderline Personality Disorser would say.
My mother is undiagnosed BPD. She is never happy, the only thing she thrives on is fighting and screaming, but if I ever responded to her in the same tone she’d act like she’s the victim. I always thought she was a pathological liar for the way she would present our problems, but it’s her sick perception and BPD. She truly believes she is the victim. I had to cut her out of my life for my personal sanity
I know exactly how that feels. My ex was the same way. It's always your fault and the whole world has to be a certain way or they blow up. I wonder if there's any treatment to that. I'm thinking with age and maturity this flaw goes away and people become more grounded. So maybe that's why they say in a marriage you gotta get past the first couple years when you get to know each other and as you mature you settle into a great relationship and those faults fade away. I could be wrong but I think most older relationships work better for that reason. There's less BPD and other mental health issues as we get older. In other words we become better persons. ☝️
I think it’s more of a narcissistic personality disorder thing that’s going on with Amber.
There are a lot of similarities between bpd and npd.
It’s her lack of empathy and regard for others.
Also, my sister has BPD and is currently dating a narcissistic sociopath.
To me the fact that a child that will be raised by someone with all these issues is beyond disturbing. This woman has a one yr old child.
Poor child 🙏🏼
The only problem that child will have, is growing up the child of a person who was demonized by millions of people who chose to ignore the evidence in its mother's case.
My questions remain the same as day three of the trial---who is protecting the child, and when is CPS going to step in and remove the child?
That is so callous so cruel. You really want to destroy this woman
Why is he making excuses for her…if she wasn’t lying consciously then why was she constantly colluding with her friends and family and gaslighting her ex husband. What a load of rubbish this is. Why did her stories constantly change if she wasn’t trying to cover her own tracks. Why was she constantly, secretly filming her ex husband if she had no intention of trying a number on him when she decided she wanted out? Why have so many people turned against her? Multiple accounts of her being cunning and divisive to people she is meant to care about, nasty to wait staff or anyone she considers unimportant. This woman is a physcopath.
While I agree with your overall point, let’s not throw around terms like “psychopath”. The correct terminology would actually be Anti Social Personality Disorder, which I do not think AH has. She most likely has a comorbid combination of NPD and BPD, which in terms of behavior can be reminiscent of ASPD.
YEA...I started writing from my experience. B/C I was actually triggered by him!!!!! I wasn't going to say anything. I was okay with him explaining certain things. BUT...suddenly he was talking like as if she was the victim, NOT of Johnny but by her upbringing. AND...I KNOW my Psychiatrist certainly WOULDN'T HAVE AGREED with ALL he said. I started to write a response. BUT...it got to long & I got lost in the weeds & need to edit it more. BUT...I'm too tired, right now.
Having worked with people with Cluster B disorders for many years, I can tell you with certainty that these disorders are far more complex than Dr Drew can explain in 10 minutes. And there are many many variations and overlapping of these disorders. I believe in her case there was a mixture of lies and the truth. One thing that people with BPD will do is really ramp up a display of emotion to get people to believe them because they learned as children that that was the only way to get attended to in a family dynamic that doesn't recognize your needs, for a variety of reasons. But of course she was also motivated by the price she knew she would pay if she lost this case. So it's complicated.
@@sheribellagee9998 I would like to add as we had my mom committed for all the ways we ALL at some level were abused by mother, but seeing my Dad become a victim was the worst. HE MADE A LOT of GENERALIZATIONS!!!!!! BUT...I often talked about it with my Psychiatrist for decades but off & on and it became MORE INTENSE when suddenly we feared for my father's safety!!!!! In one meeting, it was ACTUALLY a Psychiatric Nurse who ANSWERED a question that always bothered me!!!!! AND...in a same way, with a Dad who was FAR FROM ABUSIVE and LOVING would feel angry when he'd hear, that someone raised in an abusive situation AUTOMATICALLY means they will become abusers themselves!!!!!! THIS SIMPLY IS NOT TRUE.
BUT...my struggle for years, was 'MENTAL HEALTH' seemed to be used as an excuse for ABUSE or far worse crimes done to others. That-that somehow makes them not held accountable in anyway. I remember in one family meeting with the professionals without my mom's presence, I asked this question. The Psychiatric Nurse ACTUALLY was the MOST HELPFUL and DIRECT. Immediately, she responded, "WE DON'T TAKE IT. YOU DON'T TAKE IT!!!!" And went onto say that they had signs all over the ward, SAYING THEY WOULD NOT TOLERATE ABUSE!!!!!!
@@tammyboon6259 I'm glad that psychiatric nurse validated the bottom line in such a clear way for you about abuse from someone with mental illness: "WE DON'T TAKE IT. YOU DON'T TAKE IT!!!!"
It doesn't matter how mentally ill someone is. They do NOT have the right to hurt other people!
I'm sorry for what you experienced and are still dealing with because of your mother. Wishing you peace and healing!
I love that Megyn Kelly is all about telling us how nuts scamber is. She is the only media person I've seen telling the actual truth. The others twist things so badly it's sickening. Thank you Megyn Kelly for speaking truths!!
You don't know what the hell you're talking about
Megyn Kelly gave James Alefantis a softball interview. She's bought and paid for. Heard's bruises were not faked
If that’s her perception, then boy oh boy, a lot of people who potentially come into contact with her are at risk for being accused of all sorts of things. Yikes!
Well, nobody is perfect 🙂
And guess what, I’m nobody 😉
Darling here is a butter knife for your bread.
Heard: He tried to kill me.
That's the main reason why she most likely will never do another movie going forward, no male actor is going to want to be around her let alone be alone with her knowing that there's a good chance that she’ll accuse them of something horrific.
absolutely! Probably why Kevin Costner told her to take off when she went into his movie trailer naked. He was smart and didn't fall for her sneaky acts.
@@barrywhite8747 and no female actress wants to be spat on.
Lol. Don’t be fooled. Amber is VERY smart and very crafty. As is the team working behind her. She knowingly weaponized DV…she’s terrifying.
She did. Her mistake was she didn't have the evidence to back it up. If she had just one doctor's appointment to confirm her abuse and testify she would win. That's all she needed. One doctor's testimony and it's a slam dunk.
I’m with you on everything you said except ‘... is VERY smart...’. No, she isn’t. If I had to guess, I’d put her IQ at 90-95. In other words, she’s a dim bulb. She’s learned how to manipulate people using sex, violence, and gaslighting. However, she is completely uneducated (high school dropout), and doesn’t have the intelligence - or intellectual curiosity - to educate herself (many high school dropouts go on to educate themselves to a very high degree). This is one of the reasons (of MANY, I have no doubt) that Johnny told her he was embarrassed of her (‘parakeet’ floors?!! 😂). To her narcissistic self, this would have thrown her into an uncontrollable rage. She is dangerous. She is a psychopath. She is STUPID.
Amber could EASILY manipulate Dr. Drew. He is a fool.
Not smart at all. She's clearly undereducated and unintelligent. Maybe crafty. Definitely deluded.
Not smart enough tho...She hung herself
I love Dr. Drew. I grew up in Pasadena, not far from Las Encinas the Psychiatric Hospital he worked at. He also treated a friend of mine. NOBODY knew about her childhood abuse (except me) because I was over at her house alot. As kids, we kinda thought it was normal. What could you do? Her father used to beat the shit out of her. She had 4 siblings, and NO FOOD IN THE HOUSE! Too proud to apply for food stamps. Probably didnt have them back in those days. Her mother worked full time as a waitress, and when my friend was like 8-9 she had to take care of the kids, no food in the house, so they would make friends in the neighborhood, and try to get food. As a 66 year old woman, I can stand up for my friend, Dr. Drew believed her, THANK GOD! If he ever had any doubt, I could tell him first hand.
Dr. Drew will believe anybody who pays him money.
Evin IF she doesn’t THINK she’s lying she’s still a grown woman and her personality disorder doesn’t excuse her destruction to others
She might actually believe her own lies. This sounds like a mental health issue. ☝️
Truth.
I, too, have borderline personality disorder...discovered years ago by a knowledgeable psychiatrist. I worked hard to understand my past and become healthier through hard work. I NEVER beat my husband or children, never sued anyone, never used drugs, never committed any sort of crime. I have deep and loving relationships with my family. I believe that excusing terrible behavior to others as a natural consequence of BPD is destructive to the patient and the people around them. I believe that Amber Heard knows exactly what she's doing. Megyn, please find a therapist who is less in love with himself AND celebrities to go on air.
As another BPD , THANK YOU for mentioning that not all of us act the same way and can still be good people. 👍
BS so you think she should get away with this. I am so tired of people making excuses for people doing the wrong thing. I wish we could lock her up for many many years.
I think she does have a mental illness, she also knows exactly what she is doing but i don't feel sorry for her and its all her fault...its so deep, manipulative and crazy, but unless you've delt with someone like this...its truly damaging mentally to the person having to deal with this kinda person..feel bad for johnny..having to deal with his mom and his ex-wife
The doctor also testified, that Heard, exaggerated the symptoms.
and the other dr that was his witness noted that Heard spoke of Depp's violence and abuse while Depp was present and he never denied it! She also saw Heard a lot longer and disagreed with Curry
@Bewitch the Moon So did her and Depp's mutual doctor... she tested and said she did not have it!
@@truthofthematter9409 It's not so much a matter of how much time you spend doing a forensic workup on someone, although you do have to spend some time. It's whether you use the correct tools and do it correctly. Dr. Curry came across as knowledgeable enough and spent enough time to do a proper evaluation. If you don't know what you are doing you may spend a ton of time at it, but it's time that is wasted. As someone with a degree in clinical psychology who has worked extensively with ex-cons, Heard's psychologist came across as a second semester psychology who thought she knew a whole lot more than she did.
@@truthofthematter9409 That same Doctor, also stated, that Heard, would talk over Depp, whenever he tried to speak (Classic behaviour of an abuser).
You remember that bit, or is it not convenient?
No doubt she exaggerates everything but there are some claims that sounds like flat out lies.
Psychiatry is mostly BS
I am absolutely sick of hearing about Amber Heard
Frankly I think she more is more likely a malignant narcissist i.e. high levels in both narcissism(NPD) & sociopathy(ASPD). The sadistic ways she tormented Johnny for her personal gain as well as relentless trying to flip the script to keep her fake glory during and after the recent lawsuit show classic signs of malignant narcissism!
Words like narcissism and and sociopathy are used so lightly and mindlessly these days
@@Jeffrey314159 Except that I'm actually observing as someone who has personally survived abuse from multiple narcissists & sociopaths. You're patronizing the wrong person here.
@@jmwoods190 having multiple diagnosis is not unheard of. she might have npd traits. she craves attention and she publicly became a dv survivor..... when she was the abuser. that says a lot about her.
@@jmwoods190 she literally lied about donating money to sick kids....that is not bpd, I tell you that. she is really messed up.
I think BPD is over diagnosed in women when women actually have narcissistic traits. I also think BPD and NPD can be co morbid.
she admitted on recording that she made it up because she and her friends were going to be evicted in 21 days. she was lying. she may have some disorders, im no doctor; but she knew what she was doing. she lied theres no if ands or buts about it.
She did? I don't remember a part in the audio where she admits to anything. Are you sure?
@@jonfreeman9682 Yes, there is audio of her telling JD that a reason she filed for a TRO was because she thought he would kick her out of the penthouse. JD had been out of the state for four days before she got the TRO and was scheduled to be on tour for a month. There was no need whatsoever for a TRO. Then she violated the TRO when she went to his hotel room in San Francisco begging him to touch her and hold her. At that point the TRO was null and void. They judge threw it out with prejudice meaning she cannot file any more restraining orders against him. But JD needs a lifetime restraining order against her!!
@@marquitamarina1486 I recall listening to an audio of their San Francisco meetup and was thinking like what gives. She files a TRO then begs him to meet her in a hotel then secretly records the meeting on her phone without Johnny knowing! This girl is dangerous. She secretly records everyone. 😨😲
@@jonfreeman9682 sorry just seeing this! Yes there is a recording where she admits it. There’s also been another recording leaked out where she also admits that she would paint on bruises to corroborate her allegations.
@@jonfreeman9682 honestly, her game is controlling people by holding stuff over them. I wouldn’t be surprised if she had plans and hopes that Johnny would give in that night and then turn around and say he SA’d her - and then she would use the recording to prove it. Obviously that didn’t go to plan. Thank god.
I love how people continue to say "well, one psychiatrist said she is narcissistic, hers didn't". The difference? Dr. Curry actually thoroughly conducted tests on her, Dr. Hughes simply went on her word.
Not true at all. Hughes went over all of the tests she performed and the reason for her conclusions! lol
@@truthofthematter9409 Dr. Hughes was alarmingly biased towards battered women in her testimonies, though.
@@truthofthematter9409 which is why her form was literally missing data, lol!
What he said about being in a room alone with female patients is pretty accurate. But some individuals definitely are lying because they admit it later, usually smiling or laughing about it. Typically people with BPD have suffered quite a bit, but unfortunately some providers use this to insist that they never have awareness of their own behavior. They don't always, but are capable for the most part. This is what needs to be built on if the BPD behaviors are ever going to stop!
Also, this coming from the man who X-Rayed Courtney Stodden's breasts on live television. I don't know, can't get over it. It was consensual but she was like 16 years old and clearly not mentally well.
I didn't see the breast x-ray you reference, but this is actually the first clip with Dr. Drew I've listened to in well over a decade because I was so disgusted in one of his earlier shows by the apparent RELISH in his voice when discussing the lack of sexual boundaries some women who were abused as children can have. It was utterly repulsive, and made more so by the fact that an actual abuse survivor had called into the show asking for help(!!!). Vile, DISGUSTING man, in my opinion, no matter what useful information and helpful intentions he may also have.
Amber knew exactly what she was doing, cruel, mean.
Depp was cruel and mean when he was drunk
malignant narcissism
Yes, she's the ultimate mean girl
@@Jeffrey314159 you don’t think you would be mean to someone who was treating you like she was treating him? It’s a bit silly to expect Johnny to have been the bigger person while dealing with her when she was essentially attacking his childhood trauma. Unless you experience this kind of abuse for yourself, you just cannot understand.
@@Jeffrey314159 No, he wasn't. He simply reacted to her abuse. But Amber was cruel and mean when she was drunk and when she was sober. Amber is just as much an alcoholic and drug abuser as she claims JD to be. Her drugs of choice just happen to be hallucinogens.
I dated a BP girl. It does seem, based on her actions, that way. The initial phase, which they call "idealization" is like heaven. I think Johnny got 18 months of that. The down side is that it is followed by "splitting," which means that when you come off the pedestal, you get thrown in a pit.
Imagine what it’s like to be a child of one.
@@OakwiseBecoming Mommy Dearest is a great movie about a child of one.
I really dont think he watched the full trial and the instantly stopping her crying performance when their was an objection and the going back in to the performance.
Yes but it can't be classed as a Distortion if it was all planned years earlier and then she laughs when she gets one up on people !No thats lying !
Ehh. Psychology is more of a region than it is a science. A liar is a liar.
Psychiatry has a way of explaining away everything.
I believe i have a bpd/narcissistic sibling and i am no longer in contact with her. and i am so glad as she was always accusing me of things i was not guilty of. after awhile i realized she was making up these "stories" to justify the feelings she had inside. but i didn't understand what i was dealing with, and how manipulative these people really are. and yes, we shared a painful childhood with 2 narcissistic parents. i do believe that AH was trying to take JD down and what a "coup" that would have been for her had it not blown up in her face.
Well you should make an effort to stay on touch as they are one one's in need of help the most. You must help them see their flaws because no one else will. It's not easy but you can help them get better.
This trial made me realise that my older sister is a Sociopathic Narcissist with BPD. I am her target and its truly frightening. She has all these imagined grudges against me. I feel like I have a stalker....I had no idea but my father mentioned something before he died 30 years ago. I never understood what he meant until this year. Looking back I see it. The efforts to take over my circle of friends, the hidden hate and jealousy! These are not people you can help if you are the target. She is ready to destroy me in any way she can. I have so many instances. I feel threatened by the depth of her feelings to the point that I know she would love me dead.
@@glorianyambok7405 yes Gloria i understand and sympathize. they are not your friend, they are your enemy and want to destroy you. i never got this until recently.
@@jonfreeman9682 You don't understand. they don't think they have flaws and there is nothing that says i must stay in contact with an abuser. In fact, all counseling would tell me otherwise. And she doesn't want contact because i stopped tolerating her bs.
@@jonfreeman9682 you are extremely naive and/or have no experience dealing with them. I also find many BPDs act like victims and shame their victims. Perhaps you are a BPD? THese people can be very dangerous. Check out Dr. Ramani and Dr Les Carter channels about NPD/BPD people.
I have empathy for border liners... I just don't want to marry one of them! Well said, Megyn.👏👏👏
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"borderline" is hardly the word for it. She's as mad as a lamp post.
Borderline psychotic…
Multiple lawsuits reminds me of Prince Harry’s wife
Harry is as bad as her they feed each other .
Meghan is like amber
@@luciedupont6477 Harry too
Nah, she’s lying. The difference between delusions (truly believing you were abused) and lying (deciding to accuse someone falsely of abuse) is the manipulation - you have to have some idea of reality in order to know what aids the image you wish to construct and which facts compromise that image. I can’t speak to Amber Heard’s inner world or thought process, but the reason I feel she knows she is lying is: she uses words which fit her narrative, the main example being saying ‘pledging’ to erase the meaning of ‘donating’. This, to me indicates she knows she didn’t donate, but that it benefits her image to insist she did. If you didn’t know you didn’t donate, wouldn’t you just use that word when insisting you did?
It takes someone very aware of the true course of events to actively twist words like this.
Many of my clients with BPD have this ‘I love you/ I hate you’ dichotomy. Relationships are very volatile with others and there are strong feelings of abandonment. BPD can usually arise from extensive trauma in one’s life. Treatment usually consists of Dialectical Behavioural Therapy (DBT) which helps people learn distress tolerance, emotional regulation and interpersonal effectiveness. This diagnosis has become very stigmatized and many have a hard time coming to terms with the diagnosis, but if one is willing to work with the DBT modality, there can me a lot of success in behavioural changes
so i have a question, from what i know of BDP they don't fake crying though (like AH did on the stand), they genuinely cry based on distorted truths but the crying/emotion itself isn't phony. am i wrong?
thank you for your comment. Everyone is a mental health advocate until something like this happens. I understand why some therapists might choose not to work with bpd patients. and I DONT support amber heard(is it her distorted thinking or having other personality traits that explain the way she is ) and I was so happy when johnny depp won but no one gets to pick their mental disorder. life with bpd is really tough and it could be pure hell some days, not only for the person who has it but for everyone around them. maintaining relationships and keeping a job is also really difficult. and on top of that you have to deal with the stigma that comes with it. getting help could seem nearly impossible and that's why people choose to isolate a lot.
"I hate you please don't leave me/I love you go away"
@@missdark16 you gotta understand her response to auditory stimuli such as conversation about JD could have triggered an off putting reaction within her causing her to seem like she’s faking tears. Keep in mind that she already struggles showing emotions , crying on set for a movie is a good example , she had difficulty accessing that part of her brain that regulates emotion and couldn’t cry on command. A lot of people struggle with that as well especially when under pressure
@@stickwittaglocc7563 i think i do get the gist of what you are saying, but my question was more is that even BPD or something else entirely? because i have a hard time reconciling what i know about BPD with AH and her difficulty dispaying emotions. I don't doubt she has issues and could use therapy but i'm questioning what she has is BPD or say Antisocial personality disorder?
Thank you Dr Drew!
This is a true story about a borderline personality disordered client that I was involved in the treatment of, at a hospital I worked at, that was trained in dialectical behavior therapy, also known as the Marsha Linehan protocol.
In treating borderline personality disordered patients, the best practice is to use two therapists, both of them considered equal as co-therapists, and to have a psychiatrist involved in the treatment to manage medication.
Because borderline personality disorder goes along with suicidal gestures, we had a protocol that we would hospitalize anyone who made any indication of being suicidal who was in our borderline program.
You need to take what they say seriously even if it's just a way for them to get attention.
Our borderline group is typically an outpatient group. Which means they come in for therapy every day for a couple of hours in a group setting, and then they additionally receive some one to one counseling, and they also meet with a psychiatrist once a week or less frequently for medication management.
It's a very expensive form of treatment. But it pays very well for the insurance reimbursements.
Being one of the only hospitals in Northern California in the early 2000s that was authorized to deliver dialectical behavior therapy, we had an inordinate amount of referrals to our hospital.
One day about 4 o'clock in the afternoon one of the patients who was in our borderline personality group showed up at the hospital claiming that she was suicidal.
She demanded to be hospitalized immediately. I hadn't even gotten her to the evaluation room yet. She had a large suitcase, a very large handbag, and another large shoulder bag.
I asked her if she was on her way to the airport or something, and why she had all this luggage with her.
She said, "Because you're going to admit me now! And if you don't, I'm going to call (name)." Then she named the Director of the hospital who was one of the therapists who was primarily responsible for her treatment.
I repeated my question, and asked her what she had in all of those bags. Because we usually don't let people come into the hospital without going through their belongings.
We have no idea what they're bringing in. It could be alcohol, drugs, weapons, and she had enough stuff for a week in Cancun!
She started naming the things that were in her suitcase: clothing, make/ up, snacks, hair dryer, curling iron, etc.
I looked in and it looked like she had emptied her closet and her bathroom into the luggage!
One of the questions that you can ask somebody who is allegedly suicidal is, "What would you do if I didn't admit you and sent you out of here right now."
I was expecting her to say that she would continue on her way to the airport.
But, she said, "I'll get you fired! This is all my stuff! You need to admit me now or I'm going to get you fired!"
She obviously was not suicidal if she was planning on spending a week at the hospital and she had packed for it!
So I told her that I would immediately call my boss, and she agreed that I should.
She demanded that I tell him that she was there, and that she was suicidal.
I went into another room and explained to my boss what was going on.
He said to go ahead and admit her on a 5150, but transfer her to a hospital that was as far away as we could possibly find for her, which was about 150 miles away.
She had to be transported by ambulance, of course.
The ambulance company refused to take her luggage (which someone I know might have had something to do with).
She was thrilled that I was putting her on a 5150.
She thought that she was going to be admitted to our hospital.
I am not lying when she said that I needed to go faster because she didn't want to miss dinner, which was usually served at 4:30 to 5 o'clock.
We had excellent food in our hospital and she didn't wanna miss the dinner meal!
Clearly, she was not suicidal!
How can you be suicidal if you're mad because you might miss dinner at a psychiatric hospital?
When I told her there was a slight delay in getting her admitted, she had no idea that I had an ambulance on the way to pick her up, and transport her 150 miles away.
When the ambulance came, they strapped her in the gurney, and they took her out of the hospital, screaming and yelling and threatening to get me fired.
Half the people in the hospital knew what was going on.
I know some of you people are having a very hard time understanding that AH is mentally disordered.
Or, that AH cannot possibly have zero remorse for what she's doing.
Yet, if she has the diagnosis that Dr. Curry suggests that she has, folks, you may as well start writing out your Christmas list to Santa Claus, putting your lost teeth under your pillow, and waiting for the Easter bunny too!
Because that'll happen faster than AH admits remorse!
From the beginning I have been suggesting that AH has narcissistic personality disorder, which is more of a combination of histrionic personality disorder with features of borderline personality disorder.
In other words, it's way, way worse.
Narcissistic personality disorder is like borderline personality disorder only crueler, and more sadistic.
I'm encouraging you...
Please don't focus on AH's mental illness. It is her mental illness, she is responsible for it.
The best thing that JD can do, is to 100% enforce the judgement against her, make her pay, hold her accountable by teaching her through consequences.
Consequences are a highly underrated form of teaching.
The second that you don't give BPD's what they demand, they have no remorse whatsoever for trying to destroy you.
You can call her all the terrible names you want -
Ms Aquaturd,
Ms Merturd,
poop emoji's,
etc.
Its not going to change her at all.
A person in that situation needs at least a year of therapy, and it's hard work, for the therapists, the psychiatrist, the social workers, and the family / support system to stick with it because a person with borderline personality disorder will fight all those people at the same time and never once admit to anything they do or have done as wrong.
It's called crazy making. And believe me, they can be so good at it you will really wonder if you are the one that's crazy.
That's why a single therapist should not treat someone with borderline personality disorder, and it should be done with a co-therapist at the very least.
I learned some really valuable lessons working in the hospital about how to diagnose and treat serious mental illness. I learned things that you can't learn anywhere except in a hospital setting because we have labs, medical professionals, referrals to neurologists and other medical specialtys to rule out every other possible cause of what's happening.
I learned about AH through this court battle. Never heard of her before two months ago.
It took me less than 30 seconds to feel what I felt when I was in that room working with people with borderline personality disorder.
Its a feeling that makes me want to vomit, and run like hell in the other direction as fast as I can.
Doing psychiatric assessment, I had exactly 15 minutes to do my assessments, and not one minute more. Believe me, by the time I worked at that hospital for a year, 15 minutes was enough time. They usually took me less than five minutes, and I spent the other 10 minutes satisfy my curiosity. I've already made up my mind but I had a four-page assessment to fill out, and 15 minutes seemed like hours..
I have treated dozens and dozens of people with schizophrenia. I will treat a dozen schizophrenics before I treat one more person with borderline personality disorder.
Give it up people!
She doesn't even know how ill she is.
Put your energy into something positive.
Go rake somebody's lawn for free!
Go feed a homeless person.
Go wash the windows on some neighbors house who can't wash their own windows.
Go offer to wash someone's car, walk their dog, fix their fence, buy them some groceries, volunteer your time and make the world a better place!
I promise you this, you cannot make this world a better place by doing anything that focuses on AH because even after six years of JD fighting her he barely made it out with his reputation.
JD is a very intelligent, creative man.
Thanks to "God" that he's out from underneath that spiders web
Again, go do something to make the world a better place today!
Don't waste your time and energy trying to change someone who has no remorse, and worse, no apparent capacity for remorse.
Because only the rare people like him who are capable of standing up against the crowd, and on faith shining a light into a dark place, can help us all understand that being declared not guilty is not good enough!
Because not guilty is not the same as innocent!
Stand against evil.
Stand.
Keep standing.
But don't think that by standing there, it's gonna go away.
Know when to run, and know when to fight.
But as long as you continue to focus on the problem, you are not focused on the solution.
The solution is to go out and do something to make this world a better place, and do it now!
Thanks for your fascinating and knowledgeable comment 💙. I agree with you that you unfortunately have to give up on trying to "help" some people for the sake of one's own sanity. Just my curiosity: when did you got that gut feeling about AH? Was ist when she started testifying or already before by watching her reactions to Johnny's witnesses and his testimony?
Well spoken.
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When I saw her on the witness stand testifying in some video that randomly came up on my feed. I saw her talk about being raped with a vodka bottle and there was no emotion in her eyes.
Her face twisted towards the jury, then back to her own attorney, then back to the jurors, and her face kept twisting into different emotions but the emotions only lasted a split second. None of the emotions lasted. She kept switching from anger, to rage, to sadness, all in under one second.
And yet she was describing being raped with the vodka bottle? Are you kidding me? That only happens with people who dissociate. But if you dissociate, it shows on your face because there's no emotion. And she wasn't dissociated.
Because every single time somebody said "objection," she looked at the judge, or back at the jury, and waited.
And then launched right back into her story as if nothing had happened. When you're dissociated you're not even able to determine what's around you. You can't look people in the eye when you're dissociated. Or maybe you go into a rage when you're dissociated? It's hard to say, but they call it the thousand mile stare. When you've seen it enough times, you know not to ask anymore questions.
You don't want somebody to go into a dissociated state. It's not like Hollywood. If they start to dissociate, you're fucking up as a therapist. You need to shut the fuck up and stop talking. You need to get them back. You can't re-traumatize them by digging into their shit.
It's not right. We will do this early in our therapy because we're curious, and we think we have some sort of solution that we learned in some stupid fucking graduate class. But those textbooks are not real people. They're stories that you read. You throw all that shit out after you've been working in a psychiatric hospital for a month or two, or else you'll end up being 5150.'d.
She never got raped with a bottle. She was lying.
I'm not saying the people with borderline personality disorder have not had trauma. Indeed, sometimes they have. But not always.
Nevertheless, they have something called the perceptual reality of trauma. And they can also develop what's called an "entitlement mentality."
Entitlement mentality is the Sahara desert, dry as a bone, and it will suck up all the water of an Ocean, yet leave no trace of evidence of ever having been touched by any moisture.
And that's when I knew, that poor son of a bitch, it's all a lie.
But I did think that he must have abused her in some fashion or another. I know if I was married to someone like that I sure would have.
That's a good question.
Good for you for asking. I just knew it made me wanna throw up.
I really love Dr. Drew. I have spoken to him on the radio several times. He's a genuinely good guy. But he has compassion for people like that. You have to have compassion for people like that to be in the same room with them. But even he says, you never go into a room with someone with borderline personality disorder alone. Never. Never. Never. Never never never never never.
@@stevebutler812 thanks so much for answering with so much detail. Especially your explanation of the dissociation mechanism helps to understand that she wasn't just being retraumatized.
I think people instinctively picked up on those clues and knew she's not trustworthy without being able to explain why: what she was telling was horrifying and didn't match with her mannerisms. She looked direct in the jury's eyes, couldn't cry a tear though trying hard. Also because nearly everyone has been "fortunate" enough to have met some Ambers in their life.
I have vague recollections from high school and college of some girls who had traits that strongly remind me of her. I don't know if borderline but for sure attention-seeking, lacking empathy, egotistical... beyond jealous and nearly turning to stalkers and fierce enemies if they perceived you might become a threat to their supremacy in any way.
I wouldn't want to offend anyone but I've observed this is quite exclusively an issue with us females. After this I developed an instinct to detect this type and run for miles if I ever met one.
What I'm often wondering about is why some people try to explain, justify and excuse her behaviour as if they were her therapists. Of course things are not white or black, but the amount of suffering she's caused to Johnny Deep and his family isn't excused by any trauma she may have experienced in her childhood.
Thanks again
@@mariaa.7327
All right Maria, now you've gotten under my skin and I couldn't even sleep last night because I couldn't stop thinking about your question.
Here is where I'm going to do some thing that I am reluctant to do publicly but I'm going to do it anyway.
Dr. Drew is wrong about a couple of things that he said in this interview and he may have misstated his intentions.
However, he said that nobody suffers more than the borderline.
You cannot find any evidence whatsoever that Amber heard has suffered at all, or that she even has the capacity to suffer, because she was caught on video lying about leaking material to TMZ.
But the entire video showed that she was laughing not suffering, and that she had set it up and was laughing at him because he was drunk the morning that he found out his mother died. The truth of the matter is she used it to allege that he had been abusing her.
That's the proof you need that Amber heard set him up, destroyed his career, and spent the next many years getting millions and millions of dollars from him, bringing her drug addicted friends into his penthouses, but all he did was treat every single one of them with respect, and fall deeper and deeper into his drug and alcohol addiction, and depression.
JD suffered more because if her than she even has the capacity ro "suffer."
So that's the proof that you need that it was not a distortion.
The fact that she covered her mouth during the UK deposition when she said the TMZ had been notified about the divorce and the restraining order shows that she knew she was covering up the truth and she wasn't supposed to say that and when she did it shocked her.
I believe that what you're saying is accurate, and I have only worked with one or two borderline personality disorder males, but it does exist in males.
However, I believe what we're discussing is impossible to determine because it's possible she has narcissistic personality disorder. It's also possible that sometimes what we're really looking at is people who are referred to as psychopaths and sociopaths, and those people have no capacity for remorse. Field of mental health is not as clear-cut as it might be in another hundred years once we understand more about the human brain.
Nevertheless, you seem to have good instincts, and I hope you're smart enough to never go into the field and then I'll Hills, that's a room like hell for people like that because they will destroy you, and that's where you were also very correct.
Dr. Drew has compassion for those people, and he's highly qualified to do what he does and he's an absolute expert when it comes to working with people with these kinds of disorders.
My expertise Is it working with the more clear-cut psychotic disorders, such as schizophrenia, schizoaffective, and other dissociative disorders.
So I do not believe that Amber heard is suffering from PTSD and she dissociated because of PTSD. I actually believe that she plotted what she did and she's closer to a psychopath, in other words what we call antisocial personality disorder, or narcissistic personality disorder, then she is to borderline Histrionic. But these are simply splitting hairs, and arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
The problem is that people with those personalty disorders don’t think there’s anything wrong with them. It’s always somebody else’s fault.
Ah nope I have bpd and I own my stuff if I do something wrong I take responsibility for it I will apologize ber can't even admit her lies and wrongs
@@katepalmer5418 Good for you. I didn’t mean to offend you.
I’m sure my mother was histrionic with tendencies of narcissistic. When I was 10, she reached across the table to slap me across the face when my grandmother repeated distortions and exaggerations about my behavior and I said in exasperation “well mom lies!” As I get older and got out from under her thumb, I was able to see that she’s not lying. She literally believed these distorted perceptions and that her reality was skewed.
Thank you for this! My mom is textbook borderline. Married and divorced 5 times. I know she suffers a lot but man, it can be so difficult to deal with. I wonder how to best respond sometimes. That would be something worth looking in to. My sister won’t have a relationship at all with her. Thanks for the insight.
Firm bounderies. Very firm.
Well she is mom so you must help her. It's lonely for her because people will ostracize you with this behavior.
@@jonfreeman9682 It does bother me that my sister doesn’t even bother with her but I don’t turn my back on her ever. If I need space from her I take it but she knows I’ll be there for her.
@@ultimately-sabrina When it comes to family... it's complicated. When it's mom we have to overlook any and all faults and help. Mom is very special. Johnny said in the trial her mom often abused him and he would go hide in the bathroom and later he still looked after mom and took care of her. Dad ran away one day and never came back and mom tried suicide but Johnny tried to support mom no matter how much abuse he took. That's maturity when someone treats you bad but you still love them in return. ☝️
It's unfortunate that you and your sister aren't able to present a united front. It would not surprise me if she plays the two of you against each other, one child is the good child, the other is a bad kid, and gets a big guilt trip thrown in their lap. Perhaps it went back and forth like that between you and your sister growing up. If she does that, remember that she doesn't have the right to ruin your relationship with your sister. Her unhappiness is her responsibility, not yours or your sister's. She's unconsciously piled up a lot of guilt on herself for her failed relationships, and she doesn't have a healthy release for it and can't consciously deal with it, so it ends up manifesting itself in the way she behaves.
Please make sure you're taking care of yourself like it sounds like you have been. Prayers.
Extremely interesting I could listen to this for hours. Another strong attraction is between empath and Narcissist
Yeah, loving one is painful. My ex was diagnosed with the same as Amber. So many CPS and police visits. She once started firing a gun in the ceiling while her kids were in their bedrooms upstairs. Yeah, insane! She had an explosive temper that could go off anytime and anywhere. Sometimes I got the impression she purposely started conflict, and she was a master at finding people's "triggers". The sad thing is I do believe she really did love me. To be blunt, it just wasn't worth it. And OMG, the way she treated her kids was too much. I knew if I stuck in it I would start "protecting" the kids which always triggered her.... "you only like me because of my kids".
There is a great book on BPD titled: "I hate you: never leave me." I personally think Skylar Gray's song, Love the Way You Lie" represents the BPD person quite well.
"So maybe I'm a masochist
I try to run but I don't wanna ever leave
Till the walls are going up
In smoke with all our memories"
omg what happened to Dr. Drew?! anyone defending AH should be required to admit whether or not they watched the entire trial.
I have BPD and although I have really gotten better, but Dr. Drew is right.
I have been an enthusiastic 'fan' of Dr Drew for years and years since he had a talk program on the radio. Enjoyed his Celebrity Rehab, too. He's an excellent teacher. I catch him whenever I can. I do believe he's nailed Heard, we had a borderline/histrionic marry into our family.Wow, what a whirlwind, of course the mrg did not work, and she had him in court every year until the last kid reached 18. I watched Heard, and tho't to myself, "Oh boy, I know this gal all too well....". Thx for posting the interview.
She planned it all. She 100% knew she was lying.
Its extremely troubling that this guy couldnt tell that heard was lying. SMFH anyone with a decent understanding of people could tell that she willfully lied all throughout the trial.
I always thought that, say for example, narcissist were attracted to empathic and kind people. Because in the narcs mind, kindness and real empathy are a sign of weakness in a person that they can easily run roughshod over...or try to.
Exactly! Sociopaths, narcs,... are parasites who prey on those they want something from, and unfortunately the unsuspecting kindhearted are easy targets.
Sounds like you are describing the CCP.
I believe narcissists are attracted to people who are nothing like them. They manipulate the people in their circle and I don't think they could do that with anyone who was themselves a narcissist.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 100% agree. Dr. Drew would never know this unless he had ever experienced abuse. Analyzing patients in a psych ward and analyzing them in real life circumstances are 2 completely different things.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 I agree. Impossible to get rid of especially when he lives a few homes away, befriends your circle, now ex-circle, and still makes you a target of his insane habits almost a decade later. Sick puppies!
Been watching Megyn for some time and love listening to her. Just subscribed. Can't believe I hadn't before now. Always also love listening to Dr Drew 💖💖
She tells it like it is. No holding back no woke garbage and no stupid boss to sugar coat her words. It's free speech so just say it.
People should be very scared 😳!
Who in Hollywood doesn't have borderline personality disorder or worse?
With great respect- my borderline sister tried to destroy my life over many years. Going no contact was the best thing I ever did and only wish I’d done it earlier. Saying no one suffers as much as them? Try their stuck family members……
Most of us unfortunately have to deal with one or more Amber Heards, whether at work, a family member or a friend or all of the above. Unfortunately she is not an uncommon case. Dr Drew said that BPD are attracted to narcisists. That may be but they are also attracted to empaths, and empaths to then
BTW going no contact was the right and the only thing to do. If ever you feel guilty or miss your sister or wonder if you could have done anything to salvage the relationship - the answer is no.
@@olgakolarik9081 absolutely right Olga. I don’t miss her or her behaviour or the family pressure. There was fallout and loss of family members due to her manipulations and lies and it was still all worth it. My children are better off without that toxic dynamic modeled in their lives too. You know what you are talking about too Olga it leaves it’s legacy, going through very difficult personal experiences but once no contact has been implemented, life is so much better as is the future. I hope things are going well for you. 😊🌸
@@judem1359 I can relate very much to your situation, not necessarily exact scenario but family member. It takes many years to realise that, as much as you want to help someone, or at least maintain a relationship with someone who suffers from BPD / Histrionic / Narcisistic tendencies or a combination of those in various degrees, you are right, it is very toxic, it affects the whole family when it's a family member, it is impossible to maintain any normal relationship, if you are on their radar, you will end up in the firing line, you will become a pawn, a punching bag.
The problem with this type of personality is that they categorically deny any responsibility for their behaviour, they view any attempt to discuss the issues as criticism and will defend their actions to death if necessary, they will rather self destruct (A.H.) than back off or admit responsibility, there is no way to get through to them. A.H. versus J.D. trial is such a clear example of dynamics and futility of trying to maintain any kind of relationship with someone who suffers from BPD and is unwilling to ackgnowledge it or seek help. .
@@olgakolarik9081 absolutely spot on Olga. I completely agree with you. It applies also to the trolls AH’s PR firm have hired to try and shut down people who call out her behaviour online…. More of the same. The upside, if you can call it that, is you and I and others in a similar situation can pick the behaviours quickly and can keep our distance……. Apart from JD getting his reputation back, he has provided a public service is bringing behaviour such as AH’s into public awareness and showing people the outcomes…. Hopefully more people will be wise to it….
Regardless of whether she's lying or distorted, she's an absolute evil nightmare. I am so glad the trial was "Live". It showed us who she is and surprise surprise most of us didn't like her.
I appreciate this perspective. I thought in watching her testimony where she kept saying, "He threw me against the wall," "he threw me on the bed," I couldn't help but think: "I wonder if she is "remembering" a passionate moment and using that as a "memory" of alleged DV and SV." Just the way she described it, I found it was more convenient "he threw me" was overly emphasized and repetitive. Definitely a fascinating insight into BPD and how it relates to this case.
I’ve thought this too, even with some of the SA accusations. That she based them on real events and turned them nefarious.
Oh come on she perfectly knew she was lying, otherwise why did she found insurance companies covering her defamation? 😂😂😂
I think she was remembering sexual abuse by a relative. Father, maybe? Once she said Johnny addressed her as baby girl and she had said in an interview that she was her dad’s baby girl. Hmmmm?
I’m still trying to figure out how he could throw her or even pick her up. AT ALL. 😂 She’s a BIG girl; he is not a big guy, and she could probably toss him around even more easily, especially with the rage she harbours.
@@ditzygypsy not to mention always being passed out from drugs and alcohol. 😂
I use to have respect for Dr. Drew but seeing how Amber Heard fooled Dr. Drew I no longer think he's a good doctor. Amber totally and completely lied through her teeth!
When was he ever a good doctor? On MTV?
Of course she was lying! Real emotion doesn't result in fake tears. It was a damned act!
“Domestic violence doesn’t have a gender”
- Camille Vasquez
So much more information needs to go out about BPD.. This makes me ashamed to have BPD and I have never abused anyone in my life and all of my emotions are turned inwards. There are 4 sub types of BPD. Quiet BPD is very different to the picture given here. This is sad for young girls who have been diagnosed to have to hear. heartbreaking
I am a guy with BPD😉 I totally get you. I am also a of the 'quiet' and introvert variety. Dr. Drew paints a very distorted picture of people with BPD and Amber Heard certainly isn't an example of someone with BPD. Princess Diana is a better example when it comes to a lack of regulating emotions, histrionic, paranoid, self destructive, manipulative, charming, extremely magnanimous and self deprecating, easily led, impulsive, etc. I hate how he inaccurately uses Heards' behaviour as typical for BPD. When you are with someone with BPD; set clear boundaries. We will respect them
this is why we need to take better care of the mentally ill. We have "mainstreamed" them in to society and expect from them the exact same from others without mental illness. something has to give.
We all have some form of mental illness.. some have it worse than others. Everyone is suffering in a multitude of ways.
Agree 💯
1 nothings wrong with me
It's hard to treat these conditions.
In Germany it is more often that mental less ill people shall behave more like a psychopath. If you try to behave social you flag yourself to be a victim.
They miss-interpret it as a lack of assertiveness and this is a reason to dismiss so or at least a hindrance of the career. Sometimes refusal to be asocial leads to retirement (in poverty) for people who are under 30 years.
Problem is not that we have them meanstreamed but too many are in our (so called) elite. They rule the world. Common sense is in the minority under people with power.
Dr Drew-. Come on. She destroyed a man and his CHILDREN’S life.
On order to have borderline personality disorder wouldn't she have to have a personality in the first place.
Lol!
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Dr Drew, thank you for explaining this prob. As a retired physician, I would dred when there was a secondary dx of Personality disorder...and they would be upset when I had no additional dxs.
meaning? U dint wanna treat them ? 😄😄
Totally agree with others, she lied & projected synthetic abuses in the courtroom , but when was questioned by C Vasquez, she showed a zero relationship to those (synthetic) experiences , meaning she was lying & made them up. Depp also said it, she acted like a moody teenager around his friends, travelling etc. She may have had a mind of a 7yr old frustrated girl though she was in her 20s, who knows?
Thanks Dr Drew. There's a recording of Amber flying off the handle because Johnny wants to go see his daughter. She starts to describe his leaving in words that usually describe violence. She says, "stop pushing me against the wall, stop hitting me with a stick to say goodbye". There's no violence at all but she feels him walking away as a violent act. There's another time where she keeps saying "Toronto F-ed me up". You think she means violence but when you listen on you realize Toronto was just a verbal argument in which Johnny took off his wedding ring. This is an undeniable Borderline Personality.
It's a shame that other Borderlines have latched onto her as a hero. They now argue that even initiating violence shouldn't be held against a woman. They're now calling it "reactive violence"
Typical abuser isolating her victim from his daughter
There are recordings of Depp flying off the handle, and admitting he headbutted Amber
She said that to try to pretend he was hitting her. That's why she recorded it.
She was saying those things strictly for the recording so it would sound like he was being physically violent with her. No other reason. She knows exactly what she is doing, but thankfully, the jury and the majority of the planet sees through her cheap and dirty tactics.
@@Jeffrey314159 THEY head butted. He didn’t head butt her intentionally. He was ALWAYS trying to get away, and she was heard several times on tape mocking him for that. Did you forget about all those recordings? How convenient. You are clearly not a victim of any sort of spousal ab$se or IPV. For those of us who are, we have horrific hindsight to be able to see just who was the violent, unhinged ab$ser. Just stop. You’re convincing no one with your flimsy little comments. She does not represent us.
Dr. Drew is always spot on. Wow M. Kelly you look amazing.
Great interview. Actually fascinating. More people should know
If you have ever been in a relationship with someone like AH. They go from 0-60 at any moment. You will do or say anything to appease them or anything to get them away from you before they hurt you physically or emotionally. It's extremely hard to get away from them.I know why JD said awful things sometimes to AH.It is because she was literally trying to drive him insane. You don't get any breaks. I think we should feel bad for mental illness because I've seen it firsthand. But you should feel more sorry for the victims who are tortured at the hands of the people with the mental illness.I heard the Doctor say you have to know how to handle them? Really? I also didn't think your comment at the end that BPD/HPD people almost always hook up with sociopaths.I think they look for someone they can control and manipulate. Poor Mr Depp I know how he feels.
You said it perfect. ..
I’m sorry Amber knew what she saying her mind is sharp as a tool. No ptsd just a woman looking for a way into the businesses and I believe with the knife she brought. If Johnny Depp hadn’t got out when he did I believe she would have killed him.
“It’s not a lie, if you believe it.” - George Costanza
I am so glad this topic is being discussed. It needs to be for other people who have to deal with this.
But yes she did purposely defame him.
Well TBH I don't think she ever intented it to go far. You know how you start with an innocent white lie with good intentions and then it gets outta hand. I think that's what happened. It's kinda like Elizabeth Holmes you know. ☝️
Perhaps the empathy Dr. Drew feels for people with borderline personalities is warranted for some, but in AH's case, she knew what she was doing. I have listened to those recordings of her taunting him, antagonizing him, even drugging him in one of those recordings and that was after they were already divorced and she showed up at his home!
When you put the things she was saying. combined with the help of the freeloaders she was parading into his property living off of JD and his resources, the only conclusion you can reach is all of them were conspiring to stage it so this man (JD) became known as a drunken in the gutter drug abuser and in the meantime, she was going to overdose him and claim he did it accidentally. What thankfully stopped it was JD's sister intervening and getting him into rehab and freed from the addiction he had developed from a prescription to roxycodeine from an injury he had filming POTC. That is why she was so belligerent and what caused the fight in Australia, was her not being in his will. She may have borderline personality and the traits that go along with it, but it is not preventing her from plotting, manipulating, and eventually with her scheming and lies she will murder someone, not a doubt in my mind. I think JD knows it too and probably why he is staying in Europe traveling all over so he is not staying in the same place, where she can get to him.
Her and who helped and nonetheless used her such as Aclu but not only. Now it's becaming embarrassing how they want to put it all on her. Money are finished, she is not a good product anymore? LOL
Nothing unexpected 🤔
Paige Graham. JD seems not to want to be in the same country with AH.
@@vickyabramowitz2885 That's what I was saying. He is traveling all over Europe so he is not in the same city, place, or hotel. I think it is the safest thing he can do for himself
Dr Drew, much respect for all the work you've done and all your public service by educating people and providing a valuable insight into addiction and various other psych issues through your TV shows.
I agree, the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial is a very teachable opportunity, it provides a valuable "case study" as, even though this was a rather extreme case, most of their relationship issues and dynamics are unfortunately very common in various degrees to many relationships.
But what's the solution?
The solution is to have a caregiver as a rock to lean on in childhood when we’re scared, lonely or sad.
If we don’t have one, then co -dependency or narcissism appears in our personalities in early adulthood.
@@katemunro2579 Both JD and AH grew up in dysfunctional abusive families. It affected them in different ways. One resorted to taking the abuse and the other to aggression It is typical.
It is possible to heal later in life, it also takes having a stable rock, and a lot of work on own insight and self-awareness. Basically looking beyond human behavior, including own behavior and recognising the triggers and patterns. The main issue is that everybody is looking to each other for validation and love. The problem is that there is no amount of love, validation and acceptance that anybody can give us that would be enough, no matter how much they try. Love, validation and acceptance has to come from inside. If we haven't received it from our parents in our formative years, we remain that needy child emotionally. So instead of always searching for validation from others, if we realise that everybody else is also looking for the same thing and that instead of seeking validation from others, which is a bottomless pit that others can't fill, we can decide to GIVE validation to ourselves and others and not depending on others. If we choose to validate others the way we want to be validated (it's not always an action but generally having that attitude and intent of having as much empathy and love for other people as we'd like, treating others the way we want to be treated without expecting anything in return - very important). It is healing and fulfilling. We are capable of an abundance of love and acceptance of self and others but we just don't know it. We weren't given permission or shown how to love ourselves and if we can't love ourselves we can't love others and vice versa. I am talking about being kind to ourselves , being enough, not the selfish ego- driven "love". That's not love. First of all we need to figure out what love is, because love is only love if it is selfless and unconditional.
Thank you Dr. Drew, for speaking against disparinging remarks.
I need to react as person with BPD, I can see a lot of hate speach towards BPD such as they can not be treated, impossible to have relationship and so on. Please people, educate yourself first, BPD is a life sentence and life with it is extremly difficult and we, "successful" peoples with BPD who are in the treatmant and seek help do not deserve that kind of public image. I wish you a beautiful and productive day ❤
Nice to hear that you are working on yourself. I wish you big success. When people here write there was no treatment it means in most cases people shall stop to try to be therapists although they just are family or so. Everyone can just work on oneself not on others.Therapists can not heal, only support and explain a little bit. Don't let you discourage by AH or other people. Usually we talk about people who try to turn us into their dolly, not about people how are aware that they are ill and fight against this illness. Good Luck
Yeah… no. (A) He did not describe the borderline personality disorder correctly. (B) Amber Heard did, in fact, lie.
How about Borderlines attracted to Empaths? 'Coz JD is an Empath, no question. As am I, and I have attracted Narcs, Boderlines, and Sociopaths. They all made my life suck, as has happened to many others, incl. JD.
I actually pity AH. She’s so alone . It must be so hurting to have no one you can lean on. I know most people would say , she dug her own grave by her behaviour and lies, but still, she is a person who needs compassion. I pray for her. I hope she’ll find enlightenment in her situation.
Yea I hope she gets better but until she admits she’s sick nothing will ever help her!
Very educational , thank you
I'm not a health professional but some of that didn't sound right to me. I believe she was calculating in her lies.
I totally agree. Dr. Drew is blind. She knows she's lying.
So, basically, everyone with a pulse suffers from BPD.
To some extent. Some more so than others.
nah..... only 2 %
Don't go by Dr. Drew. He is a TV doctor. Do your own research. And by that, I don't mean on youtube. Just pick up Marsha Linehan's book.
Cluster B: Borderline, histrionic, narcissist and sociopath
I’ve loved Dr. Drew since his Loveline show. Great interview. I wish he could be my therapist. Lol
No, Amber lied.
Want to give a “shout out” to all my partners who didn’t take a dump in my bed.
She had phone recording stating she was gonna hold on to pictures that she would photo shop Then her extortion letter with help from her lawyer for her demands to JD. She knew exactly what she was doing.
Great interview.