These NPCs are WILD | Red Dead Redemption | Ep. 3

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  • @b.u.l.1734
    @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +90

    49:25 - John is actually telling the truth.
    You have to remember that RDR 2 only chronicles the last few months of Dutch's gang, so we only saw their decline as a group in that game.
    In RDR 2, there's an old newspaper clipping in Arthur's tent that states how 3 masked men (implied to be young Dutch, Hosea and Arthur) robbed a small-town bank and gave the money to the homeless people of the area.
    There's also a camp conversation in which Arthur says to John: "Remember when we used to help people?" And John responds: "Yeah... I guess that stopped happening a while ago", confirming that they used to help people quite a lot back in the old days.
    So yeah, John is telling the truth when talking to West Dickens: the gang used to have a "Robin Hood"-type of code which probably lasted up until the 1899 Blackwater Massacre (event that kickstarts RDR 2's story and also the event that the "Top Hat Man" references at 1:14:46).

    • @Darkswordz
      @Darkswordz 2 роки тому +2

      Did they ever state why the Blackwater job went so badly? It seems like the law was waiting for them, or maybe it was just bad luck. I couldn't figure out which was which.

    • @technosworld2
      @technosworld2 2 роки тому +10

      @@Darkswordz I don't believe so. It sort of makes me want to have a RDR 3 prequel prequel where we see the beginning of Dutch's gang leading up to the Blackwater job

    • @kelticsage
      @kelticsage 2 роки тому +8

      @@Darkswordz apparently the blackwater thing was the first time they killed innocents, at least Dutch

    • @Darkswordz
      @Darkswordz 2 роки тому +1

      @@kelticsage Ah ok. I imagine the innocent bystanders were impeding their escape, and as gang members started getting killed Dutch had no option but to shoot the innocents to get them out of the way - otherwise the rest of the gang would die.

    • @MichaelLLloyd
      @MichaelLLloyd 2 роки тому +2

      @@technosworld2 RDR3 ending with the Blackwater massacre wouldn't work. The gang has to hide in the mountains after the Blackwater heist, so you wouldn't be able to explore being stuck up there in the middle of a blizzard.

  • @murphymoerf
    @murphymoerf 2 роки тому +29

    Seth should have been in RDR 2 as the owner of the general store in Rhodes. He said he had a business which he abandoned, so it would have been perfect if he'd been working in Rhodes in 1899, then before the epilogue he leaves to search for treasure in the west, Pearson takes over his store, and by 1911 he has completely lost his mind. I'm actually surprised they didn't do it like this

    • @murphymoerf
      @murphymoerf 2 роки тому +2

      @Chandler Burse Okay that would make sense if that's the case

  • @mattburrell7504
    @mattburrell7504 2 роки тому +11

    “Did I just kill a zombie?” No, but speaking of which, play the Undead Nightmare when you’re done. Greatest DLC ever.

  • @KanoSJ
    @KanoSJ 2 роки тому +12

    “You’ve forgotten far more important people than me” since rdr2 I’ve always thought of Arthur with that line

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +10

      I doubt he forgot Arthur since it's only been 4 years since he last mentioned/talked about him (RDR 2's 1907 epilogue).

    • @KanoSJ
      @KanoSJ 2 роки тому

      @@b.u.l.1734 yeah same here, but he just springs to mind even if it’s not true

    • @KanoSJ
      @KanoSJ 2 роки тому +2

      @@b.u.l.1734 also, though John killed Micah out of revenge for Arthur, he kinda forgot what some of his last words were to John. “I want you to not look back”

    • @jinxthatsme2317
      @jinxthatsme2317 2 роки тому +9

      He’s most likely referring to the men John killed and the men John witnessed die at the hands of Dutch.

    • @KanoSJ
      @KanoSJ 2 роки тому

      @@jinxthatsme2317 yeah I can see that

  • @Herandro_just_Herandro
    @Herandro_just_Herandro 2 роки тому +14

    I think Seth was born on Butcher's Creek. The voice, the "healthy" appearance, the "clean" clothes...

  • @John-996
    @John-996 2 роки тому +39

    the NPCs are crazy in this game. I saved an NPCs friend from a hanging but his horse died so he decided to steal my horse. Goes to show how random this game can be. I did have one NPC try to save me from a wolf attack haha. This game is honestly better than allot open worlds that come now in days.

  • @twilightwalker3260
    @twilightwalker3260 2 роки тому +6

    The man in the black top hat is a rather notorious character in RDR. Some think he may be god or the devil. From your description back in RDR2 he might be the guy on one of the paintings inside one of the abandoned houses.

  • @johantolli372
    @johantolli372 2 роки тому +18

    Never seen Lord of the Rings? I think you just decided the next movie for the reaction channel! That trilogy the best movies ever made in my opinion, a true masterpiece!

  • @baran1455
    @baran1455 2 роки тому +6

    -You have a beast breed in your inventory,War horse,give it a try
    - Try to join campfires of strangers they arent hostile like RDR 2,you will hear great stories and world event references
    - Beware of cougars,they are literal hell
    -Try liars dice,you will love it
    - In order to reveal points of interests activate the settlement maps in your inventory by pressing x
    - Always have medicine
    - If you want to clinge a specific horse breed permanently even after they die you need to buy horse deed from the stores
    - Blue house icons are for permanent save houses,you can buy them

  • @atrevino90
    @atrevino90 2 роки тому +12

    The mystery of the strange man is fascinating, he may be the devil, he might be death itself, or some kind of angel, maybe even god, but definitely not a normal man, there are many videos and theories about him and his deeds, like how that one guy in armadillo sold his soul to him and the curse of armadillo happened because of it. The incident of the ferry he is referring to is the one they mention on Red Dead 2 at the very start of it that they are running away from. That line, "you've forgotten people far more important than me" might even be referring to Arthur since John never even mentions him on this game tho to be fair he didn't really existed back then, still interesting how it all comes together

    • @MathsOP
      @MathsOP 2 роки тому

      look up the video about the strange mans by strange man.

  • @drjones7579
    @drjones7579 2 роки тому +1

    I cued up The Doors 'Riders on the storm' during the cow saving mission after I heard you say something of the like. The audio combination was like a mid shelf Blended Scotch... very smooth

  • @kestlane
    @kestlane 2 роки тому +1

    A milestone. Today. 1 year ago I found your channel. Never looked back. Thank you for you and your content.

  • @MuchWhittering
    @MuchWhittering 2 роки тому +5

    "Hopefully Seth is not a cannibal." Not at all, he's a perfectly well-adjusted member of society.

  • @FadedOxide
    @FadedOxide 2 роки тому +10

    Yeah Seth's character is definitely inspired by Gollum in lord of the rings. Would love to see your reaction to the movies since u said u never saw em.

  • @LetsGetitBoah
    @LetsGetitBoah 2 роки тому +2

    I really hope if the third game is a prequel, that we finally get an answer as to who the Strange man is and what his agenda was.

  • @troythompson1768
    @troythompson1768 2 роки тому +2

    No one is really sure WHAT the Strange Man is. Rockstar left it really vague. He could just be a dude who's really good at stalking (this is unlikely for reasons you'll see later), he could be the personification of Fate, he could be God, he could be the Devil, he could be an angel, he could be a ghost. The question remains open.

    • @josemanuelzalasar3910
      @josemanuelzalasar3910 2 роки тому +1

      I know that many say that it is not, but it is the devil, or at least the representation of what people mentioned that it was in 1900 (in their imagination of course), if you look closely, all the missions that the strange man gives you They are about morality, and they are called I know you, it is supposed to be the devil who tries to convince you to do evil before time runs out, because he is convinced that you are evil

    • @josemanuelzalasar3910
      @josemanuelzalasar3910 2 роки тому +1

      ho another fact, when the game was created, it was mentioned that the developers wanted to introduce paranormal things in it, several missions have themes about it and this is a story arc with those strange things

  • @carloslaredo8840
    @carloslaredo8840 2 роки тому +1

    52:22 "counting to three, ready, set, go" lmao

  • @dudee.4825
    @dudee.4825 2 роки тому +1

    Red Sage can be found around Rio Bravo, and Desert Sage is in Gaptooth Ridge.

  • @MrTommygunz420
    @MrTommygunz420 2 роки тому +3

    32:50- Seth reminds me of the mad preacher in the river in rdr2😂

    • @MrTommygunz420
      @MrTommygunz420 2 роки тому +1

      57:20-And Irish is a wannabe Sean, you're gonna love him though

    • @MrTommygunz420
      @MrTommygunz420 2 роки тому +1

      1:14:55- and we're back to the girl Dutch shot in the blackwater job from ch1... They did REALLY great with continuity between the two.
      1:16:10-yeah that's him...

    • @MrTommygunz420
      @MrTommygunz420 2 роки тому +2

      1:20:45- well... want in one hand and s*** in the other...(Rockstar had a weirder sense of humor back then😉)

    • @MrTommygunz420
      @MrTommygunz420 2 роки тому +1

      1:36:00-Tumbleweed is just starting a cholera outbreak in the post game of the second one; this is at the end of it

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrTommygunz420 You mean Sean it's a wannabe of Irish, right?

  • @Jdash403
    @Jdash403 2 роки тому +3

    Where you were checking out the graves I think you missed Marshall’s wife’s grave

  • @OhMysticOh
    @OhMysticOh 2 роки тому +1

    If you want to put your gun away for that added immersion, just tap the left trigger.

  • @d.hardenart8917
    @d.hardenart8917 2 роки тому

    Haha, great episode. I saw your wheels turning then you first met the Strange man! That was an awesome moment! Also the flying bodies when the treasure hunters blew themselves up! I had not see that before. Thanks! See you next video.

  • @Carl_Frank
    @Carl_Frank 2 роки тому

    1:09:15 Those guys with the buckets! LOL! Synchronized bucket dancing!

  • @Tysman909
    @Tysman909 Рік тому

    Top hat man is actually death. Most people say he's the devil but he isn't cause you get to choose how you do his tasks

  • @jessejames6687
    @jessejames6687 2 роки тому

    You alright Cyn!?!? I mean with the Hurricane and all!

  • @MrZomBie775
    @MrZomBie775 2 роки тому +8

    I think it's interesting how John views his past with the gang in this game. It's obvious that he knows Dutch did wrong and went off the rails but I think a part of him is still very nostalgic about it. He romanticizes the gangs actions in his head as stealing from those who had to much and giving to those who had to little, which as we see in RDR2 is barley true. The whole Robin Hood with spurs thing may have been the gangs intentions at first, but I think it was just an excuse by Dutch to rob and kill anyone he deemed fit.

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +8

      There's an old newspaper clipping and camp dialogue that confirm that the gang used to have that "Robin Hood" mentality.
      RDR 2's gang is not the gang at it's prime, it's their decline.

    • @drewwar9344
      @drewwar9344 2 роки тому +3

      Rdr2 was the last few months of the gang we can read they were a robin hood gang

    • @terminallumbago6465
      @terminallumbago6465 2 роки тому +1

      We saw that in the RDR2 epilogue, him struggling to put that life behind him.

  • @dermoooojj255
    @dermoooojj255 2 роки тому +1

    Enjoying your playthrough having not played the game since its original release ✌️

  • @theicelander06
    @theicelander06 2 роки тому +1

    Most people think The Strange Man is the devil himself

    • @BH02377
      @BH02377 2 роки тому +1

      Or God, himself.

  • @Lasher667
    @Lasher667 2 роки тому +1

    I wrote this on twitter but I'll post it here as well for more visibility: this game (and the dlc) is leaving the Playstation streaming service on October 17 and will not be accessible after that.
    If you already finished the game then it doesn't matter but if you haven't you'll have to make some tough choices in the next few weeks.

  • @Grayghost10564
    @Grayghost10564 Рік тому +1

    Don't 4get Cyn the more you collect from animal skins 99 and plants and chicken eggs 99 all colors. White, Brown and Gold. Feverfkow 99 and Desert saige 99 btw Cyn please be very careful with Warthogs Wolves and not to mention Cougars who can kill you with 1 smack

  • @boffgirl
    @boffgirl 2 роки тому +3

    Did i just kill a zombie??
    Wait till you see the zombie dlc

  • @twilightwalker3260
    @twilightwalker3260 2 роки тому

    Ok, guess top hat man is not a surprise anymore.

  • @Grayghost10564
    @Grayghost10564 Рік тому +1

    God bless you Cyn your game page is truly awesome ❤😊❤

  • @TrigunNaruto
    @TrigunNaruto 2 роки тому +1

    Seth might not be a cannibal but he is a raving loon.

  • @theicelander06
    @theicelander06 2 роки тому

    Almost all of Bonnies brothers are buried at coots chapel and Herbert moons brother is there aswell. Oh and also a cowboy with no name is on one of the graves and that obviously is a reference to Clint Eastwood

  • @jpbreeze44
    @jpbreeze44 2 роки тому

    Little tip: As you're aiming from the left shoulder, you can change it by using the d-pads. Left for, well, left. Right for right.

  • @almonbarylski2208
    @almonbarylski2208 4 місяці тому

    It's actually said the strange man follows aurther or John in rdr2 at night while he's killing

  • @Carl_Frank
    @Carl_Frank 2 роки тому

    I don't know if someone's already said this, but the racing carts and crowd were there when you passed, you were just looking the wrong direction to see them, being focused on figuring out what the structures were off on the right. You probably already realized this, but I'm just being "that guy".

  • @stuartk1731
    @stuartk1731 2 роки тому

    Love your channel and streams and play throughs I love Red Dead Redemption I hope you get through 2022 I love to see more October Halloween I love to see more soon Stuart here

  • @comedyloverism
    @comedyloverism 2 роки тому

    I hope you are ok Cyn. we need you!

  • @ZombieATAT
    @ZombieATAT 2 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised you've had two crashes using the streaming service. I experienced a little de-sync playing Fallout 3 when PS Now was in it's infancy but nothing notable since. It's not too long since I played this on the Pro and other than it's age, it ran fine.
    Yeah, Rockstar used to have a pretty unique approach to re-creating the world. It often ranged from brutal extremism, to just escaped from the asylum. They pushed the boundaries of acceptability in most of their releases.
    As much as Canis Canem Edit and L.A. Noire showed that they could develop more grounded work, it was the hard hitting titles that really elevated Rockstar. A lot of long-term fans are still worried by the departure of Leslie Benzies, Dan Houser and Lazlow. Hopefully the future isn't too bland.
    Despite what the spiteful morons say, the GTA definitive trilogy is well worth playing and undoubtedly Rockstar's most iconic content. None of the GTA titles are critically related, you don't need any prior knowledge to play V for example.

  • @giantgilamonster
    @giantgilamonster 2 роки тому +15

    Why do you take so long between episodes of playing RDR? This is THE game.

  • @comedyloverism
    @comedyloverism 2 роки тому +1

    Nigel kind of sounds like Hosea.

  • @dragonjuice2052
    @dragonjuice2052 2 роки тому

    The next few missions are quite good the Seth ones fun

  • @ianfant8065
    @ianfant8065 2 роки тому +1

    Damn, the first game was pretty creepy

  • @tonydaza8504
    @tonydaza8504 2 роки тому +2

    25:11 John is heartless in this game with his character not just how you betray with the gameplay in free roam but how he behaves with his character he just doesn’t put up with bullshit unless it’s his wife Abigail

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't say he's "heartless", since it's clear he cares about people like Bonnie, Jenny and other characters that appear later on in the story.
      He's just tired of all the bullshit the government is putting him through and he has no time for other people's nonsense, specially when he knows he's being used by them (looking at you West Dickens).

  • @AaronWilson55
    @AaronWilson55 2 роки тому

    The Strange Man arrives!

  • @ryomario90
    @ryomario90 2 роки тому +1

    1:30:22 shit went from 0 to 100 in a second

  • @ebrahim_al_mutawa
    @ebrahim_al_mutawa 2 роки тому +1

    Lol if you think Seth is weird in this game then just wait till you see him in Red Dead Undead Nightmare

  • @wesleyrodgers886
    @wesleyrodgers886 2 роки тому +1

    I liked...
    Born an angel. Died a witch.
    Savage.

  • @joshuajackson472
    @joshuajackson472 2 роки тому +2

    I've been reading Gone With the Wind...amazing book, great read.
    I get the strong impression the writers of rdr and rdr2 read that book as well.
    In addition to plenty of others was well, from Oliver Twist to Treasure Island to Robin Hood.
    These 2 games have the best writing I've ever experienced.

  • @ohyes54
    @ohyes54 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe you noticed in the edit but in the house in Tumbleweed you ran past a chest. Probobly nothing too interesting in it though.

  • @Ffourteen
    @Ffourteen 2 роки тому +1

    Is it okay to put tips in the comments? First I'd say you can buy a deed for the Kentucky Saddler at the general store now that you have broken one and get it back if it dies. But you also have the deed to the war horse and might use that horse instead, both are very good. Second I'd say you can buy the room upstairs of the Armadillo saloon and use it to save so you don't have to ride back to Bonnie's ranch. You can also buy rooms at Rathskeller Fork and Thieves Landing. Third it isn't too hard to do the first five hunter challenges and it unlocks the buffalo rifle which is a one shot kill. It works especially well with Dead Eye level 2, since Dead Eye skips reloading. The hunting is something you could do off screen. Also I would say most guns you can get in missions or from gang hideouts, there are only two or three you can only get from the gunsmiths. Nothing worse than buying a volcanic, then picking up another one off the leader of Twin Rocks.

  • @John-996
    @John-996 2 роки тому

    Thats what I like about john he has no fucks given at times haha. Glad you also got to meet Seth haha. One thing I love about this game and RDR2 is each person has the own sense of whats right and wrong. Seth is crazy but makes really good points about stealing from the dead Vs the living.

  • @tonydeluna8095
    @tonydeluna8095 2 роки тому +2

    Hello Cyn! I hope you had a wonderful birthday! God bless and keep up the good work 💛

  • @Richboi89
    @Richboi89 2 роки тому

    It’s the strange man not too hat man lol 😂

  • @kristjaangaming1935
    @kristjaangaming1935 2 роки тому

    according to the rdr wiki
    A Pardon Letter is an official document that assures legitimate clemency for an individual's crime or crimes.
    Its looks like its real think
    That you can have
    in real life

  • @BluDrmKuh
    @BluDrmKuh 2 роки тому +2

    I'm certain Arthur's story has nothing to do with the first game so when John talks about his old life he most likely means the events before 1899 I don't think rockstar Intended to make Arthur a main character for the second game while they were developing rdr1

  • @twigwidge
    @twigwidge 2 роки тому +1

    You can make a camp and use fast travel. Keep shooting knee caps pls 😄

  • @Sataandagi96
    @Sataandagi96 2 роки тому +2

    26:31 ... Weeeeeeeeeeeeell...

  • @joeaa6308
    @joeaa6308 2 роки тому +1

    That was Russian boris the bullet dodger

  • @Clonetrooper19961
    @Clonetrooper19961 2 роки тому

    Great gameplay as always.

  • @Pir-o
    @Pir-o 2 роки тому

    Oh u playing rdr1 now? Well it's time to subscribe
    Also, after you are done with rdr1 and undead nightmare, I hope you gonna give us a bonus episode of RDR2, see all the things you missed

  • @Richboi89
    @Richboi89 2 роки тому

    You know you can sell gold bars and pelts at general store you can make a bunch of money they don’t have fences in this game like in rdr2

  • @Tysman909
    @Tysman909 Рік тому

    I saved all 21 cows. Just need to be fast to beat the herd

  • @Tysman909
    @Tysman909 Рік тому

    You missed callander boys tombstones its reference from rdr2

  • @Richboi89
    @Richboi89 2 роки тому

    Hitch your horse and sleep your health will replenish and if you have a horses with no saddle it will saddle automatically and save a permanent horse. And btw the horses are all males and they don’t have names lol 😂

  • @hogesau
    @hogesau 2 роки тому

    Yoooouu Jackass comment to the horses made me laugh haha

    • @hogesau
      @hogesau 2 роки тому

      and the cheeseburger one to the cows, today 😂

  • @fabian5813
    @fabian5813 2 роки тому +1

    Why Are You Playing This So Different Than RDR2?
    You’re Not Exploring At All, You’re Just Going From Main Mission To Main Mission
    Like If You’re Just Trying To Rush Through It

  • @FlopsyHamster
    @FlopsyHamster 2 роки тому +2

    There are a lot of theories as to who Top Hat Man, aka The Strange Man, is. Unfortunately, most people decide who he is after their first time encountering him, and then never bother to re-evaluate it after they're presented with new information. The first time I encountered him, I thought he was The Devil. Others think he's God, or Death, or The Grim Reaper. But he's none of those things.
    He's Jack Marston, traveling back in time.
    We know there's a time traveler, in RDR2, and he's travelling back from the 1930's, which would be about the same time Jack would be travelling back from. Jack would have the secret to time travel because it was in Arthur's diary. Everything The Strange Man knows about John and the Dutch Van Der Linde gang is in Arthur's diary, including the fate of Jimmy Brooks, which is written on the table in the cabin with the painting of The Strange Man in RDR2. When he meets John, he says "I wish I had better guidance in life." Why would The Devil, or God, or Death say that to John? That's something Jack would say to him.
    Listen to the dialogue during the next encounter with him. The only person he can be is Jack Marston.

    • @drewwar9344
      @drewwar9344 2 роки тому

      That makes no sense why would Jack know a random man who's about to sleep with the prostitute and cheat on his wife

    • @DovahFett
      @DovahFett 2 роки тому

      I think you forget a "/s" somewhere in there.
      Time travel doesn't explain away _anything_ that happens during John's last encounter with the Strange Man, so it looks like you're the one who never bothered to reevaluate. Not to mention that Jack looks *nothing* like the Strange Man. They have completely different facial structures, and a few decade's worth of aging wouldn't change the shape of your skull.

    • @FlopsyHamster
      @FlopsyHamster 2 роки тому

      @@DovahFett That depends on how time travel works in the game. We never see it actually happening. And you're applying real-world logic to a game. They're not played by the same actors, so there's no reason to make them look alike.
      Re-read all of his dialogue, and you'll see that it only makes sense if he is Jack. Why does John think he knows him? Why does he seem to know the future. Why would God or The Devil say "sometimes I just wish I knew more about life. I wish I'd had better guidance"?

  • @rawwvibes1115
    @rawwvibes1115 2 роки тому

    Loving it 😂

  • @galaxywolf969
    @galaxywolf969 2 роки тому

    Hi Cyn, hope you had a wonderful birthday!

  • @snaak25
    @snaak25 2 роки тому

    Did you find Sister yet?

  • @chris1995-l8w
    @chris1995-l8w 2 місяці тому

    38:21

  • @josemanuelzalasar3910
    @josemanuelzalasar3910 2 роки тому

    do yo have play shadow of the colosus ? and by the way, the NPC's in this game are crazy and the side mission para normal🤣🤣

  • @northeastokwari1889
    @northeastokwari1889 2 роки тому

    Its not complete yet the top hat hes not the devil though

  • @Richboi89
    @Richboi89 2 роки тому

    Use aim assist it’s much easier to shoot

  • @grichard1585
    @grichard1585 2 роки тому

    I've tried to play this game 3 different times and can't last more than 3 or 4 hours...it's just too boring...and I just don't care about any of the characters. Maybe I have ADHD.

  • @jinxthatsme2317
    @jinxthatsme2317 2 роки тому +1

    48:31 This is where the game’s story really feels disconnected from RDR2 in my opinion. Throughout RDR1 you’ll hear John mention that Dutch’s gang was charitable and exuded qualities of Robin Hood. This is something seemingly forgotten by the writers in RDR2.
    There’s actually some hidden dialogue that’s missable in this mission where John mentions Dutch by name, crediting him for educating everyone in the gang and talks about they all saw themselves as revolutionaries of the west that were trying to induce some sort of change in the way America functioned. A somewhat socialist philosophy.
    *West Dickens: I have always been a maverick, John, unshackled by society’s norms. A spiritual bohemian with a head for business. A transcendentalist, you might even say. I’m heavily influenced by the work of Waldo Emerson.*
    *John: Another fool with his head in the clouds.*
    *West Dickens: Are you telling me you could read? You continue to surprise me, John Marston.*
    *John: A little. And why’s that so surprising?*
    *West Dickens: Well…er…you don’t have what I’d call the classic appearance of a man of education.*
    *John: I thought you were an open-minded bohemian?*
    *West Dickens: Oh, but I am. I just…er…well, never mind. So, where did you school?*
    *John: Haha, school? Nowhere. The leader of the gang I was in, a fella called Dutch, he taught us all how to read. Taught us there was a different way to live. He had a vision of the west becomin' some kind of savage utopia, turnin' bad men into doers of good deeds. And, for a while, we all believed him.*
    *West Dickens: How deliciously quaint. And what happened to Butch the Visionary?*
    *John: Dutch. Just another dreamer who woke up, I suppose. After he realized humanity was never gonna change, he lost faith in it. He spoke about as fine as you, and was about as full of shit.*

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +9

      You're incorrect, actually.
      Boggles my mind how some people don't realize that RDR 2 only chronicles the last few months of Dutch's gang, so we only saw their decline and absolute low point as a group in that game.
      We've only seen like what, the last 5/6 months (if that) of the gang's history? The gang was active for 20 years, ffs... There's PLENTY about the gang that we don't know about (there's even a camp conversation in which it's implied that there used to be more members in the gang that we know nothing about).
      And no, the "Robin Hood" thing is totally addressed in RDR 2: there's an old newspaper clipping in Arthur's tent that states how 3 masked men (implied to be young Dutch, Hosea and Arthur) robbed a small town bank and gave the money to the homeless people of the area.
      There's also a camp conversation in which Arthur says to John: "Remember when we used to help people?" And John responds: "Yeah... I guess that stopped happening a while ago", confirming that they used to help people quite a lot back in the old days.
      Arthur even says to Sadie: "We rob fools that rob other people. These people [the citizens of Rhodes], they're just trying to get by".
      There's a conversation between Arthur and Dutch, during one of Eagle Flies' missions, in which Arthur questions Dutch's bullshit plan of "helping the Indians" telling him that "it's been a while since we've helped anyone but ourselves, and even you know that" (again, confirmation that they used to help people).
      There's also a low honor conversation with Sadie in which Arthur tells the story of how when he was a teenager he robbed a poor man, which caused Dutch to go bananas on him, telling him "that man was too poor" and that "taking from him was no different from the system [they] was fighting against".
      It's all in there, mate. You just have to look for it.
      Both games have the same writers, so I highly doubt they would just forget their own lore, lol.

    • @jinxthatsme2317
      @jinxthatsme2317 2 роки тому

      @@b.u.l.1734 You’re not wrong but I definitely think the Robin Hood philosophy should’ve been the highlight of the story given how much emphasis John puts on that detail in the first game. He made it sound like it was the sole purpose of the gang and that they truly believed they were changing the world for the better.
      He also still agreed with a lot of Dutch’s principles and that Dutch losing faith in his own ideologies is ultimately what drove him insane. Yet RDR2 kind of retcons/contradicts this idea by having John believe Dutch was always a bad man that showed his true colors as time went on when that was far from the truth in the original game.
      In RDR1, John, much like everyone else in the gang, seemed just as brainwashed by Dutch for most of the story and didn’t really change his mind until much later on in the game after gaining some new perspective in a different country, seeing history repeat itself over there. And, even then, he still somewhat defends the man Dutch used to be.
      That’s just my two-cents though. You can choose to agree or disagree with me but it’s definitely something I personally found inconsistent about John and the gang between the two games.

    • @b.u.l.1734
      @b.u.l.1734 2 роки тому +7

      @@jinxthatsme2317
      Again, it's fully established in both games that the gang used to give money to the poor. It's not the "highlight" of RDR 2's narrative 'cause the story isn't about that, it's about the last days of the gang and the downfall of their moral code.
      Makes sense John still has some good things to say about Dutch, 'cause he was raised by him!
      He also has some good things to say about Bill and Javier, despite leaving him for dead all those years ago. They were once like a family to John. That's hard for a person to get over.
      It's only natural for John to remember the good times.
      If you were part of a "Robin Hood"-like group for more or less 20 years, what would you talk about more: the 98% of the gang's history, where you were "Robin Hood" or the last 3 months or so of the gang's life when it's ideals went to the shitter?
      John's line from RDR 2 saying that "Dutch was always a bad man" is just there to foreshadow Dutch's redemption moment when he shoots Micah. That moment there showed John that the man who raised him is still in there somewhere.
      After that event, it makes total sense that John changes his mind about him, so much so that he refers to him as "a good man, in a way" in RDR 1 (he still doesn't like him, though, considering how he talks about him later on in the game when he meets him again).
      When in RDR 1 is established that John "was brainwashed for most of the story"? That's just pure nonsense...
      He very clearly resents his old gang members, so I don't know where you're coming from with that point.
      It's clearly stated in RDR 1 that John saw through Dutch's bullshit way before people like Bill and Javier did:
      Abigail: "That life we lived was just a lie, and you saw it before they did".
      John: "I know, but they was still family...".
      Abigail: "A family that left you for dead! You knew the truth John, and they hated you for it".
      John got over Dutch long before RDR 1's events, lol.

    • @drewwar9344
      @drewwar9344 2 роки тому

      @@jinxthatsme2317 You can read newspapers about how the gang would help people RDR2 Are the last few months of the gang who are desperate cornered animals If they ever make a prequel to RDR2 taking place way earlier than the black water robbery or leading up to it I'm sure we'll see The gang being Robin hood

    • @joelmillerscaved-inhead2059
      @joelmillerscaved-inhead2059 2 роки тому +4

      @@b.u.l.1734 Facts.
      Some people need to pay more attention to the story...

  • @flickthebean2124
    @flickthebean2124 2 роки тому

    Listen lady, I love your playthrough but you talk ish about homeboy Seth again and I will... Well I'm not sure, but you'll get what's coming to ya!

  • @muhamedmisini6688
    @muhamedmisini6688 2 роки тому

    Sorry Have you Instagram 🙂

    • @drbanemortem4155
      @drbanemortem4155 2 роки тому

      No but she has a twitter,twitch, pateron and discord accounts !!! come join us at cyn city

  • @dragonjuice2052
    @dragonjuice2052 2 роки тому

    The next few missions are quite good the Seth ones fun