“Daikin ONE thermostat is JUNK” 😬
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- In this video we break down the in's and out's of the Daikin one Touch thermostat and give you our two cents on whether or not it's an improvement. The Daikin one Touch thermostat is the thermostat of choice for Daikin Fit systems, and this video is an overview of it's aesthetics, features as well as benefits.
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You talked for over 4 minutes before you talked about the DAKIN One Touch. I really want to learn more about the New Thermostat. Thanks Just Jor
I forgot to mention FWIW we have had no wifi connection issues with our thermostat in 8 months and dont use the wheel because i have never figured out what i would need it for vs using the screen, settings etc.
We have a home with a finished basement and a separate HVAC unit for each floor...3700 sq ft with about 1800 finished for each level. Last November i replaced a builder grade Lennox unit with a pretty pricey Daiken Fit variable unit which came with the apparently infamous Daiken thermostat which has the wheel in it. After about 8 months of usage we love the savings we are seeing in our electric bills, but using the thermostat has been an ongoing nightmare of sorts. I have a service contract with the company i bought the Daiken from here in Georgia and the tech who came out for the summer service call told me my humidity levels are too high on both levels ...he tested them and showed me levels in the mid 50s range. He said i should consider installing a whole home humidifier for $4500....not happening. Anyway while here he turned on an element of the Daiken thermostat which apparently is supposed to lower humidity .I think it does so by lowering the temperature setting for the first floor where the Daiken is ( My builder grade Lennox still works well for the lower leverl). I have become fairly but not totally conversant which how to use the various automated features of the Daiken thermostat but I was and still am unfamiliar with the "dehumidifier element" which can be activated by the thermostat. Unfortunately, we find the dehumidifying element of the system being activated fairly frequently these days...June..July...and when it does it lowers the temperature in the thermostat to a level which makes it a lot colder than we want it to be in our first floor. I need to learn how to turn off the dehumidifier setting in the thermostat because i actually dont think we have a humidity problem in our house, or at least not one which is anywhere near a problem. For example, the humidity in my lower level as i type this is 43% ...based on a weather gizmo i have downstairs which shows the outside humidity at 92%. I am buying a humidity tester for upstairs to monitor the humidity going forward.
My question to you is how do i turn OFF the dehumidifier element of the Daiken wheel thermostat so i can just use our Automatic setting for hot and cold and set it at something like 73 or 74 . With the dehumidifying element working my lips are turning BLUE! Thanks so much for your help. I am now a dedicated subscriber going forward!
It’s a setting to turn off called “overcool to dehumidify” and it should be in the basic settings (meaning you don’t need to go into the installer menu). You can also change the overcool/deadband which basically will overshoot by a few degrees so that you have longer run times and reduces short cycling but my suggestion for comfort to set that to the minimal setting. But turning off “overcool to dehumidify” will fix that other issue
How that wheel made it through any R&D I have no idea …
Hey, I'm trying to find out if my unit: Daiken FTX12NMVJUA is compatible with third party thermostats at all like the nest thermostat or if i'm stuck with the daiken offerings. Thanks
I have the new Daikin One Touch and it can't deal with dual band wifi. I had to use a wifi extender that only does one band to get it to stay connected. The stupid up and down arrows with slider are tiny, like for fingers of an infant. They really need to adjust the size of the buttons. Take a note from Ecobee.
You’re not alone people have had complaints about the Daikin one and Touch along these lines. I think it’s good feedback, hopefully they listen on future gen stats
I just had the touch installed along with a new system. Just wondering if there is a way to see what equipment is running like the ecobee? I'd love to be able to see if the heat pump is running, or the furnace at a glance. Thank you!
That would be a nice feature and probably a simple update, the easiest way is just based on your changeover temp that way you can tell what’s actually running. Do you know what the changeover temp is set at? If you look at the furnace it’s easy to tell obviously but I know what you’re asking for, for it to show in the app :)
I can confirm one touch doesn't have wif connection issues, I have it for 3+ months now. However, I'm very irritated by the fact Daikin didn't think a remote temp sensor was needed!! they should be offering compatibility with redlink accessories since it's the same base CTK04 system. I might end up getting split unite for the bedroom to get over this. but if they can make C7189R1004 work with Daikin One touch it would be amazing.
I agree the remote sensor is basic, fortunately they’re aware of this and coming out with one soon from what I’ve heard!
@@TheHVACDopeShow as in remote sensor or a new thermostat with remote sensor support?
Can I use my existing ecobee wireless thermostat rather than the One-Touch when I install a new Daikin Fit 5 ton A/C?
Unfortunately No because it’s a communicating system so the thermostat itself is part of how the system ramps up and down
I just had a Daikin FIT system installed with this thermostat. What fan setting is best for the life of the equipment? Fan always on low? On a schedule, or just auto?
Auto probably for life of equipment but it’s not major big wear and tear to use the fan if you want it on 24/7 on low for filtration or circulation, or if you want it on a schedule
I have a new Daikin FIT system in a Fla environment. It is great when it works. I too have been struggling with the installer for over a year now trying to get the ONE+ stat working. It reboots 7-8x day, locks up with “white screen” and loses communication with other systems circuit boards. I can go on and on but if I had known about these issues in advance I wouldn’t have taken the chance on Daikin. I had Trane and Carrier systems for 18, 20 years, respectively and they ran great. Efficiency is great only if the functionality performs.
If you call the local distributor I would ask for a different contractor referral. This sounds like communication issues and potentially poor installation / miswired or not wired in accordance with best practices to get good communication. That sounds like a lemon I’m sorry you’ve had this experience, that’s not the norm by any means
Can you use a ComfortNet CTK04 thermostat instead of a Daikin One Touch for a Daiking Fit system? Are they compatible? Or is there a function that you'd be missing out if you choose ComfortNet over Daikin? Thank you.
WiFi is not native on the CTK04 and you need a sling gateway which is kind of annoying… besides that it’s ok, idk if you’ll like that thermostat any better honestly
@@TheHVACDopeShow Thank you for the response and insight. The thermostat in the master bedroom upstairs is right next to the door which is next to the front foyer. As a result the heat downstairs rises up the foyer to master bedroom. When the heat downstairs is set to 67, the temperature on the upstairs thermostat reads 67 even though the thermostat is set to 62. As a result the upstairs heat won’t turn on unless I set it above the temperature downstairs.
Looking to either relocate the thermostat or put in a remote sensor (not available in Daikin). That was my reason for the question. 😃
Can you replace the Daikin touch on a system currently with a wired BRC1E73
I’m 90% sure on this but if you are using a BRC my guess is this is on a VRV life system is that correct? If so double check because it technically has a gateway module so it’s a little different setup. I’ll have to check with the parts house to refresh my memory but the Daikin one has a + version for VRV systems, and I believe they came out with a touch as well!
Hello, Daikin One Touch keeps going offline, and asks to reset thermostat, which can not be done remotely, any reliable solution?
Firmware update? Idk if you’re connected to a specific network that’s 2.4 vs. 5 ghz but if you try connecting to a different network frequency (sometimes routers broadcast at 2 frequencies) this can make a difference. Sorry you’re having this happen, normally it resolves after sometime and then stops falling offline, this happened in the beginning when I installed one at our house but then resolved itself after a couple times
I have two new Ecobe premium thermostats. It handles up to two stage a/c systemsl And they really do learn and help save money. I really like it but I’m wondering what heat pumps are compatible with it (and my Rheem a/c’s and natural gas furnaces) since I’d like to upgrade to much more efficient heat pumps.
Bosch systems but that would replace your condenser coil at a minimum, and furnace if you’re looking for the tax credit / efficiency ratings for a matchup
building 2 bed guest house with Daikin 3 zone mini split system (FTXR18TVJUW) considering this tstat, is it the only “smart” wall option?
Mini splits don’t use this thermostat no they use some sort of remote control typically. If you’re wanting something hardwired for the thermostat there’s options but the heads ship with a remote usually
And for WiFi you add a WiFi module in the head that allows it to connect to WiFi / be controlled remotely through an app
They do have remotes, I’m looking for an alternative wall mount smart option.
I live in South Florida, very humid, and am looking at either a Daikin FIT or Carrier unit for my house, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated..
Daikin Fit is our preference but either are great name brands so you won’t have an issue getting parts or people to service them
I have a new Daikin FIT system in a similar environment. It is great when it works. I too have been struggling with the installer for over a year now trying to get the ONE+ stat working. It reboots 7-8x day, locks up with “white screen” and loses communication with other systems circuit boards. I can go on and on but if I had known about these issues in advance I wouldn’t have taken the chance on Daikin. I had Trane and Carrier systems for 18, 20 years, respectively and they ran great. Efficiency is great only if the functionality performs.
So the one plus has a dial, light bar and 2 aux. The One Touch has 1 aux and no dial or light bar. I assume the internal parts are exactly the same, so besides getting rid of the ugly wheel, I don't think it would be worth upgrading to the one touch. They both have 3.5" screens. If you are a new install makes sense to get the one touch.
I would agree, I didn’t realize the screen wasn’t bigger, seems that way at a glance when you see one but it’s just because the wheel is gone I guess
I own a FIT heat pump with a propane furnace as backup, I have this thermostat and would love to see energy consumption metrics. My old Carrier system had this.
That would be a nice feature I agree!
I recently got a Dakin fit system installed in Canada, I use to have Honeywell wifi thermostat that was 6 years old and has way more functionality and the UI is way better. you mentioned that dakin is based off the Honeywell thermostat. Can I go back to my old thermostat?
CTK04 thermostat technically yes I believe but would have to verify… we never do that because it’s not WiFi capable without a sling gateway for internet
@@TheHVACDopeShowlooked up the CTK04, quick google sounds possible. Mine has an almost identical UI but is slightly different. It was just called "Wifi smart Thermostat" with a M# RTH9580WF, they left behind the old thermostat for me. I might ask them later.
Just curious how are you finding the thermostat and the Daikin fit AC now that you’ve been using them for a bit. I’m trying to decide between Daikin fit and Trane AC, I have limited room, so leaning towards the Fit but I’m apprehensive about the thermostat.
@@suspiciousm works alright. I miss the snappy and intuitive UI on the Honeywell. The Dakin for sure is more clunky and slow. And things I could do with one or two presses take 3-4 presses. Also things like extra noise level adjustments are buried under the admin level
@@stevesurf22 that’s not very reassuring..lol.
Thank you for responding, appreciate it.
I realize it would depend on the dealer but i wonder how much it might cost to upgrade to the new thermostat and if it would be worth it.
Idk if it would be worth it to upgrade. I have the OG models in my house and office because I use my phone app primarily and I’m perfectly content with the original models. If I was reinstalling I would go for the touch but IMO I wouldn’t upgrade it based on my usage
I have a new VRV system installed last year and this thermostat set up is terrible. It has no alerts and as mentioned by others it is clunky. I’ve heard rumours of a possible module that I could potentially add to connect an Ecobee instead? Also, is there anyway to get room sensors connected to the Daikin One? Honestly, if I had known this thermostat, was this bad I wouldn’t of bought the entire system.
Yeah I don’t blame you, I use the app mostly and find it works for my needs vs. the thermostat itself is not great
I would have liked more details about how the communicating thermostats work and compatible systems. What makes these thermostats so much better than something like an ecobee or nest.
I just had a new 4 ton system installed - AMVE air handler with ASZV9 condenser. The installers spent all day messing around with the thermostat and were having major issues. The thermostat they were trying to install (and presumably provided by their vendor who they got the equipment from) was incompatible with the condenser (looked like the white one in your video). I'm not fully up to speed but it sounds like the the thermostat they were trying to install was a communicating stat but couldn't control the condenser. So they put my old ecobee back in and went through a lot of power down and power up cycles to reset the system such that the AMVE will do the control. But i believe i'm losing a lot of detailed features and functionality by not using a communicating thermostat.
They are trying to get me the new Amana smart touch screen thermostat but seem to be having issues locating one for me. Just feels really bad having this many issues right off the bat with the Amana/Goodman system and making me question if i should have gone with the Carrier Infinity series and gotten better support/integration/installation. Company doing the Amana install has been in business for 100+ years and very reputable in my area, but maybe this is just teething pains with these brand new high end systems. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth with how much we are paying for this system, and the fact that i am spending more for the Amana system than i would have for a Carrier Infinity system as i wanted to go with the company that's been around longer.
Oftentimes communicating issues are the wiring if it’s not picking up the condenser. This is true with all manufacturers… It sounds like they are waiting for now but are going to put in a communicating thermostat once they figure out the issue? 90% of the time it’s communication issues related to wiring or the wires used. If they run a stranded wire to the condenser they will get better communication. This is why VRV units use stranded wires because you get much better communication / signal that way. I would maybe pass that along because I’ve heard that can help. Anytime we’ve had communication issues / not picking up condensers it’s usually wiring. Because if the wire is connected and double lugged into the Phoenix connector they’ll have issues vs. having a single wire going to the Phoenix connector, and then having the communication wires meeting in a wire nuts. Hope this helps them resolve it I would pass that along. What city / state are you in? I may be able to find some support for you and pass this along
@@TheHVACDopeShow I'm in central texas.
they ran a new wire set from the air handler to the condenser along with the new line set. I do believe the wire set is solid core and not stranded, i'll take a look if anything is double lugged. ecobee stat is working fine. original stat they tried to use was the CTK04 but according to the Amana rep on the phone said that stat was not compatible with the ASZV9 condensor. I'm now waiting on the ATST-CWE-BL-A thermostat which does indicate in its datasheet that it is compatible with the ASZV9 condensor.
I hate how they're vertical, selling a 20k system and the most customer facing aspect has old paint and drywall anchors showing
There’s a faceplate normally to cover what’s behind it or we can send out handyman for patch and paint normally
I don't know why so many heat pumps only use handheld remotes or smartphone app. I still have a gas fired force air furnace system with Sensi 24vac wifi thermostat that has never dropped wifi connection. I am worried that when I switch to a heat pump that I will lose my Sensi easy to use super reliable interface.
It depends on which heat pump but most the inverter heat pumps use communicating thermostats. The remotes you’re referencing are for ductless systems usually. Some systems let you keep the thermostat I believe Mitsubishi is one
Should I use the daiken app or the nest app on my nest thermostat
Nest is the only one that works with nest
@@TheHVACDopeShow I'm sorry I didn't understand that, you mean I can't use my existing Ecobee with the Daikin Fit 3.0 ton ?
Why not fix the wi-fi issue? This typically occurs with electrical transduction between the 24vac and 2.8-2.2vdc circuit. Instead of using an 18/4 shielded bundle use 2-18/2 shielded bundles isolating the VAC from the VDC conductors with only the VDC circuit shield tied back to the legacy C terminal within the indoor unit. Watch 98% of your communication issues disappear! Why struggle constantly resetting items?
I agree on the communication issues but that’s separate from WiFi? Communication is from the data 1 / data 2 terminals unless you’re talking about something different
Oh my goodness, there’s other people out here that hate this piece of junk?!? I’m not alone!!!
You’re not alone! Lol… new one is better but yeah idk it’s a common point of contention, I personally don’t think it’s that bad or any worse than any other thermostat but I’m now “wowed” by it by any means
My Daikin thermostat is on, but just has a banner "Daikin" going across the screen. Wheel does nothing and touch does nothing. AC keeps blasting, but I can't change a thing. Less than a year old.
Is it updating? Or has it been like that for hours/days? Sometimes the firmware/software updates and you’ll see that, or if it’s rebooting but it shouldn’t stay there forever
@@TheHVACDopeShow I have no idea what it was doing. Maybe it was. It's back to working normal. I "thought" it started working because I started working through the phone app. But maybe it was updating? Thanks for the response. It probably did that for around 2 hours? That's a guess. Thanks again
Daikin should buy ecobee!
Asks a question. Answers with “I’ll get back to that in a minute.” Over and over again. Try staying on topic without all these asides. They’re uber annoying man