Lots of good info here. I did find the music very loud and distracted me from what you were saying sometimes. I am like the weebill lab too so far and agree the phone holder should come with it!
Mr Bloom! Thank you! That's such a valuable feedback since I'm just getting started on UA-cam. It's the small things like the phone holder that makes a difference. 😂
I definitely agree with both the fact that this was a good video and that the music was a bit tough at times... believe me I've been there too, my most popular video with almost 200k views now had the same issue 🤷♂️I should be getting my weebill next week. I'm excited to try it out!
@@dunnadidit thanks for the feedback and letting me know about your experience. I'm really excited about picking my next UA-cam video soundtrack and leveling that volume. Hope you like your new gimbal next week!
Just as an FYI, B&H only sells ONE version of the Weebil, the base kit that only includes the gimbal alone. The 'creator kit' version has the phone mount included but you won't be seeing it on B&H specifically.
I am a Weeble owner. I've had challenges with occasional jitters which has been frustrating. You think you have a perfect shot, only to find out later there has been a sudden motor movement. I have spent a lot of time working with settings, but I think it's the nature of the gimbal. Also, it's important to point out some quality concerns. Straight out of the box I had a problem with the plate tightening screws. Zhyun was kind enough to send a replacement part from China. Also, it would no longer start up after about 4 weeks of use and needed to be sent in for repair. The insured shipping (at my cost) is expensive. If I had to do it over I would definitely buy something more rugged and time tested. I would only recommend to someone who absolutely needs the small size and has some money to burn for eventual repairs.
I'm going to be one of those annoying people who comments "I was here at under 400 subs!" in a few months when you blow up 📷😆 I love my weebill lab, but your comments are very true. Im also assuming the live view won't work on android because I can't get it to work at all yet!
Wow! Thank you Emily! I'm sure someone said the same thing about you when you were at under 400 subs! :) I should have clarified that I have only tried this on an iPhone. I hear lot of people are having issues with the app so I hope Zhiyun will update their apps and their update to make sure it's solid soon!
hi @@jimmyhidalgo2680 , Sony FE 28-70 mm kit lens is only 295 grams. Rode mic will make it more top heavy but that kind of light setup should be no problem with this gimbal. I have seen some wobbly sample footage, and I think it really depends on the operator. I walk like a ninja and keep the gimbal close to my body as much as possible. That setup should not be a problem. It also helps a little if you tilt the gimbal towards your body while walking. Complete 90 degree angle transfers your feet contacting the ground. I'll try to do a tutorial on this in the near future on my channel. Thanks for asking!
@zhiyun-tech: I own the Weebill and have big issue to operate it in follow mode. When I holding the Weebill I always accidentally activate the Joystick. It drive me nuts! Is there a chance to deactivate the joystick?
Love ur video man, simplicity is good . I really hope I can see ur other footage from this weebill 👍🏼 And yeah agreed that the phone holder should come with it..
Thank you Mr Kerupuk! I had couple paid shoots with this already and I will be filming more this coming weekend. I'll upload some non-slow mo footage with the custom settings I made. B&H is now offering free phone holder when you purchase a Weebill. Haha, they caught on LOL.
Just ordered this and was real worried about the 35 1.4 not holding well since it makes it front heavy...glad I ran into this vid! In the end i just need a stabilizer that's compact and does what it's intended to do...stabilize image. All those other features are just gimmicks. At this price point, I'll take it for what it is.
great review man! please keep up to the arca swiss problem and let us know if there is a solution. I have seen lots of comments about this. especially when it comes to peak design plates. thanks
I know this video is a year old but have to say you gave a lot of good information , like you mentioned the weight of your setup 3 lbs and mind is under 2 lbs . I’m just using the Weebel lab for vacations and videos of the grandkids I know have to be careful with a small gimbal. Thanks you enjoy watching your channel.
Se Park's "Real World Test" = 7 minutes of talking and 8 seconds of Slo Mo (Sigh) gimbal footage. So for all the mathematicians out there who wondered how much actual real world test's we see in this video I am here to tell you that the answer is: ZERO
@@SePark Haha, to be fair you've made an excellent video about the quick release and several features. Also touched on how cumbersome it was to upgrade the firmware as well as certain aspects of the motors which is good!! I think what a lot of people want to know is if the Weebill is actually stable with a setup close to the rated 6lb's (3KG) No other reviewer has mentioned the motor setting e.g high, medium or low when doing these tests. With my Crane 2 I thought I needed my motors set to high when using my A7III + Zeiss 35 1.4 combo but it jittered a lot. I set it to medium and funnily enough it performed much better. Perhaps your next video can include other tips like this to say which motor setting works best. Also another thing is that with the Crane 2 Zhiyun didn't officially say that you can control the ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed on Sony Cameras using the gimbal controls however there was an easy trick that made it work (Using a Canon cable and changing a few settings on the A7III) If you can try this trick to see if it works with the Weebill or not then I think you will be one of the first to tell us and I'm sure a lot of Sony users will want to know :) Keep up the videos though. Great editing and information
@@christianlionel1988 Haha, that's an awesome information. I was thinking of topics to cover on my second Weebill Lab video, and I think you just hit the nail on the head. Appreciate you taking your time to comment. Looking forward to making that second video!
@@SePark Definitely :) I do apologise for my first comment though I was really joking more than anything =P Seriously though I'm impressed with the quality of your video and I think you'll have a good following reaching ten's of thousands of subs soon :) As this gimbal is new definitely keep churning out more videos on the Weebill. You can do battery life tests, talk about the Go/Sport Mode which is another thing that no one has touched on much yet. How it compares to say a Ronin S in sport mode (if you know anyone who has a Ronin S borrow it for a day to test ;)
@@christianlionel1988 no worries! I enjoyed your first comment. I thought it was truthful and funny, which is kinda the theme I am going for. Thanks for the encouragement. You come up with some good video topics. If I reach a thousand sub, you definitely played a part in it!
thanks for pointing out the arca swiss stuff. i'll keep my v2 crane with a small hd focus rig for now. I wish they would just partner with peak design to make those plates compatible with a quick release system.
I feel ya Kenneth! That's why I had to mention that on my video. It's little nitpicking, but I try to talk about what most UA-cam videos don't talk about on their reviews. It's hard to tell how that plate works just looking at the product photos. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Keep it! I just bought one, still waiting to be shipped though. The setup I am going to use weights the same as the one you had it. I am happy it worked well. Thanks mate
Please do the additional video that you talked about where you go over the settings. I have bought the gimbal, and also find the app a bit confusing with the phone mode, and the phone controller mode. I want to make the panning slower, and the dead zone larger to avoid those sudden pan moves that happen with older gimbals. I'm interested in seeing what you think works best. Totally agree that it is crazy that you have to exit the Phone Control mode to get to the Phone View mode to change those settings. Good review. Nice and fast paced. Well done and thanks!
Have you noticed that when the camera is connected to the gimbal by usb you can’t access playback? So you have to unplug the cable every time you want to check the shot! I’ve got it setup as PC Remote for the A7III.
I notice the footage you showed was in slow mo. That will totally help with the "smooth butter" but do you have any footage in real time? Great Video. Thanks for making it.
Hi Andy, yes I should upload some non-slo mo clips too. I'm sure some people will use this in real time FPS. Almost all of my gimbal applications are in slo-mo so I didn't think of that. My next gimbal video will cover real time FPS and how to get smoother gimbal movements. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Awesome review! I have exactly the same problem except my Zhiyun Crane v2 just died right before a gig started (handheld it is then). Damn thing is out of stock in UK though!
Thanks James! I always wondered what I would do if my gimbal died right before a gig.... I have a Glidecam collecting dust but I'm sure so is my skill using it. LOL
I ended up getting a lighter 1/4 in mount handle from Amazon. It's called CAMVATE Handle. My thought behind it was I would never stand up the Weebill from the upper side and the handle is light enough that I don't mind just having it mounted the whole time. Currently making another Weebill video so I'll show what this looks like on a video. Whatever handle you get, if you have big hands, there is a chance your hand won't fit between it.
Great review! I like your humor (whaaaa?) 😜 I have the A7s mk1 w 28.2 lens and was wondering if you can plug in a cable to the camera and adjust focus manually with the wheel on the gimbal? I can’t afford the A7mk3 yet with that amazing autofocus. Peace!
Hi Jon. I wished that nice metallic focus dial did just that, but with the current app you cannot to my knowledge. I looked through the app up and down looking to see what else it could do. How cool would it be if you customize that focus dial to what you want it to be, like tilt control. Then I'll be really saying "whaaaa?" Thanks for that comment.
Hey man great vid, i just got the weebill and can’t seem to get smooth shots (unlike with my ronin s) even with a light lens setup (a7iii+50mm1.8). The “Six-side Calibration” asks you to position your gimbal + camera in some very awkward positions, any thoughts on that? I’v been using gimbals since the 1st ronin so i know how to balance meticulously so what could i be doing wrong...
Thanks man! That six side calibration is a joke. I tried it, and it took me 10 minutes trying to do yoga with the gimbal. I just uploaded a new UA-cam video on this topic, but you are brave for using a 50 mm on a gimbal. Best lens for this gimbal in my experience so far is F2 Sony 28 mm prime lens.
Se Park Lol yes brave but also necessary as we do a lot of events and a lot of time we need the range to capture people’s expressions without getting too intrusive. Also the 28mm and the 50mm Sony primes weight almost exactly the same which makes them a great pair for run and gun as you can switch between the 2 without the need to rebalance the gimbal. Anyways Brandon Li made a test with a 50mm on, and it does look rather shaky so we might trade the Weebill in for the Crane 3 as soon as it gets on sale here. Thank you for the reply btw. Keep up the awesome vids.
loved the video man, i just ordered my new weebill lab from amazon i have a question though have you had any problems with the gimbal since you bought it? ive heard some people complaining about the gimbal glitchin after 3 weeks i would really apreciate an answer bro 😎
Hey Andrez, I put my Weebill Lab through some torture. Used it on almost every client video shoots since it came out. Still going strong without any issues other than the app. I heard some people having issues but then again, I heard some people having issues with Ronin SC too. To avoid burning the motor, don't turn on the gimbal without a camera on. You probably knew that but something that happens often. Congrats on your new gear. Hope you make some dope videos!! Thanks for your support bro!!
Se Park thanks for the response man, and yes, i have heard that people complain about the app but i was really more concerned about the gimbal Anyways, thanks for the help and keep up the good work 👌🏽🎥
For the quick release problem - have you tried it with the peak design pro plate? It has adapters you screw on each side to make it wider so it is compatible with manfrotto rc2 systems. I'm hoping this makes it wide enough to work with the weebill plate.
Let me know if that works but just by looking at the picture, I can't say it will. I should clarify that the Weebill's Manfrotto plate is the 500 series and not RC2.
Nice video but man that background music is distracting. It’s not in the background, dial it way back and maybe try putting a eq on the track and remove the frequencies wheee your voice sits. Just an idea. Cool video nonetheless
Hi Nick ,you noticed too? I know right?! Bad mistake on my part. Thanks for that feedback. You know I'm going to pay extra attention to my music track level and selection next time... :)
Hey Se, great content! I recently got into vlogging (which doesn't necessarily require a gimbal), but I thought maybe it'd look decent with a nice prime lens. Problem is, I don't like the idea of switching back and froth between the gimbal and the gorillapod. Would you mind making a video, showing how to setup the release plates, and also to list what accessories you'd need to make this work?
Hey Ben! That's awesome you're getting into vlogging. I just made a quick Instagram story for you (@se_what_park). I know it's a short video but it was inspired by your comment. The setup I have there basically is Joby gorillapod with a head from Sirui 3T-35K mini tripod. They are both arca-swiss plate compatible so it works! fast! Hope that helps!
So, the Arca-something from the Webill can be used on Arca compatible items but not Arca compatible items can't be used on the Weebill? Did I get it right? Also, do you think the Weebill is as good as your previous Crane v.2 in stability and smoothness? Thank you for your review!
Hi Matteo. You got that arca thing right. Compared to Crane v2, it definitely felt more powerful. Finesse and smoothness was about the same with a lighter setup. The v2 can't handle the heavier lens so that was the big difference. I think Weebill is getting some bad rep because somehow the marketing people were able to put 6.6 lbs of max load on paper. There is no way this thing holds 6.6 lbs. People are putting way heavier lens thinking it's going to hold up really well. I think the acceptable levels is around 3 lbs, which is step up from Crane v2 where anything heavier than 2 lbs was not really acceptable. I have couple of shoots coming up and going to do a followup video. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Oh wow! Thanks Ale!! Yeh... I want to like this gimbal 100% too even during the shoot. Shot a wedding last night and it jerked couple of times. It likes to remind me that there is a cost to small form factor convenience. I'm finding that the gimbal jerks the most when you tilt and pan at the same time. I'm learning to avoid those moves. :)
Thanks Andrew! Glad you asked that. I am hoping to get a hold of 16-35 mm for my next Weebill video. You may have seen that you have to remove the eye-piece on the camera to make that fully work. I'm going to see if I can get some counter weight to balance it. We'll see !
I have the 16-35 gm and it has to be pushed so far back to balance, the eye piece hits the motor. I removed the eye piece and operated it with the 16-35 gm and the 35mm zeiss 1.4 and although it fit, it was not smooth panning. The gimbal really seemed to struggle and jerk. Also, it comes with a charger and cable, but no ac adapter to plug it in. I had to use my phone charger, which the manual specifically says not to do. I really wanted to like it for the size, but I'll be returning mine.
Great review thank you, I just bought this baby and had to buy the phone holder separate which cost me £49 then heard you say the wifi is crap so probably going to be a waste of money :( I will be using it with the Canon 80d and a 28mm f2.8 prime which combined weighs around 2.2lbs so it should handle it with ease. What is a bummer at present, I've tried everywhere to get the "quick setup kit" which will be more convenient than the phone holder but can I find one.... Of course I can't you have to buy the gimbal as a "Creative Package" at £799 ...... So, a little naughty there Zhiyun but I get it you have to whip our pants down wherever possible...... :((
Awesome review. This is probably one of the best videos that actually show real world footage and comments of the smoothness of the Weebill Lab. I’ve seen some other reviews and their videos footage were pretty shaky so I’m relieved this gimbal can produce smooth enough video. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. Btw what is the heaviest payload you have used on this that still produces smooth results? Also did u used heavy calibration setting for the combo with zeiss 35mm f1.4?
Hi Kim, the heaviest I tried is with the 35 mm F/1.4. The motor strength setting was at "low" so there is plenty of head room. I feel like lot of the demo videos, the operator is not using the gimbal right. Gimbal is supposed to smooth out the operator's movement. If the operator is not smooth to begin with, then it gets shaky even at the max motor strength. If you watch my recent wedding UA-cam video teaser, those were all shot with a weak Crane v2. If Crane v2 can do it, Weebill can do better in my opinion. I told Jimmy this, but I'll try to do a gimbal smoothness technique tutorial video sometime in the future. :)
It was explained in the reviews that the phone mount would not be included in the normal packaging. also the picture you showed, shows the mount as transparent which means it's not included.
Hi Patrick, this actually is kind of cool! If you go visit B&H right now, they changed the picture. If you look at the screenshot from my video at 3:10, it's a different picture. Maybe they saw my video! LOL just a wish. Thanks for the comment!
Will you keep it or go with the Moza Air 2 ;) I am keeping mine for now. It's gonna have an amazing resell value and i don't want to get heavier setups so i'll have to adjust.
Haha, Moza Air max capacity is 9.25 lbs.!!! In 5 years, manufacture will advertise that you can balance your car on these gimbals. 😂 I think Weebill is good for next couple of years since cameras aren't getting bigger.
Very good review. It's disappointing regarding the Arca Swiss plates. I use the same plates as you and was pleased to hear about the dual Manfrotto/Arca adapter. I don't quite see the point of including it if you can't use it with other Arca plates. They may as well have just included the Manfrotto.
I agree. It does sound nice on paper: Manfrotto and Arca Swiss dual plate. I can see how having more screws on the plate make this not so low profile, but I was glad to do this video and let people know. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
I am wondering I should buy it or not, cause I saw some video comments from youtube said it is the worst in terms of footage stability and its payload is not what ZHIYUN said actually. but also, there are some good words of it. Totally Confused.
Hi Andy, I understand your confusion. After using it every week for over 3 months now, I can tell you the size of this gimbal outweighs all the app issues. They fixed some of those issues with new firmware updates. If you have a mirror-less camera, it will support most lenses long as it fits physically inside the space given. If you use an adapter that makes your lens much longer, it may not fit. I would say stability goes down after about 3 lbs of load also. Within that weight, it's smooth. If you want to get a gimbal that can easily fit in a bookbag there is no better gimbal. Hope that helps!
do you think I should sell my V2 for a Weebill Lab then? the motor locks got me real good plus the size. I have an A6500 set with prime lenses 16 and 30. Can anybody offer me their insights?
Question! You mentioned getting a quick release for the tripod legs. I have the same gimbal and REALLY need whatever that is lol. It takes forever to switch
Hi Alex, it's not out yet unfortunately just like the follow focus module for this unit. 😂 I'm thinking of getting CAMVATE Handgrip from B&H meanwhile.
Did you ever find a solution for the arca swiss mount? I have lots os Peak design gear as well and I want to make sure it will all be compatible. Thanks
It’s one way compatible with general arca amounts. You can’t mount Peak Design’s plate on the Weebill directly and vice verse. You can mount Weebill’s arca plate on a standard arca fluid head or similar products. However you cannot mount other standard arca plate on the Weebill.
Is it buggy like the Crane 2 when it comes to phone operations? I really love the Zhiyun gimbals but their app is the worst... Also I saw some shaky footage from other reviewers and I hope it is because of the big zoom lenses they use with this gimbal. If it holds my A7rIII with 28 2.0 and 85 1.8 I will be happy with it. If it can hold my Mitakon 50 0.95 with follow focus... that will be great! It is kinda my top wish. The portability - it is a revolution, I really love it. I just hope that they will work on their app.
Hi Simeon, I just co-shot a wedding using the gimbal for 80% of the shots I got using Sony G Master 16-35 mm which is even heavier than the 35 mm F1.4 prime. It handled it fine. I have a theory on why we are seeing some shaky UA-cam footage for this gimbal. It's going to be on the next Weebill video I'm making right now... but I'll just tell you also. That axis lock is so new, people aren't use to it. I accidentally left my tilt axis locked and the gimbal doesn't freak out and lets you use it. After the shot, I wondered why it was shaky and found that "oops" I left the tilt axis locked. The other wedding videographer that night did the same thing by accident so I'm not alone. But yeh you're absolutely right about the app. It's cool to play with it but not robust enough for a paid run and gun job. BTW, like your lens collection!
Im having a problem with shaky footage, and none of the axis was locked. Using a6500 18-105 f4. After 40mm its already shaking. Im Not knew to gimbals, ive been operting the crane v2 for 3 years and never had this problem. Dont know why tho
I just picked up the weebill lab the other day. I’ve connected the zy play app, usb cable from the a7iii to the gimbal. But I’m having trouble panning left to right with the joystick. The joystick works looking up and down. Have you had any problems with that too?
Is it me but people fail to report the weight of the gimbal... it’s 4.7 lbs compared the the Ronin S 4.1 lbs... an issue when people say it’s a run and gun but really it’s heavy...
Hi Simon, that weight is the package weight. Ronin S is a solid metal gimbal. Many parts on Weebill is plastic and is much smaller. I held a Ronin S next to my Weebill, and it was a huge difference in weight.
You know I had no idea BestBuy even carried Zhiyun products, and what do you know, they do for the older models. Didn't see Weebill on their site yet. You're thinking you can return it more easily at BestBuy aren't you? I can tell you the Weebill retail packaging does have a protective tamper-proof tape so once you open it, you can't seal it back up the same way.
@@SePark thanks for the reply. I pulled the trigger on the crane 2. Found that the weebill doesn't come with the follow focus nor the smartphone holder so decided to go with the crane 2 which was on sale for under 600. Thanks for helping me decide! Also, subscribe to my channel!
I do social network promos and travel video, i have the crane 2 but the weebill seen more perfect for me. Should i change? How is stabilization? I have the sony a6500 and my biggest lens is the sony 18-105
If my math is correct, your heaviest lens setup weighs 753 grams with the camera. That should be a piece of cake with the Weebill. If Sony launches a7000 with the Z-battery you will still be fine. My thought is that Weebill's strength is its size with heavy load support. If you do a lot of travel with your gimbal, definitely consider changing. My smaller Crane v2 actually doesn't fold up well and takes more space in my camera bag compared to the Weebill. From feature and load capacity stand point, Weebill is not that much ahead that you will drop $600 for it since you have the Crane 2 (not Crane v2 right).
Se Park i was thinking selling my crane 2 to get the weebill but i was wondering if it worth. I do the ocational travel but mainly social network content for business. But the novelty of having something so compact and convenient make me think about it.
Just saw your video ... great work ... i want to buy the weebill lab to use ir in comb. With sony a7iii and 16-35 zeiss ... do u think it could handle the camera with the 24-105 g ?
Hi Iban, I just updated the firmware to the latest v 1.83 but that feature is still not available. That would be the only redeeming part about this app so hopefully they release that soon.
always love all of your tutorials, and reviews. Unfortunately my zhiyun crane v2 started on fire last week and it was perfectly balanced. Very scary, frightening and disappointing. Not to mention painful! Worked wonderfully up to that point. but that has me gun shy about Purchasing more zhiyun products. I wrote to them about what happened and not even a reply, Nada. Not very reassuring or responsible on their part. I have not heard of this happening to others but having it happen once is enough. I lived it as did asdic the frightened people on the dance floor. I only had it on for less than 10 minutes. As I said, it was perfectly balanced with a sony a6500 on it blue a light lens. I am a long time wedding videographer and the sony a7 line and the crane have been a huuuuge part of my shooting. I have a wedding coming up Dec 8th 2018, as a crane shooter, and I have got to find a good, compact, and powerful replacement. Manfrotto 501 plates on all my tripods and monopods. Has the weebal lived up to what has been printed about it in your eyes? Have you ever heard of the crane motor burning. Thanks so much for posting this. Great video. Any updates you may have would be so appreciated. I truly want to like Zhiyun again but having this happen once and no response makes me question their integrity
Wow Gigi, that's horrible. So sorry that happened. I have not heard of a gimbal motor catching on fire! One thing is to have that kind of equipment failure, but another to not get any response from the company. I understand why you would be hesitant to get another Zhiyun product. I think Weebill is great for its core functionality: small and powerful. I just co-shot a wedding with it, and it worked as it should even with the heavy Sony FE 16-35 mm. I'm currently making a second Weebill video regarding that. Problem with Weebill is that it got everyone's expectations way up high with everything they printed. The app is underdeveloped and not user friendly. I never used the app for my Crane v2, and I don't intent to for Weebill wedding shoots either. I got this gimbal because there are no other gimbals like this, and I think you may be looking at a similar situation. I can't recommend something without knowing everything about your setup, but I can say at least for me Weebill is working out well from my last 3 paid jobs. Hope that helps. Thanks for stopping by my video and for the comment!
I had my friend try the GH5 on my Weebill on one of my VLOGs, but it was a tight fit. His setup was GH5 with Sigma 17-50 mm F2.8 Canon EF Mount with the Metabones adapter. 2.6 lbs weight is fine, but the concern would be what other lenses can you fit it in the Weebill. Also 60mm is a hard focal length on a gimbal to make it very steady especially on a micro four thirds. Weebill is a better match for a shorter focal length. If putting a gimbal in a back pack is a must, it may be worth the investigation. Otherwise, I usually recommend Moza Air 2. Hope that helps!
What's this talk of a quick release tripod handle at 5:17? My searching on Amazon has not turned up anything. I just got one of these and would love to get something like that.
I don't think it's out yet. Just like the follow focus motor for this unit. LOL I have seen some pre-production models with this tripod so hopefully it's released in the US soon.
Hey there! Do you have a Sony camera? On the gimbal side, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. The camera USB setting also has to be setup correctly. If you have a Sony, I have these settings I can send you. Hope that helps.
Excellent review!! Got a preview of this at the BeAlpha event thanks to @momentumproductions and instantly had second thoughts about my Ronin S lol! Keep the videos comin!! 🔥🎥
@@SePark IT's TOTALLY worth it! I met a lot of youtube heroes and I was featured in the Alpha Universe video a few times lol!! So much fun. Should have a vlog from the event up soonish... haha
I am using sony a7III with the sony 24-105 lens. I realised u havent cleared up: Can you go underslung mode with this set up? Or is it too front heavy?
Hi Fauzan, I haven't tried it with 24-105 but since 35 mm Zeiss weighs 630 grams and Sony FE 24-105 weighs 663 grams, performance should be about the same. 35 mm felt fine when going in underslung mode. You probably won't be able to extend the lens out much, making it be stuck around 24-28 mm. In my experience, heavier the lens is, you have to spend a lot more time balancing it properly. I did film a concert with 24-105 with my older Crane v2 with lower weight limit with careful balancing and foot movement so I would say Weebill can handle 24-105 long as you move like a ninja.
Se Park thank you for the detailed info! Yeah reason being, i have zhiyun crane plus. Balancing with 24-105 on it, i hve to balance the gimbal while it extends half way (arnd 50mm) to allow it to balance properly even while i extend or retract the lens. But even so, it makes the camera to be way back and the eye cup touching motor of the gimbal. Was hoping this weebill could probably fix that issue.
Alright Ryan! Just for you! I'll hold up the two gimbals side by side on my next video, which I am filming this coming weekend (Hopefully, maybe, definitely!) 😃
Se Park I am debating getting this gimbal or the Crane 2 - again not seen much footage comparison.. Is this because the Crane 2 is in a different league?? Would be awesome if you have any feedback!
@@RuthHurst I feel like all the Zhiyun gimbals right now are in their own leagues. Crane 2 (not v2) is such a huge gimbal but would handle much heavier loads. I would take the less powered Weebill any day when I am traveling. For travelers, being able to just take out a gimbal and start filming within a minute could be the difference between getting more shots and not getting the shots. It may come down to the price too. Crane 2 is getting cheaper. For example in the US they are discounting $300 off the Crane 2 at B&H website right now. That's hard to beat. On my next video, I'm going to address why Weebill is so wobbly in lot of the UA-cam videos.
Se Park nice! Look forward to the more information on the Weebill. I am still using a crane 1. I use a small mirrorless so I have no need for a beefy gimbal which is why the Weebill has my attention since the Crane 1 doesn’t fit in my bag very well.
Hi Adrian, I calculated your setup to be 1351 grams so that will be fine. Not sure if the image transmission via the app will work well but it will handle that weight. My test setup was 1376 grams.
Not really. All the essential settings can be controlled from the gimbal which is easy since it has a OLED screen. The sensitivity and calibration settings are on the app, which I only had to use it once when I bought the gimbal.
I got it same kind of feeling when I received my Weebill Lab, excited and disappointed. do you have any tutorial on how to connect sony a7III to Weebill Lab + app. I have try but no sucess
Hi Fabiano, right out of the default settings, it didn't work for me until I change my A7 III camera settings. Under Setup (tool box) page 4, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi". If you already have that setting on your camera, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. Hope that helps.
Yeh that quick release plate isn't perfect. On the next Weebill video, I'll try to talk more about the plate. I know you may have figured it out by the time I make that video but if you think you can describe it in words, I'll try to help out.
Does wireless transmission work in Sony a6500? How did you connect the Weebill Lab to your phone and camera? I tried several ways but it does not give me the live feed. Are you getting also heating on the bsck motor? Mine is heating too much and just stop working, even if I balance the gimbal correctly.
Hi Robert, I haven't tried a6500 but you would think it has a pretty good chance since it works with Sony A7 III. I would start with seeing if the cable is working by seeing if the record button on the gimbal works with your camera recording capability. If that works, make sure both bluetooth and wifi is connected via the phone to your gimbal. Only having bluetooth does not transmit the image. For the overheating, my motor is not even warm when using about 20-30 minutes so there is something going on there.
@@everythingnice haha it's the benefit of being a small UA-cam channel, but man I'm finally barely keeping up with all the comments. LOL Assuming a6500 has a similar menu as A7 III, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi".
I’m not having any luck getting transmission to my phone from the weebill & my Sony camera. I’ve tried the provided cable and connected to both ports on the gimbal. Any other suggestions??
Hi, one of the comments that helped someone was: right out of the default settings, it didn't work for me until I change my Sony A7 III camera settings. Under Setup (tool box) page 4, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi". If you already have that setting on your camera, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. Hope that helps.
I have an A73 with a Zeiss Batis 18mm F2.8 and I can barely get it to balance ... and If I add a Rode VideoMic Pro Plus ontop also, forget it .. the payload is still way under but I can't get it right. any suggestions ?
Sup TEM! Sorry for the late response man. I'm used to getting like 8 comments per video. This is crazy! LOL I just shot a wedding with Sony G Master 16-35 mm on this Weebill no problem (it's twice the weight of 18 mm). Well I had to remove the eye cup but I think this should be able to handle Batis 18 mm without a sweat. Are you using a taller plate by any chance? Buddy of mine tried to use his own quick release plate, and this gimbal isn't very forgiving if you raise the plate height. The space we get to mount the camera is so small. Not sure if that was your issue, but I'm going to make a second Weebill UA-cam video shortly talking more about my experience.
Se Park lol all good brother ... I actually returned it today, I’m just gonna rock with my Ronin S. I tried to balance that setup for a while and it just wasn’t working out for me. Keep up the good work
@@TheEverythingMan yeh, ,,if you experienced Ronin-S I can see Weebill isn't as amazing as someone who is coming from Crane v2. BTW, love your channel and how you say it like it is to share your thoughts. Not many gear review channel like that. You go man!
Thanks Billy! It just happens that I just uploaded a new UA-cam video with that exact lens and what that experience was like. Really Right Stuff arca swiss plate won't work since the only Arca-Swiss plate this thing will hold is their own. There is a special teeth mechanism that locks it in and no one has that except Zhiyun.
@@paulchiu yes with one small modification. It's actually really usable. Check out the new video I just uploaded. You'll see the test footage there too. 😀
Yes, there are two calibration tools: one is 6 point calibration tool which was pain to do since you basically have to position your gimbal in 6 different ways (can't wait till I do a video on this lol) and the other method, which is so much easier, is the Motor Calibration. You just simply input how many degrees you want to correct. The second method worked for me.
@@sarahwagner2998 Hi Sarah, I used the Contact Us section on the very bottom of the B&H website. I selected Customer Service "other" category. I basically told them the picture on their website when I bought it did not have the phone mount grayed out. I'm guessing they can tell when you ordered it. If you ordered it prior to their website picture change, they probably send you one without much conversation since it is offered free now. Either way, definitely worth the try.
Thank you so much, Se! It's been a busy fall, but thankfully, all is well! Wishing you & your family a very Happy Holiday season coming up. Keep up the great videos. 👍🏾
I couldn't find it on Zhiyun's website. It's funny how they don't even have Weebill listed under the firmware download options. Have you tried disconnecting and connecting to the router and back to Weebill manually?
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Lots of good info here. I did find the music very loud and distracted me from what you were saying sometimes. I am like the weebill lab too so far and agree the phone holder should come with it!
Mr Bloom! Thank you! That's such a valuable feedback since I'm just getting started on UA-cam. It's the small things like the phone holder that makes a difference. 😂
@@SePark As of 11.15.18 B&H Actually still states that the "transmount phone holder" is included.
I definitely agree with both the fact that this was a good video and that the music was a bit tough at times... believe me I've been there too, my most popular video with almost 200k views now had the same issue 🤷♂️I should be getting my weebill next week. I'm excited to try it out!
@@dunnadidit thanks for the feedback and letting me know about your experience. I'm really excited about picking my next UA-cam video soundtrack and leveling that volume. Hope you like your new gimbal next week!
Se Park - My pleasure man! Figured it might feel nice to let you know that you’re not alone! Thanks again for a great video.
Dude I love your energy man, Good video
James!! I watch a lot of your videos so maybe you had some influence here. Thanks for stopping by!
Just as an FYI, B&H only sells ONE version of the Weebil, the base kit that only includes the gimbal alone. The 'creator kit' version has the phone mount included but you won't be seeing it on B&H specifically.
I am a Weeble owner. I've had challenges with occasional jitters which has been frustrating. You think you have a perfect shot, only to find out later there has been a sudden motor movement. I have spent a lot of time working with settings, but I think it's the nature of the gimbal. Also, it's important to point out some quality concerns. Straight out of the box I had a problem with the plate tightening screws. Zhyun was kind enough to send a replacement part from China. Also, it would no longer start up after about 4 weeks of use and needed to be sent in for repair. The insured shipping (at my cost) is expensive. If I had to do it over I would definitely buy something more rugged and time tested. I would only recommend to someone who absolutely needs the small size and has some money to burn for eventual repairs.
I'm going to be one of those annoying people who comments "I was here at under 400 subs!" in a few months when you blow up 📷😆 I love my weebill lab, but your comments are very true. Im also assuming the live view won't work on android because I can't get it to work at all yet!
Wow! Thank you Emily! I'm sure someone said the same thing about you when you were at under 400 subs! :) I should have clarified that I have only tried this on an iPhone. I hear lot of people are having issues with the app so I hope Zhiyun will update their apps and their update to make sure it's solid soon!
Dude "I've got 99 problems but the gimbal ain't 1" ==> The reason why I subscribed 🙌
Haha, that's awesome. I was hoping some people got my reference! Welcome to the community!
The background music is very good and glad to hear that you like it :)
Love it! Thanks for the comment and some awesome innovation!
@@SePark Looking forward to your next videos! Cheers!
Hey i am a little worried about the wobble i’ve seen in other vids will an a7iii kit lens and rode videomicpro plus work well on this?
hi @@jimmyhidalgo2680 , Sony FE 28-70 mm kit lens is only 295 grams. Rode mic will make it more top heavy but that kind of light setup should be no problem with this gimbal. I have seen some wobbly sample footage, and I think it really depends on the operator. I walk like a ninja and keep the gimbal close to my body as much as possible. That setup should not be a problem. It also helps a little if you tilt the gimbal towards your body while walking. Complete 90 degree angle transfers your feet contacting the ground. I'll try to do a tutorial on this in the near future on my channel. Thanks for asking!
@zhiyun-tech: I own the Weebill and have big issue to operate it in follow mode. When I holding the Weebill I always accidentally activate the Joystick. It drive me nuts! Is there a chance to deactivate the joystick?
how you don't have more subscribers, your video was really good, clean really helpful, keep up the good work man
Haha, channels growing thanks to people like you. Thanks for that comment! Appreciate it! 😃
great video man. his was one of the best reviews ive seen on this gimbal. honest, balanced. good shit.
Haha, wow, thanks Spreken! I'll try to keep making these kind of videos!
Bro!!! Amazing editing and cut edits!! Subbed!
Love ur video man, simplicity is good . I really hope I can see ur other footage from this weebill 👍🏼
And yeah agreed that the phone holder should come with it..
Thank you Mr Kerupuk! I had couple paid shoots with this already and I will be filming more this coming weekend. I'll upload some non-slow mo footage with the custom settings I made. B&H is now offering free phone holder when you purchase a Weebill. Haha, they caught on LOL.
Just ordered this and was real worried about the 35 1.4 not holding well since it makes it front heavy...glad I ran into this vid! In the end i just need a stabilizer that's compact and does what it's intended to do...stabilize image. All those other features are just gimmicks. At this price point, I'll take it for what it is.
Exactly Krisco! Thanks for the comment!
great review man!
please keep up to the arca swiss problem and let us know if there is a solution. I have seen lots of comments about this. especially when it comes to peak design plates. thanks
Good job dude. refreshing to see a smiling youtuber!
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I know this video is a year old but have to say you gave a lot of good information , like you mentioned the weight of your setup 3 lbs and mind is under 2 lbs . I’m just using the Weebel lab for vacations and videos of the grandkids I know have to be careful with a small gimbal. Thanks you enjoy watching your channel.
Hi Johnny! Thanks for watching even if the video was 1 year old. Kinda reminded me where it all begin. :)
Se Park's "Real World Test" = 7 minutes of talking and 8 seconds of Slo Mo (Sigh) gimbal footage. So for all the mathematicians out there who wondered how much actual real world test's we see in this video I am here to tell you that the answer is: ZERO
You're right. There is heavy truth in that statement. I'll change the title. Thanks for confirming my subconscious thought on that.
@@SePark Haha, to be fair you've made an excellent video about the quick release and several features. Also touched on how cumbersome it was to upgrade the firmware as well as certain aspects of the motors which is good!! I think what a lot of people want to know is if the Weebill is actually stable with a setup close to the rated 6lb's (3KG) No other reviewer has mentioned the motor setting e.g high, medium or low when doing these tests. With my Crane 2 I thought I needed my motors set to high when using my A7III + Zeiss 35 1.4 combo but it jittered a lot. I set it to medium and funnily enough it performed much better. Perhaps your next video can include other tips like this to say which motor setting works best. Also another thing is that with the Crane 2 Zhiyun didn't officially say that you can control the ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed on Sony Cameras using the gimbal controls however there was an easy trick that made it work (Using a Canon cable and changing a few settings on the A7III) If you can try this trick to see if it works with the Weebill or not then I think you will be one of the first to tell us and I'm sure a lot of Sony users will want to know :) Keep up the videos though. Great editing and information
@@christianlionel1988 Haha, that's an awesome information. I was thinking of topics to cover on my second Weebill Lab video, and I think you just hit the nail on the head. Appreciate you taking your time to comment. Looking forward to making that second video!
@@SePark Definitely :) I do apologise for my first comment though I was really joking more than anything =P Seriously though I'm impressed with the quality of your video and I think you'll have a good following reaching ten's of thousands of subs soon :) As this gimbal is new definitely keep churning out more videos on the Weebill. You can do battery life tests, talk about the Go/Sport Mode which is another thing that no one has touched on much yet. How it compares to say a Ronin S in sport mode (if you know anyone who has a Ronin S borrow it for a day to test ;)
@@christianlionel1988 no worries! I enjoyed your first comment. I thought it was truthful and funny, which is kinda the theme I am going for. Thanks for the encouragement. You come up with some good video topics. If I reach a thousand sub, you definitely played a part in it!
This video was great. Well done with sharing the ups and the downs of the gimbal. GAS is real but the munnies I got is not haha
thanks for pointing out the arca swiss stuff. i'll keep my v2 crane with a small hd focus rig for now. I wish they would just partner with peak design to make those plates compatible with a quick release system.
Thanks Priscilla. Now that's an idea. Next gimbal company to partner with Peak Design wins!
Just got the Weebill yesterday and I'm disappointed with the Arca Swiss setup too. Nice review!
I feel ya Kenneth! That's why I had to mention that on my video. It's little nitpicking, but I try to talk about what most UA-cam videos don't talk about on their reviews. It's hard to tell how that plate works just looking at the product photos. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
man your review is awesome dude keep it going you will make it man
Thanks man! Really appreciate that comment!
Keep it! I just bought one, still waiting to be shipped though. The setup I am going to use weights the same as the one you had it. I am happy it worked well. Thanks mate
Yeh I threw away the receipt already! JK... (it's digital). I have to make a second video on Weebill so definitely keep it! 😂
New sub!! 🔥🔥 thanks bro this was what i was looking for i was a little confused to get it of not.
Thank you for the great review!! How did you get the wireless transmission to connect with the camera?
Please do the additional video that you talked about where you go over the settings. I have bought the gimbal, and also find the app a bit confusing with the phone mode, and the phone controller mode. I want to make the panning slower, and the dead zone larger to avoid those sudden pan moves that happen with older gimbals. I'm interested in seeing what you think works best.
Totally agree that it is crazy that you have to exit the Phone Control mode to get to the Phone View mode to change those settings.
Good review. Nice and fast paced. Well done and thanks!
Hi David, I am filming that video tomorrow. Hope to upload to UA-cam in few days. I found a better way to get to that almost "hidden" setting.
@@SePark Great. Looking forward to it!
Great review. Lots of good energy and excellent B roll. Your daughter is adorable. Good info with very helpful tips. Great work. 👍🏾 Phelix
Thanks Phelix! Appreciate that!
Have you noticed that when the camera is connected to the gimbal by usb you can’t access playback? So you have to unplug the cable every time you want to check the shot! I’ve got it setup as PC Remote for the A7III.
The company made it very clear the bundle options they had...
I notice the footage you showed was in slow mo. That will totally help with the "smooth butter" but do you have any footage in real time? Great Video. Thanks for making it.
Hi Andy, yes I should upload some non-slo mo clips too. I'm sure some people will use this in real time FPS. Almost all of my gimbal applications are in slo-mo so I didn't think of that. My next gimbal video will cover real time FPS and how to get smoother gimbal movements. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Hey park - a quick question- Can i use Mark III on Zhiyun Weebill Lab ?
Awesome review! I have exactly the same problem except my Zhiyun Crane v2 just died right before a gig started (handheld it is then). Damn thing is out of stock in UK though!
Thanks James! I always wondered what I would do if my gimbal died right before a gig.... I have a Glidecam collecting dust but I'm sure so is my skill using it. LOL
Everyone needs at least 3 gimbals just in case ;)
Hey, great review. Did you end up getting the quick-release tripod handle? If so, can you comment on it? Good? Bad? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I ended up getting a lighter 1/4 in mount handle from Amazon. It's called CAMVATE Handle. My thought behind it was I would never stand up the Weebill from the upper side and the handle is light enough that I don't mind just having it mounted the whole time. Currently making another Weebill video so I'll show what this looks like on a video. Whatever handle you get, if you have big hands, there is a chance your hand won't fit between it.
@@SePark thanks for the reply, man. If you could include that in your next video it would be greatly appreciated! Keep up the great work.
Great review man!
Thanks buddy!
Great review! I like your humor (whaaaa?) 😜
I have the A7s mk1 w 28.2 lens and was wondering if you can plug in a cable to the camera and adjust focus manually with the wheel on the gimbal? I can’t afford the A7mk3 yet with that amazing autofocus. Peace!
Hi Jon. I wished that nice metallic focus dial did just that, but with the current app you cannot to my knowledge. I looked through the app up and down looking to see what else it could do. How cool would it be if you customize that focus dial to what you want it to be, like tilt control. Then I'll be really saying "whaaaa?" Thanks for that comment.
great review mate really made and you covered everything
Thanks Andrew! Really appreciate that comment! 😃
That was quick, thanks for the review!
Thanks for the comment! Still need to cover more about this gimbal when using it long term so another video coming up in the future!
@@SePark looking forward to it man! Subbed!
Hey man great vid, i just got the weebill and can’t seem to get smooth shots (unlike with my ronin s) even with a light lens setup (a7iii+50mm1.8). The “Six-side Calibration” asks you to position your gimbal + camera in some very awkward positions, any thoughts on that? I’v been using gimbals since the 1st ronin so i know how to balance meticulously so what could i be doing wrong...
Thanks man! That six side calibration is a joke. I tried it, and it took me 10 minutes trying to do yoga with the gimbal. I just uploaded a new UA-cam video on this topic, but you are brave for using a 50 mm on a gimbal. Best lens for this gimbal in my experience so far is F2 Sony 28 mm prime lens.
Se Park Lol yes brave but also necessary as we do a lot of events and a lot of time we need the range to capture people’s expressions without getting too intrusive. Also the 28mm and the 50mm Sony primes weight almost exactly the same which makes them a great pair for run and gun as you can switch between the 2 without the need to rebalance the gimbal. Anyways Brandon Li made a test with a 50mm on, and it does look rather shaky so we might trade the Weebill in for the Crane 3 as soon as it gets on sale here. Thank you for the reply btw. Keep up the awesome vids.
Daddy VS Domi should I get the weebill?
loved the video man, i just ordered my new weebill lab from amazon
i have a question though
have you had any problems with the gimbal since you bought it? ive heard some people complaining about the gimbal glitchin after 3 weeks
i would really apreciate an answer bro
😎
Hey Andrez, I put my Weebill Lab through some torture. Used it on almost every client video shoots since it came out. Still going strong without any issues other than the app. I heard some people having issues but then again, I heard some people having issues with Ronin SC too. To avoid burning the motor, don't turn on the gimbal without a camera on. You probably knew that but something that happens often. Congrats on your new gear. Hope you make some dope videos!! Thanks for your support bro!!
Se Park thanks for the response man, and yes, i have heard that people complain about the app but i was really more concerned about the gimbal
Anyways, thanks for the help and keep up the good work 👌🏽🎥
For the quick release problem - have you tried it with the peak design pro plate? It has adapters you screw on each side to make it wider so it is compatible with manfrotto rc2 systems. I'm hoping this makes it wide enough to work with the weebill plate.
Let me know if that works but just by looking at the picture, I can't say it will. I should clarify that the Weebill's Manfrotto plate is the 500 series and not RC2.
Nice video but man that background music is distracting. It’s not in the background, dial it way back and maybe try putting a eq on the track and remove the frequencies wheee your voice sits. Just an idea. Cool video nonetheless
Hi Nick ,you noticed too? I know right?! Bad mistake on my part. Thanks for that feedback. You know I'm going to pay extra attention to my music track level and selection next time... :)
Se Park all good man, I enjoyed your video all the same. I’m a professional musician so it’s the first thing I notice. Cheers
This is an awesome review!
Hey Se, great content! I recently got into vlogging (which doesn't necessarily require a gimbal), but I thought maybe it'd look decent with a nice prime lens. Problem is, I don't like the idea of switching back and froth between the gimbal and the gorillapod.
Would you mind making a video, showing how to setup the release plates, and also to list what accessories you'd need to make this work?
Hey Ben! That's awesome you're getting into vlogging. I just made a quick Instagram story for you (@se_what_park). I know it's a short video but it was inspired by your comment. The setup I have there basically is Joby gorillapod with a head from Sirui 3T-35K mini tripod. They are both arca-swiss plate compatible so it works! fast! Hope that helps!
My weebill will deliver by tomorrow ! So excited
Super excited for you Shaochin! Enjoy your new toy tomorrow! Let me know what you think!
Excellent review! Footage looks great!
Thank you so much! Much appreciate it!
So, the Arca-something from the Webill can be used on Arca compatible items but not Arca compatible items can't be used on the Weebill? Did I get it right? Also, do you think the Weebill is as good as your previous Crane v.2 in stability and smoothness? Thank you for your review!
Hi Matteo. You got that arca thing right. Compared to Crane v2, it definitely felt more powerful. Finesse and smoothness was about the same with a lighter setup. The v2 can't handle the heavier lens so that was the big difference. I think Weebill is getting some bad rep because somehow the marketing people were able to put 6.6 lbs of max load on paper. There is no way this thing holds 6.6 lbs. People are putting way heavier lens thinking it's going to hold up really well. I think the acceptable levels is around 3 lbs, which is step up from Crane v2 where anything heavier than 2 lbs was not really acceptable. I have couple of shoots coming up and going to do a followup video. Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Man, I really want to like this gimbal, but I didn't see any videos so far with buttery smooth footage. But I liked you channel though! Kind regards.
Oh wow! Thanks Ale!! Yeh... I want to like this gimbal 100% too even during the shoot. Shot a wedding last night and it jerked couple of times. It likes to remind me that there is a cost to small form factor convenience. I'm finding that the gimbal jerks the most when you tilt and pan at the same time. I'm learning to avoid those moves. :)
Great review! Do you have any idea how well this handles the 16-35gm?
Thanks Andrew! Glad you asked that. I am hoping to get a hold of 16-35 mm for my next Weebill video. You may have seen that you have to remove the eye-piece on the camera to make that fully work. I'm going to see if I can get some counter weight to balance it. We'll see !
I have the 16-35 gm and it has to be pushed so far back to balance, the eye piece hits the motor. I removed the eye piece and operated it with the 16-35 gm and the 35mm zeiss 1.4 and although it fit, it was not smooth panning. The gimbal really seemed to struggle and jerk. Also, it comes with a charger and cable, but no ac adapter to plug it in. I had to use my phone charger, which the manual specifically says not to do. I really wanted to like it for the size, but I'll be returning mine.
I just got mine today and am returning it tomorrow. I have the weebill/Wobble 3 and it has no bluetooth and you have to menu dive....
Great review thank you, I just bought this baby and had to buy the phone holder separate which cost me £49 then heard you say the wifi is crap so probably going to be a waste of money :( I will be using it with the Canon 80d and a 28mm f2.8 prime which combined weighs around 2.2lbs so it should handle it with ease. What is a bummer at present, I've tried everywhere to get the "quick setup kit" which will be more convenient than the phone holder but can I find one.... Of course I can't you have to buy the gimbal as a "Creative Package" at £799 ...... So, a little naughty there Zhiyun but I get it you have to whip our pants down wherever possible...... :((
Awesome review. This is probably one of the best videos that actually show real world footage and comments of the smoothness of the Weebill Lab. I’ve seen some other reviews and their videos footage were pretty shaky so I’m relieved this gimbal can produce smooth enough video. Can’t wait for mine to arrive. Btw what is the heaviest payload you have used on this that still produces smooth results? Also did u used heavy calibration setting for the combo with zeiss 35mm f1.4?
Kim Wong yea im a little worried about the wobble in other vids hopefully an a7iii with 28-70 will work
Hi Kim, the heaviest I tried is with the 35 mm F/1.4. The motor strength setting was at "low" so there is plenty of head room. I feel like lot of the demo videos, the operator is not using the gimbal right. Gimbal is supposed to smooth out the operator's movement. If the operator is not smooth to begin with, then it gets shaky even at the max motor strength. If you watch my recent wedding UA-cam video teaser, those were all shot with a weak Crane v2. If Crane v2 can do it, Weebill can do better in my opinion. I told Jimmy this, but I'll try to do a gimbal smoothness technique tutorial video sometime in the future. :)
Se Park A gimbal operator tutorial vid would be fantastic! Look forward to it.
It was explained in the reviews that the phone mount would not be included in the normal packaging. also the picture you showed, shows the mount as transparent which means it's not included.
Hi Patrick, this actually is kind of cool! If you go visit B&H right now, they changed the picture. If you look at the screenshot from my video at 3:10, it's a different picture. Maybe they saw my video! LOL just a wish. Thanks for the comment!
@@SePark np. Great video by the way.
Awesome vid and channel! I feel the music was too loud when you were talking. Otherwise I love your content
Thanks so much. Haha yes that video will always live as the video that the music was too loud. Learned since then! :)
Would love to get an
arca swiss solution for the Weebill. So tired to put an extra mount on top. Thanks for pushing this topic
Zhiyun made an Arca-Chinese.... not Arca-Swiss. If they sell a separate Arca-Chinese plate, I may just buy one more and try to work with it. 😃
Will you keep it or go with the Moza Air 2 ;) I am keeping mine for now. It's gonna have an amazing resell value and i don't want to get heavier setups so i'll have to adjust.
Haha, Moza Air max capacity is 9.25 lbs.!!! In 5 years, manufacture will advertise that you can balance your car on these gimbals. 😂 I think Weebill is good for next couple of years since cameras aren't getting bigger.
Very good review. It's disappointing regarding the Arca Swiss plates. I use the same plates as you and was pleased to hear about the dual Manfrotto/Arca adapter. I don't quite see the point of including it if you can't use it with other Arca plates. They may as well have just included the Manfrotto.
This probably explains it. ua-cam.com/video/IUmmcXembcw/v-deo.html
I agree. It does sound nice on paper: Manfrotto and Arca Swiss dual plate. I can see how having more screws on the plate make this not so low profile, but I was glad to do this video and let people know. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
@@slideslipping so there are Arca-Swiss, Arca-American, and Arca-Chinese.... LOL Thanks for sharing!
I am wondering I should buy it or not, cause I saw some video comments from youtube said it is the worst in terms of footage stability and its payload is not what ZHIYUN said actually. but also, there are some good words of it. Totally Confused.
Hi Andy, I understand your confusion. After using it every week for over 3 months now, I can tell you the size of this gimbal outweighs all the app issues. They fixed some of those issues with new firmware updates. If you have a mirror-less camera, it will support most lenses long as it fits physically inside the space given. If you use an adapter that makes your lens much longer, it may not fit. I would say stability goes down after about 3 lbs of load also. Within that weight, it's smooth. If you want to get a gimbal that can easily fit in a bookbag there is no better gimbal. Hope that helps!
do you think I should sell my V2 for a Weebill Lab then? the motor locks got me real good plus the size. I have an A6500 set with prime lenses 16 and 30. Can anybody offer me their insights?
Question!
You mentioned getting a quick release for the tripod legs. I have the same gimbal and REALLY need whatever that is lol. It takes forever to switch
Hi Alex, it's not out yet unfortunately just like the follow focus module for this unit. 😂 I'm thinking of getting CAMVATE Handgrip from B&H meanwhile.
Did you ever find a solution for the arca swiss mount? I have lots os Peak design gear as well and I want to make sure it will all be compatible. Thanks
It’s one way compatible with general arca amounts. You can’t mount Peak Design’s plate on the Weebill directly and vice verse. You can mount Weebill’s arca plate on a standard arca fluid head or similar products. However you cannot mount other standard arca plate on the Weebill.
Se Park Thanks. That’s great to know.
Is it buggy like the Crane 2 when it comes to phone operations? I really love the Zhiyun gimbals but their app is the worst... Also I saw some shaky footage from other reviewers and I hope it is because of the big zoom lenses they use with this gimbal. If it holds my A7rIII with 28 2.0 and 85 1.8 I will be happy with it. If it can hold my Mitakon 50 0.95 with follow focus... that will be great! It is kinda my top wish. The portability - it is a revolution, I really love it. I just hope that they will work on their app.
Hi Simeon, I just co-shot a wedding using the gimbal for 80% of the shots I got using Sony G Master 16-35 mm which is even heavier than the 35 mm F1.4 prime. It handled it fine. I have a theory on why we are seeing some shaky UA-cam footage for this gimbal. It's going to be on the next Weebill video I'm making right now... but I'll just tell you also. That axis lock is so new, people aren't use to it. I accidentally left my tilt axis locked and the gimbal doesn't freak out and lets you use it. After the shot, I wondered why it was shaky and found that "oops" I left the tilt axis locked. The other wedding videographer that night did the same thing by accident so I'm not alone. But yeh you're absolutely right about the app. It's cool to play with it but not robust enough for a paid run and gun job. BTW, like your lens collection!
Im having a problem with shaky footage, and none of the axis was locked. Using a6500 18-105 f4. After 40mm its already shaking. Im
Not knew to gimbals, ive been operting the crane v2 for 3 years and never had this problem. Dont know why tho
I just picked up the weebill lab the other day. I’ve connected the zy play app, usb cable from the a7iii to the gimbal. But I’m having trouble panning left to right with the joystick. The joystick works looking up and down. Have you had any problems with that too?
Is it me but people fail to report the weight of the gimbal... it’s 4.7 lbs compared the the Ronin S 4.1 lbs... an issue when people say it’s a run and gun but really it’s heavy...
Hi Simon, that weight is the package weight. Ronin S is a solid metal gimbal. Many parts on Weebill is plastic and is much smaller. I held a Ronin S next to my Weebill, and it was a huge difference in weight.
Man Great video! You keep doing this and your channel will grow quickly....You just got another sub from me. Look forward to more.
Hi Paul! Welcome to the channel! Thanks so much! I'm so pumped to make more videos! Let's go! ( Next video will be around Thanksgiving Weekend.)
Great video SE!
Haha, thanks Vu! You too buddy!
@@SePark figured commenting will help the UA-cam algorithm
@@nVuFilms UA-cam algorithm is a mystery to me like how 6 lbs of apples could possible go on top of this gimbal.
Thanks - great job - really helpful and and en easy/enjoyable watch :)
Thanks so much Dasha! Really appreciate your comment!
Do you know if best buy will be getting it anytime soon? Also, the weebill lab or the crane 2?
You know I had no idea BestBuy even carried Zhiyun products, and what do you know, they do for the older models. Didn't see Weebill on their site yet. You're thinking you can return it more easily at BestBuy aren't you? I can tell you the Weebill retail packaging does have a protective tamper-proof tape so once you open it, you can't seal it back up the same way.
@@SePark thanks for the reply. I pulled the trigger on the crane 2. Found that the weebill doesn't come with the follow focus nor the smartphone holder so decided to go with the crane 2 which was on sale for under 600. Thanks for helping me decide! Also, subscribe to my channel!
You don't have to keep smiling.
I can't Mark!! 😃
Yeah, that’s really disturbing 😂
its nice, no problem to me
I do social network promos and travel video, i have the crane 2 but the weebill seen more perfect for me. Should i change? How is stabilization? I have the sony a6500 and my biggest lens is the sony 18-105
If my math is correct, your heaviest lens setup weighs 753 grams with the camera. That should be a piece of cake with the Weebill. If Sony launches a7000 with the Z-battery you will still be fine. My thought is that Weebill's strength is its size with heavy load support. If you do a lot of travel with your gimbal, definitely consider changing. My smaller Crane v2 actually doesn't fold up well and takes more space in my camera bag compared to the Weebill. From feature and load capacity stand point, Weebill is not that much ahead that you will drop $600 for it since you have the Crane 2 (not Crane v2 right).
Se Park i was thinking selling my crane 2 to get the weebill but i was wondering if it worth. I do the ocational travel but mainly social network content for business. But the novelty of having something so compact and convenient make me think about it.
Help, my Weebill shooting the video really shaking, I had balanced the gimbal perfectly.
Just saw your video ... great work ... i want to buy the weebill lab to use ir in comb. With sony a7iii and 16-35 zeiss ... do u think it could handle the camera with the 24-105 g ?
I have this gimbal and the 24-105g does NOT work with the weebill lab. It's too long and front heavy.
HAve you tried the object tracking feature in the app? I wonder if it works decently for closeup orbit around objects
Hi Iban, I just updated the firmware to the latest v 1.83 but that feature is still not available. That would be the only redeeming part about this app so hopefully they release that soon.
always love all of your tutorials, and reviews. Unfortunately my zhiyun crane v2 started on fire last week and it was perfectly balanced. Very scary, frightening and disappointing. Not to mention painful! Worked wonderfully up to that point. but that has me gun shy about Purchasing more zhiyun products. I wrote to them about what happened and not even a reply, Nada. Not very reassuring or responsible on their part. I have not heard of this happening to others but having it happen once is enough. I lived it as did asdic the frightened people on the dance floor. I only had it on for less than 10 minutes. As I said, it was perfectly balanced with a sony a6500 on it blue a light lens. I am a long time wedding videographer and the sony a7 line and the crane have been a huuuuge part of my shooting. I have a wedding coming up Dec 8th 2018, as a crane shooter, and I have got to find a good, compact, and powerful replacement. Manfrotto 501 plates on all my tripods and monopods. Has the weebal lived up to what has been printed about it in your eyes? Have you ever heard of the crane motor burning. Thanks so much for posting this. Great video. Any updates you may have would be so appreciated. I truly want to like Zhiyun again but having this happen once and no response makes me question their integrity
Wow Gigi, that's horrible. So sorry that happened. I have not heard of a gimbal motor catching on fire! One thing is to have that kind of equipment failure, but another to not get any response from the company. I understand why you would be hesitant to get another Zhiyun product. I think Weebill is great for its core functionality: small and powerful. I just co-shot a wedding with it, and it worked as it should even with the heavy Sony FE 16-35 mm. I'm currently making a second Weebill video regarding that. Problem with Weebill is that it got everyone's expectations way up high with everything they printed. The app is underdeveloped and not user friendly. I never used the app for my Crane v2, and I don't intent to for Weebill wedding shoots either. I got this gimbal because there are no other gimbals like this, and I think you may be looking at a similar situation. I can't recommend something without knowing everything about your setup, but I can say at least for me Weebill is working out well from my last 3 paid jobs. Hope that helps. Thanks for stopping by my video and for the comment!
can i use canon mark 4 with 24-105 lence in Weebill LAB ?
awesome video! this video helps me a lot.
So glad to hear! Much appreciate your comment!
Hhahah " I got 99 problems but gimbal ain't one" 😂 Great content Se!
Haha! Thanks Dana!
Hi by anychance do you think it would hold up good with my gh5/ and my 60mm lense? Total weight is about 2.6lbs
I had my friend try the GH5 on my Weebill on one of my VLOGs, but it was a tight fit. His setup was GH5 with Sigma 17-50 mm F2.8 Canon EF Mount with the Metabones adapter. 2.6 lbs weight is fine, but the concern would be what other lenses can you fit it in the Weebill. Also 60mm is a hard focal length on a gimbal to make it very steady especially on a micro four thirds. Weebill is a better match for a shorter focal length. If putting a gimbal in a back pack is a must, it may be worth the investigation. Otherwise, I usually recommend Moza Air 2. Hope that helps!
What's this talk of a quick release tripod handle at 5:17? My searching on Amazon has not turned up anything. I just got one of these and would love to get something like that.
I don't think it's out yet. Just like the follow focus motor for this unit. LOL I have seen some pre-production models with this tripod so hopefully it's released in the US soon.
Ok, thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out for it.
Hey Se, can you share how to setup the wireless imaging? I’m having issues getting the video transmitted. Thanks!
Hey there! Do you have a Sony camera? On the gimbal side, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. The camera USB setting also has to be setup correctly. If you have a Sony, I have these settings I can send you. Hope that helps.
Excellent review!! Got a preview of this at the BeAlpha event thanks to @momentumproductions and instantly had second thoughts about my Ronin S lol! Keep the videos comin!! 🔥🎥
Haha, that is super cool! My 2019 goal is to attend at least one BeAlpha event. Thanks for the comment!
@@SePark IT's TOTALLY worth it! I met a lot of youtube heroes and I was featured in the Alpha Universe video a few times lol!! So much fun. Should have a vlog from the event up soonish... haha
@@theFATEfactory alright! I'm definitely going! haha. Looking forward to your Vlog too! (hope you get to make that video!)
Se Park Yes!! See you at the next one lol!! And... SF Sony Event video will be first then LA for sure next 😅 Cheers
I am using sony a7III with the sony 24-105 lens. I realised u havent cleared up: Can you go underslung mode with this set up? Or is it too front heavy?
Hi Fauzan, I haven't tried it with 24-105 but since 35 mm Zeiss weighs 630 grams and Sony FE 24-105 weighs 663 grams, performance should be about the same. 35 mm felt fine when going in underslung mode. You probably won't be able to extend the lens out much, making it be stuck around 24-28 mm. In my experience, heavier the lens is, you have to spend a lot more time balancing it properly. I did film a concert with 24-105 with my older Crane v2 with lower weight limit with careful balancing and foot movement so I would say Weebill can handle 24-105 long as you move like a ninja.
Se Park thank you for the detailed info! Yeah reason being, i have zhiyun crane plus. Balancing with 24-105 on it, i hve to balance the gimbal while it extends half way (arnd 50mm) to allow it to balance properly even while i extend or retract the lens. But even so, it makes the camera to be way back and the eye cup touching motor of the gimbal. Was hoping this weebill could probably fix that issue.
Any way you can hold it up next to crane 2. Seems like no one is doing this. Just want to see a size comparison.
Alright Ryan! Just for you! I'll hold up the two gimbals side by side on my next video, which I am filming this coming weekend (Hopefully, maybe, definitely!) 😃
Se Park thank you!! Subscribed.
Se Park I am debating getting this gimbal or the Crane 2 - again not seen much footage comparison.. Is this because the Crane 2 is in a different league?? Would be awesome if you have any feedback!
@@RuthHurst I feel like all the Zhiyun gimbals right now are in their own leagues. Crane 2 (not v2) is such a huge gimbal but would handle much heavier loads. I would take the less powered Weebill any day when I am traveling. For travelers, being able to just take out a gimbal and start filming within a minute could be the difference between getting more shots and not getting the shots. It may come down to the price too. Crane 2 is getting cheaper. For example in the US they are discounting $300 off the Crane 2 at B&H website right now. That's hard to beat. On my next video, I'm going to address why Weebill is so wobbly in lot of the UA-cam videos.
Se Park nice! Look forward to the more information on the Weebill. I am still using a crane 1. I use a small mirrorless so I have no need for a beefy gimbal which is why the Weebill has my attention since the Crane 1 doesn’t fit in my bag very well.
How do you think this will hold up with a DSLR setup? Will a canon 77d with a sigma 18-35mm be too heavy?
Hi Adrian, I calculated your setup to be 1351 grams so that will be fine. Not sure if the image transmission via the app will work well but it will handle that weight. My test setup was 1376 grams.
@@SePark wow thanks so much, new subscriber!
Is it essential that I'd have to use the App to adjust the settings on the Weebill.
Not really. All the essential settings can be controlled from the gimbal which is easy since it has a OLED screen. The sensitivity and calibration settings are on the app, which I only had to use it once when I bought the gimbal.
they use sony camera as sample on quick guide book.. but still, need to remove eye cup
I got it same kind of feeling when I received my Weebill Lab, excited and disappointed.
do you have any tutorial on how to connect sony a7III to Weebill Lab + app. I have try but no sucess
Hi Fabiano, right out of the default settings, it didn't work for me until I change my A7 III camera settings. Under Setup (tool box) page 4, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi". If you already have that setting on your camera, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. Hope that helps.
Se Park
Thank you so much, I’ll do that right now 😉🎥👏👏👏
I think more pros prefer the manfrotto mount compared to arca swiss
The app can still be updated though.
I just got mine but having trouble setting it up with quick release can u do a video of how to set it up?
Yeh that quick release plate isn't perfect. On the next Weebill video, I'll try to talk more about the plate. I know you may have figured it out by the time I make that video but if you think you can describe it in words, I'll try to help out.
Does wireless transmission work in Sony a6500? How did you connect the Weebill Lab to your phone and camera? I tried several ways but it does not give me the live feed. Are you getting also heating on the bsck motor? Mine is heating too much and just stop working, even if I balance the gimbal correctly.
Hi Robert, I haven't tried a6500 but you would think it has a pretty good chance since it works with Sony A7 III. I would start with seeing if the cable is working by seeing if the record button on the gimbal works with your camera recording capability. If that works, make sure both bluetooth and wifi is connected via the phone to your gimbal. Only having bluetooth does not transmit the image. For the overheating, my motor is not even warm when using about 20-30 minutes so there is something going on there.
@@SePark thanks for the quick response. what usb settings on my camera should I choose for connecting the gimbal to my camera? :)
@@everythingnice haha it's the benefit of being a small UA-cam channel, but man I'm finally barely keeping up with all the comments. LOL Assuming a6500 has a similar menu as A7 III, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi".
@@SePark ill sub to your channel :)
I’m not having any luck getting transmission to my phone from the weebill & my Sony camera. I’ve tried the provided cable and connected to both ports on the gimbal. Any other suggestions??
Hi, one of the comments that helped someone was: right out of the default settings, it didn't work for me until I change my Sony A7 III camera settings. Under Setup (tool box) page 4, USB connection needs to be in "PC Remote" and USB LUN setting in "Multi". If you already have that setting on your camera, I would suggest making sure that cable is tightly in with the "L" shape micro USB cord in the gimbal side. You'll also have to make sure that both Bluetooth and Wifi needs to be connected to the gimbal. Hope that helps.
Se Park Omg! It was the “PC Remote”! Connected immediately. Thank you so much🙌🏼
I have an A73 with a Zeiss Batis 18mm F2.8 and I can barely get it to balance ... and If I add a Rode VideoMic Pro Plus ontop also, forget it .. the payload is still way under but I can't get it right. any suggestions ?
Sup TEM! Sorry for the late response man. I'm used to getting like 8 comments per video. This is crazy! LOL I just shot a wedding with Sony G Master 16-35 mm on this Weebill no problem (it's twice the weight of 18 mm). Well I had to remove the eye cup but I think this should be able to handle Batis 18 mm without a sweat. Are you using a taller plate by any chance? Buddy of mine tried to use his own quick release plate, and this gimbal isn't very forgiving if you raise the plate height. The space we get to mount the camera is so small. Not sure if that was your issue, but I'm going to make a second Weebill UA-cam video shortly talking more about my experience.
Se Park lol all good brother ... I actually returned it today, I’m just gonna rock with my Ronin S. I tried to balance that setup for a while and it just wasn’t working out for me. Keep up the good work
@@TheEverythingMan yeh, ,,if you experienced Ronin-S I can see Weebill isn't as amazing as someone who is coming from Crane v2. BTW, love your channel and how you say it like it is to share your thoughts. Not many gear review channel like that. You go man!
Se Park thanks man that’s really cool of you to say. I look forward to seeing you pump out some more vids ASAP
Thanks for this. Would this also work with A7R3 plus 16-35 GM? How about Really Right Stuff plates?
Thanks Billy! It just happens that I just uploaded a new UA-cam video with that exact lens and what that experience was like. Really Right Stuff arca swiss plate won't work since the only Arca-Swiss plate this thing will hold is their own. There is a special teeth mechanism that locks it in and no one has that except Zhiyun.
@@SePark Wait, the Weebill Lab can balance the A7R3 with the 16-35 GM lens? I thought the 16-35 was too long for the Weebill
@@paulchiu yes with one small modification. It's actually really usable. Check out the new video I just uploaded. You'll see the test footage there too. 😀
Is there any kind of auto calibration feature in case the horizon gets crooked?
Yes, there are two calibration tools: one is 6 point calibration tool which was pain to do since you basically have to position your gimbal in 6 different ways (can't wait till I do a video on this lol) and the other method, which is so much easier, is the Motor Calibration. You just simply input how many degrees you want to correct. The second method worked for me.
Se Park great thanks, yeah I have the Zhiyun v2 and cannot do the 6 step calibration to save my life...
Thx for the review ...
My pleasure! Thanks for stopping by!
Is it laggy? The live view in the app
Hey man! Give BH a call, the item is listed now that it includes the phone mount, they'll gladly send you one over!
Haha, and they didn't even ask too much. They placed an order for me and it's coming in few weeks! Thanks for that comment!
Se Park I just received mine too, did you actually call for your phone mount or just email? Thanks!
@@sarahwagner2998 Hi Sarah, I used the Contact Us section on the very bottom of the B&H website. I selected Customer Service "other" category. I basically told them the picture on their website when I bought it did not have the phone mount grayed out. I'm guessing they can tell when you ordered it. If you ordered it prior to their website picture change, they probably send you one without much conversation since it is offered free now. Either way, definitely worth the try.
@@SePark Perfect, I just sent them an email to start the conversation! Thank You! Hope this helps!! :)
Good review, a lot of good takeaways here but that bg music is ultra annoying.
My biggest regret of 2018 - that background music and level.... Helped with all the videos I created after this one. Thanks Andrew!
Very informative but the music tempo is so out of place for the content...
Awesome review!
Hi Susanna! So glad to see you around! Hope everything is well! Thanks for watching! That's so cool!
Thank you so much, Se! It's been a busy fall, but thankfully, all is well! Wishing you & your family a very Happy Holiday season coming up. Keep up the great videos. 👍🏾
Loved the video! You're funny :)
Haha, thanks, I try to have fun!
You have a link to download the v1.83 firmware via computer? Upgrading firmware fails to upgrade from 1.82 to 1.83 via my redmi note 4Thx.
I couldn't find it on Zhiyun's website. It's funny how they don't even have Weebill listed under the firmware download options. Have you tried disconnecting and connecting to the router and back to Weebill manually?