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I'm so glad that the Plymouth museum includes the history of the Wampanoag tribe who were the first contact people to interact with the Pilgrims. The Wampanoag people also survived because the new people brought diseases like smallpox that many tribes had no immunity from and many tribes no longer exist
That's awesome - and a super important part of the history of the US! I wish YT didn't block URL's so we could post the website here for people to take a look at the online museum.
@@suzannes5888 Indigenous history in the Americas goes back over 20,000 years and includes thousands of different tribes before the Pilgrims arrived. I'm Lakota so we were in the middle of the continent but many eastern tribes interacted with colonial people for over a hundred years before my people had any contact. I am so pleased the museum included the Wampanoag because it's doubtful that the Pilgrims would have survived at all without their help. I think they were blown off course and didn't intend to land so far north. They were unprepared for harsh winter.
As a native Janner (Local name for Plymothians) this warms my heart and seeing my great friend, Marrick Taylor, share the fruits of his vast local knowledge to boot! A great episode, many thanks.
My 11th great grandfather on my fathers side is Elder William Brewster and my 10th great grandfather is Thomas Prence who married Patience Brewster the Daughter of Elder William Brewster. Both men signed the Mayflower Compact. I’m so proud of My English/ Scottish/German and Swiss heritage on my fathers side. My mothers side is all English. They immigrated to the USA from England in 1914. I was hoping to visit the UK then Covid hit. I’m loving this UA-cam channel and Mapperton channel also.
I have liked Julie since she was a member of the cast on a Bravo channel's show called "Ladies of London ". She was great on that, but she does an amazing job hosting these UA-cam videos . Very well done. Informative and entertaining. I hope that people enjoy her content as much as I do, and that they will donate the funds needed to keep this venture afloat. I would like to see more from her in the future. c:
I’ve lived in New England all my 57 years and made many trips to Plymouth Massachusetts. In the US the story told glosses over the hardships for the Pilgrim’s and the Native Americans. It’s great to hear another prospective of this history.
Love your channel! I’m in NC. My UK family first arrived to Virginia in 1648. They migrated to North Carolina where my g-g-g + father owned 11,000 acres of beautiful farmland which largely is still owned by many cousins. My ancestor Harper was a Lt Colonel in the Continental Army in the Revolutionary War and I had 2 gg grandfathers who fought in the Civil War. My entire family are largely British, Scot and Irish with a couple of Native Americans in the mix. My Sizemore family has been connected back to Pocahontas. Love my diverse genealogy. ❤️
Then you should find it interesting to know that our American Thanksgiving tradition is based almost entirely on the Virginia Thanksgiving tradition and not the Plymouth one. Even the date is based on Virginia harvest which would have been later in the fall. In Massachusetts, the harvest would have concluded in late September/early October whereas in Virginia the harvest would have concluded early to mid November depending on the crop. George Washington, from Virginia, was largely responsible for Thanksgiving being celebrated as a national holiday though it would be many decades before it was recognized as a federal holiday. As for how my Mayflower ancestors celebrated Thanksgiving, they went to bed early the previous day with their clothes on, got up, walked up the hill to the make shift fort and sat there all day in "church" reading scripture and hearing sermons and praying and in between eating beans and drinking beer and generally being thankful they didn't die in the "general sickness."
What an amazing journey the passengers had! Stories they would have to tell... Some good and some bad. People sick and dying! The storms! Thank you for sharing this part of history with all of us!
The Museum is wonderful.Thank you for the tour!!! Particularly impressed that the Wampanoag people are represented!!! The lighthouse tour is fabulous!!! love from Vermont
Thank you for taking us to Plymouth,England! I have been to Plymouth Massachusetts many times.Going on the Mayflower II is always interesting.It is so small when you think of going to sea on her.She is very beautiful and the "Historical Actors" on board are amazing.Highly recommend visiting!! One of my fondest childhood memories was spending Thanksgiving Day in Plymouth Mass. Personally I don't know how anyone would have taken the original trip.One look at the original ship in Plymouth England and I would have gone back home.The conditions would have been way to harsh for me.This is fascinating history!!! Love from Vermont
I wasn't going to watch this video, not because I thought it wouldn't be stellar (of course all Julie's videos are wonderful), but because I find it very difficult to separate the individual personal stories of the real people looking for a better life, from Colonialism (which was responsible for them having the opportunity in the first place), and all the atrocities and genocide that colonizing "the new world" was responsible for. This has helped me, a least a little bit, to see the people themselves.
Thank you for mentioning this. The tragedy is that the surviving Wampanoag still face genocide due to our governments policies, and this is not common knowledge.
@@chrisbeckstrom6182 The US and Canada are definitely still very much colonialist, which includes the continued purposeful oppression of the Indigenous people. Unfortunately, the oppression is designed to be pretty much invisible to the people who aren't being oppressed.
Wow, that's sad. That wasn't my experience growing up in the US. (Thankfully so much - on many topics - is available online these days through museums, academia, and non-profits.)
This episode got me thinking that in this era, I see parallels in the many suffering migrant families leaving war torn and economically broken countries , hoping for a better life. 💖
Excellent piece... Note that the Plymouth area accent, although ironed out these days in most people, is one of the origins of the American accent of the northern states, especially the rhotic r sound, as in how Americans pronounce 'park' - I appreciate that not all of Dixie has this
As a descendant of a Mayflower passenger, I enjoyed this. There's so much history that other people have listed. I've belonged to a number of the historical "genealogical" societies. There are many stories about why people moved and the triumphs, disappointments and even the heartaches of leaving behind family. Well-done.
Lovely to see a gracious intelligent Lady. Amazing how you have passed all your knowledge and informative information to us and given us all this important history on your u tube channels . No airs and graces just important facts which will keep me watching. An American has shown the Brits how it should be done. Well done.
Related to John Alden and Pricilla. On my mother’s side. A great sense of pride for the courage it took for a new life, distressing that it came at a cost to the native Americans.
I did ponder for quite awhile on the tenacity of the separatists. I absolutely am impressed. I am so delighted that my ancestors followed William Bradford. He was a visionary like no other. I also did research into records of my ancestors arrest by The Crown. Many were taken to The Tower of London. They were set free later. On my father’s side we descend from Digory Preist, and on my mother’s side Edward Fuller and his wife. I really came away from my research adoring Digory because he so edgy. Unfortunately he died on the Mayflower.
My family set sail, too, from the very early 1800’s from Plymouth. They settled in Canada.Two years ago I visited Plymouth. Very moving experience for me and also for other descendants of other folks who visit Plymouth. Thanks for the posting!
Thanks for sharing the story behind the Mayflower. It's true about growing up in the states & what we were taught about the pilgrims. Didn't know about the original 2 ships. Very interesting.
Very interesting, thank you A great aunt researched 45 years to gather my grandfather's ancestry dating back to the Mayflower. Govenor Bradford, 1st Govenor of Plymouth is a part of our family tree. 3 years ago, my brother went to visit England.The church in Austerfield where Govenor Bradford was born and began his ministry is closed. With all the proper documents,a lovely lady opened the door to the church. Imagine receiving a call from Austerfield, England hearing a brother beyond excited- he was sitting in the pew,our ancestors sat in.
William Bradford was governor and the author of the single most important book on the subject of the pilgrims "Of Plimoth Plantation" but he was not a minister. He was definitely a leader of the colony but he did not preach per se. There were several who did that including his close friend another William named Brewster who was my ancestor. I am also descended from Bradford's second wife by way of her son Constant Southworth.
@@nunyabiznez6381 Isn't it fascinating to learn about our family tree . My grandparents had a cottage near Plymouth. Every summer our family would take our vacation at the cottage and visit Plymouth . All my life I heard of my family's connection to Govenor Bradford and the Mayflower. My grandfather was a big story teller. Can you imagine a grandfather telling his 5 young grandchildren that he sailed the Mayflower with all the Pilgrims? At 71, I still chuckle.
@@SandraGarcia-ho4lb Your grandfather isn't the only one. My Dad used to tell us stories of how one of our ancestors owned almost all of Florida during the time of the American Revolution. As little kids we just swallowed such stories hook, line, lead weights et al. Later when I took history in high school it included a couple of days about Florida history and there were no mentions of any of our ancestors or anyone else owning a significant % of Florida so of course that is when I learned my Dad just liked to tell stories. He died while I was still in high school. Then years later I reconnected with his aunt who I hadn't seen since my early childhood and barely remembered. We embarked on some family history research. That is when I learned that I did indeed have some Spanish ancestors who did indeed live in Florida. Some deeper digging revealed that when in 1763 Spain handed Florida over to Britain and all the Spanish fled Florida for other parts of New Spain, mostly Cuba, except for three families and the wealthiest of them was my Spanish ancestor who was temporarily given control over about 2/3 of the private holdings of those refugees managing their interests while they were in Cuba. That constituted the majority of the Colony in the area around St. Augustine, roughly corresponding to about 20% of the current state of Florida. Turns out that ancestor conducted business with the British military governor serving as their primary supplier of food while simultaneously acting as a liaison between that military governor and the refugees in Cuba while simultaneously spying for the Americans who he was also supplying beef for (at the time Florida was the biggest producer of beef in north America and my ancestor had a monopoly on beef production in Florida). So while technically, my Dad was wrong, I found out that he had merely repeated a somewhat blurry version of the truth. Perhaps your grandfather was telling a tongue in cheek story. But perhaps he was also telling a story with a certain amount of truth in it. My Dad told us hundreds of fantastical stories about our ancestors' exploits over the centuries and I have tracked down the origins of roughly half of those stories and have discovered that of those, every one began as something truthful that got distorted over the generations. I no longer discount oral history no matter how fantastic it seems. Another example was a claim made by my father that we were descended from royalty. I discovered about ten years ago we are descended from Charlemagne. Of course half of Europe and most of France and Germany are also descended from Charlemagne but that would explain that story and that's more than 30 generations ago. My father was born on the Cape and we still have family there. Every summer we would make numerous trips down to visit cousins and aunts and uncles. I remember going to an "ancient cemetery" in Centerville and taking notes from head stones and there were three other people doing the same thing and then we were all taking notes on the same family grouping and that is when we all simultaneously realized we were all distant cousins on the same quest.
@@nunyabiznez6381 Thank you for sharing your ancestry, it is so interesting to learn about our family tree. We wanted to learn more about my dad's side but, he passed away many years ago and with my grandparents from Spain, not much could be traced . My uncle had told my dad many years ago, we could have legally changed our last name to Tresguerrez, but to complicated. My mom's dad traces back to the Mayflower and Govenor Bradford. My mom was born on Martha's Vineyard, where much of my grandmother's side resided. Her name was actually spelled Smyth then changed to Smith .You have me very curious now to begin digging deeper into my heritage. Thank you
@@SandraGarcia-ho4lb I can tell you that Spanish records in Madrid are reputed to be quite good. While knowledge of the Spanish language would come in handy, if one has the resources one could have someone do the research. Some cousins of mine went to Spain to do research and I now know some of my Spanish ancestry going back to the late 1500's. It's enough to register as 0.2% of my 23andMe dna test results. If you haven't done so I recommend DNA testing to augment genealogy research. If you can have tests by different companies done as each gives a slightly different result. They interpret results differently and they have different data bases. Tresguerrez is not a common Spanish name and so this is a good thing because now you don't have as many records to sift through. In my Spanish branch we have names like Perez and Sanchez which are very common and that means I have to figure out which Jose Sanchez I'm descended from and I mean which of thousands and it could be none of them. Smyth is better than Smith for research as well. The most common name in America is Jim Smith. There hundreds of thousands of them. There are 300 people in the U.S. with my exact first and last name so that helps and about 20 of them share my middle name. When people immigrate to the U.S. they need a friend or relative to sponsor them usually and that has been the case for over a century. Exceptions are made for refugees and those seeking political asylum but most need to have a contact in the U.S. So the thing to do would be to start there. Find out as much as you can about your Dad's and Grandparent's family and friends from the period of immigration. If your grandparents died in the United States then it is very likely their parent's names are on the death record. If they married in the United States then their parents, all four, will definitely be on the marriage record. Then look for someone sharing one of those last names who served as sponsor. That would likely be a family member, perhaps an aunt or uncle. I was able to do this with some of my Irish ancestors who came here 120 years ago and ended up using a succession of aunts/uncles of preceding generations to learn the names of ancestors who never came here all from American vital records. In 1903 my great grandfather came from Ireland. He married here. It showed his town in Ireland on the passenger list. Just not his parents. But I found his marriage certificate to my great grandmother and on it all four of their parents are listed as is required even today. That is how I came to know my great, great grandparents and at least one town they lived in. I also learned that my great grandparents lived a mile from each other in Ireland in two neighboring tiny villages and so it is very likely they knew each other before coming here. There is a romantic story in there someplace I have not yet recovered. Also on the immigration record for that great grandfather it says the name of a "friend" who lives here. I later checked the city directory for that town 1905 and it shows him still living at the address of that "friend." So I looked up the vital records and it shows that "friend" had married ten years before and had the same last name as my great grandfather's mother's maiden name and that showed they were likely sisters making her my great grandfather's aunt. Her parents, from the same town as my great grandfather, were listed on her marriage certificate. I found an Irish record that showed those parents having a child with the same name as the great, great grandfather above and from that I have my great, great, great grandfather without having to physically visit Ireland to obtain that. Then repeating the process I discovered even earlier records indicating that for two prior generations the siblings of some of my Irish ancestors who themselves never left Ireland had come here leaving records so I now have the names of four great, great, great, great grandparents and six fifth great grandparents including one whose brother fought in the American Revolution. This kind of peripheral research technique is very useful in tracing families who had multiple generations of relatives who came here. A lot of Spanish people came to the United States when we beat Spain in the Spanish American War. Many of them sponsored future relatives who came later. Perhaps there are answers related to that in your family tree. In any case, my point is don't give up on discovering your Spanish roots even if there are differences in language, culture or a lack of resources. I've done most of my research on a $25 a month Ancestry dot com membership.
that is all such a heart ranching story for them to all endure! I also remember my mum telling me, that she remembers seeing Plymouth Sound in WWII being full of Sunderland flying boats! Sadly my mum passed away on the 27th September 2019 aged 95.
This is very interesting from the other side. My family in the last few years have been able to directly link our ancestors to those surviving members of the Mayflower. I’m Canadian, many of us came up the eastern US through Main and Connecticut. Landing in what is now Southwestern Ontario. It’s wild to think how many people can say the same…lol We definitely had large families. Most from 10 to 13 children.
Thanks why did they want to leave? Sorry I’ve just subscribed ! I don’t know 🤷♀️ we weren’t taught this when I was at school 🏫 here in England 🏴 bye from London 🌹
@@tabitha4135 As for leaving England, I can’t give you specific reasons why they left. I haven’t been able to find actual stories yet. What I think is like most that left, they were looking for a better life. Life was hard back then…crowded dirty cities…. Coming to the “new world” with promises of vast lands, clean air and bountiful hunting, clean water…..They obviously thought it was worth the long hard voyage. They weren’t ready for the harsh weather they would encounter. They had little shelter or knowledge of how to cope in the first few years. I find it interesting that the majority of my family ended up coming to Canada in the long run. There were a number of differing views how government should work in the new world. Here in Canada we also had many immigrants from France. So there was waring between French & English, as well as those of us English who wanted to continue being ruled by England and those who wanted a clean break away from the monarchy. This is how Canada ended up with two official languages and unique way of governing. Our Province of Quebec also follows Napoleonic laws that differ somewhat then the rest of Canada. Canada and the USA wared between each other leading to our borders as we know them today. My family fought for the North during the USA civil war and were divided in the war of 1812. I believe most of my family chose Canada because the were looking for a better place for all….where as the USA are more interested in being able to gain personal wealth. Hence why the USA is a capitalist country.
I think the ships captains and crew were incredible. It’s just amazing anyone could survive such a journey. Coming into cape would not have been an easy thing. There are so many rocks 🪨
Love this video, Julie!! My husband's family came to America in 1630 (documented), from England. Through DNA, my family also came over pretty early too, but we haven't completely worked it all out yet. Really glad you were able to visit the site where the Mayflower left to go to America. I've never seen it before, so that was very exciting! I got to visit Plymouth Rock and the replica Mayflower in Massachusetts as a kid. Was really interesting. I've been a fan of 17th century architecture ever since. I live in Florida now, which is practically devoid of history, in comparison. I love videos about hist,so keep up the good work!
My 12x great grandfather was Elder William Brewster, through a matrilineal line. Thank you for doing this! I was really wondering and diagrams only show you so much.
I am descended from William Brewster. Hannah is correct; there were many other colonies established in "The New World", but most of them were short-lived. The 'Plymouth Colony" had the highest survival rate (such as it was), and lasted the longest. Thanks for another great episode, I am really enjoying them!
Actually, the Massachusetts Bay Colony had the highest survival rate and lasted far longer completely absorbing Plymouth Colony within a few decades. Plymouth Colony was more or less limited to present day Barnstable, Plymouth, Bristol counties and the islands whereas Massachusetts Bay Colony consisted of present day Norfolk, Sufolk, Middlesex and Essex Counties which evolved into the much larger greater Boston metropolitan area. by 1650, Massachusetts Bay had surpassed Plymouth colony by population. In fact Massachusetts Bay even had it's own colonies, in particular Harford. But by 1691 Plymouth Colony ceased to exist as a separate entity. Massachusetts continued as a colony for another 85 years.
Such a great episode. The Plymouth company launching ships from 1620 on and the London company (Jamestown, VA) launching ships from 1606 on both have such great and terrifying history. Love it.
Being a Virginian, I need to point out that Jamestown was around a dozen years before the Pilgrims left England. In fact, Pocahontas went from being a child (about 10), got married, had a kid, traveled to England and died before the Pilgrims left England. The story of British America is more than the myths that we like to believe.
The Pilgrims originally intended to land in Northern Virginia and the Hudson River (today New York) was their intended destination. They had received good reports on this region while in the Netherlands. The Mayflower was almost right on target, missing the Hudson River by just a few degrees. As they approached land, the crew spotted Cape Cod just as the sun rose on November 9, 1620. The Pilgrims decided to head south, to the mouth of the Hudson River in New York, where they intended to make their plantation. But the rough seas nearly shipwrecked the Mayflower and instead they decided to stay and explore Cape Cod rather than risk another journey south.
@@tmj5girl and before that the Vikings called it Vineland. And before that the Native Americans ancestors traveled the Bering Straits area to the Americas following the animal herds for food. Before this there was microbes. 😆
My ancestor, Stephen Hopkins, was present for the first Thanksgiving in Virginia in 1610. He didn't like the conditions there and returned to England where he joined up with the pilgrims and celebrated their first thanksgiving 11 years later in 1621. He is the only person known to have been present for both events. You are correct though, our story is far more than the myths. The Thanksgiving we celebrate today is almost entirely derived from the one celebrated in Jamestown NOT the one in Plymouth which consisted of praying in the meeting house all day and eating beans and drinking beer and as far as inviting Indians over or playing games were concerned, that would have been considered sinful on a Sunday.
We went on field trips in Plymouth to see the May flower and it was a tiny ship. I also went to Plymouth plantation more than once. I can not imagine how hard it was.
I'm going to visit the exhibition in Plymouth I think. The curator said that the reconstruction of the Mayfair was done on a smaller scale to fit into the museum. The real ship would have been much larger.
Julie, thank you for the history lesson.... and seeing the descendants up on the wall of the Mayflower ship... most interesting indeed :-) From this kiwi in Aotearoa New Zealand.
Glad I saw this!! So cool...It appears that I have Mayflower connections too, through Richard Warren and potentially Myles Standish, but still researching.
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Thank you s o much for making this video my lady. I am one of the many, many descendants of the pilgrims arriving on these shores. So I loved seeing where they left from. I’m a recent subscriber to your channel but I already love it so much! You are such a lovely person.
Love it! I grew up in east central Illinois. Schooled in the early 70s. I don’t recall the Speedwell being mentioned. Thank you for another interesting and informative episode!
One more enlightened video. I am a fanatic on history. I do enjoy seeing your Plymouth versus ours. I have wondered many times what the world would look like if it hadn't been for Henry V111 messing it all up. His insanity started the religious groups wishing for freedom. Martin's Hundred came to Virginia in 1593? They were killed by Native Americans. Then another group landed in Jamestown in 1607. They should have been the founders of America but Founding Fathers didn't want our history started by slave owners. So, Plymouth it is. Thanks for a history lesson for all of those who didn't listen in school. I guess Britain can use to hear the what & why's of our story. Happy Thanksgiving, from Philadelphia.
Please be aware that indigenous peoples lived in The America’s for thousands of years very successfully, prior to the Europeans “discovered” this land! I truly believe that history should teach whole truths - Not just what the
Wow, as an American I don’t remember learning any of the back story of the people immigrating to the States. Absolutely fascinating yet.very sad how many people didn’t make it. Such brave people.
I enjoyed seeing where they set sail from. It is a beautiful place. I am a descendant of Digory Priest on my paternal side. He died on the Mayflower. His wife and children came later on the Anne. He and his wife have thousands of descendants in the USA. I also have Edward Fuller and his wife on my maternal side.
History is so important - and interesting! Most people don't realize that only 102 adults were on the actual Mayflower itself - and they definitely weren't all Pilgrims (Separatists). If you look at the Mayflower's passenger logs, the 102 passengers on the ship included 37 members of the separatist Leiden congregation - who would go on to be known as the Pilgrims, plus 4 others. They travelled together with the non-separatist paying passengers. There were 74 men and 28 women - 18 were listed as servants, 13 of which were attached to separatist families, and then the crew members on board doing their jobs. There are thought to have been 31 children on the Mayflower, with one child being born during the voyage. Forty-one (41) of the passengers in total would comprise the group of people that became known as the Pilgrims. Unfortunately, 45 of the 102 passengers died in the first winter, after they arrived in Plymouth on November 11, 1620. I have seen and heard many who claim they're a descendent of a Mayflower Pilgrim, yet the name they give as their relative was either, not listed as being on the Mayflower at all, or was actually on the ship for other reasons, or as an anti-separatists. Historians would later label the two groups as the "Saints" and the "Sinners". The Mayflower organization estimates that there are 30 million descendents of all those aboard the Mayflower. For anyone interested, the full historical passenger log from the Mayflower documenting who was actually on the ship, and which of the passengers were Pilgrims, or the reason they were on the ship. The list is now available online, along witb a map documenting where each of the passengers was born. (Just Google: Mayflower 400 UK and Passenger List - YT won't let me post it here.) In the end, we are all only responsible for the choices and good we do for the people and world around us during our time here on Earth, as we each strive to live happy, productive lives - and hopefully to be a kind, helping hand to those around us in need. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! 🦃🌽🍗🍁🍂
@@homerwiggins3965 My 17th Great Grandfather was Thomas Rodgers, who passed that first winter. His son survived and our family just found out about this. No shock that there are so many of us related to these brave people.
Actually they called themselves "Saints" and they called everyone else "Strangers" not "sinners." Also, there was no log. The book you are probably thinking of is William Bradford's "Of Plimoth Plantation"
@@nunyabiznez6381 My information is from the scholars at the official Mayflower Society, who are the definitive source regarding the Mayflower and its history - and have been intensively studying and archiving the records over the decades - so if you disagree with them you can take that up with them. There is a validated list/manifest of passengers and crew. You can see it on their site and the record of it at various museums.
@@suzannes5888 I do not dispute anything you just said. I said there was no log and 100% of the "list/manifest" you speak of comes from one single source and I stated it's name in my previous comment. 95% of everything we know about the pilgrims comes from Bradford. That said, no official list/manifest survived. Such a list/manifest would have stayed with the Mayflower and it's owners and the Mayflower disappeared from history not long after it returned to England. So no official ship's log or manifest or list or any other official document survived. Basically, Bradford's work was a personal journal he kept and he happened to be fairly thorough in his treatment of the subject which is why we now have a wealth of knowledge about the pilgrims. We have since tracked down a great deal of information in records and the writings of others but without Bradford's work we wouldn't have the slightest idea that those documents applied to the Mayflower passengers. As a scholar and a fourth generation member of The General Society Of Mayflower Descendants since 1976, I have been researching my 24 Mayflower ancestors for over fifty years and have contributed articles on the topic to the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. I also have in my personal possession a handful of documents written by actual Mayflower passengers (my ancestors) that have been passed down through the generations though none are nearly as enlightening as Bradford's work. If you want to truly learn about the Mayflower passengers I suggest obtaining a copy of "Of Plimoth Plantation" by William Bradford and read it and base all other research on that foundation of knowledge.
I am a descendant of John Alden who came over on the Mayflower as crew and a barrel maker and became an important member of the community who served on the Governors Council for many years.
I love history so that was the most amazing video that I saw I live in Texas and I didn’t know half of that information thank you for sharing please continue to share
My 9th great-grandfather, Edward Doty, sailed to the New World on the Mayflower and signed the Mayflower Compact. Unfortunately, he was well-known for his temper, a trait that seems to have been passed down to me--lol. It was a tough thing to overcome.
Hi SuzyQ, You might want to check the passenger manifest of the Mayflower. There was nobody on it with the name "Doty", although I did find someone with the listed name of: "Edward Doten, servant of Stephen Hopkins". There is no other last name starting with D-O-T. Although, Stephen Hopkins is listed as an non-Seperatist passenger, not a Pilgrim. The 37 Seperatist males, plus 4 others (including Doten) on the Mayflower signed the agreement while enroute. (The document didn't originally have a name, but was later named the "Mayflower Compact".) In that first winter of 1620-21 forty-five (45) of the 102 passengers (plus some of the crew) died. Doten survived that winter. You can find these records online at the "Mayflower Society" and the "Mayflower 400 UK" organization. My guess is that somebody maybe passsd a typo down (??) , but that's very cool if Doten is your ancestor! (Other than a couple of folks, many of the names people are listing on this thread are not on the passenger manifest at all.) Happy Almost Thanksgiving!
@@suzannes5888 Yes, the spellings are not always correct. I do a lot of genealogy and find that our ancestors names may be misspelled. I was stuck on one of my Scottish ancestors until my cousin cleared it up. My cousin said he probably had a thick accent that was hard to understand and he attached himself to the Dutch Colony in what was New Amsterdam. There were the Dutch speaking people trying to understand a Scott! They wrote his name as Darm, when it was Durham. I had ancestors on the Mayflower too. Digory Preist and Edward Fuller.
Edward Doty is also my ancestor! Doty is my grandmother's maiden name, and other relatives have helped me with tracing our family back to the Mayflower. It's been fun to research and learn about family history. I hope to one day visit the area in England where Edward was from.
Isaac Allerton, my ninth Great Grandfather was among those on the Mayflower in 1620 with his Wife Faith Brewster. They began their voyage at Delft Haven in Rotterdam as they had left England years before and settled in Leiden to escape religious persecution. They traveled to Southampton and boarded Mayflower and Speedwell sailing to the New World. Speedwell was a leaky boat so they put in at Plymouth to see if repairs could be made. It was not possible so they sailed on in the Mayflower alone. I walked through the Western Gate of Southampton and from the dock at Delft Haven following my ancestor's path.
Thank you so very much for filming this episode. I descend from thirteen individuals who made that famous passage. Covid forced us to cancel our travel plans for the 400th anniversary. Someday!
We in the states are still on a journey for freedom. Proud and free we are to this day. Sometimes we move forward because we look backward! Onward we go!
This is a really interesting video. I've been to Plymouth many times, but not seen it from the perspective that Julie shows here. I do hope that the USA's education system has changed and that the history they teach children now recognises that there were people there for thousands of years before the Mayflower.
I am a Winslow descendant of passenger Edward Winslow. I recently read the nook by Rebecca Fraser entitled The Mayflower Generation. According to this account which included accounts of the pre and post voyage days, the group that boarded the ship did so at that time oh year because the man who agreed to sponsor the group did so at that time. This group were a group who were fleeing England due to religious persecution from King James. They had also spent time living in Leiden Holland working as wool workers. Interesting how these accounts have not been shared in traditional history books. My ancestor was the member who could read and write so he sent written accounts back to England. He wrote the account of the first Thanksgiving that is followed to this day.
The pilgrims were aiming to settle in Dutch territory around New York. There is a lot of mythmaking in that part of history, and I think people need to read into it without projecting the future on it. In Plymouth we've had to tackle the whole of it, including the bad bits, including religious fundamentalism and destruction of the natives. But it's nice to see my city.
Actually, the pilgrims officially had permission to settle in Virginia which they obtained prior to departing England. However, they never intended to go to Virginia but instead all along intended to settle in what is now New England and fairly close to where they ended up. Stephen Hopkins was shipwrecked in Bermuda about a decade earlier and eventually made his way to Jamestown and observed the conditions there were absolutely deplorable and so were a great many who were living there. Gosnold and Captain Jones were acquainted and Gosnold had told Captain Jones about Cape Cod and that area and how it might be a good place to settle. But when they got to the cape they discovered it was not appropriate for growing crops being extremely sandy so they sailed north in search of more fertile soil and found that in Plymouth. As for the Dutch territory around New York, I don't know where you heard that from as they had never had any intention of going their either. They left Holland due to the cultural differences and didn't want to raise a generation of children in an area they considered sinful. They wanted all along to create a theocratic enclave as far from outside influences as possible and that is exactly what they did. I suggest reading William Bradford's "Of Plimoth Plantation" as a good start.
They actually started there journey and boarded from Southampton, the place of departure is marked by a monument, they stopped of at Plymouth to take in supplies, before starting the long journey.
My mothers family goes back to the mayflower as well. The first baby born in the new world . My husbands family goes back to the second voyage. I think many of us in America can trace a relative back to that fateful voyage. Curious enough, also distantly related to the Earl of Sandwich . It’s all that seven degrees of separation theory in action.
Peregrine White was born in November 1620 aboard the Mayflower. Presumably that is your ancestor of which you speak. But he was only the first English baby born in Plymouth Colony not the first baby born in the new world. One of my ancestors was born in St. Augustine Florida in 1602 and isn't even the first. That distinction goes to Martín de Argüelles who was born there in 1566 and even they probably wasn't the first, simply the first known in that colony. New Spain was settled long before that and so there were many other European children born throughout Spanish America long before any of the Pilgrims were born in England. And please don't think I am disparaging the Mayflower passengers, 18 of my ancestors were among them including Stephen Hopkins who visited Jamestown in 1610.
This is so fascinating. So much history. And I love that so many people who are watching this are descended from the Mayflower passengers! Thank you! 🌸🌸
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I'm so glad that the Plymouth museum includes the history of the Wampanoag tribe who were the first contact people to interact with the Pilgrims. The Wampanoag people also survived because the new people brought diseases like smallpox that many tribes had no immunity from and many tribes no longer exist
That's awesome - and a super important part of the history of the US! I wish YT didn't block URL's so we could post the website here for people to take a look at the online museum.
@@suzannes5888 Indigenous history in the Americas goes back over 20,000 years and includes thousands of different tribes before the Pilgrims arrived. I'm Lakota so we were in the middle of the continent but many eastern tribes interacted with colonial people for over a hundred years before my people had any contact. I am so pleased the museum included the Wampanoag because it's doubtful that the Pilgrims would have survived at all without their help. I think they were blown off course and didn't intend to land so far north. They were unprepared for harsh winter.
The Pilmoth colony in Massachusetts has always included the Wampanoag Tribe, including a movie documentary
As a native Janner (Local name for Plymothians) this warms my heart and seeing my great friend, Marrick Taylor, share the fruits of his vast local knowledge to boot! A great episode, many thanks.
Mayflower descendant here! William Bradford signed sealed...
My 11th great grandfather on my fathers side is Elder William Brewster and my 10th great grandfather is Thomas Prence who married Patience Brewster the Daughter of Elder William Brewster. Both men signed the Mayflower Compact. I’m so proud of My English/ Scottish/German and Swiss heritage on my fathers side. My mothers side is all English. They immigrated to the USA from England in 1914. I was hoping to visit the UK then Covid hit. I’m loving this UA-cam channel and Mapperton channel also.
Hi cousin
My 9th great grandparents are John Alden and Priscilla Mullins... can’t wait to watch!!
Hello cousin
Same here, my 11th great grandparents
I am am also a grandchild of John Alden.
Hi cuz
I have liked Julie since she was a member of the cast on a Bravo channel's show called "Ladies of London ". She was great on that, but she does an amazing job hosting these UA-cam videos . Very well done. Informative and entertaining. I hope that people enjoy her content as much as I do, and that they will donate the funds needed to keep this venture afloat. I would like to see more from her in the future. c:
Thank you so much!
I’ve lived in New England all my 57 years and made many trips to Plymouth Massachusetts. In the US the story told glosses over the hardships for the Pilgrim’s and the Native Americans. It’s great to hear another prospective of this history.
Greetings from Washington State. What a rich history lesson. Keep it up Julie. God's blessings to you all.
Beautiful video and a great channel! Hello from Sunderland UK! We have a beautiful lighthouse here as well!
Love your channel! I’m in NC. My UK family first arrived to Virginia in 1648. They migrated to North Carolina where my g-g-g + father owned 11,000 acres of beautiful farmland which largely is still owned by many cousins. My ancestor Harper was a Lt Colonel in the Continental Army in the Revolutionary War and I had 2 gg grandfathers who fought in the Civil War. My entire family are largely British, Scot and Irish with a couple of Native Americans in the mix. My Sizemore family has been connected back to Pocahontas. Love my diverse genealogy. ❤️
Very cool. I have a similar interesting rich lineage but my family arrived in 1630 in what is Salem. I love hearing these stories.
Then you should find it interesting to know that our American Thanksgiving tradition is based almost entirely on the Virginia Thanksgiving tradition and not the Plymouth one. Even the date is based on Virginia harvest which would have been later in the fall. In Massachusetts, the harvest would have concluded in late September/early October whereas in Virginia the harvest would have concluded early to mid November depending on the crop. George Washington, from Virginia, was largely responsible for Thanksgiving being celebrated as a national holiday though it would be many decades before it was recognized as a federal holiday. As for how my Mayflower ancestors celebrated Thanksgiving, they went to bed early the previous day with their clothes on, got up, walked up the hill to the make shift fort and sat there all day in "church" reading scripture and hearing sermons and praying and in between eating beans and drinking beer and generally being thankful they didn't die in the "general sickness."
In the USA watching this on Thanksgiving. Perfect!
What an amazing journey the passengers had! Stories they would have to tell... Some good and some bad. People sick and dying! The storms! Thank you for sharing this part of history with all of us!
The Museum is wonderful.Thank you for the tour!!! Particularly impressed that the Wampanoag people are represented!!! The lighthouse tour is fabulous!!! love from Vermont
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for taking us to Plymouth,England! I have been to Plymouth Massachusetts many times.Going on the Mayflower II is always interesting.It is so small when you think of going to sea on her.She is very beautiful and the "Historical Actors" on board are amazing.Highly recommend visiting!! One of my fondest childhood memories was spending Thanksgiving Day in Plymouth Mass. Personally I don't know how anyone would have taken the original trip.One look at the original ship in Plymouth England and I would have gone back home.The conditions would have been way to harsh for me.This is fascinating history!!! Love from Vermont
i just ADORE that they included Wampanog nation stories, not just glorifying the mayflower group!!!
I wasn't going to watch this video, not because I thought it wouldn't be stellar (of course all Julie's videos are wonderful), but because I find it very difficult to separate the individual personal stories of the real people looking for a better life, from Colonialism (which was responsible for them having the opportunity in the first place), and all the atrocities and genocide that colonizing "the new world" was responsible for. This has helped me, a least a little bit, to see the people themselves.
Thank you for mentioning this. The tragedy is that the surviving Wampanoag still face genocide due to our governments policies, and this is not common knowledge.
@@chrisbeckstrom6182 The US and Canada are definitely still very much colonialist, which includes the continued purposeful oppression of the Indigenous people. Unfortunately, the oppression is designed to be pretty much invisible to the people who aren't being oppressed.
Great episode! It is really cool to see what happened from the UK vantage point. We definitely didn't get this much history growing up in the USA.
Wow, that's sad. That wasn't my experience growing up in the US. (Thankfully so much - on many topics - is available online these days through museums, academia, and non-profits.)
Not taught much truth anyway
This episode got me thinking that in this era, I see parallels in the many suffering migrant families leaving war torn and economically broken countries , hoping for a better life. 💖
Yes my ancestry goes back to the Mayflower!! So blessed to live in a great country!!
I agree--religious freedom! ! My husband is also descended directly from John and Priscilla, one of the 35 million in the US. lol.
I hope you get to visit Plymouth, Massachusetts one day! It’s a beautiful place, a little like Plymouth, UK but much smaller.
Excellent piece... Note that the Plymouth area accent, although ironed out these days in most people, is one of the origins of the American accent of the northern states, especially the rhotic r sound, as in how Americans pronounce 'park' - I appreciate that not all of Dixie has this
As a descendant of a Mayflower passenger, I enjoyed this. There's so much history that other people have listed. I've belonged to a number of the historical "genealogical" societies. There are many stories about why people moved and the triumphs, disappointments and even the heartaches of leaving behind family. Well-done.
To think that the actual steps the pilgrims tread upon to find freedom is astounding!
Lovely to see a gracious intelligent Lady. Amazing how you have passed all your knowledge and informative information to us and given us all this important history on your u tube channels . No airs and graces just important facts which will keep me watching. An American has shown the Brits how it should be done. Well done.
Related to John Alden and Pricilla. On my mother’s side. A great sense of pride for the courage it took for a new life, distressing that it came at a cost to the native Americans.
I did ponder for quite awhile on the tenacity of the separatists. I absolutely am impressed. I am so delighted that my ancestors followed William Bradford. He was a visionary like no other. I also did research into records of my ancestors arrest by The Crown. Many were taken to The Tower of London. They were set free later. On my father’s side we descend from Digory Preist, and on my mother’s side Edward Fuller and his wife. I really came away from my research adoring Digory because he so edgy. Unfortunately he died on the Mayflower.
I'm related to Jon Alden too from my mothers side, her mother my grandmother was related to the Redfields!
They also help found Duxbury Massachusetts, they are buried there plus the Alden Society and their home
@@sandrahossman2089 yes along with Miles Standish
In that case we are distant cousins.
My ancestry goes back to the Mayflower and other early settlers as well. I Love this stuff
What a wonderful video. Thanks.
My family set sail, too, from the very early 1800’s from Plymouth. They settled in Canada.Two years ago I visited Plymouth. Very moving experience for me and also for other descendants of other folks who visit Plymouth. Thanks for the posting!
There must be some historical facts in anywhere of UK. Thanks to take us to one of the places.🙏🏻
One of our friends family heritage has their name engraved on Plymouth Rock!
There are no names engraved on Plymouth Rock. The only thing engraved on Plymouth Rock is "1620."
Thanks for sharing the story behind the Mayflower. It's true about growing up in the states & what we were taught about the pilgrims. Didn't know about the original 2 ships. Very interesting.
Very interesting, thank you
A great aunt researched 45 years to gather my grandfather's ancestry dating back to the Mayflower. Govenor Bradford, 1st Govenor of Plymouth is a part of our family tree.
3 years ago, my brother went to visit England.The church in Austerfield where Govenor Bradford was born and began his ministry is closed. With all the proper documents,a lovely lady opened the door to the church. Imagine receiving a call from Austerfield, England hearing a brother beyond excited- he was sitting in the pew,our ancestors sat in.
William Bradford was governor and the author of the single most important book on the subject of the pilgrims "Of Plimoth Plantation" but he was not a minister. He was definitely a leader of the colony but he did not preach per se. There were several who did that including his close friend another William named Brewster who was my ancestor. I am also descended from Bradford's second wife by way of her son Constant Southworth.
@@nunyabiznez6381 Isn't it fascinating to learn about our family tree . My grandparents had a cottage near Plymouth. Every summer our family would take our vacation at the cottage and visit Plymouth .
All my life I heard of my family's connection to
Govenor Bradford and the Mayflower. My grandfather was a big story teller.
Can you imagine a grandfather telling his 5 young grandchildren that he sailed the Mayflower with all the Pilgrims? At 71, I still chuckle.
@@SandraGarcia-ho4lb Your grandfather isn't the only one. My Dad used to tell us stories of how one of our ancestors owned almost all of Florida during the time of the American Revolution. As little kids we just swallowed such stories hook, line, lead weights et al. Later when I took history in high school it included a couple of days about Florida history and there were no mentions of any of our ancestors or anyone else owning a significant % of Florida so of course that is when I learned my Dad just liked to tell stories. He died while I was still in high school. Then years later I reconnected with his aunt who I hadn't seen since my early childhood and barely remembered. We embarked on some family history research. That is when I learned that I did indeed have some Spanish ancestors who did indeed live in Florida. Some deeper digging revealed that when in 1763 Spain handed Florida over to Britain and all the Spanish fled Florida for other parts of New Spain, mostly Cuba, except for three families and the wealthiest of them was my Spanish ancestor who was temporarily given control over about 2/3 of the private holdings of those refugees managing their interests while they were in Cuba. That constituted the majority of the Colony in the area around St. Augustine, roughly corresponding to about 20% of the current state of Florida. Turns out that ancestor conducted business with the British military governor serving as their primary supplier of food while simultaneously acting as a liaison between that military governor and the refugees in Cuba while simultaneously spying for the Americans who he was also supplying beef for (at the time Florida was the biggest producer of beef in north America and my ancestor had a monopoly on beef production in Florida). So while technically, my Dad was wrong, I found out that he had merely repeated a somewhat blurry version of the truth.
Perhaps your grandfather was telling a tongue in cheek story. But perhaps he was also telling a story with a certain amount of truth in it. My Dad told us hundreds of fantastical stories about our ancestors' exploits over the centuries and I have tracked down the origins of roughly half of those stories and have discovered that of those, every one began as something truthful that got distorted over the generations. I no longer discount oral history no matter how fantastic it seems. Another example was a claim made by my father that we were descended from royalty. I discovered about ten years ago we are descended from Charlemagne. Of course half of Europe and most of France and Germany are also descended from Charlemagne but that would explain that story and that's more than 30 generations ago.
My father was born on the Cape and we still have family there. Every summer we would make numerous trips down to visit cousins and aunts and uncles. I remember going to an "ancient cemetery" in Centerville and taking notes from head stones and there were three other people doing the same thing and then we were all taking notes on the same family grouping and that is when we all simultaneously realized we were all distant cousins on the same quest.
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Thank you for sharing your ancestry, it is so interesting to learn about our family tree. We wanted to learn more about my dad's side but, he passed away many years ago and with my grandparents from Spain, not much could be traced .
My uncle had told my dad many years ago, we could have legally changed our last name to
Tresguerrez, but to complicated.
My mom's dad traces back to the Mayflower and Govenor Bradford. My mom was born on Martha's Vineyard, where much of my grandmother's side resided.
Her name was actually spelled Smyth then changed to Smith .You have me very curious now to begin digging deeper into my heritage. Thank you
@@SandraGarcia-ho4lb I can tell you that Spanish records in Madrid are reputed to be quite good. While knowledge of the Spanish language would come in handy, if one has the resources one could have someone do the research. Some cousins of mine went to Spain to do research and I now know some of my Spanish ancestry going back to the late 1500's. It's enough to register as 0.2% of my 23andMe dna test results. If you haven't done so I recommend DNA testing to augment genealogy research. If you can have tests by different companies done as each gives a slightly different result. They interpret results differently and they have different data bases.
Tresguerrez is not a common Spanish name and so this is a good thing because now you don't have as many records to sift through. In my Spanish branch we have names like Perez and Sanchez which are very common and that means I have to figure out which Jose Sanchez I'm descended from and I mean which of thousands and it could be none of them. Smyth is better than Smith for research as well. The most common name in America is Jim Smith. There hundreds of thousands of them. There are 300 people in the U.S. with my exact first and last name so that helps and about 20 of them share my middle name. When people immigrate to the U.S. they need a friend or relative to sponsor them usually and that has been the case for over a century. Exceptions are made for refugees and those seeking political asylum but most need to have a contact in the U.S. So the thing to do would be to start there. Find out as much as you can about your Dad's and Grandparent's family and friends from the period of immigration. If your grandparents died in the United States then it is very likely their parent's names are on the death record. If they married in the United States then their parents, all four, will definitely be on the marriage record. Then look for someone sharing one of those last names who served as sponsor. That would likely be a family member, perhaps an aunt or uncle. I was able to do this with some of my Irish ancestors who came here 120 years ago and ended up using a succession of aunts/uncles of preceding generations to learn the names of ancestors who never came here all from American vital records. In 1903 my great grandfather came from Ireland. He married here. It showed his town in Ireland on the passenger list. Just not his parents. But I found his marriage certificate to my great grandmother and on it all four of their parents are listed as is required even today. That is how I came to know my great, great grandparents and at least one town they lived in. I also learned that my great grandparents lived a mile from each other in Ireland in two neighboring tiny villages and so it is very likely they knew each other before coming here. There is a romantic story in there someplace I have not yet recovered. Also on the immigration record for that great grandfather it says the name of a "friend" who lives here. I later checked the city directory for that town 1905 and it shows him still living at the address of that "friend." So I looked up the vital records and it shows that "friend" had married ten years before and had the same last name as my great grandfather's mother's maiden name and that showed they were likely sisters making her my great grandfather's aunt. Her parents, from the same town as my great grandfather, were listed on her marriage certificate. I found an Irish record that showed those parents having a child with the same name as the great, great grandfather above and from that I have my great, great, great grandfather without having to physically visit Ireland to obtain that. Then repeating the process I discovered even earlier records indicating that for two prior generations the siblings of some of my Irish ancestors who themselves never left Ireland had come here leaving records so I now have the names of four great, great, great, great grandparents and six fifth great grandparents including one whose brother fought in the American Revolution.
This kind of peripheral research technique is very useful in tracing families who had multiple generations of relatives who came here. A lot of Spanish people came to the United States when we beat Spain in the Spanish American War. Many of them sponsored future relatives who came later. Perhaps there are answers related to that in your family tree. In any case, my point is don't give up on discovering your Spanish roots even if there are differences in language, culture or a lack of resources. I've done most of my research on a $25 a month Ancestry dot com membership.
that is all such a heart ranching story for them to all endure! I also remember my mum telling me, that she remembers seeing Plymouth Sound in WWII being full of Sunderland flying boats! Sadly my mum passed away on the 27th September 2019 aged 95.
Thank you kindly :)
This is very interesting from the other side. My family in the last few years have been able to directly link our ancestors to those surviving members of the Mayflower. I’m Canadian, many of us came up the eastern US through Main and Connecticut. Landing in what is now Southwestern Ontario. It’s wild to think how many people can say the same…lol We definitely had large families. Most from 10 to 13 children.
Thanks why did they want to leave? Sorry I’ve just subscribed ! I don’t know 🤷♀️ we weren’t taught this when I was at school 🏫 here in England 🏴 bye from London 🌹
@@tabitha4135 As for leaving England, I can’t give you specific reasons why they left. I haven’t been able to find actual stories yet. What I think is like most that left, they were looking for a better life. Life was hard back then…crowded dirty cities…. Coming to the “new world” with promises of vast lands, clean air and bountiful hunting, clean water…..They obviously thought it was worth the long hard voyage. They weren’t ready for the harsh weather they would encounter. They had little shelter or knowledge of how to cope in the first few years. I find it interesting that the majority of my family ended up coming to Canada in the long run. There were a number of differing views how government should work in the new world. Here in Canada we also had many immigrants from France. So there was waring between French & English, as well as those of us English who wanted to continue being ruled by England and those who wanted a clean break away from the monarchy. This is how Canada ended up with two official languages and unique way of governing. Our Province of Quebec also follows Napoleonic laws that differ somewhat then the rest of Canada. Canada and the USA wared between each other leading to our borders as we know them today. My family fought for the North during the USA civil war and were divided in the war of 1812. I believe most of my family chose Canada because the were looking for a better place for all….where as the USA are more interested in being able to gain personal wealth. Hence why the USA is a capitalist country.
I love the coast of Cornwall.
If I had the means I would have a second vacation home somewhere on the coast.
It's just so beautiful.
Plymouth UK is in Devon... Cornwall is a bit more west...
I think the ships captains and crew were incredible. It’s just amazing anyone could survive such a journey. Coming into cape would not have been an easy thing. There are so many rocks 🪨
I LOVE YOUR CONTENT!!! You are so awesome. Thanks so much.
Lovely and interesting. Thank you for your time.
Love this video, Julie!! My husband's family came to America in 1630 (documented), from England. Through DNA, my family also came over pretty early too, but we haven't completely worked it all out yet. Really glad you were able to visit the site where the Mayflower left to go to America. I've never seen it before, so that was very exciting! I got to visit Plymouth Rock and the replica Mayflower in Massachusetts as a kid. Was really interesting. I've been a fan of 17th century architecture ever since. I live in Florida now, which is practically devoid of history, in comparison. I love videos about hist,so keep up the good work!
My 12x great grandfather was Elder William Brewster, through a matrilineal line. Thank you for doing this! I was really wondering and diagrams only show you so much.
I learned some new history today, about the pilgrims and the ships. So awesome thank you, because I either forgot or did not learn some of this.
I am descended from William Brewster. Hannah is correct; there were many other colonies established in "The New World", but most of them were short-lived. The 'Plymouth Colony" had the highest survival rate (such as it was), and lasted the longest. Thanks for another great episode, I am really enjoying them!
Actually, the Massachusetts Bay Colony had the highest survival rate and lasted far longer completely absorbing Plymouth Colony within a few decades. Plymouth Colony was more or less limited to present day Barnstable, Plymouth, Bristol counties and the islands whereas Massachusetts Bay Colony consisted of present day Norfolk, Sufolk, Middlesex and Essex Counties which evolved into the much larger greater Boston metropolitan area. by 1650, Massachusetts Bay had surpassed Plymouth colony by population. In fact Massachusetts Bay even had it's own colonies, in particular Harford. But by 1691 Plymouth Colony ceased to exist as a separate entity. Massachusetts continued as a colony for another 85 years.
What a great post. Thank you for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it
Such a great episode. The Plymouth company launching ships from 1620 on and the London company (Jamestown, VA) launching ships from 1606 on both have such great and terrifying history. Love it.
Shared history! What an impactful endeavour! These pilgrims would never have survived without the native population.
Being a Virginian, I need to point out that Jamestown was around a dozen years before the Pilgrims left England. In fact, Pocahontas went from being a child (about 10), got married, had a kid, traveled to England and died before the Pilgrims left England. The story of British America is more than the myths that we like to believe.
The Pilgrims originally intended to land in Northern Virginia and the Hudson River (today New York) was their intended destination. They had received good reports on this region while in the Netherlands.
The Mayflower was almost right on target, missing the Hudson River by just a few degrees. As they approached land, the crew spotted Cape Cod just as the sun rose on November 9, 1620. The Pilgrims decided to head south, to the mouth of the Hudson River in New York, where they intended to make their plantation. But the rough seas nearly shipwrecked the Mayflower and instead they decided to stay and explore Cape Cod rather than risk another journey south.
Before jamestown their was lost colony of Roanoke founded by my ancestor sir Walter Raleigh
@@tmj5girl and before that the Vikings called it Vineland. And before that the Native Americans ancestors traveled the Bering Straits area to the Americas following the animal herds for food. Before this there was microbes. 😆
My ancestor, Stephen Hopkins, was present for the first Thanksgiving in Virginia in 1610. He didn't like the conditions there and returned to England where he joined up with the pilgrims and celebrated their first thanksgiving 11 years later in 1621. He is the only person known to have been present for both events. You are correct though, our story is far more than the myths. The Thanksgiving we celebrate today is almost entirely derived from the one celebrated in Jamestown NOT the one in Plymouth which consisted of praying in the meeting house all day and eating beans and drinking beer and as far as inviting Indians over or playing games were concerned, that would have been considered sinful on a Sunday.
We went on field trips in Plymouth to see the May flower and it was a tiny ship. I also went to Plymouth plantation more than once. I can not imagine how hard it was.
I'm going to visit the exhibition in Plymouth I think. The curator said that the reconstruction of the Mayfair was done on a smaller scale to fit into the museum. The real ship would have been much larger.
Julie, thank you for the history lesson.... and seeing the descendants up on the wall of the Mayflower ship... most interesting indeed :-)
From this kiwi in Aotearoa New Zealand.
Amazing video with such awesome content. Thank you Julie! 😘🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
Glad I saw this!! So cool...It appears that I have Mayflower connections too, through Richard Warren and potentially Myles Standish, but still researching.
My favorite episode yet! Thanks for creating these!
Was there this year September 25 and 26th, wonderful place.
you should do an epsidode about the Revolutionary War from the British side.
If you are really interested in the actual facts around the war of independence there is an excellent course from yale university THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WITH JOANNE FREEMAN
She really gives a TRUE account
Skip the first lecture
Thank you s o much for making this video my lady. I am one of the many, many descendants of the pilgrims arriving on these shores. So I loved seeing where they left from. I’m a recent subscriber to your channel but I already love it so much! You are such a lovely person.
Thank you! And welcome to the channel!
Thank you for this beautiful video!
This looked like a fun trip for you. I was raised to love history, more like California history really. Thank you.
Love it! I grew up in east central Illinois. Schooled in the early 70s. I don’t recall the Speedwell being mentioned. Thank you for another interesting and informative episode!
Thank you for posting as this is an informative and enjoyable video. (That is a cute hat!)
One more enlightened video. I am a fanatic on history. I do enjoy seeing your Plymouth versus ours. I have wondered many times what the world would look like if it hadn't been for Henry V111 messing it all up. His insanity started the religious groups wishing for freedom. Martin's Hundred came to Virginia in 1593? They were killed by Native Americans. Then another group landed in Jamestown in 1607. They should have been the founders of America but Founding Fathers didn't want our history started by slave owners. So, Plymouth it is. Thanks for a history lesson for all of those who didn't listen in school. I guess Britain can use to hear the what & why's of our story. Happy Thanksgiving, from Philadelphia.
Please be aware that indigenous peoples lived in The America’s for thousands of years very successfully, prior to the Europeans “discovered” this land! I truly believe that history should teach whole truths - Not just what the
....strongest think! I appreciate the fact that this person at least mentions the true past! Peace everyone! 🇨🇦☮️🍗♥️
Enjoy your videos so very much.
Wow, as an American I don’t remember learning any of the back story of the people immigrating to the States. Absolutely fascinating yet.very sad how many people didn’t make it. Such brave people.
Thanks for sharing this video with us. I am a certified descent of 3 Mayflower passengers. Francis Cooke, Peter Brown and George Soul.
I'm descended from the Aldens, Mullens, Rogers, Brewsters, Howlands, Tilley's, Warrens, and Hopkins and others.
Amazing.one of the best episodes
I enjoyed seeing where they set sail from. It is a beautiful place. I am a descendant of Digory Priest on my paternal side. He died on the Mayflower. His wife and children came later on the Anne. He and his wife have thousands of descendants in the USA.
I also have Edward Fuller and his wife on my maternal side.
Such an interesting video Julie!!
Love your hat and dress.
Great history reminder
History is so important - and interesting! Most people don't realize that only 102 adults were on the actual Mayflower itself - and they definitely weren't all Pilgrims (Separatists).
If you look at the Mayflower's passenger logs, the 102 passengers on the ship included 37 members of the separatist Leiden congregation - who would go on to be known as the Pilgrims, plus 4 others. They travelled together with the non-separatist paying passengers. There were 74 men and 28 women - 18 were listed as servants, 13 of which were attached to separatist families, and then the crew members on board doing their jobs. There are thought to have been 31 children on the Mayflower, with one child being born during the voyage. Forty-one (41) of the passengers in total would comprise the group of people that became known as the Pilgrims. Unfortunately, 45 of the 102 passengers died in the first winter, after they arrived in Plymouth on November 11, 1620.
I have seen and heard many who claim they're a descendent of a Mayflower Pilgrim, yet the name they give as their relative was either, not listed as being on the Mayflower at all, or was actually on the ship for other reasons, or as an anti-separatists. Historians would later label the two groups as the "Saints" and the "Sinners". The Mayflower organization estimates that there are 30 million descendents of all those aboard the Mayflower.
For anyone interested, the full historical passenger log from the Mayflower documenting who was actually on the ship, and which of the passengers were Pilgrims, or the reason they were on the ship. The list is now available online, along witb a map documenting where each of the passengers was born. (Just Google: Mayflower 400 UK and Passenger List - YT won't let me post it here.)
In the end, we are all only responsible for the choices and good we do for the people and world around us during our time here on Earth, as we each strive to live happy, productive lives - and hopefully to be a kind, helping hand to those around us in need. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
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My 11th great grandfather John Robinson was on the Mayflower! I have documents proving it and also are related to three others on the Mayflower.
@@homerwiggins3965 My 17th Great Grandfather was Thomas Rodgers, who passed that first winter. His son survived and our family just found out about this. No shock that there are so many of us related to these brave people.
Actually they called themselves "Saints" and they called everyone else "Strangers" not "sinners." Also, there was no log. The book you are probably thinking of is William Bradford's "Of Plimoth Plantation"
@@nunyabiznez6381 My information is from the scholars at the official Mayflower Society, who are the definitive source regarding the Mayflower and its history - and have been intensively studying and archiving the records over the decades - so if you disagree with them you can take that up with them. There is a validated list/manifest of passengers and crew. You can see it on their site and the record of it at various museums.
@@suzannes5888 I do not dispute anything you just said. I said there was no log and 100% of the "list/manifest" you speak of comes from one single source and I stated it's name in my previous comment. 95% of everything we know about the pilgrims comes from Bradford. That said, no official list/manifest survived. Such a list/manifest would have stayed with the Mayflower and it's owners and the Mayflower disappeared from history not long after it returned to England. So no official ship's log or manifest or list or any other official document survived. Basically, Bradford's work was a personal journal he kept and he happened to be fairly thorough in his treatment of the subject which is why we now have a wealth of knowledge about the pilgrims. We have since tracked down a great deal of information in records and the writings of others but without Bradford's work we wouldn't have the slightest idea that those documents applied to the Mayflower passengers. As a scholar and a fourth generation member of The General Society Of Mayflower Descendants since 1976, I have been researching my 24 Mayflower ancestors for over fifty years and have contributed articles on the topic to the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. I also have in my personal possession a handful of documents written by actual Mayflower passengers (my ancestors) that have been passed down through the generations though none are nearly as enlightening as Bradford's work. If you want to truly learn about the Mayflower passengers I suggest obtaining a copy of "Of Plimoth Plantation" by William Bradford and read it and base all other research on that foundation of knowledge.
My husband’s mother is a descendent of William Brewster. Very interesting subject - thank you for sharing your visit!
I loved your outfit. Was it vintage? The sunset was spectacular!
I am a descendant of John Alden who came over on the Mayflower as crew and a barrel maker and became an important member of the community who served on the Governors Council for many years.
Hello cousin! I descend from John and Priscilla Alden, as well.
Love this episode of truth in history thank you.
Nice video…
I love history so that was the most amazing video that I saw I live in Texas and I didn’t know half of that information thank you for sharing please continue to share
My 9th great-grandfather, Edward Doty, sailed to the New World on the Mayflower and signed the Mayflower Compact. Unfortunately, he was well-known for his temper, a trait that seems to have been passed down to me--lol. It was a tough thing to overcome.
Hi SuzyQ, You might want to check the passenger manifest of the Mayflower. There was nobody on it with the name "Doty", although I did find someone with the listed name of: "Edward Doten, servant of Stephen Hopkins". There is no other last name starting with D-O-T. Although, Stephen Hopkins is listed as an non-Seperatist passenger, not a Pilgrim. The 37 Seperatist males, plus 4 others (including Doten) on the Mayflower signed the agreement while enroute. (The document didn't originally have a name, but was later named the "Mayflower Compact".)
In that first winter of 1620-21 forty-five (45) of the 102 passengers (plus some of the crew) died. Doten survived that winter.
You can find these records online at the "Mayflower Society" and the "Mayflower 400 UK" organization. My guess is that somebody maybe passsd a typo down (??) , but that's very cool if Doten is your ancestor! (Other than a couple of folks, many of the names people are listing on this thread are not on the passenger manifest at all.) Happy Almost Thanksgiving!
@@suzannes5888 Yes, the spellings are not always correct. I do a lot of genealogy and find that our ancestors names may be misspelled.
I was stuck on one of my Scottish ancestors until my cousin cleared it up. My cousin said he probably had a thick accent that was hard to understand and he attached himself to the Dutch Colony in what was New Amsterdam. There were the Dutch speaking people trying to understand a Scott! They wrote his name as Darm, when it was Durham.
I had ancestors on the Mayflower too. Digory Preist and Edward Fuller.
Edward Doty is also my ancestor! Doty is my grandmother's maiden name, and other relatives have helped me with tracing our family back to the Mayflower. It's been fun to research and learn about family history. I hope to one day visit the area in England where Edward was from.
I've been to Plymouth, MA, USA. This would be an interesting trip.
Isaac Allerton, my ninth Great Grandfather was among those on the Mayflower in 1620 with his Wife Faith Brewster. They began their voyage at Delft Haven in Rotterdam as they had left England years before and settled in Leiden to escape religious persecution. They traveled to Southampton and boarded Mayflower and Speedwell sailing to the New World. Speedwell was a leaky boat so they put in at Plymouth to see if repairs could be made. It was not possible so they sailed on in the Mayflower alone. I walked through the Western Gate of Southampton and from the dock at Delft Haven following my ancestor's path.
Hi their, cousin! My ancestor was Love Brewster. 👋🏼
Thank you so very much for filming this episode. I descend from thirteen individuals who made that famous passage. Covid forced us to cancel our travel plans for the 400th anniversary. Someday!
I too am descended from multiple passengers. Most of my father's family was from Cape Cod.
Really interesting video. Thanks Julie. 👍🏻🏴
You’re welcome 😊
thank you, julie this was very interesting...
Glad you enjoyed it!
My 10th and 11th great-grandparents sailed on the Mayflower.
Cool! Thanks for sharing! If you're interested in Plymouth, you should look into Jamestown, here in Virginia, or in Ronoake Colony in North Carolina
Thank you for interesting history lesson. So interesting as I will be moving to Plymouth in a few weeks time.
Fascinating!
We in the states are still on a journey for freedom. Proud and free we are to this day. Sometimes we move forward because we look backward! Onward we go!
This is a really interesting video. I've been to Plymouth many times, but not seen it from the perspective that Julie shows here. I do hope that the USA's education system has changed and that the history they teach children now recognises that there were people there for thousands of years before the Mayflower.
I am a Winslow descendant of passenger Edward Winslow. I recently read the nook by Rebecca Fraser entitled The Mayflower Generation. According to this account which included accounts of the pre and post voyage days, the group that boarded the ship did so at that time oh year because the man who agreed to sponsor the group did so at that time. This group were a group who were fleeing England due to religious persecution from King James. They had also spent time living in Leiden Holland working as wool workers. Interesting how these accounts have not been shared in traditional history books. My ancestor was the member who could read and write so he sent written accounts back to England. He wrote the account of the first Thanksgiving that is followed to this day.
The pilgrims were aiming to settle in Dutch territory around New York. There is a lot of mythmaking in that part of history, and I think people need to read into it without projecting the future on it. In Plymouth we've had to tackle the whole of it, including the bad bits, including religious fundamentalism and destruction of the natives. But it's nice to see my city.
Actually, the pilgrims officially had permission to settle in Virginia which they obtained prior to departing England. However, they never intended to go to Virginia but instead all along intended to settle in what is now New England and fairly close to where they ended up. Stephen Hopkins was shipwrecked in Bermuda about a decade earlier and eventually made his way to Jamestown and observed the conditions there were absolutely deplorable and so were a great many who were living there. Gosnold and Captain Jones were acquainted and Gosnold had told Captain Jones about Cape Cod and that area and how it might be a good place to settle. But when they got to the cape they discovered it was not appropriate for growing crops being extremely sandy so they sailed north in search of more fertile soil and found that in Plymouth. As for the Dutch territory around New York, I don't know where you heard that from as they had never had any intention of going their either. They left Holland due to the cultural differences and didn't want to raise a generation of children in an area they considered sinful. They wanted all along to create a theocratic enclave as far from outside influences as possible and that is exactly what they did. I suggest reading William Bradford's "Of Plimoth Plantation" as a good start.
My ancestor Thomas Lambe came across 10 years after the Mayflower, on the Arabella, with Winthrop’s men.
They actually started there journey and boarded from Southampton, the place of departure is marked by a monument, they stopped of at Plymouth to take in supplies, before starting the long journey.
My mothers family goes back to the mayflower as well. The first baby born in the new world . My husbands family goes back to the second voyage. I think many of us in America can trace a relative back to that fateful voyage. Curious enough, also distantly related to the Earl of Sandwich . It’s all that seven degrees of separation theory in action.
I’m related to Mary Chilton
Peregrine White was born in November 1620 aboard the Mayflower. Presumably that is your ancestor of which you speak. But he was only the first English baby born in Plymouth Colony not the first baby born in the new world. One of my ancestors was born in St. Augustine Florida in 1602 and isn't even the first. That distinction goes to Martín de Argüelles who was born there in 1566 and even they probably wasn't the first, simply the first known in that colony. New Spain was settled long before that and so there were many other European children born throughout Spanish America long before any of the Pilgrims were born in England. And please don't think I am disparaging the Mayflower passengers, 18 of my ancestors were among them including Stephen Hopkins who visited Jamestown in 1610.
How funny. I am actually related to Jon Alden from my grandmothers side of the family who was part of the Redfields.
Great Video thank you
So interesting!
I am a part of a great mayflower family johm Alden and Is Priscilla
so yeah nuts going on that boat
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This is so fascinating. So much history. And I love that so many people who are watching this are descended from the Mayflower passengers! Thank you! 🌸🌸
My father’s family came on the Mayflower