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The SECRET to a NTRP 4.5 Forehand (tennis lesson)

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  • Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
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    Our recent NTRP 4.0 student Sabina was having trouble dealing with pace on her forehand side, reverting to a tight, tentative swing when her opponent ramped up the intensity. Here's how we modified her swing path for more spin so she could return fast balls confidently and step towards her goal of being a 4.5 player...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 73

  • @EssentialTennis
    @EssentialTennis  2 роки тому +3

    If you'd like to spend time with me on the court send an email to: ian@essentialtennis.com. Thanks for watching 🙂

  • @sabinah
    @sabinah 2 роки тому +48

    This was huge improvement for me when I came back and really helped me loosen up my swing. A friend told me how she could see I took a full swing at every ball now. A lot more enjoyable to hit that way! I’ve also had a handful of competitive 4.5 match experiences since. Thank you! :-)

    • @K4R3N
      @K4R3N 2 роки тому +1

      Great work

    • @SirSnakeville
      @SirSnakeville 2 роки тому

      Are you from Denmark?

    • @sabinah
      @sabinah 2 роки тому +1

      @@SirSnakeville yes…

    • @SirSnakeville
      @SirSnakeville 2 роки тому

      @@sabinah jeg kunne også godt tænke mig at få noget træning fra Ian 😊

    • @sabinah
      @sabinah 2 роки тому +1

      @@SirSnakeville Det forstår jeg godt😀 Ian’s coaching har været helt essentiel for min tennis udvikling.

  • @PNWJenya
    @PNWJenya Рік тому +3

    Huge thanks to all students of this series of videos for putting themselves out there for our benefits! It is inspirational to see nearly instantaneous transformations. Huge thanks to the coaches for publishing these lessons! The incredibly keen observation, wisdom and a vast set of teaching tools of the coaches is a testament of how great their teachers are and the amount of passion that goes into it.

  • @yangyibin
    @yangyibin 2 роки тому +6

    Nice lesson! One thing I noticed is that she doesn't use any forward weight shift in her swing. It would seem so natural for her to step forward with her left foot and drive through the ball. This would enact her hips and hip turning power into the shot. The step forward also could serve as the trigger for the forward swing.

    • @cdahl
      @cdahl 2 роки тому +2

      I noticed that too. She uses more weight transfer in her old swing. My guess is she is so focused on the new swing that the hip motion is taking a backseat for now. I'm sure she'll be able to incorporate it in the future.

    • @AC-be5gu
      @AC-be5gu 2 місяці тому

      While those observations are correct how could it be the trigger if she’s doing it in the old pause swing path while still executing forward momentum.
      Like the instruction pointed to. One thing at a time. As that timing becomes intuitive and natural other concepts can follow. Weight transfer being one of them especially since her feet are active.

  • @cbockiii2514
    @cbockiii2514 2 місяці тому

    I've taken years of lessions, this is 1000% correct

  • @goldencalf5144
    @goldencalf5144 2 роки тому +1

    Nice work in diagnosing and fixing the problem.

  • @shauryakadian7754
    @shauryakadian7754 2 роки тому +5

    Can't get off the thought we will not be able to see this court after a couple of days 🥺😢
    great upload btw

  • @lungchan1729
    @lungchan1729 Місяць тому

    Ian, you are such good coach. Here all I see is those ball feeders coach where for one hour straight they just feed the ball.

  • @desertfan
    @desertfan 2 роки тому +2

    This is truly an amazing transformation to watch! I’ve been working on a similar issue with my forehand prep.

    • @rt61256125
      @rt61256125 3 дні тому

      How's it going ? Update please.

  • @gcs7817
    @gcs7817 2 роки тому +1

    I was just working on this sort of thing this morning monkeying around with technique and noticed that it felt like I had more time. Later I saw this video in my feed, so I look to incorporating more of the “hold in the coiled and ready to start the down swing” tomorrow. Thanks !

  • @NachoMontamat
    @NachoMontamat 2 роки тому +5

    Awesome lesson, Ian! My girlfriend has the exact same problem and I haven't been able to help her fix that... We are gonna give it a try tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks!

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  2 роки тому +1

      Hope this is a huge help! Let me know how it goes.

  • @mikec4834
    @mikec4834 9 місяців тому

    Awesome instruction! You hit the nail on the head from a previous video, videotaping is crucial. I took a golf lesson and after one change in the setup the before and after were night and day! Have to get someone to video my swing. And last but not least hit the subscribe button!

  • @wkozwkoz6255
    @wkozwkoz6255 2 роки тому +7

    she lets her left hand drop while hitting .. thing to correct

  • @bradleygroce8975
    @bradleygroce8975 Рік тому

    I think the phrase that you were looking for towards the end was "self perpetuating." Great video. Thanks.

  • @lindasoderquist4452
    @lindasoderquist4452 2 роки тому +3

    Powerful information. Nice to see that changing to pausing at the top with a unit turn starts a kinetic chain of all the right moves.

  • @andrewlloyd2705
    @andrewlloyd2705 2 роки тому

    I love this video, I really do but as ever trying implement it amidst a plethora of other technique issues like footwork and so on, in a single match situation is challenging to say the least. Today was the first real go and there were glimpses of the progress together with loads of failure but at least we’ve started and I so keen to keep trying. Wish I could practise every day. The forehand step by step video is also great. Determined to get there. Astroturf courts also make for a lower bounce but no excuses.

  • @sougata43
    @sougata43 Рік тому

    Hi Team, thanks for uploading this forehand head speed drill video, i am also facing the lack of headspeed like this Player

  • @MegaBensley
    @MegaBensley 11 місяців тому +1

    This might be a game changer for me, I'm gonna focus on it tomorrow when I hit with a friend. A coach made me start doing the unit turn this way (hands together, left on throat of racket) instead of my old way, but sometimes I feel totally stuck and have bad timing with it. I'll try and get some video too! Thanks so much!!! Is there something similar on the backhand side?

    • @rt61256125
      @rt61256125 3 дні тому +1

      How;s it going ? Update please.

    • @MegaBensley
      @MegaBensley 3 дні тому

      ​@rt61256125 this helped me a lot to not get stuck where I felt like I was prepared too early and had to wait, and/or helped me differentiate my body turning early and my feet continuing to be active, which helped a lot with spacing and not getting jammed up by being to close, again because a unit turn doesn't mean stop moving your feet.

    • @MegaBensley
      @MegaBensley 3 дні тому

      ​@@rt61256125as can be expected, I ended up taking it too far and making to big a unit turn, which lead to timing issues, i.e. a disconnect between my swing and the arrival of the ball. When I keep my u it turn to a minimum (or what feels like it) then I time everything better. Also I guess right handed, right eye dominant plays a role here in not turning too much in prep for the oncoming ball as it makes it difficult for me to gauge everything. So in short it helped a lot, I took it too far, and when I dialed it back a little it helped again a lot!

    • @rt61256125
      @rt61256125 3 дні тому

      @@MegaBensley Thanks:)

  • @TennisHacker
    @TennisHacker 2 роки тому

    It seems like the original "technical issue" identified was a compensation for a timing issue. So the "hitch" was her bodies way of increasing the percentages. After the technical adjustment, although things looked smoother, the timing problem was still present and there was a different compensation. She got more spin, but without addressing the timing, I'm not sure she be able to hit with power and spin. Obviously this is the initial lesson, so potentially with practice things might cleat up. But I'd be interested to see a follow up video in a few months to see how she's progressing.

  • @ahahm
    @ahahm 2 роки тому

    Impressive improvements on her forehand!!

  • @tomlieu2
    @tomlieu2 2 роки тому

    Could we also see this same concept on the backhand as well? Awesome information man.

  • @ReidVV
    @ReidVV 2 роки тому +5

    Good coaching cannot be replaced, of course, but the use of the video is such a plus when working to change a player's swing. The player can actually see what they are doing both right and wrong almost immediately and work to correct it. Think about using video for teaching someone how to hit a golf ball or baseball. Not using video to teach tennis is like trying to tie your own shoelaces with one arm tied behind your back.

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  2 роки тому +2

      Totally agree, James. I'll never teach tennis without it again.

  • @lorbatlo3298
    @lorbatlo3298 2 роки тому

    Thanks Ian as always!

  • @sportscastercanada
    @sportscastercanada 2 роки тому +2

    Timing is everything in life. 😉😆👍

  • @mikechan231
    @mikechan231 Місяць тому

    What’s amazing is how much looser the swing is.

  • @alifakher3990
    @alifakher3990 Рік тому +1

    You are the absolute goat

  • @dimasalang716
    @dimasalang716 2 роки тому +3

    Do not drop left arm when hitting the ball. Non hitting hand should be higher than the ball or hitting arm.

    • @dennisthegreek5336
      @dennisthegreek5336 2 роки тому +1

      That's exactly what I noticed too, before reading the comments. I think that left arm swings low AND earlier than it should be. But I think that after the lesson adjustments it started swinging obviously better, but there's still room for improvement. Left arm must start swinging almost when hitting hand starts from the power position and not so early.

    • @watcher687
      @watcher687 2 роки тому

      Ever seen a video of Rod Laver forehands??

  • @rsmolkin
    @rsmolkin 2 роки тому

    Do you know anyone doing this type of analysis and coaching in Florida? My dad was a pro coach, so I know all the fundamentals and sometimes can hit amazing shots, but I feel like there is something I'm doing that's just not quite right more often than not, and even if I record with my phone it's not sufficient, need multiple angles, etc. I'd love to go to a place that could analyze my shots and give me the proper corrections

  • @tennisone6376
    @tennisone6376 2 роки тому

    Hey Lady you are doing good job and well done keep practise

  • @masteryoda9259
    @masteryoda9259 2 роки тому

    17:15 is she letting go her index finger from the grip of the raquet just before hitting the ball?

  • @davidwatkins8016
    @davidwatkins8016 2 роки тому

    Brilliant lesson! Thanks. Interesting to see that what looked like timing issues initially on balls with pace resolve with a more continuous circular stroke. That is, how is it that the longer circular stroke seems to be better timed than the shorter linear stroke?

  • @jhogan1205
    @jhogan1205 2 роки тому +2

    A virtuous circle :)

  • @petel1201
    @petel1201 2 роки тому

    Does this technique work regardless of grip style?

  • @jorgeolopezdiaz1648
    @jorgeolopezdiaz1648 2 роки тому +1

    Is “Directly proportional correlation” the phrase you were looking for Ian? Also I’m guessing this is before the diadem sponsor 🤔

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  2 роки тому +1

      Ya, this session happened quite a few months ago.

  • @skeet0rz
    @skeet0rz Рік тому

    Was "snowball" the word you were looking for at the end there?
    Don't mind me, coming in a year later to comment. I watch what the algorithm tells me to watch.

  • @brianmi40
    @brianmi40 Рік тому

    Would love to hear her comment how this has changed her trajectory over the last year...

  • @wongjefx980
    @wongjefx980 2 роки тому

    my problem is timing... I hold the racket too long and accelerate the racket to make up for the timing on a fast return ball, and hit the ball long...

    • @Einar2008
      @Einar2008 2 роки тому +1

      You might find that your problem is more similar to Sabina than you think. If your ball is sailing long it generally means you're hitting very flat and not imparting enough topspin to bring the ball back down. It can't be stressed enough how important it is to video yourself if you're diagnosing a problem on your own. You never really know what you're doing unless you can see it. Even someone describing it to you will interpret themselves differently than you will.

  • @KenFlanagan
    @KenFlanagan 11 місяців тому

    Call it a hitch!!!

  • @henrylove514
    @henrylove514 Рік тому

    In most of her shots, the trunk rotation stops too early causing her to make contact with the right shoulder behind the left shoulder. Her stance is too narrow. Also, as others have said, she's not using her left arm.

  • @rbraxley
    @rbraxley 2 роки тому +1

    I'd guess the ad revenue is important, but the ads on this video make it unwatchable, they interrupt so often and run for so long. Unfortunate.

    • @stevenjm12
      @stevenjm12 2 роки тому

      Get adblock

    • @danielgeorge7471
      @danielgeorge7471 2 роки тому

      That's a UA-cam thing. But you can get UA-cam premium and never watch ads again!

  • @youngsuit
    @youngsuit 2 роки тому +2

    i think people won't be that interested in "getting a 4.5" forehand but perhaps if it's "going from level x to level y" then moreso

    • @EssentialTennis
      @EssentialTennis  2 роки тому +1

      Good to know what you think.

    • @youngsuit
      @youngsuit 2 роки тому

      @@EssentialTennis just sharing feedback. i do appreciate this more than something like "GET FEDERER'S FOREHAND GUARANTEED"

  • @systemx4
    @systemx4 2 роки тому

    The off arm is just dangling and not involved much in the rotation

  • @Dubinski2382
    @Dubinski2382 2 роки тому

    Ironically, I think Ian has the same hitch in his forehand.

  • @gardawg-jx2rz
    @gardawg-jx2rz 2 роки тому +1

    First

  • @peterpham2675
    @peterpham2675 2 роки тому +1

    Why u ignoring me? 🤔

  • @henrytoussant9385
    @henrytoussant9385 2 роки тому

    Snowball effect

  • @KenFlanagan
    @KenFlanagan 11 місяців тому

    Dude in all seriousness why is this lesson so dragged out. It is being delivered so slowly that the simple learning points are lost and it just causes confusion. Why don’t coaches scaffold and demonstrate for the student to copy and emulate. This is such simple mechanics but the way this is taught is just so indirect. A simple count would have solved this in about 30 seconds???! Time is money. Just so much talking. 🫤