Making A Power Feed For The Milling Machine | Cheaper And Better
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- G'day everyone,
It has been in the works for a while, but I can finally show you my power feed for the milling machine. I have wanted a power table feed for quite some time and I would have bought an off the shelf model, save for the fact that the Sieg brand one is very overpriced. I don't mind paying for the equipment that I use, but the sieg brand one really doesn't justify the price, considering what you get.
And it is for that reason why I decided to build a power table feed myself. The whole build centers around a geared DC motor with a worm gearbox. What I will do in this video is construct a rigid mount for the motor and a clutch mechanism to engage and disengage the power feed. Originally my plan was to use a design similar to Phil Vandelay, but I wanted to make the moving portion of the mechanism smaller, relying on only moving a clutch sleeve, rather than the whole motor assembly.
I hope you enjoy the video.
Mill Power Table
Mill Power Feed
#machining #diy #powerfeed
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
2:19 - Making The Drive Pin For The Leadscrew
2:56 - Machining the End and Cover Plate
5:50 - How To Mount The Motor And Gearbox
7:33 - Making The Clutch Mechanism
13:33 - Making The Selector Forks For The Clutch Sleeve
19:27 - First Test
20:08 - Making A Cover and Adding Limit Switches
23:26 - Final Test - Наука та технологія
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
2:19 - Making The Drive Pin For The Leadscrew
2:56 - Machining the End and Cover Plate
5:50 - How To Mount The Motor And Gearbox
7:33 - Making The Clutch Mechanism
13:33 - Making The Selector Forks For The Clutch Sleeve
19:27 - First Test
20:08 - Making A Cover and Adding Limit Switches
23:26 - Final Test
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You know you're early to watch a video when there are 0 comments about his use of a hacksaw or any urging him to buy a bandsaw 😂😂😂
yeah.But i think a batterie powerd bandsaw would be a good fit.He can make a mounting plate to put the band saw in and the mounting plate in to the vise .Or he gets him self 90Degree tool holder and puts a saw blade in and uses the mill.
@bosanaz2010 tbh, I think he does it more to troll people as much as anything. He's happy doing things the way he does :)
Buts its the one constant of Artisan Makes content: it'll have a hacksaw cutting a stupidly large piece of metal, and there'll be comments about getting a bandsaw!
Or just use an angle grinder, he probably has one lying around.
Edit from later on in the video: he actually has an angle grinder!
@@hk74654 problem with anglegrinder is cutting tool steels will harden them sometimes....i watch him for a long time.I know the Hacksaw is his signiture...but as i toolmaker i know how much pain it takes to cut big stuff with it
Rather, he should build one
I love how your little projects build on each other. Keep up the great work.
I'm pretty sure that is the point of hobby machining. Build a tool that builds a tool that builds a tool.
He is slowly building his own equipment that he needs for the next project. I dig it.
I like that there is a narrative to the video's and the work involved too.
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I'm an engineer who has worked almost 10 years with gearboxes for trucks with focus on gear manouvering I think you made a really nice design. Good work!
Thankyou that's very kind.
Good work!
Hello!
Nice project
For the limit switches it would be a good idea to put a diode in parallel on each, so that the motor can only run into the opposite direction when the switch is opened. If you don't do this you have to move the table back by hand each time you run into them (which actually isn't a big problem in your design, but would be if you didn't have a clutch).
I thought about that, but I'm wondering if the limit switches are only in series with the selector. So the limit would only be on the way he's moving leaving the other side free. But I think maybe this diode idea of yours is better
Just read the comments and a lot of people had the same idea as mine. Yours is definitely unique though
@@MOOBBreezy hmmm, that also makes sense, haven't even thought about that. When I designed something like that I connected both wires for each direction pretty shortly after the direction switch.
Very nice build. I would rather not have the knob protruding above the plane of the table. Maybe you never have problems with that but I have sometimes had long objects directly on the table which would then be in conflict with the knob.
I also agree that hobby machining is all about making stuff and having fun, and not necessarily 'always' being cheaper.
I love the arcade racing vibe of that control arm. The click and the obvious tactile feedback.
Dude, I watch a ton of machining channels, and you demonstrate some wild techniques that I've never seen on any other channel. 14:30 perfect example. It's really really cool
Necessity is the mother of invention
This is cool. An upgrade you could do is have a rail under the table so you can set custom points for the limit switches, and have it auto-reverse when a limit is hit.
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Literally let out an "oofftt" of satisfaction watching the keyed bore going onto the key after broaching.
I am a hobby woodworker, doing 95% of my work using hand tools. Watching you hacksaw is driving me crazy. No, I don't recommend you buy a bandsaw or power hacksaw (at least, not if you don't have the spare cash).
But I STRONGLY recommend firming up the bench, so the work piece is good and stable. This makes a tremendous difference to sawing (and filing, come to that).
Some diagonal bracing, or (even stronger) fitting a plywood panel to one or more of the faces is cheap and easy to do.
This is a good solution. I did the same one year ago at an old lathe for the leadscrew and it works in the same way. But your arrangment looks much better than mine, so I will improve my design.
I appreciate the electrical elegance of the 3 way switch; reverse-off-forward. But if the speed is non zero, it would be really easy to overshoot the centre (off) position and instead of stopping the feed, just change the direction, which might be catastrophic.
In this instance, I would prefer 2 switches. One a simple (and bigger?) on-off, and the other a forward/reverse.
Its seems to be a 2 switch design one for direction and a seperate knob for controlling speed. A 3 way switch with good detents is gonna be hard to miss the off position and skip to the other direction and if youre really scared of that happening just bottom the feedrate knob to zero first.
@@Schmetty87 Yeah - under well considered, non panic scenarios it's fine.
I was thinking more of the "it's going to crash in 1/2 a second" scenario.
A small tip for sourcing some items for very low prices: go to a local metal scrapyard to find stuff. I acquired 2 of those geared motors for something like $10 and they came out of junked garage door openers. They both work and one even has a clutch to disengage the gears. And yes, they both work, I tested them after I got home. 😀
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Automobile window or seat gearmotors also excellent for this kind of application !
If that knob is a potentiometer, you could add a "rapid" switch by having a SPDT momentary switch apply a fixed resistance (which corresponds to your rapid speed) to the appropriate pin on the board while disconnecting the pot when pressed. Release the button and the pot is connected back and you continue at your dialed in feed rate. It would be a simple mod, but would add a lot of useability for the operator (i.e. you)
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Now I'm sure 90% of hobby Machines that watch you channel, and others, have similar setups to yours.
It's nice to see someone on YT truly show the world what can be done with these setups.
Closing. I enjoy watching your builds. But, God dammit, it's time for a Band-Saw so you can cut your stock. Even if it's just one of those hand held units.
None the Less. Thanks for the Vid.
Antone should be elated to get this project done!!! Nice design, implementation and thought process overall all the way through
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It is best practice to mount limit switches in a way that the machine cannot crash them.
I've seen alot of different ideas for power feeds. This is definitely one of the better ones. Nice work and some really precise machining.
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I have seen people use "Allen Drives" & matching "Long Series" Sockets, as Drives.
Simple design, well engineered ,
Nice job 👏👏
Nice work! I made a z axis lift for my mill using similar motor. Diode across
switch leads allows it to stop and reverse without manually moving the feed.
I would also suggest adjustable hard stops to protect the limit switches when operating the feed manually. Just a bolt with a jamb nut next to the switch would work.
Great job!!! I love how all your small builds build off each other. You make one thing just to make another to make something else. It's always an amazing adventure watching you work. Until next week. Good day!
Amazing work mate!! Love to see you improving your tools and your videos, funny and smart af. Cheers
Great job and clever design. Thank you for sharing your great work, well done.
I second the diode comment. I've made machines for opening and closing French garage doors, casement windows, and other kinds of machines like that. You'll need to use diodes that can handle the current though
Other wise they may pop, which may be great on certain holidays, but only if the pop is good enough.
If you wire the limit switches in series with the direction switch you can have them lockout only one direction. Then if you hit a limit you can still back the motor off in the opposite direction instead of rendering it entirely powered down.
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Brilliant work Sir, thank you for sharing your time with us.
The thing that continues to blowy mind is in the blacksmith frame of mind...
Need a tool - make a tool.
And you always have the foresight to do that and share it with the world!
Thank you for what, and more importantly, how you do it.
Stay awesome my UA-cam friend!
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Thank you for the double entendres, I was really enjoying the play on words.
I really admire the good stuff you can turn out with what are basically hobby machines, it inspires me to want to have a go.
Wish i could like the video twice. Awesome man. I also cant wait to see some projects combining machining and 3d printing!
If you really want to be fancy, maybe you can hook your DRO up to a micro-controller that controls the power feed? Perfect velocity settings, automatic zeroing/repetition, etc.
I love using those motors and gearboxes. Any autoparts store has windshield Wiper motors (what these are) and they're super inexpensive. I've used them on a ton of different projects
Brilliant project
excellent stuff, love to see your progress/work. Take care, from Canada!
Drat, another home workshop project you've beaten me to!
A staggering amount of work but it turned out fantastic! Once again you amaze me.
Very funny intro, made me chuckle. Love the videos and the build up to each project from the last.. awesome stuff mate!
Simply outstanding!💜👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
I've been looking forward to your video all weekend (long weekend here in the states)! Happy to see its powerfeed for the mill since I'll be doing a similar project as soon as I get mine :)
Best one yet. Super fresh, super nice...
Excellent video. It's great to see the press in action.
love your videos! also the craziest part of this entire channel to me is that you hand cut your stock. kudos!
I did indeed enjoy your video and was quite impressed with your machining skills. Bill from Colorado
Some good machining here. The splines were very interesting. I am watching this one again.
Once again your trouble-shooting skills shine through! Awesome results as well.
Your way ahead of the game. Keep it up.
Absolutely brilliant 👍
Your skills have been growing exponentially. It's cool to watch.
Gday, the spline setup works well and with the detents is a positive engagement, top job mate, cheers
This was a great project! You're work is improving with every video
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Exeptionally good job. TOP.👍
super travail/ good job
Great work mate!
Nice project.. had to comment on you using up the elbow grease with the hacksaw. 😅
superb! really enjoyable
Congratulation, another great project and another relaxing video. You make me feel that complicated jobs are so easy to do :)❤
Cheers, any job can be tacked with enough time and cups of tea :)
Great Job well done. And yes you are right Making something is far more satisfying :)
Excellent idea
You really could get a job in tool room somewhere. Nice stuff your doing here and just keep challenging your self we all love the projects.
Cheers. Best to keep all this stuff as a hobby though.
Very impressed, always look forward to seeing your videos, your making good use of the fly press! From Coventry in UK 🇬🇧.
The cost of ready made vs DIY makes this build a no brainer and if you ever decide to go CNC you could adapt the mounting plate to steppers.
Congratulations on achieving 100K 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Very interesting and very smart thinking thank you.
Phenomenal! =) Loved it!!!
Get yourself 4 cheap V-blocks for the bottom die on your bending jig. They are very hard, and precise; and have 2 bevel widths. Make a simple holder for them that fixes to your flypress table, and it will be easy to set up. Make sure your V-blocks are 'matched' ( mine were .5mm difference in height for my mini hydraulic press, but they work). Your work is excellent and well presented!
All the tools and projects made to get to this one 😍
That's an awesome design and great skills in producing the setup. 👍👍👍
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Perfect job 🤟🚀
Very nice project.
Nice build very well executed.
Maybe a bicycle hub engine in direct drive could also be used. Or build your own three phase motor with laminated silicon steel and some permanent magnets.
Simple hub motor drives are cheap and then high speed travels are possible.
Also consider "overclocking" the winder motor in your design using a 12V motor.
A friction clutch by engaging the motor axially could eliminate some complicated parts.
Awesome job!! I'd bet you would be dangerous if you had a band saw!!😂
Super nice work mate. Heaps better than the bargain power feed I have on my mill.
Yes!......I did enjoy watching this build, I enjoy all of your vidz. I think they are brilliant.
Do you think that you will ever build your own Metal cutting bandsaw 🤔
Nice work!
nice job !!!
i have the same mill and always wanted to do this
Pretty innovative solution. I have in mind a similar project for a quill feed on a Rong Fu 45 clone.
Some good solutions here 👏👏
Robert
It looks amazing except I would replace the two cap heads on top that hold on the cover plate with button heads. Cap heads are so tall.
Nice job one suggestion wire a push button override on the spped control for rappid movement of the table
Outstanding
exceptional build. love it...i did a down and drity version of this on one of my round column mills...your fit and finish is spot on.... great design...
Excellent work
Thankyou, glad you enjoyed it
Pretty awesome
Yes the puns! 😂❤❤❤ thank you!! I love your videos
nice job !
cheers ben.
Great work my friend.
Thank you, Cheers
Nice one !!
Gotta love splines!
I love that bolt action rifle click for the spline clutch,
watching with a tea sitting at my lathe :D wondering what i can make for no reason
I have a drawing for a power feed project for my mill. I have a couple of problems with Power feeds that cut off use of the hand wheel on one side. I have a PM727 mill and it sits on a stand with partially recessed tables hung of the walls on both sides of the mill. This lets me catch the bulk of the chips before they hit the floor and lets me still get mostly on both sides to see my work. The arrangement means that the DRO screen and y axis handle is on the opposite side of your mill. The end result is that 80 percent of my controls need to be run from the left hand side of the machine so I really want to preserve the hand wheel on the power feed side. So I’ll absolutely be using your spline technique for this project.
Life without an X-axis power feed would suck. I even got a power feed for my Z-axis, that is wonderful and my shoulder loves it.
Excellent job
Lot of satisfaction from making things and not buying it
I had the lock pins on the draws on my 4wd sliding draws in the back brake (only die cast) so I made new ones on my mill, could have bought new ones very cheap but had the satisfaction of making them myself..
Once again great video 👍👍👍
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Glad to hear it, nothing more satisfying. I had to make a few parts in the workshop for my fathers Toyota troop carrier. Nothing better than seeing a part you made yourself in it.
ive used windscreen wiper motors sourced from the scrap yard. 12v power supply is easier to come by than 24v
واقعا استادکار ماهر و قابل احترامی هستید❤❤
Nice job mate I just spent every weekend for about the past two months fitting a power feed to the z axis on my mill and I bought the dedicated and expensive align unit for the job the problem was the mill was never designed to have a Z axis power feed so much of the kit couldn't be used save for the unit itself but it's not about the destination with what we do it's always just about the journey huh. Always enjoy your vids you've given me a few ideas for some things to build a screw press is definitely on the list though space is not my friend look forward to seeing your next project
Hacksaw gang is here and we appreciate your videos! ❤
It all comes together. Builds a 3 piece tap set to build a fly press to cut internal splines for a spline shaft and coupler to build an auto-feed and attach it to the mill.
Yeah effectively. Took a whole year to do all. Cheers
That looks faaar nices than my v1 small stepper motor, 3D-print/wood block combination I've been using thus far!