2021 Moomba Makai Surf Review: A $200k Surf Wave on a $100k Surf Boat
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2020
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The 2021 Moomba Makai is a great boat, with a great price when comparing to other wakesurf boats on the market. It has the size and room of the big 24-25 foot boats, a Surf wave that is world class, and a price that won't cause a divorce. This boat needs to be on the top of your list if you are looking for a great Surf Boat.
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nice review. now I'm stoked. my 2021 Mondo gets built next week!
One more vote for setting up a Max. I have a 2020 with 4000lbs water and 1500 lbs lead. The wave is good but I still feel like there is room to make it better. Keep the videos coming. They are awesome.
I love everything that wake9 puts out. Great work and Thank you!
Glad you enjoy it!
I recognize that part of norris lake. Bubba brews restaurant where you launched is such a good restaurant.
We are looking to Order a 2021 Makai and your videos are a HUGE confidence builder. Thank you!
Great to hear!
Excellent!!!!!!! As always.
The dual actuator on flow 3 plates clean up all that white wash on top, it’s epic along with auto plates
Love your videos!
Any advice for the Moomba Helix? I have the 2020 Helix and I am struggling to find the optimal configuration with just stock ballast.
I rode in one of those years ago, and it was ok, I don't remember a great wave on that one, but talk to Kyle at California Marine Sports. He told me he was able to later get a better wave with that boat.
Great video very detailed. Skier's Choice is a great company to work with. From all of us at Wakemakers.. we'll see you on the water.
Thank you
Great data in the video! For wakeboarding and wakesurfing, what prop is recommended out of the choices that Moomba provides for the Makai? 15.5x15,16.5, or 18?
I will have to find out, but for the last few years, I have not had to change any props, skiers choice has put on the right prop every time.
I have loved watching and learning from all of your videos. We recently purchased the 2022 Moomba Makai we added about a 1000 pounds of lead. We proportioned them throughout the boat. Boat has a pretty decent was just trying to improve on it. I see you suggest at least 1500 pounds of lead. I just ordered another 700 pounds of lead where would recommend I put the additional lead. We have had no success with auto-wake but we have had some success manually setting it up. For regular and goofy we fill both rear bags 100% front bag 85% wake plate between 0-30 we have 1000 pounds of lead spread out around the boat mentioned above. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Have you watched our makai review, and then the wakesurf science video? they are very detailed.
Robert do you know how the flow 3.0 system works? Is it supposed to deploy anytime the surf tab is down or is it automatic based off of boat weight/displacement/draft?
It is automatic based on displacement. I think I mention in video, but it may be a bit confusing.
Love your videos and info!! Question, I noticed you said that the SL has a softer wave than the SE or SA. Why might that be? I had a 2018 SA 550 last year and loved it. Upgraded to a 2019 SL 550 and noticed a major difference in the wave, longer and much more push. I’ve never paid much attention to the firmness. Is there a way to make the wave on the SL more firm?
I really don't know exactly what makes one wave firmer than another, but the SL is NO slouch, but it is slightly softer. If you want to feel what I mean by firmer, put your hand in the water at a speed of like 11.2, and then go to 11.6 and put your hand in the water, THAT is firmer. So you an make it firmer by speeding up. Best airs are going to be at the fastest speed you can take. But the SA/SE are a bit firmer IMO at the same speed, than the SL.
wake9.com gotcha that makes more sense. Another question for ya. Out of all three the SA,SL, and SE which do your prefer and why? To me the SL has been much better than my past SA but I pulled next to an SE at the gas station the other day and was shocked how much bigger and deeper it was than my SL side by side had me thinking “water displacement” like you always say. I wonder if it really does surf that much better.
Great video! what engine was in your test boat and would you recommend.
Doug Harder the 400, worked great.
First off thanks for your videos, we purchased a 2021 MOOMBA max end of summer 2021. Will you be doing any testing on a Max? I was told by sales man that they did not prefer auto wake and to just fill it up with ballast. I’m excited to get out and start playing with auto wake to see if I can refine my wave. Thanks!
I think we are, not on the calendar yet, but that is the plan.
Really awesome video. Have you guys ever tried to see how good you can get a surf wave off a $40k heyday wake boat? I can't find any in depth reviews on them but trying to get a wake surfing boat on a budget of a worker college kid.
So you can check our last polar bear event video, we did have a heyday there and there is good video of the wave and stuff.
Guess I'm not understanding the post. Subtle text in video says 2019 Moomba Makai but title of video is 2021 Moomba Makai. Great waves though!
What brand of board is RJ surfing?
Thank you Wake 9. I am a big fan.
Will you compare Malibu MKZ24 and a Supra SR 550?
RJ is riding a Chaos Custom Wakesurf board. Its a version of the Team Pro.
wake9.com thank you
We are running a 2021 Max. Always looking for good tweaks to work the wave, especially cleaning up the top. I noticed you have the wakeplate at 25. We normally run it at 10-15. What's your thoughts on having it at 25 vs. a lower setting? BTW, we have 4000lbs stocks and 1200 lead added.
Here's our channel with examples of our wave. I'd love your opinion ua-cam.com/channels/4F3NmHVASrV-WJQ1PWbNUg.htmlfeatured
We never have it more than 25. I would say it’s usually at zero
Just picked up my 2021 kaiyen with the flow 3.0 system. If all the ballast are 100 percent full, how do you get enough roll on the goofy side without draining some port side ballast? Auto wake is draining my port side quite a bit to get the 4-5 degree roll....
just engaging the surf system will roll the boat over a bit, more on goofy and less on regular. Use a bit of lead to help you set the boat up so that when you turn on goofy, you are at the right roll, and then when you switch to regular, you will probably be about -1 roll, perfect for regular.
wake9.com Thank you sir! Looking forward to your new 2021 kaiyen video!
2020 makai here with flow 3 upgraded bags is there any difference between 2020 and 2021? i havent seen any info to make me think there is such as hull changes.
also with the upgraded bags how much lead would you suggest? have 250 in the bow as of now and the wave is pretty dang good always trying to improve though
I do not think there are any hull changes. Watch my video on where to put the lead, it will help you know where to put it, it is different depending on where people sit and such.
Where would you put the extra 1000 lbs of lead in the Makai? 100 in each corner and the rest in the middle?
@wake9 any update on this?!?
Great information as usual!! Any plans for a video like this for the Max?
Its not in the works at the moment, but I am not against it, we have a couple more moombas to do before that.
I agree.. help us dial in the max!
Thanks for the video
wake9.com want to meet halfway at Smith Lake, AL lol? I have a Max and Wakemakers upgrade but have trouble really consistently squeezing every bit out of the settings. I watch all your vids and they do help but you’re a master at this by now lol I’m guessing COVID is going to put a damper on polar bear?
@@haknslash yeah, I don't think we can do polar bear, I need to announce. I thought everything would be freed up by now, but its gotten crazier. What year max do you have?
wake9.com yea understandable about Polar Bear but not surprised. Our COVID numbers are dropping here in Alabama finally but it sure does suck wearing this hot mask!!! We have a 2019 Max. I've got lots of vids on my channel of it along the process. Slowly but surely dialing in the wave but the big girl needs lots of ballast to get a big wave especially if it's a light crew like we normally have (usually just my wife and our10 year old daughter when I'm surfing). Was thinking of adding about 500 lbs of lead putting 100 lbs under the bag in the rear lockers, 100 lbs under each helm storage and 100 lbs in the very front of the bow.
How would you compare the moomba vs a tige? Seems like the TAPS3 and. Flow systems are very similar. I’m comparing a new makai vs a used rzx3.
The flow 3 is def a step above. Also, the ballast systems inside the moomba/supras are superior, better engineering.
@@wake9tv Thank you for your response!!! Without adding lead with the makai still give enough push to surf or is the lead critical??
@@josephfleming6384 Its still good, but the makai is a light boat. As an example, the Supra SE is about the same size and weighs over 1000 lbs more. IMO, you need the lead for the best wave.
I have a 2021 makai with the flow 3.. I am
Kinda confused by what you are saying I should have a side surf tab at. Should I have that set to 100? That would be fully deployed correct? Or should it be set to 70? Thank you.
The default, I believe it is 60 on one side and 70 on the other. You should not go more or less than that in my experience.
When I select my surf side the tab automatically deploys to 100. Not 70
@@thomasstoner622 you need to set it back to default, 100 will not make a good wave IMO. I think default is 70/60, where 70 is the setting for the port plate that makes the goofy wave. You can test that and see your results.
Always wondered who makes mooba ? Old school wakeboarder , is it supra? Just a asking ?
Skiers Choice makes Supra and Moomba.
So if the added tab adds yaw, Does that mean that it turns the boat more in a straight line or less?
This video I did, does a better job of explaining YAW. ua-cam.com/video/AD1wEPrSWuw/v-deo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE I think MOJO review also has some good detail on that with the flow 3 setup.
U should make a review of the 2021 max if u get the chance
I have the moomba kaiyen and moomba mondo coming shortly, I will see what I can do!
wake9.com no rush, just I think u should see how much of a beast it is for the price
Where do you get your music from? It's great!
So the last few videos, I have been using musicbed.com, and I really like it, I am able to find stuff that works for my style.
@@wake9tv Thanks for letting me know!!
Do you know anything about the new ATX boats?
A bit, but not much. I know they are from Tige and based on Tige hulls.
Any thoughts on the Moomba Kaiyen?
yep: ua-cam.com/video/GgUqDAMfmhI/v-deo.html
Is the stock 400hp enough for surfing w a group or do you really need the 450?
Well 400 is a little but I guarantee you our 2021 Malibu 25 lsv is way taller. 607hp LT4 engine is probably the best but if your budget friendly then just go for the 400hp
If you are going to wakeboard, the 400 is probably not enough, but just wakesurfing it is great, no issue.
I don't understand how you are deploying the flow 3 settings.... I think the only way to do that is through autowake isn't it?
yes, you can't adjust that, I was using a special technique that allowed me to turn it off and on so you could see the difference. I actually had the head engineer in the boat at the time.
What boards are you and your wife riding? Do you ride the same speed as your kids. I’m a big guy and having a hard time getting off the rope. Getting a custom soul craft made. Just added lead and hoping that’s the ticket with your settings recommendations
I am riding a Chaos Ringer XXL, its a board you can order, and works great. My wife's is a custom made board from Soulcraft. Contact Nick from Chaos, he is very good at assessing what you need. A good wave with great push is also very helpful. chaossurfco.com/wakesurfboards/chaos-ringer-xl
@@wake9tv thanks! I have a custom sc on the way. I’ve heard good things bout the chaos. Been riding a Big Easy so far with only moderate success.
My buddy just got his P5 Doctor yesterday so looking forward to that 🤘
Thanks
Anyone selling one at a non inflated price?
What moomba would you say puts out the best wake?
probably the mojo or the makai.
@@wake9tv what about compared to the supreme zs232? I’m looking into either the makai or the supreme. Which one would you say is the better all around boat.
What lake is that?
I think that was Fort Loudon Lake.
Man I need a better job
What dont think those hippies who ride wakeboard can affort it
Basically copied off the 2020 Malibu