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What kills me is that HBO murdered all of their animated shows and then said "Look! Velma is the biggest animated show debut of all HBO time!" as if they didn't eliminate literally all of its competition
Infinity Train would have bested VELMA if they hadn't decided to throw the series into a black hole. Infinity Train was good and popular.
They could've renew a young justice season but decided to make this abomination
Biggest out of 5 launches regardless...they only had 5 original animations everything else is imported
@@Brutactical exactly I miss young justice so much and I’m sad we still don’t have another season
@@Brutactical That would have been so much better!
Cancel Velma, revive Young Justice and Infinity Train!
Remember: It's a good thing Scooby-Doo isn't actually in the show; because it means that he doesn't have to suffer the same horrible fate as the other characters.
Isnt there a rumour abput Scooby being a black girl in love with Shaggy
Just like the Daphne and Velma standalone movie lol
they'd make scooby dooby dooby doo into a g@y h3r01n @dd1ct hitman who doesn't talk rike ris.
Glad they saved him
Yeah good thing too or else scooby might be *HOT* lmfaoo
i’m just mostly disappointed in how none of the characters care for each other. the whole mystery gang were super close friends even though they weren’t “in the same social groups.” literally fred was the chad leader who had a hot girlfriend, but he also cared a lot for shaggy, who was just a chicken and a foodie and velma was smart but not arrogant. they all got along and solved mysteries together. this ain’t it.
This! She would literally solve all the mysteries but she wasn’t an arrogant b about it
this is the origin story...
@@victormponcec origin story of what? Sociopathic hateful assholes, IT DOESN’T EVEN HAVE SCOOBY DOO
@@victormponcec so when does the characters who weren't white go back to being white, get new/old personalities and a talking dog by the end of the show?
@@keyki9832 is an origin story of how these characters become friends and begin to travel solving misteries, it's a retelling, but keeping that core idea. Maybe they'll get the dog, maybe not, who knows.
"It's more like a fake show that would be in like a Family Guy cutaway gag" is probably THE most accurate description of Velma I've heard so far.
Family Guy has standards, low ones for sure, but standards non the less. "Velma" would be a fake show within a fake show in the cutaway gag.
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@@ravenouself4181lol nice
@@ravenouself4181 So... a cut-away in the South Park version of Family Guy?
There was a Family Guy cutaway gag where the Scooby Gang investigates an actual serial killer. And it still managed to keep the character's personalities somewhat intact.
Puss in Boots did a better representation of anxiety/panic attacks than Velma
right. u dont kiss someone when theyre having a panic attack. what perrito did at puss was the most wholesome thing i saw. i was ready to cry, the way he laid his head on puss bro
It’s kind of sad how accurate this is
Puss in Boots was wayyyy better than whatever this show is, the reason is Puss in Boots' director aren't critically online lmao
dont compare puss in boots to this piece of shit
That movie had no business being as good as it was
Velma is definitely inclusive.
It didn’t just turn away some people it turned away everyone.
this comment is severely underrated
Those that claim they want inclusivity, actually want authority not equality. Shame it took butchering a classic to make people realize it.
YES WE ALL COLLECTIVELY HATE IT ITS BEAUTIFUL
maybe that was the point
America hasn’t been this unified since December 8th 1941
@@jacksongibbs8998 So you sided with Jeannette Rankin?
The fact Daphne and Velma kissed to stop a panic attack has so much wrong with it.. and that's not even scratching the surface of the issues with this show
That's actually a surprisingly common trope for a first kiss in media!! Another example I can think of is Teen Wolf, where Stiles and Lydia kiss for the first time when Stiles has a panic attack. It's such a a harmful thing to promote but TV acts like it's romantic!!
From a story telling perspective the show has already wasted one of their biggest bullets.
The Velma - Daphne tension is something that fans of the show have speculated for years and they just forced it in the second episode with no reason or build up whatsoever.
They don't even know how to do woke romance right lmao
Yeah and after that they kept being hostile towards each other about it but then eventually became friends but friends that are inches away from being a couple and their is intentionally moments where they both blush or something.
Y'all that's so much worse than just this one issue omg I'm so glad the second episode was when I stopped. I only watched episode two to see if it got better. It did not
@@Viking_Raven wokoids don't know anything
Maybe the animators worked so hard on the hallucination scenes because they enjoyed velma's suffering?
This is the truth
Do you guys agree that if what happened in 2020 didn’t happen, Velma wouldn’t have gotten made?
@@uria3679 huh?
@@uria3679I mean the pandemic did send people spiraling because they were running out of things to watch... But yes, though it might have been made later on
@@uria3679no, it would've still been made. After all, those writers had to have that ketamime and horse medicine they've been hoarding at some point. It's a canon event unfortunately.
The issue is not that she is Indian, The issue is that she IS Mindy Kaling, and that's a huge issue, she is literally just self-inserting herself to be as rude and cynical as possible.
It’s weird she’s had a track record for self inserts and she admitted she had kinda sex assaulted a guy and threatened to fire her staff if anyone told she’s a bad person
And Mindy Kaling is herself crap.
I don't think she has ever met someone who has been to a Walmart
All of her weird media references are nonsensical, she brings up some obscure trope and then says “this always happens isn’t that funny??”
Could've had her original animated sitcom where the main character was drawn to look just like her or something -idfk-
This series doesn’t just hate animation, they hate teens. Most of these jokes have enormous „that’s how these stupid teens talk these days, right???“ energy.
"Teens will relate to these characters if we make them as cynical and toxic as possible!"
It’s giving “How you doing young fellas”
I couldnt agree more...with Velma.
It really is how they talk these days though
@@Ash_NuggTatoagreed, but at least we actually have funny jokes and not be obnoxious
The irony is that they're trying for Velma to be depicted as a fish out of water surrounded by negative stereotypes and fools, when she actually is the worst product of the environment she criticises. She is shallow, toxic, playing for advantage and hates anyone doing better than her. She is the worst individual in the show, and the fact Kaling celebrates this character shows how radioactive she is as a real person.
Ay yo, I’ve seen this comment on another video about Velma. Didn’t expect that
@@NicoPPSh That's how I know this user, he's a good commentator. Maybe you have problems with your original account and have decided to comment with another one.
@@Rembreiker_lychec9257 Thank you, the truth is true. I've been having problems lately with my original account.
@@Rembreiker_lychec9257 sorry if it sounded mean, I just wanted to point it out cause it’s a good point.
just my opinion, but velma in the show is not celebrated or even liked by anyone ( except for simp shaggy... and honestly that probably will not last when he and gigi get together.
Velma's negative traits in the show tend to over shadow her positive ones and she is an outcast at school and pretty much everywhere in the town. I am pretty sure there is going to be a serious "Reason you suck speech" given to velma some time in the near future, which will hopefully force her to have to become better.
Honestly the show is not great and most certainly not scooby doo, but if you see it as its own thing, it is decent enough. Its not Paradise PD or Chicago Party Aunt at least.
There's a line later in the series where a character says to Velma, disguised as a man, that 'There's something funny about you. Not laugh out loud funny but more thoughtful and well observed like a female driven comedy'.
Hearing that line made me think "Wow, if this show had a dick it'd be trying to blow itself".
Gives off the same energy as M. Night self inserting himself into Lady in the Water as a guy who writes just the most profound awesomest story ever.
This show tries to be feminist while being pretty misogynistic 😂 like some female comedians are laugh out loud comedians and some women find laugh out loud comedy funny, the show puts women as a monolith...
Cut to a year later when F***ING VIVZIEPOP would actually land a similar joke in F***ING HELLUVA BOSS and get a good laugh from people. Like, boy it's this easy to do it right yet Velma still couldn't do it 😂😂😂
Don't get me wrong, I do like Helluva Boss and honestly I still don't understand the Viv controversy. But oh my is the bar set low these days, probably because of Velma...
The show writers patting themselves on the back like that with a not even remotely subtle bit of dialogue is just insanely cringe
Velma: the only show that hates both the audience and itself at the same time
Painfully accurate
@@Ramsey276one the writers really hate the franchise
The truth spoken plainly
What's crazy is that the concept you described can be done right.
I dunno, Rick and Morty gets pretty close
I'm thrilled that nobody, from critic, to UA-camr, to audience member, has a positive opinion on this show. Has Mindy Kaling ever even watched an original episode or film?!
The show is alright 👍
@@trobbins7477 obvious troll pretending to like bad thing for the attention it draws from people insulting him
@@trobbins7477You never got attention from your parents, and it shows.
It's a dumb show, if you don't take it seriously, it's kinda entertaining, at least to me
@@SteamPaladin I genuinely think it's not bad. I think the jokes aren't funny most of the time
This show continues to amaze me with how it's managed to unite literally EVERYONE in hating it.
Republicans and Democrats finally united 😂
@@saiko_1Christians and Atheists, Muslims and Jews, blacks and whites, Indians and Pakistanis, Klansmen and Black Panthers, capitalists and commies, dogs and cats, lions and hyenas, can all come together in despising this travesty of “entertainment”.
Right! Because we didn’t ask for this at all!!!
Even the extreme woke knew this would make them look bad. Seeing Velma here must've been like looking into a mirror.
exactly, truly wonderful
"Look at how fluid this moment is."
The only thing worse than bad animation for a good show is good animation for a bad show. These talented people could have been doing something worth their time and talent.
As an animator, I appreciate you separating the art from the story.
I noticed her totally trying to be Daria, too, but Daria was self conscious, not berating.
The animators were really lazy with this. There’s multiple scenes with duplicate characters. Maybe they were rushed and had bad management
@@SunnyExMusic That's not lazy. It's literally a technique to save money (definitely a call from the higher ups). In the scenes where there is actual motion, the animation is smoother than butter, what are you talking about?
@@zirus5191 it’s most definitely lazy animation when there’s 3-4 different dupes in one scene. Like I said animators get overworked. I did a project like 4 years ago and I swear we were getting more shit than the VAs
Daria was at least aware of when she went too far too. And apologetic when it happened.
@@sarab1202 Exactly. Also. those characters may have been stock, but they weren't shrilly judgmental with every line.
It's clear that the writers either never watch the show or care about the characters. Like where was Velma's intelligence? Fred's leadership skills? Daphne's loyalty and shaggy's empathy? Instead, we got ripped off by the family guy, and Rick and Morty.
And Shaggy's hunger? And Scooby's... mere presence?!
@@jayo1212 Scooby knew the show's gonna be shit, so that's probably why he didn't appear in Velma
Velma couldn’t even compete with Rick and Morty in meta jokes
As a matter of fact, _Norville_ (Shaggy) was the smart one of the bunch here. Hell, pretty sure Velma's comment that he always texts her the answers to math homework was in Ep1...
@@MrAuthor3DS "Velma" managed to destroy everything about the characters. Since when did Velma have to get help from Shaggy for math homework?
the fact they purposely aged down the characters to then put them in all these sexual scenarios is..weird
Wait they were originally adults?
@@literallygrass1328I thought they were in their midteens !
@@andreasanchez1453 same
They didn’t age them down, they’ve always been teenagers. Plus it’s no different than every other show/ movie depicting teenagers in sexual scenarios, ex. Euphoria
They didn't age them down. They were always teenagers lol
Moment of silence for Alex for risking his sanity to watch this for us
i'm the one who liked youre comment fellow random person
@@vickymoon933 I’m the third to like yours fellow person
@@scottthesmartape9151 i am showing my grattitude by liking thus
Do you guys agree that if what happened in 2020 didn’t happen, Velma wouldn’t have gotten made?
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Remember folks, just because you're writing an unlikable character doesn't mean the audience is actually supposed to dislike them. If American Psycho can make a monster of a man and leave with a die hard fan base, Velma has no excuse.
to be fair, men just misinterpreted the point patrick bateman’s charecter and made him out to be some pussy magnet chad when in reality he was a pathetic loser
@@eatafartsandwich7872 well that's not quite what I'm getting at. Bateman is a pathetic unlikable loser, but no one now would say, "the movie was good but Batemans character ruined it for me." But for Velma one of the biggest complaints is that the intentionally unlikable characters are just genually unlikable and take away from the experience.
@@crusadercarl6269 i mean... he's definetly not a loser in the movie lol, he's a pathetic psychopath who's gradually letting the mask slip, but he's definetly not a loser socially. In his own mind he might be, but in world, he's a member of high-society, a wealthy socialite yuppy. He just hated it because everyone in that "world" is basically a clone of everyone else and nobody really cares, which is why he starts to kill, to be different.
@@crusadercarl6269 another is bojack horseman!!
Hell, look at the latest Puss in Boots movie. The character of Jack Horner is straight up just an unlikable, immoral, evil, irredemable character. And yet, most people agree they fucking loved when he was on screen.
As an animator, I appreciate that you gave animation the credit it deserves. Animation is HARD and takes a lot of practice and patience. Behind every animated show, there's a team of overworked, stressed, underpaid, and most of all, insanely talented people who deserve proper appreciation. So thank you for talking about that, Alex.
I feel so bad for those ppl bc they were forced to draw crap amazingly 😢
The art was so good. I love the style. It's so sad that all the potential was wasted
The animation is literally the only positive point to me.
I just hope this show won't be a dirt stain on their resume...
Is fair to say it's not good (as in i personallyfont like the art style), while also giving respect to artists?
@@akaInfamous totally. You can dislike the animation or the style. It's a matter of personal taste. I only mentioned the thing about animation because it's rare that someone gives credit to the people behind the product. In this case, the animators, sotryboard artists, comp artists, etc.
I love how Alex said he wouldn’t do cartoon reviews but Velma was so bad he just had to
Pretty sure TheCriticalDrinker is the same.
I mean he did one for Miraculous Ladybug becoz he changed his mind after the whole “Videos I will never do” thing
The fact that he said the animation is good hurt me physically bro, like literally Ben 10 Classic did a better job in the transformation sequence. Like wtf is he talking about!?
@@user-pt2el1tt1r imo i thought it was actually super smooth, and he has a point with how hard that would be to do
@@luci-fo9ug The animation normally is bland but when we get to some scenes such as the ones he pointed out, the animation is actually good, I just wondered why they didn't make the show that way instead of the "adult" cartoon way.
One of the most mean- spirited shows I’ve ever had the displeasure of watching, and the worst part is, it literally alienates EVERYONE
Didn’t alienate me. I love satire and that’s what this show is
@MaxOakland This is not satire😂 it was just garbage.
@@thtswutshesaid It's OK if you think it's garbage but the show is almost 100% satire
Mystery Inc was the "adult" version of Scoobie Doo. It took the characters to extremes, with Fred neurotically obsessed with traps for example, but it still stayed true to the overall vibe of the original show. I haven't seen Velma but from what you've shown, it looks like they threw out one of the key points of the show - that the characters were very different from each other but cared for one another and complimented each other's strengths. Scoobie Doo was the original Breakfast Club, with the addition of goofy ghosts. This version seems like it's a snark fest with an on-going competition for who can be the worst person. Mystery Inc was, "Let's have fun with the characters and plots" while Velma seems to be, "Let's show you how we're superior to you idiots who like this drek."
Mystery Inc Velma didn't feel that accurate, the way she was obsessed with shaggy and thinking Scooby was her competition, but at least they addressed that issue and Velma got character development, even with those flaws she was still better than this Velma.
@@Kaitosmic_2-17 I think the reason she thought of Scooby as her competition was because the writers were writing her as a lesbian that was still in the closet, so that was there to either build up tension or just to show why the relationship wouldn't work? (unfortunately the writers forgot that watching a relationship fail isn't all that fun)
What’s New Scooby Doo also had the gang actually be adults and professional mystery solvers for hire
In Mystery Inc. Fred is canonically Autistic! Velma is also canonicaly a lesbian. The creator said they made it as explicit as they could in the 2010's and confirmed it as canonical in an interview recently. Mystery Inc. will always be MY Scooby Doo❤️
Because it's an adaptation...do you know what that is? Creative liberties happen. Changes happen. It's definitely making fun of the people who dislike this show.
Canonically shaggy is supposed to be outrageously attractive. It’s one of the reasons the monsters chase him frequently
Babe what?? When did they say that 😂
Listen i always thought shaggy was hot day 1 😂 🥴
Shaggy attracts monsters lol
Canonically, Shaggy hangs dong and plays slap bass
Wait seriously??
The worst part for me is how the characters personalities are just nothing like their old selves and genuinely could’ve existed as their own entities. I agree that there HAVE been different renditions in this aspect but they never just became completely new people like they have in Velma.
Daphne- Daphne is characterized as the popular pretty girl who is well meaning and nice, but can be prone to accidents and clumsiness. She’s intuitive, sociable, and a people person, and she learns to use these traits to her advantage to get the Scooby Gang out of tough situations. In Velma she’s just another mean popular girl stereotype. Shes vapid and snarky and judgemental and for what?? She has never ever shown those traits. And also shes a drug dealer all of the sudden? Like why? In the original, even though she wasn’t the smartest member of the group and often got herself captured, Daphne was still well meaning and tried her best. She was a good representation of the idea that just because you arent the best at something, it doesnt mean you should stop doing it if you love it. Also Daphne was the one with rich parents that contributed to her being kind of oblivious and danger proned, but that trait is amplified by 1000 and given to Fred simply because they wanted a white man scape goat. One final note. In Velma, Fred is the one who is rich beyond reason. While he has been depicted as affluent/upper class before, I think it is Daphne to whom an affluent background was most important to her character. I think she is the only one who has consistently been written as a rich girl, so taking that away took a lot of her established background as well.
Fred was the leader-adjacent figure of the group and was a bit of a chad stereotype, yes, but he was still a nice person and a level-headed figure to the group. He was a goofy snd more subdued member of the gang that balanced everybody else’s more eccentric personalities. And despite his at times cluelessness, he was far from an idiot. In most iterations of Scooby Doo, Fred has been depicted with an understanding of college level physics and engineering, and its a shame that doesnt get more attention. In Velma, I dont even have to explain it. Hes a fucking mess and man baby for absolutely no reason. And can I just say Fred has never given a hint of being obsessed with being an Alpha male. He has always been a character that was comfortable in his skin and never tried to overcompensate like they make him do in the new adaptation.
Shaggy- Shaggy’s a stoner without the weed in practically every iteration of Scooby Doo. He’s just an anxious coward who wants to eat food and chill with his best friends. Aka, definitely NOT the pushover mess who knows about geodes and does dangerous things for the sake of Velma. Nor is he such a goody two shoes. Hes like the one decent character in this adaptation, but the problem is that he is only Shaggy (or Norville) in namesake only. Hes just a totally different character. Shaggy is NOT a goody two shoes pushover. He’s not the opposite of those traits, exactly, but they were never ever parts of his characterization. Also a lot of Shaggy’s appeal comes from his relationship with Scooby. Take out Scooby and you take out the heart of his character and rhe group.
Velma- A character who was originally smart with a tiny streak of sarcasm (but was still ultimately well meaning) is amplified into an insufferable snarky asshole. Yes, she has had her snarky moments, but they were all balanced with moments of well-meaning and kindness. That’s what a voice of reason type character needs. Not constant uplifting or overboard pessimism, but balance.
the normal shaggy is as close to a stoner as Hanna-Barbera could get away with and the shaggy from velma is about as anti drugs/ weed as you can get
We all know norville is on drugs. He just claims that he doesn't take it or like it.
Norvilles dad looks like Shaggy
That's what they should have used
Trying to make a Next Generation instead of rewriting History
every show has a different version of each charector but this is ridiculous because they arent anything like the charectors are supposed to be. Fred annoys me most because Fred is this dude who doesn't ever really care about gender and just wants to vibe (at least in the scooby doo ive seen) and here he's trying to be alpha male
what have they done to them im literally crying rn because they had to ruin them 😢
It got so much worse in the later episodes... Velma gets on a stripper pole in front of her dad and makes a joke about daddy issues, she twerks in front of a dead body, her mother shows up and is apparently hypnotized or some shite... How this stuff gets the green light is beyond me... It's not like they're making money off of it. It gets a lot of social media attention but that's it. Likes and retweets do not equal sales.
It’s like audience baiting instead of actually trying to make anything REMOTELY good
Wtf 😭
Bro 😧
What?? She did what in front of her Dad, that's disgusting 🤢🤢
Hypnotised to do what??
Imagine being one of the animators who worked on this and having to show your work to your friends and family on mute.
I wouldnt even show it id be too embarressed
@@user-mt5zl4rp5h they shouldn't. Velma (visual wise) looks amazing
Do you guys agree that if what happened in 2020 didn’t happen, Velma wouldn’t have gotten made?
@@uria3679 Are you blaming Velma on the pandemic? Covid did a lot of things wrong but that seems unfair.
I mean I would probably do that regularly. If MY work is just the animation, I'll just say it might contain spoilers and they should try watching the show.
Velma has sooo much hate for people in this show and that by itself strays away from her true character, who is someone who's intelligent, helpful, respectful, brave, and loves a good mystery. Most of which the writers and everyone on this show disregarded in the first place. It's as if they didn't respect the source material in the first place....Oh now I see it.
It's almost like someone could have told them it's a bad idea
@@NespeCoaching like me for example or anyone with a brain
It feels like they had an idea for their own show, couldn't get the green light unless they got the rights from another show to bring more investors to it. Either way it's a disservice
@@plaidzebra5526 Yeah it seems like the whole idea was just to do like a "see how toxic and annoying everyone is nowadays" satire thing but then they made it a scooby doo show so now people are expecting to be sincere. So it just comes off as this sucks.
Velma is what you would get if you let Twitter Users write a show who didn't grow up with Scoody Doo filled with self inserts and narcissists.
From what I've seen, the writers seem to hate Twitter Users.
@@Diinytro which is exactly how Twitter users act. I mean have you not seen the constant wars going on in Twitter over the most mundane things?
@@Diinytro I'd venture to say that a good majority of twitter users hate themselves
@@michaelfireheart8300 That is in no way unique to twitter. How many youtube channels are there that thrive on rants about mundane things?
@@Diinytro not many outside the beauty ones. Compared to Twitter which is practically a daily occurrence. There's a difference here and let's not act like hating something, means you aren't actively participating in it. Plus who said I thought that fighting like wild animals was unique to Twitter, I merely pointed out how Twitter is the most notorious one, because it's pretty much daily how often arguments happen, compared to other platforms
1. It’s bad
2. It’s horrible
3. Its horrendous
4. True Shaggy would instantly erase it
Velma was never condescending. This Velma is a mean girl who isn't famous in school but wants to be
She had a few bitchy moments in the past, like in Mystery Incorporated. But her character in general is not supposed to be. She's supposed to be smart and logical, but still caring and friendly.
i’m guessing you didn’t watch mystery incorporated. velma has been condescending in MANY iterations.
@@DANIELGORMANN yeah but at least she was smart in doing it in that show also she gets better
@@painvillegaming4119 you don’t realise that velma is a prequel…
@@DANIELGORMANN the greatest prequal of all time. I can't wait to see them get Scooby, solve mysteries, become a team, turn white, and learn the value of friendship.
as an animator, i really appreciate the comments about animation in here. animators are frequently put on projects they don't really feel connected to, they might even despise it. (i know i would be if i were put on Velma.) but the animators did a good job on this show, all things considered. the hallucination scenes are animated very well and everything else is basically as good or better than most other adult animated shows. the writing, directing, design and almost everything else may be really terrible but you have to appreciate the animators for making it watchable at best.
I don't think anyone really blames you guys or CG folks because you have nothing to do with piss-poor writing and scripts. Look at new Star Wars sequels and how stunning all of the CG is while writing was absolutely ad-lib trash.
I agree the animation was well done.
A polished turd is stil a turd. Even the best animators in the world can’t change that.
I agree. The animations were impressive. As far as the show, it's not that bad. I don't think it's horrible. Hopefully the next season will be better.
I’m adding this as well. I think perhaps some people just want to complain and this was a suitable target. Perhaps the shows humor is more for women? And it’s ok to not enjoy a show. But some of the criticism has been brutal!
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Gumball was meant for kids but damn some of those jokes hit hard and are funny to all ages
i’ve always liked gumball because of it’s animation but also because a lot of it’s locations are based on places in the city where i live which is vallejo california
Gumball was trying to be itself, not something it so clearly isn't!
@@3nowStorm and when darwin slipped on it 💀
That is what makes it such a good show! A well done kids show is a show anyone can enjoy!
to be fair the concept was originally proposed as an adult swim show, but it was reframed to fit a younger audience because of how "child like" the colors and character designs were
As a nerdy half blind girl I always looked up to her but this show completely changed her whole personality
Velma is that rare thing, that brings everyone together. Everyone from whichever political spectrum, background, race, identity, experience that you can think of, to all say in a single unifying voice...
"Wow that was terrible, that was not good."
It's like high guardian spice tbh
@@lucianaproano4109 Oh yeah... I forgot about that. Hopefully, I'll have that same reaction in a year when someone mentions Velma.
The disagreement? That certain members of society, apart from its creators, are more responsible for the butterfly wing flapping than others.
@@lucianaproano4109 it's worse.
Except for some reason r/Velma
I think one of the strangest parts of the show is how consistently Velma is told off by multiple characters that she’s pretty horrible to everyone. She has her faults of being too judgy, mean, and nasty laid out in plain terms and just ignores all of it. In fact the show will even frame it that she’s right in her judgements, but *maybe* she was just not delivering her mean-spirited message correctly. Hell even the popular “mean girls” tell her that she’s too judgy and rude, but she just comes up with an alternate explanation of her actions to brush criticism off. It honestly comes off like someone on the writing team had been criticized for these issues, and is just mockingly parroting them in the show to frame themselves as in the right.
Who ever said Velma was nice in the original. Her attitude was pretty much "monsters are not real and I will prove it. And if you believe in monsters, you are stupid."
@davidpaulk3661 Velma was never like that. Even in Where Are You? she let people ask their questions and explained things. She was nice and smart, and despite the original characters being simple in terms of personality, they played off each other quite well.
@@massee2119 I agree. But she had to get to that point. This is not the refined, mature, Velma who learns she’s not better than everyone. This show expresses how she got to that point. My high school self and my current adult self are two different people. I would probably body slam my high school self….lol. It’s a coming of age story.
@@Canyoufollow81
The original Velma in the original Hana Barbara cartoons was never necessarily skeptical over possible supernatural events occurring. However she was thorough in her investigations and was never surprised to find a ghost or ghoul to just be a creep in a mask. So yes, she was nice and smart, with the running gag of loosing her glasses.
Newer renditions of Velma often made changes to her character. The issue with this show I feel isn’t just their starting personalities, it’s the work writers would have to put in to make the majority of these characters redeemable and similar to the mystery inc we like and love, or whether they even will be similar.
@@mr.dantastic5073 Yes!! I totally agree it is going to be a challenge. That’s why I like it. How are they going to get there. It’s the journey. We already know the outcome. We know Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader. The question is-How?
I can't even describe the magnitude of the insult of comparing Velma to Daria. Daria was ACTUALLY WITTY. And she actually did grow as a character and admit to her own foibles.
I think that he was saying that Velma is just a daria ripoff
Hell the last chapter of the series (At least the one I remember) is about a self reflection of herself and her attitude after remember a repressed memory of her childhood
Bro why modern remakes about movies or series always change their race like, can't you just make a new character or straight up like a different movies, don't need to change the race on the character that already has a race.
@Boinomas 1 eh, the race rarely matters. Just be honest and say you preferred it when they were white, instead of this half-ass reason that is purely based on feelings rather than logical reasoning. The original shows often don't bring up race, so changing it *shouldn't* matter. Because you if do think it matters, then you are at the exact same level as this show's writers, where they constantly bring up race. A shows themes and characters are what matters unless race is literally INTEGRAL to the characters and story (spoiler, it often is not)
@@j.e.g.9513 No idc if they white or not, i just like the original races, imo don't need to change it. Instead making a new movie or make another character.
I love how Alex can be like "y'all are overreacting, this isn't that bad" then proceeds to list 10 reasons why the show is weird and a kinda trashy
It's totally possible to make main characters who are bad and have to become good. Mega mind is a pretty good example of this. But he still gave us SOMETHING to like about him. He showed himself as a redeemable character early on and gave us something to root for. Daria isn't really "bad" either. Angsty and snarky? Yes. But it's rare that she's ever unfairly so and the times where she is, the show quickly shows us why this was wrong. Velma quite literally gives us nothing.
Eh i hate “bad turning good” characters, 9 times out of 10 they end up being bad
Velma is gr8. Stop the h8!
The show makes it incredibely clear in the 2nd episode that Velma's character arc is "kinda maybe considering not being such a judgmental bitch" and continues to hammer in both that and her openness and willingness to improve. I'm not sure if we watched the same show if you actually think it "gives us nothing" in that regard.
Whoever is in charge of HBO now is steering it off the same cliff Netflix, Amazon and AppleTV fell off.
Hope HotD stays watchable. I don't want another GoT8.
They keep mentioning teenage girls
with missing brains. Are these brain less
teens the target audience for the show?
Or are these brain less teens reprehensive
of the writers of the show.
Let’s be real this was the video we’ve all been waiting for from him in 2023
Seconded, I was hoping that he'd review this train wreck, and he did!
I wasnt waiting for shit
Second. Still waiting for the new after movie
Ikr,
True
Here's the thing: Mindy has an absolute perfect voice for Velma, her voice fits so well. That said, this show is flaming garbage and should be considered a crime against humanity.
Honestly yeah I thought so too. It’s a huge shame.
wrong mindy, Mindy Cohn was a better velma.
I know, right?
I hope she takes the hint that nobody wants her around anymore
To bad she is a horrible bitch in the show.
I have nothing but contempt for the producers/writers, but I have nothing but respect for the animation team.
I’m not afraid to say that this is a horrible way to implement “inclusivity.” She really changed up the whole personality of every single character in the worst possible way.
Fr like okay, if we're going with a race swap fine, could be an interesting opportunity to recontextualuze the characters life experiences and how they became who they are in the end. But instead it just seems like an excuse to use race as a punchline, and it's kinda fucked that the POC versions of the Scooby gang are apparently WAY worse people than the white ones 💀like yikes
This is basically the finest example of the flaws of inclusivity for the sake of it.
@@ijornhribrudkrvir The race of the characters mirrors the voice actors, which makes sense.
That's because Mindy is a conservative
@@danielorlovaquinn Mindy is pretty far from being conservative. She's about as liberal as the rest of hollyweird
I think Alex wanted to point out the show wasn't as bad as all those other Scooby-Doo adaptions but when he finally watched the show he realized it was much, much worse.
A few of those adaptations while bad...still respected the formula of scooby doo some how.
Heck even they live action movies from the 2000's while trying to be more adult-ish still kept the recognizable quirks of the characters and the dog.
@@rushalias8511 I love the second movie, but the first ones also pretty good.
@@rushalias8511 the life action movies were actually very good representation of the animated characters. Looking back now in the era of life action movies of animated movies, they did a really good job.
i think his point was that people are pretending to like scooby doo. One of the biggest complaints about Velma is how it breaks the character molds that were supposedly set in stone, when in reality, they've been breaking those molds for years. No one who watched Velma actually likes scooby doo, and the franchise isn't exactly a masterpiece. This show is just another on the long list of flops that scooby doo can add to it's resume
@@agad1177 yeah… I thought I was going crazy watching some of the other reactions because so many fixated on it’s deviations from the “classic “ scooby doo and that’s such hollow criticism because it truthfully is bad but that’s not why.. if it was actually funny then it wouldn’t matter if it was faithful
The problem is that every character is a complete stereotype of there different ethnicity or social standing, like for example Fred is supposed to be the stupid rich white kid so all of his jokes are about that and shaggy is the weird looking nerd so his jokes are about him being sad, Daphne of course is the popular girl which means she has no personality and the worst jokes and then there’s Velma who is the quirky loner cool kid who is sassy and is apparently better than everyone, my point is that they aren’t characters but caricatures of what people are supposed to be like
Who the hell thought taking the high guardian spice approach was a good idea?!
Also it’s racist
It’s racist woke 💩. Velma is white. Stop trying to f up cartoons for you fake inclusivity garbage. Nothing like The original Scooby Doo.
Daphne has always been that way though
bro had me searching up what "caricatures" meant 💀
I feel so bad for the animators who animated this
As an unnoticed editor/animator I can't imagine the misery and agony they're going through
@@SomeUnnoticedAnimatorAndEditor Still way less misery than many other jobs like working in retail, construction during the summer, ... like actual misery not animating "crap" you don't care about because it is just a job.
@@T0ghar
No I mean the fact they were payed to draw this type of shit for money 😭
@@T0ghar Like they could've just quit yet they didn't 💀
@@T0gharjeez there not saying those jobs are unnoticed they are just saying that it’s hard to animate
Mindy has always been toxic and I'm glad it's finally coming more to light, but at what cost? What a tragedy, honestly. RIP the animators who tried in vain.
Yep and remember she cut off her brother for impersonating a black person to get into a good college, she didn’t cut him off till he was caught but knew what he was doing the whole time.
The kiss thing is totally disgusting. If it were a married woman getting kissed unwillingly at work by her male co-star, there’ll be calls to remove him from the limelight immediately.
This is the point of feminism: we call everyone on their bull crap. Not just men. If you get groped in a way that makes you uncomfortable, you have the right to say “this is wrong, don’t do that.” Doesn’t matter what you have in your pants or what you identify as
@@TheBadGuy15 what the f????
@@Grim_Sister That is not feminism, it's called equality. All feminism does is gaslight men and tell women that acting like whores is empowering.
Remember, the animators only change how we view the story, but they can’t change the story
Y’know, I never realized how I didn’t take animation seriously. When Alex pointed out that the biggest video game adaptation out there is Pokémon but no one cares cause it’s cartoon really opened my eyes. Excellent point.
They keep mentioning teenage girls
with missing brains. Are these brain less
teens the target audience for the show?
Or are these brain less teens reprehensive
of the writers of the show.
As an animator, it’s so refreshing to see people realize this almost in real time. I’ve never understood why people just claim animation is worthless. It’s our least restrictive form of visual media, and yeah it took us a decade or two to figure out how to best use it, plus even these days the most accessible cartoons can be restrictively animated to save on time and money. But think about drawing a picture-already hard in itself-and then drawing the same picture with slight tweaks at least 300 more times and you will get about 2 seconds of animation. It’s a ton of hard work, and until recently, it’s been written off as garbage and child’s play. Spread the word, we deserve the recognition
@@pastadash4684 300 frames = around 12 seconds of animation, not 2, yes animating is time consuming, but not that much bro, especially when you animate in 2D, you dont draw 24 poses for a one second animation, 300 frames for a 2 second animation means 150 frames per second ? Nope, we animate at 24 frames per second most of the time, i'm wondering if you're just trying to make a point by exaggerating numbers or if you're just lying about being an animator xD
@@bmaxime8771 I think he meant constantly refining the picture by redrawing, although I guess its gotten slightly easier with digital.
…Wait, video game adaptation?
Red and Green came before Yellow… (2 years in fact)
Yellow was based off of the anime, so I can get that argument.
But not RB&G.
Though at this point, no one really should bat an eye at that Gen tbh… it’s more broken (structurally and glitch-wise) than Mat’s family is in Digimon (domestically).
What I love about Velma, is that they don't even let the audience in on what clue Velma just found. She'll just be one-hundred-percent certain somebody is guilty, and then randomly change her mind because of some detail that nobody would have been able to notice.
ah, the old BBC Sherlock technique.
@@walkingexistentaldread3079 at least bbc Sherlock had substance. Velma is a disgrace.
@@walkingexistentaldread3079 More like every sherlock book ever. BBC was exceptionally faithful to the books. And the books were just that.
@@Zharina BBC was not faithful to the books. Moriarty was a ambiguously gay psychopath instead of a match to Sherlock’s intelligence and honestly, not that big of a character in the books. John is played as “exasperated straight white man who doesn’t know what’s going on” the entire show despite that John was just as smart as Sherlock in the books, just not as perceptive. they didn’t even allow Irene Adler to outsmart Sherlock like she did in her own story and of course she had to be extremely attracted to him for no reason. BBC Sherlock sucked.
@@walkingexistentaldread3079 Yes but the books always had the problem of "if I eliminate every other possibility then whatever remains must be the truth" which falls apart when you ask the question "well how do you know about all the possibilities?" I call it the arthur conan doyle fallacy.
9:21 "And throughout the show, I assume given how the first four episodes are, she's gonna become LESS unlikeable." That's where you're wrong, bud.
Did it get better? Somehow?
I hate how "adult" apparently means "everyone's a terrible person all the time" Like, I'm all for flawed characters, but that ain't it, chief. Even if you take Daria, who this Velma seems to be inspired by: She was a bit antisocial and made biting remarks about everyone, but that wasn't her whole character, and whether she was being sarcastic or sincere in any given scene said something about her as a person. She could be very open and vulnerable towards those she trusted (especially later on in the series, when she had developed a little), and while at times she acted as if she was better than everyone else, it was because deep down she felt she was worse. Sometimes characters treated each other poorly, but they also sometimes reconciled and even went out of their way to help each other, most characters weren't inherently malicious, just human. That's realistic! But for some reason we seem to think realism means everyone's selfish and mean, nothing really matters and everything's about sex.
She was a side character from Bevis and Butthead before getting a spinoff
Daria actually worked because of good writing, fairly original premise, and because she actually knew when she crossed a line and apologized or made up for it.
This show got made because nobody had the guts to tell the show runners "No". That's really all there is to it.
The sense of community and unity being fostered by the universal piling-on against this show deserves a Nobel Prize.
They keep mentioning teenage girls
with missing brains. Are these brain less
teens the target audience for the show?
Or are these brain less teens reprehensive
of the writers of the show.
Yeah 😂
Make Entertainment Great Again and Make America Great Again
I honestly don’t mind that they are different cultures and ethnicities. What I mind is the script
The thing is that Daria is actually a relatable character under the surface. She isn't always correct and she isn't always smarter than every situation she is in. "Velma" (more like Mindy Kaling animated) always has a one liner or something snarky to say that none of the other characters can refute because she is some all powerful being.
I've never watched Daria, but some of the stuff about it I've heard point to it basically showing how isolated Daria is and how she thinks the world is awful, but she's not a bad person, just snarky and out of place in life. "Velma"... is basically a full-on egotist who is incapable of viewing herself as in the wrong and will instantly rationalize any and all attempts to point out that she is in the wrong or being a jerk. I think the reason nobody refutes her is less that she's right, and more that they are just so used to her shit that they ignore her, with moments where they call her out being because she's finally ended up pushing too far.
This is exactly how I feel about Wednesday!
@@PortiaDDoesStyle You think of Wednesday like Daria or Velma
@@itsmeact369 I see Wednesday like Velma.
. . .Who's Daria?
this video helped me realize that the only thing Velma is missing is laugh tracks after their jokes. 💀
The show was so unfunny that the laugh track couldn't laugh
@@SKMedia252 I was just thinking that...
Don't give them any ideas💀💀
Do they even deserve laugh tracks?
@@MariOmor1definitely not
I hate how they made Fred a jerk like he always loved and cared for his friends and he and Velma were considered the most mature. They were such a duo and I hate how they took that away. Also Shaggy just feels so flat now it's unbearable to watch like I miss his relationship with Scooby Doo. And Daphne was pretty, funny, smart, and just an overall lovable character like the fact that they just resorted to making her only personality traits being hot and in love with her best friend is so lame. I ALSO MISS SCOOBY WHERE THE HELL IS HE?
OKAY so apparently they took him out because they didn’t want a dog in the show :,)
Your little Avatars facial expressions are drawn so damn well. You really took that to the next level!
Reminds me a lot of ATLA animation
I'm glad you pointed out the 'color blindness' thing because that seems to be something that happens too much. People change race but don't shut up about it, so there isn't any blindness. You can change race and still have a good show, not all humor reflects in skin color.
There's also a heirarchy where you can swap race one direction but not the other ie white>asian>Latino>south Asian>black
I'm black and I don't like the show for skin color and stereotypes, like why did they have to make shaggy black, they ruined him in my opinion, they made the other two people in the gang idiots or brats kinda
Idc if they characters change colors as long it’s entertaining as a whole. Seems like this show is just poorly written
Imo, it could work if they had something to say or some experience to bring to the screen through the characters, but in practice it's just used for them to shit on each other. So what's the point?
It's a weird decision that occupies a bizarre limbo between pointless and tasteless.
"color blind casting": casting different races to full a checklist so the show won't be cancelled on twitter
When fanfiction writers can make a better Scooby Doo story than a board of Hollywood writers
I’d rather read 50k words of Scooby Doo fanfic than watch a full episode of this accursed show
I think the show is bait. As in Scooby-Doo as a whole is just isn't big or talked about much in this generation so in order to create buzz and get people interested again they just made up a bad Velma show to gain views.
@@Foun_D_OnePiece You could be right, though it does feel more like Kaling's vanity project.
@@Foun_D_OnePiece I have my tin foil hat on, I think that may actually be the case because Scooby Doo has been trending for days now and is on the public eye. People are going back to watch older Scooby shows and if that was their goal… it worked
@Hana Uzaki I have also started thinking Velma is meant to be the New Coke of the Scooby-Doo franchise, and its ts sole purpose is to make people want the original.
Ok but can we talk about how Alex evolved to reviewing animations?????
I want him to review animations more
He's reviewed some animations in the past, but only very rarely.
Yeah, I really love what he does :)
I only noticed it when you said that 😂
Freakazoid! Haaha
Changing the characters this much is like making a teenage mutant ninja tutrles show where none of them are leaders, party dudes, do machines or have attitudes. The core of scooby doo is the core of the characters to make their dynamic what it is, and mystery solving, and they spent as much time as possible not even trying to do anything approximating those things in favour of the creator making a vent show about how much she hates high school??
or like pizza
Velma is phenomenal. Not the show, but the reason is that it’s brought so many people together of different cultures genders views all United to hate the show. Not sure if that was the intention but it worked out.
Yes the emotion everyone can get behind… absolute unadulterated hatred, but that is the human race. Tell us to love and be kind we’ll kill ya but give us a common enemy and we will collective work together.
@@Bananabanana347 everyone joining WW2 be like:
It's a beautiful trash fire that's keeping a lot of people warm.
Velma is the perfect example of why you should never make a kids show a adults one
It could've been done but they went R rated way too quickly and changed too much. Scoobynatural and the SD Murder Files are good examples of how how to actually do it. Also the same guy has been voicing Fred for 50+ years so it was never going to work without him in my opinion
@@morpheusmatrix9207 I did like how they got the real Fred to voice act Fred's dad though, pretty neat to see stuff like that change over time.
We should've learned that 20 years ago with Ren & Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon
it's npt an adult show its for teens
Samurai jack
Just a quick reminder to everyone watching, if you haven't yet, even if it might sound like fun to "hate-watch" this show, please don't. Regardless if you enjoy it or not, they make a lot of money from you watching the show. So many people have hate-watched this show that it's already cleared for a season 2. Let's all band together and stop these writers from profiting off of their terrible creations.
Edit: Also please don't come for the VA's in this show, they probably only did this for money.
Except for Mindy kaling she deserves every amount of hate
And if you ARE going to hate watch -you're going to end up hating yourself- do the righteous thing and pirate it or watch it on a third-party free site. That's more honorable.
@@oduinn7948 argh matey
@@oduinn7948 I'm already doing that right now. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@osets2117DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
This show is made me appreciate how good of a job Deadpool has done on 4th wall breaking I have never realized how hard it is to actually make good jokes
Funnily enough, Alex Meyers says that meta humor can only work if done sparingly, yet Deadpool spends pretty much the entire second movie breaking the 4th wall
Yep, I am glad this show came out because it adds perspective.
As you said, it showed people that 4th wall break humour is very hard and can be done bad. It showed that making characters dislikable in the show is not the same as making characters dislikable to the audience. If it wasn't obvious already, it showed over-woking a show is not a good idea - especially if it goes as far as not only race and orientation swapping characters around, but as far as giving dangerous advice such as "kiss one out of a panic attack" just to show a "romantic" scene of same orientation.
Also, I am somebody who enjoyed Be Cool, Scooby Doo. Obviously it's not Mystery Inc, but as a lighter show during a period immediately before animation would hit a low period, it was somewhat refreshing. It's a shame people disliked it... then Velma came out. And people realised there was way way worse.
Sadly, Velma flourished because of the HBO Max Content Purge, and so many shows lost far greater potential. Victor and Valentino literally had Latino characters, they could have banked on that show if they wanted something non-white, it had so much potential, but it came out at the worst possible time.
" All animation even bad animation is kinda a miracle" that statement deserves respect
if you fuck up animation so bad it even becomes a masterpiece that would challenge the passage of time
in what way? Me making something that resembles velma is a miracle as I don't have the talent or the equipment for it. but a MULTI-MILLION dollar studio who can literally hire the best animators making a cartoon looking like velma comes off as cheap and lazy as you know they could do better but they didn't care. when someone makes the "The animation is bad" argument its more because its bad based on the money they spent. not that its the worse animation ever. but pretending that money is not a factor here is why I despise this statement.
@@DrFreeman23 I’m pretty sure what he means is that because most people have a negative opinion on animation due to the lack of budget being shelled out to create the best product possible and therefore not everybody understands what animation can truly be capable of, it’s a miracle that anybody at all decides to pursue it and become those “great animators” you mentioned in the first place. It’s a thankless job that is restrictive af because of how time consuming and therefore expensive it is to make well.
@@DrFreeman23 money isn't the only thing that matters, time is also a very important factor, as even with a big budget, not enough time can cause the animation to look trash.
The thing that bothers me about the Daria comparison is that if the writers really were partially inspired by her then they truly know just as much about her character as Velmas. Daria was never mean or miserable just to be mean, and in fact it bothered her when people thought of her that way. As she points out in one episode, shes not miserable or mean, shes just not like the people who surround her. She usually had a point to any "meanness" she displayed, and it wasn't out of pure spite or to just make someone feel bad. Sure she had a blunt honesty that because of her social awkwardness and inability to express her emotions very well tended to come out more biting in nature, but she also had a lot of complex depth underneath all her sarcastic remarks, as did pretty much every other character. If they were aiming for a modern Daria-like vibe then they couldn't have missed the mark more. Velma doesnt seem to have any underlying point to her words or actions, other than - I'm better than you and I'm going to tell you exactly how much better, smarter, wittier, etc etc etc than you I am, constantly.
But that's just my take 😋
Daria was mean sometimes, but it was always a moment of weakness or extreme frustration, obviously different from her usual quips. Also, Daria's quips were always really hilarious. Most importantly, Daria was an extremely likeable character - not to some of her schoolmates perhaps, but to the audience. Her friendship with Jane is honestly one of the best written friendships I've seen on TV. But that's all because overall Daria is a superbly written show. It's not just a hilarious comedy, it has depth, understanding of how people act and feel and uses animated comedy as clever means of exploring attitudes, relationships etc. That's why Daria, despite beeing so very much a 90s show I think still is entertaining and relevant, while Velma is instantly dated, so much of a caricature it's like a time capsule of a moment in time that never existed in the first place.
Daria is such a good show. I remember binge watching it and the episode where a genuinely mean bully dies asks the question of "Wait, but they were actually a very mean person, should we feel bad? I know we should, because someone died, but.. they were also a cruel individual..." it asked some difficult questions that I've not seen so called "adult" shows ask.
Daria was a person, with flaws and empathy. Everything about Velma and the entire cast is incredibly 1 dimensional and that sucks. A modern day Daria would be awesome.
I feel like if that's what they were going for, then someone must of watched Daria and absolutely not understood why Daria was like she was and what she actually represented and felt.
I love daria
I always thought Daria felt more like a commentary on jaded youth.
Velma just feels like it’s trying so hard to appeal to the audience that it went the complete opposite direction.
I remember Daría was so good
You know it's bad when Alex became serious with his review
0:22 HALF A STAR?! I DIDN’T KNOW THAT WAS POSSIBLE, LOL!
13:42
Ah yes, my favorite ethnicity... Fred
Sameeeee
I feel sorry for the animators who did their job of creating art and we end up getting that dumpster fire called Velma
Mindy is the sole definition of the word "Privilege" itself. Where she grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle to get where she is now today. Yeah ... She made Velma herself-insert but this version of Fred is actually herself 😒.
SOME CUSHY IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 dartmouth
Be original.
it's defo true... It's the same reason I hate most Indian people in the US who want to talk about privilege and diversity when part of the reason why their families are there in the first place has to do with their Indian caste and privilege... Like Priyanka Chopra complaining about Apu lol
@@TedEhioghae there's no such thing as "unoriginality" when it comes to the truth
I think Archer is a pretty great example of adult animation that looks absolutely fantastic AND has great stories and delivery. I mean personally I think Archer (at least the first 4 seasons) are nearly perfect. It also features characters who are inherently kinda terrible people, but they're hilarious and likeable anyway.
Velma was like watching one of those horror movies where they write the teen characters as unlikable so we root for them to be killed. Which doesn't work when you know they won't be.
we always cared about scooby doo. there was just no reason to be offended over character assassination until now.
remember how people were up in arms about the terrible leaked powerpuff girls show? If you take something that had a special place in our childhood and ruin it for money then of course people will be mad.
I mean there was those live action films and at home films, but most people didn't even give them the time of day because of the fact they were unnecessary live action films.
Being autistic, Scoob is always a great way to make me stay calm.
A show without Scoob but based on the Scoob universe is just a Family Guy-esque show with characters named Velma, Fred, Shaggy, and Daphne.
Mystery Inc season 1 is a character assassination of Velma and it's somehow the most beloved Scooby Doo show.
@@michaelfireheart8300 the first two live actions are great. They had the perfect cast and the perfect mix between cartoon and real life.
Maybe i’m just blind but I literally didn’t know that Daphne was supposed to be Asian until the writers had her character explain that to me in the first five minutes.
Hahaha same
I think you're supposed to tell from the shape of the eyes, which... *cough*
@@excaliburv4332 Which what?
I deadass would not have been able to tell, and this video has been the first I've ever heard of it.
She's Asian but that's white-adjacent see
Them blatantly insulting adult animation fans IN THE TRAILER(Nice move writers)- was my red flag.
I mean they pretty much just came out and said "this show is not made for its target audience". I'm tired of terms like "woke" and "get woke go broke" but it's true that media producers have been saying their work is "not for" some demographics then watching their profits dwindle for years... In light of that "if you would watch this show it's not for you" is a bold stance 😂
Is it just me or is any time an animation has been marketed "for adults"... it's been not only outrageously bad, but shows that aren't marketed that way are generally more mature and already account for not only younger but older audiences?
It makes me sad that the animators put so much effort into something like this. Clearly they are extremely talented people. I've been around animators and animation enough to know that it is not easy to make that stuff look so smooth and clean, especially in 2D. And because the rest of the show is so terribly bad, a lot of people are looking past that. And it makes me more sad that since i doubt this show will be renewed for season two a lot of them are gonna lose their jobs. Artists deserve more love sometimes😭
Cut throat career field just like the gaming industry
It did get renewed
it actually got renewed and that is the most disappointing aspect i've heard about this show so far
@@sugar9970 well... At least the animators will keep getting paid :')
Do you guys agree that if what happened in 2020 didn’t happen, Velma wouldn’t have gotten made?
Being meta/calling out your own genre can work but you have to still have respect for what you’re poking fun at. The first Scream movie is a perfect example. It calls out the cliches of horror movies but it’s clear it still has an appreciation for the genre. This show just comes off as having no respect for adult animation, YA mystery shows and whatever other genre it falls into. It wants to make fun of adult animation without realizing that’s what it is.
It also seems really edge lord “I’m not like OTHER cartoons!” While being a lot like other terrible shows.
Exactly. Something that is related to Scream is the Scary Movie parody that still respects the movie and genre while poking fun at it. That’s another example of that style of comedy working and still being a great movie that lots of ppl enjoy
Ironic you mention Scream because that has shaggy in it lol 😂
Deadpool is a perfect example of that
They keep mentioning teenage girls
with missing brains. Are these brain less
teens the target audience for the show?
Or are these brain less teens reprehensive
of the writers of the show.
One of the only times Alex’s over the top titles is perfectly accurate 😭
What about the Riverdale videos?
@Don't Read Profile Picture ok. 😁👍
@@curosaber “one of” but yeah
Mindy literally wrote herself as velma. That's the problem with these modern movies is that you have witers and instead of coming up with new clever ideas or altlest follow source materials, they just self insert or destroy the original, rewrite the characters and push identify politics
These animators deserved so much better.
We seriously need them working on at least a actually decent show 💀
@@sansskeloton1900 I seriously almost wonder if they're trolling at this point. You can't make a show this bad without trying to make it horrible.
This monstrosity made Scrappy Doo look like an oscar-winning film.
At least Scrappy was only the "overly-brave little kid" type of annoying. I could probably get over that soon enough. But this Velma's type, "selfish, arrogant, vain, offensive, spiteful jerkass"...it CLINGS like hell.
Scrappy’s whole problem is the casting and design. He feels very grown in those: the voice is the voice of a middle aged man and the design makes one think he is a dog with a case of dwarfism.
A redesign is needed for this character.
And he is still better than Mindy’s Velma
I more and more feel like the only person who liked scrappy
@@theAverageJoe25 I didn't really hate him, but I got mad at him a lot because he was so pushy and caused a lot of problems for Shaggy and Scooby. Since it was just them during that run, the cowardly duo needed someone to push the action, but it just seemed like Scrappy was too self-absorbed to read the room. Since he was supposed to be a child, though he didn't feel like one (I agree that he needs a redesign), it made sense, so it didn't bloom to hate, but I didn't like him.
Since they are so stupid and have renewed Velma for another season, she should bring Scrappy Doo as her pet. Lol
I genuinely think that the writers wanted to make another kind of show, and when they were forcefully saddled with the Scooby Doo media, they rage baited the show’s writing so hard that they’d get a constant stream of hate watchers to keep them afloat
Now this is a very interesting theory 😮
Yeah well eventually people are gonna forget about the show. Views will dwindle and it'll be left in the dirt where it belongs. That rage bait is only a tiny spark.
@@thephase665 Heard it got renewed though cause people hate watched it. Not 100% sure though
Another god awful show
@@Snow-xd4rvDoubt it was because people watched it. It’s probably just because it’s popular (even if it’s for all the wrong reasons). So many people are talking about it, and I can’t believe that enough people would even hate-watch this show to get it renewed. I’d be more willing to believe that it was always going to get renewed from the start, for some insane reason.
this man has better humor then the whole script team combined
Alex breaking his own rule about not covering animation for THIS is iconic
Didnt he cover miraculous? I can understand it though, cuz miraculous is dogwater
@@Yowatchadoing Better than this. But season 5 of the show is actually good.
@@dangerbuffrocky It's better than this, yes, im just saying that velma isnt the only animated show that Alex has covered. (and i agree that season 5 is good)
He only breaks the rules for a really popular or controversial movie/series
They keep mentioning teenage girls
with missing brains. Are these brain less
teens the target audience for the show?
Or are these brain less teens reprehensive
of the writers of the show.
I saw this in a comment once: Velma feels like the creator had an original show in mind, but HBO wanted to make it into a Scooby Doo thing because why not, so they had to change a lot of their original ideas in order to get the spot.
Totally right
@@a__ara maybe?
@@IavieenvertI mean look at glee, still one of the most popular shows. And almost everyone there was gay.
Yeah it was supposed to be a "look how toxic and annoying and stupid kids are nowadays" satire thing but they tried to slap a scooby-doo coat of paint on it.
What bothers me the most, is their bizarre obsession with underaged undressed children. Each episode is somehow worse than the one before it. It’s like everybody that was involved in the show needs to be on some kind of watchlist.
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Yeah, it's not like the franchise has been around for over half a century. Oh, wait...
I pity every animator on this. They clearly did their best work for a writer's room that seems to despise nerd culture as a whole. And it's not even like they are insulting us by the way, they are actively going out of their way to shit on it.
The minute they made Velma a black lesbian, it was 💩
@@zengergazette9738 shes indian
@@verniellove891, who cares. It’s still racist woke BS.
Castlevania is another good example of an amazingly animated video game adaptation. The action scenes are impeccable. It really is sad animation is not given the respect it deserves in the U.S. even when it performs better and actually has a cultural impact unlike the soulless majority of live-action adaptations.
I dunno. That show really screwed up Hector and Alucard as characters. Alucard in particular went from being an extremely classy Byronic hero to being kind of trashy and needlessly aggressive, which is such a fundamental misread of his character. Hector also was nowhere near the victim he's turned into in the show, where he's almost unrecognizable. They also blended Shade with Isaac, which is just a weird af decision
@@lucyferos205 No part of your opinion makes this show any less amazingly animated, which is the point of my comment. And I disagree with everything you think is bad, just because you don't like certain character development does not mean it was poorly written.
In our western culture, we collectively indulge in consumerism, so we are just enabling this terrible animation, it’s all a cash grab and soulless bleak writing with dry ass one dimensional characters.
Castlevania remains one of my favorite shows ever (even despite some of the creative decisions they made later on). I'm really excited for the Nocturne spinoff!
@@lucyferos205 bad take lmao
This is the only way I could watch this show. Thanks for taking one for the team Alex!!!
^this 💯
THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMATION!!!!
Most youtubers just call the animation shit, meanwhile I'm here gaping in awe at how cool the panic attack imagery is.
It almost made me watch more than 2 episodes... ALMOST! The pure hatred emanating from velma at all times held me back
Alex reacting to Velma was not what I saw coming on a Friday afternoon 💀
Same here
same
Friday night for me
A Friday night maybe.
Well this is the exact kind of show that is perfect for him to make a video on. So it should have totally been expected.
as a 3d artist, I feel bad for the animators. from my experience, they probably got paid very little and got no joy out of it.
3d Artists are amazing.
You work just as hard as any animators in the industry.
Animation isn’t an entertainment “genre/category”. It’s simply a style of artistic expression, that can be found in literally every genre.
Exactly, there is even more than one medium of animation before we get into genres. There are tons of video games that were hand drawn animated (like Cuphead and Sundered).
You put it so well, that's exactly it.
Except a straight classic western. Animation can't be found in that genre. I'll wait.
Thank you, now it's time for me to stage out the obvious
Velma is a propaganda, full of political agendas and were being made by the one that doesn't have any skills in storytelling, plot
Velma is unfaithful to its original sources to the point of just skin-deep (just the name, nothing else)
*Lucky Luke left the chat*
This is actually the first series everyone on TWITTER *AGREED* that it’s horrible. I mean if everyone on the drama app itself agrees on something, it’s BAD.