I really don't agree with you for the ISU 130. You compare it only to the ISU 152 alpha, but do not say a word on the two factors where it destroys the 152. First it reloads WAYYY faster than the 152 : 8 seconds reload, when you put adrenaline on you can outreload many opponents that think they're facing a 12 second long reload foe. Second : precision. The 130 is WAYYYY better sniper than 152. You can stay far away and land precision shots, where the ISU 152 sometimes misses at close range. All that make a big difference and therefore, the ISU 130 can not be on a "worst list".
I agree with this... ISU 130 is a dream to play... and the accuracy and reload are huge parts of it. The Derp of the ISU 152 is, without question, fun to play. But... so is the ISU 130 if you like taking long distance shots and hitting where you aim while still having that trollish ISU armor. Even the penetration discrepancy isn't as much of a factor because it is still more than good enough to pen most things that will be in front of you. As far as TDs go... especially TDs that snipe, it's pretty damn good.
"when you put adrenaline on you can outreload many oppoments thwt thing they're facing a 12 second long reload foe" Well, i think almost everyone knows isu 130 is a health eater, and most good players would ofcourse, fire and go back to cover, or just sidescrape the thing. Also i think Ferdinand is pretty good tank
@@Average_Crack_Addict sure, but even if he notice the difference, with 6.5 sec reload with adrenaline, that's often enough to land 2 hits before he backs up in cover. So between 900 and 1100 DMG (depending on ammo and RNG), which is pretty more than a 152 single shot, even with HE.
I own Ferdinand this a good tank. Got few M on it. Always guarentee top 3 all the time. Win or lose always stay behind have tanks they spot any you finish the job. Its good against Objects tanks.
I prefer the Ferdinand over the Jpanther 2. The JPANTHER2 has arguably a bigger footprint and literally no hull armor. It can easily be HE from the side and against t9 you are actually screwed. And although it is mobile, yes, and it's gun is great, the Ferdinand has basically the same gun and obviously a lot more armor.
I really like the ferdinand, i dont know why people hate it, i would most of the time just go with heavies and act like a support frontline td for them. If i remember correctly, i was grinding for jg pz e100, but jgpanther ll was so bad for me, that i bought ferdinand. Ferdinand's stock grinding was painfull, with that slow engine. But, when i got the cannon and engine unlocked, it wasnt such a problem it was before. I dont know if this thing actually sucks, or im just good at playing it. But in my opinion, its a pretty solid tier 8 td
The Ferd was actually very good in '14-16....but it has been soooo power crept it's not even funny. The armor was the x factor before, but now everything can pen it easily.
I got the STG for 3k in the auctions and still feel ripped off. The only thing it has going for it is the aim time, and it needs it with that shotgun level of dispersion.
@@ak_nora but that 640 is on a considerably less accurate platform... and takes a good bit longer to reload. IMO, ISU 130 doesn't fit the description of being a chassis that works against you with a gun that kicks ass. The gun kicks ass but the chassis is still the ISU hull that will troll block a lot of incoming shots and has a bit more mobility than the 152. Being as good or better/worse than the 152 is subjective and not worth arguing about... being in the top 5 worst list when things like the FCM 50t, Super Pershing, T44-100, or IS2-SH, to name a few, exist, well, I have to agree with Cool Wind and a few others, is a travesty. It's a CHEAP premium that can bring home 3K without even working up a sweat.
Isu130 has good gun handling and high dpm (particularly with prammo) and decent alpha. Disagree on that one, the others are pretty bad yeah. Honorable mentions are Is2sh, subpar pershing, t28, vk168, sta1, Is3
great videos and guides, thanks! suggestion... pls put in text, on the video or in the description, the names of the tanks you mention. sometimes newbies like me cant make out what you say :)
yeah this list is weird ngl. You often mention something along the lines of "why play this tank when this other tank does this job better". Which isn't really an argument for why the tank is bad, more just an argument for why there is a better tank than it. Also the isu130 is a great tank (just because the gun has less alpha and pen doesn't make it bad, the gun handling and dpm when you're using the premium rounds [which you should be] make up for it), the ferdinand is a decent tank and the stg, while not great, is by far not the worst tier 8. It still has a workable turret. It still has a workable gun. It's got very good mobility. The sta-1 is far worse. It has none of those (except mediocre mobility for a tank with paper armour). The stg is also really fun if you know how to play it.
Well SU-130pm is worse than isu-130, at least to my opinion. It has limited turret traverse, mid gun depression, mid mobility, 0 armour, not impressively high penetration, longer reload for crappy alpha damage, small amount of shells stored, and not the best accuracy.
How many battles have you its the best t8 td the most TDs have no turret the mobility is good for a TD and the gun have very good accuracy with high alpha and good camo and in my opinion a TD with good mobility and good camo dont need armor
@@nicofeldmann9684 all u just listed the ISU130 also has... except for a turret. The isu130 also has great camo and is also mobile while having special prammo and being MORE accurate than the su130pm. And don't forget isu isn't a HE magnet.
@@Tankiboy_yt the Su-130PM have 6% more camo 200m better shellvelocity better pen on AP and Heat better aimtime its have more PS per ton and and a 140° turret the Su-130PM is the best t8 TD but this TD have a very high skillcap its not a tank for noobs or average players
@@nicofeldmann9684 at least ISU-130 has some armour and can take some high explosive, unlike SU-130pm which is hopeless against it. Also, not only some armour, the tank has reasonably fast reload as well which is good. SU-130pm may has mobility and cammo, but it has shit gun, so not worth the trade with armour.
I have the hope that maybe with this video WG will buff any of these tanks. Like when you talked a lot about how bad is the Panther 2 but then WG buffed it by giving it more DPM and mobility.
Idk I think the t28 and t28 prot are pretty terrible too. The "armor" bounces nothing and the mobility is abysmal. Not to mention the gun is pretty bad for a t8 td as well.
Would you compare STG and Skoda T56 in replies? I paid for Skoda (new gamer) and feels miserable playing that tank. The reload time is a massive let down.
VK 90 is a very good tank but I actually think you should wait until you see a really good tier 8 premium in the shop for 7500 gold and swap it so you can have fun and make credits. (DO NOT BUY A TECH TREE PREMIUM, IS 6, lowe, Super Pershing ETC)
I like the su 101. Needs a lot of skill. Sadly almost none of the players have that. Su 101 has a great gun with great mobility. The hp, gun depression and armour make it difficult to use. Terrible for bad players. However it has potential. There are tanks that you just cabt use for anything. Not the case for su 101.
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I really don't agree with you for the ISU 130. You compare it only to the ISU 152 alpha, but do not say a word on the two factors where it destroys the 152. First it reloads WAYYY faster than the 152 : 8 seconds reload, when you put adrenaline on you can outreload many opponents that think they're facing a 12 second long reload foe. Second : precision. The 130 is WAYYYY better sniper than 152. You can stay far away and land precision shots, where the ISU 152 sometimes misses at close range. All that make a big difference and therefore, the ISU 130 can not be on a "worst list".
I agree with this... ISU 130 is a dream to play... and the accuracy and reload are huge parts of it. The Derp of the ISU 152 is, without question, fun to play. But... so is the ISU 130 if you like taking long distance shots and hitting where you aim while still having that trollish ISU armor. Even the penetration discrepancy isn't as much of a factor because it is still more than good enough to pen most things that will be in front of you. As far as TDs go... especially TDs that snipe, it's pretty damn good.
"when you put adrenaline on you can outreload many oppoments thwt thing they're facing a 12 second long reload foe"
Well, i think almost everyone knows isu 130 is a health eater, and most good players would ofcourse, fire and go back to cover, or just sidescrape the thing.
Also i think Ferdinand is pretty good tank
Agree. Isu130 has a non-derpy gun with 530 alpha that actually hits targets and very high dpm as well.
@@Average_Crack_Addict sure, but even if he notice the difference, with 6.5 sec reload with adrenaline, that's often enough to land 2 hits before he backs up in cover. So between 900 and 1100 DMG (depending on ammo and RNG), which is pretty more than a 152 single shot, even with HE.
Id rather get isu-152 than that tank
the SU-101 is the only tank that managed to give me crippling depression whilst trying to grind through it.
*not even ATs managed to do that.*
For me it was the other way around. Now both of them are sitting in my garage waiting for a special mode to come.
depression? think u mean happiness, cuz that thing only has 4 degrees of gun depression 🗿
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Wise words from Satan... it takes a lot to get the Marti stamp of approval.
I only just seen the obj244 bs, I've over £1500 of charms for tier10 through to 6 and the offer us the obj bs........
The ferdinand exist for ppl who want to grind the jageroo through the maus line, it's literally a bridge between an HT line with a TD
Yes,
I own Ferdinand this a good tank. Got few M on it. Always guarentee top 3 all the time.
Win or lose always stay behind have tanks they spot any you finish the job. Its good against Objects tanks.
I prefer the Ferdinand over the Jpanther 2. The JPANTHER2 has arguably a bigger footprint and literally no hull armor. It can easily be HE from the side and against t9 you are actually screwed. And although it is mobile, yes, and it's gun is great, the Ferdinand has basically the same gun and obviously a lot more armor.
@@AetherOnYTeh Ferdinand is easily penned and flanked where as the jp2 has great traverse speed and it’s upper hull is pretty good
@@canadiangoose4078 Upper hull? Do you mean superstructure? Because the whole hull has literally no armor, even against most t7
I really like the ferdinand, i dont know why people hate it, i would most of the time just go with heavies and act like a support frontline td for them.
If i remember correctly, i was grinding for jg pz e100, but jgpanther ll was so bad for me, that i bought ferdinand.
Ferdinand's stock grinding was painfull, with that slow engine.
But, when i got the cannon and engine unlocked, it wasnt such a problem it was before.
I dont know if this thing actually sucks, or im just good at playing it.
But in my opinion, its a pretty solid tier 8 td
The Ferdinand needs a strong buff, as of currently the JPanther 2 is better.
The Ferd was actually very good in '14-16....but it has been soooo power crept it's not even funny. The armor was the x factor before, but now everything can pen it easily.
Guess skills do matter in game even if the tank have bad stats
I got the STG for 3k in the auctions and still feel ripped off. The only thing it has going for it is the aim time, and it needs it with that shotgun level of dispersion.
You would have bought the T44 85 for 2000 gold
Top ten people who despise the ISU 130, number 1 Marti
STG has grille class aiming time but horible dispersion .360
agreed with all except isu-130 for me it's better then isu 152 because its a bit more mobile then 152 and the premium round is just heaven
The argument is you pay credits to deal 530, while 152 shoots 640 for free
@@ak_nora but that 640 is on a considerably less accurate platform... and takes a good bit longer to reload. IMO, ISU 130 doesn't fit the description of being a chassis that works against you with a gun that kicks ass. The gun kicks ass but the chassis is still the ISU hull that will troll block a lot of incoming shots and has a bit more mobility than the 152.
Being as good or better/worse than the 152 is subjective and not worth arguing about... being in the top 5 worst list when things like the FCM 50t, Super Pershing, T44-100, or IS2-SH, to name a few, exist, well, I have to agree with Cool Wind and a few others, is a travesty. It's a CHEAP premium that can bring home 3K without even working up a sweat.
I like to deal a lot of damage thats why i like isu-152
@@tricky48 include is3, the armor is bullshit
Isu130 has good gun handling and high dpm (particularly with prammo) and decent alpha. Disagree on that one, the others are pretty bad yeah. Honorable mentions are Is2sh, subpar pershing, t28, vk168, sta1, Is3
great videos and guides, thanks! suggestion... pls put in text, on the video or in the description, the names of the tanks you mention. sometimes newbies like me cant make out what you say :)
yeah this list is weird ngl. You often mention something along the lines of "why play this tank when this other tank does this job better". Which isn't really an argument for why the tank is bad, more just an argument for why there is a better tank than it.
Also the isu130 is a great tank (just because the gun has less alpha and pen doesn't make it bad, the gun handling and dpm when you're using the premium rounds [which you should be] make up for it), the ferdinand is a decent tank and the stg, while not great, is by far not the worst tier 8. It still has a workable turret. It still has a workable gun. It's got very good mobility. The sta-1 is far worse. It has none of those (except mediocre mobility for a tank with paper armour). The stg is also really fun if you know how to play it.
Man i want to get 263 but the gun depression of the su 101 is so horrible
It wont get better lol
Love that my name was in the list..... so worth the change!!!!
Well SU-130pm is worse than isu-130, at least to my opinion. It has limited turret traverse, mid gun depression, mid mobility, 0 armour, not impressively high penetration, longer reload for crappy alpha damage, small amount of shells stored, and not the best accuracy.
How many battles have you its the best t8 td the most TDs have no turret the mobility is good for a TD and the gun have very good accuracy with high alpha and good camo and in my opinion a TD with good mobility and good camo dont need armor
@@nicofeldmann9684 all u just listed the ISU130 also has... except for a turret. The isu130 also has great camo and is also mobile while having special prammo and being MORE accurate than the su130pm. And don't forget isu isn't a HE magnet.
@@Tankiboy_yt the Su-130PM have 6% more camo 200m better shellvelocity better pen on AP and Heat better aimtime its have more PS per ton and and a 140° turret the Su-130PM is the best t8 TD but this TD have a very high skillcap its not a tank for noobs or average players
@@nicofeldmann9684 at least ISU-130 has some armour and can take some high explosive, unlike SU-130pm which is hopeless against it. Also, not only some armour, the tank has reasonably fast reload as well which is good.
SU-130pm may has mobility and cammo, but it has shit gun, so not worth the trade with armour.
I am amazed that the infamous STA-1 is not on the list
The intro kinda good tho
If they just buff the standard pen of ISU like 30mm and incress the dpm by 400 it would be an amazing tank. Power creep matters
I have the hope that maybe with this video WG will buff any of these tanks. Like when you talked a lot about how bad is the Panther 2 but then WG buffed it by giving it more DPM and mobility.
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I get a kick out of your videos now.
It was an acquired taste though.
You do well for a young whippersnapper.
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Idk I think the t28 and t28 prot are pretty terrible too. The "armor" bounces nothing and the mobility is abysmal. Not to mention the gun is pretty bad for a t8 td as well.
T28 prot, sure its slow, but T28? Nah its like T28 prot but much better armor and mobility, they both have same tier 10 gun so its fine
thanks for the tips marti, i will remember these tanks against humanity and will definitely avoid them. 😅
STG has the distinction of being bad and hideous.
I absolutly disagree with you for the STG it has some armor but not ``literally no armor``, the mobility is okay and the gun's sweet
Should’ve been „no useable armor“. Turret armor and no gun depression makes it pointless in 90% of spots because you have to peak the hull anyway
When will you opened your sun glasses Mart 😎
No Centurion 1?
Would you compare STG and Skoda T56 in replies? I paid for Skoda (new gamer) and feels miserable playing that tank. The reload time is a massive let down.
hey marti. i got a vk90p free, should i sell it and buy something in t8?
NO DON'T. Vk 90 is one of the best t10 ht that can sidescrape. But if you really want your favourite t8 , then you can restore it later for 7500 gold.
VK 90 is a very good tank but I actually think you should wait until you see a really good tier 8 premium in the shop for 7500 gold and swap it so you can have fun and make credits. (DO NOT BUY A TECH TREE PREMIUM, IS 6, lowe, Super Pershing ETC)
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STG is one of my favorite tanks
It is scary that i will probably not live to see the eye reveal
you forgot the t 25 pilot 1
I love su 101 more than JP2 overall
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I`m surprised you didnt pick 5 TD`s. lol
the best intro ever
I'm officially Pikachu even in the outro members list ok Marty
i have the ferdi and the su 101 they are pure pain and i just am not using them until i get enough free xp to skip them
dont skip the SU 101, skip the ferdinand because its ass but play the 101, its really fun and the only thing holding it back is the gun depression.
@@marlinismosquitono my bad sorry it is quite fun playing the 101 with the gun just slapping i sold the ferdi cuz just too pain
Holy Hell that intro was traumatising
Panther 2 is great but 8.8 is prob not the same
This STGism needs to stop ✋🏻
I like the su 101. Needs a lot of skill. Sadly almost none of the players have that. Su 101 has a great gun with great mobility. The hp, gun depression and armour make it difficult to use. Terrible for bad players. However it has potential. There are tanks that you just cabt use for anything. Not the case for su 101.
Not everyone is skilled for a tank thar requires lot of skill thats why only less
For me the Ferdinand is good for gravity mode, it's the tortoise of tier VIII in that mode.
Otherwise I agree that the tank sucks.
Does anyone doing content for Wot b android game that isn't playing on a computer ?
Wotb is a multi platform game, and pc is both better to play on and easier to record too
Woah when did you do face reveal
Years ago, just not in videos
@@MarTimator Oh wow
I like the intro
Marti, in your tone of voice, you sometimes sound like sk8xtrem :D
I could do an entire video in a high pitched mickey mouse voice
Where is the american TD, the slow T28? This is a great bad Tank 😢
T28 prot?
@@Great_TOAST no, only T28
@@franzl.3624 I think T28 is better than T28 prot, same tier 10 gun, but faster mobility, T28 prot is goddam slow
@@Great_TOAST yes, of course ... But onestly... 2 very bad tank... 🤭
@@franzl.3624 Only T28 prot, T28 has really good armor for a td
best intro??
No beard?
T28 prototype..T28
I still love Ferdinand
I actually kinda like the stg
Lol Marti Nice intro
Worst is t32
I agree with you most of the time, but I am not going to be to concur with your opening statement /sign, as I 💔🐈
Frog
Nah!
The STG is good
STG is okay.
The rest I skimmed through with free xp
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You forgot is 3but holy shit it's worst then you know
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