"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive. Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house. "Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down. "Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup. If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff. You can use BackBlaze too. I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents. I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage". But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly. *As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of UA-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
I turned UA-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
UA-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind. Source: I made UA-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to UA-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do. Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses. I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device. Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files
Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
3:27 Why would you edit out the part where you slide the drive into the tray? Like, the potential benefit lost to the observers versus whatever it is you gained by removing the footage doesn't make sense?
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
wish this video mentioned what happens if my cell phone gets stolen: what happens if I try to access my NAS from a desktop but the 2FA is set up to call my phone? And other similar predicaments. . . .
what you are asking has nothing to do with this a NAS but more with 2FA. In any case, if you have 2FA set up on a phone and it gets stolen, you use the backup code your set up and reset your 2FA.
- 00:00 Backup is crucial. Importance of backup for data security. - 01:22 Own cloud storage. Risks of relying solely on external hard drives or cloud storage. - 02:32 Synology NAS simplicity. Solution: Creating personal cloud storage for data backup. - 05:31 Understanding RAID and Data Redundancy. RAID for redundancy. Options for setting up personal cloud storage: Synology NAS. - 07:47 Accessing and Utilizing Personal Cloud Storage. Synology Drive setup. Features and setup process of Synology NAS. - 09:18 Importance of enhancing security with two-factor authentication. - 11:05 Utilizing Synology Drive for automatic data backup and synchronization. - 13:14 Benefits of having personal cloud storage for family use.
Lost me at Ethernet port. Not having internet access in my apartment, how can I offload my phone’s photos and videos to either the ‘cloud’, an external storage device or both ? It’s an iPhone 10
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions….. Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device? I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant. I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
I have an office at two different buildings. My office desktop copies my entire user profile to my other office desktop every time my machines are shut down. Both machines are on the same WAN I created a .bat file that first cleans up all .temp files and caches. Maps to the target folder. Copies all files that have been modified since my last backup, disconnects all mapped drives and forces a shutdown of the desktop.. This happens at 5:00pm every day . Both machines already had 2 /500 gig SSD Drives so all it cost me was 10 minutes to write a .bat script.
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
so this is no different on cloud? since you still giving your data to have an access. And why do you only have 1 external hd? Most people will buy 2-3 external to make sure that their data are safe? $600 for that? You could bought like 20 1tb of external hard disks for that and use it to back up all of your file.
Ive been running a DS920+ for years and have several other user, 16 to be exact. Most use synology photos to backup their phones. I also have 2 other offsite nas to backup my nas too.
@Steven for years? i was interested to setup a 50TB NAS, but i did some research and it seems like i might need to change the HDD's every 5 year or so. it seems very expensive.
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
Does this backup photos with all the meta data? One of my issues with other back up services is that it never saves the file data, and so the location and date and time is always lost.
This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?
1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit. 2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it. There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things: 1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version. 2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it. 3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see. so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
I have never used Cloud Storage. I do all my backups and save media only on external SSD 5GB or higher in capacity. You could do the same using flash drives but those have limited life about 100 writes or so if I remember it correctly. I look for something more permanent and I try to save some of my backups off site (Public storage for non privacy related data. And bank safety deposit box for privacy related data), in case of fire. I don't want to lose any data at all. Is this a sound technique? I believe it is my opinion.
> about 100 writes or so You're mixing up the limitations somewhat. A flash drive is made up of memory cells, and each cell can only be written a finite number of times. About 100,000 times depending on the quality of drive. However, if you write file A, then file B, maybe only 40% of the bytes have changed. So you're only writing to different cells. This means a flash drive can be used many, many times. By the time each cell has been written to 100,000 times, that's a lot of rewrites.
@@chrisjlocke Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I got some mis-information from our IT guy at work. My neighbor who has been in IT for over 40 yrs, He said something similar to your info. Should have just listened to him and let it ride. Also I made a typo in my former statement. I meant to say 5TB or higher not 5GB. But all in all Still like having multiple backups and in different locations.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
You still need an offsite back up in an event that your house burns down or the NAS getting stolen etc. You also need the most important files with you on a flash storage and another one that is offsite just in case you are cut off from the internet.
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
My question is; how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.
How about someone breaks into your house and steal the device or there is a fire and all your data is gone ? So this is why I prefer clouds. And all the sensitive data in cloud I encrypt. And yes Im using 2 different cloud service providers.
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
What if someone breaks in and steals the unit? Your data is gone even if its encrypted. I would still backup everything on the NAS to the cloud at least annually or to an airgap drive and store in a bank vault or someplace secure.
OK. I love your stuff and bought this NAS and did all what you say here. That all worked. Now I'm stuck..... Synology is not 'basic' user friendly. Its help menus assume an advanced level of IT know-how. Can you share a UA-cam on ' How I get my folders from my PC to the NAS'? The Synology UA-cams do not help. Thanks
@@LironSegevThanks for the quick response. I'm thinking of getting a beginner NAS, single bay backup. The Synology DS120J, single bay enclosure, looks like the right fit. Any thoughts on that model? Or which version would you recommend for a beginner?
My first one was the DS218+ which I still have running today. I would recommend something with 2 bays so that you can have that hard drive redundancy - just incase one fails you don't lose all your data.
I have an old Iomega drive that's about 20 years old. I stop using it about 10 years ago. Now I cant access anything on it because my computer wont recognize any of the files. All I get is a bunch of code at best. There should be a law against storage devices become obsolete, and company's charging you to access files just because they're old.
Suggest which software I should use to have this feature: I have a laptop with a 500 GB hard disk. I have an external hard disk of 2 TB. I have a folder named DataA on my laptop with 475 GB of data consisting of folders and files. I want to move everything to DataB on the external hard disk. However, I should only see shortcuts in DataA for all folders, subfolders, files, and subfiles in the same hierarchy in DataB. Additionally, whenever I save any folder or file to DataA, it should upload to the external hard disk folder DataB automatically and save only a shortcut in DataA. Optionally, I should also be able to store specific files and folders (not shortcuts) in the folder DataA on my laptop. This software should be similar to OneDrive, but it should not use the cloud; instead, it should use my personal external hard disk, which is offline.
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
Hello I really like your videos, I have a question for you there are like 3 models Synology DS423, vs DS923 and DS920 you recommend and the second question what happens if someone steels le your Device, this means you loose all your data? Thank you very Much.
If I were doing it I would use only solid state drives. Spinning mechanical Drive seem to fail about every 18 months not to mention they use a lot of electricity and they get hot.
I have never known hard drives to have a failure rate of every 18 months. I have instead had them last 10 years or more most of the time. In the last 25 years, I have had 3 hard drives fail after 8 years of usage. That's three out of over 500 computers that I was responsible for.
@@jdilksjr I've burned through hundreds of hard drives since the 1980s. On average, the Seagates and WDs fail about every 18 months. I had banks of them in RAID configurations for video production. Then about 2015, I built a new workstation with 100% SSD drives. Even more storage capacity and up to ten drives per workstation. In 2018, I built another workstation with SSD drives. So far, no SSDs have failed in 24/7 operation, while I've had two external portable USB drives fail on my (mechanical drives).
It's tedious, but I have 4 external HDs and my computer is wired. Every time I edit a document, I copy it and just drop it into each HD. I've been doing it so long, it comes natural and only takes about 10 seconds. One of my drives is only for very important documents and the others are for everything. I have subfolders for my most used documents so it's organized You think I'm crazy?? maybe I am, but it's worked for 20 years. I admit - this device he's promoting does look interesting. I may check it out.. . . . I went to the link - looked all over for a price and order form but couldn't find it. If it takes that long to find a price it's not for me. I'll stick to my ancient method
There are two way to do this Automatically. One is FileSync, it has an automation module that will continally sync two drives/folders or you could use Windows File History which not only backs up the files but keeps ALL previous revisions/verions of the files up to a predefined number.
"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive.
Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house.
"Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down.
"Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup.
If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff.
You can use BackBlaze too.
I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents.
I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage".
But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
EXACTLY
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
Time 0:42 How to encrypt the External SSD drive
Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
@@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!
Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ?
For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.
Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
This is why you use a mix of both if you want to be completely secure. I mostly use cloud storage as backup, but now I'm making a NAS so I can free up some cloud storage and in case the cloud provider goes under, I have my own backup. And even with a NAS I'm going to put my most important files on portable drives which I can store in a drawer.
Exactly. cloud storage is safer.
@@sidbrun_ how much do u pay for cloud storage and how many GB storage do u get
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
@@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly.
*As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
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I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of UA-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud
I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.
I LOVE Liron Segev and his channel. I have learned SO MUCH from him, I would be totally lost otherwise. Thank you very much!!
Great to hear!
I subscribed today, thanks for the confirm.
I turned UA-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
You're so smart.
UA-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind.
Source: I made UA-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
Thanks for sharing this great tip!! You're doing the lord's work my dude LOL
I do mine in Facebook messenger
@@McLovinsFunhouse There is a way to retreve the original files you uploaded to UA-cam, the only downside to that is the only option you get is to download literally everything
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do.
Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses.
I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device.
Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.
Cost is too high, instead of that I will buy 3 wd passport 4 tb each will cost max 342 usd. I can do 3 copy of my same data.
It is absolutely incredible how many companies have multiple (different areas of the company) single points of failure and do nothing about them.
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
awesome
why so secretive...😂😆
@@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
I don't think people forget that. It's just a matter of feasibility.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
The whole reason I don't use cloud. I prefer old school double backup
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
Perfect
So with this, should I delete my cloud storage AND stop using Apple's Time Machine?
Data can be recovered by the forensic tools in kali Linux, its probley the electronics thats given up the disc should be all good as long you wind the reader arm correctly and not scratch the disc. it can then be removed fited to a working drive where you can remove your files
not really something that just anyone can do 😂 I guess that is why companies charge a fortune to recover data from broken drives....
Do I and can I power off the NAS like my laptop every night? I can’t trust electronics powered on 24/7… thanks for any help
You can but obviously no backups will be done then
2:43 info from
Can you make a video explaining how having internet access to your nas is secure? Mostly everyone advises against that so i have not opened mine up to that.
Ikr. Just use cloud storage services at that point.
Greetings form South Africa. I always backup my data to 2 external drives. Two copies then exist. One drive is off site at my work and one drive at home.
nice! with Eishkom you need to keep your data backed up so it doesnt become corrupt when you loose power....again and again
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪
3:27 Why would you edit out the part where you slide the drive into the tray?
Like, the potential benefit lost to the observers versus whatever it is you gained by removing the footage doesn't make sense?
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
100% there is so much stuff in there!
Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.
What is the subscription cost to use the cloud software?
wish this video mentioned what happens if my cell phone gets stolen: what happens if I try to access my NAS from a desktop but the 2FA is set up to call my phone? And other similar predicaments. . . .
what you are asking has nothing to do with this a NAS but more with 2FA. In any case, if you have 2FA set up on a phone and it gets stolen, you use the backup code your set up and reset your 2FA.
- 00:00 Backup is crucial. Importance of backup for data security.
- 01:22 Own cloud storage. Risks of relying solely on external hard drives or cloud storage.
- 02:32 Synology NAS simplicity. Solution: Creating personal cloud storage for data backup.
- 05:31 Understanding RAID and Data Redundancy. RAID for redundancy. Options for setting up personal cloud storage: Synology NAS.
- 07:47 Accessing and Utilizing Personal Cloud Storage. Synology Drive setup. Features and setup process of Synology NAS.
- 09:18 Importance of enhancing security with two-factor authentication.
- 11:05 Utilizing Synology Drive for automatic data backup and synchronization.
- 13:14 Benefits of having personal cloud storage for family use.
Lost me at Ethernet port. Not having internet access in my apartment, how can I offload my phone’s photos and videos to either the ‘cloud’, an external storage device or both ? It’s an iPhone 10
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.
Sorry guys I’m really new to this. Literally started looking into something like this today. I have some questions…..
Do you have to pay for the NAS service to get access to your files from your mobile device?
I guess I’m asking, what’s the start up cost for something like this?
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant.
I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
Meanwhile :- thief break in your house and steal this NAS system💀💀💀.
Yeah, you silly ppl in US have so funny glass front doors...
Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
This is for real handy solution. I am using two memory drives to back up my data.
So you can actually can put hard drive of any memory?
I have an office at two different buildings. My office desktop copies my entire user profile to my other office desktop every time my machines are shut down. Both machines are on the same WAN I created a .bat file that first cleans up all .temp files and caches. Maps to the target folder. Copies all files that have been modified since my last backup, disconnects all mapped drives and forces a shutdown of the desktop.. This happens at 5:00pm every day . Both machines already had 2 /500 gig SSD
Drives so all it cost me was 10 minutes to write a .bat script.
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.
@@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.
@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
Surge protection outlets. fireproof safe.
so this is no different on cloud? since you still giving your data to have an access. And why do you only have 1 external hd? Most people will buy 2-3 external to make sure that their data are safe? $600 for that? You could bought like 20 1tb of external hard disks for that and use it to back up all of your file.
Ive been running a DS920+ for years and have several other user, 16 to be exact. Most use synology photos to backup their phones. I also have 2 other offsite nas to backup my nas too.
Nice! 🔥 🔥 🔥
@Steven for years? i was interested to setup a 50TB NAS, but i did some research and it seems like i might need to change the HDD's every 5 year or so. it seems very expensive.
I love mine! I have 4 12TBs. No such thing as "too much space."
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
@@LironSegev THANK YOU!
I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe
You can use any drives of any size. You can mix them up too so they don't have to be same speed. Watch the video again. Literally said that.
very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!
Flawed advice. Agree with the Synology or similar NAS device like QNAP but 1. You don't need a 4 bay NAS costing a fortune (feel like he was obligated to promote this as video was sponsored by Synology but they have much better priced single bay NAS) 2. You can use OneDrive which is simple to use from mobiles and PCs and then have Synology sync OneDrive or Google drive to NAS. Now you have data in cloud and NAS. A fatal flaw in this suggestion is what if someone breaks in and steals your NAS or you knock it off the table, power surge, or your kid breaks it. It's the same as your portable drive crashing. Rather have data in the cloud and backed up to NAS
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
When making your own cloud storage how would one opt for one that isn't non-physical?
Does this backup photos with all the meta data? One of my issues with other back up services is that it never saves the file data, and so the location and date and time is always lost.
It's your own server so whatever you have on your comouter gets backed up.
What sort of budget do you need for this? Say I need 4TB of redundant storage
This is a great video thank you I have two questions. Does this work on Mac? I assume it does the other bigger question is why aren’t they using SSD drives? Or not SSD drives much faster and more efficient?
yes it does and you can choose whatever storage option you want. You don't have to use the drives I showed you. This model can also handle NVMe SSD
@@LironSegev thank you that’s great news. I assume it’s got some slots on it where you can insert SSD drives.
Yup. The bays have screws for smaller dives. Just make sure the model you get can support SSD. They have a chart in their website
1. Most Synology NAS models only use SSD for caching purposes; they cannot be used as part of the storage pool. I believe that TerraMaster, a smaller less well known brand that also manufactures decent NAS appliances, allows one to use SSDs in any way he/she sees fit.
2. You probably don't want to use a SSD in these anyway as they typically wear down over time after a certain number of read/write operations which makes them not particularly desirable for long term storage purposes. See SSD Wear Indicator for further info on this. Not that HDDs don't suffer from similar issues; they do - some manufacturers such as Seagate even provide things like health management NAS plug-ins for their IronWolf line of drives to allow you to keep tabs on that - but not to the same extent.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it.
There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things:
1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version.
2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it.
3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see.
so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
Can you use as file server? public? - where you just send a link, "Ipaddress/files/test.rar for example?
yes!
@@LironSegev thanks! I will get one, awesome content, very professional subscribed and sharing 👍🏻
@@DrakeTDI can't wait to hear all about it! 🔥
How much is the monthly/yearly fees? can't see it on their website🤔🤨
there is none. Its a once off purchase and all the software is free
@@LironSegev Cool, thanks mate👍
Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
No encryption or even e2e encryption option? Sata buffer?
I have never used Cloud Storage. I do all my backups and save media only on external SSD 5GB or higher in capacity. You could do the same using flash drives but those have limited life about 100 writes or so if I remember it correctly. I look for something more permanent and I try to save some of my backups off site (Public storage for non privacy related data. And bank safety deposit box for privacy related data), in case of fire. I don't want to lose any data at all. Is this a sound technique? I believe it is my opinion.
> about 100 writes or so
You're mixing up the limitations somewhat. A flash drive is made up of memory cells, and each cell can only be written a finite number of times. About 100,000 times depending on the quality of drive. However, if you write file A, then file B, maybe only 40% of the bytes have changed. So you're only writing to different cells. This means a flash drive can be used many, many times. By the time each cell has been written to 100,000 times, that's a lot of rewrites.
@@chrisjlocke Thanks for clearing that up. I guess I got some mis-information from our IT guy at work. My neighbor who has been in IT for over 40 yrs, He said something similar to your info. Should have just listened to him and let it ride. Also I made a typo in my former statement. I meant to say 5TB or higher not 5GB. But all in all Still like having multiple backups and in different locations.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.
Thanks!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
I think you know something about this technology but do you know what is end to end encryption?
Not Cloud Storage. It’s in your house, house burns down GOODBYE DATA
Fire proof safe with data port.
I only went 6mins into the vid but that's what's I was thinking. How's this cloud storage when it's stored locally?
@@gwaeron8630 how do have the Nas in a fireproof safe and accessible by your computers
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
bro if ur house burns down everything's loss. You'll prop be least worry about ur data then.😊
any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations
What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏
You still need an offsite back up in an event that your house burns down or the NAS getting stolen etc. You also need the most important files with you on a flash storage and another one that is offsite just in case you are cut off from the internet.
Yup. See pinned comment
I don't have one 😭 how much do they cost?
Would you consider making a video on the harder way i brought myself a r710 and wanting to control my own data.
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
I had an external drive before. It stopped working. Took it to Frys back in the day, and I was out of luck. 😢
Well, how does the problems of having a hard drive backup be any different for this setup. The hatdware can fail, be stolen,etc
My question is;
how do i backup the files on each computer (5x) in a small network but make clients have no access or limited access to Synology in order to protect the backup.
You run the backup client software on each device and set permissions on the NAS software
How about someone breaks into your house and steal the device or there is a fire and all your data is gone ? So this is why I prefer clouds. And all the sensitive data in cloud I encrypt. And yes Im using 2 different cloud service providers.
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
What size drive(s) can each slot hold and can they be SSD?
What if someone breaks in and steals the unit? Your data is gone even if its encrypted. I would still backup everything on the NAS to the cloud at least annually or to an airgap drive and store in a bank vault or someplace secure.
Yeah,
Deep glacier in Amazon + a few of your own LTO9s is the gold standard for data storage
OK. I love your stuff and bought this NAS and did all what you say here. That all worked. Now I'm stuck..... Synology is not 'basic' user friendly. Its help menus assume an advanced level of IT know-how. Can you share a UA-cam on ' How I get my folders from my PC to the NAS'? The Synology UA-cams do not help. Thanks
So how if those NAS also broken? isn't it have the similar component with HDD right?
A Home cloud backup system is the way to go. NAS, HDD or SSD. Who wants their private files on some corporate server that can get hacked.
I got a buffalo nas for 70 off a sale site. Got some drives off Amazon. I use it for home stuff as well as back up my phones to it.
Nice
To be more secure get a second NAS and install it in your parents house or some other family member's and have back up the one NAS to the second one.
100% - see pinned comment!
Great video. Can a NAS be set up wirelessly? Or does it always have to be plugged into the router via Ethernet?
I believe you can if you add a WIFI dongle to the USB port - kb.synology.com/en-au/DSM/help/DSM/AdminCenter/connection_network_wireless?version=6
@@LironSegevThanks for the quick response. I'm thinking of getting a beginner NAS, single bay backup. The Synology DS120J, single bay enclosure, looks like the right fit. Any thoughts on that model?
Or which version would you recommend for a beginner?
My first one was the DS218+ which I still have running today. I would recommend something with 2 bays so that you can have that hard drive redundancy - just incase one fails you don't lose all your data.
@@LironSegev Thanks again, I'll look into it.
I have an old Iomega drive that's about 20 years old. I stop using it about 10 years ago. Now I cant access anything on it because my computer wont recognize any of the files.
All I get is a bunch of code at best.
There should be a law against storage devices become obsolete, and company's charging you to access files just because they're old.
Suggest which software I should use to have this feature:
I have a laptop with a 500 GB hard disk.
I have an external hard disk of 2 TB.
I have a folder named DataA on my laptop with 475 GB of data consisting of folders and files.
I want to move everything to DataB on the external hard disk.
However, I should only see shortcuts in DataA for all folders, subfolders, files, and subfiles in the same hierarchy in DataB.
Additionally, whenever I save any folder or file to DataA, it should upload to the external hard disk folder DataB automatically and save only a shortcut in DataA.
Optionally, I should also be able to store specific files and folders (not shortcuts) in the folder DataA on my laptop.
This software should be similar to OneDrive, but it should not use the cloud; instead, it should use my personal external hard disk, which is offline.
What about decentralized storage like "STORJ"? And thanks for the video. I didn't know about NAS.
Is it waterproof and fireproof like a black box? I thought so.
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.
Hello I really like your videos, I have a question for you there are like 3 models Synology DS423, vs DS923 and DS920 you recommend and the second question what happens if someone steels le your Device, this means you loose all your data? Thank you very Much.
Appreciate you being here 🔥 to answer your question, see pinned comment.
Thank you.
If I were doing it I would use only solid state drives. Spinning mechanical Drive seem to fail about every 18 months not to mention they use a lot of electricity and they get hot.
I have never known hard drives to have a failure rate of every 18 months. I have instead had them last 10 years or more most of the time. In the last 25 years, I have had 3 hard drives fail after 8 years of usage. That's three out of over 500 computers that I was responsible for.
@@jdilksjr I've burned through hundreds of hard drives since the 1980s. On average, the Seagates and WDs fail about every 18 months. I had banks of them in RAID configurations for video production. Then about 2015, I built a new workstation with 100% SSD drives. Even more storage capacity and up to ten drives per workstation. In 2018, I built another workstation with SSD drives.
So far, no SSDs have failed in 24/7 operation, while I've had two external portable USB drives fail on my (mechanical drives).
It's tedious, but I have 4 external HDs and my computer is wired. Every time I edit a document, I copy it and just drop it into each HD. I've been doing it so long, it comes natural and only takes about 10 seconds. One of my drives is only for very important documents and the others are for everything. I have subfolders for my most used documents so it's organized You think I'm crazy?? maybe I am, but it's worked for 20 years. I admit - this device he's promoting does look interesting. I may check it out.. . . . I went to the link - looked all over for a price and order form but couldn't find it. If it takes that long to find a price it's not for me. I'll stick to my ancient method
There are two way to do this Automatically. One is FileSync, it has an automation module that will continally sync two drives/folders or you could use Windows File History which not only backs up the files but keeps ALL previous revisions/verions of the files up to a predefined number.
How about hybrid cloud with Google drive and Synology