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"what if your house burns down or NAS is stolen" - Most of us connect an external drive to the NAS, back up the important data to it automatically, and then put it in a Fireproof & Waterproof safe along with our passports/ wills and other important stuff. Rotate it with last month's backup drive.
Don't have a safe? keep the external drive in your car/ parent's house.
"Cloud providers, they don't go down" - eh... nope. Just google "google services down" and see that 3 days ago (at the time of writing this) it was down.
"Can you backup the NAS offsite?" - 100% - you can do a NAS-to-NAS backup. So you take your nas and it gets backed up to your NAS located in your office or your parent's house. In fact, you can set up the NAS for your parents/ brothers/ sisters and you become each other's backup.
If you want to, use CloudSyc to back up your data from your NAS to the Cloud and visa versa. So when Google goes down, or if you are locked out of your Google account, you can still access your stuff.
You can use BackBlaze too.
I want MY data to remain under MY control. If you don't and trust Cloud providers, by all means - you do that. Just please back up your stuff - and NOT just your documents.
I have been in this industry for a long time and I 100% know that the same people who come up with all the excuses of why "on prem NAS is a bad idea", are the same people who will bitch and moan WHEN they lose their data and have to rebuild their entire system because they only backed up some data so they can make use of the "free storage".
But hey, you can use whatever you want - there is no one-solution-fits-all.
EXACTLY
Or, I could use the storage that comes with my MS Office account. It doesn't cost me more, their servers would be pretty hard to steal, and if their server building burns down they probably have a back up of that....
I do a combo of Synology Drive and then backup crucial data using AWS Glacier
Some people don’t have living parents or family members that they could (or would want) to store data at. So for some people this idea is more challenging and more of an expense as now you are talking about renting a storage unit or safety deposit box and making regular trips to them to swap drives. But….what if you have no transportation or mobility or the finances to do that?
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Unfortunately, my house burned down in 2021. My family and I are fine, but we lost almost everything. Fortunately, my data is backed up on the cloud and it was hassle-free to access my data. NAS systems are great for those who can afford it, but it IS a physical system you must maintain and it's vulnerable to fire, natural disasters, and theft. Cloud storage is off-site and that's the biggest selling point for me. I'll stick with my external hard drive and my cloud storage option. It works for me.
Cloud Storage are physical data storage facilities that are also at risk to electrical fires, natural disasters, terrorism etc… The solution is to have dual storage setups at different physical locations. Homeowners should have fire rated storage boxes/safes where you can keep your hard-drives.
There's nothing wrong with local NAS and cloud backup. The cloud backup would be your offsite NAS. Your local NAS can still handle all of your needs with the added advantage of you being to control the data the way you want. Cloud services can have some funky rules, especially when it comes to how you share data with others.
@@keithsmith3118 It's just too expensive for large amounts of data but for local, critical files, absolutely!
Do you mean houses get burnt every month or is it a rare occurrence ?
For my work I run 3 local machines holding 3 copies with ZFS raidz1 file system.
Fire, flooding, theft….now you have a device that needs protection from all three…….I agree with your strategy and sorry you lost your home in 2021
That's why I wish they never got rid of DVDs. The DVD media itself isn't prone to shocks, floods, hackers, malware, extreme temps, or data depletion. Only scratches and fire. DVD's, if kept safely and securely, can lasts 100yrs. I saved all my pictures on dvd in the early years. I just wished they improved it. Imagine 100gb Dvd that are as fast as ssd.
The claim that they last eternally is contingent upon the integrity of the reflective layer. If that flakes or chips, you're dead. Who knows how long they will last, and moreover, whether you will ever be able to locate a working device to mount them?
Who is they? You can still use recordable DVD. As for improvements, although I haven't used them yet, there's the M-DISC recordable DVDs. Recordable Blu-ray (BD-R) does 25GB on a single layer disc, 50GB on a 2 layer disc, BDXL uses 3 and 4 layers to extend the capacity to 100GB & 128GB. Except for the 128GB version, these are also in M-DISC.
Problem with blu-rays and DVDs is they're unfortunately quite small for a data hoarder use case. Tape on the other hand can be that ultimate archival storage - it can store truly enormous amounts of data, last decades and be much cheaper than any other existing media (e.g. one cassette costing several $10 can store multiple TBs of data). This is also what cloud providers use for their cheap "archival" class storage (but unfortunately charge premium when you need to restore..)
DVDs as well as CDs suffer from disc rot caused by more than just fire and scratches e.g. UV damage, oxidation of the reflective layer, de-bonding of the adhesive used in layers (extreme temps of or - could cause this) but the fact they could barely handle being loose in a bag for 1 day meant they were always destined for the e-waste pile.
@@TechSway Agreed. And every type of storage media has its weak points, there's no one size that fits all.
For anyone at higher risk (of theft or natural disaster, for example), it is sensible to employ both local and cloud backup solutions.
true - that is ideal. But a fireproof safe with a network port takes care of that 👍
@Jason Westaway ja its just beyond ridiculous now
@@LironSegev I can't find one. Suggestions/recommendations?
So true. Cloud usually has file versions so if corrupted or encrypted files (virus related) get synced to local backup you can use the cloud to restore the files.
Exactly! A local NAS provides no local redundancy. So when your house burns down/floods out/is otherwise destroyed, your data is gone with it. That’s the whole reason you have a backup, and a local copy does nothing to protect you. Plus you don’t have to maintain a service. Just pay a bill. Drive failures, data corruption, electricity/cooling/rent/noise all someone else’s problem.
Pick your provider carefully. Ensure you have the level of security and privacy that you desire, and just pay a bill.
A few years ago, I had set up something comparable. However, both hard disks were damaged by an unfortunate lightning surge, resulting in their failure. Therefore, I chose to continue using cloud storage.
I had the same, my NAS ran on it's own OS and it died, fortunately I was able to remove the HDD and, eventually, with a lot help from University Google was able to retrieve most of the data. Now I'm totally won on Cloud storage.
Unfortunately I am one of the few that couldn't afford the price for this so what I ended up doing instead is I own probably 5 backup HDD's that are encrypted and I use a simple adapter to copy/transfer all my files to every single drive and then put each drive in a locked, fire/water proof safe. Tedious but works like a charm. For my phone however I back it up to my pc or keep files local that I need but also I am one of the few that rarely leaves my home. Great video though as I have been wondering about this. Tired of Google Drive and am really not liking or trusting Google Photos as much anymore. I only put what I am willing to lose on those with zero personal info and back it up to the hdds weekly.
*As a side note I also have 3 backup clone drives for my pc specifically. Something very few people I personally know do. Its amazing how many people get so upset when their hdd or ssd fails and their computer doesn't boot anymore and wonder what to do. I work on pcs all the time and these are amongst the most common calls for service.
Synology has a ton of way more affordable options on their site that you should look into. They make it super accessible for anyone trying to get into NAS.
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Great to hear!
@@LironSegev At 4:35 I saw "! All your data will be deleted and is irreversible!"
Could please elaborate what this means? It had to do with the start of software install I think but I'm not very familiar with this topic. I do get that this is physical back-up vs cloud tho.
It is absolutely incredible how many companies have multiple (different areas of the company) single points of failure and do nothing about them.
I got one a couple of years ago. The setup is a little more complicated than how you explained it. There are several channels dedicated to NAS usage that show you step by step setup. I also spent Covid copying all of my movies onto the NAS and setup Plex.
The software have come a long way in a couple of years - so what used to be a lot more complicated, is now literally the wizard. You just need to go through it. This isn't meant to be a step-by-step guide but an option for people's data storage.
Does the Plex work directly from the NAS? I would love that. I have a small business and a personal use for such a system.
@Michael Sechler Plex runs on the NAS, and then you can view it on any device that runs the plex app. When you rip your media, just make sure you name it like plex likes it. It saves some time when plex identifies it. There are a lot of UA-cam videos about setting up plex on a nas.
Does it have 256 bit encryption? From debice to storage cloud
Their software has definitely come a ways. When I set up my DS220j a couple years ago I had no idea what I was doing. I have it as my backup storage for Time Machine and it acts as a de facto media server. I'm sure it's capable of more as there are a ton of apps I'm currently not using.
100% there is so much stuff in there!
I use Synology as a file sync and file sharing solution for most of my clients. All clients also use Synology C2 offsite cloud storage to ensure that data is always redundant.
I like the control and ability to setup customized retention policies vs. off the shelf cloud providers.
Nice video. I also use Synology - the NAS DS220j two bay. But, online cloud backup with DropBox or similar is super easy, so you can easily do both. I even backup to an external hard drive every week that I store in one of those fireproof envelopes. So my laptop data gets backed up to Synology once an hour, DropBox cloud in real time, and to an external HD every week or so. Therefore there are "4 instances of all my files". For data that I keep "off my laptop" I use the NAS as primary and Synology will sync the off laptop data to BackBlaze cloud and I also back up the NAS off laptop data to an external HD so there are 3 instances of all of my "off laptop" data.
Meanwhile :- thief break in your house and steal this NAS system💀💀💀.
Thankfully the African Americans that are currently kicking doors are not interested in this kind of tech.
Great video! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, having a reliable backup power source is crucial. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option. With its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets, it's perfect for powering all our devices during our outdoor adventures. Thanks for sharing this recommendation!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the video! I completely agree that having a reliable backup power source is crucial, especially during outdoor adventures. The Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series seems like a fantastic option with its massive capacity, fast recharging, and versatile sockets. It's definitely worth considering for powering all our devices while camping or spending quality family time. Thanks for the recommendation!
You have not solved the original issue you addressed at the beginning of this video. How are you protecting your files against fire, water damage or theft? Without a regular offsite storage solution, you are still at risk for data loss.
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Create your own storage system is still a single point of failure. If stolen you have nothing.
Here the reason to use cloud storage: your stuff is backed up with minimal effort, for a set fee.
You don’t need to worry about drives failing (or having the skills to rebuild a raid). You also never have to remember to plug anything in. If your house is destroyed, or devices stollen, you still have your data.
I’m not saying that a NAS is a bad idea, but for the average person that struggles to operate an iPhone, paying for cloud storage and loading an app to automatically backup your data every time you turn your devices on, a cloud solution is a much better solution. A local NAS in hour house is great until it’s hit by a tornado, hurricane, fire or flood. Are those odds low? Maybe, but isn’t that the reason why you have a backup anyway?
I’m sure you could probably talk your mom or friend into letting you set up a mirrored site for your data…but now all your data is sitting at someone else’s house…and isn’t that your whole argument against cloud storage to begin with….it’s someone else’s computer???
Thank you! Agree 100%. My house burned down and we lost almost everything in it. Unfortunately, this happens. Also, not everyone can afford a NAS system. The one in this video is on Amazon is $599 - not including the external hard drives to provide the actual storage
Downside of cloud storage - it is someone else's computer, they can have an issue and lose everything, they can delete all your stuff, missing paying your scheduled payment, gone. If you argue with them, they might get give you a month free storage or refund your last month - it has happened multiple times in the past and will happen again in the future. Unfortunately, you need a mix of technologies but this is outside most people who don't work in IT's skillset to implement
@@ancipital it’s pretty much always someone else’s computer if you want geo- redundancy though, unless you are rich enough to own multiple homes.
Agreed. Ppl that burn their house down or struggle with their phones shouldn’t attempt a NAS setup.
I have two NAS devices although I don't use them very often. But in the decade or so that I've used cloud storage, I have yet to experience down time or lost data. I get that having your own NAS allows control but it's not without its flaws. If the system board should die, can drives be dropped into another NAS and be expected to just work or do they get reformatted? If you use 3 or more drives in a striped array and one drive dies, then what? In a mirrored array you can rebuild the array and move on but in a striped array, isn't the data lost?
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I agree with you that I would like to have the DATA on a RELIABLE DRIVE I HAVE ACCESS TO. I believe that the better thing to do it automatically back it up to a second off-site (maybe at your parents house) drive and in some case even on a third overseas location if you have a relative or friend available over there. What do you suggest?
That's what I do.
Instead of this, not that easy-peasy system, I have 4 external hard drives in two different houses.
I'm not a tech kid, who is able to remove my internal hard drive from my device.
Also, the hard drives in the devices I use (smartphone, tablet and laptop) are not removable.
Hi Liron Segev,
Great video. I have two questions:
1. How is this product different from WD Cloud products? I had one of those WD cloud products that failed during the pandemic and it costed me an arm and a leg to get my data back.
2. I have some SATA HDD from previous computers, can use those in this device?
I will only ever use cloud storage backup. I’m never buying a hard drive and leaving it in my room and having to remember to back up to it. Hard drives fail all the time.
I think you missed the entire point of the video. But ok 🤪
After watching this video, I think you're right that most people should have a Synology. So, I jumped out on your links and am looking at how much Synology you said is. Thanks.
I turned UA-cam in a free cloud service by creating a backup channel where I uploaded all my home videos (terabytes of content!) which I then set to private. Doing the same with a regular cloud service would cost a lot of money in monthly fees.
You're so smart.
UA-cam compresses those videos like a mf so quality won't be there as original files, even if you download them. I guess it works since there's really no chance of those videos ever dissapearing but just keep that in mind.
Source: I made UA-cam videos for many years learned very quickly how having a local copy of my videos was always important in case I needed to reupload or if I wanted to retain original quality.
A NAS/Server = not a substitute for a backup, times a backup of your DATA on your NAS/Server ANYTIME and use the 3-2-1 method to store it.
There are MANY BACKUP methods, HD's is the cheapest method at the moment, TAPE is the safest for long-term storage.
Great vid mate. For a beginner who wants go backup mainly photos and videos on my phone etc, which of those u linked would u recommend? Thanks!
This is exactly the system I have. I can be on vacation and my photos get backed up to my RAID half way around the world.
Thanks for this video, very interesting and well pesented! I myself use restic in combination with naeon to store my backup (chunks) in untrusted environments like the cloud. That way I avoid having to depend on the cloud hosting provider when it comes to proper encryption key management.
Cost is too high, instead of that I will buy 3 wd passport 4 tb each will cost max 342 usd. I can do 3 copy of my same data.
I was disappointed to learn how expensive this system is to obtain & put into operation. Well, I figure I will need to continue w/cloud storage.
Curious if it provides client-side encryption or not. Would be great if I could setup my own encryption keys so Synology or anyone else does not have access to my data.
Great video! Love NAS drives, got 5 of them, loads of redundancy, remote access, all encrypted yada yada. BUT.... _any_ on premise backup solution is still a single point of failure. Your house gets burgled, flooded or goes up in flames - you'll wish you had off premise cloud storage 😉
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
House fires in the UK are common. People use chip pans a lot, knock 'em over and set their kitchen on fire.
@@LironSegev mine did a few years ago. Lost a lot of crucial data.
@@texanfournow Who the heck stores their NAS on the floor?
@@chrisjlocke At first I assumed you were talking nonsense, as I have never owned a chip pan and haven't seen once since the 1970s, but I've just read that every year there are 12,000 chip pan fires in the UK. That's horrendous!
"There are only 10 kinds of people - those that have lost data, and those that will". I've been saying that for the last 11000+ years.
People seem to forget one very good reason for NOT using "cloud storage". Your data is on somebody else's computer. Apple devices are always nagging me to set up "cloud storage". No thanks, you already do your best to lock up my data on a device I own (ostensibly), and it seems Microsoft is doing the same by encrypting your data on your hard drive but keeping the decrypt key firmly with them. If I need to store data I do it on at least one external drive and a memory stick just to be sure.
I don't think people forget that. It's just a matter of feasibility.
Well, there are advantages in relying on a professional service versus having to keep everything yourself. And you can always encrypt your data yourself, either at rest using something like VeraCrypt or on the fly using rclone, and then use the public cloud just for storage of the encrypted data and nothing else achieving a true zero trust architecture. In this scenario the keys remain with you and you alone.
The whole reason I don't use cloud. I prefer old school double backup
Yep, people overlook it too easily. They are too quick to trust corporations with their data because they are blinded by the technical prowess. Fact of the matter is: Nobody cares more about your data's security, integrity, and availability than you do. If your lifetime worth of priceless data suddenly goes missing or you lose access to your account and the Cloud provider does nothing to help, you have no form of recourse unless you think you can make a legal case and pay huge fees to take it to court. There's a sea of disgruntled Amazon Prime subscribers out there who have lost access to their droves of personal photos stored in Amazon Photos and Amazon makes no attempt to restore the data. Many reports of empty promises to restore access without any actual results.
Now you only have to worry about burglars, broken water pipes, house fires, lightning strikes, power surges, stray bullets. Did I miss anything?
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Sorry if I missed it, but is there a wifi option? Physically, I wouldn't prefer to keep the NAS next to my router.
NO. My personal data newer goes thru any internet connection. Only personal hard drive old fashionable way. Just I use 3 copies of it, its mpossible all 3 will fail same time
I once thought I had the solution - a duplicate PC, but both PCs failed on the same day! Now I have multiple backups.
Thanks for all your great videos. Can I put different sizes of hard drives( 12tb and 6tb) into those bays? And what is your advice about ds1823xs+ for the purpose you just mentioned and my movie server? I'm about to purchase it. Thank you
does the autosave to onedrive feature of ms office work on this? Regarding the cost: I've found older models of synology for around 250$, and two WD 1 tb HDD's cost around 200$ so it is 450$ for that. If you are paying 10$/month for a cloud service you break even in 4 years. It is not that bad. And if you have spare HDD's lying around like I do, you will break even in just 2 years. However if you go for premium models with 5 slots they indeed cost a lot.
I use the synology ds220j which offer similar features and love it. Great piece of kit.
very solid viedo. good advice AND narration. Thank you Liron!
There's a third kind of person. Somebody who doesn't use "data".
Aka simpletons
How about the DiskStation DS223 for a little less money? Or do you suggest the 4 bay is better
Having worked in IT for many years the one thing you need to remember for backups is "3 is 2 & 2 is none" follow that approach and you should for 95% of the time be fine.
A Home cloud backup system is the way to go. NAS, HDD or SSD. Who wants their private files on some corporate server that can get hacked.
About 10 years ago I got a brand new Synology DS411 Slim just as my Dad had and backed up everything on it with a RAID 10 scheme. I thought a 4 x 2.5" drives HDD would have enough redundancy just to discover that after a power shortage three of my HDD's had malfunctioned which I fixed using their S.M.A.R.T app. After replacing the one HDD which couldn't be repaired, leaving the system to restore the data on the new drive over night, I came in the morning just to find out that ALL DATA WAS WIPED CLEAN. Their support could not offer any analysis of what happened nor did they have an explanation. The evening before I activated the restore of the new HDD, all the data was still there and intact - I've checked it thoroughly. - So I don't think I could trust anything from Synology again.
Honestly, after fiddling with raid for years, I've come to the conclusion that it's better simply to write to two separate disks, separately. Maybe not useful if you want protection for your OS disk, but for just backing up files, Raid just has too many complications.
Hi, have you had any problem with the mobile app saying “install drive on your Synology storage” when it’s already installed? Also because of that, it doesn’t sync
If i'm out of town and I click pictures on my phone, would they be automatically backed up on the NAS from the remote place or do i have to manually do it from offsite or will it happen only when i'm in the same netwrok at home?
I am currently using a cloud storage service with end to end encryption. I also have 2 external drives that sync my data and are encrypted with bit locker. I am always looking for better ways but I believe I have a pretty good system for now.
awesome
why so secretive...😂😆
@@CosmicCitiZenOfficial He's a secret agent
Yeeessss!! This is exactly what I was looking for. I hate being so enmeshed into iCloud and G Drive!! Thanks for the video!!
Appreciate you being here 🔥
What is tue heighest rate of encryption that you can choose for these devices ? Thabk you 🙏
Having it at home is not safe. House can be on fire, earthquake..etc or burglary. Put only extremely sensitive files or documents in a bank's secured safebox. Most banks offer this box for rent.
so i have a pc with over 50tb drives in it and i have a nas with 2x16tb how is it gonna save everything? also your house burns down now you lost everything so you need a 2nd external backup for the backup
I don't mean anything but imagine you store all of your data in a NAS and you are living in Japan and the entire land start to shake 😂
I lost my most nostalgic things from 2020-2021 after formatting my SSD to be used on a new motherboard and regret it to this day
I love mine! I have 4 12TBs. No such thing as "too much space."
Do they have any protections against ransomware? I use Google and iCloud to backup my files and data from my phone and computer. What if someone gets into your network, could they still download your files with zero day. There are benefits to each option. Buying drives can be expensive, but they should last 3-5 years especially if you put a UPS with it to prevent power outages.
What size drive(s) can each slot hold and can they be SSD?
Not Cloud Storage. It’s in your house, house burns down GOODBYE DATA
Fire proof safe with data port.
I only went 6mins into the vid but that's what's I was thinking. How's this cloud storage when it's stored locally?
@@gwaeron8630 how do have the Nas in a fireproof safe and accessible by your computers
Fireproof safe with a data port. Also when was the last time your house went up in flames? That was a scare tactic used back in the day to get people to "trust the cloud" and it just lingered...
bro if ur house burns down everything's loss. You'll prop be least worry about ur data then.😊
Why is the term 'backup' used for a single copy/ instance of files and data? I.e. I've always considered "backup' to mean additional copies besides those on my PC hard drive. I understand advantages of data storage on a NAS but wouldn't consider that backup unless it was a copy with originals located elsewhere.
Hello thank you for your video to inform us ! what would be the total cost once your purchase everything ?? and what is everything we would need to buy upfront ? thank you sir
Yeah, and if thieves gets into your house or there's a fire in the house say bye bye to your data! I still stand for the cloud backup.
I love how you make things seem simple. Unfortunately i still got hung up on the raid part. I will read the link you posted
I recently bought a external HDD here in Japan which was 2T, I used the drive for 2 months and never had issues. But one day I heard it chiriping/beeping and disconnected while transferring 20gb of file. The hard drive failed, it has never fallen or dropped, the disk inside I can hear still spinning, I did every trouble shoot and none worked. I lost a lot of family photos since if it would have been ok if I deleted them accidentally because i can recover it. This video really helped me think about creating my own cloud, but wouldnt it still need maintenance? Google cloud replaces their malfunctioned HDDs ever so often and their server room is build for EMP attacks, google for me is safer but I wish there was a one time unlimited storage plan I can buy
Hey Liron, love your channel. Can you get a NAS that incorporates SSD instead of HDD?
I have a laptop that is connected 50% of the tike to my asus proart monitor so struggling to cone up woth something that suits me for storage and redundancy. I was thinking of doing a NAS but soon we are glojg travelling in a van and the lack of decent internet at times and lack if space will make that NAS idea not doable. Whatever direction i twke, my personal, non work stuff is backed up on 4 extetnal drives (2x seperate 2 disc raids in mirror) so the chances of both going down at the same time is practically nil. Plus 1x set is in my parents loft, out of the way. Any ideas on a lightweight, slim storage method for either 2 drives i can raid or even better, 4 drives i can raid?
Over my life I’ve had several hard drives failed on me. It cost so much money to recover data. Now I’m keeping for each drive at lease two backed up drives 😅
Just be aware, it is not a backup solution, no matter what RAID / NAS you set up, if you by accident delete files, they are gone.... you have security against harddrive failure, but not delete files.... or malware / ransomeware.... so some would use the NAS for storing everything, and have a cloud backup service as a real backup.
Respectfully that is not correct as you are mixing up a bunch of things:
1. If you delete a file, it is literally saved on the NAS. In fact there are 8 versions of the file so you can go back to an older version.
2. If you set it up to synch BOTH ways, then yes. You are telling the NAS to delete the file when you delete it - but if you set it up as a one way backup, then no. It will not delete it.
3. If you have malware/ ransomware on your computer it will not spread to the NAS if you set it up that way. Malware can only infect what it can see.
so basically no.
@@LironSegev Yes you are right, provided you keep your files on you computer / drives etc. and have a backup copy on the nas, I was just referring to situation where you just keep all files on nas only…. and that many people thinks that RAID is guarding files in case of unintended deletion, and RAID does only guard against harddrive malfunction 😀
I have an office at two different buildings. My office desktop copies my entire user profile to my other office desktop every time my machines are shut down. Both machines are on the same WAN I created a .bat file that first cleans up all .temp files and caches. Maps to the target folder. Copies all files that have been modified since my last backup, disconnects all mapped drives and forces a shutdown of the desktop.. This happens at 5:00pm every day . Both machines already had 2 /500 gig SSD
Drives so all it cost me was 10 minutes to write a .bat script.
Hi Liron. I note that the offering is with traditional HDD. I have been upgrading systems with SSD implementations, and the results have been spectacular, particularly with older laptops. Wonder if there is a solution for a NAS system that uses SSD technology?
As far as I know, you can use SSD with Synology - but you would have to check the compatibility list on their website. In this particular model you can use 2x M.2 NVMe SSD which is amazing!
But it appears to be just for cache, not storage.
Which improves performance so you don't need the an SSD
Backblaze is $7/mo. Unlimited drive size. Works flawlessly for me with zero fuss.
Someone. Else's. Hard drive.
@@LironSegev yes but what if you are encrypting data before you upload them?
If I back up my photos from my iPhone to the synology storage, then delete the photos from my iPhone will the photo still stay on the synology storage cloud or will it delete it too?
What happens if you go on holiday and your house is empty? If, like me, you turn everything off to minimise the risk of an electrical device that's plugged into the mains, then your NAS is useless as you won't be able to access it if it's switched off. You've not only got to have the NAS turned on, but your Internet connection too.
why would you turn off everything? Do you not have security cameras? automation like heating/ cooling that you can control? Ring doorbell? How do you monitor your home when you travel if everything is off?
Surge protection outlets. fireproof safe.
One of the others may be if the company goes down of abandoned the product then it may become obsolete
Hi! Thank you for this video and all the insights. Unfortunately there is one thing I didn't understand completely: You said that this NAS option would be better if you don't trust cloud providers, on the other hand you create an account on Synology and have to agree to the EULA that you didn't read. What is the big difference between Synology and Google, OneDrive, Dropbox, etc.?
you aren't storing your stuff on their system. If you don't want to use their way to connect to your NAS, you don't have to - create your own.
Hi Liron, great video like always :-) If i want the same NAS with only 2 bays that i can access remotely... do you have a suggestion that is less expensive for me ? Thanks
My first Synology was a 2 bay 218+ amzn.to/41BkPVH and I see there is also this one that is 2 bay but I havent used this one: amzn.to/43CunBz
Do I update after adding the remaining 2 drives?
Can it be something like 8g 12g and 16 and 16 later?
Can an AmberX device be connected to this? It's a cloud device as well that focuses on security as well.
any guide how we setup sync locations two locations this to make sure , back are made in difference locations
Liron can this be hooked up as a DVR for the TV? What's needed besides the NAS and the TV channels lol?
Not sure that a NAS is the best tool for something like this. You would probably be best served by a DVR-like appliance such as HD HomeRun which, I believe - don't quote me on it! - can record live TV on the NAS instead of its built-in storage if you want it to.
can i use it for my course videos to be streamed and not be downloadable on my website?
When making your own cloud storage how would one opt for one that isn't non-physical?
But Apple iCloud and others use E2EE? Isn't that safe for sensitive documents? Not sure I want another piece of hardware.
that creep clip gave me chills
I bought a network storage device (personal cloud) made by a prominent hard drive manufacturer several years ago. It worked similarly, (except no backup of the backup). Last year the company quit supporting it and it only works locally, on Windows 10, our windows 11 computers can’t access it. Will this drive become obsolete in a few years as well?
ouch - that sucks! Synology is the leader in this industry and not only focuses on home devices but also on corporates, so odds of them not being around are slim. I have had mine since 2016 and now upgraded to this model.
I've got 35Tb of data, and cloud storage is just too expensive. It was cheaper to buy a NAS. I love my NAS DS1921+
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NAS Servers, but too expensive when hardware fails. Happen 3 times for me… and it was Synology. Dropbox works 100% of the time for me and my 10TB Regular Drive, just drag and drop for Dropbox. I have a copy & Dropbox is my failsafe 💞
This is still a single point of failure. If the synology gets fried due to some electrical surge etc, your data is gone because both the hard drives are connected to & powered by the same device. Just make 2 backups on the separate hard drives. Its not difficult if you setup a schedule & use freeware like syncback SE. And its WAY cheaper. These really are gimmicks, people trying to get you to buy their stuff when its not actually needed, and sometimes not even the best option to accomplish whatever it is you're trying to. Save your hard-earned $$$.
Most of the negatives you brought up against external hard drives apply to NASs.
They are single points of failure if it’s what you rely upon to store all your data.
Viruses can spread to them. Especially when you have less security protocols that billion dollar companies employ.
NASs are cool, but I think that cloud solutions are actually more practical for most that are not tech savvy.
Aside from the fact that you can archive and put a (strong) password on the data you put on the "cloud", what is the fundamental difference between a NAS and a regular PC that you would keep it on while you are away and use it as a NAS where I would keep a second back-up of those files?
For example a thin client/mini/micro PC that also draws very little power.
Or a router with USB storage. Would that work as type of NAS?
for me, any NAS is a separate computer that runs/stores my library (movies, tv shows, etc) and anything else i want on there while i use my main computer without worrying if what i'm doing will mess up the NAS. the NAS, which is a computer running Windows 10 with 3 high end drives, does just one thing, that's it. It COULD do more but it just houses all my media and allows me to stream it.
@@jasonsnell708 So beyond the names(NAS, destop PC, laptop, mini PC, etc) they are basically both exactly the same thing, and each one can do what the other can, just that the user chose what specific work give to each of them. So any PC can be used as a NAS.
@@ryutenmen Absolutely. Regular Windows 10 can be used as a server if it's major or sole function is to "serve" something. I use my Windows 10 computer (it sits to the far right of my side desk area) to house my library and stream from Emby (just like Plex). A synology box is just like a PC, but it uses different hardware and a different OS. It does the same thing. It's really not complicated :)
wish this video mentioned what happens if my cell phone gets stolen: what happens if I try to access my NAS from a desktop but the 2FA is set up to call my phone? And other similar predicaments. . . .
what you are asking has nothing to do with this a NAS but more with 2FA. In any case, if you have 2FA set up on a phone and it gets stolen, you use the backup code your set up and reset your 2FA.
My dad has a NAS system and so do I, and we live in different states. I have about 3 Gb of important stuff on his, and it's separated with encryption from his stuff, and he has the same on mine.
Perfect
100% should set this up, I've always been the one who says 'it's too expensive' well my drive recently failed and it cost me £600 for a company to retrieve the data (95% success) so in hindsight, it'd have been less expensive to setup a NAS for sure!
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How is this not also a single point of failure also? ⚡️💀
see pinned comment
Well, how does the problems of having a hard drive backup be any different for this setup. The hatdware can fail, be stolen,etc
Ive been running a DS920+ for years and have several other user, 16 to be exact. Most use synology photos to backup their phones. I also have 2 other offsite nas to backup my nas too.
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@Steven for years? i was interested to setup a 50TB NAS, but i did some research and it seems like i might need to change the HDD's every 5 year or so. it seems very expensive.
I didn't see any detail about what kind of hard drives were unpacked to slot into the device. Does it come with a couple of empty hard drives ready formatted? If not what size do you obtain and have they to be formatted first NTFS ? FAT32? The back up process seems also to need cable connection to router/modem and I wouldn't be happy to do that as my cable router has no spare ethernet ports and I don't like the idea of my stored data connecting to the internet directly. All a bit confusing so I'll stick to my two cloud storage places and two external terrabyte solid state drives. Keeps my album stuff safe
You can use any drives of any size. You can mix them up too so they don't have to be same speed. Watch the video again. Literally said that.
So many questions, but first, before I buy, my need is to backup my iphones, photos, and music. I have a P.C. and just purchased my first Mac. I need to backup all the things I mentioned but I want to use it for backing up my Mac and to use as primary storage for any video editing I do on my Mac. Do you know if I can easily swap and store files on the Synology while using Final Cut Pro. I am brand new to this so if you have the answer, talk to me like a I am 10 years old so I can understand you. THanks.
We all have that 10-year old kid in us -- and Liron speaks to the 10-year-old me in each of his videos. I found the Synology website, and it may offer answers to some or all of your questions! Good luck. 😊
the answer is simply yes. I use Premiere Pro and have all my project files on the NAS. I can also give my editor access to the project. As far as other files/ photos/ videos etc. go, once you install the app on your phone/ computer, it will just automatically backup to your NAS without you having to do anything.
@@LironSegev THANK YOU!
Better than having all of your stuff in the cloud with everyone else who was dumb enough to keep it there in the first place. CS is the biggest mass-surveillance program in the internet's history, or at least one of the biggest. Given it's all in one spot. That thing about houses burning down is easily avoidable by having your physical storage in a gym bag or bookbag that you often take with you when you go out. Or have a copy stored somewhere else. Both have risks, but cloud storage is a bigger risk, especially in 2024.