TIMESTAMPS 00:00 “Intro” 0:27 “what’s an iceberg” Tier 1 1:18 “Gods” 2:35 “Difficulty” 3:25 “Disturbing themes” 4:12 “Marriages” Tier 2 4:58 “Silent Hill references” 5:29 “Different endings” 6:04 “Logic Ending” 6:55 “Majora’s Mask references” 7:19 “Pocketcat and children” 7:51 “Miasma” 8:48 “Sulfur God ending” Tier 3 9:20 “Talk option on Vile” 10:02 “Glass shards on Needles” 10:34 “Crawl Mauler = Pyramid Head” 10:58 “Le’Garde = The Kaiser” 11:22 “Moonscorching is your true self” 12:06 “August is Ragnvaldr’s descendant” 12:35 “The Heartless One” 13:38 “Saveable Pav and Samira” Tier 4 14:13 “Different ways into Pre’hevil” 15:23 “10% Cave Dwellers” 15:37 “Blights are New Gods” 16:03 “Ruin changes portraits” 16:26 “Sulfur God = Alll-Mer” 16:56 “Playable Le’Garde” 17:25 “Blue Sin” 18:04 “Pocketcat’s room” Tier 5 18:26 “The Tormented One = Final Boss of Silent Hill 4” 18:48 “Pocketcat model change” 19:15 “Sergal and The Heartless One” 19:39 “Beta Versions” 20:00 “GOFAH is Gluttony (Silent Hill 3)” 20:21 “Sun God” 21:25 ”White Mold Murderer = The Janitor” Tier 6 22:00 “Black Caleb extra scene” 22:30 “Black Caleb Darkness reference” 22:51 “Moonless is a New God” 23:38 “White Mask” 24:51 “Shop keeper beating baby” Tier 7 25:19 “Sabbath is from DOFAH” 25:58 “Le’Garde is The Girl’s father” 26:46 “Villagers are Francis Bacon paintings” 27:09 “Black Matter” Tier 8 27:39 “Fear&Hunger was originally a UA-cam series” 28:13 “Termina is a loop” 28:53 “Moonscorch is from Elden Ring” 29:16 “The Heartless One and Book of Enlightenment” Tier 9 30:08 “Strange figures in the forest” 30:34 “Logic killed Rher/Vinushka” 32:26 “Cahara is illiterate” 32:49 “9 Chromatic Blights” Tier 10 33:19 “There is no Alll-Mer” 34:14 “Unfound Secrets” 34:27 “Cut Father Hugo sprite” Tier 11 35:10 “Fear and Hunger actually happened” 35:34 “Every copy of the game is personalized”
@ no problem man lmao, also actually idk why I did this but I felt this video needed timestamps, maybe because I knew you’ve been working on it for a while so I’m glad to give you the well deserved care 🫂
Yeah, Vinushka (God of nature) "dying" and Logic (the machine God) "rising" is a really cool parallel, highlighting how humanity is leaving archaic habits behind and moving toward an era of more critical thinking, where nature/religion give way to industrialization/rationality.
Fear and hunger Veteran here! Loved the video and your breakdown of it!^^ One strange thing I will notetate to add to the lore of Marriages, its possible canon or at least implied that all marriages need to be, in some form or another Consensual in order to happen, though the concept of "Consent" is seemingly rather vague, as completely sub servant things like ghouls can create marriages, and this would have... interesting implications for how the fuck a guard CONVINCED a cavewolf to get down with it.. This also is another reason why Father Hugo's other sprite was likely scrapped, both due to its more disturbing concept once read into, and the idea that a Child and Adult marriage simply.. can't happen, as the even the gods look down upon the idea of such acts
@@embodiedface When you talk to him in his fight I remember seeing him say something about "This is all very familiar". I forget the dialogue path but it's a pretty cheeky reference to majora's mask
The Heartless One isn't the one behind the books of enlightenment. As you said, she uses light magic, and wields one of the two swords forged for the True King of Mahabre, which the games lead you to believe is the Sun God. The game also states that the sun god is the god of enlightenment.
The game doesn't really outright state that the Sun God is the God of Enlightwnment directly, if anything the games never says 'Sun God' in general. It is intentionally well hidden. But yeah, there are some very heavily implications of it, most notably in how the Amon sigil is in the Book of Enlightenment and how there exists a City of the Sun, Amon, in Abysonnia. And ofc the 1st line of the Skin Bible of rher heavily implies the existence of a Sun God.
technically, it coul be possible that the name of the heartless one in the next uptade will be "the sungod" but I really don't think it will be the case, maybe she's the one that killed the sungod and it's the reason why she's imprisoned?
Red Virtue and Blue Sin implies the existence of a Yellow or Green Penance sword in the third game to create the perfect trifecta of Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory.
Something which this video doesn't seem to cover is the unknown god sigils in the museum clock, which have the datamined names Amon, Turkil and Sarko. Interestingly enough, there is actually a lot of concrete information with Amon, given the god sigil's clear appearance not only in the Heartless One's Curse of Light spell, but in the Book of Enlightenment itself, as well as the fact that there exists a City of the Sun, Amon, in Abyssonia in O'saa's intro. Shadowtheaxolotl's video about Amon proposes this god to be the Sun God. As for Turkil, we really don't have much at all, apart from the fact that the Termina Pocketcat books has a beetleman called Turkilo which dates back to the creator's Tumblr, and how there seems to be an IRL beetle called turkkilo (the finnish name for the nicrophorus investigator, which is interesting since the creator is Finnish). The god sigil also looks like a beetle as well, with the 4 segments, so there's that. And for Sarko, there is surprisingly good evidence towards the idea of a Star God, which has horse mask c*ltists (you can find horse mask in the museum along with the bunny, wolf and owl masks so we know for a fact that such do exist somewhere), connecting it to the person in the white mold apartments with the Pegasus constellation, carefully positioned telescope and a horsehead statue. And the Sarko sigil does look like a star to some degree. This sigil has also been used by the Black Witch in the 1st game, also appearing in the Necronomicon. I actually made a redd1t post about it, in collaboration with many people in the Funger d1scord.
Bruh I am not going back to Termina I beat logic and I’m happy with my life choices If I go back and spend another 40 hours trying to beat heartless one I will go insane
Do this, counter attack + leechmonger ring + hardened heart, (or sisu for more slots but you gotta find August) + eastern sword + yggaegatsu amulet and guard every round and you’ll defo win, 100% guaranteed
A very nice video. Re the final point, of course you are aware that this isn't what "every copy is personalized" implies. If you play some random game that allows for movement in thousands of positions (eg a strategy game, like AOE), you won't ever get the same exact progression (not even in your own units, due to enemies appearing; let alone for everything in the game). Yet it would be irrational to state that therefore every copy of (say) AOE is personalized. Fun note: you can easily give the (fake) impression that each copy is personalized, if you go into the trouble to include enough triggers that change things; virtually no one would bother to check for upwards of 1000 different states, but you can have 1000 different states with a very small number of triggers (for example, 30 triggers set as 10x10x10 or 20 triggers set as 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2).
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 “Intro”
0:27 “what’s an iceberg”
Tier 1
1:18 “Gods”
2:35 “Difficulty”
3:25 “Disturbing themes”
4:12 “Marriages”
Tier 2
4:58 “Silent Hill references”
5:29 “Different endings”
6:04 “Logic Ending”
6:55 “Majora’s Mask references”
7:19 “Pocketcat and children”
7:51 “Miasma”
8:48 “Sulfur God ending”
Tier 3
9:20 “Talk option on Vile”
10:02 “Glass shards on Needles”
10:34 “Crawl Mauler = Pyramid Head”
10:58 “Le’Garde = The Kaiser”
11:22 “Moonscorching is your true self”
12:06 “August is Ragnvaldr’s descendant”
12:35 “The Heartless One”
13:38 “Saveable Pav and Samira”
Tier 4
14:13 “Different ways into Pre’hevil”
15:23 “10% Cave Dwellers”
15:37 “Blights are New Gods”
16:03 “Ruin changes portraits”
16:26 “Sulfur God = Alll-Mer”
16:56 “Playable Le’Garde”
17:25 “Blue Sin”
18:04 “Pocketcat’s room”
Tier 5
18:26 “The Tormented One = Final Boss of Silent Hill 4”
18:48 “Pocketcat model change”
19:15 “Sergal and The Heartless One”
19:39 “Beta Versions”
20:00 “GOFAH is Gluttony (Silent Hill 3)”
20:21 “Sun God”
21:25 ”White Mold Murderer = The Janitor”
Tier 6
22:00 “Black Caleb extra scene”
22:30 “Black Caleb Darkness reference”
22:51 “Moonless is a New God”
23:38 “White Mask”
24:51 “Shop keeper beating baby”
Tier 7
25:19 “Sabbath is from DOFAH”
25:58 “Le’Garde is The Girl’s father”
26:46 “Villagers are Francis Bacon paintings”
27:09 “Black Matter”
Tier 8
27:39 “Fear&Hunger was originally a UA-cam series”
28:13 “Termina is a loop”
28:53 “Moonscorch is from Elden Ring”
29:16 “The Heartless One and Book of Enlightenment”
Tier 9
30:08 “Strange figures in the forest”
30:34 “Logic killed Rher/Vinushka”
32:26 “Cahara is illiterate”
32:49 “9 Chromatic Blights”
Tier 10
33:19 “There is no Alll-Mer”
34:14 “Unfound Secrets”
34:27 “Cut Father Hugo sprite”
Tier 11
35:10 “Fear and Hunger actually happened”
35:34 “Every copy of the game is personalized”
idk why you did this for me, but thank you lol
@ no problem man lmao, also actually idk why I did this but I felt this video needed timestamps, maybe because I knew you’ve been working on it for a while so I’m glad to give you the well deserved care 🫂
@@diobbrando Well, I don't know if I deserve all that... but thank you anyway. Means a lot
Yeah, Vinushka (God of nature) "dying" and Logic (the machine God) "rising" is a really cool parallel, highlighting how humanity is leaving archaic habits behind and moving toward an era of more critical thinking, where nature/religion give way to industrialization/rationality.
There's not much rationality up there
Hey I made a mistake in this video, I said "Samira" several times when I meant "Samarie" My bad.
Never apologize. They should change the name to what you said homie.
Also I fall asleep to your videos thank you for the content.
Fear and hunger Veteran here! Loved the video and your breakdown of it!^^
One strange thing I will notetate to add to the lore of Marriages, its possible canon or at least implied that all marriages need to be, in some form or another Consensual in order to happen, though the concept of "Consent" is seemingly rather vague, as completely sub servant things like ghouls can create marriages, and this would have... interesting implications for how the fuck a guard CONVINCED a cavewolf to get down with it..
This also is another reason why Father Hugo's other sprite was likely scrapped, both due to its more disturbing concept once read into, and the idea that a Child and Adult marriage simply.. can't happen, as the even the gods look down upon the idea of such acts
32:51 Arcane part 2 got us all
@@gatoxulo oh wtf I didn’t even notice I said that. Good catch
Funny enough one of the conversations with pocketcat in fear and hunger termina even references how the game is completely similar to majoras mask
When
@@embodiedface When you talk to him in his fight I remember seeing him say something about "This is all very familiar". I forget the dialogue path but it's a pretty cheeky reference to majora's mask
Evil Pugsr be like “I make bad content”
@@DoofeFlussferd you should see my old content lol it’s not great haha
Evil Pugsr be like “I don’t really love you all” 😢
The most self aware youtuber
Evil Pugsr be like “skibidi Toilet”
The Heartless One isn't the one behind the books of enlightenment. As you said, she uses light magic, and wields one of the two swords forged for the True King of Mahabre, which the games lead you to believe is the Sun God. The game also states that the sun god is the god of enlightenment.
The game doesn't really outright state that the Sun God is the God of Enlightwnment directly, if anything the games never says 'Sun God' in general. It is intentionally well hidden.
But yeah, there are some very heavily implications of it, most notably in how the Amon sigil is in the Book of Enlightenment and how there exists a City of the Sun, Amon, in Abysonnia. And ofc the 1st line of the Skin Bible of rher heavily implies the existence of a Sun God.
technically, it coul be possible that the name of the heartless one in the next uptade will be "the sungod"
but I really don't think it will be the case, maybe she's the one that killed the sungod and it's the reason why she's imprisoned?
I'm loving this for the shattering nostalgia. This game sticks but the larger single theories and lore can get you lost. Great video dude! ❤
24:42 you can also give the mask to the person outside pocketcat's room. And it does nothing
There is no way the FnH iceberg isn't 9 hours long
I love iceberg videos, felt really happy when i saw a fear and hunger iceberg on the algorithm.
Red Virtue and Blue Sin implies the existence of a Yellow or Green Penance sword in the third game to create the perfect trifecta of Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory.
Been looking forward to this video!
bro the game is ALL text how do u get "Samarie" wrong
GG really good my friend you really grow has a content creator
Something which this video doesn't seem to cover is the unknown god sigils in the museum clock, which have the datamined names Amon, Turkil and Sarko.
Interestingly enough, there is actually a lot of concrete information with Amon, given the god sigil's clear appearance not only in the Heartless One's Curse of Light spell, but in the Book of Enlightenment itself, as well as the fact that there exists a City of the Sun, Amon, in Abyssonia in O'saa's intro. Shadowtheaxolotl's video about Amon proposes this god to be the Sun God.
As for Turkil, we really don't have much at all, apart from the fact that the Termina Pocketcat books has a beetleman called Turkilo which dates back to the creator's Tumblr, and how there seems to be an IRL beetle called turkkilo (the finnish name for the nicrophorus investigator, which is interesting since the creator is Finnish). The god sigil also looks like a beetle as well, with the 4 segments, so there's that.
And for Sarko, there is surprisingly good evidence towards the idea of a Star God, which has horse mask c*ltists (you can find horse mask in the museum along with the bunny, wolf and owl masks so we know for a fact that such do exist somewhere), connecting it to the person in the white mold apartments with the Pegasus constellation, carefully positioned telescope and a horsehead statue. And the Sarko sigil does look like a star to some degree. This sigil has also been used by the Black Witch in the 1st game, also appearing in the Necronomicon.
I actually made a redd1t post about it, in collaboration with many people in the Funger d1scord.
I hate you pugsr, my wife left me
Who hurt y- oh.
I'll never get tired of fear and hunger videos.
31:40 vinushka left the world long time ago since the wooden thing that waits for him is waiting for him for a long time
thanks for the video, loved it
Bruh I am not going back to Termina
I beat logic and I’m happy with my life choices
If I go back and spend another 40 hours trying to beat heartless one I will go insane
but she's soooooo hot
Do this, counter attack + leechmonger ring + hardened heart, (or sisu for more slots but you gotta find August) + eastern sword + yggaegatsu amulet and guard every round and you’ll defo win, 100% guaranteed
A very nice video. Re the final point, of course you are aware that this isn't what "every copy is personalized" implies. If you play some random game that allows for movement in thousands of positions (eg a strategy game, like AOE), you won't ever get the same exact progression (not even in your own units, due to enemies appearing; let alone for everything in the game). Yet it would be irrational to state that therefore every copy of (say) AOE is personalized.
Fun note: you can easily give the (fake) impression that each copy is personalized, if you go into the trouble to include enough triggers that change things; virtually no one would bother to check for upwards of 1000 different states, but you can have 1000 different states with a very small number of triggers (for example, 30 triggers set as 10x10x10 or 20 triggers set as 2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2).
Cool iceberg vid bro.😺
Yoooooo. Babe wake up new Pugsr just dropped.
Yo what's the song used in tier 11 35:45
@@notChemical “blood for s*x” from Lisa the Painful
@@Pugsr ur so real for replying ily 🫀
Another lore video said the 'rhers' dimension is a misunderstanding and that it is actually a kanifestation of logic
yeah.... you could also say The Tortured One is inspired by the ending of 13 Ghosts. same thing.
W"Samira" is my favorite character
I think the Black matter on the stove is a RE/ reference
Does anyone know what the heartless one is going to be renamed to?
Heck yeah
“Samira” is right up there with “Purkle,” you are prohibited from correcting this in the future 🥳
I am both american and stupid. Pronunciation is hard
@ us, king 🤴🏻
it’s even spelled wrong in the video. it’s put in spelling in the game 😭
"miasma is one of the strongest swords in the game" careful dont let Frapello see this 👀
it's definitely not THE best weapon, but it's definitely solid. If you need a good one handed I'd prefer the eastern sword.
7:44 i think he just eats them
Nice video but i just wanna say theres only 3 categories of gods, sulfur is ascended
Cahara is a sex icon but his ending is sadly not canon 😢
im sorry but one character not being able to read anything is just a stupid idea for balance lol
for balancing, absolutely, but it would be funny
Changed as a person? Lmao. Way to kid yourself.
@@Monanniverse ?