Refusing A Ring Return
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2021
- The plaintiff says the defendant is his ex-girlfriend. He’s suing her because he claims she owes him money for the engagement ring he bought her, which she refuses to return. The defendant says she moved in with the plaintiff not long after his wife of 35 years died. She claims the ring was a gift and wasn’t a proposal.
Case 29-272 - Розваги
I'm loving the elderly gentleman. He's freaking wonderful.
So adorbs
We all need a Lenny in our life!
@@mikesteele05 you think he can tell off my boss? Lol
He is tooooo cute
A true romantic
Unpopular opinion: she used him. She sought him out after his wife dies. She moves in. She took over his place and displaces him to another room on a futon. Accepts an engagement ring, "that's not an engagement ring." Ends the relationship. Stays for year and a half. Keeps the ring and sells it. He's a simp, but she definitely used him.
D Gaines, I think you summed it up perfectly. She's even LOOKS like a gold digger.
More like they used each other. And you really beed to look up the definition of a gold digger. Does not apply in this case.
@@karli9434 can you explain the look? Not sure what that means
@@Childfree334 no but she wasn't looking for a husband. She didn't even wait a year after his wife died. Who does that
I was about to comment the same thing. Opportunist.
Yeah, the old jeweler was a cool breeze.....RETIRED LONGER than he worked!
Shows what a scam the jewelry business is. Pay $3500 for a ring, sell for $800. Worst investment you can make in life.
@@Bread996 Marriage is the worst investment a Man can ever make.
I highly doubt she only got $800 for it.I bet she got more.
She took him for a ride. Her being in his place not paying rent after he left is a tale of its own.
A ride he wanted to go on willingly.
"Im gonna be 93, I don't look it..." 🤣
He was the sharpest in the 3 of them, too.
My nana says the exact same thing 😂
That was a good one 🤣
He was the best part of this case
Atleast he stands up ....I hope to God I can do that at 93
I am 71 years old,and have only had one soulmate….I will never find anyone who could ever replace him…I am waiting to reunite with him…God willing
Bless you 🥰🥰🥰
God bless you
God bless you 🙏🏽 you will! God has us in the palm of his hand 👏🏽
I wish men were the same way, but alas, most aren’t as dedicated as women can be.
Going through grief is so painful, so earth splitting, this poor guy just wanted companionship more than anything, he was trying to avoid the pain, unfortunately he now has to deal with this plus the loss of his wife. She’s a real piece of work.
Who grieves his wife's passing by hooking up with another woman?
@@small_joys2022 YEAH men grieve by trying to get with another female.
@@marilynwillett804 not just men 🤦♀️
@@small_joys2022 You obviously are 10 years old 😅
@@marilynwillett804 I so wish you have enough intelligence to pick a good man.
PopPop went right to sleep after his testimony. 😂😂😂😂
Lol
Lol!!! His testimony drained him! 😜
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂 😂 😂
Stop!!! Lol!!!!!!!!!
Who moves on that quickly? A man who can't be alone. What kind of person swoops in after the wife dies,moves in,doesn't work and eventually takes over the apartment? An opportunist that's who. Sad .. smh
A very selfish person.
Soulmate= No Freeloader =Yes is what she is!
Men do it all the time. Moreso than women.
@@LOVE_ALL_AROUND I'd believe that. 👍 That's why I didn't put a gender to the opportunist 👍
You nailed it. I didn't like her right away. That's what happens when you don't take your time to know someone.
Pops said “I may not look it” 🤣🤣🤣 Don’t play with him
Lolz ikr
FUNNY.... She wears that ring on the finger an engagement ring goes on🤷🏻♂️
(Side note.... 'Leonard get up!' I died🤣)
you wear a ring on the finger it fits and is comfortable
I got a diamond ring on my thumb said no one ever
My sentiments exactly i wondered why nobody mentioned it. And towards the end of the case judge referred to it as an engagement ring when asking defendant a question. The defendant did not deny then that it was.
I am glad some of us are observant
Haha. I love how that judge has such a short fuse....she goes from laughing and joking with you to screaming and yelling at you in 2 seconds 🔥🔥🔥👌
She is just Real with it lol upfront
Bipolar😂
It’s funny sometimes, but most of the time when she raises her voice like that. It makes me cringe!!!
If I had to listen to that on a daily… I would use earplugs on a daily…
She’s very good at what she does but that high voice can make me go nuts.
@@putinisageniusdjt1564 i totally hear you :)
She knew full well that ring was an engagement ring! She took advantage of the plaintiff, and his feelings for her.
Absolutely..she saw him coming
obviously as a friendship or dress ring you don't wear on the wedding finger where she wore it in the photo
This woman is his soulmate after spending 35 years with his late wife?!? Smh cold game yall
Definitely!
I wonder whether she's even into males
I think u can love ppl a different way... I think
I think his grieving process didn't help his thinking process
Males for you.
ya girl walkin' into the courtroom lookin' like a 1990s Glenn Close
Lmao
Girl??? Maybe 20 years ago
The poor plaintiff seems lost and lonely. The defendant knew what the plaintiff wanted when he gave her that ring, but she seems broke and readily willing to take whatever the plaintiff was willing to shell out in his grief.
The jeweler retired at 42 😮 that's amazing. That's how he lives so long stress free
This woman comes off as a total taker who knowingly took full advantage of the fact that this man was grieving and not in the right state of mind to be starting a relationship. She payed no rent, stole his “useless” ring, kicked him out of his own bedroom, and her reasoning is, “He let me.” That’s the statement of an abuser.
I agree.
Golddigger
Yup, just trifling…
100% with you on that
Yep! She’s totally pathetic
“Get up” lol 😂
Hey what’s your IG
@@pat22nasty Ke2times_
😂 aleast he can
As Judge Judy says, an engagement ring is like a contract & If you don’t fulfill the contract by actually getting married, you return the engagement ring to whomever gave it to you.
Completely unfair judgement.
I wish the best for that man.
I agree. I think she was leading him on and knowingly have him hope that they could get back together, so he didn't demand the ring back. An honest and kind person doesn't stay in your house rent free and kick you out of your room for 18 months once they know they can't be in a relationship with you. He's foolish to fall for it, but she's a horrible person to play him like this.
I also agree!! He even stated that he had Hope's they would get back together that's why he let her keep it!!
I always thought that the person who did NOT break up gets the ring .
Personally, I think he waited too long
Do REAL DIAMONDS crack?zi looked it and teal diamonds doNOT ctack according to Google.
@@jaynecampbell4396
Even if it’s made of plastic you should return it to whoever bought it after breaking up lol
But the person who purchased the ring should get the ring back. Not the one who broke off the relationship
He should’ve went to Judy. JM is always iffy as hell on engagement rings. Judy every time I’ve seen it gives the ring back/money back.
"Can you hear me now?" Bless pops heart.
What a piece of work. She keeps the ring, and sells it to pay bills. I wonder what she'll do to pay next month's bills...???
she probably got her disability why she got so sassy
he didn't want the ring said from his own mouth, didn't want the money from the first sale either. At some point if she needs money it would be the first thing to sell if they break up. Even if it was a necklace or a pair of shoes...you don't want to keep stuff from your ex if you need the $$$
She's a heartless opportunist
Calling her his soulmate feels really disrespectful to his wife of 30+ years. I don't know what it's like to lose someone that you've been with for that long, I've been with my husband for 17 years, but if I God forbid ever lost him, I would never call someone else my soul mate. But that's just me!
You have no idea what you would do if that happened.
I agree 100%. That's why I don't feel bad about the lady using him (although she's a bad person too). I don't care if you fell out of love with your wife, if you've been with her for 30+ years and she fucking DIES you should wait a little bit before thinking with your dick. He's a classless person.
Agree with you.You might be lonely you might even fall in love again but to call her his soulmate means his wife was definitely not the love of his life, yes maybe married for 30+ years but stayed together for other reasons,and I think he still is in love with her and if she wanted him he would go back with her but I don't think her feelings were reciprocal.
AGREE!!!!
@@kennethbaker5223 I have an idea of my character and how I would react yes.
She used this man. He was mourning his wife and she took advantage of him. She should feel ashamed of herself.
he used her P**** while mourning probably so it's a win win why is she more at fault. He needed something and she had that something. Also we are no where near their relationship so we can't judge.
And she stated that she contacted him..
If i was the judge I'd make her pay back the £3:400
So why would "but we are not going to get married right away" come up when he give her the 💍 if it wasn't an engagement 💍?
Because it’s a promise ring and not an engagement ring. If I can’t set a date, we’re not engaged. We are actually in agreement that we are absolutely not getting married at this point
Excellent question Haniffah. That really frames what was happening perfectly
@@desireegodfrey8048 oh please I was engaged longer than their whole relationship. We both knew we weren’t in a rush to get married, but we wanted to get engaged so we could take a step beyond “boyfriends” after however many years. My husband is better with time frames lol
Ray Romano & Cruella DeVille 🤣
🤣 That's awesome!
Be Nice!😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤔🤭😂👌
The Temu version 😂😂😂
I bet if she wanted him back he would do it in a heartbeat. How he keeps looking at her, poor lonely guy. Shes definitely not the person for him.
She is a user....she played on his grief and his loneliness....I hope she gets what's coming to her.
yep she'll get her karma
She’s a piece of work………..!
The kind of man that says to an elderly friend: Len get up. Doesn't linger on words of romance. Doesn't go out to look for love when his wife is passed but doesn't refuse a mate who offers themselves to a relationship.. kinda lets things happen..
I bet he still visits his wife's grave and changes her flowers just as he goes through the messages with this hungry woman remembering the good times and regretting the bad. I bet he goes to Len's for a tea even though he'd rather a beer but Len can't do beer because of all the medication...
she clearly says "I found out his wife had died and so I called him up" She also says he was a "Clammer". I bet these "Clammers" make a few bucks?
She then moved in with him straight away. Umm
Id like to go around to Lens for a cuppa too btw see you there
He's a sharp sweertheart that Len
So well said 👏
👌
The most romantic short story ever.
It's pretty common that men who lose their wife after being married most of their adult lives to marry quickly.
Yeah I’ve noticed the same. They’re not use to being by themselves so they need someone to fill that void
Women too I've seen , hard to adjust to being alone.
Sure, why honor the wife's memory or start taking care of themselves now?
@@Lady.B0420 Right. I love the way men ALWAYS get a free pass. People are demonizing the woman here as usual.
@@Childfree334 oh please lol…. Here comes the UA-cam feminist Army
That's a gorgeous ring, disgusting she preyed on his vulnerability though. 🖤 the 93 yr old friend
I'm pretty sure I saw him taking a nap, in the background, while the case continued. And I absolutely love it 😂😂
It when he said "I'm 93 years old and dont look it" 🤣🤣
Love how women like her manipulate the situation and then don't take responsibility
She's awful........
there are a lot of women like that now! entitled and expect preferential treatment , ps u dont sound like that tho!
She’s clearly used to living off men. Beauty fades but dumb is forever. She’s clearly an aging beauty that refuses to provide for herself. Don’t be her ladies and build a future for yourself.
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Love the judge Judy quote lol
Just made one myself on a different comment
100% agreed.
🙄 lol
He should have gotten the ring back, she is a user. Stayed in the apartment and took over his bed, she knew that he loved her and would let her get away with anything. Sadly Judge just let her twist the knife in him one last time.
He was grieving the loss of his wife and jumped into a relationship too quickly because he didn't want to be alone anymore. No doubt she knew that and used him since she accepted his marriage proposal only six months after his wife died. When she saw that huge diamond ring on her finger she thought "Gold mine! I found myself a sucker!"
@@BlueIvysAssistant Who grieves the loss of a wife by sleeping around with another woman days after she passes away? The man got the torture he totally deserved.
“I wanted nothing to do with the ring. I wanted her”. How sweet 😍😍😍
I love how the plaintiff doesn't remember exactly when he started dating the defendant then gave the exact date his wife passed.
They formed a relationship too soon after his wife died
agree
She can dress herself up as respectfully as possible, she's still a lying, manipulative user who took advantage of a widower who was afraid to be alone for the first time in his life. She should be ashamed, but I have a feeling she has no shame.
She didn't take advantage of him.They were old friends. The guy's wife of 35 years dies. He's now lonely and wants companionship. She calls and gives him condolences for his wife, they start chatting, rekindling a friendship. 3 months later they start dating, falling in love. They move in together, he buys the lady a ring as a gift because he wants to show her that he loves her. After 6 months, they start arguing everyday, things are not good. They break up. He tells her to keep the ring. How did she take advantage of him? If anything they used each other. Simple. It's messed up that women blame women. It takes 2 to tango, blame the gentleman as well.
There's no rule book on how to properly grieve so I see how he ended up in this situation. He strikes me as a relationship type man so hopefully he is healing now and will find love again.
You dont need a rulebook. Its just common etiquette.
The Plaintiff was lonely and she took advantage of that.
Rings have an entirely different meaning to women than they do to men. That was a "shut up" ring lady. He gave you the ring to shut you up about marriage, but would satisfy you in the meantime so he wouldn't lose your companionship.
You nailed it!
@@ciennacrowson455 He gave her the ring to nail her lolol
At least he bought a ring, many guys will just talk about getting married in the future to string her along.
Gosh that's savage
A ring means engagement to men or women .
The whole world knows that
Wow she's a piece of work. She learned his wife had died and she decided to move in on him to gain herself a husband. And as cruel as that is she took over his bedroom after that. And after all that she kept the ring he bought her.
I don't think she necessarily wanted a husband, she wanted a full bank account. And if it meant pretending she would marry him to keep it going, she figured so be it.
Agreed
So he has no responsibility for his actions?
@@lauraanne5175 what actions he was grieving the loss of his wife. He proposed and wanted a long engagement and she to be selfish and sell the ring. so no he is not responsible for his actions because he had no actions other than proposing. and besides it should have gone back to him because it was an engagement ring and since the engagement didn't happen it always goes back to the person who purchased it.
@@jaynehogue2459 I disagree. We are all responsible for our own actions, grieving or not, he allowed her in and he allowed her to take advantage of him. She is completely in the wrong for what she did, but that does not excuse his fault in the relationship
My aunt passed away a few years ago of cancer. Within a month of her passing, my uncle proposed to three different women! Needless to say, he got rid of all of the family photos, including pictures of my cousin (his son), got brand new furniture, and is collecting my aunt's pension as she was a school teacher, all while married to the third woman he proposed to. It's just sad!
That reminds me of Dog the Bounty Hunter proposing to that lady on tv just after his wife died 😬 🤦🏼♀️ So awkward and sad. Some men of a certain era need a woman to take care of them. When we were kids my mother used to get sick a lot and my father was useless without her. We’d go to school with dirty wrinkled uniforms and inedible lunches, I’d have a ponytail on the side of my head and we ate dry fried ground beef for dinner every night. He would have done the same thing if he lost her.
@@blondesense1708 I'm so sorry you went through that! That's terrible!
In my uncle's situation, his son was an adult when his mom passed, which really adds to why I think his actions just really did not make any sense. I try not to judge, but I think he needed more time to cope/grieve before moving on, like the plaintiff in this case.
I think she took advantage of his weaknesses, by taking his bedroom and then the apartment, even shafted the landlord. I don't buy that the ring was cracked. She needed $, and fast. He said he loved her, my question is why?
He’s a SIMP duhhhh
She emotional amd financial abused him.
She is also a squatter.. And had to be evicted.
After all that time living with him she had no built up assets?
This is not her 1st rodeo...
Why do half these people walk through the door and act like they have never been in a courtroom before Grandpa walked in ready to approach the bench and he is not even the plaintiff? 💯
🤣🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
He's 93. lol Cut him some slack.
He's 93 lay off
Can’t wait to see you in TV at 93!
That type of ring is engorgement ring. She knew it.
She knew exactly what she was doing, just trifling and karma won't miss a beat on her ass. Buddy was moving on way too fast...
The old man fell asleep 🤣
It late for him .....he can stand at 93....hell I'm barely getting up now
“Len, get up!!!”
Real classy
😂😂 he can't hear well ....lol
She's clearly a gold digger. I agree with the plaintiff that it was an engagement ring, but the fact that he "let her keep it" after they broke up (and I do believe the defendant on that), I think it was, in the end, a gift. The plaintiff didn't dispute her testimony about him and the jeweler trying to sell the ring for her and letting her keep the money (if their deal had gone through). They probably would have gotten their cut, too, had it sold. As for her selling it later for $800 because "the diamond was cracked," I don't believe that. I think she either still has it (it was a beautiful ring) or she got more $$ for it than she said.
Big sboutout to the 93 year old!
I would place a bet that she made his life miserable the whole time. He was dealing with a lying narcissist that preyed upon his grief.
Ma'am widowers/older divorce's normally dont over emphasize a new engagement out of respect for their deceased partners. No party doesnt mean you're not engaged.
Is anyone going to tell the 93 year old man he can have a seat now.
This defendant is a piece of work...............She knew it was an engagement ring.
He should get a Cockatoo to replace her.
I'll never understand why people want to keep anything or rather, insignificant things after they end a relationship. Why do you want to hold onto that energy?? I can understand a vehicle if yall share children, or a home.... but a ring?? Really? Give that shit back and keep it moving!
She didn't hold on to it; she sold it to pay her rent😤😤
Energy? Oh you're one of those lmao.
Nope don't agree with this decision. Yeah he let her keep the ring after breaking up but that was in anticipation of them working it out and getting back together. Once it became clear that wasn't going to happen, he should've been given it back from that opportunist.
it comes down to legality and the fact that the ring is property and was proved to be a gift. Unfortunately he didn’t have the evidence. I do agree the ring should always go back to the person who gave it if the relationship doesn’t work out. Unless otherwise discussed
Exactly 💯
Did you not hear they broke up in 2016? No one anticipates working things out and getting back together with someone for that long.
So if your ex comes back 2 years later and asks for their x box back and you sold it or can't find it, you should give the money back?? Doesnt make sense. He also told her to keep it. If his word was good for the proposal then why isnt it good for giving her the right to keep it?? He shouldn't have told her to keep it and he clearly said he didnt want it but he wanted her
He said"whatever happened after the separation was pure emotional"
sometimes the pain of being alone after being with someone for so long makes people jump into new relationships too soon :(. she should give him the ring back that's terrible of her
Can't understand why some women are so shallow! Why wouldn't you just give the man the ring back on principal alone, and have a clean break? Greedy
Agreed. Let's say it absolutely in no way, shape or form was an engagement ring (I think it was). If he's so adamant about having it back, just give it back, move on, even if you disagree.
Because she is a user. She called him because she knew he would be lonely and vulnerable. Used him for as long as she could.
They are shallow users because men ALLOW them to be...I normally blame the usee as much as the user, but this poor guy was vulnerable, and she was a vulture
That darling elderly gentleman is just so precious! ❤
Well Sir, let that be a lesson to you that you just don't rush and jump into a relationship during a grieving process because you are going to become emotionally codependent and latch on to anybody that will show you the tiniest bit of attention even if they don't have good intentions!
Shame he was 50 when this was shot 😂😂😂😂
I dont see any grieving, if anything he was having fun.
she has that Brigitte Nielsen look
She broke this man heart doowwwwwnn
He STILL aint over her! Watch how he keeps looking at her when he is talking to Doug.
The fact that he couldn’t explain the proposal is kinda strange.
I don’t believe him.
What was said and how it was said is not as important to men
Agreed. While I thought the Defendant took advantage of him, I didn't believe all the things the Plaintiff said.
@@jaynehogue2459 depends on the man
But she later admits it was one
I'm 93, but I don't look it.. priceless!
I really despise this woman. I think she took advantage of him and his grief and is an evil blood sucker
Well hopefully he learned a valuable lesson... not from the verdict but from the whole situation. You can’t rush into love, especially when you’re emotionally unstable. Take time to grieve and to redefine yourself in the absence of your loved one. It would’ve been better to just cultivate a friendship for support and move to romance after processing his loss and getting to know the lady better platonically.
Notice she said that "she" called him after his wife passed. She knew he was a commercial fisherman she also probably thought he came into life insurance money as well. 🤔 Ponder that.
The judge is barefoot😂 Love it.
She has on nude flats.
"Leonard get up!"
Rudeness!!!! Always be kind to your elders no excuses
That’s probably how he spoke to his GF. Now we know why she slept in another room.
I love the plaintiff's friend 🥰
It's SOOOOO an engagement ring !!!! Thats no friendship ring...
Thats a purposal. I am now married and my husband brought baggage into the marriage. When we got engaged he did get down on one knee but we didn't set a date or plan until a year later. Because we had kids to plan around.
@Tiffany A Troll
@Tiffany A She didn’t say that…..
She sold the ring to pay rent, but she didn't pay the damn rent💁🏾♀️
A grieving, needy man PLUS a greedy, opportunistic Karen, == equals disaster
He's lucky to be rid of Cruella.
I love her. The judge gets right to the point. They keep beating around the bush
He jumped into this too quickly. And I thought she gave him some of the money...?
I think she was fighting for disability and broke, she saw a means to an end and jumped on it. Her nonchalant attitude says it all, she just had to take the ring and play along for awhile.
For his part, he hadn't spent nearly the time to grieve before he moved on, I think he was looking for a 2.0 to replace his late wife.
The part that bothers me, is that he stated this woman was his soul mate, an odd statement to make after 34 years of marriage.
That woman is unbelievable
That's what you get for moving on so quickly after 35 years.....sheeesh!
There is something about people and prospective partners that prey on someone who recently becomes widowed. I know two men this happened to. This woman preyed and stuck around long enough to get a ring. Regardless of who broke this off or whose fault the break up was, she should have returned it instead of selling it. Tacky and cold.
She looks like Jason Vorhees's mom!
Pamela. 😆
I know it's "Till death due us part" but dang that was quick!! If I was his dead wife I would've haunted him at night. The disrespect!!!
this woman is a user. The Judge is totally inconsistant with what she normally decides. This is crazy. the guy deserved his ring.
The old man🥺🥺🤗🤗🤗🥰🥰🥰🌹 I just want to hug him and chat with him. He seems bubbly❤️❤️❤️
I like the plaintiff's witness. We should all be that lucky to be like him when we get old.
"He's a clammer."
Underrated sentence
The 'DIAMOND' ring was cracked in half?
🐃💩
what kind of diamond? Very flawed diamond…..
Poor sad man. He was lonely and lost after 35 years of marriage and she took advantage. Hope he finds a caring partner
She’s cold blooded…. Sheesh. She knew who to use.
The Elderly man made me smile so big!
I've never heard of an engagement 💍 party. Is that common 🤔
I'm surprised the old fella could not hear Millian from the bench
Retired 50 years?! Wow.
“I spent $3,400 on this ring. It was a friendship ring” Yeah buddy and the sky is purple
She gave him grief because she didn’t love Guinea! She saw a sucker and rode it out🤷🏽♀️