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Increased SRP but a product that isn’t juiced anymore than previous years, major quality control issues, and my man dropped nearly 1k for this box. Thanks Panini!
I've seen some ROUGH Optic boxes ripped on UA-cam. I can't imagine spending nearly a grand and pulling a veteran sticker auto. I saw someone pulled a White Chocolate and the rest of the box was horrible.
Priced out a lot of collectors at that price point, and should have more than 1 auto for that cost. Always love the look of Optic and I want that Curry insert!
I was in the card game from 2015-2019. I bought hobby boxes with TWO autos for $150. I bought a Carmelo EMINENCE patch auto for $300 off ebay. Now everything went up double/triple. Sure the Melo card went up (dont have it anymore I quit the hobby in 2019) but the MSRP of boxes went up too. $800 for DONRUSS lmfaoooo. Crazy times we’re in. Remember when Kobe (rip) autos were under $500? Remember when Luka and Giannis rookie cards weren’t as much as a Rolex.
A wise man once told me this and I didn’t believe him until my pockets started running dry lol by the time you rip chasing after 1 player you could’ve just bought him single handed lol
Alot pf stupid people out there. U can get the card you want in a 9.5 or 10 already graded fpr what you will pay trying to find it and stacking a bunch of worthless cardboard in your house
I bought all my Luka, Zion, Ja, Trea and other rookies psa 10 before the price went up. Great investment. I don't have any of the new rookies like Lamelo yet because they are asking too much, but by next year their price will drop.
@@deejayy8303 I remember when Donovan Mitchell rookie card was $800 psa 10. Then it took a big drop. I bought it for $70 optic and $160 Prizm rookie. Now the price is going up again. When the new rookies come out those will be the ones with the high prices. I buy a lot on ebay and everyone's rookie card always takes a slight drop when you have a new buzz of rookies in town lol
Really appreciate how you don’t showcase your main hits in all of your thumbnails tbh. That takes away the enjoyment of viewing breaks for me or something I guess.. thanks again for all the great content bro 👍
Retail is always a nice idea and used to be great, but it's obviously not a easy as it used to be either. Unfortunately, unless you have a bot (which in my opinion should literally be illegal), then you likely won't be able to get your hands on much, if any retail product! I know some guys back east have a good chance at Meirs and Walmart, but out west, where im at, we're just screwed! No Target's carry them anymore and even though I've been up between the hours of 3am and 6 am every single week day, just trying to get retail product offline, I've only gotten just a few single blasters over the last few MONTHS. Which is better than nothing, but isn't even really good enough to get a good idea of how the product is, much less enough to chase specific cards you'd like to pull! The hobby has just gone to hell FAST and I now find myself actually looking forward to Fanatics taking over completely! I hope they can figure something out, but with all the big money and big buisness involved now, I doubt us working men will ever be able to enjoy it like we used to. Good luck on your future rips!
I don't know how someone could be such a behide to give you a thumbs down . For everything that you do for the card community and me personally some people have a problem mentally . I guess the old saying is true , " you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all the time ". God bless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I always think about before buying wax, what I could get with that money “850” instead of gambling on ripping wax and getting like a couple optic holo RC’s and terrible colored rookies.
$800 is ridiculous. I was relaly hoping for under 500. Now I wont be buying any Optic hobby. Really sucks man, all I wanna do is collect and have fun ripping but they just jack the prices so high. Really sucks, its my favorite product. Thanks for reviewing though, Pack! Great way to give us a guage to see if its worth it. Thanks!
@@PackmanCards I've got 3 from select basketball that I have to send back. Panini wants me to send them the packaging from the box, along with a copy of the receipt. Never heard about the packaging before, that's a new one.
$800 👀👀👀 My goodness. You're a brave dude Packman. I haven't bought a pack of cards in 15 years. Too much money. Still have my old collection so I pull it out every once in a while. Unfortunately a bunch of money their but none graded. Azubuike of course. No Wiseman or Oturo. SHOCKED. Losing your Mojo.
Really hoping to get my hands on some of this soon. I love the colour that they put into this along with the other crazy parallels. Donruss Optic is definitely a win again this year.
I love that Tyrese Halliburton holo!!! Even with issues still my number one PC player strictly because I used to work with his brother and that’s my dude!😂
Regarding the pushback release.. I truly believe they did it on purpose. Price: They wanted to not only have their own month but to be moved towards the end of 2020-21 Cards. Also recently retail prices of blasters were around 19.99-25.99 now prices on retail has gone up almost 10$. Prestige football for ex at Walm is now 27.99 before taxes.
Opened my first pack of basketball card in 15 years 2 days ago. I've Now bought over 10 packs. I got the fever again. Bought one of these packs and got the signature series daniel gibson sticker autograph. Was this a good pull?
These look nice, but man they are a rough break at current prices! I’m hoping prices start dropping a little on these. $850-$950 seems way too high for Optic
I really love Donruss and Optic. But at these prices, I'll pass. This will be the first time since optic came for basketball that I haven't put the set together.
Nice looking set. Just like absolutely everyone else I think that price is stupid high. If this is a middle of the line box I will not be buying any hobby’s for sure. Hope retail is not so crazy
This was going to be my first big buy this year because I love Optic basketball. I'm a couple hours away from pulling the trigger but now I'm not too sure 💔
Appreciate you! Thanks for doing a review! Man that price is steep and to see so many damaged and off centered cards is rough. With the price is this being so high, retail is going to be super high too! Gracias Amigo! Take care and stay safe!
Yea way too expensive and the condition problems seem to be plentiful. Excited to see retail though. Hopefully it’s not too much $. Thanks for watching!
These prices are insane! I wish everyone in the hobby could get together and boycott, but that would never happen. Thanks for the content Packman, taking one for the team.
Yeah but they will not, people just complain and cry about the prices but the boxes sure seem to sell out rather quickly. I just watched these $800+ Optic hobby boxes the other day on the Panini site sell out in minutes as soon as they became available.
Since I’m reviewing the product, I’ll always get into the info about it first. If you’re not interested in that, feel free to skip to the opening (usually a few minutes in)
I got a courtside lamelo out of a retail select mega and it was the only damaged card in the box with that crease that your haliburton had here...I was so sad. Still am...
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How much would you be willing to sell that curry for, Im interested (the raining 3s holo)
These prices are insane...I'll just keep buying single cards I want
Same. Better strategy and take a hit with a crappy break.
Same here...this is like watching your money go down the drain
Same here.
at least opening is fun but i still agree
Breaking packs is basically just a more interesting form of gambling lol
Increased SRP but a product that isn’t juiced anymore than previous years, major quality control issues, and my man dropped nearly 1k for this box. Thanks Panini!
I've seen some ROUGH Optic boxes ripped on UA-cam. I can't imagine spending nearly a grand and pulling a veteran sticker auto. I saw someone pulled a White Chocolate and the rest of the box was horrible.
Who pulled the j will? I’d like to watch
Priced out a lot of collectors at that price point, and should have more than 1 auto for that cost. Always love the look of Optic and I want that Curry insert!
Yeah im definitely not buying if their was retail maybe. Optic retail has good value atleast for football I still have my mega boxes
Let’s go really like donruss optic
Prices are outrageous!.. If there was a reasonable chance to break even, I’d keep buying boxes.. just can’t do it anymore.
Seriously. I’d be pissed to pay $950 and get these results 😭
I was in the card game from 2015-2019. I bought hobby boxes with TWO autos for $150. I bought a Carmelo EMINENCE patch auto for $300 off ebay. Now everything went up double/triple. Sure the Melo card went up (dont have it anymore I quit the hobby in 2019) but the MSRP of boxes went up too. $800 for DONRUSS lmfaoooo. Crazy times we’re in. Remember when Kobe (rip) autos were under $500? Remember when Luka and Giannis rookie cards weren’t as much as a Rolex.
I love those lime green parallels
Black pandora is my favorite
The cards are nice. I like the black velocity parallel. But at this price, it is brutal and not close to getting money back on this expensive box.
Bottom line, just buy the singles you want from any Panini product.
A wise man once told me this and I didn’t believe him until my pockets started running dry lol by the time you rip chasing after 1 player you could’ve just bought him single handed lol
Alot pf stupid people out there. U can get the card you want in a 9.5 or 10 already graded fpr what you will pay trying to find it and stacking a bunch of worthless cardboard in your house
I bought all my Luka, Zion, Ja, Trea and other rookies psa 10 before the price went up. Great investment. I don't have any of the new rookies like Lamelo yet because they are asking too much, but by next year their price will drop.
@@mariocastillo813 actually I think these are the times to buy basketball once football season is going on tbh
@@deejayy8303 I remember when Donovan Mitchell rookie card was $800 psa 10. Then it took a big drop. I bought it for $70 optic and $160 Prizm rookie. Now the price is going up again. When the new rookies come out those will be the ones with the high prices. I buy a lot on ebay and everyone's rookie card always takes a slight drop when you have a new buzz of rookies in town lol
Really appreciate how you don’t showcase your main hits in all of your thumbnails tbh. That takes away the enjoyment of viewing breaks for me or something I guess.. thanks again for all the great content bro 👍
Thanks a lot!
The centering and dents are a carryover from Optic football... glad they took the time to fix it.
I’m going to save my money until it comes out to retail! Great video!
Thanks!
Retail is always a nice idea and used to be great, but it's obviously not a easy as it used to be either. Unfortunately, unless you have a bot (which in my opinion should literally be illegal), then you likely won't be able to get your hands on much, if any retail product! I know some guys back east have a good chance at Meirs and Walmart, but out west, where im at, we're just screwed! No Target's carry them anymore and even though I've been up between the hours of 3am and 6 am every single week day, just trying to get retail product offline, I've only gotten just a few single blasters over the last few MONTHS. Which is better than nothing, but isn't even really good enough to get a good idea of how the product is, much less enough to chase specific cards you'd like to pull! The hobby has just gone to hell FAST and I now find myself actually looking forward to Fanatics taking over completely! I hope they can figure something out, but with all the big money and big buisness involved now, I doubt us working men will ever be able to enjoy it like we used to. Good luck on your future rips!
Packman buying boxes just to show the community, so inspirational
Look at Pacman, so inspirational
I don't know how someone could be such a behide to give you a thumbs down . For everything that you do for the card community and me personally some people have a problem mentally . I guess the old saying is true , " you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all the time ". God bless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks! I’m grateful for all those who show the support!
Red fast break is actually my favorite parallel if that’s still around.
I always think about before buying wax, what I could get with that money “850” instead of gambling on ripping wax and getting like a couple optic holo RC’s and terrible colored rookies.
Smart man
cant wait to pull the raining 3s ben Simmons
That Lights Out Giannis looks dope as hell!
Me and my sons love your videos keep making amazing content!!! On of my favorite products of the year under 1k 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks a lot!!
Packman imma need you to put some respect on Jaden McDaniels name. It’s not trolling when he will be a Superstar! Top 3 in the class
If you know, you know!
$800 is ridiculous. I was relaly hoping for under 500. Now I wont be buying any Optic hobby. Really sucks man, all I wanna do is collect and have fun ripping but they just jack the prices so high. Really sucks, its my favorite product. Thanks for reviewing though, Pack! Great way to give us a guage to see if its worth it. Thanks!
Yea the price is crazy. Hopefully it comes down soon. Thanks for watching!
The cards def look super clean, prices so crazy for boxes tho that sucks
Optic is the cleanest and best set without a doubt
Would you send those back to panini as factory damaged and ask for a replacement?
Yea I’ll probably send the Haliburton since it’s a pretty good card and has the most notable damage
@@PackmanCards I've got 3 from select basketball that I have to send back. Panini wants me to send them the packaging from the box, along with a copy of the receipt. Never heard about the packaging before, that's a new one.
Price is absolutely INSANE.
not a fan of this product but still watched it to support Mr.Packman😢👌👌👌
Thanks for watching!!!
Serving us people well since 2016 optic
I love optic I’ve only opened one blaster for nfl but it was great
Thanks for a good look at the product. Here's a question: If blasters are $30, would you rather have 28 blasters or 1 hobby box?
Blasters will be like $100-$125 right out the gate you watch 😭😂
You’ve got your hopes way too high if you think Blasters will be 30.
@@Josh_17 Not in the aftermarket, no.
Packman is the GOAT!
❤️
$800 👀👀👀 My goodness. You're a brave dude Packman. I haven't bought a pack of cards in 15 years. Too much money. Still have my old collection so I pull it out every once in a while. Unfortunately a bunch of money their but none graded.
Azubuike of course. No Wiseman or Oturo. SHOCKED. Losing your Mojo.
Im getting into cards and I watch your videos on the boxes im looking at to get a look at what I might get. Earned a new sub
Thanks a lot!
This year's lime has a real nice look.
The parallels look awesome!
these pack wrappers are fire
Really hoping to get my hands on some of this soon. I love the colour that they put into this along with the other crazy parallels. Donruss Optic is definitely a win again this year.
Raining 3s card was pretty dope. Should have been spelled reigning 3s just for steph... xD
The box is a bit rough. Thanks for the product review. 😇
Thanks for watching!
In a box we opened today on sports card zone, wiseman auto / gold came out
🔥🔥🔥
Donruss: 😐
Chrome Donruss: 😀
That was a bummer, especially that Black Velocity Rookie Rubio. Thanks for the video Packman. Hopefully it'll get better.
Of course it was Rookie Rubio 😭
Rookie Rubio
can't beat the optic holo imo, with the exception of the nebula
Definitely a "buy the card you want instead of hoping to get one in a box" type of price
Just started getting into sports cards. Love your vids. Very informative for a newbie.
Thanks packman
Thanks a lot! Glad the vids are helpful!
Optic is awesome but prices are crazy lol I'll wait few months lol
All your hits were RatedRookies that's the positive for sure 👍
Nice product but for the price vs what you pulled NOT WORTH IT!!! Lights out/Raining 3's/Black Velocity look sweet 😍
I love that Tyrese Halliburton holo!!! Even with issues still my number one PC player strictly because I used to work with his brother and that’s my dude!😂
Regarding the pushback release.. I truly believe they did it on purpose. Price: They wanted to not only have their own month but to be moved towards the end of 2020-21 Cards. Also recently retail prices of blasters were around 19.99-25.99 now prices on retail has gone up almost 10$. Prestige football for ex at Walm is now 27.99 before taxes.
Cards look nice!
With the crease on that haliburton card what do you think it’ll grade at?
9
I pulled a redemption card for a 2021 cade cunningham rated rookie signature pink,,any idea on what it's worth
look at packman so inspirational!!
hoping to rip this if there's a retail
release.. fotl and hobby too pricey
optic looks way too fire this year!!
Opened my first pack of basketball card in 15 years 2 days ago. I've Now bought over 10 packs. I got the fever again. Bought one of these packs and got the signature series daniel gibson sticker autograph. Was this a good pull?
Tough box for 850. Definitely hope it goes down in price
love optic, probably my favourite set alongside select but its just way too expensive.
Great video. How do you go about finding boxes at SRP prices? Thanks
It's a decent set, but considering the price, I'd rather pay a bit for something like Spectra, wait for Obsidian, or save for another set.
These look nice, but man they are a rough break at current prices! I’m hoping prices start dropping a little on these. $850-$950 seems way too high for Optic
I really love Donruss and Optic. But at these prices, I'll pass. This will be the first time since optic came for basketball that I haven't put the set together.
Jaden McDaniels is gonna be good
That Curry card is fire!
Thanks!
Nice looking set. Just like absolutely everyone else I think that price is stupid high. If this is a middle of the line box I will not be buying any hobby’s for sure. Hope retail is not so crazy
This was going to be my first big buy this year because I love Optic basketball. I'm a couple hours away from pulling the trigger but now I'm not too sure 💔
I've watched a bunch of breaks, they have mostly been really bad, I would wait
Don’t do it
Yea bro F that lol don’t give in
Yo Packman! Do you know when the retail Optic boxes drop?
Not sure yet but should be soon
One of the best products of the year
This will go way down in price for sure
Appreciate you! Thanks for doing a review! Man that price is steep and to see so many damaged and off centered cards is rough. With the price is this being so high, retail is going to be super high too! Gracias Amigo! Take care and stay safe!
Yea way too expensive and the condition problems seem to be plentiful. Excited to see retail though. Hopefully it’s not too much $. Thanks for watching!
Where do you get the SRP considering Panini sells them direct for $850?
Definitley not worth what you paid! So so box! Will wait for retail, and singles. Thank you for sharing and taking the hit!
Looks good but hard to see paying $800 for it
Hard is an understatement.
That’s like a $100 box on a good day.
Such awful value.
Optic is beautiful, can't wait to get my hands on some.
These prices are insane! I wish everyone in the hobby could get together and boycott, but that would never happen. Thanks for the content Packman, taking one for the team.
Yea prices are crazy. Just seems to get worse and worse with every release. Hopefully we can see it improve soon. Thanks for watching!
Yeah but they will not, people just complain and cry about the prices but the boxes sure seem to sell out rather quickly. I just watched these $800+ Optic hobby boxes the other day on the Panini site sell out in minutes as soon as they became available.
curious what the odds for holo cards is?
You should start a G League... I do like the mirror backing does a clean card.. Love the vids keep um coming
Thanks!
That Azubuike sig though...🤨
I wish I could blow $850 on an optic hobby box but I’ll take you opening one
I like packman, but paying $950 for a box with one auto is insane.
Must have alot of disposable income nowadays
@@eaglez1901 I have a lot also, but won’t be lining panini or scalpers pockets.
Yea I’m out on basketball this season kinda weake draft class too. And I can save money for the releases I really enjoy lol
That’s outrageous how much those boxes cost. U did pull some nice cards. I like those parallels and inserts. Definitely not worth the price.
I wish you opened Clearly Donruss more frequently
Like the vids but I wish he would open the pack or the box earlier in the video
Since I’m reviewing the product, I’ll always get into the info about it first. If you’re not interested in that, feel free to skip to the opening (usually a few minutes in)
Thinking about buying a FOTL hobby of these ...how can I tell if they are authentic
Love optic easily my favorite looking product. Unreal the prices on these boxes tho but now that retail keeps going up and up these may the way.
Card binder reveal???
Vucevic still on magic? Error card
Big release. I’m very interested to see how the price changes
Hopefully it goes down to a more affordable price point!
I love optic lfg
Graet video packman and keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot!
I hope fanatics fixes the overpriced issue. Idk how they would do it but they have a while to figure it out.
jj redick was the hit of the box
😴
Solid pulls man 👌🏼
Thanks!
im glad this product isent juiced like select is.
Retail is the only way to go imo
Great video I enjoyed dude!
Thanks!!
Beautiful cards but I would be upsettttt if I spent $950 and the best card I got was an Udoka Azubuike auto.
Yea this one is really rough for the price. Got some solid cards but nothing that got us even close to making the $ back
I got a courtside lamelo out of a retail select mega and it was the only damaged card in the box with that crease that your haliburton had here...I was so sad. Still am...
It’s usually the star cards that get damaged, same for Topps
Your best card in box is Haliburton RC holo