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idea for a battle which would be cool, and cool to be part of, Packman v packfam. You take names of packfam (UA-cam channel members) that would buy the box and randomly pick a member. (Give them 12 hours to get in contact and send you funds to buy the box.) You buy your self a box. Bust both boxs. Compare boxs. Like normal, send out the box the packfam member brought. You keep yours.
2019 wins but these were pretty rough for the price. This is why people are willing to pay 3x for retail. Less upside but you aren't going to be out $1k with nothing to show for it.
Ya they can control the machines that cut cards and dial it in but they produce so much it just happens that's why they do those premium fotl boxes and put the nicely cut ones in it
Wow. That first box was rough. Reminds me of the kind of box that made me loose interest in the hobby for quite a number of years back when I was in high school. My box of Fleer at that time though only cost me like $50 (but $50 for me at that time was tons). Best card was valued at $0.75 in Beckett Magazine.
Yeah it does seem like there are a lot more products this year compared to last year and the year before. Its almost as if panini is cashing in on the hype.
This year’s basketball has been hard for me also. My only saving grace this year has been baseball for me which is ironic since baseball’s rookie class wasn’t great. Funny how that works lol
Love it. Coolass vid PackMan! Really enjoy the VS. series! 🤑 Retail VS. would be awesome too. All the off stamped rookies though! 😡 Come on Panini!! Worst box of Optic I've ever seen opened in my life!! Yup!! I bet.
This is why I dont get the hate for NBA Premium Stock, every "premium" I've encountered has been terrible with inserts and parallel rates (Topps Chrome, Prizm, Optic, Bowman Chrome) Premium Stock actually at least was very minimal with inserts.
2020-21... seriously what's up with all of the rated rookie cards being mis-stamped or whatever it's called? I can't imagine paying that kind of money for this quality of a product.
I guess I'll say the 19 20 ..pretty discouraging to see when you've be saving up for one of the recent optics..if I got n o numbered off a hobby box I'd be pretty ticked.
Also ordered one of the megas and then looked at your recap and saw they didn't even have numbered..that was a serious face palm. Gotta do more research before ordering.
Can you explain the Team selecting and random selection at the beginning of the videos? Does that like signify what people get what players you pull from certain teams?
Hey packman, I was wondering if you could give a setup tour? And if you could also show us what phone holder you use and what microphone you use. If you use any lighting tricks as well you could put that in there. Just a little video suggestion 😅 would really appreciate it, thanks man!!
This would’ve been good video at start of 2020 but feel like a box/pack from each year for past 10 years or something would be cool. But also expensive.
PacMan it’s been awhile for me, but still support by watching and hitting that like button. Second box was better than first but it’s not saying too much on both! Good luck next time! Aloha n mahalo, YWilson
2019-20 draft class will end up being the better class and are so much cheaper at the moment. Outside Bane Vassel and Bay prices are too high on this class
I was in a 2x 20-21 Optic fast break box break on the weekend and the only fast break card in the first box was the auto. Breaker felt so bad he opened a third box and only the Auto and the inserts were fast break. Optic been really disappointing this year.
I've opened flea market $.25 grab bags better than that 20-21 optic hobby box... I'd send this in to Panini, after filing a damaged cards claim, because I set them on fire to end the video.
Panini should have to make public apologies every time a box with about a $500 SRP breaks like that 2020-21 box did. Yeesh. Optic is so tough; I've seen so many godawful boxes which makes me really appreciate the great Optic singles when I see them.
Packman, you should do a new video series where you highlight your top 10ish cards of each NBA team. Like one video per team so we could see some of the cool stuff in your PC. Just an idea. Love the videos man
I cant call it bro. I think they were both bad. Maybe 19-20 was a hair better. I like the auto in 19-20. I like those retro series autos. Of good players obviously but still like the design.
Don’t sleep on saben lee bro. Dude dropped 42 in the g league and he’s only there cuz detroits stupid. Once they get rid of Cory Joseph and frank jackson it’s saben lee szn
*** PACKMAN *** Question for you.....I have about a 3 inch stack of Rated Rookies from this year's Optic. About 1/2 of the stack is really cut back, like 90/10 maybe 95/5 either to the right, or up or down and to the right. Some are commons, but some are pretty good rookies, like 2 Wiseman, Maxey, Stewart, and a bunch of other 2nd and 3rd tier rookies, etc. Will Panini replace those since they are so badly OC? Or is that just not a thing they will replace? I can't stand that they don't care more about their cards that so many Prizm and Optic, two of the most popular sets, always have OC issues, but these are really bad. What do you think? Thanks
u should do a challenge with ms packman where u have to open a box and have the choice to stop at any point when u have a good card or keep going and then u reveal the cards to each other and whoever has the better card wins
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idea for a battle which would be cool, and cool to be part of,
Packman v packfam.
You take names of packfam (UA-cam channel members) that would buy the box and randomly pick a member. (Give them 12 hours to get in contact and send you funds to buy the box.)
You buy your self a box.
Bust both boxs.
Compare boxs. Like normal,
send out the box the packfam member brought. You keep yours.
You should do 2010 blaster box and all the rest every year till now!! That would be a fire vid just like all your other vids🔥🔥
@@brendanhedger7193 that sounds like a lot of fun!
Prizm vs optic vs select
Eminence vs. 2017 Poop donruss
Breaking: Despite Ms. Packman not being in the battle, she has still once again beaten Packman
2019 wins but these were pretty rough for the price. This is why people are willing to pay 3x for retail. Less upside but you aren't going to be out $1k with nothing to show for it.
Both of those were tough! I guess the luck from last night’s breaks didn’t carry over. Nice video though! The real winner was Panini! 🤦🏻♂️
Thanks! We were all out of luck for this one!
No doubt panini won on this one .
I’m pretty convinced that all rookies cards now are purposely off centered and baldy misprinted to lower the chances of pulling a gem
Ya they can control the machines that cut cards and dial it in but they produce so much it just happens that's why they do those premium fotl boxes and put the nicely cut ones in it
I like this box battle idea, but maybe you should do 19-20 vs. 20-21 blasters or mega boxes. That way you’re not risking $1800 on a bunch of junk lol
That first one is every hobby box I’ve ever opened ever. Lol
The quality control on that 20/21 box was nothing short of impeccable. 10’s everywhere.
18:50 I remember when golden state drafted Poole I was absolutely raging about not picking keldon johnson
I mean Keldon has been really good as well.
Both Poole and Keldon are very good and promising young players
That first box was bad. But this one time I walked in on my grandmother having a shower, so no it is not the worst box I have ever seen - but close!
Wow. That first box was rough. Reminds me of the kind of box that made me loose interest in the hobby for quite a number of years back when I was in high school. My box of Fleer at that time though only cost me like $50 (but $50 for me at that time was tons). Best card was valued at $0.75 in Beckett Magazine.
Just finished the Donruss Choice video, now I get to watch an Optic video! Great video!
Thanks!!
Who ever you think wins should go against Lukas class if you’re able to do that, I think it would be a good video
Luka is his own class, I love Ja and Lamelo but Luka is too clutch for them
Yeah it does seem like there are a lot more products this year compared to last year and the year before. Its almost as if panini is cashing in on the hype.
I like the pack battles. Uninspiring boxes but number 2 a little better
This year’s basketball has been hard for me also. My only saving grace this year has been baseball for me which is ironic since baseball’s rookie class wasn’t great. Funny how that works lol
I like the 19-20 optic hobby more IMO
OMG that first box was absolutely atrocious!! I wasn't impressed with the 19 - 20 box either. Thanks for the entertainment... On your dime.
idk how to prove it but i like that idea that product this year has definitely felt “watered down”
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Love it. Coolass vid PackMan! Really enjoy the VS. series! 🤑 Retail VS. would be awesome too. All the off stamped rookies though! 😡 Come on Panini!! Worst box of Optic I've ever seen opened in my life!! Yup!! I bet.
Thanks! The 20-21 box was all time bad!
Tough breaks , the 19-20 box is definitely better but the bar is so low for both of those boxes . Great video though.
I love this idea. But I’m split 50/50 on how the rookie rated look.
Do you get these packs in a store or online
2020 optic box was an absolute disgrace. Panini should be ashamed
2019-20 was a little less meh than the 2020-21. Still loved the battle.
This is why I dont get the hate for NBA Premium Stock, every "premium" I've encountered has been terrible with inserts and parallel rates (Topps Chrome, Prizm, Optic, Bowman Chrome) Premium Stock actually at least was very minimal with inserts.
I like your idea 💡 draft class battles 👌
2019-2020 wins but not by much I'd say.
I'd like to see a National Treasures versus!! 🔥🔥🔥
2020-21... seriously what's up with all of the rated rookie cards being mis-stamped or whatever it's called? I can't imagine paying that kind of money for this quality of a product.
Prizm and optic are very hard very big set!
Sheesh!😡The good thing is there’s only up after those boxes!! Keep up the great content & GL on the next rip!!
Thanks! Hoping for much better luck next time!
Remember the good old days? 2 autos and a mem for under $200. But I like base I like whole sets.
should definitely do football vs basketball like this. what's more worth the money. or do boombox vs between the sports
Do
More battles
i like 2021 Silvers better, i really dig the whole card holos...but i like last years design better...a whole hobby of mis-stamped rooks tho, damn
Loving the vs. series man! I think I like the 2020-21 Optic better.
Thanks!
Gotta go with 2019-20 for sure thanks for sharing! 🏀🏀🏀
Thanks for watching!
I guess I'll say the 19 20 ..pretty discouraging to see when you've be saving up for one of the recent optics..if I got n o numbered off a hobby box I'd be pretty ticked.
Also ordered one of the megas and then looked at your recap and saw they didn't even have numbered..that was a serious face palm. Gotta do more research before ordering.
I love the vs series definitely one of the best keep it up
Thanks a lot!
Can you explain the Team selecting and random selection at the beginning of the videos? Does that like signify what people get what players you pull from certain teams?
Hey packman, I was wondering if you could give a setup tour? And if you could also show us what phone holder you use and what microphone you use. If you use any lighting tricks as well you could put that in there. Just a little video suggestion 😅 would really appreciate it, thanks man!!
This would’ve been good video at start of 2020 but feel like a box/pack from each year for past 10 years or something would be cool. But also expensive.
2019 was cheaper when it came out too I think I only spent $450 on a hobby box last year compared to the 1,000 2021 was
PacMan it’s been awhile for me, but still support by watching and hitting that like button. Second box was better than first but it’s not saying too much on both! Good luck next time! Aloha n mahalo, YWilson
Thanks a lot! Hoping for much better luck next time!
19-20 with the win
2019-20 draft class will end up being the better class and are so much cheaper at the moment. Outside Bane Vassel and Bay prices are too high on this class
Love these videos I really want to see more breaks vs hobby
Thanks! We’ll definitely have more in the future!
Do this same thing but optic football?
Cole Anthony so far this year:
19.5 ppg
6.9 rebounds
5.4 assists
At least some respect for the dude
2019-20, hands down
Keep the videos coming man! Love them.
Thanks!!
Packman coming in with the heat 🔥🔥🔥
Video concept 10/10 really like the year to year comparison, that 20-21 box hurt my soul wish you could have got something better my guy!
Thanks! Hoping for better luck next time!
Great series!
Thanks!
19-20 had more value than 20-21. Sucks you didn't get Ja, Zion or Lamelo, Ant-Man. I still think 20-21 has better inserts.
You should do the same thing with any brand. But go pack to pack and keep score by pack.
19-20, nickeil man he has been destroying on fantasy for me so definitely 19-20
2011 vs 2013 nfl prism would be awesome
Football vs Basketball would be fun
19-20 wins and I would buy the inserts for 10
Cool idea... maybe open both boxes and do pack v pack battle? 2020 then 2021 back to 2020... etc
Love the battle 19-20 won
20-21 was the worst hobby pull of all time. It didn’t take much for 2019-2020 to beat it.
ive missed big in every optic break. select was amazing. Optic is a yikes for me.
I was in a 2x 20-21 Optic fast break box break on the weekend and the only fast break card in the first box was the auto. Breaker felt so bad he opened a third box and only the Auto and the inserts were fast break. Optic been really disappointing this year.
I've opened flea market $.25 grab bags better than that 20-21 optic hobby box... I'd send this in to Panini, after filing a damaged cards claim, because I set them on fire to end the video.
😂
Great content once again thank you for making such cool and expensive videos
Thanks for watching!
Send the first box back to Panini....WOW
You should battle with revolutions. That would be sick.
I’d love to do one with revolution!
Panini wins another round.
Panini should have to make public apologies every time a box with about a $500 SRP breaks like that 2020-21 box did. Yeesh. Optic is so tough; I've seen so many godawful boxes which makes me really appreciate the great Optic singles when I see them.
Packman, you should do a new video series where you highlight your top 10ish cards of each NBA team. Like one video per team so we could see some of the cool stuff in your PC. Just an idea. Love the videos man
Thanks! That’d be a lot of fun!
It seems like the mega boxes are better
2019-20 doesn’t just win over 2020-21, but over every draft class ever!
Wow... I would be so incredibly mad if I bought a 800 dollar box and every single rookie was off stamped. Absolutely pathetic by Panini
I really love your content! keep it up!!!
Thanks!!
I can’t wait for this years draft class to come out I want a Scottie Barnes card sooo bad lol
Ill pay you 10 dollars for that stack for sure. Make it 20 with that saben lee
I cant call it bro. I think they were both bad. Maybe 19-20 was a hair better. I like the auto in 19-20. I like those retro series autos. Of good players obviously but still like the design.
That Ja you got is sick!
Man if I paid $500-$600 for that hobby box and pulled absolutely nothing, I'd be so mad. I feel they're overprinting everything now.
2019-20 because of the nickeil
you should do this with football too!
The 2020-21 was BRUTAL.....
Hobby always has a higher ceiling and a lower bottom in my opinion.
Just opening the 19-20 box is win over that horrible box
Epic
Would love to see football vs basketball!
Honestly, the only winner is Panini
At least saben is crushing it in the g league and will get pt soon
OUCH..!!! 😲 😱 😲 😱 🗑 🔥
Don’t sleep on saben lee bro. Dude dropped 42 in the g league and he’s only there cuz detroits stupid. Once they get rid of Cory Joseph and frank jackson it’s saben lee szn
Congrats on getting some “Ghost” Rated Rookies lol
QC seems to not be on the minds of Panini
18-19 easy
How can the US currency be cut efficiently but these companies can’t cut for shhhhhhhh-
*** PACKMAN *** Question for you.....I have about a 3 inch stack of Rated Rookies from this year's Optic. About 1/2 of the stack is really cut back, like 90/10 maybe 95/5 either to the right, or up or down and to the right. Some are commons, but some are pretty good rookies, like 2 Wiseman, Maxey, Stewart, and a bunch of other 2nd and 3rd tier rookies, etc. Will Panini replace those since they are so badly OC? Or is that just not a thing they will replace? I can't stand that they don't care more about their cards that so many Prizm and Optic, two of the most popular sets, always have OC issues, but these are really bad. What do you think? Thanks
i like this idea i thin its gonna be cool
Sick video concept!
Thanks!
u should do a challenge with ms packman where u have to open a box and have the choice to stop at any point when u have a good card or keep going and then u reveal the cards to each other and whoever has the better card wins
Probably could have had better luck with a mega or a cello pack honestly