Oops lemme clarify something at 8:50 ish - I misspoke I was saying there’s no way anyone can deny that sounds good or can say it’s composed poorly - huge misspeak there.
I don't really ever take the Game Awards seriously. It's nice if you kind of treat it for what it is, which is a non-serious awards show meant for entertainment.
i mean yeah but at the same time it's just kind of like... why. why did this become so dissappointing LMAO 😭 i just wish the less popular games got in there a few times
@@karbyboi8489 I love Xb3's soundtrack, but GoW Ragnarok I think was a fine choice. It has way less overall music, but each piece was more impactful as a result. Like the track that plays when Kratos blows the Gjallarhorn was *electrifying.* Unforgettable moment for me, really. The fact that XB3 got nominated I think is fair enough. And let's remember, Nier Automata won in 2017, and FFVII Remake won in 2020, and it was up against TLoU2 which was the industry darling that year. So I think they definitely take it seriously, it was just a really tight race. Same with Elden Ring and Ragnarok being neck and neck for GotY itself. You gotta pull yourself out of your head a bit and realize that it's not a popularity contest, because if it was, CoD games would be sweeping awards left and right. Tons of people play CoD, but they don't rate it very highly. On the other hand, not that many people played FFVII Rebirth, but the people that did overwhelmingly rated it VERY positively. The math just doesn't add up if you really think it's about popularity.
I disagree whole heartedly that Rebirth's OST isn't entirely cohesive. Maybe its because you didn't experience it through gameplay, but everything works so well for the moments those songs appear. There are some occasional surprise pop songs for side quests or an occasional goofy song for a goofy moment, but they all still fit the theme due to the world they represent. Midgar has some beautiful scores when in serious story moments, or exploring the natural world. But the world is also overtaken by technology and industry. So the pop songs and the occasional electronic music work really well as sort of an intentional juxtaposition.
That silent hill narrative question is WHY I don't want remakes/remasters in most categories. Music is good sure, but they should have their own category. Maybe even a DLC cat if there are enough in any year. I don't want seasons to be a contender at ALL that is absurd. Best ongoing game is ALWAYS a let down for "why is this here? corpo pampering?"
What would you say about FF7 Remake/Rebirth? Sure that these are based on the old story, but do you think they change enough to be warranted as a new story? Personally I think it does, but I'd love to know your opinion as someone that does agree with you on basically 1:1 remakes
idk i mostly disagree here. i will agree that simple remasters shouldnt qualify because theyre typically the same exact game, just improved for modern systems. but remakes can be almost entirely different games and i feel like that should qualify as a contender
@@Quetzalma I honestly have avoided looking much at it until I play it myself. I haven't played FF7 original yet either, still finishing 6 now. I can't give a real answer to that yet.
I'd rather support "The REAL Game Awards" by Side Scrollers... the votes will be by US, not "a chosen panel/judges"...as it should be. TGA has stunk of corporate meddling and lack of soul (and gamer influence) since day one. The living embodiment of: "How do you do, fellow gamers? I too play the vido gams!"
@@Talundor you'll find them by looking for this years voting jury. Funnily enough it was revealed that community votes only actually account for 10% of combined votes
@@Eoryu because never before was the jury so biased. More than half of it are game news articles which trashed some of the contestants for months and praised others unjustly. Of course people would love vox populi to be more pronounced after knowing that.
@@13-bit-kitten well that’s fair, but some people are acting like the 10% thing is some nefarious hidden plot about the game awards, when it’s always been decided this way. Many people have criticized the game awards too every year for their picks and some of the winners, it just feels even more skewed this year because despite quite a number of hits, there were also a staggering number of misses that led to a year that feels like one of the worst in gaming history.
I keep being surprised that Manor Lords was nominated in multiple categories. It still feels like a small project no one knows about despite the fact that it has millions of players. It's a City Builder with RTS elements, a commendable dedication to being in line with what we know about history and a truly gorgeous OST that I highly recommend anyone give a listen.
I'd heard of Metaphor ReFantasio before, but never saw or heard anything from the actual game. Warriors in Arms is one of the coolest pieces of video game music I've heard recently. I like it so much that the game is now at the top of my list of games to play.
The Game Awards get a lot less interesting when you realize that the results are 90% decided by a judging panel and 10% by the user poll, so the poll exclusively exists to drum up user interaction so they feel invested and involved.
gonna copy and paste most of my comment from another thread: Black Myth Wukong, a game that a lot of outlets trashed unjustly, still got a nomination, and Dragon Age Veilgaurd, which a lot of those same outlets were championing, got almost no nominations. That's the power of aggregate scores. There are traditional web media outlets, youtubers, and everything in between, as well as international outlets too. I really don't get how anyone could have a problem with this idea. If most of the vote was by the populace, what you would get is an actual popularity contest, because you would get streamers mobilizing their base to spam vote for their favorite game. In an ideal world, every single person who is voting on the awards would have played ever single game this year and also enjoy every single genre equally. That way, the calculus for best game becomes: within the standards of [X] genre, how good was this game? Then, in aggregate, in terms of pure enjoyment, which one of THOSE games was the MOST enjoyable? THAT is the goal of the awards show. Now, this is clearly an impossible goal from the get-go. THUS, the job that Geoff has is to find a way to get the outcome to reflect that ideal state as closely as possible. I think the most obvious way you do something like that is by weighting the scores towards the group of people that's actually playing ALL of the games. As an example, every review outlet had one of their staffers play FFVII Rebirth AND Black Myth Wukong, but despite Wukong having 20 times the number of players, it has a significantly lower score on metacritic. Now you can say "biased games journalists don't count!" except for the fact that the user score on Metacritic is almost exactly the same as the critic score (83 to 81). Compare that to Rebirth whose user score is 90 and critic score is 92. So, once again, if player's choice was where most of the votes came from, Wukong would win by sheer virtue of the fact that it's mega popular in China. Think of it like the electoral college in the US. If we went by popular vote, it would be California and New York vs Texas and Florida, winner takes all. The states with a smaller population have disproportionately more of a voice precisely so that they don't get drowned out by the fact that more people live in the cities. In the same way, a game like FFVII Rebirth which far fewer people have played needs some way for its actual quality to be fairly assessed with the same standards that are being applied to a game like Wukong. Thus, the only fair way to do that is to give more weight to the votes of people that have played BOTH Wukong AND FFVII Rebirth. Well who tend to be the people that have actually played all of the games? It's the critics. I know some people may not like this reality, but if you just sit and think about it, this is actually the best way to do it, even if it doesn't feel like it. You just have to spend some time thinking about the alternatives and you will quickly see that they are all far worse.
The Game Awards is always a mess. The fact that a game can be released a day after TGA nominees have been decided but before the eligibility period for the next year's TGA nominations begins is simply ridiculous. They did that last year, but I don't know if they've done it this year too.
i've accepted that TGA is not the real game awards. the voting committee is biased and out of touch as hell, and that is clear when you see the nominations for best ongoing game, past and present, Newsweek being a member, and IGN being a member when you see how they judge games like Wukong. they rush people out of their moment on stage like they can't even care about respecting and honouring the award winners, which is what the TGA pretend they made the event for. they hold the event in the year, excluding any games that may be released in December, again going against their claim that they want to honour all the greatest games of the year, more like they want to capitalize on the winter sales season rather than that. the answer to fix the extra time used on winner speeches is to cut down the stupid categories no one cares about like esports or best online influencer. this is about honouring the best of the best artists behind the games, not about stupid influencers and esports or capitalizing on the winter sales. TGA is a fraud for what they claim they do any of this for, and i skip the event and watch the summary videos people upload the next day.
The same seven or eight games getting nominations across the board is so frustrating. There should be more variety. Yes, some games are worthy of getting multiple award categories, but still. When your "Best Game Direction" and "Game Of The Year" nominee lists are *the exact same,* something is wrong. Last year had this problem, but not to this extent. Last year's biggest problem was the rushed acceptance speeches. This year is looking to be the culmination of these gradually amassing issues, and it annoys me greatly. EDIT: That's not even getting into the discussion of how games that release in November or December are almost certainly s.o.l. for nominations. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 released just this week, and it should have been in the nominations for at least Action-Adventure.
on the topic of stellar blade vs VIIRebirth, maybe its because of VII being prexisting with its soundscape and VIIR so far has consistently played with those tunes, alongside the minigames too which each have their own musical elements, while SB its varied, but consistent to the scenario its made for?
Your point about the low quality VSTs is SO TRUE. For me it's entirely been from Genshin. I am just so used to hearing pristine woodwinds, brass, and strings every day that anything less starts to grate on my ears. I'm rooting for FFVII Rebirth for this year's Soundtrack of the Year (only because I haven't played Stellar Blade yet, but I hear incredible things about the music), but there are quite a few pieces in it that are using really low quality synths and it does drag down my feelings about it a bit. That said, there are plenty of pure electronic pieces and actually high quality synths/real orchestras being used that, overall, I would still personally rate it very highly. Metaphor was disappointing to me for similar reasons. I think I didn't care as much in Persona 5 because the jazz fusion style lent itself well to a lot of purely synthetic instruments or electric guitars (which are easier to simulate), but in Metaphor, I agree, when there are no vocals, I am really not into any of the very fake orchestral textures. The vocals do literally ALL of the heavy lifting for the whole soundtrack, imo. EDIT: I do heavily agree though that the creativity on display from Shoji Meguro is really ingenious. Give him Masashi Hamauzu's studio setup and everything would be perfect.
I highly agree with you on them just choosing very popular and flashy names games. One that comes to mind is Suzerain: Rizia OST. (I heavily recommend listening to the Pinnacle from SuzerainOST) It may just be me but, as a PGR player, I felt that music category in Mobile games, or anything outside of PC and mainstream cosole game, as I feel sad not to see inclusion such as PGR and ZZZ.
I know it would never make a GOTY list but I really wish the UFO 50 soundtrack could get some recognition. 361 tracks by one guy for fifty different games in completely different genres. There's everything from retro bangers to bizarre out-of-time detuned ambient pieces. It's mind-blowing how good all of it is. (Just listen to the Mooncat tracks. Wow.) And I think he did all the sound effects too!
usada pekora being nominated is kinda wild for an american/global content creator/streamer awards since she is japanese and doesnt speak much english outside of her attempts at communicating with non-japanese people from hololive (the virtual-youtuber organization she is part of), most notably moona hoshinova from indonesia. pekora does have a huge dedicated following and lots of people making translated clips for different languages beside japanese
also, the clip you watched of pekora was her playing a fanmade game called holocure which is a vampire survivors style game where your choice of start character matters a whole lot and it has almost all talents from hololive, includes 2 of 4 generations of eng/glo talents, all 3 generations of indonesian talents and recently updated to include up to 4th generation japanese talents and has lots of references to stuff that has happened on their streams or the talents personalities. last year, another vtuber (virtual youtuber) called ironmouse won the same category but at least ironmouse is puerto rican so she speaks english normally
I literally cannot believe No Rest for the Wicked did not get nominated for Art Direction, and have been told "oh it's in Early Access so isn't eligible" or "It's playerbase isn't big enough" when Manor Lords is nominated in 2 categories despite being in EA, and a game like Neva with a highest playercount of 1200 gets nominated. This year is such an unmitigated shitshow. Wayfinder should have been nominated for art as well.
It's crazy that an Early Access game was nominated; I don't think it makes sense to nominate any game until it hits 1.0. (Especially No Rest for the Wicked imo that game is really rough.) And as Marco says popularity should not drive the picks.
16:41 Its a big big big difference how and where a music is orchestrated or recorded. Is it on a computer, large theater, large symphony, small symphony? The best way I personally can tell the difference to others (as it personally is one of my biggest gripes) compare the opening Star Wars: The Force Awakens fanfare that is used on the official soundtrack version to the one used in concerts, symphonies, and previous films. Its very very obvious that (for that specific song) it was either dulled down or completely made digital. Star Wars' opening fanfare is bombastic as the movies themselves, when George made them, had opera in mind. The music directly tags along on the journey as you do, and almost could tell you the entire story if you mute the dialog. Very dynamic moments were the music is feeling exactly what the characters are feeling and continues to do so for their entire stage moments. This is why it was such a big gripe for me that so much of the three new movies soundtrack were obviously more digital than other songs in the same film. There is a level of depth and pressure that you don't get with digital as it can't harmonize and blend echos the same way a symphony can. This is also why its a big deal for certain symphonies to play in certain venues. How sound naturally reverbs plays a big part is carrying the feeling of the music. Final note, this sounds super prestigious but this also messed with me greatly when I used to play piano. When using certain keyboard setups (no matter how expensive) when you stop holding the pedal the notes would immediately stop blending and being held. Like a full stop. Meanwhile on even the dinkiest stringed piano you can mess around and blend keys by fluttering the pedal. Totally different sound outputs between digital based soundtracks.
man, why isn't Marco as judge for the game awards lol. At least for the musical score section. Though, I guess it's not needed. The Meatball doing incredible work here already. I just hope the judges are being as thoughtful as Marco is with his analyses. This vid is pretty cool though, touching on each of the ost's from the nominees. I've personally also been listening through some of the ost's to check and see if my choice for the award is justified, so it's nice having Marco go over it a bit as well.
I kinda wish there was a little more variety in the nominations to be completely frank. Until Then, In Stars and Time are both wonderful indie games that at least deserve to be nominated for a few categories here.
i honestly fully believe that metaphor deserves at the very least the art direction award, i was blown away by all of it, the menus, the transitions between screens, the ui, the designs... there's just too much to go into for a single comment but. i just think it's so special and unique that it deserves that win. i already know nothing will get a win on actual merits when the player votes are barely a drop though, it's incredibly disappointing and if it wasn't for new games announcements i wouldn't even look at the game awards
The thing that gets me about the game awards is that they only have the orchestra play selections from the GOTY nominated games and they notably leave out any games that happened to be nominated for SCORE and not for GOTY. Like come on... you already have the orchestra in the building and you have a category centered around MUSIC... let us hear it! Last year it meant we didn't get to hear anything from FFXVI, this year it means we won't get to hear from Silent Hill or Stellar Blade...
Marco the sad reality is that the game awards have only ever really been about Jeff Keighley's ego he always wanted the awards to be a hollywoodesque gala affair and loathed the gaming community that came with the games getting awards
Black Myth Wukong was so underwhelming.....It does one thing best in class ( visuals - environ/characters), the rest are so....average ( combat, level design, sound design, narrative). They had such potential to tell an epic tale...with the source material they had, but spent it all on visual fidelity.
@@jaydunna2645 THANK YOU!! finally someone with some balls, 100% agree combat, level design, and narrative have been done better by similar games regarding mythology or history( with a spin) such as nioh2( I'll never shut up about how it's just superior).
iver actually stated this. on its surface it's very average. as a vehicle for storytelling and visuals and design and high highs it's a triumph. the combat is nothing crazy. it doesn't revoilutionize the genre but it does do the things it does well as mentioned insanely well.
The Game Awards is, basically: "Pay us and we will put you in a catgeory", which is why most categories are just the same games. All Geoff cares about is money.
Do a reaction to arcane its gonna be one of the best things you gave time to, the music too is insane (arcane haters are just league of legends haters lol)
I don't know why I can say "I don't like classical music" and like all the "classical-like" music I hear in video games (especially I find the classical reimagining so cool like the Beethoven rock battle theme in Genshin). Maybe it's something different about the melody or how it's portrayed in regular "classical" music? I think that the music is made for an audience that sits there for hours, and listens intently, so there is a lot of gradual amplification and nuances, while I think video game music are often more direct, and as a result, more melodic, less lengthy.
Unfortunately the majority of award shows in general skew heavily towards popularity more-so than any other criteria. People watch these kinds of things to see the things they like get rewarded, if unknown or niche things were to win, less people would watch, which is a little sad since the awards themselves are often taken as a stamp of quality instead of what they really are, a stamp of popularity.
What's funny is that Geoff knew people were going to go after him since he is the face of the event and had to preface by saying he is not part of the committee.
My favorite FF game is FFVII, but, i don't think a re-make has to be on a game awards other than as a classic reference, the game awards feela more like the Oscars now days, a popularity contest, and no a good though and really critical point of view, and as you said remakes should be on a category and no alongs side new ips, because we all know nostalgia always wins... Unfortunately, lol and the dlc category... Ok ok but if they gonna do that then where is phantom liberty? Nah, a joke, a bad bad joke. The best award is us enjoying the games
At this point game awards overall is just a popularity contest. Doesn't really matter if the game deserves the award or even the nomination, as long as it's big, flashy and popular, it's gonna get thrown into the triple A circlejerk with maybe 1 token indie game just existing there.
The complete lack of SMTV: Vengeance in any category, ESPECIALLY music, is depressing. Kozuka wrote one of the greatest and most technically incredible OSTs ever and he just gets shafted, by the nominees and this comment section since no one's talking about it lmao
Different comment for a different thing, 5:50 THANK YOU. I wanted FF7, remade for people who never got to experience it, not FF7 with an entirely different plot.
honestly i dont even go there for the awards because i know it's all shit i could care less about. i'm there for any new game announcements that i might find interesting
1:08 I will fight from this hill as I have since it started, The GotY nominee celebration orchestra has been borderline offensive since 2020. Before that point, the Orchestra played a song from each game as faithfully as possible, but starting from 2020, they introduced a "Game Awards Leitmotif" underbeat that obliterates the actual intended soundscape of the songs. Maybe "obliterates," is a little hyperbolic, but it serves to demonstrate how disruptive to the experience this small addition they implemented has been for me. I hope they get rid of it this year, but I don't have high hopes.
16:41 I don't think that's elitist at all.There is a reason why video game orchestras are becoming so popular, gamers want to hear the music they firat experienced in their favorite games realized to their fullest potential which is typically a orchestrated live performance. Most games just don't have the resources to orchestrate their soundtracks.
You conviced me why this Game Awards is the worst yet, it feels so corprate without a real intention on what a game is or its catagory Multiversus alreadly got nomintaed the year is was reavled so it gets another one just because it fully came out? Capcoms collection isn't a new game Shaodow of the Erdtree is fantastic but isn't a new game These issuse brign up the point on why The Game Awards isn't what it use to be.
As a Metaphor Enjoyer, I would love to see it win. Sadly I dont think lots of people will agree because FF7 just has that edge in popularity. But I agree with all you said, the Vocal Tracks in here are phenomenal
If you're going to deny Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree in GoTY. then you have to also deny FFVII rebirth. There needs to be better categories, like 'best DLC' and 'best remaster/remake'.
i hate what they did with the ffvii remake and rebirth but i have to say it's neither a remaster or a remake. it's more like something between a sequel and a reboot
I dunno, it's kind of a gray area. My problem with SOTE as a nominee is just that it's not a standalone product. Like, you literally can't buy it and play it on its own; you need Elden Ring. In that way remakes are different. I do think a remake/remaster category would almost be fitting, but I don't know if every year they could get a full list of remakes/remasters.
@@melephs_capthat’s the problem. Those categories wouldn’t even matter or be significant. SOTE is so good that it deserves to be recognized as the best or one of the best pieces of gaming content released this year. GOTY is the ONLY way to do this properly. I personally don’t think it matters the way a piece of content releases or if it is standalone or not. I’m judging what the best piece of gaming content released this year is. The content is the only thing that matters
It seems like everyone is agreeing that the game awards this year seems like it will be terrible. Probably cuz the gaming industry doesn’t want another game like Baldurs Gate 3
Ngl , I dont really care about the awards , they dont matter anyway we all know its all a farse behind the scenes , I just watch the Geoff events for the new game announcements
In my opinion the generosity of games plays absolutely no role in the quality of the game. I won't suddenly like a game because they give me free items or dislike a game because they don't. It feels very odd to me when people hyperfocus on these things as if it's a make or break thing for these games.
I don't really understand why remakes shouldn't be nominated or win. So take Silent Hill 2 - yes, it originally came out 20 years ago, but how many people are experiencing it for the first time now? And it's not like you can easily play the original. It might be the same story, but it's not told the same way - the performances are different, the visual are different, the music is different.
The Game Awards are just like any other award show: A show. It's decided from the start. If they truly wanted to celebrate gaming, they'd let the votes of the people who actually played those games count for more than 10%. It is what it is. I need Balatro to sweep this year...
The Game Awards are not there to celebrate games, they are there to sell ad space and gain revenue by revealing new games via trailers. It's just for cloud, prestige and nothing more, awarding developers is just an excuse for their cloud chasing.
what yis ou opinion on Witcher's DLC winning game of the year when it came out, Marco? did you had the same opinion back then as you do now? cause lots of people malding about SoTE getting this nomination, who celebrated DLC for Cyberpunk taking the best ongoing category. when literally it was stated than there will be no more Cyberpunk DLCs.
Another one that was missing from the best ongoing apart from Warframe is Path of Exile, they literally broke their record player numbers this year because of how good the Settlers of Kalguur league was, while D2 fumbled their biggest update, D4 doesn´t even come close to PoE in therms of quality, and Helldivers 2 literally came out this year, how is it on best ongoing. Don't know anything about FF14, and Fortnite is there just because its the biggest live service game right now.
The game awards is a vehicle for companies to pay money for ad spots to make new game announcements via trailers, that’s about it. With that knowledge, then who they are nominating (what is popular with a few token indies) makes complete sense.
Shadow of the Erdtree not being nominated for best Score & Music is highway robbery No nomination for Another Crab’s Treasure… No nomination for Nine Souls… I WAS happy the Prince of Persia The Lost Crown was recognized in a major category…
The game awards aren't a mess, they are completely meaningless. They have been for the last several years with the only reason to watch them being the trailers for upcoming games.
37:14 same people and with a new kingdom hearts coming out universes might converge probably not but maybe (technically they already have but you know what im talking about)
@Zerovin That's not inherently correct. You see the game awards posted that remasters, remakes and dlcs specifically qualify for nominations. So I'm sure the remixed music (that's amazing btw dont listen to jack) would've been allowed.
@@JudaBoi sure, but dlc's and remasters should have their own category, not taking spots of games that really deserve the publicity, because no shit the dlc to elden ring is going to be good, no shit sonic x shadow is going to be good both are expansions to their base game (a remaster and an expansion in sonic's case)
@@JudaBoi No one is arguing whether it's allowed or not. But you're kneecapping the soundtrack compared to pretty much any other soundtrack on the market. Originality is an important thing. I've heard the OST of many/all sonic games and Gens has got to be the worst
FF7 Rebirth is not fan fiction... It's literally the original creators making the new story. It deserves the win because of the new tracks and amazing new arrangements of classics alone. The tracks they managed to mix and release in the OST isn't even all of the music, I imagine your issue with 'cohesion' on the OST is because of necessity; that they cannot fit all the songs on the discs that allows them an interesting flow of the track-list, instead they put the tracks they could fit (or work on with time constraints for release) in the order that they appear in the game. If you play the game, there is so much more pacing to the music like the specific mixing to match gameplay moments, in this case context is king. I'm not even going to start on all the amazing songs that haven't had an official release yet.
Way I see it, particularly this year in fact, is that a lot of the nominees are either picked for popularity's sake or simply because they're deemed to be 'brand-safe'. Honestly when it comes down to music, I think it'd be pretty cool to do some kind of community based awards ceremony, possibly collaborating with other creators in similar fields! Not for any kind of superficial marketing reason, simply as a way to appreciate this year in music
I really hope that Stellar Blade wins for score. Honestly I think that it should have been up for direction or art direction, too, the environments there made me fall in love with whole new types of architecture, locales, vistas and detailing. I'll never be happy until IRL cities look like Eidos 7
It’s absolutely insane it didn’t get nominated for best score and music dude. I can’t believe it, literally the best game ost I’ve ever heard in my life. It’s a crime it wasn’t nominated. It could easily be swapped out in place for any of the current nominees EASILY.
This show is just picking the top 5 games and putting them into every category and then creating 1 category to show Nintendo game representation 😒 There should be a rule where a game can't win more than 1 award (but can be nominated for multiple) so that it is more entertaining to watch for people that may not always play the games everyone is talking about
in no alternative universe is any of the music in the music category competing with Persona 3 reload or SMT5:V, but fuck all i guess. and stellar blade is just a cheap bootleg of nier music
Honestly RPG is such a bloated category. Even back with Diablo 1 you had so many. Goldbox, CRPG, ARPG, JRPG, MMORPG, all are roleplaying games. Even if you just take ARPG, even in the 90s-20s, System Shock, Morrowind, Deus Ex, and Diablo can all be called ARPGs and they are all wildly different in gameplay. Hell System Shock was a fps game but played the most like a traditional RPG. Then you can get pedantic and say Call of Duty is an RPG because you are literally role playing a character. Kind of why they need better categories imo.
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Oops lemme clarify something at 8:50 ish - I misspoke I was saying there’s no way anyone can deny that sounds good or can say it’s composed poorly - huge misspeak there.
Pretty funny, though.
Loved that Marco disguised a Caseoh montage as a Game Awards video
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I don't really ever take the Game Awards seriously. It's nice if you kind of treat it for what it is, which is a non-serious awards show meant for entertainment.
Facts. I will never EVER forget how they robbed Xenoblade 3 of the best OST award. Goes to show they don't take it seriously
i think the BG3 sweep last year was too much good grace in one sitting so they had to bullshit around this year 🤣
i mean yeah but at the same time it's just kind of like... why. why did this become so dissappointing LMAO 😭 i just wish the less popular games got in there a few times
@@karbyboi8489 I love Xb3's soundtrack, but GoW Ragnarok I think was a fine choice. It has way less overall music, but each piece was more impactful as a result. Like the track that plays when Kratos blows the Gjallarhorn was *electrifying.* Unforgettable moment for me, really.
The fact that XB3 got nominated I think is fair enough.
And let's remember, Nier Automata won in 2017, and FFVII Remake won in 2020, and it was up against TLoU2 which was the industry darling that year. So I think they definitely take it seriously, it was just a really tight race. Same with Elden Ring and Ragnarok being neck and neck for GotY itself.
You gotta pull yourself out of your head a bit and realize that it's not a popularity contest, because if it was, CoD games would be sweeping awards left and right. Tons of people play CoD, but they don't rate it very highly. On the other hand, not that many people played FFVII Rebirth, but the people that did overwhelmingly rated it VERY positively. The math just doesn't add up if you really think it's about popularity.
I disagree whole heartedly that Rebirth's OST isn't entirely cohesive. Maybe its because you didn't experience it through gameplay, but everything works so well for the moments those songs appear. There are some occasional surprise pop songs for side quests or an occasional goofy song for a goofy moment, but they all still fit the theme due to the world they represent. Midgar has some beautiful scores when in serious story moments, or exploring the natural world. But the world is also overtaken by technology and industry. So the pop songs and the occasional electronic music work really well as sort of an intentional juxtaposition.
I heard a bunch in my 20 hours with it. But no one can deny it’s a work of passion and art
That silent hill narrative question is WHY I don't want remakes/remasters in most categories. Music is good sure, but they should have their own category. Maybe even a DLC cat if there are enough in any year. I don't want seasons to be a contender at ALL that is absurd. Best ongoing game is ALWAYS a let down for "why is this here? corpo pampering?"
I can’t blame you
What would you say about FF7 Remake/Rebirth? Sure that these are based on the old story, but do you think they change enough to be warranted as a new story? Personally I think it does, but I'd love to know your opinion as someone that does agree with you on basically 1:1 remakes
idk i mostly disagree here. i will agree that simple remasters shouldnt qualify because theyre typically the same exact game, just improved for modern systems. but remakes can be almost entirely different games and i feel like that should qualify as a contender
@@Quetzalma I honestly have avoided looking much at it until I play it myself. I haven't played FF7 original yet either, still finishing 6 now. I can't give a real answer to that yet.
I'd rather support "The REAL Game Awards" by Side Scrollers... the votes will be by US, not "a chosen panel/judges"...as it should be.
TGA has stunk of corporate meddling and lack of soul (and gamer influence) since day one. The living embodiment of: "How do you do, fellow gamers? I too play the vido gams!"
You really nailed my gripes with the nominations… it just doesn’t feel like TGA really honours how amazing this year has been
just look at the sponsers of the event and the panal choosing the nominees i think it speaks for itself
Where can you see the sponsors of the event?
@@Talundor you'll find them by looking for this years voting jury. Funnily enough it was revealed that community votes only actually account for 10% of combined votes
@@Aona_Musicidk why is everyone so shocked by the 10% thing, that’s been known for years about the game awards. It’s not new, nor was it a secret lol.
@@Eoryu because never before was the jury so biased. More than half of it are game news articles which trashed some of the contestants for months and praised others unjustly. Of course people would love vox populi to be more pronounced after knowing that.
@@13-bit-kitten well that’s fair, but some people are acting like the 10% thing is some nefarious hidden plot about the game awards, when it’s always been decided this way. Many people have criticized the game awards too every year for their picks and some of the winners, it just feels even more skewed this year because despite quite a number of hits, there were also a staggering number of misses that led to a year that feels like one of the worst in gaming history.
I keep being surprised that Manor Lords was nominated in multiple categories. It still feels like a small project no one knows about despite the fact that it has millions of players. It's a City Builder with RTS elements, a commendable dedication to being in line with what we know about history and a truly gorgeous OST that I highly recommend anyone give a listen.
I'd heard of Metaphor ReFantasio before, but never saw or heard anything from the actual game. Warriors in Arms is one of the coolest pieces of video game music I've heard recently. I like it so much that the game is now at the top of my list of games to play.
I'm just sad that we can't have the Awards version of the Helldivers 2 OST. Would have been a great music to kick off for the orchestra to play.
The Game Awards get a lot less interesting when you realize that the results are 90% decided by a judging panel and 10% by the user poll, so the poll exclusively exists to drum up user interaction so they feel invested and involved.
User voting would be stupid as well. most voters havent touched or heard of most of the games.
gonna copy and paste most of my comment from another thread:
Black Myth Wukong, a game that a lot of outlets trashed unjustly, still got a nomination, and Dragon Age Veilgaurd, which a lot of those same outlets were championing, got almost no nominations.
That's the power of aggregate scores. There are traditional web media outlets, youtubers, and everything in between, as well as international outlets too. I really don't get how anyone could have a problem with this idea.
If most of the vote was by the populace, what you would get is an actual popularity contest, because you would get streamers mobilizing their base to spam vote for their favorite game.
In an ideal world, every single person who is voting on the awards would have played ever single game this year and also enjoy every single genre equally. That way, the calculus for best game becomes: within the standards of [X] genre, how good was this game? Then, in aggregate, in terms of pure enjoyment, which one of THOSE games was the MOST enjoyable? THAT is the goal of the awards show.
Now, this is clearly an impossible goal from the get-go. THUS, the job that Geoff has is to find a way to get the outcome to reflect that ideal state as closely as possible. I think the most obvious way you do something like that is by weighting the scores towards the group of people that's actually playing ALL of the games. As an example, every review outlet had one of their staffers play FFVII Rebirth AND Black Myth Wukong, but despite Wukong having 20 times the number of players, it has a significantly lower score on metacritic. Now you can say "biased games journalists don't count!" except for the fact that the user score on Metacritic is almost exactly the same as the critic score (83 to 81). Compare that to Rebirth whose user score is 90 and critic score is 92.
So, once again, if player's choice was where most of the votes came from, Wukong would win by sheer virtue of the fact that it's mega popular in China.
Think of it like the electoral college in the US. If we went by popular vote, it would be California and New York vs Texas and Florida, winner takes all. The states with a smaller population have disproportionately more of a voice precisely so that they don't get drowned out by the fact that more people live in the cities. In the same way, a game like FFVII Rebirth which far fewer people have played needs some way for its actual quality to be fairly assessed with the same standards that are being applied to a game like Wukong. Thus, the only fair way to do that is to give more weight to the votes of people that have played BOTH Wukong AND FFVII Rebirth. Well who tend to be the people that have actually played all of the games? It's the critics.
I know some people may not like this reality, but if you just sit and think about it, this is actually the best way to do it, even if it doesn't feel like it. You just have to spend some time thinking about the alternatives and you will quickly see that they are all far worse.
The Game Awards is always a mess.
The fact that a game can be released a day after TGA nominees have been decided but before the eligibility period for the next year's TGA nominations begins is simply ridiculous. They did that last year, but I don't know if they've done it this year too.
i've accepted that TGA is not the real game awards. the voting committee is biased and out of touch as hell, and that is clear when you see the nominations for best ongoing game, past and present, Newsweek being a member, and IGN being a member when you see how they judge games like Wukong. they rush people out of their moment on stage like they can't even care about respecting and honouring the award winners, which is what the TGA pretend they made the event for. they hold the event in the year, excluding any games that may be released in December, again going against their claim that they want to honour all the greatest games of the year, more like they want to capitalize on the winter sales season rather than that. the answer to fix the extra time used on winner speeches is to cut down the stupid categories no one cares about like esports or best online influencer. this is about honouring the best of the best artists behind the games, not about stupid influencers and esports or capitalizing on the winter sales. TGA is a fraud for what they claim they do any of this for, and i skip the event and watch the summary videos people upload the next day.
Not just a mess, it’s a giant stinky pile. 🤣
of sht?
The same seven or eight games getting nominations across the board is so frustrating. There should be more variety.
Yes, some games are worthy of getting multiple award categories, but still. When your "Best Game Direction" and "Game Of The Year" nominee lists are *the exact same,* something is wrong.
Last year had this problem, but not to this extent. Last year's biggest problem was the rushed acceptance speeches.
This year is looking to be the culmination of these gradually amassing issues, and it annoys me greatly.
EDIT: That's not even getting into the discussion of how games that release in November or December are almost certainly s.o.l. for nominations. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 released just this week, and it should have been in the nominations for at least Action-Adventure.
No, because Nine Sols not being nominated actually pissed me off. Legit one of the best Indies this year.
on the topic of stellar blade vs VIIRebirth, maybe its because of VII being prexisting with its soundscape and VIIR so far has consistently played with those tunes, alongside the minigames too which each have their own musical elements, while SB its varied, but consistent to the scenario its made for?
Your point about the low quality VSTs is SO TRUE.
For me it's entirely been from Genshin. I am just so used to hearing pristine woodwinds, brass, and strings every day that anything less starts to grate on my ears. I'm rooting for FFVII Rebirth for this year's Soundtrack of the Year (only because I haven't played Stellar Blade yet, but I hear incredible things about the music), but there are quite a few pieces in it that are using really low quality synths and it does drag down my feelings about it a bit. That said, there are plenty of pure electronic pieces and actually high quality synths/real orchestras being used that, overall, I would still personally rate it very highly.
Metaphor was disappointing to me for similar reasons. I think I didn't care as much in Persona 5 because the jazz fusion style lent itself well to a lot of purely synthetic instruments or electric guitars (which are easier to simulate), but in Metaphor, I agree, when there are no vocals, I am really not into any of the very fake orchestral textures. The vocals do literally ALL of the heavy lifting for the whole soundtrack, imo.
EDIT: I do heavily agree though that the creativity on display from Shoji Meguro is really ingenious. Give him Masashi Hamauzu's studio setup and everything would be perfect.
I highly agree with you on them just choosing very popular and flashy names games.
One that comes to mind is Suzerain: Rizia OST. (I heavily recommend listening to the Pinnacle from SuzerainOST)
It may just be me but, as a PGR player, I felt that music category in Mobile games, or anything outside of PC and mainstream cosole game, as I feel sad not to see inclusion such as PGR and ZZZ.
I know it would never make a GOTY list but I really wish the UFO 50 soundtrack could get some recognition. 361 tracks by one guy for fifty different games in completely different genres. There's everything from retro bangers to bizarre out-of-time detuned ambient pieces. It's mind-blowing how good all of it is. (Just listen to the Mooncat tracks. Wow.) And I think he did all the sound effects too!
usada pekora being nominated is kinda wild for an american/global content creator/streamer awards since she is japanese and doesnt speak much english outside of her attempts at communicating with non-japanese people from hololive (the virtual-youtuber organization she is part of), most notably moona hoshinova from indonesia. pekora does have a huge dedicated following and lots of people making translated clips for different languages beside japanese
also, the clip you watched of pekora was her playing a fanmade game called holocure which is a vampire survivors style game where your choice of start character matters a whole lot and it has almost all talents from hololive, includes 2 of 4 generations of eng/glo talents, all 3 generations of indonesian talents and recently updated to include up to 4th generation japanese talents and has lots of references to stuff that has happened on their streams or the talents personalities.
last year, another vtuber (virtual youtuber) called ironmouse won the same category but at least ironmouse is puerto rican so she speaks english normally
I literally cannot believe No Rest for the Wicked did not get nominated for Art Direction, and have been told "oh it's in Early Access so isn't eligible" or "It's playerbase isn't big enough" when Manor Lords is nominated in 2 categories despite being in EA, and a game like Neva with a highest playercount of 1200 gets nominated. This year is such an unmitigated shitshow.
Wayfinder should have been nominated for art as well.
It's crazy that an Early Access game was nominated; I don't think it makes sense to nominate any game until it hits 1.0. (Especially No Rest for the Wicked imo that game is really rough.) And as Marco says popularity should not drive the picks.
16:41 Its a big big big difference how and where a music is orchestrated or recorded. Is it on a computer, large theater, large symphony, small symphony? The best way I personally can tell the difference to others (as it personally is one of my biggest gripes) compare the opening Star Wars: The Force Awakens fanfare that is used on the official soundtrack version to the one used in concerts, symphonies, and previous films. Its very very obvious that (for that specific song) it was either dulled down or completely made digital.
Star Wars' opening fanfare is bombastic as the movies themselves, when George made them, had opera in mind. The music directly tags along on the journey as you do, and almost could tell you the entire story if you mute the dialog. Very dynamic moments were the music is feeling exactly what the characters are feeling and continues to do so for their entire stage moments.
This is why it was such a big gripe for me that so much of the three new movies soundtrack were obviously more digital than other songs in the same film. There is a level of depth and pressure that you don't get with digital as it can't harmonize and blend echos the same way a symphony can. This is also why its a big deal for certain symphonies to play in certain venues. How sound naturally reverbs plays a big part is carrying the feeling of the music.
Final note, this sounds super prestigious but this also messed with me greatly when I used to play piano. When using certain keyboard setups (no matter how expensive) when you stop holding the pedal the notes would immediately stop blending and being held. Like a full stop. Meanwhile on even the dinkiest stringed piano you can mess around and blend keys by fluttering the pedal. Totally different sound outputs between digital based soundtracks.
If they weren't a mess before it is a mess now
man, why isn't Marco as judge for the game awards lol. At least for the musical score section. Though, I guess it's not needed. The Meatball doing incredible work here already. I just hope the judges are being as thoughtful as Marco is with his analyses.
This vid is pretty cool though, touching on each of the ost's from the nominees. I've personally also been listening through some of the ost's to check and see if my choice for the award is justified, so it's nice having Marco go over it a bit as well.
I kinda wish there was a little more variety in the nominations to be completely frank. Until Then, In Stars and Time are both wonderful indie games that at least deserve to be nominated for a few categories here.
i honestly fully believe that metaphor deserves at the very least the art direction award, i was blown away by all of it, the menus, the transitions between screens, the ui, the designs... there's just too much to go into for a single comment but. i just think it's so special and unique that it deserves that win. i already know nothing will get a win on actual merits when the player votes are barely a drop though, it's incredibly disappointing and if it wasn't for new games announcements i wouldn't even look at the game awards
100%
The thing that gets me about the game awards is that they only have the orchestra play selections from the GOTY nominated games and they notably leave out any games that happened to be nominated for SCORE and not for GOTY. Like come on... you already have the orchestra in the building and you have a category centered around MUSIC... let us hear it! Last year it meant we didn't get to hear anything from FFXVI, this year it means we won't get to hear from Silent Hill or Stellar Blade...
KCD2 not being on the most anticipated list is criminal, I swear
Marco the sad reality is that the game awards have only ever really been about Jeff Keighley's ego he always wanted the awards to be a hollywoodesque gala affair and loathed the gaming community that came with the games getting awards
DLC should be a separate category….
It was (in 2023)
Black Myth Wukong was so underwhelming.....It does one thing best in class ( visuals - environ/characters), the rest are so....average ( combat, level design, sound design, narrative). They had such potential to tell an epic tale...with the source material they had, but spent it all on visual fidelity.
@@jaydunna2645 THANK YOU!! finally someone with some balls, 100% agree combat, level design, and narrative have been done better by similar games regarding mythology or history( with a spin) such as nioh2( I'll never shut up about how it's just superior).
iver actually stated this. on its surface it's very average. as a vehicle for storytelling and visuals and design and high highs it's a triumph. the combat is nothing crazy. it doesn't revoilutionize the genre but it does do the things it does well as mentioned insanely well.
Thank you for being a real one Marco the Keighley awards suck.
39:13 the community fought tooth and nail to get it fixed so I think it should win
The Game Awards is, basically: "Pay us and we will put you in a catgeory", which is why most categories are just the same games. All Geoff cares about is money.
So the Game Awards i pretty much the Goodreads Awards of games. It's a popularity contest.
Do a reaction to arcane its gonna be one of the best things you gave time to, the music too is insane (arcane haters are just league of legends haters lol)
I don't know why I can say "I don't like classical music" and like all the "classical-like" music I hear in video games (especially I find the classical reimagining so cool like the Beethoven rock battle theme in Genshin).
Maybe it's something different about the melody or how it's portrayed in regular "classical" music? I think that the music is made for an audience that sits there for hours, and listens intently, so there is a lot of gradual amplification and nuances, while I think video game music are often more direct, and as a result, more melodic, less lengthy.
The Astro Bot music reminds me of Jazz Jackrabbit music
Imagine having best ongoing and best community, and Warframe isn't even nominated in any of them xD
Unfortunately the majority of award shows in general skew heavily towards popularity more-so than any other criteria.
People watch these kinds of things to see the things they like get rewarded, if unknown or niche things were to win, less people would watch, which is a little sad since the awards themselves are often taken as a stamp of quality instead of what they really are, a stamp of popularity.
What's funny is that Geoff knew people were going to go after him since he is the face of the event and had to preface by saying he is not part of the committee.
My favorite FF game is FFVII, but, i don't think a re-make has to be on a game awards other than as a classic reference, the game awards feela more like the Oscars now days, a popularity contest, and no a good though and really critical point of view, and as you said remakes should be on a category and no alongs side new ips, because we all know nostalgia always wins... Unfortunately, lol and the dlc category... Ok ok but if they gonna do that then where is phantom liberty? Nah, a joke, a bad bad joke. The best award is us enjoying the games
Marco: Game Awards are a Mess
Also Marco: Agrees with almost all nominees
I agree and still think it’s a shit show
At this point game awards overall is just a popularity contest.
Doesn't really matter if the game deserves the award or even the nomination, as long as it's big, flashy and popular, it's gonna get thrown into the triple A circlejerk with maybe 1 token indie game just existing there.
I have never had a problem with the nominee list, or even the winners.
I just want Astro Bot to win it all. It's just flawless in everything.
The complete lack of SMTV: Vengeance in any category, ESPECIALLY music, is depressing. Kozuka wrote one of the greatest and most technically incredible OSTs ever and he just gets shafted, by the nominees and this comment section since no one's talking about it lmao
Different comment for a different thing,
5:50
THANK YOU.
I wanted FF7, remade for people who never got to experience it, not FF7 with an entirely different plot.
honestly i dont even go there for the awards because i know it's all shit i could care less about. i'm there for any new game announcements that i might find interesting
It would be so funny if SOTE won
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I will fight from this hill as I have since it started,
The GotY nominee celebration orchestra has been borderline offensive since 2020.
Before that point, the Orchestra played a song from each game as faithfully as possible, but starting from 2020, they introduced a "Game Awards Leitmotif" underbeat that obliterates the actual intended soundscape of the songs.
Maybe "obliterates," is a little hyperbolic, but it serves to demonstrate how disruptive to the experience this small addition they implemented has been for me.
I hope they get rid of it this year, but I don't have high hopes.
Nine sols deserved better
Silent Hill 2 SHOULD NOT win best narrative. The devs didn’t write the story, let alone in this year.
The best parts in FF7 rebirth and the characters in the game aren’t new either
it turned into oscars
16:41 I don't think that's elitist at all.There is a reason why video game orchestras are becoming so popular, gamers want to hear the music they firat experienced in their favorite games realized to their fullest potential which is typically a orchestrated live performance. Most games just don't have the resources to orchestrate their soundtracks.
You conviced me why this Game Awards is the worst yet, it feels so corprate without a real intention on what a game is or its catagory
Multiversus alreadly got nomintaed the year is was reavled so it gets another one just because it fully came out?
Capcoms collection isn't a new game
Shaodow of the Erdtree is fantastic but isn't a new game
These issuse brign up the point on why The Game Awards isn't what it use to be.
As a Metaphor Enjoyer, I would love to see it win. Sadly I dont think lots of people will agree because FF7 just has that edge in popularity. But I agree with all you said, the Vocal Tracks in here are phenomenal
No point in taking Geoffs Game Awards seriously. As long as Journalists have a 90% say in voting, what is even the point of it for Gamers.
If you're going to deny Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree in GoTY. then you have to also deny FFVII rebirth. There needs to be better categories, like 'best DLC' and 'best remaster/remake'.
i hate what they did with the ffvii remake and rebirth but i have to say it's neither a remaster or a remake. it's more like something between a sequel and a reboot
I dunno, it's kind of a gray area. My problem with SOTE as a nominee is just that it's not a standalone product. Like, you literally can't buy it and play it on its own; you need Elden Ring. In that way remakes are different. I do think a remake/remaster category would almost be fitting, but I don't know if every year they could get a full list of remakes/remasters.
@@melephs_capthat’s the problem. Those categories wouldn’t even matter or be significant. SOTE is so good that it deserves to be recognized as the best or one of the best pieces of gaming content released this year. GOTY is the ONLY way to do this properly. I personally don’t think it matters the way a piece of content releases or if it is standalone or not. I’m judging what the best piece of gaming content released this year is. The content is the only thing that matters
Sounds like someone didn't actually play Rebirth.
It seems like everyone is agreeing that the game awards this year seems like it will be terrible. Probably cuz the gaming industry doesn’t want another game like Baldurs Gate 3
A fair few incredible games this year, just be snubbed by DLC oscar bait
Nothing from wukong too, like theres songs in there that evoke emotion, that tell of heartbreak and loss, yet nope, nothing
Ngl , I dont really care about the awards , they dont matter anyway we all know its all a farse behind the scenes , I just watch the Geoff events for the new game announcements
In my opinion the generosity of games plays absolutely no role in the quality of the game. I won't suddenly like a game because they give me free items or dislike a game because they don't. It feels very odd to me when people hyperfocus on these things as if it's a make or break thing for these games.
42:45 no way doom dark ages didn’t make it into most anticipated
I don't really understand why remakes shouldn't be nominated or win. So take Silent Hill 2 - yes, it originally came out 20 years ago, but how many people are experiencing it for the first time now? And it's not like you can easily play the original. It might be the same story, but it's not told the same way - the performances are different, the visual are different, the music is different.
The Game Awards are just like any other award show: A show. It's decided from the start. If they truly wanted to celebrate gaming, they'd let the votes of the people who actually played those games count for more than 10%.
It is what it is.
I need Balatro to sweep this year...
The Game Awards are not there to celebrate games, they are there to sell ad space and gain revenue by revealing new games via trailers. It's just for cloud, prestige and nothing more, awarding developers is just an excuse for their cloud chasing.
what yis ou opinion on Witcher's DLC winning game of the year when it came out, Marco?
did you had the same opinion back then as you do now?
cause lots of people malding about SoTE getting this nomination, who celebrated DLC for Cyberpunk taking the best ongoing category. when literally it was stated than there will be no more Cyberpunk DLCs.
I doubt metaphor will win any awards but I hope I'm wrong.
MARCO HAS NOT SEEN ARCANE?!?!??!
Another one that was missing from the best ongoing apart from Warframe is Path of Exile, they literally broke their record player numbers this year because of how good the Settlers of Kalguur league was, while D2 fumbled their biggest update, D4 doesn´t even come close to PoE in therms of quality, and Helldivers 2 literally came out this year, how is it on best ongoing. Don't know anything about FF14, and Fortnite is there just because its the biggest live service game right now.
I’m so excited for poe2 I want to invest in poe but with poe2 so close I’m holding off still
The game awards is a vehicle for companies to pay money for ad spots to make new game announcements via trailers, that’s about it. With that knowledge, then who they are nominating (what is popular with a few token indies) makes complete sense.
Shadow of the Erdtree not being nominated for best Score & Music is highway robbery
No nomination for Another Crab’s Treasure…
No nomination for Nine Souls…
I WAS happy the Prince of Persia The Lost Crown was recognized in a major category…
Just as rigged as the Tyson v. Paul fight 🤣
The game awards aren't a mess, they are completely meaningless. They have been for the last several years with the only reason to watch them being the trailers for upcoming games.
37:14 same people and with a new kingdom hearts coming out universes might converge probably not but maybe (technically they already have but you know what im talking about)
Shadow Generations not getting nominated for best OST is CRIMINAL
Remixes of previous songs isn't that great. I never rated Sonic Generations' OST
its a game with remixes of older tracks and thats only a third of the games OST since its bundled with base generations
@Zerovin That's not inherently correct. You see the game awards posted that remasters, remakes and dlcs specifically qualify for nominations. So I'm sure the remixed music (that's amazing btw dont listen to jack) would've been allowed.
@@JudaBoi sure, but dlc's and remasters should have their own category, not taking spots of games that really deserve the publicity, because no shit the dlc to elden ring is going to be good, no shit sonic x shadow is going to be good both are expansions to their base game (a remaster and an expansion in sonic's case)
@@JudaBoi No one is arguing whether it's allowed or not. But you're kneecapping the soundtrack compared to pretty much any other soundtrack on the market. Originality is an important thing. I've heard the OST of many/all sonic games and Gens has got to be the worst
How have you not watched Arcane yet??
Balatro is a fantastic game, but it was well known as a pc game before it came to mobile so I feel like it’s kinda misplaced as a “mobile” game.
FF7 Rebirth is not fan fiction... It's literally the original creators making the new story. It deserves the win because of the new tracks and amazing new arrangements of classics alone. The tracks they managed to mix and release in the OST isn't even all of the music, I imagine your issue with 'cohesion' on the OST is because of necessity; that they cannot fit all the songs on the discs that allows them an interesting flow of the track-list, instead they put the tracks they could fit (or work on with time constraints for release) in the order that they appear in the game. If you play the game, there is so much more pacing to the music like the specific mixing to match gameplay moments, in this case context is king. I'm not even going to start on all the amazing songs that haven't had an official release yet.
Im glad you like it. :)
6:00 Hove you seen kingdom hearts?
Way I see it, particularly this year in fact, is that a lot of the nominees are either picked for popularity's sake or simply because they're deemed to be 'brand-safe'. Honestly when it comes down to music, I think it'd be pretty cool to do some kind of community based awards ceremony, possibly collaborating with other creators in similar fields! Not for any kind of superficial marketing reason, simply as a way to appreciate this year in music
Go for monkey!!~
No Thank Goodness You Are Here?
I really hope that Stellar Blade wins for score. Honestly I think that it should have been up for direction or art direction, too, the environments there made me fall in love with whole new types of architecture, locales, vistas and detailing. I'll never be happy until IRL cities look like Eidos 7
I actually was more surprised that ER SoTE didn't get a Music nomination. That was one I was really expecting.
It’s absolutely insane it didn’t get nominated for best score and music dude. I can’t believe it, literally the best game ost I’ve ever heard in my life. It’s a crime it wasn’t nominated. It could easily be swapped out in place for any of the current nominees EASILY.
People are overreacting as usual, either for clout or attention. Nothing new here.
im mostly just speaking. not much reacting here.
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O wait shit I didn’t mean that! Fuck!
@@MarcoMeatball I could tell you didn't mean to say that, it was a nice laugh
@@TicTacToeCraft😂😂😂😂
This show is just picking the top 5 games and putting them into every category and then creating 1 category to show Nintendo game representation 😒 There should be a rule where a game can't win more than 1 award (but can be nominated for multiple) so that it is more entertaining to watch for people that may not always play the games everyone is talking about
3:26 Ohh my god i think i just came once i recognised the melody
Imma be honest here... remakes and DLC shouldn´t be nominated for game of the year
in no alternative universe is any of the music in the music category competing with Persona 3 reload or SMT5:V, but fuck all i guess.
and stellar blade is just a cheap bootleg of nier music
ELDEN RING! ELDEN RING! ELDEN RING! ELDEN RING! 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👽🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥 (Please win FFVII Rebirth)
i just find incomprehensible how wukong isn't at least nominated in best ost
Honestly RPG is such a bloated category. Even back with Diablo 1 you had so many. Goldbox, CRPG, ARPG, JRPG, MMORPG, all are roleplaying games. Even if you just take ARPG, even in the 90s-20s, System Shock, Morrowind, Deus Ex, and Diablo can all be called ARPGs and they are all wildly different in gameplay. Hell System Shock was a fps game but played the most like a traditional RPG.
Then you can get pedantic and say Call of Duty is an RPG because you are literally role playing a character. Kind of why they need better categories imo.
I completely disagree about fallout. I think it was really bad.
then youd like persona 5 as well since you like metaphor
well shit
caseoh at the end was fantastic