Hey thanks for the review! I've linked to it from the project pages, I hope you don't mind. RFID support is coming soon (with the next update), if testing goes well that is but I'm fairly confident.
@@humebeam hey!! Thanks for making such an awesome upgrade. That’s super exciting for those that print with a fair bit of Bambu lab filament. I don’t mind the linking at all 🙌.
Hiya! @humebeam I have an X1 Carbon (that's not working right now, but I won't ask for help on that here) and I'd love to have a Python AMS built for me. Do you offer that service? This is such a cool project. I'll be keeping an eye on it for future updates/functionality.
My one gripe on this design is that all spools are top loaded. The Python with elcousure is 69mm (nice) taller than a stock closed ams and 79mm shorter than an opened ams unit. This makes stacked designs much taller. I wish there was a way to make them front loaded so that the encousers can be mounted ontop one enouther and allow for a shorter overall stack.
The MicroCenter in Denver is running one of these on their demo P1S, seems really worth for cardboard spools especially because the rollers on mine have been getting gunked up with cardboard dust and stop gripping them reliably
I have a chamber heater in my bambu x1c and a bento box and the max chamber temp is 55C-60C and my PETG Bento Box I bought from VoxelPLA, deformed after a couple ASA prints. I bought it with printed parts, so all the parts are printed from PETG from VoxelPLA. Saying all that, if you do want a heated python AMS, I would recommend printing either in ABS, ASA or a better, more heat resistant filament.
The temperature is not the single variable here. A bento box is expllicitly made to be in DIRECT contact with high airflow. This is not a similar scenario to the environment that the python parts are seeing in operation. The rate of airflow matters for material softening.
@@Kenagon if you included any links in your responses, you will need to break them in order to post the comment. the YT automod will instantaneously delete any comments that have links in them, even to other videos on YT; or at least that has been my experience.
So I did wind up getting this from Voxel PLA with full hardware kit and everything. Couple of things to note (Currently assembling the enclosure and will edit with more findings): 1. They didn't go through and remove all the excess filament from the heat sunk inserts. I still had to do that myself, especially on the top trim pieces. 2. While they do send a lot of hardware and bag it all separately depending on what you're building it falls short on what's needed. The instructions clearly call for 28 M3x10mm and they send M3x8mm for whatever reason and 0 M3x12mm. I wound up having to source M3x12 for the top because there's no way that the M3x8 will fit through the top rim, acrylic, and the resting lip for the lid and screw in. As far as the actual print quality and assembly it's gone really smooth minus the hiccups mentioned above.
I wanted to quickly chime in. Just last week, we updated the design to the new version 1.0.3 version, which is completely insert-less, making it much easier and faster to assemble. As for the screws you mentioned, the original version required the M3x8mm screws, and the new 1.0.3 version will come with the M3x10mm and M3x12mm screws by default.
For some reason these UA-camrs feel like they have to sound just like a cable tv tech channel. I much rather prefer the down to earth realist approach. No need for pretentious lines like this is some reality tv tech game show.
I don’t see the problem tho. He said what he was gonna do. Got the intro and ad out the way and then gave what you came here for. Just skip past it lmao😅😂
I bought my first 3d printer in 2016. A delta printer from a company called "Micromake". From there I went to a Tevo, and then Ender, and now finally Bambu. How far the industry has come in just 8 years is astonishing.
I’ve had a similar experience. I bought the Monoprice Mini Delta when it was an Indiegogo project and used that for several years. I then upgraded to an Ender 3 v2 about 3 years ago. I’m anxiously waiting for the holiday to unwrap my Bambu Lab P1S with AMS. 3D printing technology has come a very long way in the last decade. I’m most excited about being able to print 4x faster than on my Ender, but multi-material printing is exciting too.
@@neversinkmakes You will love the P1S. It's such a fantastic printer, especially with the AMS. I didn't know Bambu Lab had RFID in their spools such that the printer identifies the material, and applies all the correct printing settings. It's very convenient.
I’m so happy you’re making this video. I saw the Python upgrade on printables but I didn’t see anything on UA-cam yet so I didn’t want to jump into it. Very interesting video.
It seems that no one has solved the big issue. Making it easy to open the bottom to clear filament from the feeder. It seems harder to clear the filament because you still need to unscrew it and take it out to be able to get to the bottom of the AMS. Do you think you can ask them to design it with an easy access opening door on the bottom to make it easy to clear the bottom feeder? Thanks
Pretty cool, I think probably safe to get just the parts you need from bambu so you don’t have to gut the other one and then put it on your P1S and put the DIY one in the X1C.
I just got mine and it looks great - BUT I foolishly thought it came with dryers and it does not- they are a separate item at $80 each. Thanks for the reveiw !
@@UncleJessy haha I appreciate it man 😊. I feel like that’s sort of how my channel started. My attempt to translate complicated into something most can follow. It’s an awesome upgrade if you decide to do it.
10:18 I would put the internal mechanism in after completing the bottom housing and then slotting the panels in and completing the upper part, instead of ladling it in from above. Thanks for posting this very good video!
have you done a video showing off your filament storage? I'm building out an area in my basement and would love to see how other makers organize and manage a large number of spools.
Sorry - that was a dumb question. A quick search of your recent videos gave me the answer: ua-cam.com/video/3aY0ZrOn3xE/v-deo.htmlsi=FcXjTDC1ayNE-SUL Thanks for the content!
So nice to see this! I'm building one myself too. But not for the Bambu, but for the Prusa MMU3. Placing 5 next to eachother instead of 4, no electronics, just a nice decent and fancy 5-spool holder :)
You can make your life easier on hex screws by picking up a right-angle ratcheting screwdriver and some hex bits. Should fit into those tight spaces and gives you a nice ratcheting mechanism.
I've been using mine for about a week now, printing every day. I've had no issues at all. Clearing a length of filament that had snapped (brittle ABS) in one of the feeder ptfe tubes was SO easy since they are easily accessible (I haven't built the enclosure yet). The build is a little fiddly at times, but wasn't difficult, just time consuming. The project felt extremely well designed and thought out. I believe the designer is an engineer by trade if I remember correctly.
While it may seem Overkill to have four dryers on the unit, it's worth remembering that each dryer was only really intended to dry one spool of filament at a time, and while it may be capable of more, its performance is going to suffer when it's pushed harder, especially with as big a volume as this has
So you would need to buy the two polydryers separate at about $160+tax usd and this enclosure and hardware for another $75+tax usd for a total of $235+whatever taxes was. Hmm I've been fortunate haven't had any serious issues with my AMS so this isn't for me but I do like the dryer idea, I wonder if we could just cut some holes on the bottom of the AMS to mount one polydryers too with some feet to balance it, then make/print a modified vented version of hydra to let the heat pass through. 🤔
I've been debating on turning one of my AMS' into a Python. Thanks for the review and pointers contained. I am ordering one now, maybe a 2nd later to convert my Hydra AMS over also. And I guess I'll finally break down for at least 1 PolyDryer too
I would think so? I’ve used TPU on my P1P external feeder with no issues and since the external feed bypass on the Python uses just the extruder motor (doesn’t use the AMS feeder gears), it makes sense that it might work. That’s just a theory though since I haven’t built this yet.
Ill check this out. Of the 3 X1Carbons I own with AMS's not one AMS still works and they barely have over 1000 hours printing. I have done my due diligence with maintenance and trying to repair but to no avail. Maybe this mod can fix some of the problems I am dealing with.
My only concern is that it wouldn't be as airtight as the original AMS which has a unibody construction due it being injection molded. As a result more moist air could enter the python as compared to the original enclosure.
How does it secure to the spool? Often the inside of spools are different diameters, how does this stop the spool from spinning instead of the gears that were designed in this for that purpose?
Those lower screws were a nightmare. Overall very satisfied with the build though. It’s been working way better than the stock ams. Just need to find me an airtight box for it. Don’t want to print one
I just purchased this entire kit including the enclosure, and hardware. Going to be an awesome build, and I have a LOT of cardboard spools that I can now use to print with. Thank you for sharing this video.
I feel like I really need to get started on this! My 2 AMS Units are awful and have been for quite some time. I'm just concerned that I'll build this, and the issues will be Bambu hardware that is reused in the Project... 🤘🤘
Seems like they would want to print the bottom braces with lips to place the system snugly into the top. Also, I can see this company making one for the K1/K2 series.
My sole concern is the erratic feeding of the spools; at times they function properly, and at other times they do not-the filament simply slips, and there is no movement, only the sound of the feeder gears turning. Despite installing four new feeder units and a new hub motor, the issue persists. It seems to be a problem with the gearing of the large wheel slipping, or perhaps a torque issue. Fortunately, I have retained one of my original AMS units.
I got excited for a moment thinking I could "build" an AMS for closer to $200 but it appears not as the sum of the individual parts needed (even w/o the enclosure) is more than just buying an AMS.
Tempting but filament swapping looks to be a chore. I have a lot of different filaments and frequently swap them in and out of my 3 AMS units, I think the Python would annoy me real quick.
Hi. At the start of the video you made a statement that the AMS was the most reliable multimaterial system you have used. Have you tried the MMU3 from Prusa. I would like to know how they compare
My mmu3 has been the most inconsistent system I have ever used. Pretty sure it's defective. I've spent more time troubleshooting it than printing with it
I’m new to 3D printing and the understanding of this world so forgive me if the answer is obvious but: So when wanting to use an “abrasive” filament- or one that couldn’t be used with the AMS- with the Python, you will still need to manually load it when you bypass the PFTE tube with the motors? So wanting to print with multiple colors of an abrasive filament still needs to be done manually? If I had x4 abrasive filaments in here, it’s just acting as a housing for x4 “External Spools”? This wont make using those filaments automatic?
hi ,I am using the python and one dryer which on taking reading around the enclousre i will get another dryer, the python works great and as yet I have had two isues with the python that are reated to dilament drive. I have had to replace one drive motor the other was broken filament insde the ams which was a neusence to ge out, as the removal of the python from the case is a chor. Ther is one thing that I made to help the roll center on the reel as some rolls of filament dont centre well. the thing I made is a screww on spacer for the main filament rolls i use. - It wood be a nice adition to have screw on spacerw or a bigger tapper on the screwon peices to hold the spool in place.
For flexibles I prefer as short of a path as possible. However if you did something like 95A and up it’s very likely this would work fine for it. May take a little effort to get it routed but shouldn’t be too bad.
@@DanielChaves1984 yes! Well the easy load and thumb saver aspect but I don’t know how you would route extra Bowden without drilling for the external function. Also the stock rollers don’t free spin so it wouldn’t work.
Was just looking on Bamboo's store page to see if you could just buy all the parts that are being taken from the ams unit for the python and it seem to me that it is. Anyone else's thoughts?
Really been considering this after HATING the pair of AMS units I have lately. Thanks for making this video. Really curious if this will save my major overruns on print time from AMS issues.
The build is pretty involved but with the 608 bearings and gears used motion is buttery smooth compared to the stock setup. I imagine it will definitely help. While I have used a ton of cardboard spools when they get to the end and are really light I have had issues with them lifting from their slots and not feeding properly. This should completely eliminate that from happening. If I where building from scratch I think I would go without the enclosure just due to me not having moisture issues with what I print but so far I am really enjoying the finished product.
@@ModBotArmy My issue is slipping on the rollers. Even a full spool of Prusament on a plastic spool, still slips. I actually have a video going live like... now, that shows just how bad this has become. Maybe I'll stream the build to justify it, ha.
Buying the hardware kit and the printer parts still requires an AMS to extract additional required parts correct? I want to continue to use my AMS and looking for a cheaper/more versatile solution for 8 color prints. what do you suggest?
Another great video, thanks. I’m curious if there is anything like Bamboo’s AMS available or in development for Creality’s K1C. I’ve done a cursory search and haven’t found anything worth while. My K1C gets delivered on Monday so I’ve been trying to find as many trick mods as possible. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the video.
Yes! They are releasing a very similar device for the K2 and a few people have told me it will be compatible with the K series and Ender 3 v3. What I don’t know is what other upgrades are required to make it work.
Having trouble visualizing how it might support 5 external spools. Are you counting a feed outside the Python? I have a Bambu 4:1 PTFE manifold in front of the AMS PTFE tube which uses up one slot, for just 3 external.
Is it quieter, louder, or the same type of noise as the official? My biggest problem with this printer is how much noise everything makes. I can run all three of my other Voron printers, and this still drowns them out.
It's the spool loading and unloading that's interests me the most ,what's involved how does it work ? .... as baffling and incredible as this sounds no tuber really shows this ...........this to me would be the biggest reason for doing or not doing this "mod".
I don't know if I just missed it, but why would anyone build a Python when the stock AMS works just fine? You still have to buy the Bambu AMS anyway to make one, so it will cost even more to build a Python than just use the Bambu AMS. There would have to be a pretty big gain to justify the extra cost and labor of making one of these and I'm just not seeing it. There are simpler ways of routing abrasive filament to the machine
Just built my Python. Voxel did not clear the debris from the holes. I had to purchase bits for the assembly. My T-handle Allen Head wrenches did not work well. I also had 2 parts arrive cracked. I reprinted them so it wasn't a big deal. I have mixed emotions about this mod. I won't order a second one for my new X1C. I think Bambu will come out with an improved AMS soon.
@@poppin_freshgaming4334 that’s me! I work for LightBurn! Was hired on 3 years ago for support and transitioned to video creation a few months after 😊.
G'day m8......is there any rumors of python getting firmware that will unlock it for any printer to use......Now that would be Awesome....Cheers from A M8 Downunder🙃
i paused the video at 7:21 as something caught my eye. i see gross underextrusion in that large maingear. if i payed for that kit i would have returned it with a note.
if you just keep your 3d printing room at a certain temp you don't need all these fancy things. I never need to dry my filament bc my environment is controlled.
Since you mentioned them. VoxlePLA’s PETG requires higher temperature (recommended by them) to print (265 vs 245). Does this make it stronger afterwards ? What’s the reason for this difference in temperature ?
I love their filaments. I run the PETG HS on my X1C @265 - it is much stronger than Bambu lab petg hf, and I think it's because of stronger bonds between the layers partly because of the higher temp and partly because of better chemistry.
How difficult is it to replace the PTFE tubes? Looks like a very worth while upgrade, but seeing as how those tubes wear out pretty quickly, it may be more of a pain to replace them on this unit (from the looks of it)
Omg I'm in the middle of making my Python AMS! I'm serial #0046. Currently working on making all of the extruder gears and spool holders out of Bambu PA6-GF Nylon. Though I'm struggling with tuning retractions and getting decent bridging without sacrificing strength. At first I had tuned the filament so good I had prints coming out near perfect at around 265°C, but as soon as I printed the Benchy and picked it up, the smoke stack broke off and I realized that cooling the bridges was ruining the layer adhesion strength and I wasn't printing hot enough. I know this is overkill, but I wanted to make a completely wear resistant system. I'm still printing the frame out of PETG though because there are so many overhangs and I have that tuned perfectly, I just wanted the heavy wear parts to be more durable and dimensionally actuate.
Hey thanks for the review! I've linked to it from the project pages, I hope you don't mind.
RFID support is coming soon (with the next update), if testing goes well that is but I'm fairly confident.
@@humebeam hey!! Thanks for making such an awesome upgrade. That’s super exciting for those that print with a fair bit of Bambu lab filament. I don’t mind the linking at all 🙌.
You should make an ams lite version for the A1 fam!
@@ModBotArmy😊😊😊
Hiya! @humebeam I have an X1 Carbon (that's not working right now, but I won't ask for help on that here) and I'd love to have a Python AMS built for me. Do you offer that service? This is such a cool project. I'll be keeping an eye on it for future updates/functionality.
for a moment i thought it was python the programming language, and thought someone decoded the ams protocol or something
same. I almost didn't click on it cause i was like...yeah i can't do that ahha
Honestly I'm kinda shocked no one has figured out a way to make it work
@@digital0785 They have ... The problem is Bambu Lab made sure to make it proprietary, by adding a digital signature to the NFC tags....
It's an unfortunate name for sure.
same lol
My one gripe on this design is that all spools are top loaded. The Python with elcousure is 69mm (nice) taller than a stock closed ams and 79mm shorter than an opened ams unit. This makes stacked designs much taller. I wish there was a way to make them front loaded so that the encousers can be mounted ontop one enouther and allow for a shorter overall stack.
The MicroCenter in Denver is running one of these on their demo P1S, seems really worth for cardboard spools especially because the rollers on mine have been getting gunked up with cardboard dust and stop gripping them reliably
Just ordered the full hardware kit yesterday. I printed the parts in ABS and I cannot wait to put it together! One down, three to go!
A ball-end Allen wrench should work wonders on those hard to reach screws.
I have a chamber heater in my bambu x1c and a bento box and the max chamber temp is 55C-60C and my PETG Bento Box I bought from VoxelPLA, deformed after a couple ASA prints. I bought it with printed parts, so all the parts are printed from PETG from VoxelPLA. Saying all that, if you do want a heated python AMS, I would recommend printing either in ABS, ASA or a better, more heat resistant filament.
Thank you! This is really helpful information
Or you can annealed it
The temperature is not the single variable here. A bento box is expllicitly made to be in DIRECT contact with high airflow. This is not a similar scenario to the environment that the python parts are seeing in operation.
The rate of airflow matters for material softening.
I've already made compatible RFID antennas, and after testing I'll make them open-source
That’s awesome! Do they connect to the computer costing RFID board?
I believe automoderation is pushing little too hard, my answers are magically disapearing
everything is ready and tested
@@Kenagon if you included any links in your responses, you will need to break them in order to post the comment. the YT automod will instantaneously delete any comments that have links in them, even to other videos on YT; or at least that has been my experience.
@blakes8901 even mentioning the name of the repo getting a comment deleted
So I did wind up getting this from Voxel PLA with full hardware kit and everything.
Couple of things to note (Currently assembling the enclosure and will edit with more findings):
1. They didn't go through and remove all the excess filament from the heat sunk inserts. I still had to do that myself, especially on the top trim pieces.
2. While they do send a lot of hardware and bag it all separately depending on what you're building it falls short on what's needed. The instructions clearly call for 28 M3x10mm and they send M3x8mm for whatever reason and 0 M3x12mm. I wound up having to source M3x12 for the top because there's no way that the M3x8 will fit through the top rim, acrylic, and the resting lip for the lid and screw in.
As far as the actual print quality and assembly it's gone really smooth minus the hiccups mentioned above.
I wanted to quickly chime in. Just last week, we updated the design to the new version 1.0.3 version, which is completely insert-less, making it much easier and faster to assemble. As for the screws you mentioned, the original version required the M3x8mm screws, and the new 1.0.3 version will come with the M3x10mm and M3x12mm screws by default.
01:00 without further ado - shows the logo and ads _literally_ delaying on purpose
I hate that phrase. Just skip the whole phrase and get on with it!
For some reason these UA-camrs feel like they have to sound just like a cable tv tech channel. I much rather prefer the down to earth realist approach. No need for pretentious lines like this is some reality tv tech game show.
@@TheFutureLooksGrimm These guys need to make a living. Otherwise, I hope you're ready to pay for quality content out of your own pocket.
I don’t see the problem tho. He said what he was gonna do.
Got the intro and ad out the way and then gave what you came here for. Just skip past it lmao😅😂
I bought my first 3d printer in 2016. A delta printer from a company called "Micromake". From there I went to a Tevo, and then Ender, and now finally Bambu. How far the industry has come in just 8 years is astonishing.
I’ve had a similar experience. I bought the Monoprice Mini Delta when it was an Indiegogo project and used that for several years. I then upgraded to an Ender 3 v2 about 3 years ago. I’m anxiously waiting for the holiday to unwrap my Bambu Lab P1S with AMS.
3D printing technology has come a very long way in the last decade. I’m most excited about being able to print 4x faster than on my Ender, but multi-material printing is exciting too.
@@neversinkmakes You will love the P1S. It's such a fantastic printer, especially with the AMS. I didn't know Bambu Lab had RFID in their spools such that the printer identifies the material, and applies all the correct printing settings. It's very convenient.
I’m so happy you’re making this video. I saw the Python upgrade on printables but I didn’t see anything on UA-cam yet so I didn’t want to jump into it. Very interesting video.
It seems that no one has solved the big issue. Making it easy to open the bottom to clear filament from the feeder. It seems harder to clear the filament because you still need to unscrew it and take it out to be able to get to the bottom of the AMS. Do you think you can ask them to design it with an easy access opening door on the bottom to make it easy to clear the bottom feeder? Thanks
Pretty cool, I think probably safe to get just the parts you need from bambu so you don’t have to gut the other one and then put it on your P1S and put the DIY one in the X1C.
I just got mine and it looks great - BUT I foolishly thought it came with dryers and it does not- they are a separate item at $80 each. Thanks for the reveiw !
Interesting project, looks like it tackles a lot of the deficiencies of the AMS
You are a machine! I was looking into this but was afraid it was way too complicated for me but man you made it seem pretty straightforward
@@UncleJessy haha I appreciate it man 😊. I feel like that’s sort of how my channel started. My attempt to translate complicated into something most can follow. It’s an awesome upgrade if you decide to do it.
You two are the reason I’m motivated to keep 3D printing. ❤🙏
I've been waiting for something like this to come along, looks like it solves a lot of issues I've noticed with the AMS
10:18 I would put the internal mechanism in after completing the bottom housing and then slotting the panels in and completing the upper part, instead of ladling it in from above. Thanks for posting this very good video!
Starting this build myself. Looking at the instructions, it doesn't look like you can fasten the side panels if the AMS is in the way.
@@snart 🤣 Seriously? Oh ,well. I wish you all the best on a successful build.
have you done a video showing off your filament storage? I'm building out an area in my basement and would love to see how other makers organize and manage a large number of spools.
Sorry - that was a dumb question. A quick search of your recent videos gave me the answer: ua-cam.com/video/3aY0ZrOn3xE/v-deo.htmlsi=FcXjTDC1ayNE-SUL Thanks for the content!
So nice to see this! I'm building one myself too. But not for the Bambu, but for the Prusa MMU3. Placing 5 next to eachother instead of 4, no electronics, just a nice decent and fancy 5-spool holder :)
This is amazing, I will certainly be updating my AMS with this setup. Really fixes the feeding and spooling issues. Cool 👍😎
Was hoping to see someone I trust for info test this out, thanks!
You can make your life easier on hex screws by picking up a right-angle ratcheting screwdriver and some hex bits. Should fit into those tight spaces and gives you a nice ratcheting mechanism.
Really like this project. Very tempting. I would love to see a one month follow up video to see if it's living up to expectations.
I've been using mine for about a week now, printing every day. I've had no issues at all. Clearing a length of filament that had snapped (brittle ABS) in one of the feeder ptfe tubes was SO easy since they are easily accessible (I haven't built the enclosure yet). The build is a little fiddly at times, but wasn't difficult, just time consuming. The project felt extremely well designed and thought out. I believe the designer is an engineer by trade if I remember correctly.
Ordered it as soon as I knew it existed. Can't wait!
While it may seem Overkill to have four dryers on the unit, it's worth remembering that each dryer was only really intended to dry one spool of filament at a time, and while it may be capable of more, its performance is going to suffer when it's pushed harder, especially with as big a volume as this has
The 3KG spools would be interesting!
So you would need to buy the two polydryers separate at about $160+tax usd and this enclosure and hardware for another $75+tax usd for a total of $235+whatever taxes was. Hmm I've been fortunate haven't had any serious issues with my AMS so this isn't for me but I do like the dryer idea, I wonder if we could just cut some holes on the bottom of the AMS to mount one polydryers too with some feet to balance it, then make/print a modified vented version of hydra to let the heat pass through. 🤔
I've been debating on turning one of my AMS' into a Python. Thanks for the review and pointers contained. I am ordering one now, maybe a 2nd later to convert my Hydra AMS over also.
And I guess I'll finally break down for at least 1 PolyDryer too
@@WyldCFH1 it’s a really sweet upgrade. Let me know how it goes and your thoughts once you’ve had some time with it 😊
Does adding the external spool functionality make it compatible with tpu/flexibles?
I would think so? I’ve used TPU on my P1P external feeder with no issues and since the external feed bypass on the Python uses just the extruder motor (doesn’t use the AMS feeder gears), it makes sense that it might work. That’s just a theory though since I haven’t built this yet.
Super cool upgrade dude!! I gotta try it soon!
Ill check this out. Of the 3 X1Carbons I own with AMS's not one AMS still works and they barely have over 1000 hours printing. I have done my due diligence with maintenance and trying to repair but to no avail. Maybe this mod can fix some of the problems I am dealing with.
i wonder if you could buy the AMS parts as well to use on a non bambu printer, a simpler build than a ERCF or something like that
Love your content, keep up the great work!
Thank you 🙏
So apart from the enclosure its more or less a "upgrade" from an AMS to an AMS light? Or do I miss something?
The first thing I notice is how much work it will be to remove a AMS first stage feeder for cleaning or repair with the enclosure in place.
I love my Voxel filament! works so well and the white is legit white not like milky!! great vid btw :)
My only concern is that it wouldn't be as airtight as the original AMS which has a unibody construction due it being injection molded. As a result more moist air could enter the python as compared to the original enclosure.
You should get the ifixit toolkit that has the flexible extension.
Now someone needs to design a riser to set the Python unit on top of to clear the printer on both sides.
I feel like having 4 of those heaters is very inefficient and very expensive. Maybe there's another way to heat the python AMS?
How does it secure to the spool? Often the inside of spools are different diameters, how does this stop the spool from spinning instead of the gears that were designed in this for that purpose?
Those lower screws were a nightmare. Overall very satisfied with the build though. It’s been working way better than the stock ams. Just need to find me an airtight box for it. Don’t want to print one
Haha yeah, I feel like most of the time I spent on the main-assembly was those damn lower screws! End result is awesome though.
Not sure why at 8:00 the LTT Screwdriver was very Distracting. lol
I just purchased this entire kit including the enclosure, and hardware. Going to be an awesome build, and I have a LOT of cardboard spools that I can now use to print with.
Thank you for sharing this video.
I feel like I really need to get started on this! My 2 AMS Units are awful and have been for quite some time. I'm just concerned that I'll build this, and the issues will be Bambu hardware that is reused in the Project... 🤘🤘
Seems like they would want to print the bottom braces with lips to place the system snugly into the top. Also, I can see this company making one for the K1/K2 series.
My sole concern is the erratic feeding of the spools; at times they function properly, and at other times they do not-the filament simply slips, and there is no movement, only the sound of the feeder gears turning. Despite installing four new feeder units and a new hub motor, the issue persists. It seems to be a problem with the gearing of the large wheel slipping, or perhaps a torque issue. Fortunately, I have retained one of my original AMS units.
I got excited for a moment thinking I could "build" an AMS for closer to $200 but it appears not as the sum of the individual parts needed (even w/o the enclosure) is more than just buying an AMS.
Tempting but filament swapping looks to be a chore. I have a lot of different filaments and frequently swap them in and out of my 3 AMS units, I think the Python would annoy me real quick.
I’m surprised your driver kit doesn’t have a flexible extension. It would have worked a treat, no Allen wrench required.
Hi. At the start of the video you made a statement that the AMS was the most reliable multimaterial system you have used. Have you tried the MMU3 from Prusa. I would like to know how they compare
Currently finishing assembly we will run first print this Wednesday on stream so hopefully I’ll have some more feedback on the next month or so.
@@ModBotArmy Thank you so much for your quick response. Love the channel. Keep it up!! 👍
My mmu3 has been the most inconsistent system I have ever used. Pretty sure it's defective. I've spent more time troubleshooting it than printing with it
Nice LTT driver lol. So you do hafta buy the original ams box with the P1?
I’m new to 3D printing and the understanding of this world so forgive me if the answer is obvious but:
So when wanting to use an “abrasive” filament- or one that couldn’t be used with the AMS- with the Python, you will still need to manually load it when you bypass the PFTE tube with the motors? So wanting to print with multiple colors of an abrasive filament still needs to be done manually?
If I had x4 abrasive filaments in here, it’s just acting as a housing for x4 “External Spools”? This wont make using those filaments automatic?
hi ,I am using the python and one dryer which on taking reading around the enclousre i will get another dryer, the python works great and as yet I have had two isues with the python that are reated to dilament drive. I have had to replace one drive motor
the other was broken filament insde the ams which was a neusence to ge out, as the removal of the python from the case is a chor. Ther is one thing that I made to help the roll center on the reel as some rolls of filament dont centre well. the thing I made is a screww on spacer for the main filament rolls i use. - It wood be a nice adition to have screw on spacerw or a bigger tapper on the screwon peices to hold the spool in place.
anyone have a hint on when we will see their next release. I have been putting off a purchase for several months.
They have been very quiet. I have heard nothing on new machines.
Did you check if you could source the parts from Bambu Labs rather than robbing an existing AMS unit?
Great video
Since it supports bypassing most of the feeder mechanism and directly rotates the spools, can this handle flexible as well as abrasives?
For flexibles I prefer as short of a path as possible. However if you did something like 95A and up it’s very likely this would work fine for it. May take a little effort to get it routed but shouldn’t be too bad.
@@ModBotArmy could you use those bypass caps on the stock AMS?
@@DanielChaves1984 yes! Well the easy load and thumb saver aspect but I don’t know how you would route extra Bowden without drilling for the external function. Also the stock rollers don’t free spin so it wouldn’t work.
Was just looking on Bamboo's store page to see if you could just buy all the parts that are being taken from the ams unit for the python and it seem to me that it is. Anyone else's thoughts?
Is it cheaper to get a brand new AMS and cannibalize the parts needed or just buy every single AMS parts(considering no use for RFID circuit board)
Really been considering this after HATING the pair of AMS units I have lately. Thanks for making this video. Really curious if this will save my major overruns on print time from AMS issues.
The build is pretty involved but with the 608 bearings and gears used motion is buttery smooth compared to the stock setup. I imagine it will definitely help. While I have used a ton of cardboard spools when they get to the end and are really light I have had issues with them lifting from their slots and not feeding properly. This should completely eliminate that from happening. If I where building from scratch I think I would go without the enclosure just due to me not having moisture issues with what I print but so far I am really enjoying the finished product.
@@ModBotArmy My issue is slipping on the rollers. Even a full spool of Prusament on a plastic spool, still slips. I actually have a video going live like... now, that shows just how bad this has become. Maybe I'll stream the build to justify it, ha.
Buying the hardware kit and the printer parts still requires an AMS to extract additional required parts correct? I want to continue to use my AMS and looking for a cheaper/more versatile solution for 8 color prints. what do you suggest?
Newest version makes it RFID compatible, I think its 1.03? but yea, thats a new thing and def doing this mod!
Looking good... Can print TPU Multicolor with this and/multimaterial? Or it has.the same issue of the stock AMS for TPU? Cheers
You can! You need to run a second line (as if it was an external spool ) but it supports natively. 3:53
So...I have the Hydra kit ready to install. But should I go Python instead? Is it enough improved over the Hydra to be worth it?
very nice thank you, please what kind of screwdriver is it? amazing solution
Does this allow the possibility of running tpu through the “ams”?
Is it possible to just buy the AMS components needed for this build instead of buying one just to remove most of the parts?
Another great video, thanks.
I’m curious if there is anything like Bamboo’s AMS available or in development for Creality’s K1C. I’ve done a cursory search and haven’t found anything worth while.
My K1C gets delivered on Monday so I’ve been trying to find as many trick mods as possible. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the video.
Yes! They are releasing a very similar device for the K2 and a few people have told me it will be compatible with the K series and Ender 3 v3. What I don’t know is what other upgrades are required to make it work.
Having trouble visualizing how it might support 5 external spools. Are you counting a feed outside the Python? I have a Bambu 4:1 PTFE manifold in front of the AMS PTFE tube which uses up one slot, for just 3 external.
@@ziggystardog it would be 4 external spools. I think you’re referring to when I say 5 Bowden tubes. One is for the one coming out of the AMS feed.
@@ModBotArmy Ahh… thanks. It didn’t occur to me that one of the tubes was the Python outlet.
Is it quieter, louder, or the same type of noise as the official? My biggest problem with this printer is how much noise everything makes. I can run all three of my other Voron printers, and this still drowns them out.
@@yusky03 I haven’t measured but it might be slightly louder. The enclosure helps to dampen it.
Does it help with running flexible filaments through the AMS?
hey does this work for every printer or just bambulab
It's the spool loading and unloading that's interests me the most ,what's involved how does it work ? .... as baffling and incredible as this sounds no tuber really shows this ...........this to me would be the biggest reason for doing or not doing this "mod".
Wish there was a version for AMS Lite.
Hi great video as always 👍, dose this allow the AMS to be used with other printers ? ,
Why would it? It’s the guts of an AMS in a new box is all.
I don't know if I just missed it, but why would anyone build a Python when the stock AMS works just fine? You still have to buy the Bambu AMS anyway to make one, so it will cost even more to build a Python than just use the Bambu AMS. There would have to be a pretty big gain to justify the extra cost and labor of making one of these and I'm just not seeing it. There are simpler ways of routing abrasive filament to the machine
When he said let’s get right into this video… I really felt that part bro
Just built my Python. Voxel did not clear the debris from the holes. I had to purchase bits for the assembly. My T-handle Allen Head wrenches did not work well. I also had 2 parts arrive cracked. I reprinted them so it wasn't a big deal. I have mixed emotions about this mod. I won't order a second one for my new X1C. I think Bambu will come out with an improved AMS soon.
The fast that the enclosure is not within the wight of the printer is making my OCD crawl under my skin.
Width?
My ocd in overdrive with your spelling.
Mate you're complaining about your OCD on the width of this part, while making a post filled with spelling errors. Queue Alanis Morissette.
will this work with the A1?
So you have to sacrifice an AMS to make this. No one has made a kit that will work?
Are you the dude who voices over the Lightburn tutorials?
@@poppin_freshgaming4334 that’s me! I work for LightBurn! Was hired on 3 years ago for support and transitioned to video creation a few months after 😊.
@@ModBotArmy HA! That's awesome! I got my new Thunder laser this week and I'm learning LB and I was like, man that voice sounds familiar.
G'day m8......is there any rumors of python getting firmware that will unlock it for any printer to use......Now that would be Awesome....Cheers from A M8 Downunder🙃
Maybe this would fix @mandicreally ‘s problem with his AMS!
i paused the video at 7:21 as something caught my eye. i see gross underextrusion in that large maingear. if i payed for that kit i would have returned it with a note.
if you just keep your 3d printing room at a certain temp you don't need all these fancy things. I never need to dry my filament bc my environment is controlled.
Very cool! 😎
Since you mentioned them. VoxlePLA’s PETG requires higher temperature (recommended by them) to print (265 vs 245). Does this make it stronger afterwards ? What’s the reason for this difference in temperature ?
I love their filaments. I run the PETG HS on my X1C @265 - it is much stronger than Bambu lab petg hf, and I think it's because of stronger bonds between the layers partly because of the higher temp and partly because of better chemistry.
Following with interest
pls more content about zerog mercury 1.1 and hydra system. and maby ERCF v2 project.
does it work with tpu?
Good question. An answer would be nice. It was a pain in the ass to learn this for the first time I tried with the ams.
How difficult is it to replace the PTFE tubes?
Looks like a very worth while upgrade, but seeing as how those tubes wear out pretty quickly, it may be more of a pain to replace them on this unit (from the looks of it)
In the enclosure it would be 6 screws to detach the unit from it and then pull it out to have access. No enclosure it’s immediately available.
Omg I'm in the middle of making my Python AMS! I'm serial #0046. Currently working on making all of the extruder gears and spool holders out of Bambu PA6-GF Nylon. Though I'm struggling with tuning retractions and getting decent bridging without sacrificing strength. At first I had tuned the filament so good I had prints coming out near perfect at around 265°C, but as soon as I printed the Benchy and picked it up, the smoke stack broke off and I realized that cooling the bridges was ruining the layer adhesion strength and I wasn't printing hot enough. I know this is overkill, but I wanted to make a completely wear resistant system. I'm still printing the frame out of PETG though because there are so many overhangs and I have that tuned perfectly, I just wanted the heavy wear parts to be more durable and dimensionally actuate.
I donated but haven’t build yet 😂 I need to print as well!!
It’s awesome man. Definitely a super cool upgrade 😊
same
@@jayfc3 I tried to print housing with ASA but warped then I stopped 😂 I’ll try something with GF/CF. Maybe PBT GF
Cool mod but I’m going to stick with the clean look of the ams
Best feature of Bambu AMS is just drop in spool and load. Kinda bummer you have to screw lock the spool on python.
Currently RFID compatible now.
Lo peor de los ams, es cuando tenes que desarmarlo por un filamento roto y no veo que el mod arregle eso. Al contrario.