I feel like I'm sitting next to a highway with all sorts of vehicle moving past me in an extremely slow motion. And there's also this huge ship blowing its horn all the time.
That's because he uses the microtones to create a more accurate version of the overtone series. The overtones are everywhere in nature and has existed since the beginning of time :)
This was surely an experience. Absolutely fantastic. Its like the feeling of emptyness. Being in a unfamiliar place that is void of any recent human evidence apart from perhaps some buildings that are abandoned for whatever reason it may be. You undergo feelings of fear and confusion and finally become content with the situation as you decay away in this void.
This is far beyond my intelligence level, but as a music lover and listener, I have recently discovered your compositions. My personal take away with this piece, is that it is filled with so emotion for me, captivation and pain. It's like hearing the reality that we ignore because it's too painful or we choose to put blinders on. in really simple terms, this is amazing and complex for absence of melody. It speaks a different language, one that is uncomfortable for me to hear, yet is intriguing and I want to explore more. It speaks volumes that words cant seem to define or articulate. wow (in a good way)
+eurobpm To me, it sounds like an exploration of tuning - how different stringed instruments pitches are affected by the physics of the instrument - while so much of this is unison playing, there is no such thing as truly perfect unison because of the tiny differences in pitch between the instruments, and we hear that more closely in a quartet texture, and the composer exaggerates it with vibrato, quarter tones, etc.
Especially for Georg friedrich Has this music is not about intelligence, he describes his approach as anti intellectual ( i seem to remember)l, he is interested in the actual sound of music itself rather than a more intellectual approach.
eurobpm in simple terms this is pure sound, as every music and everything audible. explore it. be alert. doesn't have to fit in usual patterns or norms or tastes.
I've never studied music, and can't tell you a lick of the differences between the various types of compositions. But, I personally enjoy this piece because I find it extremely suitable on creating an atmosphere that I'm looking for in particular while working on my horror novel. What draws me to this particular piece is the sense of dread and unexpectedness that comes from it, and serves as a perfect inspiration and muse for the dread and tension that the main character feels throughout the story.
every composition is a new whole world. doesn't have to fit in usual patterns or norms. doesn't have to convey a "meaning". forget your mental constructions & just listen, just see, just be. be alert. explore every sound, every image, every colour. infinite worlds within infinite worlds. your mind alone is the wonder of wonders!
This is the best advice I've ever heard. ' I particularly love the transition at 14:10 - 14:16.The piece seems to have almost a narrative arc - which may not be intended, but is in the mind of this listener. The shape of the piece intrigues me. I find listening to it a very satisfying experience because I didn't start with any preconceived notions of what music can or can't be. I like it.
I don't find this advice satisfactory. If my mind alone is the wonder of wonders, then it's the one doing the composing and the art here, and I think that's taking too much away from the artist's responsibility and giving too much credit for a lot of the stuff that marches around as music these days, like Justin Bieber. By the way, I don't think this piece sucks at all. Although, as always, I'm not sure its duration is justified yet.
it's new, it's different, it's certainly not wonderful. in the same way I don't like romantic comedies, I don't like serialist works. who cares? you can stick to your pretensions and pretend you are the more avid listener. stop trying to convince everyone that your way is the better way of enjoying art.
The first 4 1/2 minutes are exposing some partials of C, the cello's lowest note. Then it seems Haas turns to exploring glissandi. When you think you've caught the idea, the piece takes another turn.
Everyone is talking about how this reminds them of machines, engines, highways and airplanes. For me, this music sounds like the sounds one would hear in hell. The waves that would struck your ears when you enter it, just like the entry to this work, inducing hallucination. And the sighs and cries you hear when you're already deep inside of it, alike the ones of those who are dwelling and stewing hell. On one hand, I thought that my interpretation was the superior one. But then on the other hand, I was scared to see that the two are more connected than I would want them to be...
Its amazing how people treat this music the way people treated early 20th century art and the way people rejected and criticized Rock and Roll. Music is music. Its just not your type of music. I love modernism and the exploration of sound and i dislike Mozart. Everyone has their taste. Dont be rude to people who are trying to enjoy their own little tastes.
Jon, well, you and I should sit down and talk about Mozart ;) I agree with what you said. And I really enjoy this piece. I invite you to listen to this quartet: String Quartet by Craig Walsh
Thanks for sharing with the sheet. For me this piece is a picture of the beginning of the universe. You can listen the water the wind the earth and the fire the steel. it represents everything. thanks
Wow! you need a REALLY good ear to play this! all the micro tuning and harmonics. Sounds great when everything occasionally comes into 'just' tuning for the odd moment.
From Penderecki forward we have a lot of use of constantly sliding pitches. This is often very interesting and creates beautiful accidentals on the way and great tonal and emotive ambiguity...also the weird sort of doppler effect of moving past. It's the orientation of this piece in particular that's fascinating. Is it moving slowly, or is it remaining still and things are moving past it? On the other hand I hear so much of this constant glissando it can create a muddiness that reminds me of a musical version of a drip painting...not everybody is a Pollack.
johnpcomposer wrote: "On the other hand I hear so much of this constant glissando it can create a muddiness that reminds me of a musical version of a drip painting..." not sure that applies here to this piece but I love the analogy: glissando = drip - great imagination!
If you listen to this for 5 minutes and then click to something else, you're doing yourself a disservice. This quartet needs to be heard all the way through to have its full effect. The microtonal shifts stop, and the coda completely changes character to a gorgeous, but bleak, tonal nirvana.
sehr schön entspannend ,interessante Notenschreibweise,alles ist möglich in der Zukunft es ist wie eine Zeitreise.....danke es inspiriert mich ich dachte in der Mitte des Stücks klang wie Husten auch erinnert es an Krieg irgendwie
Question for anyone who might know: when a group performs a piece like this, are all 4 players reading from the score, or from individual parts w/ just their own staves?
Dear Mark, this is Simone from the Kairos Quartet. Yes, we are all performing from the score. This is very much recommanded for this type of music, and also in general for chamber music. Cheers.
because its real, and after the crisis of the mid-late 20th century (coming out of the institutionalized dominance of serialism), many composers realized that they can't work with materials that aren't sensually real in that sense.
Gen Tanaka Sure it's real, but there sometimes seems to be an aspect of naivete (or fashion, even cheapness) in directly copying that reality into art.
You're right Paul. I mean before we were standing on the backs of giants using every elaboration built upon the harmonic series that had become western harmony, and here people are piddle diddling around. This is worse than strict serialism to me.
Without analysing the score, I hear a piece of spectral music to some extent relying on patterns, quite light, a touch of new simplicity certainly. What does it have to do with harmonic series (apart from the obvious fact that overtones are, for basic physical reasons, integral part of any music)? (I ask this as an actual question.)
i actually think this piece is very beautiful, even if it is unconventional and dissonant. i don't know what haas' original intention was but to me it seems like an attempt at capturing an environment or experience that is unfamiliar to humans through a medium that is, like if someone tried to take a photograph of the 4th dimension.
Включил примерно в середине, в 11:30 - как будто мухи жужжат. Но это ok, мне нравятся мухи, особенно те которые сверкают как изумруд, они весёлые такие.
Here the cellist needs to put additonal power on the power and turn it somewhat while stroking the string. Cheers, Simone from the Kairos Quartet (the performers of this recording).
+U R Mikcomposer Where is the scientific study that shows the "the universe vibrate to theses harmonics" (sic). This is mostly some pseudo-science idea. Normal sound vibrations don't exist without air, and if you want to talk about string theory, well I don't think particle vibrations produce sound. They are far too small to have an effect on something as large as a molecule. You seem to think that this piece is using the natural universe vibrations. so tell me, which note is the universe vibrating at?
+Erich von Manstein He's just talking about the overtone series (or harmonic series), which is pretty much solely used up until ms. 57. And that is extremely "natural."
A long time ago music was supposed to be beautiful, maybe even tuneful. That was a long time ago. Now we have much of this. Not exactly what I call "dinner music." If this is how Georg is feeling I know a good therapist who can help him work through this neurosis.
This music is highly experimental, classical music in the the 20th century was highly experimental because more and more people wanted to break free from older forms and wanted to create new styles and techniques. Haas employed a technique called Spectralism, which makes use of different timbres, microtonality, and extended positions. The spectralist composers were constantly looking for new sounds.
@@excuseyou7198 The Manhattan project in Los Alamos was looking for new sounds. At the Trinity Test Site they experimented with a new technology and came up with music they never forgot. They played that song again in Hiroshima and the results were mighty impressive. Just because something is experimental does not mean it results in anything I want to hear. Being an old fashioned sort of guy I like my music to be engaging and occasionally beautiful.
Bei Takt 86 hört man besonders die Angriffsflugzeuge und Sirenen ,bei Takt 106 fängt es an zwischendurch wohlklingend zu werden zwischen Harmonie und Einklang,jedenfalls Herr G. F. Haas versteht was von Geigen das ist akzeptabel .......
This is not that far off from music. Have a try at Spiral Tower by Psychotic Waltz, they wrote that in the eighties in a hospital as the legend tells. Phenomenal song, very similar musical ideas. When I come to think of it, Psychotic Waltz might be a reason why I actually LIKE Haas. Acquired taste.
I feel like I'm sitting next to a highway with all sorts of vehicle moving past me in an extremely slow motion. And there's also this huge ship blowing its horn all the time.
7:00
And now Hamilton takes the lead, but no!!! Over the bend comes Mark Webber and OHHHH
Criminally underrated comment
Unfortunately the V6s don't sound like that anymore...
something about this feels primordial
That's because he uses the microtones to create a more accurate version of the overtone series. The overtones are everywhere in nature and has existed since the beginning of time :)
This was surely an experience. Absolutely fantastic. Its like the feeling of emptyness. Being in a unfamiliar place that is void of any recent human evidence apart from perhaps some buildings that are abandoned for whatever reason it may be. You undergo feelings of fear and confusion and finally become content with the situation as you decay away in this void.
i feel like i hear this everyday; it sounds like the world
That was the fastest 20 minutes of my night
This is far beyond my intelligence level, but as a music lover and listener, I have recently discovered your compositions. My personal take away with this piece, is that it is filled with so emotion for me, captivation and pain. It's like hearing the reality that we ignore because it's too painful or we choose to put blinders on. in really simple terms, this is amazing and complex for absence of melody. It speaks a different language, one that is uncomfortable for me to hear, yet is intriguing and I want to explore more. It speaks volumes that words cant seem to define or articulate. wow (in a good way)
+eurobpm I think that if you're smart enough to give yourself the chance to listen to new music, then this music is not beyond your intelligence.
+eurobpm To me, it sounds like an exploration of tuning - how different stringed instruments pitches are affected by the physics of the instrument - while so much of this is unison playing, there is no such thing as truly perfect unison because of the tiny differences in pitch between the instruments, and we hear that more closely in a quartet texture, and the composer exaggerates it with vibrato, quarter tones, etc.
listening to avant-garde music has nothing to do with intelligence
Especially for Georg friedrich Has this music is not about intelligence, he describes his approach as anti intellectual ( i seem to remember)l, he is interested in the actual sound of music itself rather than a more intellectual approach.
eurobpm in simple terms this is pure sound, as every music and everything audible. explore it. be alert. doesn't have to fit in usual patterns or norms or tastes.
This is one of my favorite string quartets. Such a haunting piece.
no idea how many hundreds of times i must've listened to this piece at this point. thank you so much.
I've never studied music, and can't tell you a lick of the differences between the various types of compositions. But, I personally enjoy this piece because I find it extremely suitable on creating an atmosphere that I'm looking for in particular while working on my horror novel. What draws me to this particular piece is the sense of dread and unexpectedness that comes from it, and serves as a perfect inspiration and muse for the dread and tension that the main character feels throughout the story.
is your book done?
Hi, what's your book tittle ?
How about that book title?
every composition is a new whole world. doesn't have to fit in usual patterns or norms. doesn't have to convey a "meaning". forget your mental constructions & just listen, just see, just be. be alert. explore every sound, every image, every colour. infinite worlds within infinite worlds. your mind alone is the wonder of wonders!
This is the best advice I've ever heard. ' I particularly love the transition at 14:10 - 14:16.The piece seems to have almost a narrative arc - which may not be intended, but is in the mind of this listener. The shape of the piece intrigues me. I find listening to it a very satisfying experience because I didn't start with any preconceived notions of what music can or can't be. I like it.
I don't find this advice satisfactory. If my mind alone is the wonder of wonders, then it's the one doing the composing and the art here, and I think that's taking too much away from the artist's responsibility and giving too much credit for a lot of the stuff that marches around as music these days, like Justin Bieber.
By the way, I don't think this piece sucks at all. Although, as always, I'm not sure its duration is justified yet.
it's new, it's different, it's certainly not wonderful. in the same way I don't like romantic comedies, I don't like serialist works. who cares?
you can stick to your pretensions and pretend you are the more avid listener. stop trying to convince everyone that your way is the better way of enjoying art.
The first 4 1/2 minutes are exposing some partials of C, the cello's lowest note. Then it seems Haas turns to exploring glissandi. When you think you've caught the idea, the piece takes another turn.
Occasionally I forget this is a quartet, and think I'm listening to a string orchestra
Everyone is talking about how this reminds them of machines, engines, highways and airplanes. For me, this music sounds like the sounds one would hear in hell. The waves that would struck your ears when you enter it, just like the entry to this work, inducing hallucination. And the sighs and cries you hear when you're already deep inside of it, alike the ones of those who are dwelling and stewing hell.
On one hand, I thought that my interpretation was the superior one. But then on the other hand, I was scared to see that the two are more connected than I would want them to be...
That’s fascinating. This piece is immensely beautiful and lovely to me
Its amazing how people treat this music the way people treated early 20th century art and the way people rejected and criticized Rock and Roll. Music is music. Its just not your type of music. I love modernism and the exploration of sound and i dislike Mozart. Everyone has their taste. Dont be rude to people who are trying to enjoy their own little tastes.
Jon, well, you and I should sit down and talk about Mozart ;) I agree with what you said. And I really enjoy this piece. I invite you to listen to this quartet:
String Quartet by Craig Walsh
I feel performers are 90% of success of this piece. Sounds v nice
sure
Ροκ
damn that opening is fing beautiful
the score is a gem thank you so much for posting
I wanna play this so bad man
It's as if time has stopped and we are floating in space...
Yes
Pure harmonic series in some parts, sounds very interesting.
I love Haas! what a fascinating piece!
Now I will have this earworm in my head all day. lol
6:59 I'm addicted to this now 💀
Thanks for sharing with the sheet. For me this piece is a picture of the beginning of the universe. You can listen the water the wind the earth and the fire the steel. it represents everything. thanks
The first "classical music" i can relate to. i like it.
i love you so so much for this upload!
Some very interesting and beautiful sounds
This sounds a lot like the noises an airplane makes when it's getting ready for takeoff. They're almost identical.
Wow! you need a REALLY good ear to play this! all the micro tuning and harmonics. Sounds great when everything occasionally comes into 'just' tuning for the odd moment.
8:11 is very beautiful.
Holy Moly. What a work of genius.
What a great performance!
From Penderecki forward we have a lot of use of constantly sliding pitches. This is often very interesting and creates beautiful accidentals on the way and great tonal and emotive ambiguity...also the weird sort of doppler effect of moving past. It's the orientation of this piece in particular that's fascinating. Is it moving slowly, or is it remaining still and things are moving past it? On the other hand I hear so much of this constant glissando it can create a muddiness that reminds me of a musical version of a drip painting...not everybody is a Pollack.
johnpcomposer wrote: "On the other hand I hear so much of this constant glissando it can create a muddiness that reminds me of a musical version of a drip painting..." not sure that applies here to this piece but I love the analogy: glissando = drip - great imagination!
If you like this piece you might like Alfred Schnittke's Concerto Grosso no. 1
Love the hand written score!
Sounds, feels like a plane in flight; maybe even a spaceship... ♡ Love the drone...
For me this sounds like an Ancient machine beign rebooted over and over again- awesome !
This is perfection ❤
Bellissimo!!!
Questa musica ricorda molto quella di Giacinto Scelsi.
If you listen to this for 5 minutes and then click to something else, you're doing yourself a disservice. This quartet needs to be heard all the way through to have its full effect. The microtonal shifts stop, and the coda completely changes character to a gorgeous, but bleak, tonal nirvana.
I like how it sounds, especially 6:36, sounds like you're in a bad dream or nightmare
BEAUTIFUL
Thanks for the upload!
Spectral music feeling
can't hate on this. very unique and persistent
Puts me in mind of the movie, Crash (1996).
beautiful!
wow this is quite unique
sehr schön entspannend ,interessante Notenschreibweise,alles ist möglich in der Zukunft es ist wie eine Zeitreise.....danke es inspiriert mich ich dachte in der Mitte des Stücks klang wie Husten auch erinnert es an Krieg irgendwie
The harmonies could cut through bone.
New to me , but this took me away to another place!
decent; like trance music of any type whether eno or cage, it is what it is, good trippy music, and there is always a time and a place for it.
You expressed what I felt about this music
Question for anyone who might know: when a group performs a piece like this, are all 4 players reading from the score, or from individual parts w/ just their own staves?
Good question!
Dear Mark, this is Simone from the Kairos Quartet. Yes, we are all performing from the score. This is very much recommanded for this type of music, and also in general for chamber music. Cheers.
Sometimes it is not enough to listen to the music: you also have to see it.
Harmonic series sure seems fashionable nowadays.
As always.
because its real, and after the crisis of the mid-late 20th century (coming out of the institutionalized dominance of serialism), many composers realized that they can't work with materials that aren't sensually real in that sense.
Gen Tanaka Sure it's real, but there sometimes seems to be an aspect of naivete (or fashion, even cheapness) in directly copying that reality into art.
You're right Paul. I mean before we were standing on the backs of giants using every elaboration built upon the harmonic series that had become western harmony, and here people are piddle diddling around. This is worse than strict serialism to me.
Without analysing the score, I hear a piece of spectral music to some extent relying on patterns, quite light, a touch of new simplicity certainly. What does it have to do with harmonic series (apart from the obvious fact that overtones are, for basic physical reasons, integral part of any music)? (I ask this as an actual question.)
Haas is great
Lovely!
the Scelsi is real in this one
i actually think this piece is very beautiful, even if it is unconventional and dissonant. i don't know what haas' original intention was but to me it seems like an attempt at capturing an environment or experience that is unfamiliar to humans through a medium that is, like if someone tried to take a photograph of the 4th dimension.
reminds me of some imagery I had listening to Penderecki.
This guy should make horror game soundtracks.
spectral music..
When I listening to this video I remember the Dunkirk movie.
Just the bars of Glissando would cause my fingers to fall off.
Loving all the negative comments. "This is so shit and not music".... is exactly what Mozart would have said I Rachmaninov.
True
🤣🤣🤣
Very impressive interpretation. Good job. 🫡
Ich würde Georg Friedrich Haas niemals ein Klavier verkaufen.
hahahaha
ich auch 😂😂😂
Включил примерно в середине, в 11:30 - как будто мухи жужжат.
Но это ok, мне нравятся мухи, особенно те которые сверкают как изумруд, они весёлые такие.
sodelicious...
Brilliant
What is the effect in the cello at 4:27? I assume it's a scratch tone with a sudden muting of the strings with the left hand, but I'm not sure.
+Noah Goulet Probably something like that yes
It's a known technique called fartissamento.
Short hard and tiny bit of bow. Everyone farts, even cellos.
Here the cellist needs to put additonal power on the power and turn it somewhat while stroking the string. Cheers, Simone from the Kairos Quartet (the performers of this recording).
This is so funny, omg that scratch tone section at 4:20 lol
Natural acoustic deployment. Our universe vibrate to theses harmonics
+U R Mikcomposer Where is the scientific study that shows the "the universe vibrate to theses harmonics" (sic). This is mostly some pseudo-science idea. Normal sound vibrations don't exist without air, and if you want to talk about string theory, well I don't think particle vibrations produce sound. They are far too small to have an effect on something as large as a molecule.
You seem to think that this piece is using the natural universe vibrations. so tell me, which note is the universe vibrating at?
+Erich von Manstein 42
Steven is correct
+Erich von Manstein He's just talking about the overtone series (or harmonic series), which is pretty much solely used up until ms. 57. And that is extremely "natural."
Yeah, the cello part is lit XD. I see three whole notes here, two of which are open strings.
This is rubbish.
I really like this
I wonder if the composer for the hunger games themes took inspiration from this type of work
It sounds like a traffic jam in New York.
very good indeed.
Such a weird string quartet has a Beutifful texture
6:47 Formula 1 race
6:47 when u wanted to become a formula 1 racer but ur parents forced u to play the violin
Herr Haas seems to be fascinated with mosquitoes.
Either that, the dentist or the violins. They all sound the same.
A long time ago music was supposed to be beautiful, maybe even tuneful. That was a long time ago. Now we have much of this. Not exactly what I call "dinner music." If this is how Georg is feeling I know a good therapist who can help him work through this neurosis.
This music is highly experimental, classical music in the the 20th century was highly experimental because more and more people wanted to break free from older forms and wanted to create new styles and techniques. Haas employed a technique called Spectralism, which makes use of different timbres, microtonality, and extended positions. The spectralist composers were constantly looking for new sounds.
@@excuseyou7198 The Manhattan project in Los Alamos was looking for new sounds. At the Trinity Test Site they experimented with a new technology and came up with music they never forgot. They played that song again in Hiroshima and the results were mighty impressive. Just because something is experimental does not mean it results in anything I want to hear. Being an old fashioned sort of guy I like my music to be engaging and occasionally beautiful.
14:10 gives us a moment to breathe
Haas takes classical music in a different direction
And it's accessible
If you like this, you may possibly like Tuur's violin concerto...
Beauty
nice
Bei Takt 86 hört man besonders die Angriffsflugzeuge und Sirenen ,bei Takt 106 fängt es an zwischendurch wohlklingend zu werden zwischen Harmonie und Einklang,jedenfalls
Herr G. F. Haas versteht was von Geigen das ist akzeptabel .......
so playful!
what is the purpose of those glissandos if they are mostly between semitones?!!
The representation of the harmonic series' overtones hzs instability
exactly. bends.....in fact i got the bends listening
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Would it be possible to share the score?
No, the score is protected by copyright.
As sick as it gets - almost.
This is not that far off from music. Have a try at Spiral Tower by Psychotic Waltz, they wrote that in the eighties in a hospital as the legend tells. Phenomenal song, very similar musical ideas. When I come to think of it, Psychotic Waltz might be a reason why I actually LIKE Haas. Acquired taste.
lol
"Music" that's as cold as a new razor blade...........................................................
Put it on x2 speed it's MUCH better
4:24
BARAKA MOVIE 20:17 minutes. Its the same .