Skoda Enyaq Coupé RS 1000 km challenge part 2

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  • Опубліковано 4 гру 2024

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  • @pristak
    @pristak 2 роки тому +53

    Absolutely agree that Ionity needs to start sharing the power across more stations. 4 stations with 350kW reserved could easily charge 12 cars with max or close to max charging power.

  • @itsbilln2178
    @itsbilln2178 2 роки тому +35

    Suggestions:
    1. Cabin should be at a comfortable temperature at all times in every car tested, including when charging.
    2. Add columns to speed sheet for total charging time and total charger queuing time.

  • @chobi9903
    @chobi9903 2 роки тому +24

    It's quite fun to see the charging queue at Ionity in Varberg. I was there a couple of days ago, and there was a charging queue, but 20m away at McD, there is 4 Clever chargers @175kW, which all were open. Those are also a lot more affordable than Ionity without subscription 😆

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +15

      The e-on chargers also accepts regular credit cards. This should be mandatory across Europe. Also just 50 m away, Tesla has 20 v3 supercharger stalls open for everyone (except for Leaf and other CHAdeMO cars... lol).

    • @chobi9903
      @chobi9903 2 роки тому

      @@bjornnyland Yeah, all I can guess is that some people don't know that one is opened yet, since it wasn't available a while back when I passed by and checked the app. It at least opened later than the one down in Mellbystrand which is the first Supercharger I tried. Still prefer the Clever due to the card payment though 😄

  • @jopo7
    @jopo7 2 роки тому +23

    Without all used deductions these tests would be useless. Keep it like it has been.

  • @borabora8757
    @borabora8757 2 роки тому +7

    The new James Bond Film: "Spectre, Spectre, Spectre"

  • @tesla-spectre
    @tesla-spectre 2 роки тому +12

    as always excellent and this time with a lot of extra tepuble. The Enyaq Coupe looks soooo much slicker than the original Enyaq! and usually I am not a fan of neon colours but this looks truly cool 👍👍

  • @jamesrose1191
    @jamesrose1191 2 роки тому +4

    I like how you use indicators even though you are talking and driving. I can hear the indicator click. Good job.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +5

      Ninja skills in action.

    • @NinetyTres
      @NinetyTres 2 роки тому

      @@bjornnyland ABC
      Always Be Clicking

  • @SKBreakDaRules
    @SKBreakDaRules 2 роки тому +3

    Current Kempower charging poles (satellites, as they call them) are rated for 300A continuous, and can only provide 500A for 10 minutes. As far as I read, higher power ones, up to 400kW are said to start deliveries in Q3 2022.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +6

      Kempower already has liquid cooled cables that can provide 500 A continous current. The 300 A you talked about is the non-liquid cooled cables. But even 500 A for 10 minutes is enough for most EVs today.

    • @SKBreakDaRules
      @SKBreakDaRules 2 роки тому

      @@bjornnyland Thanks for the info. I looked at the datasheets that are in the Kempower download centre and I did not find the higher specs.
      Also, having watched some of your recent Mercedes and BMW charging tests, the current was above 300A for 15-20 minutes on those.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +4

      I think the 500 A limit is not absolute. Look at this charging session:
      ua-cam.com/video/KVg9sbFMoEw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Bj%C3%B8rnNyland
      The i4 takes 500 A only for 2 minutes. That's way below the 10 minute limit. And after 10 minutes of charging, the current dips below 300 A. What I'm saying is that the 500 A peak limit and 300 A continous limit is usually not a problem with today's cars. And by the time it is a problem, we will have 500 A continous limit.

  • @seb.4210
    @seb.4210 2 роки тому +9

    Hey TB
    i appreciate your work/Videos! is it possible to add for some cars “caravan tests”
    like, consumption, range &&? greetings from zurich

    • @onlineo2263
      @onlineo2263 2 роки тому

      I will answer this. Caravan range is just don't tow long distances with any EV. It depends on how tall and wide the caravan is as well as how aero it is and to a small degree the weight... But think of small caravan range reduced by 40% on all cars when going 100kmh, and large caravans range reduced by 60% at the same speed. Obviously if your EV is brick shaped and massive with a massive battery then it may do long distances better as the caraven would be proportionally smaller behind the car.

  • @OenkePoenke
    @OenkePoenke 2 роки тому +3

    Alpitronic have introduced 400 kW Hyperchargers already, will come to market still this year. 8 times 50 kW modules, IIRC.

  • @itsbilln2178
    @itsbilln2178 2 роки тому +7

    It was the caravan blocking the truck because Ionity / Circle K did not bother to design EV chargers which can be used properly when towing.

    • @ARPost-kn2jl
      @ARPost-kn2jl 2 роки тому +1

      You knew before buying the auwdi

  • @Leon575
    @Leon575 2 роки тому +1

    6:04 The beautiful Porsche Cayenne is leaving the fuel pump area after a quick refuel and a toilet visit.

  • @dalex6641
    @dalex6641 2 роки тому +4

    Those of us who have to stop at French or Italian Superchargers with 6 or 8 V2 stalls so jealous of the idea of 20 V3 stalls.

  • @fenceman53
    @fenceman53 2 роки тому +4

    Fossil drivers hate to wait in a queue but once they get there they linger buying snacks checking phone whatever . 15 min

    • @lezzeti
      @lezzeti 2 роки тому

      Yes. I've heard that argument many, many times. but then the same people don't mind spending 15 - 30 min enjoying hot dogs, snacks etc during long trips. Weird..

  • @KekszNET
    @KekszNET 2 роки тому

    In Hungary there is one SuC at the highway M1 (Gyorujbarat) which is sometimes completely blocked by Benzinstau as the ICE cars stands until back to the highway exit and sometimes they just block the way out from the chargers in the queue.

  • @jonathanclark9063
    @jonathanclark9063 2 роки тому +2

    Keep up the good work, bjorn

  • @HotHatchTV
    @HotHatchTV 2 роки тому +1

    That's one of the reasons why I would still buy a Tesla, I also travel on busy Saturday's during summer, never had to wait. Plenty of supercharger stalls.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +3

      Did you not watch the video? I could have avoided 1 hour ladestau if I used Tesla superchargers.

    • @HotHatchTV
      @HotHatchTV 2 роки тому +1

      @@bjornnyland Take it easy, no need to react so hard! Yes, I did watch the whole video, but even then if you would have used them, you could not do it everywhere, so you still had "ladestau". You say it yourself, the tritium chargers have lots of problems, which doesn't help either of ladestau.

  • @ojeskog
    @ojeskog 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome to Scandiland in summer... Ladestau! Also the reason why I won't move back there. Fed up of everyone doing the same thing at the same time. Because you are basically forced to take all but one week of leave in the summer...

    • @BjornJorgensen
      @BjornJorgensen 2 роки тому +1

      We are expected to take three weeks of holiday, out of 5 or 6 weeks, but rarely forced to. I never had trouble moving my vacation.

    • @ojeskog
      @ojeskog 2 роки тому

      @@BjornJorgensen I hear what you say but social protocol expects you to take most of your time off in the summer and several employers even shut the business for the summer so you don't even have the option to work should you want to. I used to work for one of those. Scandiland is very different to most of the other world.

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge 2 роки тому +2

    You should definitely deduct waiting time. The point is to test the car not the network.

  • @LJLion
    @LJLion 2 роки тому +4

    Here is my 2 cents : since the Supercharger is more reliable compared to other networks; wouldn't it be more practical to dedicate the 1000 km challenge to the supercharger exclusively?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +3

      No. Because some superchargers don't give max speed to all cars. And superchargers are 400 V. Some sites also has v2 which is max 150 kW.

    • @maximamustermann3759
      @maximamustermann3759 2 роки тому +4

      @@bjornnyland Maybe a video of Enyaq charging video 5% to 90%, Tesla V2 vs. Ionity? Horse race against itself. 😉
      And/or simulate it by "chopping" of the charging curve at 150 kW. 🤔

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ 2 роки тому +1

    In the UK at least this car is called ŠKODA ENYAQ Coupé iV vRS , the vRS are the performance models, from £53735. I love the colour also 💚

  • @IanMcc1000
    @IanMcc1000 2 роки тому +2

    Who got goosebumps when the Etron reversed with the caravan?

  •  2 роки тому +2

    Nice etron with a caravan! Was looking for EVs with caravans this summer but I did not find anyone. Even in a 1000+ lot campsite.

    • @minus2837
      @minus2837 2 роки тому +2

      My friend had a small caravan which he intended to tow with an etron. The total range was less than 200km. Since it's not practical to charge from 0-100%, the practical range was 150km. At highway/motorway speeds, that's not very practical - charging for 20-30 mins+ every 1-2 hours + queuing to find a charging spot with place for a caravan. However, if you need to switch back to an ICE car to tow a caravan, maybe it's a good time to review whether it's really sustainable to tow a house on wheels around for thousands of kilometres in 2022 anyway, or just use airbnbs!

    •  2 роки тому

      @@minus2837 yep, all this was in my mind already back in 2016 when I choose to buy my current car. I was very pessimistic about the future of caravan towing. It does.maybe look slightly better now, but long journeys will probably never be as popular as they have been, think 2000-3000km one way such as from Sweden to the Mediterranean.

    • @minus2837
      @minus2837 2 роки тому +1

      @ Norway seems to still be packed full of caravans and camper vans this year. We're all using EVs and they think it's fine to drive thousands of km from the continent and drive the length of Norway with diesel engines, even at 27 NOK per litre, so it still seems as popular as ever.

  • @ichigo19870
    @ichigo19870 2 роки тому +1

    Holiday season. Probably a lot of German electric cars on the road^^

  • @egil-andrenessmortensen3037
    @egil-andrenessmortensen3037 2 роки тому

    If you can avoid the ladestau or not is irrelevant, the point is that the results needs to be comparable

  • @MiladTal
    @MiladTal 2 роки тому

    If you had to choose, Enyaq Coupé RS or EV6? (Disregard the waiting time)

  • @jeanmiegoiste
    @jeanmiegoiste 2 роки тому

    RWD Ev6 should have a try too, just because it is really really efficient during summer.

  • @costinelbadescu2727
    @costinelbadescu2727 2 роки тому

    Hi Bjorn. Wanted to ask how is possible to charge with 175kW since the specs of this car says that can charge at max 125kW? Thank you for you answer.

  • @fecorekasi
    @fecorekasi 2 роки тому +1

    Come to Hungary, it was 40°C here :) instant overheat

  • @theagentsmith
    @theagentsmith 2 роки тому +4

    Thanks to Bjorn now I know what a ladestau is 😄

    • @markelkins8432
      @markelkins8432 2 роки тому

      Yup - had to translate it to be sure (Charging Station). He's trying to teach all of us Swedish.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +7

      "Stau" is German. I have used the term "Ladestau" already one year ago.
      ua-cam.com/video/EKlDjb6F4Cw/v-deo.html
      The word "ladestau" was not invented by me. If you google it you will find out that some Germans have used that word even before me.

    • @McTrex123
      @McTrex123 2 роки тому +1

      @@markelkins8432 Stau is German for traffic jam. Ladestau = traffic jam at the charger.

    • @markelkins8432
      @markelkins8432 2 роки тому

      @@McTrex123 Opps - I assumed Swedish was the original language. Google Translate says "Charging station". Sure enough - changing to German - one gets "charging jam". Swedish sense of humour perhaps?

  • @850bimmer
    @850bimmer 2 роки тому

    In my contract I got preliminary delivery week 11 next year, so that is 9 months delivery, not 18. But it may be earlier, as I felt that delivery was a bit "cover our ass" statement, might get it this year, fingers crossed, production starts week 35, first week of September, who knows how many coupes are ordered.
    So 22.7Kw/100km means approx. 340km range on the motorway then? doing 100-120kph?
    I guess the WLTP of 500km is maybe possible at 80-90kph to get a consumption around 15.5Kw/100km.

  • @fergus247
    @fergus247 Рік тому

    When are the charging stations going to put up giant fans that you park on top of

  • @piscario75
    @piscario75 2 роки тому

    Not the car for Australia then here in Perth where summer temps averaged 33C and we had 14 days over 40C

  • @histrionicman
    @histrionicman 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting color.

  • @roybm3124
    @roybm3124 2 роки тому +1

    Keep the deductions, would be very hard to compare the cars otherwise.

  • @ntmoucn
    @ntmoucn 2 роки тому

    I think it‘s quite easy really: Test the car? Deduct. Test the charging networks in summer? Count every minute.

  • @DeilGrist
    @DeilGrist 2 роки тому

    Does it run the AC to cool battery when you plug in hot to lvl 1 or lvl 2 charger?

  • @jean-marcvienne
    @jean-marcvienne 2 роки тому +1

    Fan of this car

  • @timberthewolf733
    @timberthewolf733 2 роки тому +1

    What does "ladestau" mean in english?
    Edit: For the price the car better not overheat/AC should work if I am at a charger.

    • @McTrex123
      @McTrex123 2 роки тому +1

      Stau is German for traffic jam. Ladestau = traffic jam at the charger.

  • @ท่องเที่ยวทั่วโลก-ฑ2ฑ

    Björn time to test Mercedes EQXX on 1000 Challenge. Need to see the right Numbers

    • @superset5
      @superset5 2 роки тому +6

      time for you to realize it's not a production car.

    • @bq5577x
      @bq5577x 2 роки тому +1

      @@superset5 that's true but should be fun, I heard about 80Wh/km... And they talked about also travelling at 140kmh, so I'm curious

  • @johnnys5419
    @johnnys5419 2 роки тому

    What do you do if it rains a lot? You can’t open all doors when it’s to hot inside.

  • @zaferroni
    @zaferroni 2 роки тому +1

    Lime nice.

  • @tabysetterstrom6061
    @tabysetterstrom6061 2 роки тому

    Björn; Can we expect the Audi E-tron 50/55 to have the same battery design flaw as these?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +1

      I don't know unless I investigate deeper.

    • @tabysetterstrom6061
      @tabysetterstrom6061 2 роки тому

      Fully understand! Just asked in the event you would had seen the same issue on those. Do I understand Tesla does not have the same issue? Thank you for your great efforts! Impressive work.

  • @blairjayson
    @blairjayson 2 роки тому +6

    Since he's traveling the same route, same speeds and deducting time for stau, the only difference between each car is the total time spent charging. So IMO he should always report the total time charging during his 1000 km challenges. He can deduct "queue" time for charging since that will eventually be reduced as more charging capacity is added.

    • @Cornelius87
      @Cornelius87 2 роки тому

      He does though, he only deducts if there's a charger connection error.

    • @AndyBrandt
      @AndyBrandt 2 роки тому

      Also, you can encounter queue to charger in any car and the point is to compare cars.

    • @PaulCanters
      @PaulCanters 2 роки тому

      Every car has different consumption , so not only the charging time is different 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @rickeybarnes6471
    @rickeybarnes6471 2 роки тому +1

    Not bad looking, it looks like a model y.

  • @B1605
    @B1605 2 роки тому

    Isn't deducting time because of traffic working for car's favour? If you drive slower, then later on you have shorter charging session or you can skip charger.
    This way the same car could have different result of 1000km challenge when it goes with lower speed with time deductions then going full speed.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому

      Quick math: The road works stretch was 10 km long. Lower speed means approx 15 Wh/km lower consumption. That means 10 km * 15 Wh/km = 150 Wh lower consumption. The time it takes to charge back 150 Wh is:
      150 Wh / 175000 W * 3600 s/h = 3 seconds
      Just go ahead and add 3 seconds to the total time then...

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +2

      Ah, maybe you meant for the whole trip? In that case, if we save 5 Wh/km for 1000 km, that's still just 5 kWh which takes 1 minute and 40 seconds to charge back...

    • @krischi8324
      @krischi8324 2 роки тому +2

      @@bjornnyland I think the question was very valid and the answer is even more valid! Thanks for the visualization. Not everyone is an expert like you ;)

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +4

      Agreed. And that's why I educate people here in this channel.

  • @cos_marc
    @cos_marc 11 місяців тому

    How are the norwegians still holding to EVs if you need 1h just to wait to charge? I'm trying to understand how the future would look like in Europe :)

  • @mjbln89
    @mjbln89 2 роки тому +1

    Ladestau and Benzinstau, you get the german passport instand.

  • @kruemelfelix
    @kruemelfelix 2 роки тому

    You should simply charge at Superchargers wherever possible to circumvent Ladestau. You also should have done this today and also always try to tell that the guys in the queue, most don't know this, it needs to be shared. Tesla does an awful job at marketing to non-Tesla people, you can do that if you have time when you wait while charging. I at least would do that.

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому

      Yes, I already mentioned this in part 1.

  • @maximamustermann3759
    @maximamustermann3759 2 роки тому

    7:20 Tesla for the win! All Ladestaus should NOT be deducted, as this is a manufacturers "feature".

  • @MisterNatel
    @MisterNatel 2 роки тому

    Excellent vidéo… isn’t 22kwh too much?… I see a video test with a Megane etech in highway and the vehicule used 18kwh…

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +1

      Did they drive at 130+ km/h? Most likely not.

    • @MisterNatel
      @MisterNatel 2 роки тому

      @@bjornnyland 😅😅 between 110-115..

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. If I drove 110-115 km/h on the speedometer (105-110 km/h GPS speed), I would average also 180 Wh/km on this Enyaq.

    • @MisterNatel
      @MisterNatel 2 роки тому

      @@bjornnyland the journey planner is accurate in relation to the arrival percentage? Does the vehicle arrive with the percentage indicated by the vehicle at the time of planning?

  • @mrjingpk4988
    @mrjingpk4988 2 роки тому +1

    "some horse shit color" - lmaooooo

  • @kolrobi
    @kolrobi 2 роки тому

    Why didn't you just roll down the windows instead?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому

      Not possible as explained in the video.

  • @Kalvarija
    @Kalvarija 2 роки тому

    Why do you deduct from final result time for waiting for charger? As I remember point of this challenge was to compare ICE with electric car. How fast can you travel… So you should include waiting time to get to the charger as this is new reality and it will be more and more waiting time to charge as there is going to be more electric cars on the road…

    • @olamarvin
      @olamarvin 2 роки тому +1

      But then the same car performs better in winter than in summer, which doesn't make sense. There's lots of traffic in the summer for everyone.

  • @hadtopicausername
    @hadtopicausername 2 роки тому +1

    The entire charging experience needs to become more streamlined. It shouldn't be necessary to have an expert like you around to help people out. Plug and charge, how hard can that be to accomplish today?

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому

      Tesla is quite simple.

    • @hadtopicausername
      @hadtopicausername 2 роки тому

      That doesn't really solve the issue. They all need to become quite simple.

  • @michaelprusek
    @michaelprusek 2 роки тому +1

    It's'rapeadgateing ' because You leave doors open. A/C is power drainer.

  • @bjorndijkstra5863
    @bjorndijkstra5863 2 роки тому +1

    Slow Norwegians: 5 minutes. Muwahahaha!

  • @gertsiekmans9246
    @gertsiekmans9246 2 роки тому

    Could it be that Tesla limits the "foreign" cars to ensure a Tesla has always a spot to charge?

  • @citedcanvas85
    @citedcanvas85 2 роки тому +1

    Does Annie know u have her car lol. Annie r u ok, r u ok Annie. 😉

  • @okazakijap
    @okazakijap 2 роки тому

    Ladestau becoming problem...

    • @bjornnyland
      @bjornnyland  2 роки тому +1

      Just use Tesla supercharger network (as already mentioned in the video).

  • @tobias5360
    @tobias5360 2 роки тому +1

    Why do you always have to measure exactly 1000 km? If you start at same point every time then you should measure to exact same point also. Then you don’t have to correct for the cars measurement, also when cars don’t need an extra charging stop they should benefit from that, in real life people never go exactly 1000 km, they go from point A to B.

  • @madrock1444
    @madrock1444 2 роки тому

    My Skoda Octavia diesel never fejl to charge and it drives cheaper then an EV :) Charging time = 1 min.

  • @OleksiyYergiyev
    @OleksiyYergiyev 2 роки тому

    Traffic and waiting in lines should be deducted, sure. One never sees them in real life 🤣

  • @ARPost-kn2jl
    @ARPost-kn2jl 2 роки тому +1

    Noooo, non Tesla drivers. Please do NOT use the Tesla Supercharger Network. Remember why you didn't buy a Tesla! You hate Tesla, keep your head up and que up in the ladestau. Thank you! Kind regards from a early adopter Tesla Fanboy.

    • @ARPost-kn2jl
      @ARPost-kn2jl 2 роки тому

      ​@@starvictory7079 Even better for me :) And Tesla drivers earned the option of choice.