Ange Postecoglou SCATHING in Spurs assessment: 'The foundations are fairly FRAGILE'
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- 'The last 48 hours has revealed to me the foundations are fairly fragile... Outside, inside, everywhere' 😳
Ange Postecoglou did not miss in his assessment of Tottenham following their loss to Manchester City.
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It’s amazing how every manager that experiences working in Tottenham says the same thing. Terrible club mentality, accepting failure, looking at rivals rather than their own situation. Ange has a lot of work to do to win trophies at that club.
It's not a football club anymore it's a cash cow thanks to Daniel Levy and ENIC who own the club
Most Tottenham supporters aren't spurs fans, they're arsenal haters.
Yeah...feel sorry for that guy. I think he's the best coach Tottenham had since Pochettino, the strange Guy who reached CL final and title competing with them.
Hope he gets another club in PL. Maybe Leicester, maybe one day Aston Villa or Newcastle. He has more chances to take these clubs far than with Tottenham
Hope he left totnum soon, tbh he has great tactical play and ambition to be the best but i cant see any of that from totnum
The club doesn't do this its the fan based. He is refering to the fans who wanted the team to lose and cheered when they did
If you want a manager who buys into the ancient rivalry with Arsenal and would find losing a game acceptable then Ange is not your man. He is a true sportsman.
He got it wrong though. It was imperative to lose to city, to stop the hell worlds being opened
@@TheJohnCooperShow Then that's a losing MENTALITY he is a winner and he thinks like one
@@TheJohnCooperShow Then you have a losing mentality. Ange is an Aussie he wants to win at everything
Well said
He's lost 4 league games in a row and hasn't beat any of the big boys apart from a dodgy var win v liverpool. Maybe he's the problem and not the fans
Are his comments really that confusing. This punditry is woeful.
His comments are a meaningless word salad. He often talks complete rubbish in press conferences to cover the fact that he isn’t actually very good
Hahahahaha exactly what I thought, Michael Owen is ridiculous, I hope he's stopped scratching his head
@@marcussullens2573finish above Chelsea Newcastle and Man U and lost kane in his first season
They don't want to listen to his opinion.
They want to force a quote that they can use for the already written article.
@@marcussullens2573you’ve managed to make a bigger salad yourself here
Ange was referring to the last 48 hours! The fans wanting the lose the game! He is upset with the mentality of the club and the fans! Who can blame him! What fan wants their team to lose. The fans celebrated when city scored, what message does that send to the players and coaches.
Of course we wanted to lose. Thought of Arsenal winning league is just unthinkable. And it can’t be allowed to happen.
@@TheJohnCooperShow It's actually embarrassing to hear that you hate Arsenal more than you love your own club.
@@TheJohnCooperShow we move on mate...
He is a winner he can't stand losing that's the Aussie in him never think of losing
@@raetekusu1 It's not embarrassing at all, don't put labels on something you clearly do not understand.
Anyone that’s upset by Ange being angry needs to think to themselves.
Do I want a manager that cares so much that losing a match makes him very upset.
Or do I want a manager that is happy with mediocrity and laughs at poor results.
I choose the guy that actually wants to change the club. That’s the guy you back.
It’s simple - there was something INTERNALLY that suggested that winning was not a goal or requirement. That crack in a Winners Mentality would be seen by Ange as completely unacceptable.
Yep…. This is bang on ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Maybe that is in the Spurs DNA
You couldn't be more wrong
He was told by the hierarchy that they didn't care about the style of football, they just want Champions league football for increases status and revenue.
Now I know that is fact of what was said. Ange will move on and it will be Spurs loss !!
Let's be honest and every spurs fans knows that while Danny boy is stearing the ship there will be no success on the pitch. End of story!!
@@zeus3086do you know what DNA is?
I am amazed sometimes at Owen. How could a person be so daft? 😅
“Whichever team scores more goals usually wins” - Michael Owen
“That’s a head scratcher that one” it’s not rocket science mate 😂😂
He should've asked Owen a question as if Ange was a horse trainer and whether the horses and stable is good enough 🧐
He got a fit daughter though😂
A mate of mine works for Premier League, when he was a pundit for BT Sports and they were travelling abroad, Owen came up to him on the plane and wanted to share a taxi with my mate when they got there cos he didn’t know how to get to the hotel or book a taxi. Then on the way home he wanted my mate to help him book his cases into the airport as he didn’t know how to do it. He is the most clueless person you’ve ever met because he spent his entire formativeyears having every single thing done for him by PAs nd the football clubs he played for. Now he’s out in the wild he hasn’t a clue. BT used to book him into economy class too on flights lol.
He told them all in the pre match conference that he's seen zero trophies in the ground and zero pics on the walls of winning, so it's not really a rivalry - only for them to play 24 hours later and witness his own fans cheering goals against them. he's only just realising that they're not even a football club
I believe he was talking about the culture at and around the club. So many spurs fans were happy to give up a push to get into the champions league just because of their rivalry with Arsenal. So many fans wanted to see their own team lose, and i guess that what he has misread, he must have believed that it was just a silly vocal minority, and not half of the fan base. Coming from a neutral here.
Ange did not grow up as a Spurs fan. He’s welcome to believe this is a winners mentality. Spurs fans have meanwhile watched their team qualify multiple times for 4th while failing to win trophies. So why on earth would Spurs fans trade another meaningless 4th place for Arsenal to win the title? He needs to focus on ensuring his team don’t phone it in playing sh*t against the likes of Fulham/Brighton/Chelsea/Newcastle/Liverpool/Arsenal and put them in this position next season. Maybe do better in the cups too (2 first round exits this season).
@gl8029 Spurs fans have seen Arsenal win many league titles so who cares about another one. Tin pot fan and tin pot club
@@Jahanoudis Arsenal haven’t won a league title in 25 years. What are you talking about
@@LGEightZeroArsenal won 13 league title and was part of alot of title races. The last title was about 20 years ago and one of the issue in the last 20 years was Arsenal building a stadium and selling there best player's. City baught almost half of one of Arsenal team.
@@LGEightZero when did spurs win the league or chalenge for the league
Get some new guests. Your pundits have no clue what he's on about when it's so obvious.
What's he talking about? Can you please elaborate
@@lilnutty6821 the mentality of our fans
@@Jakub-tm4tl thanks
Ange is not for Spurs. He deserves some winning mentality Big Club not some tinpots club who celebrates a loss.
Would you class Liverpool as a big club with a winning mentality?
You sound so bitter.
@@hindlewalker9330 who?
@@searchterminatorseed2301at least they win a trophy once in a while. 6 UCLs speak for themselves
And your clubs best season is not even better than bayerns worst 😂😂😂
For Ange to react like that, something must have gone on behind the scenes. I'm willing to bet some of the rhetoric from the fans filtered down to the players, staff and possibly upstairs, and the narrative around the club in the last 48 hrs turned into "win against city is a more sackable offence than 1 win in 6 games".
Basically Ange has discovered the actual tinpot culture inside the club.
He means ;
The foundation: Poor structure in the hierarchy in lack winning mentality and ability to get in world class players
Inside:Most of their PLAYERS just not good enough in competing
Outside:The FANS mentality of wanting to throw away this game that have a potential to qualify for UCL, in order to PREVENT their rivals from winning the title
Even with that victory, Aston will qualify just with a one more point problably
ironic coming from him
manager who has been letting us down for the past month
keep losing against mid table and low table side
Not even prevent the rivals from winning. Postpone. It probably won't be this year, but that City verdict is coming this summer. They just kicked the can down the road one more year, and they're acting like they've done something that will be remembered forever when the truth is, it'll probably be forgotten about in two years tops.
@@1607Adi_Manz looks like you were one of the spineless in the box.
@@1607Adi_ManzYour club has said this to many world class managers, yet nothing changes. It's not the managers - it's your club culture.
As a spurs fan, this is painful to hear. What is going on at my club!
Ange wanted to defeat man city and stop them from winning the title, fans and some of the internals obviously didn't want to beat city because it would allow arsenal to win the league... which isn't the right mindset to have
@@davidjorquera4192chasing the chances to achieve ch.league ?
Conte was and IS a proven champion of the beautiful game, when he left and had that historic interview the man laid out the problems with the club.
Until this is sorted and banished out the same repetitive thing will happen when he leaves...Ang is a good guy who has the best interest at his heart...
COYG
Sounds like he got the classic Levy "no money to spend"
Levi telling Ange to throw the game
I very much doubt that. CL brings in a lot of money and prestige more than Europa.
They were unlikely to make champions league anyways. Competing in and winning the Europa League will bring in my revenue @@Lioness_UTV
Why would he do that and if he knew Ange well he would not even think it
Levi Roots?
nahh, he just expected more home support but didnt get it
embarrassing fanbase don’t deserve him
I agree I'm a newcastle fan but also a aussie and proud of what ange has done ❤
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Your comment is an opinion that many may agree with, however, I don't. Unless you live and breathe either Tottenham or Arsenal, you will not comprehend what happened last night.
@@ianreid5266 No if you want Spurs to be a winner you should not care about anybody else other than Spurs winning otherwise you have Spurs where you have them now nowhere near the top like Ange want's them to be
@ianreid5266 fair enough I understand but as a newcastle fan I still want to win even if it meant Sunderland winning the title hypothetically.Ange just wants to make spurs a winning team like how much Australians approach there sport
Owen with top class punditry as always.
Can’t believe these pundits don’t get it. Spurs fans don’t care about the Champions League they just wanna lose to annoy Arsenal that is not a winning mentality that’s why Conti left and that’s why Ange will leave
That sounds like the tone of a manager who believes the ambition of the club doesn’t match his. He should walk out before it gets bad.
He should go to Bayern or Barca
Should have waited for liverpool, his a fan of them
its not a sherlock holmes mystery its obvious what hes talking about
Pretty obvious you clowns , spurs fans cheering city to win , Ange bound to be annoyed
I don’t know what is confusing Mr. Owen, Ange indirectly suggested that there was clearly some indirect pressure from inside the club to throw out the match
Not looking good. Ange likely isn't going to be around much longer.
Good he's a crap manger. He's all soundbites and "mate" but has just lost 4 games in a row now he's trying to blame the fans. Must be a shock coming from a tin pot league in Scotland.
Ange is pissed and I don't blame him. Spurs as a Club have a depressing mentality and I don't think it can be coached. The fact that they are celebrating losing their chance to play CL because it means Arsenal who keep getting close to win the EPL would lose says a lot. It is cursed.
Its the Arsenal thing. What was he told by the board ? What is important to the fans ? Winning a match or stopping Arsenal being champions ? There is something that has just clicked with him whether it be players or board. The penny has dropped with him on a particular topic. he is having a rethink ? Will he stay ? Something really big has happened. Interesting week coming up.
They certainly didn't get the backing from their fans , they were disgraceful , wanting your own team to lose.
I have been following Ange for over 20 years now and enjoy the journey with him as he hops from Club to Club bringing success wherever he goes. Strictly speaking Ange would have preferred to start in the Premier League at a lesser Club than Spurs to give him more time and experience to acclimatise at this level. When the Offer came from Spurs he couldn't pass it up so he entered in at the deep end from the word GO .
I think under the circumstances he has held up really well in his 1st year. However under Ange,s own standard he has
under achieved this year. Ange is a Fighter and a Spartan. Spartans only know Victory or Death. It's a shame Kane
didn't stay at Spurs, he may have made a big difference to the outcome this year. Look at the Fiasco he ended up in at Bayern this year. They have grossly under performed after hastily sacking Oliver Khan who was still acclimatising
in his new position there.
Regardless of what has transpired so far Ange,s second year at any new club is his BIG ONE ! You can be sure he will
pull out all stops imaginable at Spurs with an Iron Will. Winning the Title will be his goal. Anything less than that will be
unacceptable. It's going to be an exciting year for Spurs next season.Ange will be relentless to achieve for Spurs.
That’s an insult to any coach if you want our team to loose
Beacuse no coach wants to loose… but happy about assssnilll
It's "lose", when your pants fall down, they're "loose".
@@psbarrow I think they teach 'loose' as lose in schools these days. I'm almost shocked when I see the correct spelling these days
If I was a teacher I'd have the spelling of the word lose on the board every day. If they misspelt it they'd get thrown out of the nearest window.
@@purehyperbole5727 Teach them a bit of French etymology too as you "defenestrate" them.
@@purehyperbole5727 same, when a generation cant spell a single syllable 4 letter word in their native language what does it say about education system. I'm dyslexic and struggled a lot in English class and I find it insulting to see the level of English taught in schools in seemingly every English speaking country.
Now his name is ANGER POSTECOGLOU.
Michael Owen so stupid he’s talking about the fans mentality and the players wanting to lose rather than Arsenal winning the league
Guess who's Liverpool's next manager?
Ange doesn't know the culture of the club indeed! He doesn't know the fans! 😭
There's a lot of people on social media saying he doesn't get the rivalry with Arsenal. He's been in his professional career for 30 years. He gets rivalry, but he doesn't get it escalating to the point the so called fans would cheer against their own team and object to them winning. That's not a winning mentality and that's not what gets the team to a winning position. It goes against his philosopy and what he stands for and now he realises the club's values are not entirely in alignment with his. However, know ing Ange, he probably won't give in to this kind of mediocrity and will take on the challenge to change things while he's at the club. But some of these so called fans, who are probably fully grown adults need to grow up and stop the stupidity going on about the ancient rivalry with Arsenal, then go find a manager that cares and see how well they fair. We just want a manager who can produce a team that can play good football, plain simple. You can have all the bragging rights and beat Arsenal, and lose against all the other teams, but that's not a winning team. That's not the team I want, that's not what represents the big club that the players, the manager or the staff want to be a part of. And I say this as a fan and want nothing more but the club to succeed and win against the teams at the top flight of the league.
Ange found a way to change the narrative about him from "he's been found out" to "Tottenham doesn't deserve him"
What has he been intentionally hiding?
He’s talking about the culture at the club you muppets
Small team mentality , fans would rather lose than gain a champions league spot
Ange need more pace in the midfield (by foot and mind)
I'd love to see Michael Owen play Cluedo.
Michael Owen is the Sherlock Holmes of pundits isn't he? "There is definitely something affecting him and annoying him at the moment". Well done Mikey. You're really earning your paycheck with that powerful insight.
Yes, these commentators are clueless. Ange attempts to win at all costs. He is not for ‘laying down’ to stop Arsenal wining the title. The concept of ‘tanking’ is abhorrent to Ange. The man may just have realised that the poor culture runs deeper at Spurs than he thought. If I was Ange I would be considering my options. I don’t want him to leave Spurs HOWEVER if Liverpool make an approach then you would have to consider it.
Michael Owen’s comments are totally tone deaf!!!! What planet are they on??? Spurs fans accept losing????
The chairman and the fans wanted there own team to loose not to hand arsenal the league is what he is referring too
Woeful punditry this, how can you not decipher what he meant? Spurs fans and staff wanted them to lose and didn’t show ambition to win the game
Spurs have never been thirsty to be champions , to be the best. Newcastle are the only other really big club that haven’t won the title for decades and decades , but Newcastle fans crave that kind of success. Spurs fans seem content to be eternal “ also rans “. They have got the club they deserve. It’s pretty pathetic actually.
They are spuds. Get soft when under boiling pressure and crumble.
Just because Spurs lost their last 5 games in 6, they are not unsuccessful. I think Ange is expecting way more than what players can give to be honest. These teams have better players and they have been playing really well lately, they are just in good form at the moment (Arsenal, City, Newcastle, Liverpool, and Chelsea). Someone has to remind him, this is his first year at the club and team is established only 9 months ago. Finishing 5th in the toughest league in the world in your first season is good achievement. At least for Spurs level. I’m sorry but they are not Arsenal, nor City.
"The 'Spurs fans, they're all delighted" They wanted to f**king lose this match....what a bunch of f**kers. I feel for Ange....what a mentality to have to try and change.
Poor Ange ,get out of there mate
He is referring to the fans who are the foundation of every club
If anyone is fragile mentally then it is you Ange, look at how you snàp at every journalist question
And just like that the club lost AP...
Spurs have shown the world what was happening behind closed doors for years. Jose, Conte tried telling everybody but no one wanted to listen. Now the fans have let the cat out of the bag.
I am confident that he will be leaving soon
Owen as insightful as always 😅
Ange chosing this game, of all games, to be angry about after all the bad performances we've had since christmas AND having the hump with Spurs fans who do not want Arsenal to win the league, has revealed alot to me about Ange aswell...
Premier league has the dumbest mainstream football pundits in all of Europes top leagues 😭…how is that a “head scratch” when the it is just obvious that it’s the culture/mindset of both the fans and players 🚮💀
It's embarrassing . last night Ange was clearly having a dispute with some fans over them not encouraging our players. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. We still had a decent chance of C.L. football next season. Which is needed to attract top players. It's toxic fans with toxic feeble minded followers like the self styled Tottenham Rabbi, Lee Wilder . Facebook. who the club only allowed back in recently , Some who encourages his followers to do toxic stuff, like cheering on city. More hateful over London rivals than Loving Spurs.
As a spurs fan, I agree 100% with Ange. Living in Arsenals shadow if all we care about is them, and not winning. Will never win a trophy if that is our attitude.
Conti said the same when leaving, its not good. They say a fish rots from the head but losing 5 from 6 is not good either. They need a top striker to replace kane no target man. Defensively the high line is easy pickings for any top opposing coach
The fans were more interested in shafting Arsenal than trying to keep their Champions League hopes alive. This is why Tottenham will never be considered a major club. It's a small club mentality. More focused on what their rival is doing than on ensuring their own success.
1 + 1 = 2
Owen, "thats a head scratcher that one"
Fan mentality is if a trophy is not going to come, the next best thing is that your nearest rivals fall…he’s been part of the old firm in Glasgow so I’m surprised he’s surprised by that but maybe it’s because at Celtic he was never without a trophy or the most amount of them hence never saw it from the Rangers perspective…I’m just guessing but that’s what it appears. He’s a great coach so I wish him all the best
The old firm is all about winning.
Whoever comes out on top in the old firm derbies in a season normally wins the league.
Maybe if he had stopped playing so kamikaze all the time, and stopped the zonal marking at set pieces sooner rather than after conceding 9 goals, we wouldn’t have been in a position where if we win tonight we gift our greatest rivals the title.
The reality is now, few of the players will also be thinking this and want to get out of this hell hole of a club. No winning mentality whatsoever
Shows the mentality of the club
Let's be honest even if Spurs tried they weren't going to win or get a draw against Man City. They haven't been playing good.
They almost did get a draw. If Son scored the 1 on 1 with the keeper it was going to be 1-1 with 10 minutes to play.
@@tristanedwards7302 and I almost went to the moon when i was 12 years old....gotta take your chances, Son has been awful since coming back from Asian cup same with Salah from AFCON.
Confusing guys playing dumb or are they actually that thick. It's the players and fans not wanting to win to stop a rival winning
As a tottenham fan, this is what i have seen:
No leadership, Son is very soft, softer than harry kane,
No proper striker who can make a dribble and take a shot
team plays well only if everyhting goes okay, in difficult moments, they never show grit
lack of commitment and communication on pitch.
Son, Hojbjerg, emerson, bentacur needs to go.
Johnson is never a starter
need players like Chiesa, Vlahovic who wants to score goals,
someone like Lautaro, Barella, Griezmann with a vision
Young talents like olise, Eze, Raphinha who are creative.
Improve Set piece defending, get some good wingers and striker
Thats all.
Should have been smart, played reserves and kept the job. I think he should go now. He doesnt understand that 90%of Tottenham fans live in London and cannot have Arrsenal celebrate in their faces. That defeat prevented bloodshed on the streets of London.
People take your heads out of your behinds!!!
Come on he was the only person in that stadium that wanted Tottenham to win .... its obvious
F***king tell them
Are you blind. He's talking about the fans cheering against their own team.
At least spurs got a good manager, but the fan base is just meme
What’s woeful is spurs fans wearing light blue tops yesterday
Wrighty your short sighted. I honestly beileive that if that was Arteta in the same situation, he would have reacted the same both towards the players and fans. They had a chance of champions league football only to think it was more of an achievement to stop Arsenal winning the league. That is not a winners mentality.
What Ange is saying is the club won’t give him a huge transfer budget next season and the deadwood will remain at the club next season
conte felt the same and were fuming and left therefore.
sacking jm b4 a final alrdy made thing clearer
this is how he works
What is so hard to understand by these pundits? Ange wants Tottenham to grow as a team, to be a real title contender. Not mind whatever Arsenal does.
"If you get two yellow cards in one game, you'll get a red card."
- Michael Owen
Don't worry yourself about trying to work out what he meant Micheal, you'll only confuse yourself even more.
Did the pundits not watch the match or any social media in the last 48 hours?
Shakespeare would be proud
It's okay Spurs are not the only club who do this. I heard some Aston Villa fans say that they were glad they lost to Man City in the last game of 2021/22, cos they didn't want Liverpool to win the title. Apart from City, none of the other clubs have a winning mentality. They're all happy to see City stop their enemies from winning the league. City on the other hand have a huge winning mentality. They're hell bent on winning many more premier league titles, so they can overtake Man U asap. So it's now a rubbish league... only City wanting to win and all other 19 teams are happy to do nothing. Unless you're keen to see City win the premier league for 10 years in a row, you're better off watching a different league for enjoyment.
Foundations are owners and shareholders, is money more important than winning?
they told spurs to throw the game. There's no way Son misses that chance 99 times out of 100.
Levy won’t stand for that he’ll be sacked next season
Can’t believe these pundits have no clue what and he talking about when it’s so obviously about the spurs fans (and maybe spurs player subtly) cheering on city when they scored against us and not cheering us on in the end when we needed to get the equaliser and win the match. It definitely contributed to us not being able to win this match. Ange is is referring to our small club mentality where we focus on petty rivalry rather than the greater good and doing our best every time to contend for a championship.
he was asked to field their B squad and lose on purpose to make the fans happy that Arsenal couldn't win the league. I heard that from a very close source.
Romero let that 1-0 goal in im 100% sure
Is Owen ok? It’s pretty obvious what he’s referring to ffs
History of the Tottenham
“It’s been an interesting exercise”. He’s 100% leaving at the end of the season. No ambition in Spurs at all. Watch him leave and with no other option, they get Southgate in 😂
He wants the Liverpool job
Owen and Phillips acting all confused they know what he is saying ...
As much as I don’t like Tottenham, I feel like every other club’s fans would feel similarly in that position. People like to pretend football fans differ much between teams but they really don’t. At the end of the day they’re mostly English and culturally enjoy seeing others lose more than winning themselves. Happens in the cricket as well.
Maybe in England. One of the many reasons your country is so terrible at sport.
I’m Australian my country is great at sport lol.
Once these players become so called pundits they are owned. They know longer have an opinion and have to follow the networks agenda. It’s clear what Ange is saying. The fans, team and board have no ambition
Hes echoing Conte!
Cant you all see that ?
Love Ange and hoped for the best but the reality is Spurs are one of the most unserious teams in top flight football. Lovely stadium, but its a clown show on the pitch and off.
Just look at ex player O'Hara, spending a whole week talking about stopping Arsenal. Wearing a city shirt and cheering the city goals. A total embarrassment and if I was Ange I'd get out of that bitter, little toxic club. Son having a little laugh at the end with Pep should tell you everything....
ETH will fit into Spurs!!!
Easy analysis= The club has a loser mentality (fans, board, etc..) and that's why they don't win anything.