I'm sick of companies treating the loss of PII in the same way they would dropping the last cookie on the floor (hope no one has noticed, or make light of the loss?).
If people knew how accessible their PII really is, they would be much more reluctant to share it with companies. Most of the time, it is stored right next to non-PII 😂
"dell downplayed the breach" does every company on earth downplay how fucked they are? its becoming a routine nowadays to just assume its way way waaaaay worse then what theyre saying
day like ten thousand of me waiting for companies to actually be punished for terrible security and getting customers data leaked with minimal consequence
If people knew how accessible their PII really is, they would be much more reluctant to share it with companies. Most of the time, it is stored right next to non-PII 😂
I read this as BEACHFORUMS and thought, "Why is the FBI interested in BeachForums - is there something going down on nice beaches?" I kinda was hoping that there really was a forum to discuss beaches.
@@bendgk123 well duh. NZ is a cohesive white nation. that = top quality work, no neo-commie PC bullshit interfering with task completion, and no completely underqualified diversity hires standing on soap boxes in offices they arent qualified for screming about racism
Something interesting I noticed is the badge of "Kantonspolizei Zürich". This is a local police force in Switzerland. For them to be active in such a project means that a least on person or sever was located on the territory of the canton Zürich
unless that API is being used so often that an extra 5k RPM look like anything, any firewall worth a damn would see that this ONE ip is sending more requests then any other and would block it within minutes or at the very least send a fucking alert to the dashboard
GPT4 to comb through data for law enforcement. Knew this was coming. Given law enforcements traditional overreach into peoples lives (typical 'what are you afraid of? you only need privacy if you have something to hide') combined with LLM's tendency to hallucinate (though, even if it didn't, its still bad) I don't look forward to seeing what comes of this.
@@isaacwright2247 People who steal others info and gain access that they're not legally allowed to have ran the site. They were teaching others to do the same. Doesn't seem too innocent to me.
@@IShoePets There are other people who made a big deal about FBI seizing this site. Ukraine and New Zealand also were involved but not Canada. Why not Canada? Why so many in comments here make big deal and panic about it?
@@isaacwright2247 I have no way of knowing why Canada wasn't involved, nor do I think it matters. A bunch of criminals lost their playground and that's a good thing. Congrats to the FBI and those who helped them shut it down.
These companies should have to pay fines for every customer record that was stolen. I don't let any company scan any of my id''s which seems to be the norm these days. I make them copy the number. I also never let them take a picture of me, another thing they have started doing recently. I never give them my phone number and stuff shipped to a po box
I worked in IT foe 30 years (sadly, not in security). I learned not to trust computers. If something can be written, it can be broken. Of course that was 10 years ago and I am sure things are getting better what with AI all the rage for writing basic routines . Just ask the AIBot to write unbreakable code. This will work just fine until someone else asks the AIBot to break the unbreakable code. Wash, rinse, repeat.
I got a degree in the computerz and I've been telling people for decades if the data is important it shouldn't be on a computer connected to the internet; if it's extremely important it shouldn't be on a computer connected to the internet and it should be on a stand alone power supply not on public power; and if it's really really important it shouldn't be on a computer at all.
@@TPQ1980then make government reign companies in. i’m so tired of free deal capitalism where companies can do whatever they want under the law, and if it means huge breaches of privacy or ethically poor choices, then they can do it. big government isn’t usually the answer but goddamnit they need to do something.
Hey Seytonic, I don't know if it's an editing style or some stupid thing UA-cam is doing but some screenshots of your computer and some images seem to be a bit small unless the video is filled. Not sure if this is normal but I thought I'd inform you. That aside, another interesting and engaging video Seytonic, well done.
The Department of Justice compiled a report, observing that “the alleged violations in McMinn County were the worst ever brought to the attention of the Department of Justice.” Despite overwhelming evidence and continuing petitions, the Feds took no action.
"Hello, is this Mr. John Smith of 123 Maple Street?" "Did you buy a Dell laptop on April 01 2023?" "Are you still the current owner?" "Can you confirm serial number is 135SUB?" "There's a product recall of this system due to a faulty power supply.. which could cause a fire and burn down your home. Please turn it off and unplug it. A mule will be around in short order to collect it and you'll have a replacement same day from FedEx". 🤥
Very interesting episode all around! Good to know I won’t be buying anything from Dell if I can help it. Full name and address is in many countries very easy to connect to a phone number, even through legitimate means. In fact many people are willing to expose their phone number to anyone who knows their name and address, meaning Dell not leaking their phone number as well hardly makes a difference. Dell themselves were operating exactly that kind of good-faith service, just without any rate limits. Dell took it as given that anyone who knew the product code must have a legitimate need for the address and name as well. And yet they treat persons phone number based on full name and address as information so sensitive others ought to protect it. Sidenote: why the hell is FBI using that font in their titles? They definitely have a brand guide, yet every time they seize a server the frontpages are made to look like a printed houseparty poster from 2010.
You don't even need another breach, for the vast majority of people (at least in the US) a name and address will get you a phone number and probably an email and a bunch of other info too.
Pfft! Could easily send out en mass a bunch of “promotions” to these dell customers and scam them that way. Physical mail with your information on it and a promotion would be way more legit sounding than being contacted via phone. Like all the other scammers do. It’s more effort, but the pay out is way more!
yea, a letter hides an indian accent, and indian arrogance an utter lack of disrespect. the problem is none of them can form a proper sentence, so it wont hide their grammar
It's pointless to try to fight these type of forums. All that will happen: the People there will migrate somewhere else and keep on trucking. They should have hired this Person and allowed them to keep going, while slowly introducing new admins (FBI agents) that 'prove themselves' in a realistic way. It's kinda like shutting down silk road, People just filled the void left behind- it's fighting a hydra.
Honestly love that they have the funny icons of the dog with handcuffs and the admin's icons behind bars. Some intern put effort into that so that the FBI could truly do a little trolling.
It's not "baffomay" it's BAPHO- METT. This is not a new word. edit: honestly this reads very rudely so I need to add I really enjoyed the video and your voice isn't grating. I just kept noticing that
Wow Dell really dropped the ball there in so many ways. Not only do you not have any request limits but you also don't have any mechanism with in the system to notice an additional 5000 requests per minute? Like you might be thinking "oh 5000 requests that doesn't seem like that many if it's a big business" and then you realize that it's 7.2 million requests per day. That is 1 request per person in Nicaragua per day and you'd still be 200 000 short. Like there should have been some red flags that something was being automated there is no way you're going to have live agents running 7.2 million requests per day from a single IP address, for a partner that just appeared out of no where and it's not like Dell is some rinky dink non-tech mom and pop store. This is a company that has been in tech for what? 50+ years at this point? You guys should be better than this, rule number 1 when putting anything on the internet: spend twice as long as you think you need to on ways you can break it at minimum because it's not a matter of if someone will break it but how long until they will and ya'll made this so easy, you gave them a backdoor to your data base that was unmonitored and apparently the only thing standing in the way was a 24-48 hour waiting period? Like CMON! So dumb.
I've been saying this since it came back online, it was a honeypot and they'd let it run until it needed to be killed. and what just got rumored? intelbroker having posession of massive amounts of aviation defense data. killing BF massively reduces the reach of the pending dump since most of the users only know of that one source. my guess at least
I'm sick of companies treating the loss of PII in the same way they would dropping the last cookie on the floor (hope no one has noticed, or make light of the loss?).
they should lose their compliance status
If people knew how accessible their PII really is, they would be much more reluctant to share it with companies. Most of the time, it is stored right next to non-PII 😂
they just dont wanna pay
"dell downplayed the breach" does every company on earth downplay how fucked they are? its becoming a routine nowadays to just assume its way way waaaaay worse then what theyre saying
it depends a bit. if there are in the eu, and there is a chance that the rest will be exposed,the risk with additional fine
"it doesnt directly affect us, only our customers, so its not that bad"
It's dell, they've been fucking customers in the ass since XP released.
To be fair, what financial incentive do they have to admit guilt?
Why would they NOT downplay it? Do you not downplay your actions when you fuck up majorly?
Almost certainly a honeypot
I am in no matter
100% the fbi doesn't use a bs screen like that for their seizures any website that cashes and runs uses the same style but always different.
if it wasnt a honeypot before it was seized the first time, its definitely one after it came back up.
CTF going hard this year.
ctf? just hack actual companies bro
@@SolitaryEliteong😤
Capture the Funds .
day like ten thousand of me waiting for companies to actually be punished for terrible security and getting customers data leaked with minimal consequence
which means more of the same. with no real consequences, they will keep asking for way too much PII, and not protecting it in storage
If people knew how accessible their PII really is, they would be much more reluctant to share it with companies. Most of the time, it is stored right next to non-PII 😂
EUROPOL leak is crazy 💀
Fr lmao I would never expect anything like that 😂✌🏽 I think winning lottery would be more predictable 😭
Wait... THIS is the page shown when the FBI takes control? It looks like an e-sports splash screen, lol
yeah its basically a shitty PNG, sometimes they customize it in photoshop. lol Makes you question their cyber forensics ability.
we need younger people working with the fbi, or just an actual graphic designer 😭
That profile picture is amazing!
@@nwerd7584 it really does, but it is not like a seized page image actually matters. fbi don't care about graphic design if they got what they wanted
@@Octahedran I guess its more of an insult to brag about taking your shit with a terrible picture. lol
I often don't think about it, but thank you for your consistently excellent captions! You do a lot better than many large channels even.
Thanks for putting up with my rough ill voice : )
Honestly barely noticed dude, thanks for putting up good content even while ill ( :
Lol
I didn't notice until you mentioned it, get well soon mate.
theres only maybe 1 spot where you notice something, I just assumed it was congestion.
Thanks for pushing through to bring us accurate informative updates 🩷 take care
AI models gonna go crazy with tech support scams with data breaches.
Sadly, there already are. Of course they are only in development - Wink Wink, nod nod, jab jab.
dell should be fined for not protecting customer data.
You smell like an ameritard...
Most obvious honeypot in history
I read this as BEACHFORUMS and thought, "Why is the FBI interested in BeachForums - is there something going down on nice beaches?"
I kinda was hoping that there really was a forum to discuss beaches.
You weren’t the only one lol
Couldn't trust BF after the first take down lol
🤷 On you, don't slip.
Ohhhh that europol breach is juicy :D
Finally the dell breach
Great work on the video!
NZ Police involved in the taking down Breach Forums 2.0.... Damn.
The also were involved in the og yify and yts torrents shutdown, seems they play hard!
@@Sprinkles-r5y Yea, you just don't see it too often
If I recall they were big players in the Alpha Bay takedown too.
They'd be the logical five eyes loophole for the fbi to spy on americans
@@bendgk123 well duh. NZ is a cohesive white nation. that = top quality work, no neo-commie PC bullshit interfering with task completion, and no completely underqualified diversity hires standing on soap boxes in offices they arent qualified for screming about racism
Something interesting I noticed is the badge of "Kantonspolizei Zürich". This is a local police force in Switzerland. For them to be active in such a project means that a least on person or sever was located on the territory of the canton Zürich
thanks captain obvious
@@Blox117 that's not obvious for anyone who doesn't live in that region?
@@Blox1172023 global census: 8 billion people. 2022 swiss census: 8 MILLION people. why are you so angry??
@@Blox117womp womp
guess they r *fed* up with them
How do you not notice that you have 5000 requests per minute on your DB ????
TBF, sites like UA-cam, Facebook, Twitter and other large sites get a large volume of requests per minute.
and for three weeks straight... can't say I expected any more from Dell
unless that API is being used so often that an extra 5k RPM look like anything, any firewall worth a damn would see that this ONE ip is sending more requests then any other and would block it within minutes or at the very least send a fucking alert to the dashboard
@@zorbanoodle5272 not even an it specialist but man this is a huge L to not notice
If they HAVE a dashboard.@@zorbanoodle5272
I wonder if that new domain is just being used by the FBI after all, guess we'll see
GPT4 to comb through data for law enforcement. Knew this was coming. Given law enforcements traditional overreach into peoples lives (typical 'what are you afraid of? you only need privacy if you have something to hide') combined with LLM's tendency to hallucinate (though, even if it didn't, its still bad) I don't look forward to seeing what comes of this.
Guidelines for the seizure and sale of Virtual Assets = you have to make sure it's not Zelensky's or Biden's first.
That's been a honeypot for a while now...
And I’m just gonna put this out, stupid Banks can’t be even bothered to let customers use their Yubikeys. Smh 🤦
Time to defund the FBI
For busting criminals, or are you referencing something else aside from this video? Genuinely curious here.
@@IShoePets Because they took such an innocent forum away.
@@isaacwright2247 People who steal others info and gain access that they're not legally allowed to have ran the site. They were teaching others to do the same. Doesn't seem too innocent to me.
@@IShoePets There are other people who made a big deal about FBI seizing this site. Ukraine and New Zealand also were involved but not Canada. Why not Canada? Why so many in comments here make big deal and panic about it?
@@isaacwright2247 I have no way of knowing why Canada wasn't involved, nor do I think it matters. A bunch of criminals lost their playground and that's a good thing. Congrats to the FBI and those who helped them shut it down.
Woke up for dis upload
These companies should have to pay fines for every customer record that was stolen. I don't let any company scan any of my id''s which seems to be the norm these days. I make them copy the number. I also never let them take a picture of me, another thing they have started doing recently. I never give them my phone number and stuff shipped to a po box
I worked in IT foe 30 years (sadly, not in security). I learned not to trust computers. If something can be written, it can be broken. Of course that was 10 years ago and I am sure things are getting better what with AI all the rage for writing basic routines . Just ask the AIBot to write unbreakable code. This will work just fine until someone else asks the AIBot to break the unbreakable code. Wash, rinse, repeat.
AI is just a housing for demons
I got a degree in the computerz and I've been telling people for decades if the data is important it shouldn't be on a computer connected to the internet; if it's extremely important it shouldn't be on a computer connected to the internet and it should be on a stand alone power supply not on public power; and if it's really really important it shouldn't be on a computer at all.
We need stricter laws that make companies more liable for breaches
@@TPQ1980 bingo. only naiive, out-of-touch trust fund kids or people with IQs under 90 think like this
Not gonna happen in a country that legalized bribery
@@TPQ1980then make government reign companies in. i’m so tired of free deal capitalism where companies can do whatever they want under the law, and if it means huge breaches of privacy or ethically poor choices, then they can do it. big government isn’t usually the answer but goddamnit they need to do something.
We need more leniency like Canada, UK, and Australia.
Another reason to convince friends and family to stay away from dell :)
isn't dell resold computers from other companies?
@@XioJNno
You know it's serious when the post office gets involved
😂😂😂 thanks for the updates brother
I did not re sign up on the second site. I was and am confident it’s a honey pot
Nice one seytonic for shouting out doingfedtime that guy deserves much more love from all the creators who cover opsec
Great video as always mate.
At least the geezer who lives in fake street will be safe.
They cant keep gettin away with this!
US can’t keep getting away with being so communist.
Hey Seytonic, I don't know if it's an editing style or some stupid thing UA-cam is doing but some screenshots of your computer and some images seem to be a bit small unless the video is filled. Not sure if this is normal but I thought I'd inform you.
That aside, another interesting and engaging video Seytonic, well done.
Yay, I was waiting for your video on the topic :D
The Department of Justice compiled a report, observing that “the alleged violations in McMinn County were the worst ever brought to the attention of the Department of Justice.” Despite overwhelming evidence and continuing petitions, the Feds took no action.
@@SioxerNikita you clearly have never read the writings of the founding fathers. modern "america" is a neo-commie multicultural hellhole
Msn, that's embarrassing
"Hello, is this Mr. John Smith of 123 Maple Street?" "Did you buy a Dell laptop on April 01 2023?" "Are you still the current owner?" "Can you confirm serial number is 135SUB?" "There's a product recall of this system due to a faulty power supply.. which could cause a fire and burn down your home. Please turn it off and unplug it. A mule will be around in short order to collect it and you'll have a replacement same day from FedEx". 🤥
The U.S. Government is always slow to react... lets seize websites now too late.
I would rather TikTok be seized than something as innocent as this.
@@isaacwright2247 What!!!!!
Exit scam. Criminals be criminals.
Unless you’re in Canada, UK, or Australia and then you are just a normal person who is innocent.
Very interesting episode all around! Good to know I won’t be buying anything from Dell if I can help it. Full name and address is in many countries very easy to connect to a phone number, even through legitimate means. In fact many people are willing to expose their phone number to anyone who knows their name and address, meaning Dell not leaking their phone number as well hardly makes a difference.
Dell themselves were operating exactly that kind of good-faith service, just without any rate limits. Dell took it as given that anyone who knew the product code must have a legitimate need for the address and name as well. And yet they treat persons phone number based on full name and address as information so sensitive others ought to protect it.
Sidenote: why the hell is FBI using that font in their titles? They definitely have a brand guide, yet every time they seize a server the frontpages are made to look like a printed houseparty poster from 2010.
i love the fbi drawing the offender in handcuffs or in jail when they seize hackforums
Cool, now I know that a website that I DON"T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT got seized. I hope they will be back selling bananas and apples.
You don't even need another breach, for the vast majority of people (at least in the US) a name and address will get you a phone number and probably an email and a bunch of other info too.
When starting a site like this, operate by static ip only, no domains.
INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
this is some death note level plot right here
I heard that some site/people fake their site getting taken down by the FBI I don't remember why they do that but they do
*_It's a honey pot now._*
Like UA-cam actually cares about human rights
Like Canada, UK, or Australia even care about anything like this in the first place.
@@isaacwright2247wheres the usa lmao
Pfft! Could easily send out en mass a bunch of “promotions” to these dell customers and scam them that way.
Physical mail with your information on it and a promotion would be way more legit sounding than being contacted via phone. Like all the other scammers do.
It’s more effort, but the pay out is way more!
yea, a letter hides an indian accent, and indian arrogance an utter lack of disrespect.
the problem is none of them can form a proper sentence, so it wont hide their grammar
The FBI and hackers are good brothers who confront and achieve each other
Oh wow well if the FBI gave it back I'm sure it's totally safe and not a honeypot at all
If we were more lenient like Canada we wouldn’t have stupid FBI in the first place.
That they took the time to put theyre avatars with bars p as jailed versions on that seize banner is comedy gold.
tbh i love that feds are much more playful with cybercrime than physical crime
I honestly can’t support the fbi
.. lol. I love honeypots.
Surely it's safe to use.
We have FBI AI models before GTA 6
NEW SEYTONIC VIDEO 🗣🗣🗣
What if the "seizure" of the st was fake to just get a higher profile?
2 mafias at war
It’s simple, that isn’t a legitimate banner, they never look that graphically sophisticated. It’s a sham, there was no takedown.
Reminder--the FBI's job is to protect corporate interests and make up for shortcomings in corporate security.
FBI are just a bunch of communists.
Dont go into that telegram there is probably some 0day shit
What is a "consumer segment company"?
The threat actor of the facebook marketplace breach is not the one Intel Broker claims to be 😂
..?
The FBI will never be able to control, prevent, or fight the sticky keyboard and Red Bull drinkers warriors
It's pointless to try to fight these type of forums. All that will happen: the People there will migrate somewhere else and keep on trucking. They should have hired this Person and allowed them to keep going, while slowly introducing new admins (FBI agents) that 'prove themselves' in a realistic way. It's kinda like shutting down silk road, People just filled the void left behind- it's fighting a hydra.
You need to do a video about the arrest of incognito admin . It just happened
why they so obsessed with us
They now have N.W.A Fuk Da Police playing in the site lmao
Defund the police, defund the government, defund the military, defund the FBI, defund the federal government and that will Canadize us.
Honestly love that they have the funny icons of the dog with handcuffs and the admin's icons behind bars. Some intern put effort into that so that the FBI could truly do a little trolling.
the FBI seem to really like doing a little trolling.
@@chri-k cause half the cybercrime employees are failed hackers that still think theyre part of the cool kids club
i thought it said FBI Sizes BreachForums! But then loves it...
It's not "baffomay" it's BAPHO- METT. This is not a new word. edit: honestly this reads very rudely so I need to add I really enjoyed the video and your voice isn't grating. I just kept noticing that
breached
it will line up.
Its not only dell, try the other big providers too. Hpe wont check if your company is real for example, I discovered this by accident.
"loses it" huehuehuehue
Honeypot
I think, thy just captured a proxy 😂
this is typical FBI. such an absolute lack of awarenes.
There's _nothing_ illegal about information, unless you're the enemy.
Forum name change might be a very good idea.
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 50% of users on Breached are cybersecurity pro's and UA-camrs, lol
honeypot
this thumbnail is a honeypot, peace
Dell being dell
The owner of KiwiFarms, Josh Moon, claims to know baphomet from 8chan days.
Wow Dell really dropped the ball there in so many ways. Not only do you not have any request limits but you also don't have any mechanism with in the system to notice an additional 5000 requests per minute? Like you might be thinking "oh 5000 requests that doesn't seem like that many if it's a big business" and then you realize that it's 7.2 million requests per day. That is 1 request per person in Nicaragua per day and you'd still be 200 000 short. Like there should have been some red flags that something was being automated there is no way you're going to have live agents running 7.2 million requests per day from a single IP address, for a partner that just appeared out of no where and it's not like Dell is some rinky dink non-tech mom and pop store. This is a company that has been in tech for what? 50+ years at this point? You guys should be better than this, rule number 1 when putting anything on the internet: spend twice as long as you think you need to on ways you can break it at minimum because it's not a matter of if someone will break it but how long until they will and ya'll made this so easy, you gave them a backdoor to your data base that was unmonitored and apparently the only thing standing in the way was a 24-48 hour waiting period? Like CMON! So dumb.
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There is a reason they call systems "compromised" instead of "taken" or "given back". This is a mindset that will get you pwned.
I've been saying this since it came back online, it was a honeypot and they'd let it run until it needed to be killed. and what just got rumored? intelbroker having posession of massive amounts of aviation defense data. killing BF massively reduces the reach of the pending dump since most of the users only know of that one source. my guess at least
Spot on
getting warmer
H-H-H-HONEY POT!!