Separated at Birth: Twins and Triplets Reunite after Cruel Experiment | ENDEVR Documentary
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- Separated at Birth: Twins and Triplets Reunite after Cruel Experiment | ENDEVR Documentary
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In the 1960s Identical twins and triplets were secretly split up in infancy and studied by psychoanalysts for decades. This documentary examines the traumatic, long-term effects of the separations - and continuing deception - on the twins and their adoptive families.
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In the 1960s Identical twins and triplets were secretly split up in infancy and studied by psychoanalysts for decades.
This documentary examines the traumatic, long-term effects of the separations - and continuing deception - on the twins and their adoptive families.
And yet they wonder why we don't "trust the science."
You seem equivocal. No, it isn't interesting. It's base and revolting
Is this same experiment from adoption agency with triple in nyc?
Omg ,this is same agency and I’m
Watched of few of these documentaries
Babies didn't receive anesthesia for surgery until very recently. Doctors didn't believe infants could feel pain. Question your "experts" and their ethics !
If you think for ONE minute that the government doesnt do these terrible things anymore, you would be 100% wrong.
The government didn’t do this though. Had absolutely nothing to do with it. What kind of terrible things are they doing? How do you know?
@@Garbeaux.They are controlling us. People are so brainwashed many don't even have a clue. We're slaves to the system. That's just to name a few. How do I know? Because I have eyes to see and ears to hear.
You must be American lol
If you are on Medicaid or Medicare, you can count on it. My children and I have been subject to so much medical and psychological abuse since the nineties.
@@Garbeaux. , The government owns the Universities. It's the ones, Rockefellers, that control the government that do these things. Rockefeller medicine it is known as since the thirties.
This is deplorable. Per Wikipedia, "At least three of the separated siblings apparently died by suicide." There needs to be compensation to these men for this CRIME.
i think that is why they sealed the documents so they cannot be opened until al the drs. in the study were dead. they now cannot be sued but the institution they worked for can be.
It was men and women. AND their families.
And Women
i think i know the mother of Sharon Alissa Bergman and she would have been 16 when she had them and it was WAY covered up until I saw Sharon's face. Her mother is an EXACT replica of Sharon, unmistable. Not sure if their mother will have the strength to face this.
lies are VERY depressing. the truth shall set you free ----- yes it will -------
Man. The one twin who found the other twin only to find out she had passed away. That is just so sad.
That is the worst kind of heartbreak.
Gut wrenching 😢😢😠😠
Majorie died of depression. Paula suffered loss as well.
not just passed away, but committed suicide. That right there speaks volumes about the cruelty of this experiment.
I know someone that's twin died of crib death and she never got over it . And I have a cousin her twin died during childbirth I've never asked her but I'm sure she thinks about what if ?
I’m an identical twin. This show was excruciating to watch. These twins have been robbed.
Do you have any weird twin stories? Like your twin got hurt but you felt it?
@@Garbeaux. i guess there is a troll for everything.
@@bsquared4604 how am trolling by asking a genuine question? Maybe you’re the troll trying to bully me.
@@Garbeaux. I do have a couple. I’ll think about if I can share here. But I will say I have been spotted in her town and been approached by folks to me who are strangers but to her are not. And they have been insulted that I walk past them without saying Hi. But how can I when I’ve never seen them before 😂
@@bsquared4604Not a troll question, there have been twin stories where a twin felt the very moment their twin passed away or got hurt, identical twins split from a single egg it wouldn't be far fetched for them to be bonded in very unique and interesting ways, like being able to finish each other's sentences or know what the other is thinking sometimes..
My grandpa was a twin.. His sister in later life had dementia, she couldn't recognize ANYONE.. But she would call him, her twin. She would try to eat the wrapper the Big Mac came in, but KNEW he was her twin. He was the last person she remembered, even after she forgot her children, husband, other siblings.. So sad they separated these souls.
How very sad. May they be reunited one day...
One soul but two bodies.
One of my grandmother was also a twin with a boy and there’s many twins in my family
My grandmother was a twin. She & her sister were adopted out to different families when her parents couldn't financially take care of all their kids. I always wondered what became of her twin sister. So sad!
I am the mother of twins. And I know twins start the "twinning" connection before birth, in the womb. That expert was so wrong.
Yes I have twin grand sons!!
Agree.. mine were entwined in womb... couldn't imagine them being seperated
I have identical twin boys and I could feel their connection from the womb
I was going to say just this! I am not the mother of twins, but it seems obvious that these children are bonded well before birth. Outrageous and cruel these so-called doctors. An absolute disgrace.
😢😢😢😢
As a mother of identical twins, this documentary broke my heart and soul on so many levels. These individuals were robbed of the most important connection they literally began life with.
I have scarce knowledge of twins, but I found it heartbreaking. I can only try to grasp its effect on parents of twins, twins, or especially on those people who “were” the study. Horrible.
As a daughter of identical twins it makes me mad as a hornit!
@@rochellerule8854Do you mean that one or possibly both of your parents has a twin sibling? The way you stated it implies that your parents were twin siblings...
They have yet to fully reveal who the twins are who were brought into the nature vs nurture study. Subjects have asked and were told that they were not a part of the study, only to find later that infact they were.
What I do know is that the human connection is a spiritual thing. Persons can tell that something is wrong, something is not complete, something is missing. Those feelings will never go until closure is found. God designed us with intelligence from before our arrival in this mortal world. Thus we see early unexplained behaviours and reactions that defied logical explanations by some of those kids in the experiment.
It is highly suggestive that Dr. Neubauer and Dr Bernard went to some extreme lengths which could be described as cold and callous, devoid of any empathy for the subjects. Thus their inability and unwillingness to divulge their findings. I believe that the experiment continues today to include the offsprings of the subjects.
Further, how was epigenetics included or incorporated in this experiment?
Is it that the aim is to ensure that the subjects never find out what they were made to endure to their detriment and total disadvantage. A study which ultimately benefits no one; else why wait for decades, infact a hundred years before revealing the findings?
May their miserable souls find no peace in the eternities in recompense for the senseless injustice perpetrated upon the innocent little (guinea pigs) ones.
Watch the movie about the triples.
Childhood trauma is a thing. It doesn't have to be abuse or neglect, it can be separation too. This causes untold lifelong damage
CPTSD is a real thing. One can take the ACEs test to “score” their trauma. It used to be out of 10, now out of 18. I’m a 16 🤷♂️but my kids are a 4. Their kids will be better than them. 🫡🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🏴
im a thinker, and have gone things that hapoened to me, i was an adult before i was one, not by my choice, but i dont sit and cry about it, it makes me a stronger person, and at the same time dont trust people
As does separation from one’s birth mother. Infant trauma is now acknowledged by the medical community. It SHOULD have been recognized by the middle of the last century. Most new mothers report that their baby immediately recognized them …it’s inconceivable that anyone genuinely motivated by child welfare could conclude otherwise.
I was abandoned Wich left me with a life time of abandonment and lonely isolation. But Christ protected me from the worst
I was present when 4 siblings were removed from their Mother. Two oler girls an a set of twins, a boy and girl.
I will never forget their screams.
The older girls were adopted by one family. The twins were adopted by another.
Before the Mother's rights were terminated she gave birth to another Son, also removed.
He was adopted by the family who adopted the twins.
They are brought together every week to play together.
I was shocked and amazed to know this.
It's a beautiful thing.
I've never heard of this happening before.
I hope to hear of it more. ❤
I'm a physician, and I cried throughout the film. You don't have to have much education to imagine the connection of two human beings with identical DNA! This so called study was beyond cruel! The children could feel in their spirit and soul that something was missing. What was missing was they themselves! Heartbreaking!! 💔💔💔
💞 There Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
I feel it was absolutely criminal; those poor children, and their extended families!
Beautifully said....
Hey Dr. this shows that not everybody’s meant to be a Doctor No matter how well they do in their studies. You have to have a heart and without a heart you cannot be a good physician.
The only information those Doctors learned from this cruel experiment was this. NEVER NEVER SEPERATE TWINS AND TRIPLETS.
I remember Eddie Galland. We both worked together as teenagers in a bakery He was 16 and I was 18 We had a lot of laughs I’ll never forget how he made everyone laugh. Sad to hear about what happened. Rest In Peace Eddie
That was lovely to share that memory. Incredible sad story for all of those involved, the parents who chose to surrender the children, the adoptive parents, the new siblings and extended families also. And of course the babies that were used and betrayed and traumatised by the deplorable event. I can only hope for those who took their own lives, and with no judgement on them what so ever …. That they did experience some moments of sheer joy, love and belonging while they had their brief moment with their love ones. Such a tragic and senseless outcome along with a expotential abuse of power by certain professional mental health experts.
Well stated ❤️
The way these vulnerable children were treated chills me to the bone. As a society we so easily abuse those without power in this world.
This comment. Thank you. We have exploited, used and abused children worldwide since the beginning. We wonder why we have the society we are living in. Generations of mental health issues.
@@TEM14411and it’s still continuing today as we speak it’ll never stop
Playing God must have been a heady experience.
Out of those 4 studies, 2 of them had suicides. It just goes to show how separation is that traumatic for twins/triplets.
Three.
3 suicides😢💔
Think about the ones who were not included in the study or the the two sets that have remained apart. Ugh!
To continue to deny all these twins and triplets access to their own information is unconscionable. This is their LIFE. GOD BLESS EACH ONE OF THEM.
I lost my twin as a miscarriage in utero, after 5 months gestation. I felt it all through childhood even though I didn't actually find out about her until a few years ago. As a child, I used to wonder if my mother had given my twin for adoption because she couldn't handle two babies. Later I wondered if my father had given away my twin and never told my mother about her (the days when mothers were put under anesthesia to give birth). Around age 6 or 7 I discovered I could open the bathroom medicine cabinet that was mirrored and see two of myself in the sink mirror. I played and talked with that image so many times that my mother started forbidding me to do it. When I was 10 we traveled the country in a motorhome, and I fantasized I would run in to my twin in some other state. Eventually, I became old enough to realize the fantasy of a lost twin was illogical, but deep down I still looked for her well in to my 20's. When I was finally told about the miscarriage in my 50's, I immediately "knew" and even "remembered" interacting with her in the womb. I remembered she was always funny and active and the outgoing personality. I remembered "waking up" one day and looking over to connect with her like I always did, but she had her back turned toward me and wouldn't respond. I felt all those emotions again. All this, after existing with her for only 5 months... I cannot imagine how much more intense it must be for babies separated long after birth!!
Wow. What an incredible story. I can't believe your mom never told you the truth... even when you would have been "old enough to understand". Like in your teens. I'm sorry for your loss. ❤
@@feliciagaffney1998 thank you, I appreciate your sentiment! To be fair, my mother did tell me about almost losing me. It never occurred to her or the doctor that there were twins. The doctor had told her it was a blood clot, because he could hear my heartbeat and everything else seemed fine with the pregnancy. We used to always say my mother was the queen of denial for everything, so this isn't surprising that she didn't think it through.
Oh my gosh your story made me cry! My sisters are identical twins and their bond is so special. Our souls will always know & remember.
So very sorry for your terrible loss. I can’t begin to imagine your heartbreak. 💔
I would imagine it would be like fantom limb syndrome but a million times worse bc your other half was gone. 🌹🌹 I'm an Identical twin & can't even imagine her not here...💞
Child abuse carried out by narcissists
Who else is not at all surprised at the players in this cruel and unnecessary 'experiment'. We've read the records of many other 'experiments' done on other's of all ages just as cruel. And involving the same group of people.
THE most narcissistic. 🥺🙏😭
Wow. There aren't enough derogatory adjectives to describe what these "professionals" inflicted upon these individuals. 💔
They had no right to do this. It was clearly illegal after the consent laws were changed. I'm so sorry for the victims of this atrocious experience.
It wasn’t clearly illegal if the laws had to be changed to actually make it illegal.
The fact that there are more twins / multiples that have NO idea that their siblings are out there is crazy.
@@breememe6192 what they don’t know can’t hurt them. 🤷♂️
@CatBalou38 These 'studies' began BEFORE the 1974 laws . . . I believe that the 1974 laws only dealt with new studies, not ones already in progress. We have learned so much since these 'professionals' imposed their ignorant work upon innocent children and families!
They knew what they were doing, when the young lady confirmed what I was thinking, shocked me even more. They didn't start to develop a twinning bond after birth, it starts in the womb, the fact that they kept them in the same Crib, that was to strengthen the bond, they kept all the children together in the beginning for the same purpose. Facts have shown Twins have a hard time living life without each other, so it doesn't change that, it amplifies it. I truly hope what they learn from this is, it's absolutely, positively wrong and don't even think of ever doing it again!
In 1994 UCLA asked me to participate in a study. I was on the non monitored group VS a monitored group with a psychologist guiding new mothers. The first time they asked me to just leave the room and not say anything to my yhen 1year old. My son went nuts, pounding on the door looking for me. I was behind a two-way mirror. I pushed the psychologist away and marched in for my baby. Eff the study and I never returned. My heart breaks for these kids.
Well done for abandoning the study and not letting them have the chance to gaslight, shame, guilt or manipulate you to keep participating. Ethics are important and are there to stop immoral and abuse of power in medical studies.
I saw a documentary of this study. It was narrated by human voices that sounded professional and sane but this 'experiment' was anything but sane.
Your instincts were fully in charge, thank goodness. They have been numbed in so many women. Even this brief trauma must have marked
both your son and yourself. Thank you for sharing your experience, as awful as it was.
I’m not a twin, but I know for a fact that twins feel a special connection and they understand one another more than soulmates. This is devastating and so unethical to separate twins. Pure evil.
Half of the whole...Im an Identical Twin myself. 🏵🏵
I’m an identical twin. This was so hard to watch. What a cruel thing to do to these twins/triplets. Not only are they adopted not knowing their biological parents but they had a twin which most definitely left a void in their psyche. And how does a child deal with that?! I think it’s clear by the lack of publishing and sealed records that the results were overwhelmingly negative, especially considering that suicide has been present in more than one of these families. So incredibly sad.
Yep
Yes, for all the supposed “interest” in the welfare of wards of the state (which is what surrendered babies are before being adopted), state and federal health departments fail to compile statistics on the age & cause of death of adoptees. Anecdotal evidence indicates that mental health problems and suicide rates are much higher amongst adoptees as compared to the general public. We in the adoptee advocacy community believe the statistics weren’t tracked because if the truth were known back during adoption’s heyday, adoption would lose its social acceptability.
Were that to happen, the state would have been left with a ton of abandoned kids it had to support.
@@jenniferlynn3537 Is being raised in foster care a better option than being adopted? I doubt it.
@@jenniferlynn3537 This topic needs more attention. Thanks for your response.
Leaves a Hole in their Soul's too...I'm sure you feel the same on this opinion. I'm an Identical Twin also. (Half of a whole.💞)🌹
I cried, I seethed, I felt horror, and I felt shock. I can’t believe this was initiated so soon after the end of WWII. Human experiments without the subjects knowing??? What a cruel, cruel thing to do to families.
They do this all the time what about spring all of those housewives with LSD type in human unethical experimentation and read the list all across the world so many here in the United States it makes me sick and nobody ever is held accountable for it. Why because the government is daemonic that’s my opinion there’s no other way to look at it
Look up MK Ultra. This was a govt experiment on people as well. There are documents on one of the .gov sites that you can read . Very disturbing.
Happening today as well
@@mightytaiger3000 Then make it known. People are desensitized but haven’t lost their humanity. People are going after actual villains now.
Wrong ! There were much crueller things done than this. The kids were raised in good families, most of them. Would they have a better life if they had stayed together with their birth parents? The fact that they ended up in an adoption agency already meant they were not wanted. They were studied in their natural environment. Were any inhuman things like inflicting physical pain, infecting one with a disease, etc done to them just for the sake of seeing how twins would react? You should see what many parents do to their own children to understand what is truly cruel.
The fact that they hid the study from the adoptive parents shows that they know it was morally WRONG to do. It breaks my heart for the lives lost to this awful example of 'science'. They should be ashamed. The least they can do is release the information back to the study participants and inform those who were unknowingly involved before more harm is done. Columbia University should be concerned about having their name involved in this.
They were already bonded in the womb for heavens sake
Omg the twin study had now been sealed until 2065!!! Sick! How is this ethical to withhold the information
Pfizer was trying to seal the you know what shot til 2078....tells a lot
There should be no right to seal this....who had the authority to seal the records...you have siblings missing....cousins affected...generations...
Doesn’t that sound familiar? Pfizer wanted to hide their information for 75 years. What does that tell you why do they have to keep doing freedom of information acts?? It’s a sick world
And how is it lawful to hide and conceal unlawfulness?
There is a law in New York that if an adoptee requests information from the state as to whether they have any siblings, the state HAS to give them that information.
It is only the results on the study that have been sealed.
As a 78 y/o mother of triplet sons, I cannot imagine how this could be condoned.
These twins and triplets felt loss immediately upon separation. Then spent the rest of their childhood and adult life with a sense of something being wrong or missing, but unable to pinpoint exactly what it was. No doubt mental illness can be hereditary, but this experience increases those chances to becoming a sure thing.
They robbed these folks of their natural lives. This is....one of the worst crimes you could ever commit.
I couldn't imagine this happening 😞 I was born a twin. Growing up without her would have been devastating! She died 3.5 years ago, that's hard😢
I am so sorry for your loss Cherie...thank you for sharing that. Sending prayers for you.
One of my best friends lost her twin a few years ago and she’s never been the same 😢 so sorry for your loss.
I agree I think if I grew up without my twin I would be devastated!
I’m so very sorry for your loss.
I'm an Identical Twin & I can't imagine life w/o her!😯👩🦳👩🦳 Soooo-oo Very Sorry for you unimaginable Loss! 🌹❤🌹
I think the separation is really what killed her..... she didn't even know what it was. That breaks my heart, no shatters it. 😢
Ditto!💔
I am an Identical Twin. Two Souls Entwined in Heaven b4 'becoming' on Earth.💞
What a despicable thing to do! My heart broke for these siblings. Terrible this woman was not brought to justice.
It started w/a german scientist in the U.S. & later the woman...🌼
Vengeance is the Lord's.
for some reason the Tuskegee Experiment crossed my mind when I watched this. Sobering.
I guess the results of the many German experiments weren’t enough. We just had to have our own state funded atrocities to refer to.
Eugenics, all of it.
They won't give you the files cause they know they'd get sued
They should sue Yale who is the owner of the materials for damages of loss of life as they carry the torch of the psychotic doctors.
Exactly. And that's why the files are sealed so far into the future - they are hoping the subjects can't sue because they are dead.
It’s unconscionable that they were allowed to ‘seal’ the studies in the first place, let alone refuse to give those they pertain to, access to their own notes. On top of all the horror of separation for the study, to deny those involved access is just plain wrong! Those terrible perpetrators should have been exposed and brought to justice long long ago.
The government covers up for the government! 😮
When something has to be sealed you know whatever it is is probably inflammable and cause whoever has done it great embarrassment.
These twins and triplets met and interacted in their mother's womb, Of course there was someone missing in their adopted lives when separated.
💞 Their Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔💞 There Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
My paternal grandmother was an identical twin. She and her twin sister were vital to the other. It wasn’t just that they loved each other, they had that special connection between them that was unknowable to anyone else who was not an identical twin. They spoke a twin language that was initially thought to their speaking their native Irish to one another. It’s true they did speak Irish fluently all their lives (born in Galway Ireland). But the language they spoke was not Irish. It was their twin language. I heard them speaking it to one another throughout their lives. The didn’t or wouldn’t speak it on demand. But if they were alone together they would lapse into this language that was truly fascinating to hear. They never lived more than five miles apart at any given time and they were happiest when they were neighbors. My grandma and her twin were incredibly special human beings. Knowing how vital their bond was to one another makes this absolutely despicable study that much more obscene and cruel. It makes my heart hurt. What was taken from these innocent children a crime against their personal humanity. Something truly beautiful and deeply meaningful was stolen from these kids. Many of them did not do well once they realized what that gaping hole of loneliness truly was. It makes me just sick and furious that this was done. So tragic. Those smug self important so called scientists don’t seem to have any concern for the damage they did. It’s just sick.
💞 There Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
Damn straight, I am not a twin nor have twins in the family. I do remember going on holiday, there were 2 old ladies who were twins. Had the same moles on the neck at the exact places. If the twins got separated they both panicked and made the same odd noise. They held their drinks the same way, wore same dresses and knitted in synch. Even walked the the same.
I appreciate you sharing this documentary about the research done on human separation experiments involving twins and triplets. It demonstrates unequivocally that humans are not only unprepared but also have a poor understanding of things that they did not create. As a result, they shouldn't attempt to design experiments that will only cause permanent harm that they are unable to comprehend, much less repair or reconcile.
Louise Wise, along with the Freuds were more mentally deranged than those they studied! So sad for the families who lost loved ones due to suicide!
This was the most horrific "experiment" I've ever heard of. They destroyed these men's lives.
Destroyed Many Siblings lives & their families!😢🌹
This was so very cruel....and caused mental and emotional damage, suicide,
It's very sad....😢Horribly cruel.......
Back then terrible, cruel experiments about the nature versus nurture debate were carried out on monkeys - they are heartbreaking to watch. Surely it is obvious that these types of experiments are going to affect the psyche. Some of these so called doctors, are simply, sadistic.
Unconscionable, immoral,unfathomable and not surprising in some ways. Sacrificing whole childhoods In the name of science by narcissistic scientists.Criminal.
That German accent gave me chills. The coldness of his voice and the brutality of his actions. Mengele without the scalpel. Heartless.
So Sad, US government brought so many german scientists here after the War just to begin ruining our lives & the world.😢
Exactly.
Precisely 😢
Austrian accent
@@truthseeker12523
Is the LANGUAGE accent "Austrian" or "German"?
I have a sister in law who didn’t find out she was a twin until she was in her 30’s. Her brother came looking for her. She was adopted and separated from her twin brother in the 50’s. Her adopted parents weren’t told either she had a twin. This is in the U.K. How many others are going around not knowing.
Soooo-oo Many I would expect. Too Many!!😢💔
My heart goes out to the twins and triplets and all of their families!!!!!
The only good thing that came from this crime against humanity is that the adoptive family and parents were lucky enough to know and love these children as their own.
Absolutely gut wrenching what happened to these babies and the families. The Foundation and the current University holding records need to be sued!
I’m a twin and tho I have many siblings. Theres an incredible bond. I speak to my twin on the phone multiple times daily.
Me too! 💞 (...glad we don't pay by the calls or minutes!😉)
💞 Our Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 we came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
A friend of mine was one of twins, sadly his brother died at birth but my friend says he has always felt the loss of his brother 😢
💞 Their Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔💞 There Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
I am not a twin, but this is so aggravating and heartwrenching beyond words. I grew up in the '60s with 3 sets of identical twins in our small neighborhood. I just cant imagine the level of separation anxiety these folks felt without knowing why. Sheesh! And as a health care professional, lying in research continues to this day. It is sickening. Now lying is done to get the almighty dollar from pharma companies (for example, falsified research associated with an "alzheimer's" or "parkinsons" drug-can't remember which one). 😢
...lol
I'm not sure how the researcher can even call this an "experiment" when the data was collected haphazardly and nothing even came of it. It was basically just - abuse? criminal? I'm not sure what word to use.
Sick curiosity in the name of “science”
Evil
@@melissaciswhoibe9183 Yes, evil
Sick. Evil. Heartless. Not enough words.
Ditto! HORRIFIC comes to mind...😢💔
After watching this, I am devastated. It has left me with a deep sorrow.
Same. It touched me deeply.
Same. I have 4 sets of identical twin friends and can’t imagine if this had been done to them. I went from raging to crying watching this.
This was very painful to watch. I did not know that one of the triplets has unalived himself :(
I was sad for the one who lost her sister by the same means and never got to meet her. People can be so cruel. They have no soul or conscience. Sending prayers to all of the survivors of this horrible, tragic and inhumane experiment.
They should at least release the documents and video to the twins, Especially to Paula so she can see her sister via film.
Excellent point!
Very much a Dr Mengele-style study as alluded to by one of the mothers.
You're not wrong!! After WWII, the US brought over dozens of "Nahtzee" scientists to continue twin experiments which were a favorite of Dr. M.
Many were done in secret underground facilities, but these were sociological and psychological experiments, so they needed to use the general public ( well-meaning childless couples). The govt always manipulates the public into volunteering for harmful experiments, and we trustingly play along. 😢
That evil man when interviewed that laughed at one point then kept saying “I don’t want to talk about it “ we’ll tough sxxt
@@jessicahamilton5243💯💯💯
It's all the same thing... Eugenics.
I’m so sorry for these beautiful children that were experimented on at the cost of their mental health and physical health
I feel for these guys. I was never a twin or triplet, but I was adopted and eventually found my bio parents and siblings, so to a tiny degree I understand their experience.
“you separate mother and child all the time, ha ha ha ha” - what a psycho!!!
What has happened to the files now that it’s almost 2024? Additionally, now that genetic DNA testing is common, how many separated twins and triplets have been reunited?
I think one lady found out she has a twin through DNA or the twin hired an investigator to find her. She was also on CNN, I think before they aired the story about the triplets or shortly after it aired
Someone else said they w were sealed until 2065. I suppose Yale has them.
@@suedefringe I heard that too. They need to cancel that and give those folks their records. There's no telling how many more people are missing siblings because of this mess!!
My nieces are twins, I was there when they were born. They are so close, they’re 45, they live 4 houses away from each other, raise their kids together… when they were younger they had a car they shared, worked at the same restaurant, same shifts… I cannot imagine one without the other, they are more than best friends. My husbands twin died at birth and he always felt as though something was missing… I cried watching this, so awful and criminal! My sister and I were 18 months apart and felt like twins- I could not imagine her not having been in my life. Those records need to be opened- NOW, not in 2066!
I'm a twin born in Hong Kong. My parents were so poor and when a rich family wanted to buy me without taking both, my parents said no. They are twins and can't be separated. As poor as they were, they knew it was wrong to separate twins.
Horrifying. Unconscionable. Once again, malevolent "science."
Family connections are the most beautiful thing ever.
This story breaks my heart.
So sad this was heart breaking. I glad for those who were reconnected. They should pay for this.
They all have her blood on their hands. And probably countless other lives as well. This is infuriating!
Illegal, immoral, wrong.
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This is beyond weird. The so called expert psychologist didn't even follow her own rules about not separating twins even when they saw the interactions and documented the children's frustration. You don't need to be an expert to know head banging etc isn't normal behavior
I’m a 53 year old woman with a twin brother, not being identical I know we don’t have the same identical twin connection, but we were very close growing up, so it breaks my heart to hear of these twins who were robbed of a childhood with their twin (and in that one case, triplets, and it was clearly so devastating for 2 of them that they died by suicide) this makes me want to go hang out with my twin this weekend…
I was adopted in the 60s and if I found this had happened to me... whoa betide that government. Absolutely vile. So sad 😢
Unfathomable! Why do humans feel justified to mess with creation, with humanity as found in creation? The study data indicated by twin behaviors, the harm the separation was causing, but nothing was done to rectify the wrong! Simply unconscionable! Heartbreaking. Thank you for sharing this information. It's important to be reminded how far we can fall, if we insist on hanging out at the cliff's edge in the dark.
Only pure evil would separate siblings.
This is an excellent documentary.
If you liked this documentary (even though it’s weird to say ‘like’ about such a heartbreaking topic), may I recommend the book “The Memory Keepers Daughter” by Kim Edwards. It’s a fictional story set in the same time period as these twins would’ve been born. A snowed-in doctor is forced to deliver his own wife’s twins and, upon realizing one of the children has Down Syndrome, he makes the decision to have a nurse quietly take the child to an institution to be raised. He tells the wife only baby survived. Her anguish and his guilt begin to take a toll on their marriage. The story is over the course of 25 years and follows the lives of both twins as they live separately and endure the consequences of their separation. It’s one of my favorites and I couldn’t stop thinking about it whilst watching this.
This is the saddest thing I’ve watched in a long time. These poor children. How unfair and unjust to do this and for the so called researchers to seal the documents was criminal!
This is something that just watching and learning about is going to stay with me forever. Those babies knew and loved each other and grew up missing each other without knowing what was missing.
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Is this Roxy Johnson from Renton High School??
@@roxiejohnson6813💞 Their Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
it's crazy they even choose similar looking and mannered wives
There were more weird things that you can't possibly image to have a genetic component, like the naming of their dogs, type of car they drove.
There was another twin study where 2 twins (both named Jim by their adoptive parents) built a round bench around a tree in their front yards on the same weekend--- years before they met.
Poor Paula and Marjorie
I really feel for Marjorie's adoptive parent too
Deplorable. If it had been me my anger would never leave me. Those records should all be opened right NOW. So many sweet lives affected.
So disturbing and heartbreaking.
I’m an identical twin. I could NEVER imagine why people would believe separating twins could be beneficial to the twins. Non- twins cannot understand this connection. Why not just ask twins with their knowledge?
This is really heartbreaking 💔 😢
Evil people doing evil deeds to these children.
Evil peoples. Hmm. They really do evil things but were they evil? How about pilots who drop atom bomb to Hiroshima? How about pilots and soldiers who join illegal war in Iraq and kill THOUSANDS of innocent civilians? It is so easy to say that evil people does evil things but I'm quite sure that you wouldn't dare to say straight to the face of the soldier who is responsible for launching the nuclear missile that evil people are committing mass murders with nuclear weapons. That he/she is a murderer, evil person, ready to murder millions of innocent people. There is monsters within human beings but usually evil is just banal things we people do. We follow orders, eat meat, use aeroplanes, don't want to pay taxes and help unknown poor people.
No...pure evil has evil intentions...there were no evil intentions here just misguided science.
I was born at Pensacola naval hospital in June of 1965 and know, now, in my soul, I have an identical twin. I spent most of my childhood in Indiana, and moved to Florida, on my own, at age 18. I was approached by far too many strangers, believing me to be someone else. I almost got to see her as she spoke with my manager about a job. Years later, married, and with children., we were going to Pensacola . I called my mother to get an address of where we used to live. She said she didn’t know, other than it was on Hwy. 10. My parents left Florida when I was 2, maybe 3, so memories were in short supply. By the grace of God, I found the place and the owners were the same and remembered my parents . They asked which one I was and I told them I was the middle of the my two sisters. They asked, “What have they told you? What do you know?” I was confused at their sudden alarm and told them I don’t understand. Then they abruptly went back inside, saying I needed to leave. It was weird. Then to make it even weirder, my mother leaves Indiana for Pensacola. I called to tell her about the experience, but had to find out from my sister where she was. Later, mom asked if I visited the hospital, which I had not, and still have not to this day. That’s when everything started making sense to me. My father had deceased and my mother was a very closed book. I never had a loving relationship with my mom, as a child. It was better for my sisters. I remember dad yelling at mom, “Why do you love her?” I was a loner and always felt something was missing. My dad’s mother told me I had braces on my legs as a babe, as they were bowed. I understand this can be common in multiple birth pregnancies. My mom conveniently remembers nothing about my birth, and gets very angry when asked about those early years. I’ve lived in NC for 25 years now and the near misses of seeing her have continued. A friend said she spent the day with my twin at the Biltmore. My look alike was seeking advice on a gardening project for her 3 homeschooled boys. I have 3 boys, love gardening, and homeschooled. My friend did not know of my predicament and how I wished I had told her. She said she could find no difference in us and that she lives in Indiana and her name is Christina. Another friend who goes hunting in Indiana, stopped at a store south of Brown County and said that he saw me. He thought I was visiting family there but I didn’t. I didn’t want anyone to think I was crazy, so I haven’t told but a few about this. I believe my mom put my twin up for adoption without my dad’s blessing. My grandma, now deceased, put hints in her letters about twins, as twins run in the family. Why all the secrets? I hate the technology world and therefore never put myself out there to find her. I am hoping my Lord and Savior would just make it happen if it’s right, as she may not know she is adopted. Did our military do these twin studies as well?
I'm praying for you ❤
I am a fraternal twin, and we've been separated at the age of 4. She had a really bad siezure that caused brain damage. At that age. I am now her guardian.
So sad 😞 glad some of them have been reunited ❤
Genetics are incredible, nurture is important too but nature is very powerful
They are both extremely powerful. Spitz experiments show the other side of the coin.
What a diabolical study to conduct on innocent babies, their parent’s and extended family members - this documentary made me so angry and it didn’t happen to me. There must be some way to compensate these families- I know it’s too late for some - it’s a travesty 😢
That was terrible of them to do this. Nobody has a right to experiment with someone elses life.
That poor lady and one of the triplets committed suicide. 😢😢😢😢
In the 60s and early 70s psychiatrist and doctors played with a lot of people it’s horrifying to think that another human being would want to control as much as some of these doctors did absolutely horrifying
Unfortunately 'Some' Dr's think/thought they were gods😮...
Unfortunately they have continued doing so to this day
This is such a tragic tale, those poor guys 😢
Thanking GOD I grew up with all of my siblings, biological parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins.
To many of us take this for granted.
orphanage is also separated children, even when families were willing to take more than one child, they would lie to them, and say all the other children were adopted out to different families when actuality they were in the orphanage still. How do I know it? I was one of them.
I feel so deeply for the parents and children this was just not fair to anyone involved....I am so sorry you all had to go thru that. sending love and prayers to all.....
My prayers go out to all of these innocent lives. I hope you will find solice in knowing one day our Heavenly Father will make all things new❤
I’m a triplet and my heart just breaks for all of them who were torn apart. Seeing the damage to the point that two of them committed suicide is soul crushing and most definitely someone needs to be held accountable for this evil! My prayers for the twins and triplets and their families 🙏🏻♥️
So very upsetting..
Twins and triplets know there's something missing.
How dare the agency do that when they wrote that the children were rocking, sad etc.. they know right away it wasn't working.
💞 Their Souls were Coupled Together in Heaven even b4 they came into being on Earth! I am an Identical Twin and from how we are, we're 💯 percent sure of this. 👩🦳💞👩🦳 So Very Sad for the loss of All Multiple Siblings.😢💔
This is one of the most tragic event I have ever listened to. How sad for those involved in this inhumane separation. In utero developing and hugging into each other. They are human beings. This sort of catastrophe is abominable. These twins and triples suffered loneliness and lost their inherited bonding when separated knowing deep inside “ something” was missing from their lives.
This is heartbreaking. My husband is an identical twin and the relationship that he and his brother have is the most precious amazing relationship I’ve ever witnessed. I feel blessed being privy to it because it’s so cool. They were each others rock their entire lives, I can’t imagine how devastating it would be for them to have been separated like the ones in this documentary 😢
It definitely was and criminal taking advantage of childless parents and the children themselves especially as they knew it would traumatise both twins forever.
They were together in the womb, how much more attachment. Evil doctor may she pay for what she did and the lives she took😢
Especially the ones who committed suicides... that speaks volumes! Those people's had NO WRITE to make the CHOICES that they did...🤔❤
That raises ethical concerns. Nobody should have such power of dictating how one must be raised or else. Cruel experiment on mammals and humans.
This is so heartbreaking. Twins had such a special bond and during those dark days experimenting on People was like eating a pie. It seems that much harm has been was done. I hope someday all those separated twins can be reunited before they departed Earth. Very strong, emotional, and well done Documentary.
Now that its 2024 does anyone know of the documents realeased in 2021 as it said?
Locked until 2065 now according to google.
@@AmandaSharp-vl4zyby that time 51:27 y that time everone will be dead so there will be nobody to sue any one