What's the rest of the system besides adcom 555? I'm using b& w matrix 802 series 3 as well but my bass drivers don't have that silver around each driver? Mine are all black. We're these drivers replaced? Thanks for the video! I use mine with a adcom gfp750 preamp, enlightened audio designs dsp-9000 pro series 3 dac (highly modded) along with a enlightened audio designs power master 2000 115 lb beast. Also rotate in a ead dsp 7000 series 3 dac and sad signature pre/pro. Still delivers effortless glorious music as it did in the late 90s and early 2000s !
Traded some old equipment for those, tweeters were blown and speakers disassembled. Trim rings on woofers are missing. They now sound good, need a little love.
I was going to say the same thing. One thing I discovered is that on regular redbook CDs the EAD series 2 DACs sound better than series 3 DACs. This is due to the pm100 filter chip. This was also the case with any DAC that used that filter chip. Decades later only one manufacturer has discovered the same thing I did, so they did something to their DAC to bypass the HDCD chip when playing back non HDCD discs. Additionally, I owned the flagship Matrix 800s back in 1991 which I used to hear this degradation by the HDCD filter chip. They were high resolution speakers. Even though your preamp made Stereophile Class A one year my friends and I found it to sound like Class C (no offense). I guess you use the 9000 without preamp? Anyway, happy listening!
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt thanks for your thoughts on your experience with b&w speakers and ead dacs. I honestly don't put ,uch stock in the stereophile ratings. It's more of a overall easement from many sources. So it's just a single review. I can't speak for newer preamps but my adcom gfp750 with either the dap 7000 series 3 or the dap 9000 pro series 3 has shown me every change in my system over many years. I have tried the 9000 direct into my amp and it's ok but every thing gets better when using a preamp. I don't have my experience with the older series 2 ead dacs. My 9000 is not a standard stock one. It has been highly modified by the original designers. They also offer more upgrades I think as well. It's full of black gate caps and things to lower the digital noise floor and upgraded output stage as well. At first I wasn't to found of the upgrades but after the caps fully broke in (took many hours) it will compete with most great dacs of today for Redbook. I've heard some dealers put ead dacs up against some of dcs stuff. I wouldn't know as I don't have much experience with dcs. Not bad to be me mentioned from a dealer that carries and has seen everything roll through their showroom. Was your experience just with the dacs in ead CD players ? Or from their stand alone 1000, 7000, 9000 series dacs ? Thanks for sharing your experience. I bet those b&w matrix 800s were terrific! Those definately need a good sized room !
@@brandonburr4900 I had the EAD 9000 and 7000. The 7000 was a series 1 upgraded to the series 2 with the PCM 63K chips. I knew the distributor and several other dealers so I also had free access to much gear the instant they were released. I believe it may have been moon that just a few years ago allowed the bypass of the PM 100 HDCD filter. Note the filter only negatively affected the reg red book and not the HDCD discs. Eli Gershman, a few weeks later also noted the degraded sound quality caused by the filter. At the time there were only a handful of HDCDs so series 3 upgrade was never a thing with me, in light of the degraded sound. While the series 2 was a huge step up from series 1, I still found the EAD DACs to sound smooth with a somewhat slow, full,but slightly woolly bass (9000 much better than 7000). At the time I preferred the Spectral SDR DAC and the top Theta DAC. Something to note about the matrix 800 series speakers was that initially B&W included the bass filter with the speakers but shortly afterwards it became an option at an additional $250 CDN charge. With the Matrix 800 the bass filter put a veiled haze over the midrange although it did wonders for the bass. Krell made a semi prototype that was much better at not screwing up the midrange and i was able to obtain one. Do you use a B&W bass alignment filter with your 802s?
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt you mean moon audio? I believe moon audio had some rebadged ead eos theaters masters called legacy or stagnate back in the day? I'm fortunate with ead as they were far from me and in same state so I got to go visit, hang out and demo and pickup gear I purchased in the late nineties. Went back there to have older stuff serviced and upgraded through Nobel electronics that is still here. Some of the same designers at Nobel after they became alpha digital when they were purchase by tata labs in the early 2000a. I wonder what process they used to bypass the hdcd chip? Funny you mention the base alignment filters on the 800 series speakers. I didn't get the b&w ones. I purchasd a pair of golden flute base alignment filters specifically for my 802s. I head no such problems with the midrange on mine. The company that made them was abyss headphone parent company before they made headphones and made those and cable upgrades. I have seen the krells pop up for sale very rare. They was another company I think that made them called anodyne or something?
I have the same amp. I heard the amp does not have speaker protection. What is the best way to protect my speakers, playing it on low volume?
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What's the rest of the system besides adcom 555? I'm using b& w matrix 802 series 3 as well but my bass drivers don't have that silver around each driver? Mine are all black. We're these drivers replaced? Thanks for the video! I use mine with a adcom gfp750 preamp, enlightened audio designs dsp-9000 pro series 3 dac (highly modded) along with a enlightened audio designs power master 2000 115 lb beast. Also rotate in a ead dsp 7000 series 3 dac and sad signature pre/pro. Still delivers effortless glorious music as it did in the late 90s and early 2000s !
Traded some old equipment for those, tweeters were blown and speakers disassembled. Trim rings on woofers are missing. They now sound good, need a little love.
I was going to say the same thing. One thing I discovered is that on regular redbook CDs the EAD series 2 DACs sound better than series 3 DACs. This is due to the pm100 filter chip. This was also the case with any DAC that used that filter chip. Decades later only one manufacturer has discovered the same thing I did, so they did something to their DAC to bypass the HDCD chip when playing back non HDCD discs. Additionally, I owned the flagship Matrix 800s back in 1991 which I used to hear this degradation by the HDCD filter chip. They were high resolution speakers. Even though your preamp made Stereophile Class A one year my friends and I found it to sound like Class C (no offense). I guess you use the 9000 without preamp? Anyway, happy listening!
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt thanks for your thoughts on your experience with b&w speakers and ead dacs. I honestly don't put ,uch stock in the stereophile ratings. It's more of a overall easement from many sources. So it's just a single review. I can't speak for newer preamps but my adcom gfp750 with either the dap 7000 series 3 or the dap 9000 pro series 3 has shown me every change in my system over many years. I have tried the 9000 direct into my amp and it's ok but every thing gets better when using a preamp. I don't have my experience with the older series 2 ead dacs. My 9000 is not a standard stock one. It has been highly modified by the original designers. They also offer more upgrades I think as well. It's full of black gate caps and things to lower the digital noise floor and upgraded output stage as well. At first I wasn't to found of the upgrades but after the caps fully broke in (took many hours) it will compete with most great dacs of today for Redbook. I've heard some dealers put ead dacs up against some of dcs stuff. I wouldn't know as I don't have much experience with dcs. Not bad to be me mentioned from a dealer that carries and has seen everything roll through their showroom. Was your experience just with the dacs in ead CD players ? Or from their stand alone 1000, 7000, 9000 series dacs ? Thanks for sharing your experience. I bet those b&w matrix 800s were terrific! Those definately need a good sized room !
@@brandonburr4900 I had the EAD 9000 and 7000. The 7000 was a series 1 upgraded to the series 2 with the PCM 63K chips. I knew the distributor and several other dealers so I also had free access to much gear the instant they were released. I believe it may have been moon that just a few years ago allowed the bypass of the PM 100 HDCD filter. Note the filter only negatively affected the reg red book and not the HDCD discs. Eli Gershman, a few weeks later also noted the degraded sound quality caused by the filter. At the time there were only a handful of HDCDs so series 3 upgrade was never a thing with me, in light of the degraded sound. While the series 2 was a huge step up from series 1, I still found the EAD DACs to sound smooth with a somewhat slow, full,but slightly woolly bass (9000 much better than 7000). At the time I preferred the Spectral SDR DAC and the top Theta DAC.
Something to note about the matrix 800 series speakers was that initially B&W included the bass filter with the speakers but shortly afterwards it became an option at an additional $250 CDN charge. With the Matrix 800 the bass filter put a veiled haze over the midrange although it did wonders for the bass. Krell made a semi prototype that was much better at not screwing up the midrange and i was able to obtain one. Do you use a B&W bass alignment filter with your 802s?
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt you mean moon audio? I believe moon audio had some rebadged ead eos theaters masters called legacy or stagnate back in the day? I'm fortunate with ead as they were far from me and in same state so I got to go visit, hang out and demo and pickup gear I purchased in the late nineties. Went back there to have older stuff serviced and upgraded through Nobel electronics that is still here. Some of the same designers at Nobel after they became alpha digital when they were purchase by tata labs in the early 2000a. I wonder what process they used to bypass the hdcd chip? Funny you mention the base alignment filters on the 800 series speakers. I didn't get the b&w ones. I purchasd a pair of golden flute base alignment filters specifically for my 802s. I head no such problems with the midrange on mine. The company that made them was abyss headphone parent company before they made headphones and made those and cable upgrades. I have seen the krells pop up for sale very rare. They was another company I think that made them called anodyne or something?
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The speakers are too close to the wall in the back. If you move them forward they will provide great soundstage imaging
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These vintage spks sound surprisingly good here. Don’t recall em sounding this good when i heard em in the 80s.
They are pretty good, sound so much better, more detail with the rogue cronus