Englishman Reacts to... Ireneusz Krosny & MozART group - The Conductor
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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Yes, Rob, "not speaking" is the entire point of a mime performance.
How come you don't get it? Body language is also a type of language. You'll learn someday. :)
@@Evelyn_8888 You just showed lack of any good education or taste and a mind openness of a can with dog food. Congratulations!👏👏👏
Tak już jest, że jednym się podoba, a innym nie i ja toleruję fakt, że masz prawo wybierać inne formy ekspresji i przekazywania emocji, które do ciebie docierają ! Pokój twej duszy !
@@rabarbarsodko-kwasny3865 Ciekawa Twoja teść napisana. Konkretna i zarazem zabawna. Nie wiem tylko, co ma piernik do wiatraka?
Mimo wszystko ok :)
@@VxDamagExV Jeśli ogarniesz procesy logiczne i związki przyczynowo skutkowe, wiele tego typu zagadnień przestanie być niezrozumiałymi ! Zachęcam do wytężonej pracy, jeśli brakuje inteligencji ! Zapewniam, warto się wysilić, chociaż niektórym nieświadomość zapewnia spokój duszy, dajmy na to idiotom, imbecylom, ułomnym i niektórym alkoholikom...!
Rozbawił całą publiczność? Rozbawił. Publiczność czuła że jest częściom występu? Czuła. Najważniejsze, że się publiczności wtedy podobało, nie każdy lubi Mimów, klauni też raczej bawią tylko dzieci, a dorośli ich nie lubią. Skoro Rob nie lubi Mimów to na siłę go nie przekonacie. Made the whole audience laugh? Made me laugh. Did the audience feel like they were part of the performance? She was tender. The most important thing is that the audience liked it back then, not everyone likes Mimes, clowns also only entertain children and adults don't like them. If Rob doesn't like Mimes, you won't be able to convince him.
Gdyby wybrał,, Historię Tańca" Syzyfa-może by zmienił zdanie .Wybiera jak na złość i widać wyrażnie że nie czuje tych klimatów
@@user-yr4hf7nr6h Może to jest ta granica pomiędzy Polskim, a Angielskim humorem?
Ale ten automatyczny tłumacz to cię zawiódł. Poprawnie:
"Did he make the whole audience laugh? Yes, he did. Did the audience feel like they were part of the performance? Yes. they did."
Reszta jest OK.
@@MikrySoft Nic na to nie poradzę
@@m44g5 Zawsze możesz w przyszłości używać np ChatGPT do tłumaczenia, wynik był praktycznie taki jak moje ręczne tłumaczenie. Ludzie polecają też DeepL, ale wynik (na przykładzie tego tekstu) był dość kulawy, ale przynajmniej było to tłumaczenie całego tekstu, a nie każdego zdania z osobna z utratą kontekstu tak jak to zrobił tłumacz Google (np. czuła -> she was tender -> ona była czuła. Formalnie poprawnie ale w kontekście jest bez sens)
To jest numer Krosnego, więc grupa MoCarta nie bardzo mogła to zrobić bez niego. To nie on tu coś dodaje, a oni.
Some levels of humour aren't for everyone...
And I think it would be better to do some research before watching "The Conductor" if one doesn't know what conductor does.
On the Polish Cabaret Stage, a mime from France performed a few years ago. And while it was clear that he was very talented, his performance didn't entertain me at all, I didn't find it funny and I didn't really understand what he was trying to show.
Although Ireneusz Krosny has not achieved international fame, he has performed in many countries in Europe, Asia and America.
In one interview, Ireneusz Krosny said that when performing in other countries, he has to adapt the performance to the culture of the country. He said he had to use different gestures, facial expressions and behavior patterns so that audiences in the country could understand him.
You watched his performance for a Polish audience. You don't know Polish culture, mentality or behavioral models well. It was clear from your reaction that you put a lot of effort into trying to understand what was so funny and interesting about the show. What was immediately understandable to the average Pole, you were baffled by. The show was built on non-verbal messages. And non-verbal communication is not only body language, facial expressions, but also elements related to the environment, that is, in the case of a live performance, related to the audience.
It was a show for Polish people, and you are English. And as you can see, you don't understand the Polish people very much yet? But do you even try to understand...?
You watching anything from Krosny is basically a giant Wooooooosh moment. I have never witnesed someone missing any joke of the show so much.
What I don't get is how you have some wonderful reactions to a lot of stuff, you make more or less thorough research and it's sucha a pleasure to watch it I watch some of it multiple times and can't get enough of your comments.
And then I see a video like this or like about Polish Anthem, full of ignorance where you didn't even bother to read anything about the subject. I'm very disappointed because I expected so much more and I was really happy seeing you made a video reaction to one of the best sketches I've seen.
Same! I could watch Rob's reactions to Legendy Polskie and some of cabarets over and over again. But I know I won't watch this one again.
I guess I'll wait for some other reaction hoping it will hit right.
For me Krosny is great performer, it is not easy to get mime perfromance of this type. Sometimes scetch can be simple but funny and you really need to pay attention to all his movment becouse he plan all of it, so if you don't you can miss a joke :) . Plus one thing to be mindfull some recordings are part of bigger show so this also affect that not all part hard-core laughs.
It turns out that Poles and the British have different sens of humor. Notice how much fun the audience had. I think this is one of the best performances of the Mozart Group and Krosny.
and in my opinion, its not about the British or Polish sense of humor at all, but about the individual sense of humor, many people, when they come to such a performance and even if they don't like it, they "put on a face brave",thats how it is....
I wouldn't generalize this way. I don't think this is a cultular difference between countries. I saw Ireneusz doing that skit to a french audience and they were all lauging and clapping as well. In my opinion it may be related to something called "reduced attention span" ("gen Z" research shows that some representatives only have couple of seconds of it).
But also mind the difference between being there live and sitting in front of screen.
I think this was not actually a sketch, but a fun with the audience. Krosny is a legend of polish cabaret, his performences always make me laugh. I understand you don't like him, but i think if you give him a second chance you will not be dissapointed. I recommend "A prison escape" or "Matura". The most famous is "The evolution of dance", but it is more skillful than fanny, although i always laugh when i watch this. :)
Yeah, youre right, i think rob is naysay krosny n it is the problem
Krosny is a legend of Polish cabaret. Maybe even bigger than the Mozart Group. He certainly started cabaret with the Mozart Group.
A conductor keeps things in order - he encourages the musicians to follow some interpretation of the piece, if anyone gets lost, he shows the rhythm, and there are many more things that a conductor does, e.g., he conducts rehearsals - someone has to... I am a conductor so at the first glance this role might be considered unnecessary but it is necessary.
Try best of Ani Mru Mru. Ani Mru Mru - Tofik
First time i will dislike. How you can don't get it and and Say that's cheap and simple.
cause it is😖
You can find more but shortly: a conductor is responsible for the pace of whole orchestra (or quartet) or choir so he also makes sure everybody is synced, he decides about the interpretation and dynamics (how loud or quiet they play) and might even suggest change of technique (of course that suggestion happens during rehearsal, not suddenly in live performance but still it's shown by the conductor).
That's why there are many famous conductors that people fight for tickets to their concerts to experience the performance :)
Krosny and MocArt are on the same - high -level of sense of smart humor.
Rob I will tell you if something is rubbish and that was rubbish. I dont know what your comments have added to the original video today 😉. I know Mozart group did add something though to Ireneusz performance. But thanks for trying. All the best!
Nie można dyskutować z poczuciem humoru - każdy ma inne. Jednak trudno zaprzeczyć temu, że jednym z narzędzi komediowych jest "poczucie wyższości", które tutaj jest użyte i do tego użyte ze smakiem - nikogo nie atakuje się personalnie, nikt nie powinien się poczuć źle potraktowany. Czy to tanie? Tak! Jednak komedia na takich tanich chwytach operuje (jakby się przyjrzeć mówionym skeczom, to tam też jest dużo korzystania z "poczucia wyższości" - przykładowo skecz neonówki, który oglądałeś, gdzie z króla zrobili głupka. Dla mnie tamto było tanie.)
mimefobia ?
Has Rob started listening to my suggestions?
There are still " Historia tańca " ( "History of Dance" ), " Masażysta " ( "The Masseur") , Machina czasu ( "The Time Machine",) " Młody kierowca ( "The Young Driver" ).
Well the most funny thing about mr Krosny is his mimic. It’s very like old polish dad will look like: “everything wrong, everything he will do better than you etc” + use audience which also at first part is lazy and looks like “what am I doing here” Also this performance is laughing at polish stereotypes that we really like to compare with each other
Rob, Benny Hill was ridiculous. U R Brit and that's it mate.
Hello Rob, Unfortunately, Janusz Rewiński, one of the best Polish comedy and cabaret actors, died recently. If you can, please comment on one of his skits.
It turns out that there are two sketches titled "Dyrygent" ("The Conductor") and the one above is rather average/weak. To find the great one (IMO), you need to search for: "Grupa MoCarta DYRYGENT" - it is on the "grupamocarta" channel, lasts 5:54. The skit is of poorer technical quality.
"Grupa MoCarta" is the old name of the quartet "MozART group", btw the old name is a linguistic play on words - "grupa mo carta" is in other words "the group has a devil" said in some rural dialect (mo = ma (has); cart = czart = diabeł (devil)).
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Thanks for being honest. You don't have to like everything. :)
That was Krosny's number originally - Mozarts were just guests - maybe original version you'll find more funny, even if you can expect what's gonna happend. :)
I understand it might not be in your taste but I thought you liked improvisation, I mean I absolutely love how he controls the crowd and adapts to it's reaction (one side more lethargic and slow to react) In my opinion his facial expressions and gestures and quick reflexes are spot on and I think he is very talented to control the skit so flawlessly as he did here. But I appreciate your reaction, not everyone likes mimes :D Thanks for the video I could finally rewatch it after such a long time! ❤
I can't believe that you don't know what a conductor does :) Anyway, this conductor conducts literally everything :) In Poland we say that someone "conducts others"" or "conducts everything", and it is witty, as an idiom, and at the same time a pejorative term for a person, who wants too much to control everyone and everything, gives orders, and wants everything to be the way he wants it. I think that the audience from the very beginning caught all the jokes related to the conductor understood much more broadly than simply the funny orchestra conductor.
My mood immediately improved, im going to watch a movie :)
I was at Krosny live performance few years ago. It was non stop 2 hours of laughing. I was on few cabaretes and non of them was even close to him. I think this kind of humor is much better live.
You really should watch their version of the sketch when the conductor is hungover. SO FUNNY!
if you don't get this, maybe you'll get the New Year's concert from the same group. It might appear to you more @Rob
It is a matter of different sense of humour. This is not my best video but still I can easily understand people who were there had a lot of fun.
"The Conductor" was made for stage audience, as you can see by the laughter. It's not really good you saw this before any other of their skits, which actually do show their talent. I think you should try to give Krosny with Mozart Group another chance. Try the "Gramophone" ("Gramofon") or the "Burglary" ("Włamanie"). The "Gramophone" might be slow in the beginning, but later on it speeds up 🙂 The "Burglary" is, no shocker, about suspence, and they are doing it really well. There's also another "concert" type of skit, but with an added value of it taking place after New Year's Eve, but maybe save that one for the end 🙃
I see this mime thing isn't for you
I had a few laughs and it wasn't that boring for me
Good you have your own perspective, moving on
You really don't get it. As you can see people are laughing😅
Robcio, out of curiosity I sent this performance to my brothers and a few friends and they all said it was trash
🤣
It was fun for the audience present, but not for people who don't participate in it. Respect for your genuine reaction!!!
so no for me either, i dont know the guy at all, no... its not my sense of humor, his performance... youre right, honesty and courage are beautiful virtues, unfortunately instead of being admired, they are destroyed by mean people ....but there are always a handful of people in this world who "bring light" and even though there are fewer of them, their power is stronger, because love always wins in the end
I immediately remembered the movie "Braveheart", William Wallace was an amazing man (i have probably read every book about him in the world), he was honest, brave, true, he was an amazing character for the times he lived in, he only wanted to bring justice and good and how many enemies he had... it was the same with Jesus (i think he was an amazing, good man, not God) religion came up with this... Jesus didnt do anything bad to anyone... nothing!! and what did they do to him?...i have extraordinary respect for honest and brave people, for me these are the most beautiful virtues in the world... and nothing impresses me more in a man than goodness and courage...
Mimes are not for you and that's it. Nothing wrong with that.
As for the gag/sketch at beginning, it's all about the fact that one of the players was his favorite, and he disliked the other and gave him the least "applause".
As for the conductor and what he does - it's pretty funny, because of him that there is emotion in the music. Because what if the notes exist, as they only convey tones. A conductor guides the orchestra by interpreting the score, ensuring cohesive timing, dynamics, and expression among the musicians. They provide visual cues for tempo, entrances, and changes in the music, facilitating synchronization. The conductor's deep understanding of the music helps bring out the intended emotional and technical nuances. Their presence unifies the ensemble, allowing for a more precise and expressive performance.
You should check out "Matura" or "Prison Break" by Krosny. But i wouldn't say this one was cheap. As far as I am concerned Krosny performed in France as well and the audience found this sketch hillarious. What's more Mozart group was not a part of the orginial skit so it's actually them who serve as the addition and the background. Maybe it's just not your type of humour.
Try Polish kabaret "Smile" 😉
High level of humour❤ Not for everyone. Keep learning.Your knowledge about Poland is amazing.Cong... to Southampton .Back to Premier League. Try interview with with Jan Bednarek.
for me, an embarrassingly low level of humor🙄
HOW IT IS POSSIBILE TO MISS THE JOKE 🤯 Rob, I admire your videos but come on 💀
If it were set in the times of communism and treated as an allusion, people would laugh much more (but they still had fun because they understood the context about "conductors" and "social engineers" sent to Poland by Russia and ridiculed by Poles). Context is important
I don't know how you can not understand it. The movement and gestures are understandable to every nationality. You just have to look carefully and show some patience. Right from the beginning you ask why he doesn't like him... Sorry, but it's obvious.
Poszukaj programu Mocarta "dziki zachód".
Check "Gramofon", the best collab.
I also never got the phenomenon of Krosny but people have different sense of humour. Public seems to have fun so it's fine
hey, its just that I have to defend the weaker (like Robin Hood haha), just cant stand injustice, cant watch someone hurt, my heart is too soft for that, besides, im an altruist, which is the opposite of selfishness.
This is Pantonima not mim Rob
But he is a mime artist
A artysta zajmujący się pantomimą to jak się nazywa?
Pantomime, not "pantonima". )
Po polsku pantomima, stąd "mim".
But mime is a person who does pantomime, I think
I think the issue here is Rob meant mixing a mime (a person) with classical music and author of this comment is talking about pantomime (a type of performance) mixed with classical music - so it seemed incorrect but the intention was just different.
I fully agree with you Rob, this one is not very entertaining. Actually, in my opinion most performances by Polish comedians are pretty simple - they are based around some basic concept and not very creative. The best example of that is the infamous "chłop przebrany za babę" (man dressed as a woman) trope - it's overused and usually consists of just some generic stereotypical jokes about women. But you can't really argue about the method, because they are very popular and beloved by a wider audience. And to be fair, basically every comedian has more creative and truly hilarious skits- I remember some performances of Ireneusz Krosny during which i was giggling uncontrollably.
Do not generalize, because you're making yourself ridiculous (although you probably don't know why
@@alh6255 Thank you for your input, I will in fact generalize even more and make myself supremely ridiculous (never knowing why)
I don't get it why some people here in the comments think that Rob MUST like every single video just because it's a Polish and his channel has mostly Polish content. Ireneusz Krosny is not for everyone, imagine that. I'm glad that Rob doesn't make forced comments and admires every video, just because his viewers are Poles. However, if you don't like Pantomime, maybe it's better not to watch it at all, 'cause you'll probably never like it anyway, and it can only piss you off more 😝You either like this type of art or you don't.
Let's be honest, it's no Puff the magic Dragon! 😉
good comment!😊brawo ty
Można się domyśleć dlaczego podsuwają ci numery z Krosnym- bo nie trzeba tłumaczyć 🤪🤪 Ale jest wiele o niebo lepszych kabaretów .
i don't like Krosny, for dozens of years, but... his collabs with MozArt's are going kinda sideaways from both sides pf creation of humour. in this collab, this thin you didn't understood was pure about you didn;t understood :D just in psychological way. 'crowd control' my dear :D audience waas wawre of this, you were not :D in fact, Krosny just going to be obvious mostly with MozArts :D
Robert wybierasz najbardziej idiotyczne skecze do komentowania które nikogo nie śmieszą są żenujące
mow za siebie
I'm with you, Rob. While I can't deny Mr. Krosny's skill in pantomime (he has some genuinely impressive skits), he's never really done it for me either. At best I chuckle at one moment in the whole sketch (like the elevator in the knight one you reacted to earlier), at worst I fall asleep.
But to each their own. Personally I really like KMN and AMM and I know a lot of people even in my direct circles who can't stand their styles. Heck, even Monty Python has haters which is something I'll never comprehend. That's the beauty of comedy, though. There's something for everyone there if you just look for it. No point forcing yourself to watch something you don't personally enjoy.
Also, I appreciate your honesty, while it can give you some heat in the comments (as I'm already witnessing), you're at least frank with your viewers even if your opinion isn't the most popular one. There's all too many youtubers that bent backwards against their true selves just to keep the audience happy at all times and then everyone's so surprised when once in the blue moon the creator shares their real thoughts on something.
So, yeah, stick to the cabarets that make YOU laugh. Everyone shall have a good time with the video then. After all, a reaction video to a certain cabaret tends to predominantly grab the attention of said cabaret's biggest fans above anyone else.
I'm with you both too! for me it was a disaster!!💙💙💜
I also wrote a completely honest comment that for me it was a total crap and the hyenas attacked very quickly😳
Rob, after all, is the last somewhat popular mime, and we need to take care of him, pet and make him live as long as possible
oj chyba jestes uprzedzony do Krosnego Rob! daj na luz, moze to kwestia tego ze nas Polaków bawia jego wystepy a Ciebie niekoniecznie! pozdrawiam serdecznie
I hope youre okay, i stayed at home, didnt go anywhere, don't know what happened to these people, but these mean people were so shocking... but theyre wrong, this show was crap...
Coś ty znowu odkopał? 😂😂😂😂😂
Trust me Rob i like your job but These cabarets haven't made us laugh for a long time in Poland, they're boring🤮. GM and Krosny could have been funny 20 years ago. Now it sucks. GM hasn't made us laugh for a long time, so don't bother reacting to it. These cabarets are not timeless like KMM or AMM and many other really serious and noteworthy ones. You won't have coverage on these cabarets because no one has watched it for a long time
Grumpy grandpa
Nothing that comes from Poland is rubbish... well, except for football ;)
LOL, jaki konduktor? XD Konduktor to w pociągu bilety sprawdza. To jest dyrygent, a nie żaden konduktor xDDDDDD
a wiesz może jak jest dyrygent po angielsku???
@@Piotrek4500 A kto to przyszedł? Pan maruda. Niszczyciel dobrej zabawy, pogromca uśmiechów dzieci.
@@Panjuchas1
O jakiej "zabawie" mówisz?
Wysokich lotów dowcip, uśmiałam się jak norka.
@@Panjuchas1 a kto to przyszedł, pan heheszek, niszczyciel intelektów ludzi, pół człowiek pół ameba
For me it"s also not funny. I don't know where is the joke here. It's more like pathetic than funny.
It was recorded some time ago. Now it is not funny anymore indeed.
If you want to do some crowd work and inspire people to work with you, you need to do a little weird shit to archive it. But still, Krosny or MozART group are not the top of polish comedy. They make very... hmm... special kind of comedy. MozART group has no competitor as well as Krosny. But if you find "Pan Li" drunk illusionist / magician it can make you laugh for a long time. Unfortunately I don't know if there is video with subtitles.
I think it's a waste of time. His performances don't go any further than what you've already seen
Yes Rob, that was pure rubbish, actually somehow you chose his worst performances ever, even Mozart group couldn't pull this up
@@Evelyn_8888 I see lack of culture is going around and spamming all comments xD
@@Evelyn_8888 I saw eight of them and now I see only two - I guess you either deleted them or bots marked you as a spammer that you are.
Have a nice day!
People are talking about sone differences between cultures, but I don't think that's the point. I'm polish and I don't find that performance funny either. Yes, the audience is laughing, because the whole point of this is the interaction with them. It's just not funny when you watch it instead of taking part in a performance by clapping with them.
Well, it was funny for me and I am not among the audience, nor I was then.
@@Maciej_77 Same. It's not about being there but having a different taste. I don't think that person would enjoy the Vienna concerts either.
I enjoyed the show.
But one likes it when gypsies play music for him, and another likes it when his socks stink.
It's a matter of taste, and tastes are said not to be discussed.
But as Krzysztof Zanussi said - "It doesn't mean that everyone's taste is equally good, but rather that you either have taste or you don't have it. If one has no taste, there is nothing to discuss."
Roxson im agree with you 100%❤
kiedyś w Kanadzie na jakimś festiwalu jazzowym zrobił ten numer i wszyscy się brechtali, ale jednemu angolowi się nie podoba
Limey, kindly do check out FILHAROMIA DOWCIPU, Carmina Butane (Queen), gummy bear, or whatever else. world top opera having fun, another ligue.
You are right, this was not funny.